Never Buy a Toyota with This Engine

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  • Опубликовано: 25 апр 2020
  • Toyota engine problems. Never Buy a Toyota with This Engine, DIY and car repair with auto mechanic Scotty Kilmer. Toyota engine problems in their cars and trucks. Should I buy a Toyota? Are Toyotas still reliable? Toyota reliability issues explained. Buying a used Toyota with engine problems. Why not to buy a Toyota with this engine. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 52 years.
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  • @scottykilmer
    @scottykilmer  4 года назад +46

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    • @glennso47
      @glennso47 4 года назад +3

      Imagine Scotty not recommending a Toyota! Is the world gonna end soon?

    • @imranjalalkhan9024
      @imranjalalkhan9024 4 года назад +2

      what about the 2az-fe from Japan? does it have the same design flaw?

    • @ryanstokes1793
      @ryanstokes1793 4 года назад +1

      I have a question scotty. I have a 2004 altezza here in japan. I changed the oil pressure sensor since it was inop and the oil along with the filter since it was about due. I put in 10W30 because i listened to a "mechanic". Now the oil pressure sits low after car warms up but when i get up to a little over 2000rpms it shoots up to almost max. I believe i have to use 5W20 or 5W30. What do i do since i already have 10W30 in it? Do i have to do kind of flush?

    • @dnl4295
      @dnl4295 4 года назад +1

      Guessing those are the same piston and rings that Chevy decided to use later on their 2010-2013 SUV engines that had oil consumption problems. They must had gotten them for cheap and built the engines around them.
      To the 2012 Chevy Equinox owner. Check your intake solenoids (if same engine, it is about $50 each and you need 2 of them, easy job - left side of engine, near injectors). Had the same issue with my 2011 equinox a few years ago. In my case it gave me code for throttle body, so had to dig around forums for solutions and found intake solenoids do that as well.

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад

      Can you just run for US president already?

  • @FlexSZN23
    @FlexSZN23 4 года назад +345

    Negative Oil prices + Oil Consuming engine
    =
    *STONKS*

  • @ultimatem89
    @ultimatem89 4 года назад +194

    Scotty's hands be like ⬅️➡️↗️↘️⬅️⬆️↖️↙️⬇️↘️⬅️⬆️⬅️⬅️➡️↘️↖️↖️↘️↗️⬆️⬆️

    • @kingdomman5873
      @kingdomman5873 4 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MemeBiologist
      @MemeBiologist 4 года назад +4

      he's secretly telling us a message

    • @bbhoustontx
      @bbhoustontx 4 года назад

      so what I love me some Scotty!

    • @donadams5503
      @donadams5503 4 года назад +1

      I watch all his videos.... I'm waitfor him to take off and leave the ground

    • @gilcoles7087
      @gilcoles7087 Год назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @phillipbonner5215
    @phillipbonner5215 4 года назад +376

    No lockdown for Scotty
    He is still fixing cars

    • @scottykilmer
      @scottykilmer  4 года назад +186

      someone has to

    • @njsongwriter
      @njsongwriter 4 года назад +29

      Why not? Transportation is essential, that makes auto repair essential.

    • @NesconProductions
      @NesconProductions 4 года назад +6

      @1pilot2000 Been considering driving several hours (& couple of hundred miles) so Scotty could work on my car. Since I've moved a few years ago have had three bad experiences with local mechanics so echo the sentiment.

    • @mustaphan9121
      @mustaphan9121 4 года назад +1

      I like close to Houston. Where is he exactly ? so i take my car to fix it

    • @mustaphan9121
      @mustaphan9121 4 года назад +1

      I live*

  • @chuckd.7048
    @chuckd.7048 4 года назад +334

    I don't think Scotty's a mechanic, here's why;
    1. He's honest
    2. I've never heard him cuss.
    3. There's no beer in the vids.
    Just saying, 😆 🐴

    • @njsongwriter
      @njsongwriter 4 года назад +9

      He meets most of the requirements to work on my car but not all.

    • @myMotoring
      @myMotoring 4 года назад +10

      He cursed in the offline mode

    • @Captain_Jack514
      @Captain_Jack514 4 года назад +15

      He said in one of his earlier videos that he does curse a lot when working on cars and not on camera.

    • @shadthompson3828
      @shadthompson3828 4 года назад +1

      Classic

    • @gsilva220
      @gsilva220 4 года назад +17

      Maybe he is the supreme automotive DIYer:
      1. Doesn't have a shop in the true sense of the word;
      2. Has his garage so full of tools he can't park inside anymore;
      3. Has a lot of sets of 2 identical tools, of which one was lost in the mess, and the other one was bought because he couldn't find the first one;
      4. Has expensive diagnostic tools but we've never seen him working on a lathe (because having a lathe turns you into a mechanic).

  • @tedunguent156
    @tedunguent156 4 года назад +36

    A couple of years ago a friend of mine got an estimate for about $3000 to fix this problem at the local Toyota dealer. I told him about the recall, or TSB, on this problem and he got the dealer to do it for about $600. Great video, Scotty. It's going to help a lot of people.

    • @njsongwriter
      @njsongwriter 4 года назад +1

      Did they fix the head bolt problem too?

    • @ositoelosito3424
      @ositoelosito3424 9 месяцев назад

      I own a 2009 Camry with that problem....u think I can take it to dealer to fix for cheap?

    • @tedunguent156
      @tedunguent156 9 месяцев назад

      @@ositoelosito3424 Call the dealer and tell them that you know there was a recall.

  • @ferndog1461
    @ferndog1461 4 года назад +48

    There was a " warranty extension " on the 2AZ-FE engines. My 2003 Camry, 2.4 L, 2AZ-FE, got new piston rings rebuilt in 2009. My Uncle & Aunt went to multiple dealerships before he found a dealership that would do the rebuild. You gotta research the web for the right words to tell the dealership service advisor. Peace! Thank you to the community for giving me the heads up on correct wording. Love this community 💖.

    • @RealDarkFilm
      @RealDarkFilm 4 года назад +3

      what would I search on the web

    • @trebor1973j
      @trebor1973j 4 года назад +3

      2003 engine hadn't got that problem

    • @andybub45
      @andybub45 4 года назад

      Not a "quiet recall". It was a warranty extension that ended yeats ago.

