FOX Sports’ Joel Klatt: Why the New York Giants Bungled the NFL Draft. Again. | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- FOX Sports’ Joel Klatt tells Rich Eisen why the New York Giants continually drop the ball when it comes to the NFL Draft.
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Joel Klatt should tell us more about his pre-draft evaluation of Zach Wilson. These guys have the memory of an NBA shooter.
😂 comment of the year my man
this comment right here ^ ... Whitty!!!! lol
I really hope he reads this comment somehow. He’s got that cocky voice too like “he knows”
The Giants are nailing this draft, and I don't give a Klatt what he says.
Nope, Daniel Jones is garbage
Media is really making it seem like JJ is a can’t miss prospect.
This guy is a big ten homer
@@dlinder1640both of them are.
Big facts. I don’t see they hype with McCarthy 💯
@@dlinder1640 the guy according to scouts need
s to sit at least a season -- not even close to the top 2 QBs in the draft
These people r lost... but they still get paid.. smh
So Klatt had JJ McCarthy as his 14th best player, doesn't have Penix in top 50 and has Nabers #5 and says the Giants didn't have a good 1st rd.Make it make sense
Sorry, I can't do the impossible. This dude is just a hater showing his true colors, so his logic makes no sense
This guy is one of the biggest haters I’ve ever seen.
They clearly had a plan: Try to trade up for Maye or take an elite WR prospect. So, he’s basically saying that unless the Giants had somehow forced NE to accept a trade for #3 or reached for a QB they didn’t want (McCarthy) then they had no plan. It’s sounds more like: ‘Your drafting sucks because you didn’t do what I would’ve done.’ They aren’t winning this year regardless, but so far this offseason they added a (hopefully) #1 WR, a top edge rusher (Burns), and OG. That’s (again, hopefully) strengthening positions of need. Seems like they have a plan. Ride Jones or Lock this year and go for the QB next offseason.
They'll probably go on defense tonight get that CB2 or Safety or could go on O and get a TE, RB, or double dip at WR. But they definitely invested a lot of resources in the offensive line to the point where they may take 1 very late round pick. If they can trade up for Kool-aid, that would set them up at corner for the next decade.
Thank You, that’s a Great Decision Giants Made
Yea they've done a great job this offseason for sure. The DJ contract was a mistake last year but they look like they recognize that and will be getting Nabers a true QB1 next season.
Exactly! Thats clearly the plan they’re setting up.
I'm guessing that the Giants pick Rattler today
He struggled way too hard trying to answer that question and just wanted to take a shot at the Giants
Jones is garbage
just a ridiculous take. holy sh*t.
This is ridiculous - JJ isn’t a home run QB by any stretch. Why are they thinking they giants HAD to pick a QB just for the sake of doing it even if the prospect isn’t great…
So Giants select a top 2 WR in the draft, and they aren't a better team than they were before they drafted him? The Giants are not just a QB away, idk what team he's been watching
The Giants aren't a wr away either
Thats the thing they don't watch. They get paid to make asinine comments, so people rage click on their videos. Nabers was the highest graded overall player in the draft and the Giants have been in desperate need of a WR1 since OBJ left. Anyone complaining about this is a grifter.
@@barbaracaroll a team can only draft one player per pick
Sorry another diva wr isn't moving the needle toward a super bowl it's a Barkley situation all over again good player but not at the position that matters the most in football QB
@@barbaracaroll picking Nabers is better than reaching for a player like JJ at 6 because that's how they ended up w/ DJ. They had a plan, Maye was their guy. They tried to trade up for him, NE said no. Giants moved on to BPA which was a position of desperate need aka WR1.
Who's Joel Klatt? So, I had to Google him, and apparently, he never played in the NFL, let alone got drafted. On top of all that, I don't know if he has the credibility and insightful to discuss any player who is drafted as high as #6.
Soooo who should the Giants have drafted Klatt? McCarthy wouldn't work in NY but Nabers is also a bad pick?
nabers will likely go down as the best wr in this draft Klatt misses on so much draft stuff. I'm a cards fan and I personally liked nabers above Harrison Jr. more explosive.
