How to Install a Minarelli Vertical Cylinder on your Motorized Bike Engine
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
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This video explains the process to install a Minarelli Vertical cylinder onto your existing motorized bike engine. It is important to note that my kits are meant for long rod cranks only! If you have a different geometry and can DIY a different spacer, then any geometry can be used.
Below are links to all the product links I mentioned in the video.
70cc Minarelli Vertical Conversion Kit: smolikperformance.com/collect...
Minarelli Spacer and Intake: smolikperformance.com/collect...
70cc Racing Minarelli Vertical Engine: smolikperformance.com/collect...
VM18 Intake Adapter: smolikperformance.com/collect...
Minarelli Exhaust Flange:smolikperformance.com/collect... 
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Looking forward to trying one of these kits in the future. Thanks for posting this video :)
I'm on ur RUclips LA that would be cool to see I talk to his dad on Facebook bike group
There fun u should
I wanna buy a complete motor
Hey bro what clutch pads have you used previously in this engine? I noticed you have made the holes for the pads larger I just wondered whats a good replace over stock, thanks 👍🏻
Quero comprar como eu faço?
Nobody has done a video series yet about the longevity of these expensive parts, normal riding, not just racing that is.
They are much more reliable than normal china cylinders
I have no experience with running a minerelli top end on an 80cc bike but I know when they are on the scooters they are designed for they are very reliable, you could easily use a cheaper kit also I think naraku has one pretty cheap
Great video! Your products are awesome! I really appreciate you taking the time to make these videos for us to better the performance of these bikes! 👍🏻
The minarelli jug at the ware house getting packed: wow I can’t wait to see what kind of sick zuma im gonna be on
Minarelli being installed: well this isn’t what I had planned
Hell yeah! Im over here working on my horizontal mina and looking at my MTB thinking if a mina vert adapter exists for a bike engine. I need one of these kits!
Nice! I'm definitely going to upgrade to one of these in the very near future.
I like my chinarelli
I got to you from reddit,nice job
Great vid
Still waiting for the engine. I want from you guys. That’s a proper definition of being a lower crank case but either way it was 6-8 months now. Kind of sucks my brother just died and I was really waiting around that thing.
Another great video u are very Knowledgeable about these little China girls keep up the great work u do I am thinking about mine upgrading to that
Great video
Cool and the gang... great vid kid
That's good looking motor
Will the carburetor that is used for this type of engine work for the zeda 66 cc high performance engine?
for which reason you dont put the base gasket under shim and cylinder ,because better seal whit grey stuff thanks
Nice!
Just subscribed to your channel.
I was just curious what type of performance (speed)she'll perform? I live in RockyMountain high Colo.
These are rated at about 10hp..lots of torque and high revving.. The cheapest cylinder is capable of 50-55mph with higher end cylinders 70+..
I’m new to the motorized bicycle world - regarding the Minarelli Vertical Cylinder kit, I have some questions:
1. What motor does the Minarelli Vertical Cylinder kit fit on?
2. How much does the Minarelli Vertical Cylinder kit cost, and do you also sell the complete motor with the Minarelli kit installed? If so, how much is it?
3. I plan on mounting the motor on my Cannondale aluminum-frame road bike, which has a down tube 51mm in diameter, and a seat tube 32mm in diameter (the two frame tubes to which the motor would mount). Would these dimensions present a motor mounting problem?
4. Dumb question of the month: my Cannondale has a 3-chainwheel front (bottom bracket) gearset, and a 7-cog rear wheel hub gearset. Has anyone successfully mounted a gasoline motor in the Vee of the tubes, and still managed to use the derailleur gears of the front (bottom bracket) gears and/or the rear wheel hub gears?
Thanks - your videos are the best on the subject on RUclips.
Bart Brown
Hacen envíos a México?? Me gustaría comprar algunas productos de tu tienda,, muchas gracias amigo
Hey would like to buy one of the engine builds that u did in this video..exact same if u have one build and ready to go..just need to know what the price is?
could i put this on a bt100?
