Debate Follow-Up - Rem is Wrong... Plus He's White

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • Date streamed: 5/21/2020
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Start
    01:37 - Culture Tied to Land
    04:14 - Rem's Knowledge Level
    07:58 - Land Ownership
    15:11 - How to Resolve Disputes
    17:50 - Minorities vs Majorities
    23:09 - Autonomy and Democracy
    29:43 - Longterm Harm of Pipeline
    37:39 - Change of Culture
    44:30 - Reimbursign Indigenous Peoples
    47:17 - Destiny's Rhetoric
    52:14 - State Violence
    01:03:09 - Doing vs Allowing Harm
    01:11:20 - Conclusion... Plus you're White
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Комментарии • 764

  • @halhabib2335
    @halhabib2335 4 года назад +746

    Destiny took Vaush's video in this debate

    • @Josh-et4ki
      @Josh-et4ki 4 года назад +34

      Hal Habib *Vaush’s Vidya

    • @ataridc
      @ataridc 4 года назад +13

      I mean if you want Destiny to do content with Vaush he literally has to since Vaush is banned on Twitch

    • @reloadeddice8654
      @reloadeddice8654 4 года назад +12

      This video was Vaush's culture too. Clearly Destiny just wants to destroy Vaush's culture.

    • @Dawid-wc8sb
      @Dawid-wc8sb 4 года назад +1

      @@ataridc whys he banned?

    • @ZacharyEntenman
      @ZacharyEntenman 3 года назад +1

      @@Dawid-wc8sb He got mad at watching some Zionist propaganda and said some inflammatory stuff.

  • @QosmicVoid
    @QosmicVoid 4 года назад +392

    Vaush colonized Destinys RUclips Channel in this debate

    • @m1lkbags
      @m1lkbags 3 года назад +3

      this is easily the funniest comment on this video why do you only have 200 likes

    • @QosmicVoid
      @QosmicVoid 3 года назад

      @Tywin Lannister No idea why you felt the need to be like that, but stay mad I guess

    • @QosmicVoid
      @QosmicVoid 3 года назад +3

      @Tywin LannisterDude I just thought it would be funny to make a Debate joke about colonization since the footage used here was Vaush's. You clearly just want to start shit and its kind of pathetic.

    • @QosmicVoid
      @QosmicVoid 3 года назад

      @@Osiris2134 Soviets bad

  • @bravovince3070
    @bravovince3070 4 года назад +769

    Vaush was just vibing in this debate

    • @MrPopoopopopopo
      @MrPopoopopopopo 4 года назад +109

      plus hes white

    • @maggiepaul5911
      @maggiepaul5911 4 года назад +3

      @@MrPopoopopopopo 😂😂😂🧐

    • @bokajon
      @bokajon 4 года назад +4

      "Hey, it's me. I haven't even watched the whole video but I'm still summarizing it because I want to get recognition from random RUclips-watchers. Fuck my life."

    • @larrytipson4585
      @larrytipson4585 4 года назад +39

      @@bokajon You do know these videos come from live streams, right? He could have seen it live.

    • @bravovince3070
      @bravovince3070 4 года назад +44

      @@bokajon bro what are you genuinely ok

  • @Tocinos
    @Tocinos 4 года назад +596

    Destiny looks like Irishladdie in this debate... plus he is white

    • @Harrison1875
      @Harrison1875 4 года назад +24

      destiny is actually half mexican. nice try though, whitey.

    • @Tocinos
      @Tocinos 4 года назад +70

      @@Harrison1875 cuba = mexico Pepega

    • @Tocinos
      @Tocinos 4 года назад +23

      @@Harrison1875 no pfp no opinion

    • @askliam4266
      @askliam4266 4 года назад +1

      @@Vearotic he's half red but, but okay bro

    • @ksilva2848
      @ksilva2848 4 года назад

      @@askliam4266 he is half yellow but ok bro

  • @gamikhan9087
    @gamikhan9087 4 года назад +506

    Destiny, Vaush and Rem were white in this debate.