He dont know Klatt!
he hates the giants. giants werent high on jj mccarthy or penix jr.
Does he believe JJ has potential to be a top tier QB? I would say no,
Now does Nabers have top WR potential? Yes, just because you need a QB doesn’t mean you pass on a better player for a QB you don’t value.
Kirk Cousins is an answer and has as many playoff wins as Daniel Jones who is 10 years younger?
If there's one guy I'm NOT going to ask for draft advice it's Joe Klatt.
Yes a rookie over a QB that has a playoff win under his belt. These media guys are idiots
I know everyone has their own special biases and that's fun and interesting. But man does Rich love talking about JJ. If he ends up being good, we will never hear the end of it
These analysts hilarious, is there a more pointless job out there, these guys get the QB wrong all the damn time. Frankly, I don’t see what all the hype is about JJ McCarthy, these guys act like he is the 2nd coming
there's a reason Joel Klatt is on radio and not in a draft room
LOL good one
ouch!! that's PERSONAL! haha
I'm getting tired of this anti Giants nonsense, we picked a great prospect. It's amazing how the jets think they won a superbowl just by signing a preening injured nutjob. When was their last playoff win again? As for Klatt, JJ better get OROY, especially being gifted Jefferson and Addison.
Both are still trying to justify their obvious wrong takes on JJ and the Giants. This guy was probably the source for his fake"buyers remorse" rumor, so they both are trying to double down on how they got it so wrong.
The Giants played this draft right. 6 was too high for JJ and trading out with MIN will take them out of the Nabers and Odunze sweepstakes. They stayed and take BPA which was a position of dire need. Reaching for JJ at 6 would put him in the same situation as DJ. They tried to trade up for Maye because that was their guy but the Pats said no. Picking JJ at 6 would be settling.
JJ is where he's supposed to be where they have a lot of talent on offense and were just a QB away from really doing something. Giants don't have the skill players the Vikings do and are one of the best pass blocking units in the league. If he succeeds in MIN, look at what he has around him and you'll see why.
how's that copium going
It's amazing that people who should know how the NFL draft works say a team bungles the draft after one round. They needed a WR1 and got one. Pretty simple.
They need a QB. Gtta have someone to throw to the new receiver lol. Da iel Jones aint it
@@mattyb1030 guy, they owe Jones money. it doesn't make sense to pay ANOTHER qb lol
@@mattyb1030 let me reverse that, they draft a QB, who is he throwing the ball to?
Exactly. Love how everyone kills the Giants for not having a WR1 or any game breakers on offense. They get both with potentially a top 3 player in the draft. And here we are again. Just constant negative crap
@@mattyb1030 They had a plan. They tried to trade up for Maye, that was their guy, Pats said No, Giants moved on. Took Nabers which I thought was their most pressing need. Imagine not having a WR1 for 6 years before DJ was even drafted. They got a top 3 WR in this draft who will become a contributor day 1 and make that room better. They could double dip at WR later in the draft maybe even Day 3. But I expect some defense tonight or get a RB or TE.
So JJ is going to a place where he can succeed. Wouldn't that be what the Giants are tryiny to do for their futue qb instead of selling the farm and having no draft capital to build around a new qb?? This guy ia a joke... speaking out both sides of his mouth
JJ was the 5th QB taken… the media is talking as if he was this supremely valued player, he may be good, but this like his draft stock is media created.
Probably the worst take I've heard about the draft. They tried to move up for Maye. They couldn't. They obviously think JJ sucks so why would they draft him JUST because they need a QB? That is not how it should work and those are often the QBs who fail in the NFL. When desperate teams massively reach for QB just because they need one. Nabers was the best option here and when next year comes along their new QB will have great weapons around him. Nabers will be a star and Nabers' presence will put the rest of the receivers in their correct positions. This was an A pick. A+ would have been the trade up for Maye.