    • @ferndog1461
      @ferndog1461 4 года назад +4

      @@trebor1973j You are early on your 2AZ-FE's maintenance. Or your 2AZ-FE was assembled in Japan. 90's Camry's were swiss watches when it came to dependability.

    • @ferndog1461
      @ferndog1461 4 года назад +1

      @@RealDarkFilm search per your engine and year of manufacture. Look at the forums, i.e., ToyotaNation or CamryOwners.

  • @iceholerealms
    @iceholerealms 4 года назад +39

    This video shows Scotty's honesty. Makes video on new channel praising toyota and in this video points out toyotas major engine problem and how to fix. Keep up the great work.

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад +6

      Scotty Kilmer FOR PREISDENT 2020! He should run as an Independent lol.

  • @swag8081
    @swag8081 4 года назад +25

    Scotty is the reason why I keep fixing my own cars he has helped me with a lot keep going Scotty you are a real mechanic with real and honest skills thank you Scotty

  • @64jazdude
    @64jazdude 4 года назад +29

    Toyota rebuilt the top end on my 07 Rav4 free of charge & supplied me with a hand control equipped rental for nothing! That was 50k miles ago. Still towing & going!

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад +2

      Good to hear! Glad it's still running like Stonewall Jackson!

    • @MrNumberjuan1
      @MrNumberjuan1 4 года назад +1

      64jazdude with how many miles did they fixed it though?

    • @eranomanahan9118
      @eranomanahan9118 3 года назад

      Good. Maybe, the mechanic there did the required repair. My 07Rav4 was treated the same but only run better for 6 months. It came back to that worst consumption of oil. I assumed that they did not
      repair my RAV4 completely.

  • @fockewulf656
    @fockewulf656 Год назад +2

    Owner of a 1NR-FE 1.33 lt engine Toyota Yaris here, same issues. Last week it got to a point where one cylinder is gone most of the time, while burning a quart of oil every 700 miles or so.
    I was lucky to find a spare engine with half my mileage and avoid totalling the car, for half the price of the rebuild.

  • @briandeline5065
    @briandeline5065 4 года назад +20

    Scotty, the mileage limit is 150,000. I have a 2010 Scion xB with that engine and it started burning oil at about 135,000. I didn't know about the problem but learned about it by doing a little online research. I brought it to a Toyota dealer when it had 145,000, they did the test and it burnt over a quart of oil in a 1000 miles. So, they did the right thing and rebuilt the engine. I told a neighbor about it who had the same problem, he brought his in and they said "sorry." He had 160,000 miles and they wouldn't fix it. Like you said, that's not right.

    • @singlefather01
      @singlefather01 7 месяцев назад

      dude, you drove it for over 150K miles and still complaining? Oh boy.

  • @brianonabike4130
    @brianonabike4130 4 года назад +12

    My ‘09 matrix had the “oil consumption test” completed at 120,000 miles. I was putting 4 qts of oil in the car every 2k miles or so. When the dealer ran the test, after 2k miles, the car magically didn’t consume oil through that period. After they declared it not an issue though, the engine went back to consuming oil and I ultimately had to sell the car before I really wanted to.

  • @Red5oh
    @Red5oh 4 года назад +65

    Even with design flaw. Toyota be like 300k here I come!

    • @JayElement13
      @JayElement13 2 года назад

      After spending over 3000 in repairs lol

    • @wizkhalifa1268
      @wizkhalifa1268 2 года назад +3

      @@JayElement13 and $30,000 in oil over 25 year period.

    • @christianmbabazi9722
      @christianmbabazi9722 9 месяцев назад

      Without the car market is right now finding a Toyota with a decent good engine especially if they don't mark the price up and it doesn't have that much high mileage on it

  • @tke2414
    @tke2414 3 года назад +5

    I have that engine in my 09 Camry. It's got 221k and burns less than a quart every 3k miles. Thank you Lord!!!!

  • @jonathangomez8269
    @jonathangomez8269 4 года назад +149

    Scotty “when I was a young mechanic” Kilmer

    • @tomnekuda3818
      @tomnekuda3818 4 года назад +4

      Was Scotty ever young?

    • @jasonpovey
      @jasonpovey 4 года назад +3

      It’s only a matter of time until DMT pops up in every vid

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад +3

      @@tomnekuda3818 No, Scotty can still pass for a 30-something year old! Especially with his sunglasses!

    • @sorcererharmon1322
      @sorcererharmon1322 4 года назад

      Toyota is a great car, but have you ever tried DMT?

    • @davidcorbin9456
      @davidcorbin9456 4 года назад +1

      When dinosaurs roamed the earth.

  • @brandonbarnes5968
    @brandonbarnes5968 4 года назад +6

    I mean I have a 2003 Toyota Camry with that same engine. She has 182k on the clock and only burns 1/2 quart every 5k. Seems solid to me....

  • @ecschindelbeck
    @ecschindelbeck 4 года назад +32

    “A computer that’s gone bad doesn’t tell you it’s gone bad, because...it’s gone bad.” 🤣

  • @rogerbamatutz1927
    @rogerbamatutz1927 4 года назад +2

    I hope your video's like this one will help some people out there. It's really difficult these days to find someone that looks out for the customer.

  • @albinfiskare
    @albinfiskare 4 года назад +2

    1zz-fe have this too. Changed pistonrings and alot of other stuff while having my engine apart in early 2019 while being between jobs. Learned alot in the process :) It still runs 15000 km later with no oil burning. 2001 Avensis (euro model)

  • @seancurtin5131
    @seancurtin5131 4 года назад +13

    Thanks for letting me know about 2AFZ engine. I love Toyota's but I was not aware of this serious oops.

  • @Infinitebreak97
    @Infinitebreak97 4 года назад +62

    Got a 2008 Toyota Rav4 with this 2AZ-FE engine, they changed the Piston and the Rings completly free with the remanufactured parts in 2016 for free! Perfect vehicle now!

    • @tjjavier
      @tjjavier 4 года назад

      Is that in the US? I wonder if they'd do that here in the Philippines. Got a 2008 Camry with the exact same engine.