    • @ksilva2848
      @ksilva2848 4 года назад +8

      Fucking true

    • @beerguybrian
      @beerguybrian 4 года назад +1

      And it was so

    • @manuelantuna26
      @manuelantuna26 4 года назад +1

      Yeah.. but only one of those three is a "Gusano"

    • @beerguybrian
      @beerguybrian 4 года назад

      @Manuel Antuña check out the big brain on Brad!

    • @ksilva2848
      @ksilva2848 4 года назад

      @@manuelantuna26 just like only one of them is "Polish". Bruh what?

  • @aploticmonk7289
    @aploticmonk7289 4 года назад +392

    Vaush was a good moderator, I can’t believe rem was complaining about how Vaush didn’t moderate when vaush was technically on his side too.

    • @Eden-LikeTheGarden-Rama
      @Eden-LikeTheGarden-Rama 4 года назад +124

      I'd call him more of a mediator than a moderator. He was mostly just trying to steelman Rem cos Rem isn't a debater and is usually pretty shit at getting a point across

    • @faust3530
      @faust3530 4 года назад +34

      @@Eden-LikeTheGarden-Rama yeah lmao, was hilarious how much easier vaush could clearly make arguments in rems favour

    • @spicylemon6255
      @spicylemon6255 4 года назад +16

      Faust And Rem still complained that Vaush was somehow against him.

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx 4 года назад +2

      He was Hoping for the dog-pile. Typical.

    • @an6el793
      @an6el793 3 года назад +8

      vaush wasn't a moderator, he was literally holding rems hand the whole time

  • @cleverpotato348
    @cleverpotato348 4 года назад +399

    Destiny’s editor lost to Vaush’s editor in this debate

  • @quohime1824
    @quohime1824 4 года назад +318

    Destiny provided advertisement for Vaush's stream in this debate

    • @TheBadAssNcrRanger
      @TheBadAssNcrRanger 4 года назад +56

      Extremely based advertisement

    • @joseaugustogoulart
      @joseaugustogoulart 4 года назад +8

      @@TheBadAssNcrRanger Destiny doing more praxis than BoB

    • @63Limar
      @63Limar 4 года назад

      Advertisement? He played like shit, shame

    • @unknown-vo3di
      @unknown-vo3di 4 года назад +2

      @@63Limar bruh I never played terraria but if u right then what a noob lel.

    • @vallewabbel9690
      @vallewabbel9690 4 года назад +1

      @@63Limar he makes lit political commentary tho

  • @brandonden795
    @brandonden795 4 года назад +239

    Destiny and Vaush have a strange relationship

    • @captaindistracted1808
      @captaindistracted1808 4 года назад +75

      Their relationship reminds me of my divorced parents relationship

    • @dierdoge591
      @dierdoge591 4 года назад +40

      Its cute

    • @PurpleOkayTurtle
      @PurpleOkayTurtle 4 года назад +6

      Ivan Ivanovich Rasputin no he wouldn’t. Because that would be gay. And my pastor says that’s bad

    • @MadJackChurchill1312
      @MadJackChurchill1312 4 года назад +47

      Tossa4u Your pastor isn’t cool. Plus, he’s white.

    • @ler6118
      @ler6118 4 года назад +17

      @@ivanivanovichrasputin3098 I've actually donated to Vaush just to have him answer on whether or not he'd fuck Destiny. He said he wouldn't, but I think he called him cute.

  • @brotherbrod
    @brotherbrod 4 года назад +139

    we love moderator Vaush

  • @angry340
    @angry340 4 года назад +353

    Destiny was Cuban in this debate

    • @angry340
      @angry340 4 года назад +1

      @Communist Alpha Male Banging Capitalist Beta males you're irksome

    • @PacifistBetaFish
      @PacifistBetaFish 4 года назад +4

      Esteban "el gusanito" Benoblito

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx 4 года назад +1

      Sorry, doesnt work. The likes are all the angry white boys desperate for a comeback LOL.

  • @faust3530
    @faust3530 4 года назад +240

    I legitimately love seeing destiny and vaush getting along. They're incredible conversation partners and really have fantastic back and forths over whatever they're discussing.

