People keep bringing up customer support without mentioning that this is in the United States. Customer support rules and laws are different outside of the US.
In EU it's something we have 0 issues with. In Norway it's the third party seller who will replace our units, and they do so mostly no questions asked. Some of them will even replace outside warranty.
I mean I don't see how valve is getting pressued when with more battery size they're barely matching steam deck oled battery life but sure, you can make an argument about lenovo feeling left out.
@@HearMeLearn SD didn't really have that good battery life if you play more demanding games. Maybe 20 minutes more, tops. If you compare those games then the Ally X comes out far ahead, and let's be honest. I could be completely wrong, but I think it's fair to assume those who play on the Ally use it for more demanding games. I honestly think the increase in Ally X will make Gabe put on his thinking cap again to push the envelope further.
I still got one even though I have the original Ally. Mainly because it fixes my main issue with my ally and that's the battery life. Sure I could get a big battery bank and carry that with me or leave it plugged in but I don't like having cords attached to my handelds while I game it's annoying at least to me. All the rest of the stuff they added is a bonus. I like the better grips as I never felt like the ally was the most comfortable to hold. The extra RAM is nice as we can now just max the VRAM to 8GB and still have almost 16GB left for Windows and the game. Also nice they doubled the SSD I was constantly having to remove games as I'd run out of space. Excited to get mine and get some gameplay videos and comparisons out. But the 22 feels so far away.
Ally X: Bigger Battery My Ally: I only play on it for an hour or less at a time. And charging is fast, I'm good Ally X: Faster and more ram My Ally: I don't have fps counter turned on so I won't see the 3-7fps difference lol! Ally X: New I.U, 1tb nvme and upgraded external components My Ally: I have a 1tb in it already, We are getting the new armory crate and it feels fine as it is right now When it comes down to it for me to spend an extra $700 CAD ( After selling my ally) it's not going to be worth it
Conclusion: Double capacity of battery, replacing XG Mobile Link with USB4, improved cooling system, improved SD card slot. Other than these are still the same.
I've been happy switching to the rog so i can primarly use a windows oriented expirence, but i won't be lying. There is stuff i wish was better, like sd card issues! excited for a new device, but idk about a refresh ....
Double battery life is still not going to be enough. I kill the battery in 45 minutes right now and end up on my Switch oled which will run almost all day. I would want at least 4 hour battery life. I would guess the x gets less that 2 hours which means a dead battery interupts my game.
I bought the OLED it's not that cheap but definitely cheaper. I got it and I think most people got the deck for the consolized experience that Asus can't match.
Most likely Ally 2 will come with same screen size, battery, ram but oled screen, and better chip. Battery will be insanely good with ally 2 bc of oled.
At least they are committed to the long haul, all of the SD fanboys were blabbing about how they didn’t give a crap and weren’t going to be around long.
Steam Deck is not bad, but compared to the ROG Ally and Legion Go, it's absolute trash, unless you're only playing Steam and older games. It's missing too many features due to Linux/SteamOS. There's no GamePass, and a lot of games have issues or don't start at all. Once you get used to the Windows handheld interface, you get everything without restrictions. The Steam Deck is attractively priced but still quite outdated. I can't recommend an expensive Steam Deck with better hardware either because you still get SteamOS, which is very restrictive.
Omg yesss also I knew this guy was a steam deck fanboy. Looking at his page alone is a dead giveaway. The Asus rog ally X seem like an improvement over the original and somehow people like this find a way to downplay it in favor of the steam Deck. What's wrong with Valve fanboys??
Valve made a mistake by using Linux as the OS. The Steam Deck is a Trojan horse for the steam store. many games don't even work on it. you get to play all games with an ally especially latest AAAs that Deck can barely handle.
Yeah but selling the LCD version and buying the OLED version for the numerous upgrades will probably cost a 1/4 of cost of the Ally X. But still, waiting for the Ally X full reviews to see how good the battery life is. 😎
@@Saif0412 I am going to sell my SteamDeck OLED and get the ROG Ally X. It looks like a huge step up. The massive battery, connectivity, windows makes it a full-fledged handheld computer on top of a gaming handheld.
Re-stating my comment from the earlier version: I kind of miss the catchy end tune/outro you used to put on the end. Made it a nice outro to a nice moment!
Love to see this fwiw. I've said a few times, I think how they've handled the X was incredibly smart. They took all the feedback on the one hand, and on the other hand, it doesn't seem to overly invoke FOMO for the people that are content with the original.
@draco2xx I have both the Deck OLED and the ROG ALLY Z1X, and yes, that small 7" screen is amazing. It's really crazy how good it looks. It's just right, for real. Still, it's not that much smaller, honestly. Where people get confused is that the ROG ALLY is for major game titles like AAA. The Deck is great for lower-end and older games, indie games. That's what people need to know, honestly. If I would have known, I wouldn't have the OLED right now. I found out the hard way, but they are both amazing machines and great to have. I love having both.