    • @seankitetu370
      @seankitetu370 4 года назад

      Well i hve a 2009 toyota harrier with the same engine

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад

      Glad to hear that! Ugh, I wish Toyota just did it for free for everyone. I hope those Toyotas weren't junked just because of the engine.

    • @richardhornor1689
      @richardhornor1689 4 года назад

      Did Toyota repair this recently? How long ago did they do this for you?

    • @jeffreymak77
      @jeffreymak77 4 года назад +1

      @@tjjavier Asia made 2AZ-FE doesn't have oil burning issue. Rest assure.

  • @Game-station498
    @Game-station498 4 года назад +1

    Thx for all your advice Scotty just yesterday I walked away From a 07 Rav 4. I remembered you talking about those type of engines burning oil. Am glad what I know know

  • @tempturerush1987
    @tempturerush1987 4 года назад +8

    I love how Scotty explains car talk the best in the industry

  • @Kundendieb
    @Kundendieb 4 года назад +15

    Min 2:50 Scotty, I Love how you hold them accountable for inconstant and poor service processes. You really have power and can support the little consumers. God bless you

  • @StevenBradley-sq6kg
    @StevenBradley-sq6kg 4 года назад +7

    My father purchased a 1970 Vega station wagon, it didn't even take that long for the pistons and rings to wear out the aluminum cylinders, the mechanic pulled the cyl. head and could rock the pistons back and forth with his fingers, and of course the dealer did nothing.

    • @robertstoneking7916
      @robertstoneking7916 4 года назад +2

      The best repair for that was to change out the front springs and install a cast iron V8.

  • @BoxofRain-ff4td
    @BoxofRain-ff4td 4 года назад

    Your Chevy Vega remarks spot on! In addition, the cam journals in the head were one piece so to remove cam from head required a crazy expensive service tool.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 4 года назад +55

    burning oil in engines, isn't that free now

    • @toyotabrony
      @toyotabrony 4 года назад

      leokimvideo u be lucky if they still fix for u for free

  • @fredg.8076
    @fredg.8076 4 года назад +197

    With all this Covid-19, his Toyota check got lost in the Mail. He's PISSED

    • @00Abrams00
      @00Abrams00 4 года назад +4

      LOOOL

    • @thehen101
      @thehen101 4 года назад +8

      cheque

    • @Gordon76100
      @Gordon76100 4 года назад +2

      😆

    • @kaiserpuppydog7174
      @kaiserpuppydog7174 4 года назад +6

      A cash drop will need to be made in the Celica's trunk or they should expect more of this.

    • @gregpavitt309
      @gregpavitt309 4 года назад +9

      Nick G... Maybe it's showing you that Scotty's and honest guy and that Toyota has problems as well as any other make and he's not bias like all you idiots out here think he is!!!

  • @warpshield
    @warpshield 4 года назад +10

    Here's the deal. My old 2010 Scion xB had the same engine. They extended the warranty to 10 yr 150k miles. Mine started burning oil about a quart every 1k miles when I got to around 130k miles. I tried to get them to rebuild twice, but they said it has to be burning 2 quarts every 1k miles before they would do anything under warranty. I eventually sold it.

    • @Travis_Hewitt
      @Travis_Hewitt 3 года назад

      Same crap they told me about my 2011.

  • @merlingeikie
    @merlingeikie 4 года назад

    Good to see that you've got your gutsy intro back, the fireworks one was a fizzer imo. Keep going Scotty power.

  • @95Eg6SoCal
    @95Eg6SoCal 4 года назад +4

    I sold my uncle a 2001 regular cab tacoma 4 cyl, it is now at 530,000 miles and still running.

  • @edwardleroy7648
    @edwardleroy7648 4 года назад +6

    My 2007 Camry had those pistons/rings. At 172,000 miles the car failed the oil use test. Toyota replaced piston/rings. (Was not advised to replace rear main seal - blew at 900+ miles post piston/ring r&r.) The car now has 298,000+ miles and still operating good.
    I ride with a tight rear seal most of the time though.

    • @juansegura6356
      @juansegura6356 5 месяцев назад

      Interesting 🤔, I have a 2012 Toyota Venza 4cylinder with 115k miles and it's burning 🔥 oil 🛢. 1 qaurt below 500 miles. My question is what's the Longevity and reliability with it burning oil ??? Other than burning 🔥 oil 🛢 it's great 👍

  • @RSx94
    @RSx94 4 года назад +64

    3:57 Scotty, some squirrel is throwing nuts at your Celica!!

    • @jgreen8339
      @jgreen8339 4 года назад +2

      This comment is underrated ^^

    • @enricod2061
      @enricod2061 4 года назад

      Reaper hahahah

    • @johnbraucher1499
      @johnbraucher1499 4 года назад +3

      It would be funny if he kept talking without missing a beat and shoots a blow dart or something at it. Then keeps talking. Lol

    • @jgreen8339
      @jgreen8339 4 года назад +3

      @@johnbraucher1499 next video: here's why squirrels are stupid. Or here's why squirrels have good car taste

    • @ammaarzeebkhan7675
      @ammaarzeebkhan7675 4 года назад

      Reaper he wants the nuts to be holy

  • @deb3834
    @deb3834 4 года назад +30

    I remember hanging with my guys 1970's they put sleeves in the vega. A bunch of motor head sailors, loved them all.

    • @cyansloth1763
      @cyansloth1763 4 года назад

      Vehicles deserved it- gorgeous things

    • @discerningmind
      @discerningmind 4 года назад +1

      Back in the days you're referring to I had a friend with a Vega and it had the Vega "problem". Driving home from work one afternoon he heard on the radio that Chevrolet would fix any Vega so long as the mileage wasn't over 50,000. Excited he called the local Chevrolet dealership and sure enough they told him it was true. He then explained that the mileage right now in his driveway was 49999.7 and that their dealership was about a half mile away which would put the mileage about 2/10 over 50K. They insisted that the mileage be no higher than 50K to get the repair. When he weighed the cost of a flatbed haul to the dealership he decided since the car was falling apart and it had rot too that it wasn't worth it. I always thought that was kind of sad.