    • @brookdecost940
      @brookdecost940 4 года назад +51

      I agree, but it appears that destiny goes overboard in attempt to show the distinction between his and their position when in reality the distinction is far more subtle.

    • @tiagomd3811
      @tiagomd3811 4 года назад +22

      Vaush is destiny's son. Their destiny is to be together in a incest gay relationship.

    • @johnny3868
      @johnny3868 4 года назад +1

      nice pfp x2

    • @Jotakumon
      @Jotakumon 4 года назад +9

      plus, they're both white

    • @Siberius-
      @Siberius- 4 года назад +3

      @@wiptide - I'm stating the obvious here, but that is subjective. 👌👌

  • @BK557SC
    @BK557SC 4 года назад +153

    Ahh yes a video without league gameplay

  • @thelax5311
    @thelax5311 4 года назад +56

    Something tells me this discussion would’ve gone over a lot better if it was just Destiny and Vaush.

  • @Jacob-ch8qj
    @Jacob-ch8qj 4 года назад +106

    Vaush shoved his pipeline into destiny's native land in this debate

    • @develote7670
      @develote7670 4 года назад +11

      "laying pipe" was the phrase Vaush used in the debate

    • @joeludemann
      @joeludemann 3 года назад

      @@develote7670 destiny beat that in rems last debate when he said "if we wanted to we could shit down the throat of every native"

  • @blocherxk6618
    @blocherxk6618 4 года назад +70

    I love that after the debate, rem keeps saying that vaush was against him or that he fail at defending his points.

    • @ghosty0612
      @ghosty0612 4 года назад +11

      Vaush was intrusivly and criticly questioning destiny all the time wtf?

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx 4 года назад +2

      Clearly he was butt hurt.

    • @maxmustermann9058
      @maxmustermann9058 4 года назад +14

      Rem did video on how vaush is a bad faith actor that needs to be taken down, honestly vaush had no reason to be nearly as amicable as he was.

  • @allinwatts4670
    @allinwatts4670 4 года назад +256

    Can we start a petition to get Vaush unbanned from twitch? I want to see him moderate more of Destiny’s debates

    • @younggotti8195
      @younggotti8195 4 года назад +8

      No...he literally sucks off destiny, that's not what a moderator should do

    • @allinwatts4670
      @allinwatts4670 4 года назад +130

      “Steelmanning both sides = sucking off”

    • @Jay-zt1pq
      @Jay-zt1pq 4 года назад +85

      @@allinwatts4670 Generating fruitful discussion? Idk sounds pretty GAY dude /s

    • @samuelmorkbednarzkepler
      @samuelmorkbednarzkepler 4 года назад +57

      @@younggotti8195 Nice fan fiction. In reality though, he spent most of the time defending Rem and challenging Destiny.

    • @razzle_dazzle
      @razzle_dazzle 4 года назад +27

      Having him be able to go on Rajj and other debate panels would be awesome.

  • @andrewcrisp1037
    @andrewcrisp1037 4 года назад +23

    Imagine respecting property rights while calling indigenous people squatters on their own land.

  • @NexusCapital
    @NexusCapital 4 года назад +80

    "reservations are extremely welcoming to all people"
    Rem has never visited a reservation.

    • @GKJusticar55
      @GKJusticar55 4 года назад +3

      I think it's the perfect moment to insert the Curb your Enthusiasm theme.

    • @apriljk6557
      @apriljk6557 4 года назад +12

      Neither have you

  • @highprogressive
    @highprogressive 4 года назад +23

    Vaush: "wait you're Canadian?"
    Rem: "yeah I'm Canadian"
    Vaush: "Fuck... That sucks"
    OMEGALUL

  • @confrontingcapital5080
    @confrontingcapital5080 4 года назад +56

    Destiny uploaded a Vaush debate in this debate

  • @barkwhoop8052
    @barkwhoop8052 4 года назад +40

    “I’m not trigger- “NOOOOONONO IVE BEEN WATCHING YOU LONG ENOUGH okay buddy”
    Let’s all come together as a family and watch our dads fight bois

  • @kingz7151
    @kingz7151 4 года назад +46

    I love how Vaush just walks around on Terraria polishing the terrain on his world rather than just trying to speed run the bosses asap like I do lol, I can imagine that probably gives him a lot more from the game.

