AUSTRO ASIATIC: VIETNAMESE & KHMER

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2022
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    Both Vietnamese and Khmer are Austro-Asiatic languages. Both belong to the same language family, although in different branches.
    Vietnamese has 6 tones, while Khmer doesn't. Instead of tones, Khmer has developed "register", this means that in this case the pronunciation of vowels changes depending on the preceding consonant.
    The Khmer language uses the Khmer script, while the Vietnamese language uses the Latin script.
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Комментарии • 83

  • @franco912
    @franco912 Год назад +217

    I'm khmer we have more in common with Thai and Lao because of the Khmer empire influences. Vietnam has more in common with China because they were ruled by Chinese dynasties ( Bắc thuộc) then they gained their independence. Vietnam land was smaller in the past they took the land of the Champa kingdom these lasts ones are related to Malaysians. Vietnamese used a script based on Chinese characters ( chữ nôm ), the use of the latin alphabet comes from the french colonizers.

  • @avtandil
    @avtandil Год назад +128

    For the first time I've seen Khmer language written in Latin script with Vietnamese orthography. Very interesting!

  • @yorgunsamuray
    @yorgunsamuray Год назад +109

    Numbers are really close until 6 or so. Interestingly there seems to be a 5+1 system in Khmer.

  • @user-qc3zg2zu1g
    @user-qc3zg2zu1g Год назад +193

    Khmer even though is a non-tonal language, it DOES sound like it has some kind of tones

    • @landofthehazymist
      @landofthehazymist Год назад +30

      japanese kinda like that too

    • @nomnaday
      @nomnaday Год назад +82

      There is paper right now that is claiming the Phnom Penh dialect of Khmer going through tonogenesis (developing tones).

    • @sauvagesauvage1869
      @sauvagesauvage1869 Год назад +7

      @@landofthehazymist and italian tbh

    • @kareepan3382
      @kareepan3382 Год назад +34

      @@landofthehazymist Japanese is a pitch-accent language that's probably why

    • @aosadoifbaiosdfna
      @aosadoifbaiosdfna Год назад +3

      Arabic does too.

  • @DonTornado
    @DonTornado Год назад +29

    Thank you for talking about the Khmer language! It doesn’t get enough attention.

  • @ibi6262
    @ibi6262 Год назад +61

    I'd suggest Mon instead of Vietnamese, but even then, it isn't that similar to Khmer. Austroasiatic is truly a unique family.

    • @nomnaday
      @nomnaday Год назад +22

      Yeah, compare Mon and Khmer, while Vietnamese should be compared to Mường.

    • @dankmemewannabe7692
      @dankmemewannabe7692 Год назад +14

      @@nomnaday I would be soooo happy to see other Vietic representation on this channel

  • @GreenFoxLuama
    @GreenFoxLuama Год назад +164

    A little suggestion: I think you should use the Hanoian or Saigonese accent as samples for the Vietnamese language because they are the two most spoken accents. The guy reading the Bible text has a rural-Central Vietnamese accent and it's hard to make out what he said if there weren't subtitles

    • @aosadoifbaiosdfna
      @aosadoifbaiosdfna Год назад +7

      Maybe you can be a volunteer and send some recordings of the standard dialects?

    • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
      @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 Год назад +17

      No need to discriminate against different accents or dialects.

    • @JH-ty2cs
      @JH-ty2cs Год назад +84

      ​@@nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 it's not really accent discrimination; the dialect of the speaker in the video is genuinely quite difficult to understand, even for vietnamese speakers. getting someone with a Vinh/Ha Tinh accent to represent vietnamese is like getting someone with a glaswegian accent to represent english - while not 'incorrect', it's an odd choice.

    • @nursyafizah5981
      @nursyafizah5981 Год назад +8

      @@nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 How is that discrimination?

    • @Mrityormokshiya
      @Mrityormokshiya Год назад +23

      The sample has rural dialect because the missionaries target rural people for Christian conversion

  • @Fusser1812
    @Fusser1812 Год назад +12

    One thing I want to say ,as a native khmer, is that why don't you just use the phrase "The Americans are coming to drop bombs at us and I am getting sick of them!" Which was common during the Vietnam War and Khme civil war times

  • @sunduncan1151
    @sunduncan1151 Год назад +32

    Numbers 6-9 in Vietnamese are close to Mon rather than Khmer:
    Proto-Vietic - Vietnamese - Mon
    6 *p-ruːʔ - sáu - kərao
    7 *pəs - bảy - həpɔh
    8 *saːmʔ - tám - həcam
    9 *ciːnʔ - chín - həcit

  • @sethlangston181
    @sethlangston181 Год назад +21

    Interesting how the Khmer numerical system is base-5 rather than base-10.