Funny. When they asked McCarthy where he thought he was going, he said New York which would contradict Klatt
Nabers is going to get a lot closer to Canton than JJ McCarthy. The Giants are having an excellent draft so far through the first 4 rounds. Joel Klatt has historically been wrong a lot more than he's been right. Check the receipts. 😎
Jones got hurt last year it’s happens it’s football, but the year before that he took us to the playoffs and won a game on the road with not much help, people are morons with short term memory!!!!
Against those same “better situation” vikings
First minute when Joel spoke, I was in complete agreement. It felt like there was no PLAN or theme for this draft. Look at the Rams draft for crying out loud. They had a fantastic draft.
He’s right about Giants drafting abilities and history.
It’s been poor for last ten years.
Missed on many really good players and picked Evan Neal.
However the giants Woukd have been dumb to trade picks to move up to draft a QB who didn’t really excell in college.
That’s crazy
He still would have no weapons and a bad offensive line so now you have ruined His career as well.
Giants needed to get offensive line right but it’s been 2 years and they have not.
At best they may have a serviceable line.
Klatt is crazy to say NY should have wasted picks to get a mystery QB.
That’s why he’s not a gm
Neal was almost universally regarded as a cant miss in half the mocks that year he was even some peoples 1st overall pick so you cant blame them for neal maybe his development but not the pick
@@user-jh7so7gx5k yes you can blame them
Because they had months to scout him
With huge resources to scout him
Mel kiper etc do NOT determine the draft
Otherwise why have scouting departments?
That’s a poor excuse.
Because others had him high so YOU don’t do your research?
Shows how poor giants scouting and gm decision making is.
They had 2 years to fix the o line
Now entering Schoen’s 3 rd year there is no guarantee of this years o line
This is the insider Rich was talking about when he made the biggest fuss about hearing “ buyer’s remorse” that attempted to make JJ McCarthy seem like a Can’t miss prospect. I get it now.
The New York Giants have only started two black quarterbacks in their entire existence. Geno Smith, 2017 and Tyrod Taylor 2023 and they were black back ups. For them to take Bo that damn early is INSANE! He will be Daniel Jones 2.0.
That's the dumbest s*** I've ever heard. Do you know how many teams never had a starting black QB till recently? Patriots, Packers, Vikings, 49ers, Colts. It's not an intentional thing. There are more white QBs than black QBs to choose from. That's just a fact.
I can't comprehend how they don't understand the draft. The Giants were at 6. That sucked, but it is what it is. The Pats were NOT going to give up pick 3. Do you really think that they saw Jacoby Brissett as their future? As far as JJ goes? I do wish him the best in Minnesota, but if Schoen did not evaluate him as a pick 6 prospect, then he was wise not to choose him. Don't chase less than what you want.
This is just ridiculous now.The Giants bungled because they didn’t reach on a qb and give up draft capital for him(referring to Maye)?.This team is not a complete team and they desperately needed a WR1 and they got a pretty good one and not only that but it didn’t cost them a thing and it gives the team a chance to truly evaluate Jones and Locke with zero excuses and if it doesn’t work out they draft their franchise guy next year or trade for a proven QB(Maybe Josh Allen).
These analysts are crazy as hell the don't have a clue what they talking take a QB that had no elite skills set and pass on a top 5 player in the whole draft please stop letting this goofy dudes get podcast
Some people had nabers as the best player in the draft or 2nd best player in the draft. To not take him there when they don't like JJ would be idiotic
We just watched the Browns win a playoff game without an “answer”. Drafting a QB just cause he’s in the draft is no way to run a franchise. Seems to be common knowledge to everybody except for when you’re analyzing the Giants. Insanity.
The. GIANTS got 3 young WRs now . That should be very good.
If they get a rookie QB next year
That rookie QB. Is walking into a very good deal.
Just like C Williams is now.where he has 3 good WR this year
Next year that rookie QB is walking into the same situation
Giants last 2 coaches were not good and so were their last two general managers, but Joe Shane is doing one heck of a job, Mel kipper knows more football than all these people who suck at what they think, who cares, we are on the rise with Joe Shane
JJ is in a good situation but he is not a top 6 player in this draft. Klatt didn’t bother to mention that Nabers potentially has more upside than even MHJ. Whatever.