    • @a2genuch161
      @a2genuch161 4 года назад +8

      Haha you're probably the only one commenting on the gameplay

    • @mayman4255
      @mayman4255 4 года назад +4

      I love making the terrain a straight line throughout the entire world, it feels good not to have to use a spacebar.

    • @onlyeveryone2253
      @onlyeveryone2253 4 года назад

      @@mayman4255 why not just build a sky road?

    • @revolioclockbergjr.6780
      @revolioclockbergjr.6780 4 года назад

      Mayman this hurt my soul

  • @NexusCapital
    @NexusCapital 4 года назад +92

    These left vs further left debates are much better than left vs right

    • @MrKosobi
      @MrKosobi 4 года назад +9

      So wrong.

    • @defb4dishonor211
      @defb4dishonor211 4 года назад +30

      So right

    • @bob-jones
      @bob-jones 4 года назад +1

      Brave and wrong, plus you’re white

    • @fuckayou3209
      @fuckayou3209 4 года назад +13

      Content wise, usually left vs right. Intellectually, left vs further left usually.

    • @sycophant8470
      @sycophant8470 4 года назад

      @@fuckayou3209 dankula vs vaush was NOT content, right vs left can be content and it can also be cancer, while left vs left can be both content and informational

  • @MagicBrianTricks
    @MagicBrianTricks 4 года назад +96

    Destiny looks like Vaush in this debate.

  • @maggiepaul5911
    @maggiepaul5911 4 года назад +56

    I was hella confused for a second.
    Edit:
    Plus he's white.

  • @fazma1076
    @fazma1076 4 года назад +155

    Destiny posted Vaush’s content in this debate

    • @towel-cat
      @towel-cat 4 года назад +8

      @@JonBall44 Well, it was hosted exclusively on Vaush's channel, so it's his. But I highly doubt Vaush would care anyway. Idk why he would

    • @NNOTM
      @NNOTM 4 года назад +7

      @@towel-cat If you look at the description you'll find out that Vaush explicitly allowed Destiny('s editors) to use his content, so yeah

    • @xXWorldgamefunXx
      @xXWorldgamefunXx 4 года назад +1

      @@towel-cat Vaush gave the permission he said it in his last stream

  • @poyokirby
    @poyokirby 4 года назад +65

    imagine thinking you're woke but also being white OMEGALUL

  • @studi0651
    @studi0651 4 года назад +132

    Man, this makes me want Twitch to unban Vaush and get on streams like the Rajj Royale or the Scuffed Podcast and interact with other Twitch streamers. I feel like he can bring insightful commentary to a larger audience.

    • @tehking111
      @tehking111 4 года назад +2

      Why did he get banned?

    • @marcosa2000
      @marcosa2000 4 года назад +17

      @@tehking111 He had an extremist anti-zionist take that twitch seemed to dislike. It was hyperbole but alas

    • @epicgamer-ur1wg
      @epicgamer-ur1wg 4 года назад +9

      Confident Lime said that israel should be bombed
      I assume it was reported and twitch interpreted as anti semitism

    • @tehking111
      @tehking111 4 года назад +2

      @@marcosa2000 wait and that got him insta banned with no warnings? Or did he have warnings before that?

    • @marcosa2000
      @marcosa2000 4 года назад +3

      @@tehking111 It was pretty extreme. He said Israel should be bombed. To the best of my knowledge there was no other warning, but I may be wrong

  • @AntiPersonnelRescueAxe
    @AntiPersonnelRescueAxe 4 года назад +47

    Why does Rem sound like Vaush's impression of Sargon...