I still feel the Steam Deck is the better of the products, but Asus with its ROG Ally are compelling, especially with how it's been slashing its price point. Valve for the most part has the quality control, mostly thanks to SteamOS and the price is a bit more compelling, but the hardware is started to get dated, rivals offer better hardware specs and in the case of Asus, the price point is quite competitive, if they sort out the quality control and OS aspect, the ROG Ally would be a better product then what Valve is offering with the Steam Deck, and that gap will widen the longer it takes for Valve to release a Steam Deck 2 or if Valve isn't aggressive enough on slashing prices. The simple truth is, SteamOS is the main selling point of the Deck, take that out or if rivals have a compelling interface, things could start to change in rival's favour, especially with Asus that have been aggressive on lowering the price point. I also think this is why Valve are not releasing SteamOS to the market for rivals to use, they likely know it's the main selling point of the Deck, but it's a bit short-sighted of Valve, with SteamOS, they've had a massive opening to shift gamers from Windows to Linux, but they are not taking it by pushing SteamOS to be more open for rivals to use it, in other words, forcing them to make their own solutions through Windows, which are getting better all the time. Then there is the noise about Microsoft planning on doing a streamlined Windows with a portable interface for these portable devices, if they do and it works well, Linux market share could start to go back in decline because Valve didn't push SteamOS hard enough when they had the chance, and let's be blunt about this, if we have a streamlined WIndows OS and interface, a lot of us will switch back because you will have 100% games compatibility without any of the issues of the translation layer. Seriously Valve, what on earth are you playing at lol, they've been pushing gaming on Linux for decades now and now they've got an opening to do so that actually works and yet Valve isn't taking advantage of it by pushing hard for market share by trying to get SteamOS on as many devices as possible, I mean seriously, it's been 3 years with no signs of Valve opening up SteamOS to the market, and that one move whiles in the short term is an advantage to Valve with the Steam Deck, it's likely going to backfire on them once Microsoft gets its act together with Windows and then Valve is back to square one with Linux having little to no market share, when you get this kind of opening, take advantage of it as quickly as you can before your rivals wake up, something Valve is clearly not doing and it might already be too late.
The original ally only lasts 50 minutes on any slightly demanding game, and this one will still only last under 2 hours. Not worth it if you want portability
I have Asus ROG Ally and had 512GB sd card in it and it runs great. I played Gears of War 1 to 5, Call of duty black ops 1, 2, 3, Cold war and waiting for Black Ops 6, Need For Speed the run as I bought DVD in 2011 in pre order and copied on external HDD, Watch Dogs, Fallout 1 to 4, Cyberpunk 2077, Dead Space Remake and list is go on. Still this device has juice to run games and there are plenty of games that I have to play. No need to change for Ally X.
The ASUS ROG ALLY Z1X is amazing and will be for a few years. You're right. I have the Steam Deck OLED too, and it's night and day between them. The ROG Ally crushes all the really high-demanding games the Steam Deck can't even begin to try and run. But the small games are great on the OLED. But I prefer the ROG Ally. It's awesome, and that screen is perfect. I think they just need to make the bezels smaller, and it would be perfect on the ROG Ally Z1X.
I am going to sell my SteamDeck OLED and get the ROG Ally X. It looks like a huge step up. The massive battery, extra USB C, windows os makes it a full-fledged handheld computer on top of a gaming handheld. And thanks to the abundance of SteamDeck sheep and lack of retail availability, I am getting almost 100% of its price back.
Quick correction. It was a board issue not a heating issue. They address this in that gamers nexus video. That’s why some people did not have the issue.
@@rakilkeys Asus has been very scummy about warranties lately. Here in Mexico, they have to allow authorized retailers and technicians in order to have your devices fixed... Fortunately most of them are pretty good and reasonable, but when that doesn't go as planned you can ask the government to force them to do their job or else get wrecked with fines and taxes. I wish they didn't have it as easy as in the USA, the stuff they're doing to customers is baffling.
Ally X is fine for people that don't own the original, but it's not meant to be an upgrade for people that do. I think people keep getting confused about that. This isn't Ally 2. It's a slightly higher trim of the original.
I love my ally to be honest a little bit more power handheld wise would be nice but i have the 4090 XGmobile so if im ever lacking power ill just plug it into that + TV and ( emperor palpatine voice ) Unlimited Powaaaaa!!! So yea not really a Necessity upgrade at this moment
"The XG Mobile port has double the throughput as a USB4 Port" True.... but who tf wants to pay $2k USD for a MOBILE 4090 eGPU??? Oh, and although the XG Mobile eGPU IS PCIe 4.0x4, the XG Mobile port on the ROG Ally Z1/Z1E ITSELF has been PROVEN to only be PCIe 3.0x4... So if it has the same potential throughput as ANY OCuLink SFF-8612 port running of 4.0x4 it would be a max theoretical bandwidth of 64GBPS (iirc), where as the downgrade going backwards to 3.0x4 drops it to around 32GBPS... which is approx 8GBPS (theoretical threshold) lower than that of USB4/TBT4
That dead is ugly!!!! If buy it just for the upgraded bog battery! That was the only issue I had with it, aside from the sdcard issue, that, did get the best of me, but I did get it fix. The rog ally is way better than the steam deck. I wouldn't trust a steam deck channel that's telling me I don't need the rog ally x
If Steam can make the Steam Deck 2 as powerful as the Asus ROG Ally, it will be game over, but I doubt they will or can. I love the Deck OLED, but I'm glad I have the Asus ROG Ally Z1X for the really demanding games because the Steam Deck just can't run the AAA titles. The Asus ROG Ally, though, is very good at running them, especially plugged in.
Bought a 1tb Oled a few months ago. Since then I haven't used my PS5 or Portal. So I've decided to go fully back to my gaming PC. So it will be Deck for Emulation and less demanding games. ROG ally X for anti cheat and triple AAA games. Plus gamepass. Selling my PS5 will offset the price
$800 is very overpriced $649 would of been a better price point and a $499 and $549 price drop for the original models. Should i grab the original model ? Was interested in the x but its very expensive.
i know i`m probably in the minor, but i would like a handheld formed like a Play station portal (with the gamepad grips) and a screen around 9inches. No its not so portable that you maybe would have it in your pocket and play it at the bus, but you could take it with you at trips, cacbin etc. Would certanly match my needs
Got the Steam Deck and dont need OLED. Got the Rog Ally Z1extreme and wont need this one. Got the Switch Lite and wont need the new one coming up. Dont fall into Consumerism. If you have neither then go for it.
Steam deck is not available everywhere so in most countries you have to buy it with unofficial ways at a high prices without any customer support so in that case ally is a good alternative.