    • @sansfreedom1629
      @sansfreedom1629 4 года назад +5

      @@discerningmind Should've driven all the way there in reverse!

    • @anonymike8280
      @anonymike8280 3 года назад

      @@sansfreedom1629 I think it's a yarn. A half-mile tow doesn't cost that much. I had a Vega once. They were bad, but they wouldn't have "rot" (whatever that is) at 50,000 miles. A lot of guy customized them, just like people later did the with Chevy Cav. It's called eternal recurrence.

  • @mdd47
    @mdd47 4 года назад +34

    They definitely learned their lesson on this one. The redesigned 2.5 liter 4 banger that replaced this one is friggin indestructible and incredibly smooth running.

    • @truthbetold8610
      @truthbetold8610 4 года назад +5

      I bought a 2011 RAV4 with the 2.5 L in excellent condition last year with only 71,000 miles and I love it!

    • @fastfeets2695
      @fastfeets2695 4 года назад

      truth be told
      How much you paid for it?

    • @rickyhoffman9002
      @rickyhoffman9002 4 года назад +1

      It's a gm engine. It's actually a Pontiac vibe rebadged.

    • @mdd47
      @mdd47 4 года назад +1

      @@truthbetold8610 My wife's went 10 years and 180K miles without any engine problems. Had the alternator rebuilt at 120K I think and that was the only repair its ever had. Got totaled when somebody t-boned her, there was too much structural damage to repair but the engine was still running perfectly. You'd never guess it was a 4-cylinder, it runs smooth as a V6.

    • @toyotabrony
      @toyotabrony 4 года назад +7

      Ricky Hoffman it’s not a GM engine dude. It’s a 2.5L 2AR-FE made from Toyota. GM can’t make good four bangers

  • @sunbeam8866
    @sunbeam8866 4 года назад +3

    I thought, someday I might replace my '96 Camry LE with an early 2000's version. But I'm hearing the 2002-2006 aluminum Camry fours are stripping head-bolt threads. I guess I'll be keeping the '96 forever!

  • @gravelyman
    @gravelyman 4 года назад +21

    I remember the vegas fill it with oil and check the gas

  • @jeffreymak77
    @jeffreymak77 4 года назад +2

    Only the 2AZ-FE engine made in USA has oil burning issue. The engine made in Thailand has no issue of oil burning issue even though it has clocked more than 300,000 km.

  • @SwingArmCity
    @SwingArmCity Год назад +2

    My 2002 2az-fe 4 cyl camry used about 1/4 of a quart every 5000 miles. It has 240000 miles when I sold it. Ran awesome! I did take care of it though

  • @sachemrock
    @sachemrock 4 года назад +18

    This man is reputable and honest to a fault. Scotty, thank you for your support of consumers in general and your customers and subscribers to your channel. I wish you were my mechanic, I would be a customer for life. ❤️

  • @mikeszabo7775
    @mikeszabo7775 3 года назад +3

    i own a 2011 matrix awd with this engine. 351k and still going strong. oil changes every 10k, and the only engine work so far is serp belt and plugs.

  • @robertlindley6935
    @robertlindley6935 3 года назад +1

    Hey Scotty love your video’s - I got hook on Lexus years back my first one was 2000 RX300 then a RX400 then a RX450 - my next Lexus will be RX350L - I’ll never waste my money on a hybrid again - but after watching you videos I’ll stick with Lexus (Toyota) I also owned a couple of Cressida they where 6 cylinder cars absolutely bulletproof

  • @anonymike8280
    @anonymike8280 3 года назад +2

    What I heard is, they made the rings very thin and the rings had a very light spring pressure against the cylinder walls. It was done that way to reduce friction to help meet fuel economy standards.

    • @carriecrackrock1221
      @carriecrackrock1221 2 года назад

      My first gen camry has rings so thick you could cut a key into it and open a door

  • @TheUniversalEyes
    @TheUniversalEyes 4 года назад +293

    That was Toyota's biggest failure, they should have recalled those engines.

    • @seankitetu370
      @seankitetu370 4 года назад +5

      Woow i didnt know because i hve a 2009 toyota harrier with the same engine

    • @yahabibi317
      @yahabibi317 4 года назад +11

      Yeah man my oil would be down low on the stick by the time a oil change is due. It's crazy. And 09 rav4 only has like 45k miles on it

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад +20

      One of the dark day's in Toyota's history. The production of this engine was near the time of the Great Recession, so I think automakers were cutting-corners/cheaping out like crazy. But they learned their lesson and came back strong, and other automakers have made far more serious mistakes too, so....... My 2005 Sienna, with the 3.3 interference engine, is still running like a Rocky Balboa!

    • @TheUniversalEyes
      @TheUniversalEyes 4 года назад +15

      @@spenserchalkley7013 I have a 2013 Camry with a 4 cylinder, it consumes no oil, but it did develop transmission shudder at 40,000 miles. Toyota had to replace the torque converter free of charge.

    • @ethanmurray6658
      @ethanmurray6658 4 года назад +16

      They did.....toyota rebuild 100’s of thousands of these engines if not millions at no cost to the owner. The campaign is no longer active.

  • @zang9147
    @zang9147 4 года назад +37

    Ha, my brother’s Vega ran for 6 months then sat on the front lawn for 2 years.
    “Chevy Vagrant”

    • @robertbell525
      @robertbell525 4 года назад +2

      Mom had a 74 Vega at 50K miles and 5 years she carried a case of oil, probably a quart every 100 miles.

  • @jeliarra
    @jeliarra 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Scotty! I am in the market for a RAV4, or HIghlander! I will be checking for this engine!

  • @joeMW284
    @joeMW284 4 года назад

    I got the recall done on my Scion xb. They did an oil consumption test. They told me if it's 1.5qt low after 1000 miles they'd do the repair. It qualified, they fixed it and I've had no problems in the 5 years since it's been done. Great car, happy with the service. Car's at 180k miles now. If you have one of these engines, keep an eye on your oil light. If it flashes during hard braking you're critically low. That's how I realized I had a problem.

  • @RonZ7
    @RonZ7 4 года назад +60

    The 2az-fe engines are known for the notorious stripped headbolts.
    Shame on Toyota for no recall on these engines.