    • @vinsonharwell7541
      @vinsonharwell7541 4 года назад +12

      @@averywealthyman4194 his scottish accent is spot on tho lol

  • @Arimil1234512345
    @Arimil1234512345 4 года назад +53

    2:33 Lmao. That face says it all.

    • @Harrison1875
      @Harrison1875 4 года назад +18

      Should've been in the thumbnail.

  • @Jack-fs1jy
    @Jack-fs1jy 4 года назад +57

    Rem was forgotten in this debate.

  • @Blessica
    @Blessica 4 года назад +18

    I'm glad my Dads are talking again

  • @PressForEarth00
    @PressForEarth00 4 года назад +19

    Really happy to see destiny and vaush discussing again. I really enjoy how both of them think and analyze problems. So both of them together you really get to see them digging in and fleshing out their ideas with each other and asking questions. Really great stuff. Id love to see more of the 2 of you for sure

  • @Matizor
    @Matizor 4 года назад +35

    Destiny appropriated Vaush's VOD in this debate, plus he's white

  • @Septiviumexe
    @Septiviumexe 4 года назад +11

    Rem tried to debate destiny while destiny was debating vaush in this debate

  • @parsifal2299
    @parsifal2299 4 года назад +5

    10:33
    Vaush: *makes a point*
    Rem: right?
    DestinY: Shut the fuck up rem
    Rem: sorry :/
    Why'd I found this so fuckin funny

  • @freedom_mayor
    @freedom_mayor 4 года назад +8

    when you wake up feeling kind of weird, check your youtube, and now you're a vaush fan.

  • @fuckayou3209
    @fuckayou3209 4 года назад +16

    This is literally the vaush vs destiny arch but with rem.

    • @werewolf4358
      @werewolf4358 4 года назад +4

      And a lot friendlier between Vaush and Destiny.

  • @kaildraconis
    @kaildraconis 4 года назад +71

    I never expected a video where Destiny is actually talking to Vaush in good faith. We found REMs best use.

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx 4 года назад +3

      Sort of what happens when you're moderating and not taking a dipshit stance.

    • @Mr.ClimateChange
      @Mr.ClimateChange 4 года назад +6

      Destiny and Vaush's irl discussion was pretty good faith from what I remember too.

    • @kaildraconis
      @kaildraconis 4 года назад

      @@Mr.ClimateChange how long ago was that? The last 2 or 3 i remember were batshit crazy

  • @kk8490
    @kk8490 4 года назад +15

    Vaush saved Rem in this debate

  • @iheartcomps
    @iheartcomps 4 года назад +42

    Rem is the human version of a Starbucks soy latte

  • @ChaseFace
    @ChaseFace 3 года назад +5

    “He’s going to attack me!”
    *Immediately act defensive and hostile the moment Destiny opens his mouth*

    • @GigaChadh976
      @GigaChadh976 2 года назад +2

      Damn chase, can’t go ONE SECOND without talking about the anime.

  • @DapzLive
    @DapzLive 3 года назад +6

    9:15 Destiny got so worked up he said 'Irreagrdless'

  • @kamiljaroszewski6356
    @kamiljaroszewski6356 4 года назад +24

    Vaush was a translator in this debate

  • @catzagoon3516
    @catzagoon3516 4 года назад +35

    He actually just posted Vaush's video lmaooo

    • @Siberius-
      @Siberius- 4 года назад +1

      His editor did*
      With Vaush's permission.
      Destiny seems to just have his editors do pretty much what ever.

  • @potatoid-0158
    @potatoid-0158 4 года назад +13

    Vaush: "Can I moderate?"
    *gets involved in the debate*

    • @BlakeZeb
      @BlakeZeb 4 года назад +3

      potatoid - 01 yeah, it was more like mediating.

    • @scarletcrusade77
      @scarletcrusade77 3 года назад +1

      @@BlakeZeb Nah it was more like carrying Rem

  • @axlglenn2156
    @axlglenn2156 4 года назад +15

    So Rem thought Vaush moderated poorly? Vaush clearly stepped in when he thought Rem and Destiny were talking past eachother...