  • @david_oliveira71
    @david_oliveira71 Год назад +7

    Yes, Khmer! Thank you - Au kun

  • @aosadoifbaiosdfna
    @aosadoifbaiosdfna Год назад +17

    Vietnamese is an Austroasiatic language spoken primarily by the Vietnamese (Kinh) people. It is natively spoken in Vietnam and parts of the region of Guangxi in China, officially spoken in Vietnam, and a recognized minority language in the Czech Republic.
    Khmer is an Austroasiatic language spoken primarily by the Khmer people. It is natively spoken in Cambodia, the regions of An Giang, Bà Rịa-Vũng Tàu, Bạc Liêu, Bến Tre, Bình Dương, Bình Phước, Cà Mau, Cần Thơ, Đồng Nai, Đồng Tháp, Hậu Giang, Hồ Chí Minh, Kiên Giang, Long An, Sóc Trăng, Tây Ninh, Tiền Giang, Trà Vinh, and Vĩnh Long in Vietnam, the regions of Buriram, Chachoengsao, Chanthaburi, Chonburi, Prachin Buri Rayong, Sa Kaeo, Sisaket, Surin, and Trat in Thailand, officially spoken in Cambodia, and a recognized minority language in Thailand and Vietnam.

  • @anthonymanderson7671
    @anthonymanderson7671 Год назад +9

    I'm really interested in learning about the Khmer language

  • @NickyDIY101
    @NickyDIY101 Год назад +28

    Totally difference as vietnamese share vocab with Chinese while Khmer share vocabs with Thai.

    • @denvor4454
      @denvor4454 Год назад +41

      And Thais do not understand either of these languages. Stop talking nonsense.

  • @ravymna8269
    @ravymna8269 Год назад +17

    I'm Cambodian🇰🇭

  • @ingvardruid7997
    @ingvardruid7997 Год назад +5

    Can be next video- Thai and Lao languages

  • @denvor4454
    @denvor4454 Год назад +11

    They both belong to Khmero-Vietic brunch but Vietnamese is more closer to Katuic (Sidwell 2018) meanwhile Mon language from Myanmar is more distant than these 3.

    • @ohkeydan6357
      @ohkeydan6357 Год назад +9

      I think Khmer and Vietnamese under different branch because cant find about khmero-vietic?

  • @Garfield_Minecraft
    @Garfield_Minecraft Год назад +15

    Not similar
    Thai sounds more likekhmer than vietnam
    Example อาหาร ahaan អាហារ ahaa food
    สวรรค์ sawan ស្ថានប្រមសុខ satanboromsuk(สถานบรมสุขsatanbaromsuk) សួគ៌ suak heaven
    And number
    30 สามสิบ សាមសិប saamsib same
    30-1000000 is similar
    In khmer we have only 6 number
    0 1 2 3 4 5
    6 is 5+1 we say 5 1
    But 10 we say dop
    20 is mpai
    30 samsib

  • @user-km3rm9zv4u
    @user-km3rm9zv4u Год назад +28

    베트남어와 크메르어와 같은 오스트로아시아어족임에도 문자와 어휘가 완전히 다릅니다.
    특히 베트남어도 중국어처럼 성조를 사용하는데다 어휘 면에서 한자어가 들어있다는 점

  • @DanielgtaLaw
    @DanielgtaLaw Год назад +11

    Vietnam and Cambodia are neighbors, so the two languages sound similar to each other.

    • @titan9259
      @titan9259 Год назад +13

      Cambodia and Thailand are also neighbors but the languages sound less alike.

  • @80sRiku
    @80sRiku Год назад +8

    Perhaps you can put the Southern Vietnamese accent in the Mekong Delta region is a bit closer to the Khmer language instead putting the Central Vietnamese or Northern Vietnamese accent

  • @champaputih4568
    @champaputih4568 2 месяца назад +1

    The most remarkable
    New Year English
    Chnam Thmey Khmer
    Nam Moi Vietnam

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi Год назад +1

    cool.