    • @youngb1ood
      @youngb1ood 4 года назад +1

      RONY THOMAS agree

    • @camryle5590
      @camryle5590 4 года назад +2

      Agree but not the same years for this oil consumption problem. I think that 2002 to 2006 faced stripped head bolt. 2007 to 2009 (or to 2011 for specific model) faced oil consumption issue.

    • @lilbluefoxie
      @lilbluefoxie 4 года назад +2

      what did they do on that? hire the cadillac northstar engineers

    • @bw5559
      @bw5559 4 года назад

      Had to install time-serts on my 06. Head bolts were barely finger tight!

    • @zacharyking4475
      @zacharyking4475 4 года назад

      My 2010 tc built in October '09 burns a little under a quart at 1100 miles

  • @michaelyork4554
    @michaelyork4554 4 года назад +3

    Damn Scotty, you got me worried so I had to go check. Nope, all good, thanks for getting me to clean the leaves from my ventilation spots under there seemingly designed to collect leaves?

  • @mosinw5301
    @mosinw5301 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video .I was looking at getting a Toyota those yrs with 4cyl

  • @757optim
    @757optim 4 года назад +1

    Retrofitting a Vega with the Iron Duke was an option, but you could still hear the car rusting on a quiet night.

  • @YA-ee9zf
    @YA-ee9zf 4 года назад +5

    hi scotty could you please make a video with a list of cars not to buy with what engines and years?

  • @markusdammasch9108
    @markusdammasch9108 4 года назад +7

    It wasn’t a design flaw in the engine on the part of the rings wearing out. It was a design flaw of too high piston temps heating up the engine oil on the cylinder bore, on the piston shirts, and around the oil ring. The higher temp burns lower quality oil and causes carbon buildup around the oil ring preventing it from working properly. If you use a good quality full synthetic oil from new or almost new then there’s no problem. Also these engine have NO tolerance for going a bit overdue for the service. Service it every 5000 miles max with good oil and no problems.

  • @robertvasquez240
    @robertvasquez240 Год назад +2

    My 2007 RAV4 with the 2.4L oil burner with over 268k miles was eating easily a quart a week. It finally broke down recently: I will probably sell it to a junk dealer even though it has an excellent automatic transmission and tires with lots of tread left on them. I would love to get the problem fixed, but I just don't like the idea of putting a lot of money into what is a losing cause. Ironically, I'm still driving my 1998 Camry with the 2.2L engine that has 329k miles: I'm probably going to finally get new strut assemblies all around since it still has the original struts. Yes, those struts have been making noises for at least the last 20-30k miles and it bottoms out on some speed bumps (which I drive gingerly over). I figure my '98 Camry will go at least another 30-40k miles until I get the timing belt changed again (last changed it at 269k miles). That 2.2L four banger still runs smoothly and gets excellent gas mileage (normally 24-26 mpg in the city and 30-32 mpg on the freeway). Thanks for the video (and I'm sure I probably got sent the TSB about the RAV4 oil burning problem and just didn't open it--my bad). All of my cars since the 1970s (except for my first one which was a Chevrolet Impala) have been Toyotas! And, yes, I want to get a new RAV4 but I'll wait until prices come back down to earth.

    • @johanesb2
      @johanesb2 7 месяцев назад

      How many miles u have on it when it started burning oil?

  • @leonel1982
    @leonel1982 4 года назад +1

    My XB had that problem and it took several tests and visits to two different dealerships to finally get it fixed up at only the cost of the fuel surcharge for the rental. Now it runs like a dream and I love it

  • @FrenchHawk878
    @FrenchHawk878 4 года назад +7

    03:25 The sign language I give my wife when I don't feel like like talking but in heat.

  • @grayloncross5837
    @grayloncross5837 4 года назад +5

    Thanks Scotty! I was literally looking to buy one this week😅

    • @finn808
      @finn808 4 года назад

      Same. Thinking about Acura now.

  • @encryptorEJ
    @encryptorEJ 4 года назад

    that would be great. I'd definitely save it on my phone and show the dealer if I owned one of these during those years.

  • @pattyeverett2826
    @pattyeverett2826 4 года назад +1

    When I was young, my uncle, who was always buying cheap used cars, had a Corvair that burned a quart of oil every 20 miles. He liked smoking people out at stoplights. He sold it to a person who was going to drive it to CA from OK(where he lives). The engine blew up after around 50 miles.

  • @cvrgames6248
    @cvrgames6248 4 года назад +8

    I have a 2010 Scion tC which has this dreaded oil burning issue.
    I took it to Toyota 2 different times. The first time they overfilled my engine on purpose so they wouldn’t have to do the repair for free. The second time, I watched them fill it up and checked the dipstick before they sealed off the engine. Lo and behold, it was about half a quart higher than normal. I had them drain it out and refill it to the correct level. After the testing the second time, they supposedly did the fix but my car still burns a quart of oil ever 900~ miles or so. I still even have photos and documentation of the event

  • @johntolson772
    @johntolson772 4 года назад +5

    Love your channel scotty. I've been watching it for years. I know you are a big Toyota fan. My uncle, a mechanic, was a big chevy fan as I am until he bought his first Toyota Celica back in the 80's. He loved that car and always bragged about it and since then he became a loyal Toyota fan. However, I just wanted to comment about how things have changed. I always heard Toyota's are bullet proof but it shows no manufacturer is based on how many recalls have been issued over the years. My gf had a 2008 Camry with this motor. Although it has high mileage, at that time had 170,000 (currently at 240,000), it burns 1 qt. of oil every 1000 miles. That's excessive so I researched it and found videos on RUclips about this little over two years ago. Apparently Toyota sent out letters to owners (my gf is original owner). She doesn't recall receiving a letter. Based on RUclips vids the letter states if the car is under 10 yrs old and less than 150,000 miles they will perform a test and if it consumes oil they will fix the problem for free. Guess what? She called Toyota and was 3 months past and about 20,000 miles over. They would not even consider helping her. I think that's b.s and they should have done the right thing. It was an engineering defect from no fault of the customer. I'm not saying the car is a piece of junk. It's not. It still runs good and even has a lot of original parts after all these years. The accessories still work. However, the right thing to do is take care of your loyal customers. Make them whole. Unfortunately, it's about money and how much is this all going to cost. Toyota should have recalled those affected models. Shame on them!!! My gf recently bought a new car (2019 Hyundai Elantra) and has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. Hope she gets many trouble free miles out of it. Funny thing is she gave her daughter her Camry because she needed a car. So it's still in the family. Now her daughter has to maintain checking the oil level but hey she got the car for free. Not a bad deal lol.