Can I put this on a bbr stage 4 kit I Wana buy a kit for it
Do you have a link for that cyl head? I’ve seen a few people using them and they look nicer than the china cnc heads being offered
I do not. They were a limited run a year or so ago. They're no longer made from what I know
where did you get that clutch? with the bigger pads?
can you use a belly pipe exhaust meant for a mororised bike
Will this fit in a OCC Stingray?
Badass! I'ma buy a conversion from your links! Where can I get the custom clutch setup you have? I know of one website but curious about the particular one you have
The clutch setup in the video is no longer sold. We do have upgraded internal springs and pads that work better
Sends to Brazil? I work with a Phantom v3 now, and looking for an upgrade. Im almost installing a Honda 100cc there, but its 800usd here, so expensive XD
Question about clutch and the clutch pad .did you cut out the clutch your self an were do you get long clutch pads like that
The clutch is custom and the pads are cut to fit.
I could mount an 80 cylinder and piston on a 100 engine because in Romania there are no 100 cylinder and pistons, I want to point out that it fits in holes only that the 100 cylinder and piston is 50 mm and the 80 has 47mm? .
How much for the intake adapter for vm18
Where is ur link to buy stuff
thats a pretty motor u should do a giveaway or contest raffel
I have a kx85 exhaust from Steve at kaos kustom garage for the 40mm cylinders. Would it bolt to this cylinder or would I need one with a different header welded on? Would save me some money if it did. Lol thanks for the video.
The header needs to be specifically for a minarelli. It has larger bolt spacing and different angles
@@smolikperformance3867 that's what I was thinking. Thanks
I seen the 70cc and also a 90cc one. Will the 90cc,50mm bore fit on my bottom end? Anyone know please help me out .and where do I get the 10mm spacer it dont come with the kit off Ebay????
90cc kets require a stroke crank and will not fit a jormal china bottom end. The spacer can be found on my website smolikperformance.com
Recommended exhaust?
You should get the stage 6 big reed intake and a 21mm SWR PWK, I would love to see how much power it would make
I have a stage6 big reed already, will be getting more carbs as well
Can't wait to see it, I build these scooter and can see the power they make, I'd definitely recommend a pwk 21, on the pre bugs that the best carb for a 70cc set up
Also for the vertical minarelli I highly recommend the Black Trophy cylinder on scootertuning.ca
@@gsxrsht5613 thanks for then
info. I have ran the black trophy, performed well
if i were to buy this, where would i go about getting a good quality VM20 carb?
Treatland.tv
What the cc motor?? The head motor your compatible niome 100??..end me motor guizmo 80cc..clutch jamed..very very jamed what i rebuilt clutch very jamed??
This is a standard 66/80cc bottom end.
Will a zl40,rod work
I want to buy the CNC Racing 70cc Minarelli Vertical Engine for a build with the f-zero bike and i want to know if it is compatible with it
Yes it is. You will want to chose the 1.65" and 1.25" mount option
No assemble lube ?
is there any chance you will be producing anymore minarelli kits i would like to purchase one.
Yes, I'll update website this weekend.
Back again have a question about the minaralli hybrid do these engines tend to run hot mine has 130 miles on her just switched from 32:1 down to 40:1 after a 5 mile trip she's 330 degrees sound about right and she likes to 4 stroke after about 19 mph and she stops and is ready to go at around 30 mph
Because of how much power they make, if improperly tuned or cooled. They will overheat. Around 300f is the temp you're shooting for
@@smolikperformance3867 will they run hot when they are still breaking in mine has a little over a hundred miles on her she's running 330 degrees now that's just going 15 to 20 mph what I was told and 32:1 first gallon of fuel then drop down to 40:1 did the dropping down oil ratio today
What clutch is that
Have you ever tried running that motor without the read cage? And if so what kind of results did you get.
No you cannot run it without reeds. It has a rear transfer port that goes directly from case to intake. Without the reed it will all backflow through the carb
Is it compatible with just about any 40mm stroke kit or is it only compatible for the Zeda 80cc kit? Also is there any modifications that have to be made to the motor to accept the new cylinder case like porting and balancing the crank?