  • @dalubwikaan161
    @dalubwikaan161 Год назад +17

    Reading Cambodian is like level 100000

  • @andynguyenofanthem6358
    @andynguyenofanthem6358 Год назад +3

    Please make a video compare Vietnamese with Mon

  • @ramazancdre8303
    @ramazancdre8303 Год назад +11

    As I expected vietnamese is closer to khmer than thai.

  • @showtime3314
    @showtime3314 Год назад

    Sometimes when I hear these languages I get mixed up in terms of which is which.

  • @Stevenator1210
    @Stevenator1210 Год назад +19

    I find Central Vietnamese accent so hard to understand. The South and North is much easier for me to understand but also, I find it interesting how close Vietnamese and Khmer are by their similar vocabulary

    • @nomnaday
      @nomnaday Год назад +5

      The numbers were in Northern accent, but Our Father was in a Central accent.

    • @Stevenator1210
      @Stevenator1210 Год назад +2

      @@nomnaday aha, bingo! Thanks for correcting me on the Central dialect

  • @ayg6694
    @ayg6694 Год назад +10

    I love to Vietnamese language!

  • @user-gg1re3yp2i
    @user-gg1re3yp2i Год назад +3

    អរគុណអ្នកខ្លាំណាស់ដែលបានបង្ហាញអត្តសញ្ញាណប្រទេសរបស់ខ្ញុំ

  • @ka-52alligator48
    @ka-52alligator48 Год назад +1

    Also Santhali language.

  • @connormurphy683
    @connormurphy683 11 месяцев назад +10

    Khmer sounds similar to Thai; Vietnamese sounds unique but still sorta similar to Cantonese

  • @linainverse3472
    @linainverse3472 Год назад +4

    Кхмерский по звучанию похож на тайский

  • @olciairafcio
    @olciairafcio Год назад +2

    Briish dialects now

  • @user-gg1re3yp2i
    @user-gg1re3yp2i Год назад

    និងភាសារបស់ខ្ញុំ

  • @HaHa-tn9md
    @HaHa-tn9md Год назад +12

    tieng khmer khong giong tieng viet

  • @nomnaday
    @nomnaday Год назад +4

    bốn gang

  • @computeruser75
    @computeruser75 Год назад +1

    I believe only a few words are the same in Vietnamese and Khmer such as the word for "mango"

  • @leonardoschiavelli6478
    @leonardoschiavelli6478 Год назад

    If you want to Pre-vail speaking a Pro-fitable language like Khmer, you must Pre-pare first before Pro-mising a Pro-fessional usage of it. Therefore, a Pro-perty of yours Khmer will turn Pro-ductively and it won't be Pre-judicial for you anymore.

  • @dicon7173
    @dicon7173 Год назад

    VietNam vs China

  • @lisastarlove7429
    @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +2

    Lay cha chung con o tren troi chung con nguyen danh cha ca sang

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +1

      Nuoc cha tri den y cha the duoi dat cung nhu tren troi

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +2

      Xin cha cho chung con hom nay luong thuc hang ngay

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +2

      Va tha no chung con nhu chung con cung tha ke co no chung con

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +2

      Xin cho de chung con sa chuoc cam do nhung cuu chung con cho kho su du Amen

  • @lisastarlove7429
    @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +3

    Aom pre baida yong kniom
    Dai kung nu stan boro masok oi
    Som som dang pre baromai
    Oi monuh lok skual
    Pre niem pre ong

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +1

      Som oi pre riet pre ong ban mok dol
      Som oi pre haru tai roboh pre ong
      Bam sonrach nau lo pen dai
      Do chu nau stan boro mask dai

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +1

      Som pro tien aha dai yong
      Kniom trau ka nu tengai negah ni

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +1

      Som ot toi yong kniom
      Do chi yong kniom ot to oi
      Oh nek dai bam pro prut
      Kho nung yong kniom

    • @lisastarlove7429
      @lisastarlove7429 Год назад +1

      Som kum bon doi
      Chan ka lo buong toi
      Tai som rum do yong kniom
      Oi ruat mia kom mike Amen

  • @feliperodriguesclaffnne8151
    @feliperodriguesclaffnne8151 Год назад +18

    These languages ​​are very similar.

  • @Tcbkami
    @Tcbkami Год назад +3

    it sounds more cantonese than khmer

  • @dk.magic.mobile108
    @dk.magic.mobile108 Год назад +5

    Original southern vietnamese are Khmer people

  • @naurakii
    @naurakii Год назад +1

    Goofy ahh country called their own language in their languages🧐