    • @swanaldmcdnld
      @swanaldmcdnld Год назад

      Oh no she went from a Toyota to a Hyundai 🤦 I hope they'll actually honor that 10y warranty cuz I'm sure that she'll need it

  • @eranomanahan9118
    @eranomanahan9118 3 года назад

    My first car was an accord. I shifted to Toyota for the same reputation as honda but with a better or cooler AC. My first Toyota is Camri and up to now running good. We have Prius, the only problem we met was the headlight bulb burning. BUT WITH OUR 2007 RAV 4, it is what you said. I am checking and adding oil every other day. They took it then for that repair after testing for oil consumption. It got better but only for 6 months. it returned to the same stupid situation.I always check the sparkplugs and the third one is the one that always have to be replaced.

  • @okmrocksU
    @okmrocksU 4 года назад

    Way back in the late 70's, a friend of mine fixed the Vega engine problem by hammering out the compartment and putting a hopped up 350 in it.

  • @raymathews7035
    @raymathews7035 4 года назад +3

    I have this engine in my Camry, and have almost 190k on it and I was able to control the oil burning. I use SeaFoam in the oil and gas and this has helped some.

    • @gamezmeow
      @gamezmeow 4 года назад

      Hey, What intervals did you use the Seafoam? My friends giving me his scion TC 2009 and I want to make sure the engine doesnt start burning oil

    • @markg999
      @markg999 4 года назад +1

      So not the seafoam you spray in the intake just oil and gas? We have 218k miles...seems to consume about a quart every 1k miles or so.

    • @juansegura6356
      @juansegura6356 5 месяцев назад

      Interesting 🤔, I have a 2012 Toyota Venza 4cylinder with 115k miles and it's burning 🔥 oil 🛢. 1 qaurt below 500 miles. My question is what's the Longevity and reliability with it burning oil ??? Other than burning 🔥 oil 🛢 it's great 👍

  • @dbrandon4528
    @dbrandon4528 4 года назад +3

    Throw some engine restore in that bad boy!! Or up the viscosity on the oil to a 5w30 instead of the 0w20.

  • @collapsingquantumwav
    @collapsingquantumwav 3 года назад

    Great video. Very informative. Thank you for posting Scotty.

  • @paulfromdonmills
    @paulfromdonmills 4 года назад +2

    The Venza is the same. I've seen 4 in the shop at one time. Pan off, head off, pistons out..

  • @lindanovak7232
    @lindanovak7232 4 года назад +31

    All true- I owned one of those Rav-4’s and it burned oil like crazy!

    • @PlymouthNeon
      @PlymouthNeon 4 года назад +1

      Did you get it fixed? I really hope you kept it or bought a different Toyota, because it was just a stupid mistake on their part and never really did anything like that again......unlike other manufactures.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 4 года назад +2

      Thankfully no Toyotas i have have ever had excessive oil consumption.

    • @stevek343
      @stevek343 4 года назад

      Never like those ravs.

    • @cristobalcardona5592
      @cristobalcardona5592 4 года назад +1

      The 2007 specially was a super bad year for Toyota many tranny failures! Even the 2007 Lexuses had some problems! Also do not remember if by that time they had the runaway throttle problems that cars would accelerate to the max and the accelerator was not responding! Then they fixed with carpet fasteners! They gave those for free! This I know the Camry Lexus Es 350 Rx 350 Highlander and some others had an oil line that usually burts and leaves the car without oil in seconds! Plus avoid first year models unless bought new or with warranty, even Toyota misses sometimes!

    • @juchou2983
      @juchou2983 4 года назад

      @@PlymouthNeon Toyota 1zz engines had severe oil burning issue from 2000 to 2005.

  • @austinr8501
    @austinr8501 4 года назад +3

    Another engine to avoid is the 1ZZ-FE
    These have timing chain tensioner failures; not the chain itself
    The engine is found in some celicas, corollas and usually the 99-02 MR2 spyder
    I learned the hard way and if I would have known I would change that tensioner every 25-30k miles

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 2 года назад +1

      The 1ZZ is generally very reliable. We’ve got one with 250k kms on it, my Aunt’s has 230k kms on it, a friends has 330-ish kms on it. (Not entirely sure, odo stops at 299999) None of em had ever had bad issues. 1 water pump, a belt tensioner and a valve cover gasket between em.

    • @jayislander
      @jayislander Год назад

      @@loganamurray64what vehicle

    • @loganamurray64
      @loganamurray64 Год назад

      @@jayislander Ours is a 2005 Corolla LE, aunt's is a 2007 Corolla CE and my friend's is a 2004 (I believe) Corolla CE as well. Thinking about it my HS mechanic's shop also had a 2006 Matrix with 230k kms that was only totaled due to an accident

  • @Hawtload
    @Hawtload 4 года назад

    2005 scion xB with over 200k miles. Mine has been leaking oil, has had sensor issues, as well as indications about the catalytic convertor. gonna check the sticker tomorrow

  • @rezR2
    @rezR2 4 года назад +1

    07 Scion tc has this engine 2az fe had a oil cusumption test . Burns a full quart of oil every 1000 miles was fixed for free 3500 + in repairs and car rental . Engine was so strong afterwards blew the clutch 500 miles later.

  • @bobsum1745
    @bobsum1745 4 года назад +8

    "when I was a young mechanic" Is this History Channel?

  • @ryanwarsh
    @ryanwarsh 4 года назад +3

    I suppose I wouldn’t have bought my 2009 Vibe if I had known about this issue. That being said, my Vibe burns a little oil in between oil changes but it still runs great at 140K. Regular maintenance is key with this engine.