Giants drafted the best WR in the draft. And they did well because they didn’t make the other mistakes.
If you trade for maye you put a raw prospect into a bad position. And you give up a lot of assets to do it
If you draft JJ he isn’t going to put you over the top. I like JJ but only in the right spot.
JJ went to the right spot. And giants picked the right player for where they are now.
what someone does for clicks. He can't honestly say that Nabor's makes us weaker, let alone the number 1 safety in the draft.
why do these idiots assume mcCarthy is a franchise qb.? yes the giants need to replace jones but not with the 4th best qb in the draft. they have a bunch of holes. the major blunder by shoen was neal who lost them at least 3 games last year. however everyone thought he was a great pick at the time. don't listen to pundits. they are overpaid and don't deserve a microphone.
I would agree with him when gettleman was the GM, but since Joe Schoen has taken over, his drafting has been great
The Giants would have gotten trashed on if they drafted Mccarthy without any playmaker to help him
Ehhh. Wrong. They have no one at QB now. Who’s throwing to Nabers? Daniel Jones? LMAO. The guy sucks and can’t throw down field. Hope Nabers likes 7 yard outs.
And vise versa who would JJ throw too??? Either way we are missing pieces and had to start somewhere. Nabers is more elite and proven than JJ.
@@1234KING4and no line could protect them. 2nd most sacks given up in nfl history at 86 and klatt is complaining about nabers. Same guy thought darnold was a god at qb.
Love Joel Klatt but this made no sense. How do you say the Giants fumbled not taking JJ but then go on to say that the Vikings are better suited for JJ. Like that’s makes no sense. Obviously if the Giants aren’t prepared to bring in a QB the next best thing was to do was to take a weapon from the current or future QB.
But Klatt, didn't you have Nabers going to the Giants in your final mock draft?
If you have two quarterbacks you have zero quarterbacks it's been said a million times
Taking DJ was a mistake; then the Gmen doubled down on their mistake by giving DJ a large contract. The G Men needed a play maker to help DJ so, they can get the egg of their faces and appear as though they are supporting DJ. MN is a really good pick. So were the DB and FS they drafted. Ownership does not have a plan at best their plan is poor.
He says the Giants were not a good landing spot for JJ so tell us what the Giants should have done differently??
Every analysis of a draft 5 years later is usually wrong. We will see when the season starts. Would I like to see the Giants address the offensive line more yes. But you need weapons need to build a team before you can trade the future for a maybe QB.
remember boys if klatt says something it's the opposite so we good 😂
This dude is just salty u know he crazy saying nabers is a worse pick then the falcons picking Penix
Super salty, Penix is easily the surprise pick of the night. Just paid cousins and get his successor in the same draft instead of going defense? I don't understand the logic there.
They’re both fine picks, Joel just mad they didn’t do what he wanted.
Rich Eisen bungled picking this guest.
Try tried for Maye, but couldn’t seal the deal and adjusted. They didn’t value JJ the same way and Penix injury history doesn’t make him a good successor to Daniel Jones. They’ll probably try to figure out QB next year.
How is drafting arguably the 3rd best prospect in the draft at 6 a head scratcher now the eventual replacement next year will actually have a weapon to throw to. You reach on a qb at 6 the qb is throwing to the worst wr core in the nfl
As a giants fan I’m ok with letting jones play, at least if he proves he’s not the guy then the next guy will have a good leg up with a WR1 like nabers.
Feel like the giants did the right thing even though I hate Daniel jones. Here’s why, they can get a qb next year or the year after and start their new chapter at qb already having a good wr, a good oline, a good defense, and a good rb. If they throw JJ or whoever into the crap show that they are right now, he wouldn’t be able to succeed and he’d be deemed a bust even if it’s the team around him. They need to build a serious team to surround the next qb with.