Listen idc what anyone thinks. The ROG ally is still better than the steam deck. Even the SteamDeck Oled wasn’t a big of an upgrade over the LCD model. End of the day I want games and the Rog ally is giving me more of it especially in regards to triple A titles you can’t play on the Deck. Can’t wait to preorder mines
i have both ally and dteam deck oled and og, but i seem to keep picking up my deck lcd 😂 i dropped my oled, and now I'm just terrified to drop it again. i am lost that xmobile isnt bei g supported i have 1
Oh man. Dude I know I'm sponsored but honestly consider the Killswitch. I have a video where I intentionally drop the LCD Deck with the Killswitch on it and it came away unscathed.
You can just say you didn’t watch the video. The whole point of this video is to demonstrate why you shouldn’t feel pressured to buy this if you already have an ally.
The ROG ALLY X is to the ALLY as the OLED Deck is to the Original Deck. If you've got one you really don't "need" the other! But...... what gamers want, gamers get! If they can afford it. I skipped the ALLY range, much like the Legion etc they are just getting too big! The original Deck is the only Chungus I need right now!
Got the Steam Deck 512 Gb a couple of years ago and I'm extremely happy with it as it supports all the games that I like + it can play WoW. Also, it is not Windows 11. I might upgrade to Steam Deck 2 when it releases, but I'm extremely happy with my current handheld.
I don't understand this guy owns the steamdek oled witch is a lesser upgrade over the lcd steamdek. The Rog ally x have far more upgrades over its predecessor than the steamdek oled
Watch his OLED review video, where his conclusion is "you don't need SD OLED" as an upgrade. I'd say he is pretty consistent with not giving into FOMO for minor upgrades. Why does reviewer get hardware to review? I wonder...
Yes I do. Double the battery capacity? Double yes. Ditched proprietary eGPU port? Triple YES YES YES!! We should be glad ASUS ditched the mobile xg port. Handhelds are moving forward and, anything that kills the standardized modularity of a PC is destined to fail miserably. Additionally, I'm 99.9% confident ASUS will manufacture a dongle that will allow you to still use your XG ( if you're one of the 23 people who were actually rich or dumb enough to pay $2000 for an underpowered 4090) with the Ally X. I love my Ally Z1 Extreme. I use it AT LEAST 2-3hrs a day. The Ally X is an absolute must have. Additionally, I'm GLAD they didn't upgrade the CPU/GPU. This will give developers much needed time to continue to optimize the current chipset instead of just throwing their purse at new hardware that would lean more toward making the increase battery capacity a wash w/o much improvement in graphics. Its important to note it isn't the hardware that is bottlenecking these devices; the BATTERY is the bottleneck. So, until there is some sort of revolutionary advancement in battery technology, its not going to get much better than this. And, if we're being honest, does it really NEED to get better than 60fps VRR @ 720/1080p in a handheld? I would argue, no. I feel like less emphasis on the handheld and more emphasis on the eGPU/USB port tech would go muuuuuuch further in the handheld arena. If Asus could streamline production of a current Ally X w/ tiered GPU docks we could steer handhelds in a direction they're begging to go instead of forcing unplugged performance w/ dismal battery life. Imagine a PC Gamer focused Switch. 60fps/1080p VRR in handheld mode and 120fps/1440p HIGH settings docked would justify an S-Tier rating.
You mean smear campaigns? Literally every big RUclips is shitting on asus and upselling the much weaker steam deck for no reason, other than track pads.
@entertainmentgaming8738 I have an Ally so I know what you mean ,but like ETA Prime and Nerd Nest doing videos about the Ally X is what Im referring to. They're not even allowed to talk about battery life or benchmarks because Asus said no and they still just make the videos
Yep, definitely a "not for already existing customers but for new ones" upgrade. Now the thing actually feels like a reasonable Steam Deck competitor, but after the recent Asus fuckery I definitely won't recommend buying their stuff for a while. I even purposefully missed out on a slightly cheaper 4070s 3 weeks ago when I was going for an upgrade from my 7y/o 4gb gpu, just because it was from Asus. I ain't dealing with that bullsheet
Got a steam deck oled I probably won't even consider another handheld until steam deck 2 or or a windows handheld that is actually user friendly has proper suspend mode and track pads and doesn't have the performance hit from windows being a bloatware pig, I'm not navigating windows with a joystick and to uh controls
I will be testing one out, of course. That has nothing to do with my standards. This video is just my 2 cents on being happy with what you got when you're tight on cash. Not sure what's wrong with that.
ROFL, you don't need an under-powered Steam Deck either. The Steam Deck can't even run some GameCube games smoothly, and those games were running smoothly twenty three years ago. That's right, the Steam Deck cannot properly handle games that were made 23 years ago! @LightwarriorRz is correct, this is a Steam Deck fan-boy channel sponsored by Valve. This channel, and whatever trash-talk @NerdNest is up to on his channel, lol.
I'm not a fan of these refreshes a year later, I didn't get the deck OLED and while I have an Ally I honestly play my Legion go exclusively now. We're years away from anything being a big leap from the Z1E and more ram is still going to hit an APU bottleneck. This is a blatant money grab off the hardcore enthusiasts.
The battery upgrade was nice, yes I agree. As for RAM, yes, I accept that too. Because in some games I had to set the Ram value to Auto. For example, Alan Wake 2 (insufficient ram error), Hogwarts Legacy (Shader was not enabled at the beginning of the game). But what I liked most was still the joystick. On the original Ally, the joysticks didn't feel solid to me, I even felt some clicks. Regardless, I'll wait until a new APU arrives. Because when the new one comes, they will have added these innovations and maybe even have more RAM.
I don't need a more powerful handheld PC. What I do need is HDR support for Steam Remote Play so that I can play games that the Deck can't handle on a handheld.
@@FanTheDeck A lot of people have had success with Sunshine/Moonlight when Steam Remote Play was giving them problems, but I've had the opposite experience. Steam Remote Play runs smoothly but I get errors when trying to connect with SS/ML.