    • @Hanmablood
      @Hanmablood 2 года назад

      How's your Toyota 09 now ?
      Also what model ?
      Corolla ? Or Camry ?

    • @ryanwarsh
      @ryanwarsh 2 года назад

      @@Hanmablood It was a 2009 Pontiac Vibe with the 2az engine. I don’t have it anymore because someone with bad brakes t-boned me last year and my insurance company totaled it. I now drive a 2017 Hyundai Sonata that burns oil even worse than my Vibe did.

  • @gailjohnson6670
    @gailjohnson6670 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video..Have a blessed day..

  • @oraldavis7387
    @oraldavis7387 Год назад

    Thanks, Scotty I almost bought a 2011 toyota camry with the same mentioned Engine, this was informative.

  • @youtbe999
    @youtbe999 4 года назад +3

    Scotty: "I've seen it so many times, it will make your (over)head (cam) spin"...

  • @abliss2006
    @abliss2006 4 года назад +4

    I hope scotty's videos help get the word out with Toyota's oil consumption problem. I sold my oil burning 2008 Camry 5 speed manual for $2300 because 2 different dealerships wouldn't honor the engine rebuild. Only had 151k miles at the time. I was adding 1 quart of oil every 600 miles. Ended up buying a 2010 camry 6 speed manual with the redesigned 2.5L engine. One of the best decisions I've made.

    • @swanaldmcdnld
      @swanaldmcdnld Год назад

      I have an 08 Camry and I just put the 3rd engine that's been in the body, the engine's vin says it's a 2az-fe from an 04 Camry

  • @Sampsonay
    @Sampsonay 4 года назад +2

    The 1zz-fe does this as well. My 2001 corolla burns a quart of oil every 150-200 miles, it's insane.

    • @dvsbikes8373
      @dvsbikes8373 2 года назад

      Lol, you think a quart every 200 miles is insane? Try 5L of oil every 200 miles 😂😂 my old 1zz cost me 3 times as much in oil than it did in fuel

  • @detuned_SEKAI
    @detuned_SEKAI 4 года назад

    i drive an 02 highlander with the same engine. im almost at 156,000 miles on it and it still drives amazing! i haven’t noticed any oil burning problems yet

  • @yuvgotubekidding
    @yuvgotubekidding 4 года назад +52

    Show this video to a dealer but watch his face. Veins popping, eyes bulging, steam from the ears. "Oh, that Scotty guy again!"

    • @bladerunner1458
      @bladerunner1458 3 года назад

      Best to not mess with someone who veins are popping out

  • @hasan4523
    @hasan4523 4 года назад +13

    ☺️ I never miss any post. I also love your new page.

    • @scottykilmer
      @scottykilmer  4 года назад +12

      thank you!

    • @roscoeelcocko1863
      @roscoeelcocko1863 4 года назад +4

      I 2nd that

    • @stephendibari5010
      @stephendibari5010 4 года назад +2

      ME too ! Loving the history vids on TOYOTA!!

    • @stephendibari5010
      @stephendibari5010 4 года назад +1

      Scotty Kilmer You told me how crappy BMW’s are (Thank god !) and convinced me to sell it last year and buy my 2013 Lexus ES350 ! It now only has 36k miles and I’ve changed my oil with Synthetic Mobil One ! Best car I’ve over owned !!
      Ironically my first “new” car i ever owned was in 1986, I bought a new 1986 Toyota MR2 with 5 speed manual, i babied that car, sold it after 7 years and 73k miles... Never did anything on it except change the oil and tires... Not even a brake job ! I “engine” braked Saved my pads and rotors !! I should’ve stuck with TOYOTA going forward ! I never bought another Toyota/ Lexus until April 2019. Other then my retirement car my C7 Corvette Stingray which i plan on buying in 4 years I’ll never buy anything other than Toyota or Lexus ! Than again With my ES350 having only 36k miles I wont have a need to replace this for a VERY VERY LONG TIME !!

  • @stevenpdxedu
    @stevenpdxedu 4 года назад +2

    Who can afford NOT to watch Scotty's posts? Not me! Thanks Scotty.

  • @snutmeez
    @snutmeez 3 года назад

    Great video, super awesome job, I have a tick happenin with my 2az-fe, don't know if it's a burned valve, or a rod knock, but at idle the tailpipe spits water 3 feet from behind the car....hmmm burned valve? When I changed the exhaust header, I looked in at the valves, they looked in good shape, also seafoamed her, she still tickin. Oh yeah, at cold start, it idles fine, tickin starts after engine is at operating temp.

  • @richardhernandez3088
    @richardhernandez3088 4 года назад +5

    Video Scotty love your other channel

  • @Tanxxable
    @Tanxxable 3 года назад +8

    Dang, I had an 08 with this engine and had to keep adding oil every other week or so. It somehow lived to 365k miles before it was just undriveable 😅

    • @Hanmablood
      @Hanmablood 2 года назад

      Was that a Toyota Corolla 08 ? Or Camry ?

    • @Tanxxable
      @Tanxxable 2 года назад

      @@Hanmablood Camry

  • @mvhassallfree1031
    @mvhassallfree1031 4 года назад +1

    I have a 2009 Camry with this engine and it burns around 1 Liter every 2000km (engine has 400,000km / 250,000 miles on it ) I change the oil and filter around 7,000km, its a great car, it keeps going and going and going....................... Thanks for all the tips Scotty! waving at you from Australia

    • @juansegura6356
      @juansegura6356 5 месяцев назад

      Interesting 🤔, I have a 2012 Toyota Venza 4cylinder with 115k miles and it's burning 🔥 oil 🛢. 1 qaurt below 500 miles. My question is what's the Longevity and reliability with it burning oil ??? Other than burning 🔥 oil 🛢 it's great 👍

  • @samuelgraham2251
    @samuelgraham2251 4 года назад

    Great info Scotty. How about the Toyota 1nzfe engine? I have a 2012 Toyota Corolla xli, and it comes with a 1nzfe engine. I bought the car about 6 months ago and I realized that this engine burns oil.

  • @andrewstewart2721
    @andrewstewart2721 4 года назад +3

    I have a 2018 Corolla, bought it brand-new, and it has 2 safety recalls on it, for the air bag and a fuel pump......Should of stuck with Mazda.