    • @BDKoala
      @BDKoala 4 года назад +11

      More like Vaush stepped in when Rem was about to be steamrolled. It was merciful.

    • @cureabees9440
      @cureabees9440 4 года назад +1

      @@password460 I think he was doing it unintentionally most of the time. Also, the fact that Vaush was mostly arguing against Destiny is enough to make Rem's claims unwarranted.

  • @imafr11
    @imafr11 4 года назад +26

    Rem was ignored in this debate

  • @samsayssamstuff6705
    @samsayssamstuff6705 4 года назад +14

    Rem watched Vaush and Destiny make out at a high school party in this debate

  • @skeltor1446
    @skeltor1446 4 года назад +5

    I always can't tell whether people are trolling or not in Destiny's comment section. Especially the one in this debate.

  • @Saethiaal666
    @Saethiaal666 4 года назад +3

    Love seeing vaush back

  • @vexrosenberg7386
    @vexrosenberg7386 4 года назад +3

    oh boy cant wait to watch a vaush upload on destinies channel

  • @tehking111
    @tehking111 4 года назад +11

    Rem has this unique ability to make me not care about every topic he brings up.

  • @roryonstrike
    @roryonstrike 4 года назад +9

    Vaush didn't survive the blood moon in this debate

  • @EstelleFGC
    @EstelleFGC 4 года назад +4

    interesting how destiny excludes the 30 minute discussion vaush and rem had before destiny joined. I feel that context was needed

  • @shiloh2691
    @shiloh2691 4 года назад +3

    Ya know hearing Vaush in this made me like him a good bit more, good shit

  • @figgles
    @figgles 4 года назад +2

    AMAZIN title

  • @afrokid3890
    @afrokid3890 4 года назад +4

    The weird thing is I actually think Destiny doesn’t notice his debate tactics.

  • @bubblybuttons3042
    @bubblybuttons3042 4 года назад +1

    Damn, I already watched this on Vaush, I was hoping this was him discussing his discussion with Rem and Vaush

  • @The_passiveObserver
    @The_passiveObserver 4 года назад +20

    Vaush Destiny'd in this white rem

  • @thomasjames5630
    @thomasjames5630 4 года назад +43

    Destiny got cuter in this debate

  • @---lv4oz
    @---lv4oz 3 года назад +15

    "Plus you're white"
    54:45
    55:00
    57:07
    57:47
    58:58
    1:11:42

    • @mayman4255
      @mayman4255 3 года назад +3

      I can feel your whiteness from my screen

  • @Kyle_Schaff
    @Kyle_Schaff 4 года назад +18

    Does Rem think that these Natives found some land and just sat on it for a millennia and that’s the largest extent of their culture? Does food, art, clothing, navigation, music, mythologies/legends, ceremonies, diplomatic traditions, and their traditional laws not count? Or were those just minuscule contributions?
    Also, I reject this idea that we should respect land ownership based on who has traditional claims. If the Jews and Muslims in Israel and Palestine want to fight over that shit, that’s their business. But that’s a toxic shitshow I don’t feel comfortable emulating.

    • @Kyle_Schaff
      @Kyle_Schaff 4 года назад +2

      @@homelessengineer5498
      I hope you have a good idea of different Native tribes' values and cultures because I will grill the fuck out of you if you don't. Rem doesn't talk about it because he's clueless, but one of the most important cultural aspects of the Iroquois's tribes is their unification myth. From that myth, we learn that things like their composing tribes' different headbands, beaded jewelry as symbolic gifts used for diplomacy, and their traditions passed down from the Great Law of Peace play integral parts in their culture. And that's just a small part of the importance of their unification myth. Sure, the land has meaning as it does to any group of people, but pretending that a people's culture is at all contingent on the exact land they hold like Rem believes is ridiculous.
      I wrote like three paragraphs arguing against your Chinese conquest bit before realizing I was writing something you probably wouldn't read and, more importantly, it was getting off-track from what is relevant. If you really want to have that argument, I'll rewrite it.
      And your last paragraph is where I can tell that you don't really care about the conversation. Destiny literally said the opposite in the last debate. He said he wants to get rid of the reservation system and bring Natives fully into the fold of United States citizens and take care of them as we do for every other citizen. I don't know if you're aware, but the reservation system is fucking awful. Native's usage of illicit drugs is at the highest rate of any other race in the country, the rate of binge-drinking is 23.5%, tobacco smoking is at 40.1%, all the associated health risks from smoking, drinking, and hard drugs are at much greater rates (especially on reservations where their healthcare system is horrendous), mental health problems are flatly untreated, suicide rates are incredibly high (acutely in the 10-34 age category), they don't even have proper fucking home addresses, the poverty rate on reservations is more than twice that of the national average (28.4% vs. 12.7%), etc. Destiny said that he wants to bring Natives in to help address these problems that afflict their communities. He believes in our ideal of being a cultural melting pot, said he has love for all people, and doesn't think that the system of reservations is working for anyone here.