Any standard 66/80cc engine will work. Both 38 and 40mm stroke, we prefer long rod cranks.
No modifications are necessary, however, case porting and crank balancing is highly recommended
@@smolikperformance3867
Thank you very much!!!
hi friend where did you buy the cylinder kit from this? tell me the site please
Smolikperformance.com
Why was a squish gap not mentioned?
Great and informative video
I have just ordered an Italjet KR cylinder for the same vertical engine. Will it be able to run with the dellorto 16mm sha - is it ok to run Stock clutch just with a stronger spring
Highly recommend using a Mikuni vm20 and a stock clutch is ok with stronger spring.
What do your cylinder kids along with the adapters cost
Links are in the description
What's the price for the Set up.I have a few engine kits and looking to upgrade one and if its worth it probably end uo doing em all
The conversion kit is about $300, or a complete engine is $500-600. They can be found on smolikperformance.com
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You should make a spacer plate for 38 mm Stroke. Because that would make it more universal
Yes we have been making 38mm stroke spacers for quite a while now.
smolikperformance.com/products/minarelli-vertical-long-rod-spacer
@@smolikperformance3867 thanks man that well help me out because I have a af80 rod which is a short rod
The only thing I’m worried about is if I build a Minnrelli I might need to do it on a totally different bike. Because most of my builds are either mountain bikes or cruiser bikes. Like I might just save up and get a felt faker frame
So this swap right onto my yd100 engine? Subscribed.
Not sure about YD. I am unfamiliar with their geometry
@@matouslitera8073 Does YD100 engine kit use a 50mm piston and what size piston does this mineralli kit use?
I read the comments saying something about the 50 MMS spread and this one has a 45 millimeter spread maybe you can use a 90 CC conversion kit you'll just have to make a custom spacer there's a guy on RUclips that made one out of aluminum stock
Does kaos customs make a header for the minarelli
Yes
Will you have to port your case to match the spacer port?
While not required it is recommended
What kit?
You said in the video you sell that as a kit how much are they? And what is the availability?
All products are listed on my website Smolikperformance.com
Is it just reliability that makes it worth upgrading or is there performance gains?
Both! Lots of performance gains as well as reliability. Its a real cast iron yamaha cylinder
Where can I get one of these kits I'll put on my pk80 it already has a cnc high compression head what is a good carburetor for this build I'll put it on my zada screaming demon another question do mz65 clone expansion chamber pipe bolt on to them
Smolikperformance.com
You need to modify the headers to fit
@@smolikperformance3867 got a question I have a cnc high performance compression head with 8mm holes can I use that head if the minaralli I ordered has 6mm head bolts?
@@mikemiller3303 yes, i recommend getting some 8mm to 6mm bushings. You can find on amazon
@@smolikperformance3867 how thick they have 4mm 6mm 10mm
@@mikemiller3303 however deep your stud holes are on the head. 4mm is fine
Will this fit on a bt 100. There stroke is 40 mm
I am unsure
Can you ship it to Middle East (the spacers)
Yes I can
Hell yeah is that Kurt's motor he wrinkl painted
It is!
Lol yep..gonna be my beater engine..
How do you buy one with everything I'm looking to buy can you send me a link
Smolikperformance.com
Thanks for the help man I found it I will be ordering one
Do you have a link for a good pipe?
Used 60-80cc dirt bike pipes on ebay, ebay jog pipe, or look on maxiscoot for the best scooter pipes
Are some of the channels cut out of a stock clutch plate in order to allow a wider clutch pads?
Yes, this was an old style clutch from many years back before stronger springs existed
How to buy that kit bro
Smolikperformance.com
Where u get that spacer :0
I manufacturer them. You can buy one on Smolikperformance.com
Shouldn't u put a little oil on the rings before you put it in. I do
How fast do thay go 50cc ?? All stock just basic
With a 40t it will go about 40mph, 36t will do 50mph
@@smolikperformance3867 thanks just can't belive 4 teeth changes 10mph
Is the 70cc a lot faster
@@mozezcen-valley7555 70cc is a bit faster. 55-60mph with a 36t. Its overall power curve is much higher, especially down low.