  • @billherzog5375
    @billherzog5375 4 года назад +4

    I had an 05 Scion XB with 300k on the original motor and it burned a little oil but was ok with me considering how reliable it was!

    • @ryanwarsh
      @ryanwarsh 4 года назад

      Bill Herzog yes I think he’s making this issue sound worse than it really is. My 2009 Pontiac Vibe burns a little oil but it’s still a solid running car. It’s nice to hear you have a 2AZ with 300K

    • @johnp556
      @johnp556 2 года назад

      @@ryanwarsh 05-07 didn't have the 2AZ FE engine, it was the 2008 and 2009, maybe 10 too.

  • @reazrahman1850
    @reazrahman1850 4 года назад +2

    Hey Scotty, I think toyota fixed this through recall. But they only fixed those which engine passed their test that burned a certain amount of oil. My 2007 Rav 4 was in that category after 3 times they said it is not burning enough oil. On 4th occasion they said it is burning enough oil. Nothing changed in between. The first few times they lied saying it is okay... But when I did independent test, it burned more than their burning requirement.

  • @raiden4004
    @raiden4004 4 года назад

    Thank U Always for your videos Scotty‼️‼️‼️‼️ Love and Watch All of your Videos‼️‼️ I’m a Huge Fan‼️ please continue to keep up the Amazing Work‼️‼️ 🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌💪💯

  • @revbikerbigd8664
    @revbikerbigd8664 4 года назад +4

    Clogged oil rings holes with carbon! Flushing engine with synthetic oil changes can sometimes fix it after 1000 miles, 3X in 1000 miles!

    • @jamesbramblett3346
      @jamesbramblett3346 2 года назад

      Fixed mine by flushing with synthetic oil. Now back to Dino oil and no more oil burning 👍🏻

    • @revbikerbigd8664
      @revbikerbigd8664 2 года назад

      @@jamesbramblett3346 how many times and what oil did you use???? 👍

    • @jamesbramblett3346
      @jamesbramblett3346 2 года назад +2

      @@revbikerbigd8664 I used Mobil 1 full synthetic (recommended by “Peter Finn the car doctor “) and did 4 flushes. I could see the carbon coming out each time. Car had 160,000 miles and was using 1 quart per 600 miles. Now it uses less than 1 quart per 3000 miles using Toyota conventional 5w-30 motor oil. These engines need frequent oil changes and they are fantastic engines.

  • @dumbobear1
    @dumbobear1 4 года назад +6

    Confirmed. Ours burned oil heavily after 100k miles. Spark plugs fouled and stalled every 10k
    2azfe engine. Mad at Toyota

    • @PartikleVT
      @PartikleVT 3 года назад

      Fun fact: this problem doesnt exist in european models. So its mostly a manufacturing issue in the U.S plant.

    • @brandonneal1228
      @brandonneal1228 3 года назад

      Did yours stall and drop rpm?

  • @veil67
    @veil67 4 года назад +2

    same as the early 2000’s Toyota Tacoma, had to replace the entire frame for free , the literally brakes in two pieces , lawsuits in the USA and in Canada

  • @David55z
    @David55z 4 года назад +1

    Have a 110k mile 2009 RAV with the 2AR-FE motor & it burns no oil. Love the vehicle. Most reliable vehicle ever

  • @williamchaney6154
    @williamchaney6154 4 года назад +3

    Now for my weekly dose of Scotty!

    • @njsongwriter
      @njsongwriter 4 года назад +1

      Weekly dose? I think it puts out three videos a day...🤔

  • @davinp
    @davinp 4 года назад +18

    Oh yah that engine, also used in the Camry and Scion tC. Looks like the paint is faded on the roof of that Rav4. Since it is a design flaw, it should not matter the mileage and so all should be fixed for free regardless of age and mileage

    • @GSskiracer
      @GSskiracer 4 года назад +1

      Good Luke, 2000-2003 1zz had piston rings issues too, Tacoma frame rusted out, same excuses, bad design, hit and miss on dealer fix

    • @drivedb7
      @drivedb7 4 года назад +2

      Davin Peterson - You realize what you’re advocating, right? This problem started when the engine was introduced in 2002. No manufacturer is going to foot the bill to rebuild an eighteen-year-old engine which would probably be burning oil by now anyway.

    • @GSskiracer
      @GSskiracer 4 года назад

      @@drivedb7 had the rusted Tacoma years ago, had 1zz for over 10 years or so, not trying to get anything now, just saying they had issues, they didn't do anything about it for many, sure some got the royal treatment, others not so luky

    • @drivedb7
      @drivedb7 4 года назад +2

      Celicagt1zz - Put simply, Toyota quality is quickly becoming a myth.

    • @GSskiracer
      @GSskiracer 4 года назад

      @@drivedb7 Toyota quality is for real, I'm a believer, just wish they'd do the right thing when a problem is brought to light, no smoke an mirrors, but nice to know what to avoid, my 2000 Celica uses no oil, was luky or it may have been fixed, my 2001 Celica is a user

  • @bruceschmidt3539
    @bruceschmidt3539 4 года назад

    Hi Scotty from Mn
    Your videos are the best
    Stay safe

  • @flinch622
    @flinch622 4 года назад

    The problem described 8:23 is one I had [different manufacturer] with similar issues: no codes [ever], and the engine liked to stall [sometimes] but only when coming to a stop. It turned out to be the MAF sensor putting out a bad signal. I don't know how their engine coding in the computer was written, but with no trouble code popping up I assume their monitoring was more like a pass/fail check was the only thing that could trip a check engine light, and all other things combined... the computer hinged off of rpm and MAF signal: if those two just existed, everything else just followed the programmed curve and maybe the injection system could keep up with the bad data/maybe not. Kind of like it had a "who you gonna believe" moment: MAF signal or the O2 sensor feedback? Needless to say, a transmission rebuild does not fix a MAF sensor problem. Techs these days need to not only know how to use an o-scope, but run a datalogger as well - the ear doesn't differentiate time of events very well inside a 30mS window -you can't shadetree a whole lot of things anymore based on a 'tick' or other mechanical noise.