Nintendo GameCube Repair - Part 2
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A follow up video to the last part where I struggled to work out the cause of a "no video" fault on a Nintendo GameCube. I also look at another one here at the same time.
#nintendo #gamecube #repair
Note: I forgot to show the resistor I fitted in place of the one that came off when cleaning. If you look closely you can see I fitted a brand new 0805 one later as the old one broke in two due to the corrosion. I've ordered some universal stencils, and I have already removed the CPU - confirmed bad solder point and a damaged via under the CPU. In the next part I will have a go at refitting the CPU.
It's almost impossible to solder from the side there - clearance is like 0.5mm. If I had a super fine tip I might be able to I guess.
Don't know if these will be the correct ones but if you type in ebay universal bga stencils item number:123506449988. You get 27 stencils for £4.33.
I hope you can re-do the CPU - look forward to seeing that!
Thanks! Yes, I've ordered one of those!
@@Chriva Nice tip!
but i wonder if there are more balls that have issues and not just the one we can see.
This has been very entertaining to watch Chris. The super tiny resistor...well caught. The ball repair idea...very clever.
I used your videos here as a reference when I was fixing my girlfriend's GameCube. It had a similar issue where the IPL couldn't start, resulting in a blackscreen on boot, though this one wouldn't even produce video. It was otherwise completely spotless. No corrosion on any part of the unit's shielding plates, and spotless connectors that all were verified working in another console. I found one completely random VIA that was fully corroded through with a blue residue near the system RAM. I cleaned it up and traced the link, rejoining it on the back side of the mainboard. It booted up without issue after that. I went a step further and got XenoAT328 compiled and flashed to an Arduino Pro Mini to act as a mod chip. It's all working great now. It was a silver DOL-101 for reference, so it wasn't fixed with any intention of profits, but it's nice to know that it can be fixed.
I wish you the best of luck on your reball attempts, and thanks again for the starting point and hints on the possible problem. I couldn't even find any references online other than your video on what to look for in regards to issues after all. I can only hope yours can be saved as well. All GameCubes deserve a second life!
Love that the ATI Chip is named flipper, considering that Dolphin was the code-name for the GC. Looks like the days of needing bench Microscopes, more rework tools & test equipment are getting closer and closer. I wouldn't mind one now. My back was in bits after leaning into those Socket 7 motherboard repairs.
BGA is the worst. Looking forward to reballing video.
This looks like a victim of a carboot sale that suddenly started raining. Excellent vid as always Gadge. Hope you are picking up a bit mate.
Thanks! Still not improved much =/
@@GadgetUK164 I really do hope things improve Chris. Really appreciate you still knocking the vids out and replying to mine and other peeps comments. Respect, Jon.
Love these type of videos as always
I got a Gamecube that was as rusty as that really bad one. I looked like it sat outside for a couple of years! Amazingly, even though it was sold as "junk/parts", it booted right up and had no problem reading discs (I had cleaned the lens with IPA first thing though),
Scrubbing the rusty ground plane around the edge of the board with IPA didn't do very much, but scrubbing it with a Q-tip soaked in Deoxit cleaned it right up!
Yes, I do use deoxit for some things, but I tend to keep it for other things as its so darn expensive in the UK =/
Great video. I still have my gamecube in good condition. I have a spare Japanese saturn with corrosion that i have not tested.
Wow, that is a lot of rust! Amazing it still boots at all. I think you must be right about it being found in a skip or something. Glad to see one of them looking like new. Great video as always.
I’ve never tried reballing, so looking forward to part three!
I'd love to restore a Gamecube. It's the first generation when 3D games started looking good and has some great titles. I'll keep my eye out for junk ones on Ebay.
Grumpy Modeler Theres a couple up on eBay right now for $1.99 USD +$20.00 USD Shipping from Japan. I think they’re functional but they’re messed up visually. You could also install a region switch mod!
@@raddzadd Thanks. I already had one on the way and have region and Pluto HDMI mod planned. :)
Another quality video Chris keep up the awesome content you give us 👍
Great that you managed to get one working unit. And some useful spares.
I think I can get the one with the bad solder point working yet! The only thing standing in my way really is the right size stencil.
Top video Chris, the GameCube is a very underappreciated system if you asked me. Bummer you couldn't get both of the systems working but at least you made one good working system out of the two. As for re-balling the chip I'd wouldn't bother it's too much hassle. I'd just use the board for spares and try and fix the faulty laser to keep for a backup.