Sticking to SD LCD because I can dual boot into WIndows 11. No ready to dish out nearly 1k USD for the new ROG ALLY X - for the same price id get a gaming laptop with dedicated GPU.
Both Rog ALLY just look downright subpar to me. I've got a Win Mini. Full keyboard and track pad makes windows on a handheld soooooo much easier, and I've got a full keyboard for all the hot keys I could ever want.
You all will be shocked at one thing more than battery life: performance improvement and no we are not talking about 2-3% because of memory there's surprisingly around 15-20% at 15W improvements. I don't know what magic Asus did but that's what my mate saw, I can't say much so I don't put him in trouble, so don't judge it now, we are yet to see benchmarks and numbers as Asus not allowing it. Overall it's best handheld in the market easily if we ignore pricing, as pricing depends on individual not someone decides for them what is worth it
Yeah so my thought re: this is that not only does it have more RAM but it also has faster RAM so there is potential for better performance. I get my review unit today so I feel comfortable speculating about this for the next few hours. After that I'll have to abide by embargo 🤦🏼♂️
If you’re going to get Dbrand thumb grips I recommend going for the steam deck version grips instead. They fit the ally fine and you get 2 pairs instead of 1 in the pack. Better bang for your buck
if this was an OLED screen it would be a day 1 buy for me. You did mention it would bring the price way up, which is unfortunate and I think you are right that it would price it out of the market if that happened. However, if they could keep the price the same, man this looks awesome.
Pick up the dbrand Killswitch for ROG Ally @ dbrand.com/fantheally
People keep bringing up customer support without mentioning that this is in the United States. Customer support rules and laws are different outside of the US.
Obviously guilty of this. Very good point to bring up.
In EU it's something we have 0 issues with. In Norway it's the third party seller who will replace our units, and they do so mostly no questions asked. Some of them will even replace outside warranty.
The benefit of this existing is that it gives pressure for valve and lenovo to increase the ram and battery size of their next gen handhelds.
I mean I don't see how valve is getting pressued when with more battery size they're barely matching steam deck oled battery life but sure, you can make an argument about lenovo feeling left out.
@@HearMeLearnI'm hoping valve at least gives us a 65 watt hour battery in a steam deck 2.
they should've also made a bigger screen version even if it meant not including the vrr. alot of people like myself prefers bigger screen displays
@@HearMeLearn SD didn't really have that good battery life if you play more demanding games. Maybe 20 minutes more, tops. If you compare those games then the Ally X comes out far ahead, and let's be honest. I could be completely wrong, but I think it's fair to assume those who play on the Ally use it for more demanding games. I honestly think the increase in Ally X will make Gabe put on his thinking cap again to push the envelope further.
I still got one even though I have the original Ally. Mainly because it fixes my main issue with my ally and that's the battery life. Sure I could get a big battery bank and carry that with me or leave it plugged in but I don't like having cords attached to my handelds while I game it's annoying at least to me.
All the rest of the stuff they added is a bonus. I like the better grips as I never felt like the ally was the most comfortable to hold. The extra RAM is nice as we can now just max the VRAM to 8GB and still have almost 16GB left for Windows and the game. Also nice they doubled the SSD I was constantly having to remove games as I'd run out of space. Excited to get mine and get some gameplay videos and comparisons out. But the 22 feels so far away.
If you have the money why not
Ally X: Bigger Battery
My Ally: I only play on it for an hour or less at a time. And charging is fast, I'm good
Ally X: Faster and more ram
My Ally: I don't have fps counter turned on so I won't see the 3-7fps difference lol!
Ally X: New I.U, 1tb nvme and upgraded external components
My Ally: I have a 1tb in it already, We are getting the new armory crate and it feels fine as it is right now
When it comes down to it for me to spend an extra $700 CAD ( After selling my ally) it's not going to be worth it
Conclusion: Double capacity of battery, replacing XG Mobile Link with USB4, improved cooling system, improved SD card slot. Other than these are still the same.
I've been happy switching to the rog so i can primarly use a windows oriented expirence, but i won't be lying. There is stuff i wish was better, like sd card issues! excited for a new device, but idk about a refresh ....
Double battery life is still not going to be enough. I kill the battery in 45 minutes right now and end up on my Switch oled which will run almost all day. I would want at least 4 hour battery life. I would guess the x gets less that 2 hours which means a dead battery interupts my game.
Even with the ROG Ally X and up coming ROG 2 there will always be people that will buy a steam deck over it because of the price
Not really
I need Ps3/360 emulation
I bought the OLED it's not that cheap but definitely cheaper. I got it and I think most people got the deck for the consolized experience that Asus can't match.
That's exactly what I sold my OLED steam deck. NCAA isn't coming to pc so I gotta play 14
@@michaelgrahamjr.9605 yeah and I think I heard NCAA 14 has issues on steam deck threw emulation.
Can’t wait for the Ally X
Most likely Ally 2 will come with same screen size, battery, ram but oled screen, and better chip. Battery will be insanely good with ally 2 bc of oled.
I only use my Rog Ally for small Indies, AA, and turn based game. I don't see any need to upgrade yet.
oh nice! whatcha playin?
Great device maybe the best, but over $1000 before tax here in Canada. Way too expensive.
At least they are committed to the long haul, all of the SD fanboys were blabbing about how they didn’t give a crap and weren’t going to be around long.
Steam Deck is not bad, but compared to the ROG Ally and Legion Go, it's absolute trash, unless you're only playing Steam and older games.
It's missing too many features due to Linux/SteamOS. There's no GamePass, and a lot of games have issues or don't start at all. Once you get used to the Windows handheld interface, you get everything without restrictions. The Steam Deck is attractively priced but still quite outdated. I can't recommend an expensive Steam Deck with better hardware either because you still get SteamOS, which is very restrictive.
Omg yesss also I knew this guy was a steam deck fanboy. Looking at his page alone is a dead giveaway. The Asus rog ally X seem like an improvement over the original and somehow people like this find a way to downplay it in favor of the steam Deck. What's wrong with Valve fanboys??