  • @IborAio
    @IborAio 4 года назад +7

    Mom and dad didn't fight in this debate :)

  • @umor9014
    @umor9014 4 года назад +2

    Rem did not include slavery or discrimination against outsiders in his elaborate "noble savages" fanfic. He also read 10 books and still did not know that 2:10 "Micmac" is considered a discriminatory term by the group of people he supposedly knows the most about lol

  • @BastianSchwarz
    @BastianSchwarz 4 года назад +2

    Love the title

  • @cran4356
    @cran4356 4 года назад +7

    I thought I clicked on a vaush video for a sec

  • @Lupostehgreat
    @Lupostehgreat 4 года назад +4

    These 3 need to do a damn talk show. It would be golden.

  • @DaRkJoKeR77
    @DaRkJoKeR77 4 года назад +22

    How did this "you're so white" meme start?

    • @The_passiveObserver
      @The_passiveObserver 4 года назад +70

      Don't care didn't ask , plus your white

    • @XelnasTV
      @XelnasTV 4 года назад +4

      Basically Biden said "all my supporters are black so destiny is memeing that Biden haters are white"

    • @IborAio
      @IborAio 4 года назад +13

      It evolved from the "don't care, didn't ask" meme. Probably in response to a "don't care, didn't ask plus you're black" meme from 4chan

  • @jacoba5814
    @jacoba5814 3 года назад +1

    Holy hell, I’m rewatching the debates and rem is the most emotionally exhausting dude.

  • @TravellingMark5454
    @TravellingMark5454 4 года назад +2

    Waiting for that super mega jazz

  • @KommentarSpaltenKrieger
    @KommentarSpaltenKrieger 4 года назад +1

    the way in which Destiny dismissed the hyperbolic irrealistic hypothetical Rem posed at the beginning of the conversation makes me question if he should be taken seriously anymore. Like, holy fucc, he did this literally 100,000 times in 100,000 different debates. It is a rather aggressive, but effective way of testing whether a statement or moral prescription generally holds water.

  • @forbiddensongs
    @forbiddensongs 4 года назад +1

    this was dope

  • @vitalepitts
    @vitalepitts 4 года назад

    loving this content

  • @TheIceRange
    @TheIceRange 4 года назад +1

    21:05 Destiny brings up a good point. In sociology, we tend to lean away from using words like minority and majority and use the terms, subordinate groups, and dominant groups.

    • @Coryameta
      @Coryameta 4 года назад

      While I know there are many reason sociologists frame statements in that manner, I think one of the simple ones is because they understand that both minority and majority bring about bias implicitly due to the weight those words carry in society.

  • @onodatboi9041
    @onodatboi9041 4 года назад +2

    "I don't know why you're being such an asshole."
    Because you're you Rem. Destiny was way nicer than he could have been in this debate.

  • @snake_plant6719
    @snake_plant6719 4 года назад +1

    Vaush made it to the channel PogU

  • @joshhoward4256
    @joshhoward4256 4 года назад

    57:03 it’s not everyday a few seconds are both the highlight and perfect encapsulation of an entire debate.