Thanks =D Nah, it's not too much hastle! =D It will take 5 or 10 mins to remove, then use a stencil with solder paste (I just need to find the correct stencil), and then just refit the chip. It's worth it for the experience alone!
10:23 Let the GadgetUK ASMR begin!
*puts headphones on*
Very nice, I am always excited to see a new video from you, I haven't watched the whole video yet but a technique I always wanted to try but never got around to on the metal parts is submerging it in rust remover (you can get it in the auto parts store) it's a yellow liquid and removes rust slowly , once it's removed you can spray paint the metal and it should permanently fix it, you can even reuse the liquid
Ofcourse PCBs are way more difficult but after watching way too much Lois Rossman videos for my own good it looks like a very good ultrasonic cleaner can clean it , but wow are those things expensive!
Thanks =D I have an electrolysis video coming up!
The first thing I do with any EBAY retro console I buy is open it up and check for corrosion, I got caught out once with a rusty Master System.
Well you did not give up and it now works. Shamwe the other board is only fit for parts now. Interesting video as always
I've not given up yet! I have ordered a universal stencil set - to reball the old CPU. I will have a go at removing the CPU soon...
Very cool, the Gamecube is a great system. True about the Wii abuse, makes you wonder what they'll be worth down the road :-)
OMFG thank you! my gamecube was doing that error has occurred thing with a drive actually in it but the drive wasn't doing anything, I take a look inside and it's also corroded as hell lmao.
@17:18 the chip used for the RTC, one of the pins came off during a console mod attempt (faulty soldering iron) is there a way to replace this?
Carefully dremel into the edge of the IC to expose the pin!
Nice Vlog Chris and thank you for your amazing content as always looking forward to the next installment 😁😁😁 Kim 😁😁😁
Excellent!
i was waiting for this one, glad you found the fault on the board, at least in the end you managed to make one out of two.
lt will be interesting to see if you'll ever come around to reballing the cpu, chances are, with a via that bad, it's gonna have a missing pad too..
I haven't given up yet! I will try and find the correct stencil and remove the chip. Nothing to lose!
I have 3 GCs, they seem to be pretty tough and reliable. I must check the clock batteries for leakage though.
hello The resistor responsible for the clock in the R16 part of my GameCube is broken. What kind of resistor capacity should I use?😢
You would need to find schematics for the Gamecube, or measure resistance of that resistor on a working board.
I bought a console with the same problem. It doesnt have any corrosion, however. I figure I would do what you did. How did you go about reballing the CPU, what do the stencils that you have mentioned in other comments do? I tried to find a part 3 with no luck. I have never dealt with removing a CPU Chip before, so unfortunately don't know how to start. Thanks in advance!
I have tried swapping the laser and door switch with no success
When I use 99.7% IPA on a circuit board with a tooth brush it leaves a sticky residue that I then use water to remove. I am confused why it leaves the stickyness. I got the bottle of IPA from RS Components.
Ok I will try that next time.
Could you drill a tiny hole to reach the disintegrated ball and solder something conductive to it?
The problem is that because its a multi layer board there are traces in the middle inbetween the top and bottom traces. Plus the traces on the top side would be in the way of any hole you might want to drill in that area =/
Hello, I am new following your videos, they are awesome. May I know what is the "pen or eraser" you use to clean the corrosion? Thanks
Thanks! I use a fibre glass pen / pencil, and a wire brush pen / pencil. The wire brush one only use on shielding etc. The fibreglass pencil can be used on PCBs. eg. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Pc-MINI-WIRE-BRUSHES-Pen-Precise-Bristle-Remove-Rust-Dirt-Precision-Pencil-DIY/202254739729?epid=21016300142&hash=item2f17526911:g:iHQAAOSw6H5alSSd
New to your channel man. I am having an issue with gamecube not reading discs. I tweaked the POT, but no luck. Replaced the laser, and still no luck. Any advice?