How much battery can you get out of the ally how many hours compared to the steam deck?
You Goddamn Right.
Yessir!
“I Think I Kinda Want It” - Dewey Cox
It's noice
I might get one next year bit by then yheycwill probably announce an Ally 2
Looking forward to seeing what would be in an Ally 2. Do you have OG Ally?
how is the micro sd card on this thing, is it cooking it aswell😂
Valve made a mistake by using Linux as the OS. The Steam Deck is a Trojan horse for the steam store. many games don't even work on it. you get to play all games with an ally especially latest AAAs that Deck can barely handle.
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Next video: "Why you need the Ally X" 😂
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You don`t need Oled steamdeck if you have lcd one either
Agreed
Yeah but selling the LCD version and buying the OLED version for the numerous upgrades will probably cost a 1/4 of cost of the Ally X. But still, waiting for the Ally X full reviews to see how good the battery life is. 😎
@@Saif0412 I am going to sell my SteamDeck OLED and get the ROG Ally X. It looks like a huge step up. The massive battery, connectivity, windows makes it a full-fledged handheld computer on top of a gaming handheld.
I only like the oled one more because of 90hz
Waiting for Ally 2...
I think a decent amount of people will be waiting
Ally 2 with Kraken or even Strix is going to be a portable monster.
I'm rdy to leave the battery bank at home I don't need oled if it makes it 1100 usd.
@@FSAPOJakeOH didn't even think about that if they make a Strix model 😮.
better wait for Ally 3 or 4 there will always be a superior version dude
if you can buy it enjoy it and then sell it you don't have to marry one item
Re-stating my comment from the earlier version:
I kind of miss the catchy end tune/outro you used to put on the end. Made it a nice outro to a nice moment!
This just hasn't made it back into my editing flow with my new tool but let me see if I can bring it back for the next video :)
@@FanTheDeck Yay! *Vibing behind the screen*
@@FanTheDeckI second this I miss the outro
For the algorithm! Dark souls 2 plays great FYI
Thank you for participating in communication. Let us feast on the old blood of handhelds past
But they changed everything I didn't like about the ally. So yeah, my pre-order stands.
Love to see this fwiw. I've said a few times, I think how they've handled the X was incredibly smart. They took all the feedback on the one hand, and on the other hand, it doesn't seem to overly invoke FOMO for the people that are content with the original.
screen size, are you happy with such a small 7in screen
@draco2xx I have both the Deck OLED and the ROG ALLY Z1X, and yes, that small 7" screen is amazing. It's really crazy how good it looks. It's just right, for real. Still, it's not that much smaller, honestly. Where people get confused is that the ROG ALLY is for major game titles like AAA. The Deck is great for lower-end and older games, indie games. That's what people need to know, honestly. If I would have known, I wouldn't have the OLED right now. I found out the hard way, but they are both amazing machines and great to have. I love having both.
@@draco2xx the 6 inch screen on the win4 was too small for AAA games. 7 inch screen wasn't a problem I had.
@stikzlevel857 exactly, 7in is still too small for AAA games. imagine playing edlen ring on a such a small screen or cyberpunk or rdr 2
I think the biggest benefit for this is the Screen with VRR. As far as i know its the only handheld with a screen that has Freesync.
I still feel the Steam Deck is the better of the products, but Asus with its ROG Ally are compelling, especially with how it's been slashing its price point.
Valve for the most part has the quality control, mostly thanks to SteamOS and the price is a bit more compelling, but the hardware is started to get dated, rivals offer better hardware specs and in the case of Asus, the price point is quite competitive, if they sort out the quality control and OS aspect, the ROG Ally would be a better product then what Valve is offering with the Steam Deck, and that gap will widen the longer it takes for Valve to release a Steam Deck 2 or if Valve isn't aggressive enough on slashing prices.
The simple truth is, SteamOS is the main selling point of the Deck, take that out or if rivals have a compelling interface, things could start to change in rival's favour, especially with Asus that have been aggressive on lowering the price point.
I also think this is why Valve are not releasing SteamOS to the market for rivals to use, they likely know it's the main selling point of the Deck, but it's a bit short-sighted of Valve, with SteamOS, they've had a massive opening to shift gamers from Windows to Linux, but they are not taking it by pushing SteamOS to be more open for rivals to use it, in other words, forcing them to make their own solutions through Windows, which are getting better all the time.
Then there is the noise about Microsoft planning on doing a streamlined Windows with a portable interface for these portable devices, if they do and it works well, Linux market share could start to go back in decline because Valve didn't push SteamOS hard enough when they had the chance, and let's be blunt about this, if we have a streamlined WIndows OS and interface, a lot of us will switch back because you will have 100% games compatibility without any of the issues of the translation layer.
Seriously Valve, what on earth are you playing at lol, they've been pushing gaming on Linux for decades now and now they've got an opening to do so that actually works and yet Valve isn't taking advantage of it by pushing hard for market share by trying to get SteamOS on as many devices as possible, I mean seriously, it's been 3 years with no signs of Valve opening up SteamOS to the market, and that one move whiles in the short term is an advantage to Valve with the Steam Deck, it's likely going to backfire on them once Microsoft gets its act together with Windows and then Valve is back to square one with Linux having little to no market share, when you get this kind of opening, take advantage of it as quickly as you can before your rivals wake up, something Valve is clearly not doing and it might already be too late.
It looks so cheap... i hate the plastic that they use and the overall front design. It really screams "steam deck from temu" vibes
The original ally only lasts 50 minutes on any slightly demanding game, and this one will still only last under 2 hours. Not worth it if you want portability
ahh much better I thought my ear buds was going bad gg's
Lol thanks for your patience. I'm glad it's better
Shame it's no OLED, but I'm still perfectly content with my £359 Z1 Extreme Ally👍
my ears are happy again
Lol I'm glad I got it fixed. Thanks for your patience!