These guys aren't All world above knowing what goes on in the front office if it doesn't fit don't force it
Why don’t you provide a solution instead of complaining. Who should they have drafted if their only top 5 rated guys were Caleb and Maye , which has now come out. They offered above the 600pt difference to Pats to get Maye and Pats wanted two 1st and two 2nd. That’s insane for 3 spots. You can’t force a qb at 6 and take a guy you don’t believe in. So calm down. Hate these draft experts. They are often clueless
Facts, JS walked away and was perfectly fine doing so. He didn't reach for JJ like Gettleman probably would've if he were still the GM.
If the Giants made that deal, the same guys would be talking about how stupid Schoen is and how much of a bust Maye was going to be.
@@kathleenrossi4840 100%. Incentive is such a huge problem for all media and platforms now. If negativity and controversy create eyes and clicks and engagement, then they all succumb to audience capture. It’s such a shitty model for the viewer.
Spoke about a better situation with the Vikings , the giants are trying to build a better situation for a rookie QB to come into k don't get what's so hard to understand.
Guys like Nabers are hard to come by and are expensive. It's obvious they are setting up to draft a qb next year relax ppl.
Some of these so called analysts just look for controversy, nobody really cares about their opinions. Giants got a top WR , a proves playmaker.
That Why we don’t listen to Joel
A rookie QB isn't gonna put this team over the top. Klatt is a clown.
If you actually follow the giants you see exactly what Schoen is doing. This team is coming together and next yeat may be the year we find a QB. This guy acts like all these picks at QB are sure fire picks
Joel Klatt: The Giants did alot to improve the O-line AND D-line. Now they have drafted a true WR 1 AND got a solid replacement for Xavier McKinney in Tyler Nubin. How can you honstly say they didn't do much to improve ?
As far as the QB's go, There are 3 Possibilities:
1. Daniel Jones finally gets his go to guy and use him to QB the Giants to the playoffs as much as he did with Saquon Barkley.
2. Drew Lock comes in and proves to be a pleasant surprise. Guys like Ryan Tannahill and Ryan Fitzpatrick have proven a change of scenary to the right organization does a QB a world of good.
3. Tommy Devito develops into a bonofied starter. He's shown flashes of what he can be if he delelops any kind of high level consistancy. He'd be a popular choice among Giants fans.
My man they tried moving up to 3 n didn’t get the qb they loved so you want them just to take a qb to take a qb??
Imagine the situation the next rookie QB walks into in NY in 2025. A solid #1 and #2 WR for the next 3-4 years. Another year of re-enforcing the o-line will help too.
For this year, Let DJ play his 6-10 games before he gets injured. For the rest of the games, Let’s see what Tommy Cutlets and Lock bring to the table.
Maybe with this year’s slightly softer schedule we sneak into the playoffs.
Actually it would be wise to sit DJ as he has an injury clause that gaurantees a massive cap hit if he gets injured. It's the same injury clause that Denver had with Russel Wilson and the reason they benched him then cut him. Basically they won't have any money next year to spend if DJ gets injured. I think it's Drew Lock's time to shine. He has weapons and an improved o line and he has experience.
JJ going to the Vikings just makes me happy as a football fan
Us as Giants fans too😊
He's in the perfect situation. Great line, great skill players, offensive minded head coach, perfect situation. Going to the Giants would've been a nightmare scenario.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924 which is why bashing the Giants for not taking a QB is moronic. They’re trying to built something for when that day comes
@@juniegyllenhaal3937 facts.
They drafted arguably the best WR in the draft class or at least 1B behind MHJR in some valuations. No disrespect to JJ but WR is a position of need for the G-Men as well.
You never build a team around a wr
@@barbaracaroll Considering the remaining QB's at 6 I get why the Giants took Nabers. They probably do not value JJ as much as the top 3 QB's taken. You also have to consider what type of QB will work with what Dabol has in his playbook.