@@smolikperformance3867 yes I'm thinking to do a 50 mile per hour bike build very soon going to try to put it on a board track replica bike I build parsley rear end is stock on a late 40s bike ,
Can you replace a one piece jug with one of these?
Not that I'm aware of. One peice have different stud spacing
@@smolikperformance3867 damn thought so sometimes I regret buying the bt80 nothing is compatible
Dónde compro un kit así ?
smolikperformance.com/products/70cc-minarelli-vertical-conversion-kit?
что за серия мотора он явно отличается от ф80?
Where i Can buy this cylinder please ?
Smolikperformance.com ill have them in stock soon
How you buy that?
Smolikperformance.com
Will a mz65 pipe work for this application
It will have to have a modified header. Even then, a better pipe is ideal
@@smolikperformance3867 what would be better than an mz65??
@@jaayse a real dirtbike pipe modified to fit
How much do you sell your kits for
Prices are listed on
Smolikperformance.com
How many hp on that set up?
The Racing Minarelli 70cc is 8-10hp
Nice video what is the name brand of that head cause I have one of them minaralli hybrid engine and I couldn't get my cdhpower cnc high performance compression head to work when tightening the head bolts down you could see a small gap or is that normal because of the small raised lip on the high compression head? Next question I was torqueing the head bolts down to 10 pounds and stripped out one of the holes in the engine block will a heli coil work to fix it?
The gap under the head is normal, there is a compression ring if you look at the bottom.
Helicoil yes. Only go hand tight
@@smolikperformance3867 I removed the head from my pk80 with G4 cylinder and it was sitting flush on there I was just curious why it was different why one had a gap and the other don't
@@mikemiller3303 just depends on the manufacturer
@@smolikperformance3867 ok I was just curious cause they're both 80cc thanks for the info
@@smolikperformance3867 one more question when I get this motor fixed and running what is a good starting point for break in oil ratio 32:1 ?
hay how much my mom just passed away covic19 aaaand i am geting foodd and stuff whith my bike i have a back up 66cc i like to mod and i dont no if u wood work out cost for the parts i wood need i can buy the head my self but the spacer i wood not be abull to make
Check out my website smolikperformance.com. everything you need is listed there
Onde consigo essa flange?
Smolikperformance.com
Quero comprar sou do Brasil
Where do you find aluminum that thick? Paypal if possible.
I cnc mill it from billet aluminum blocks. All on Smolik Performance
@@smolikperformance3867 Where do you source your stock materials?
@@jgbelmont local metal supplier
What’s the name of your website
Smolikperformance.com
Guy named Don butler charging $750 for a china doll with falcon 911 cylinder and saf clutch. These people are crazy charging that much when we can get an engine 10 times better plus cheaper from Ethan or Ryan. Best deals around compared to anyone. Especially these back yards builders on the Facebook groups. I understand trying to make money but $750 for a china doll you can build yourself for half the cost is ridiculous. Ethan will Def be the go to guy for now on for motors.
here in France we have crazy access to a lot of 70cc cylinder like polini,top perf FOR not too much money. I'm making a Minarelli build , and I have spent less than 120$ for all the things. using second hand piece like carb and admission , and with brand new cylinder
@@guslebolideur8736what type of stuff did you use to build
What other intake will adapt to this engine
At this time I only have vm20 and vm18 adapters. That is all I would recommend.
@@smolikperformance3867 I was asking if i could use a different intake besides the one you offer and if so what kind?
@@dragosmith9522 there are many intakes that will work, however I will not recommend them.
I'll just order one of yours and a reed peddle
I got to say I was skeptical on these builds. First one ever saw close up I now find out is just poorly matched parts to the build. Lot a lot money for a bad setup. I got to see one of these guys kits run with matched pipe and carb and such a month ago in NC the thing was a complete monster lol! Thing was very impressive.
Would this work with a MZ65 pipe?