I have Asus ROG Ally and had 512GB sd card in it and it runs great. I played Gears of War 1 to 5, Call of duty black ops 1, 2, 3, Cold war and waiting for Black Ops 6, Need For Speed the run as I bought DVD in 2011 in pre order and copied on external HDD, Watch Dogs, Fallout 1 to 4, Cyberpunk 2077, Dead Space Remake and list is go on.
Still this device has juice to run games and there are plenty of games that I have to play. No need to change for Ally X.
The ASUS ROG ALLY Z1X is amazing and will be for a few years. You're right. I have the Steam Deck OLED too, and it's night and day between them. The ROG Ally crushes all the really high-demanding games the Steam Deck can't even begin to try and run. But the small games are great on the OLED. But I prefer the ROG Ally. It's awesome, and that screen is perfect. I think they just need to make the bezels smaller, and it would be perfect on the ROG Ally Z1X.
@chrismanning9336 yeah but overall it is beast in its segment and main USP is VRR.
24GB of ram and a huge battery is already a game changer for me. Though I'm holding back for a Switch 2 or Deck 2. Awesome video Rich!
I am going to sell my SteamDeck OLED and get the ROG Ally X. It looks like a huge step up. The massive battery, extra USB C, windows os makes it a full-fledged handheld computer on top of a gaming handheld.
And thanks to the abundance of SteamDeck sheep and lack of retail availability, I am getting almost 100% of its price back.
Nice! Didn’t know the market for steamdecks are thriving. I just preordered the ally X and I’m very excited.
Respectfully speaking Asus Is very sus they dont honor the durability and customer repair warranty
I definitely cover that here.
Quick correction. It was a board issue not a heating issue. They address this in that gamers nexus video. That’s why some people did not have the issue.
I thought I edited that because you're absolutely right. Sorry for the flub!
Same, bought the last batch and my SD cards are still working fine after 6 months of non stop use!
So if it’s their fault and they know it why not replace the faulty devices free of charhe
@@rakilkeys
Asus has been very scummy about warranties lately. Here in Mexico, they have to allow authorized retailers and technicians in order to have your devices fixed... Fortunately most of them are pretty good and reasonable, but when that doesn't go as planned you can ask the government to force them to do their job or else get wrecked with fines and taxes.
I wish they didn't have it as easy as in the USA, the stuff they're doing to customers is baffling.
@@rakilkeys they are now
Ally X is fine for people that don't own the original, but it's not meant to be an upgrade for people that do. I think people keep getting confused about that.
This isn't Ally 2. It's a slightly higher trim of the original.
Agreed. I meant this for people that already have the original. Hope that was clear
I think it depends on your needs. I have the original and preordered the X. The new usb 4 port is huge for me.
@@sickpuppy8714How?
@@zacthegamer6145 I have a usbc4 egpu/dock already. I’m excited to use this with the ally rather than spend 2000$ on their proprietary option
@@zacthegamer6145 because new think is new, duh.
To be clear, I agree with you.
So everyone just massaging balls of ROG and do zero performance comparison... What a waste of time all this videos.
I'm ready for those who are gonna flip their Ally for hella cheap!
I don't need it but I want it 😂
Nothing wrong with that my friend!
I love my ally to be honest a little bit more power handheld wise would be nice but i have the 4090 XGmobile so if im ever lacking power ill just plug it into that + TV and ( emperor palpatine voice ) Unlimited Powaaaaa!!! So yea not really a Necessity upgrade at this moment
"The XG Mobile port has double the throughput as a USB4 Port"
True.... but who tf wants to pay $2k USD for a MOBILE 4090 eGPU???
Oh, and although the XG Mobile eGPU IS PCIe 4.0x4, the XG Mobile port on the ROG Ally Z1/Z1E ITSELF has been PROVEN to only be PCIe 3.0x4...
So if it has the same potential throughput as ANY OCuLink SFF-8612 port running of 4.0x4 it would be a max theoretical bandwidth of 64GBPS (iirc), where as the downgrade going backwards to 3.0x4 drops it to around 32GBPS... which is approx 8GBPS (theoretical threshold) lower than that of USB4/TBT4
That dead is ugly!!!! If buy it just for the upgraded bog battery! That was the only issue I had with it, aside from the sdcard issue, that, did get the best of me, but I did get it fix.
The rog ally is way better than the steam deck. I wouldn't trust a steam deck channel that's telling me I don't need the rog ally x
If Steam can make the Steam Deck 2 as powerful as the Asus ROG Ally, it will be game over, but I doubt they will or can. I love the Deck OLED, but I'm glad I have the Asus ROG Ally Z1X for the really demanding games because the Steam Deck just can't run the AAA titles. The Asus ROG Ally, though, is very good at running them, especially plugged in.
I'd wait for Rog Ally 2 with strixpoint
Atleast to make my deck be worth the selloff last month
Bought a 1tb Oled a few months ago. Since then I haven't used my PS5 or Portal. So I've decided to go fully back to my gaming PC. So it will be Deck for Emulation and less demanding games. ROG ally X for anti cheat and triple AAA games. Plus gamepass. Selling my PS5 will offset the price
Well I still agree haha.
Keep up the great work man!
$800 is very overpriced $649 would of been a better price point and a $499 and $549 price drop for the original models. Should i grab the original model ? Was interested in the x but its very expensive.
i know i`m probably in the minor, but i would like a handheld formed like a Play station portal (with the gamepad grips) and a screen around 9inches. No its not so portable that you maybe would have it in your pocket and play it at the bus, but you could take it with you at trips, cacbin etc. Would certanly match my needs
I don't know if you are in the minor but I also love PS Portal design over any other current handheld out there. It feels so nice in hand.
@@celtycelluloid well, there you go:) Now we are 2 at least!
The PlayStation portal has the best design on the market.
The steamdeck nailed the ergonomics.Good thing they took something good from the steamdeck for the new model.