  • @thecjbrowne
    @thecjbrowne 4 года назад +10

    In this debate destiny talks about laying pipe

  • @eliasward4303
    @eliasward4303 4 года назад +6

    I feel like Destiny's positivist realism is too reductionist and truncated conceptually. He should learn more about poststructuralist thought; integrating the deconstruction of conceptual frameworks and implicit presuppositions in concepts and ideology into his social and philosophical perspectives would broaden his horizons in productive ways I think.

    • @CrookerG
      @CrookerG 4 года назад

      Ahh yes 5Head

  • @blakewaltersthis7872
    @blakewaltersthis7872 4 года назад +8

    I watched Vaush play Terraria on Destiny's channel in this debate.

  • @lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121
    @lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121 4 года назад +19

    Damn Vaush and Destiny are such a dynamic duo I love it

  • @mvemjsunp8
    @mvemjsunp8 4 года назад +7

    10/10 title

  • @drewkavi6327
    @drewkavi6327 4 года назад +3

    Destiny yoinked Vaush's video in this video

  • @ThunderTurkey100
    @ThunderTurkey100 4 года назад +4

    Best part about this pipeline... is that its being built beside an already existing one... Its just 1 tribe who band councils agree on the pipeline yo be built are being blocked by a minority based

    • @ZombieLincoln666
      @ZombieLincoln666 4 года назад +1

      KhorneYEG It’s almost always like this. Like 1.5 actual indigenous people protesting alongside 1000 unbathed white socialists

    • @ThunderTurkey100
      @ThunderTurkey100 4 года назад +1

      Also Rem also likes to ignore the fact these people illegally blocksided CN railways. Causring Economic damage for Eastern Canada. To the point Atlantic Canada Grocery stores were having shortages on everything. Having to truck things across.

  • @nigelwarner8398
    @nigelwarner8398 4 года назад +3

    Stick to American politics. Everybody in this debate made it very clear they don't understand the complex relationship between Canada and the First Nations People of Canada. They could have used this time learning along with the audience about the topic instead of acting like they know already. Oh well.

    • @ultimateblaze23
      @ultimateblaze23 4 года назад

      this is dumb comment, you don't need a deep understanding of this to answer the question "is it ok for Canada to build pipelines through native land against their will?"

    • @nigelwarner8398
      @nigelwarner8398 4 года назад

      @@ultimateblaze23 I'm glad you took the time to warn everybody that your comment is dumb.

  • @artvandelay3667
    @artvandelay3667 4 года назад +1

    the problem is that this case mixes two forms of societies: the liberal, post-enlightment, contract based modern state vs. an ethno-centric blood and soil variant.
    you cannot implement both for a long time without running into contradictions

  • @bgfoote7714
    @bgfoote7714 4 года назад +3

    This is a debate between 2 people who have no idea what they are talking about.

  • @BlackSalamander439
    @BlackSalamander439 4 года назад +3

    Destiny uploaded Vaush's stream in this debate

  • @catton1
    @catton1 4 года назад +5

    I feel like I've seen this somewhere before

  • @SlavicSloth
    @SlavicSloth 4 года назад +3

    Vuash being "hosted" by Destiny. I love this timeline.

  • @yusashow
    @yusashow 4 года назад +5

    Vaush just wanted to play Terraria in this debate

  • @Copyright_Infringement
    @Copyright_Infringement 4 года назад +1

    Vaush became the subject of conversation in this debate

  • @lauren8135
    @lauren8135 4 года назад +1

    2:33 that Jim from The Office look. XD

  • @saintdevilsfood7784
    @saintdevilsfood7784 4 года назад +1

    There's that *YAKUBIAN ENERGY* again from Rem

  • @Felipeonhere
    @Felipeonhere 4 года назад +5

    Destiny used destiny debate tactics in this debate

  • @thepovertysoldier9220
    @thepovertysoldier9220 4 года назад

    This is pretty cool.

  • @pennclick
    @pennclick 4 года назад +1

    Destiny’s editor didn’t observe fair use in this debate

  • @pegas203
    @pegas203 4 года назад +2

    vaush became destiny in this debate