Not without welding the header to fit. And even then there are better options. A real 65cc to 80cc mx pipe
@@smolikperformance3867 I’m not worried about welding. If you can check out my latest video (3 mins) can you tell me if it would work? I’m worried about the frame working.
@@smolikperformance3867 I’m on the fence about buying it and it sounds good and it has a decent price. If you could tell me if it would work with my current setup I could really look into buying it.
@@backyardrestorations itll work but do not recommend. The mz65 is a low level pipe
@@smolikperformance3867 yeah I figured. The carb will work ok right? 21mm PWK?
How does the 70cc your building compare to a gt90 case induction 50mm sleeve cylinder?
Not even a comparison. Minarelli has superior ports and quality to any china doll cylinder.
I do like your setup. Has it been tested on a dyno? I am curious about it's performance...mainly its top speed? ( I know top speed isn't everything )
I am interested in it's performance, I would Not want to buy a beautifully designed , Non China-doll, that does not outperform anything China has to offer, as far as top ends on 66-69.4cc motors. Tell me... what makes your motor setup better? Aside from its obvious better looks.
I personally dont like china dolls. I just wanna know I'm getting the performance and quality that does not compare to a China doll. To see if it's worth the investment.
@@jonfuller5764 yes it has been tested on the dyno once. Even with a poor tune it made 8 hp and 6 ftlbs. It is definitely better performing and will outlast anything china 100×. The cylinder itself is a real yamaha performance scooter cylinder. Its cast iron so it lasts for 10s of thousands of miles, and is designed to withstand 11k rpms constantly.
Will a Jake's head have a good "squish "
Yes decent. You will still have to make sure the squish clearance is set properly
What do you mean by the swish clearance?
@@michaelmarcketti3102 minimum distance from piston to head at compressed tdc
Spacer how milimeter?
47mm bore
I mean, how many millimeters of thickness aluminum spacer for a 70cc Minarelli cylinder
@@cipunx13-gasbike long rod 40mm stroke uses 10mm spacer
Oh ok..friend thank you 👍😁
You still selling drill press tops?
Drill press tops? Sorry I dont know what you mean?
@@smolikperformance3867 I thought you said you was selling them for minarelli
@@jray4957 do you mean drilled cylinders for 8mm threads? If so then yes I do
@@smolikperformance3867 👍🏾 yes ? You think it’s better than the phantom? I just got..I want to do 50+ or close like 42/43 mph now
@@jray4957 100% better than the phantom. Phantom is about 3hp, minarelli is 6-7hp out of the box, 8-9hp with some porting
Everybody oil your wrist pin, and piston bore, wipe off oil on mating surface, add your ultra Gray,
Hi, What cylinder do you use??
Um,... is a piston supposed to be so tight that you have to force it in?
When you have to compress the rings that are dry and not broken in yes its a little stiff to get the piston in..
Would you sell a complete engine...???? Carb ,exhaust basically everything needed to install and ride....
And if so what price range would a complete engine cost...???
I would rather buy everything from 1 vendor/ builder rather then multiple vendors....that way I know that everything would match and is not a hit or miss...
Engine and carb yes, exhaust no. Exhaust will need to modified to fit your frame
I have been building 2 stroke scoot motors for years .. never seen one built without any form of lube .. first run it will be dry and score the crap out of the barrel .. maybe just an oversight but not good in a tutorial which others will copy ...
Fair. All cylinders come prelubed.
@@smolikperformance3867 thats good but still no lube on little end bearing or wrist pin .. also maybe wise using a torque wrench on head bolts to ensure even pressure on all studs..
@@Bigade51 yes, bearings and wristpins come prelubed as well. Torquring is something I do take for granted as I go by "hand tight". Never used a torque wrench for these engines
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Kinda like putting jewelry on a pig don't you think? I've spun 6 cranks with my custom made 55mm bore kit on those cheap Chinese lower ends before I scrapped the whole thing and went with a Kawasaki KX 80, twice the hp and a real transmission
Sucks for you.
You didn't install the engine