Got the Steam Deck and dont need OLED. Got the Rog Ally Z1extreme and wont need this one. Got the Switch Lite and wont need the new one coming up. Dont fall into Consumerism. If you have neither then go for it.
Asus customer support still sucks. That's the real reason to skip this device.
Definitely something to take in consideration. I talk about it quite a bit in my closing segment
Steam deck is not available everywhere so in most countries you have to buy it with unofficial ways at a high prices without any customer support so in that case ally is a good alternative.
@@ahmedfayek344 True.. but I'd rather have Valve's quality that Asus's. I trust Valve more with building a lasting device.
I never had any problem with asus. But again, i can't say for others.
Nothing wrong with their service stop the cap.
Warranty in uk is still 1 year which is a dick move
Listen idc what anyone thinks. The ROG ally is still better than the steam deck. Even the SteamDeck Oled wasn’t a big of an upgrade over the LCD model. End of the day I want games and the Rog ally is giving me more of it especially in regards to triple A titles you can’t play on the Deck. Can’t wait to preorder mines
As a pc sure, but the garbage battery on the ally eliminates its point. I just sold mine for a steam deck oled
I don't know how trustworthy a review of a competitor is on a RUclips channel called deck fan. Haha. Just kidding.
Ram alone should be a noticible upgrade. I wish a new cpu too but thats okay. XG mobile is already overpriced and very hard to find.
It has been proven that Linux waste more battery life than windows for rog ally, I guess it's all about how steam deck optimize in the apu
I’m waiting to see Lunar Lake in action. The MSI Claw 8 AI looks sleek
i have both ally and dteam deck oled and og, but i seem to keep picking up my deck lcd 😂 i dropped my oled, and now I'm just terrified to drop it again.
i am lost that xmobile isnt bei g supported i have 1
Oh man. Dude I know I'm sponsored but honestly consider the Killswitch. I have a video where I intentionally drop the LCD Deck with the Killswitch on it and it came away unscathed.
dude, i got to get me one. thx@@FanTheDeck
@@AlexRubio dbrand.com/fanthedeck
:)
also dbrand.com/fantheally
I 100% need the x which is why i sold my z1e to get it :)
@@MDrums85 I upgraded my ally and sold to a family member for 450
"specifically to play destiny 2" literally no sensible person gives a shit about that crap game anymore
So a steam deck channel telling me I don't need a rog ally x. Sounds like I actually do.
Funny - I barely mentioned the Steam Deck at all in this video. Sounds like your own biases are haunting you.
You can just say you didn’t watch the video.
The whole point of this video is to demonstrate why you shouldn’t feel pressured to buy this if you already have an ally.
I won't buy anything anytime soon. My steam deck LCD is my best friend.
Thank you for reuploading with fixed sound 👍
You're welcome. Thanks for the patience and support! 🤙🏼
I have the rog ally and the legion and the claw i prefer the claw because of the battery then the legion for obvious reasons
Still cheaper and more usable than the stuff from overseas like ayaneo and one x.
The ROG ALLY X is to the ALLY as the OLED Deck is to the Original Deck. If you've got one you really don't "need" the other! But...... what gamers want, gamers get! If they can afford it. I skipped the ALLY range, much like the Legion etc they are just getting too big! The original Deck is the only Chungus I need right now!
New video July 22nd "5 reasons why I bought an Ally X"
Rog Ally/ Steam Deck Expansion SSD: amzn.eu/d/0b9QrPrm
I like the new Rog but I just love my steam deck too much to bother rn :O
Still buying day 1
Waiting for Ally 2 X
Got the Steam Deck 512 Gb a couple of years ago and I'm extremely happy with it as it supports all the games that I like + it can play WoW. Also, it is not Windows 11. I might upgrade to Steam Deck 2 when it releases, but I'm extremely happy with my current handheld.
It would be great for the Rog Ally owners to trade it for the Ally 2 due to all the issues
Yeah, never gonna happen 😅
I don't understand this guy owns the steamdek oled witch is a lesser upgrade over the lcd steamdek. The Rog ally x have far more upgrades over its predecessor than the steamdek oled
So what is it you don't understand then?
Did you miss the whole first minute of the video?
Watch his OLED review video, where his conclusion is "you don't need SD OLED" as an upgrade. I'd say he is pretty consistent with not giving into FOMO for minor upgrades. Why does reviewer get hardware to review? I wonder...
Yes I do. Double the battery capacity? Double yes. Ditched proprietary eGPU port? Triple YES YES YES!! We should be glad ASUS ditched the mobile xg port. Handhelds are moving forward and, anything that kills the standardized modularity of a PC is destined to fail miserably. Additionally, I'm 99.9% confident ASUS will manufacture a dongle that will allow you to still use your XG ( if you're one of the 23 people who were actually rich or dumb enough to pay $2000 for an underpowered 4090) with the Ally X.
I love my Ally Z1 Extreme. I use it AT LEAST 2-3hrs a day. The Ally X is an absolute must have.
Additionally, I'm GLAD they didn't upgrade the CPU/GPU. This will give developers much needed time to continue to optimize the current chipset instead of just throwing their purse at new hardware that would lean more toward making the increase battery capacity a wash w/o much improvement in graphics. Its important to note it isn't the hardware that is bottlenecking these devices; the BATTERY is the bottleneck. So, until there is some sort of revolutionary advancement in battery technology, its not going to get much better than this. And, if we're being honest, does it really NEED to get better than 60fps VRR @ 720/1080p in a handheld? I would argue, no.
I feel like less emphasis on the handheld and more emphasis on the eGPU/USB port tech would go muuuuuuch further in the handheld arena. If Asus could streamline production of a current Ally X w/ tiered GPU docks we could steer handhelds in a direction they're begging to go instead of forcing unplugged performance w/ dismal battery life. Imagine a PC Gamer focused Switch. 60fps/1080p VRR in handheld mode and 120fps/1440p HIGH settings docked would justify an S-Tier rating.