So just take a qb if u dont believe in him? Nabers is best wr in draft
It's about Team Building, from Inside Out. Not Outside In. The Bears have two very good WR's, a very good TE and a capable RB who can pass catch as well, right? Who are the Bears going to throw the ball to? Bears have "4 receivers" already on the roster. Imagine the pass rush with just 4 Defensive Linemen if they added BYRON MURPHY II. The best interior defender in this year's draft, Murphy brings an explosion inside that the Bears need. How many Superbowls did Tom Brady and the Patriots win with a “trio of #1 wide receivers”?
JJ made way too much sense. So of course Joe “Outsmartmyself” Scheon went WR? We have drafted WR before when we needed to start thinking QB, and it got us 10 years of this.
Yeeeeeaaa never taking this guy seriously again
Didnt the giants beat those vikings in the playoffs
Klatt still mad nobody takes his evals serious i see
So ur telling me the Giants reaching for a QB set them back a decade so they should’ve reached for a QB again n it would’ve been better this time around 🤔 yeah great logic joe
We’re way worse at free agency than the draft
I trust in Joe & schoen-never heard of Joe klatt. enough said.
Giants have one of the worst rosters in football, one of the worst QB rooms in football and they draft a WR
I like the pick. I know Jones isn’t Joe Burrow or anything like that, but who has he had to throw to? Draft a QB in round 1 and they have the same issue.
Maybe they will take Spencer Rattler that could be a good pick at QB
Reached at 6 for Jones and still paying for it. Jj will be a good pro, but not a star.
Joel Klown
I’m quick to hate on the giants but I think they made the right pick given how the board fell.
I like Klatt a lot, he is very good. I disagree with this particular take.
He can’t be serious 😂
Reminds me when all the "experts" were killing the giants for not taking Dwayne Haskins, RIP btw but that wasnt working out
Time will tell.
Mccarthy not a 1st round pick talent not there
They didn’t have an elite receiver, now they do. If Jones truly isn’t it, they can get out of his deal at the end of the season, and the next QB will drop into a near-prime situation. Just another hater, I see.
Leave it to Eisen to bring in a fellow Giants hater. Any deal the Giants could make with NE would've cost more draft capital than any rebuilding team can reasonably afford. What is it that makes anyone think bringing in a QB, one sole player, suddenly makes them a contender for the next season? Isn't that what the Jests tried (again) last season? Mortgaging draft capital with a team with as many holes as this team has will only get a new QB killed, much like what they did to Jones. Let's build a decent team before bringing in the next sacrificial lamb for the NYC scribes to hate.
What would the giants do with a qb??!!! What a dumb move... a qb.. got the worst o line in history.. hey.. let's get a qb!! Like in what mind set??? I feel the same about a wr. Daboll is a scrub. Horrific decision making in big spots. Schoen... also a scrub.. time to hit the refresh button! AGAIN!! SMH... lol.. a qb they say.. wow.
You seriously can’t believe a word out of this dudes mouth. JJ wants to go to a team that hasn’t ever been successful in its entire lifetime. Because they are set up for success? Where has all of that success gotten them? Beaten like a rug in the playoffs the year before by the team that supposedly doesn’t know what it’s doing. Didn’t sniff the playoffs last year because the team as a whole is not good. This dude has the worst takes I’ve ever seen outside of an elementary school kid that just got into football and is making evaluations based on who has the coolest uniforms.
Dont think so....
Lmfao Klatt has no clue what he’s talking about. JJ is Brock purdy. We already have one of those.
I don't agree with everything Klatt says but he's right this time, without a franchise QB there really is no plan, even if Giants get a QB NEXT off season it'll take at least 2 years to mold him so the current roster isn't even relevant at the end of the day Giants are still at the mercy of Danny Dimes sucking or not
Yep. A lot of these comments are delusional
Turned it down 😂🤣
Daniel Jones is a top 10 QB
Not even top 30
But JJ McCarthy would've made everything different right? Stfu
If you have two quarterbacks, you have none.
Thats the most ridiculous thing and even when Commanders (Redskins then) took RGIII and Kirk in the same draft, people had the same look that everyone else had when the Falcons drafted Penix after signing Cousins to that contract.