It could be a number of things - firstly, it could be the replacement laser does not work properly (often these cheap ones can be hit and miss as to whether they work or not - I usually buy 3 or 4 if they are so cheap, and often will find 50% work, 50% do not). You really need to scope the RF signal and adjust the pot based on that signal to be 100% sure if the laser works or not. If it still does not work with a 100% known good working laser, you might have a fault somewhere else on the drive. It's worth testing the motors, ensure the track zero switch works OK, lubricate the rails with some lithium grease or molykote, check that the gears are OK (free to move with no broken teeth). Finally it could be the SMD caps on the drive PCB, a faulty IC or component on there, or bad connection between the drive PCB and the motherboard. Also check the motherboard looks OK, and that the regulator PCB is outputting the correct voltages (covered in part 1 of the recent series I just did on the GameCube).
@@GadgetUK164 thank you. I will definitely give those things a try. Have a good day.
Well everything except for the o-scope. I dont have one of those
my gamecube been freezing randomly or artifacting every time i play super monkey ball 2 bowling. Fine on everything else mostly. It happens after a bit. I think caused due to heat. SNy idea what to do to fix it? (could it be the fan?)
Probably not the fan, it could be something overheating - maybe re-seat the heat sink and add some good thermal paste and re-test it. It could also be a power problem, or bad capacitors (least likely on these). Finally it could be a bad BGA connection, or a failing IC - RAM?!?
@@GadgetUK164 ya i had this problem since i had the console in 2002 lol. But managed to fix it. I did get a new board well pre owned but was fully working. I used 2.0mm pads on ram, cpu and gpu and screwed down heatsink lightly till screw stopped turning. Seemed to have stopped freezing mostly. I think it overheating due to fan not performing like it should. I can play awhile but then it either reboots on me now or freezes.
I am waiting for new fan mount and side fan to arrive to test cooling. (fan it got clean but i feel hot air coming out but barely feel air.) Also fan really loud.
Nice video m8 👍👍👍👍🙂
Interesting problem ! What you may require is a stencil of 27x27 and 256 contacts for the Power 3 chip also known as the IBM 9314pq chip. I have had a quick look around and there are many out there this one looked a bit different to your usual metal stencil as its a sticker here is the link www.intertronics.co.uk/product/flextac-bga-rework-stencils/
Hope this helps, if anything the dead board is a great way to learn new techniques, as long as you don't stay down that rabbit hole for too long :)
Thanks! I've ordered a universal stencil set!
этот мелкий резистор r16 отвечает за время. я когда gc покупал у меня его вообще не было. может прежний владелец разбирал и сорвал его. долго пытался узнать номинал пока один парень не подсказал. 121 Ом в этом малыше должно быть. я вроде нашёл у китайцев такой ,но мой прибор показал 120 Ом и время немного неточно,но не смертельно
Hi.. Awesome video..My Nintendo is also having the same problem..Is it possible for you to help me out??
In my case the problem was corrosion under the CPU - one solder point had disconnected. The difficulty is reballing the CPU and re-installing it.
Can't find part 1... 😕 Can anyone direct me to it? Thx!
You can search the videos on someones channel by visiting their channel and clicking on the magnifying glass. The link is:- ruclips.net/video/VC8-LbIy440/видео.html
I need help! My gamecube is stuck and freezes on loadingnscreen.. dont know what to do..
It might be worth swapping the drive unit out from another GameCube to determine is it the drive or the main board. The freeze could be caused by a fault on the main board, the power regulation board underneath, or a bad PSU too.
@@GadgetUK164 thankyou ill try it out, ill text you if it worked
Intreasting at least you got 1 GC working
I've got a GameCube, never really used it, cos it stinks of ciggys, I stopped smoking years ago, and that thing makes me want a ciggy real bad...
good day!I am the owner of gamecube with such a small problem - the former owner of the console almost killed her for a long time to restore and there was only a problem with the calendar.on the motherboard was torn off the resistor responsible for lowering the voltage from the battery (it seems R16 if I'm not mistaken)a big request if there are people who have an open console or motherboard ,please tell me the nominal value of the resistor,that is, ring the tester it!please))
Hey my gamecube light will come on for like 2 seconds but then go off and the fan will come on and stay on. What do you think could be wrong? Thank you!
friend do you know which crystal oscillator the game cube uses?
here mark 13CKSS4MT
Sorry, off the top of my head I have no idea =/ Best to just strip down another unit and compare / examine.
@@GadgetUK164 my friend, you are the only person who can help me, thanks for the answer, i'll see what i can do
I really like your videos, I have several sega Saturn without image, one day I will try to do maintenance on them, what defects can this occur?