Repsect for keeping shit real. So many RUclipsrs just basically running ads for Asus right now
You mean smear campaigns? Literally every big RUclips is shitting on asus and upselling the much weaker steam deck for no reason, other than track pads.
I only see they do that for steam deck and valve. Everyone is shitting on ASUS and Ally.
@@entertainmentgaming8738exactly
@entertainmentgaming8738 I have an Ally so I know what you mean ,but like ETA Prime and Nerd Nest doing videos about the Ally X is what Im referring to.
They're not even allowed to talk about battery life or benchmarks because Asus said no and they still just make the videos
@@entertainmentgaming8738 exactly the steam deck is garbage compared to the Rog ally
Yep, definitely a "not for already existing customers but for new ones" upgrade.
Now the thing actually feels like a reasonable Steam Deck competitor, but after the recent Asus fuckery I definitely won't recommend buying their stuff for a while. I even purposefully missed out on a slightly cheaper 4070s 3 weeks ago when I was going for an upgrade from my 7y/o 4gb gpu, just because it was from Asus. I ain't dealing with that bullsheet
Channel name fan of deck.. I’m sure he’s not bias at all
What did I say in this video that is incorrect or biased?
You know, you can be a fan of more than one thing at a time
@@MrWill9894 lol bro be real man he’s total bias. There’s nothing wrong with being bias just own up to it though.
@@FanTheDeck did you make a video title you don’t need the steam deck oled ?
If it had an oled screen you guys would be wet so I don’t want to hear it
But who need steam deck, steam bound and very weak atleast ally can play new games and ally x is actual upgrade unlike steam deck oled.
As I mentioned in this video, the same concept applies to SD OLED
Got a steam deck oled I probably won't even consider another handheld until steam deck 2 or or a windows handheld that is actually user friendly has proper suspend mode and track pads and doesn't have the performance hit from windows being a bloatware pig, I'm not navigating windows with a joystick and to uh controls
Actually test one out, and lower your standards, since we really don't "need" anything like this.
I will be testing one out, of course. That has nothing to do with my standards. This video is just my 2 cents on being happy with what you got when you're tight on cash. Not sure what's wrong with that.
Or just let people do what they want with their money, yea....
ROFL, you don't need an under-powered Steam Deck either. The Steam Deck can't even run some GameCube games smoothly, and those games were running smoothly twenty three years ago. That's right, the Steam Deck cannot properly handle games that were made 23 years ago! @LightwarriorRz is correct, this is a Steam Deck fan-boy channel sponsored by Valve. This channel, and whatever trash-talk @NerdNest is up to on his channel, lol.
Maybe you didn't notice - this video has nothing to do with the Steam Deck whatsoever 😭
@@FanTheDeck Lol, happy gaming on whatever device you choose!
@@sunrisesunset1734 Now we are aligned!!
I'm not a fan of these refreshes a year later, I didn't get the deck OLED and while I have an Ally I honestly play my Legion go exclusively now. We're years away from anything being a big leap from the Z1E and more ram is still going to hit an APU bottleneck. This is a blatant money grab off the hardcore enthusiasts.
The battery upgrade was nice, yes I agree. As for RAM, yes, I accept that too. Because in some games I had to set the Ram value to Auto. For example, Alan Wake 2 (insufficient ram error), Hogwarts Legacy (Shader was not enabled at the beginning of the game). But what I liked most was still the joystick. On the original Ally, the joysticks didn't feel solid to me, I even felt some clicks. Regardless, I'll wait until a new APU arrives. Because when the new one comes, they will have added these innovations and maybe even have more RAM.
I don't need a more powerful handheld PC. What I do need is HDR support for Steam Remote Play so that I can play games that the Deck can't handle on a handheld.
You can try Sunshine/moonlight. They just added hdr support
@@FanTheDeck A lot of people have had success with Sunshine/Moonlight when Steam Remote Play was giving them problems, but I've had the opposite experience. Steam Remote Play runs smoothly but I get errors when trying to connect with SS/ML.
That's fair and totally understandable. Sorry you're having those issues. Agree that Valve should add HDR support
Sticking to SD LCD because I can dual boot into WIndows 11.
No ready to dish out nearly 1k USD for the new ROG ALLY X - for the same price id get a gaming laptop with dedicated GPU.
Both Rog ALLY just look downright subpar to me. I've got a Win Mini. Full keyboard and track pad makes windows on a handheld soooooo much easier, and I've got a full keyboard for all the hot keys I could ever want.
Steam Deck is all I need till we get a Steam Deck 2
Nothing wrong with that
Just ordered my steam deck yesterday, couldnt pass up that 15% off 🔥🔥
You got a deal!
You all will be shocked at one thing more than battery life: performance improvement and no we are not talking about 2-3% because of memory there's surprisingly around 15-20% at 15W improvements.
I don't know what magic Asus did but that's what my mate saw, I can't say much so I don't put him in trouble, so don't judge it now, we are yet to see benchmarks and numbers as Asus not allowing it.
Overall it's best handheld in the market easily if we ignore pricing, as pricing depends on individual not someone decides for them what is worth it
Yeah so my thought re: this is that not only does it have more RAM but it also has faster RAM so there is potential for better performance. I get my review unit today so I feel comfortable speculating about this for the next few hours. After that I'll have to abide by embargo 🤦🏼♂️
So these cases fit both allys?
No they don't. This case is for the Ally only. Hopefully dbrand announces a Killswitch for the Ally X 🤞🏼
If you’re going to get Dbrand thumb grips I recommend going for the steam deck version grips instead. They fit the ally fine and you get 2 pairs instead of 1 in the pack. Better bang for your buck
if this was an OLED screen it would be a day 1 buy for me. You did mention it would bring the price way up, which is unfortunate and I think you are right that it would price it out of the market if that happened. However, if they could keep the price the same, man this looks awesome.