Clone your Jewelry Designs [Lost Wax Casting and Molds]

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Custom jewelry takes time. If you want to make the exact same piece without ALL that WORK, what can we do? ‪@JustinKPrim‬ and I go through the whole process of getting a hand-carved wax ring cast and getting a mold of the ring made so that we can make as many as we want in the future. Join us to learn about how to efficiently make your own line of custom jewelry.
    The original custom wax was carved by the fantastic Sophie of Atelier Tsubaa @ateliertsubaa
    This is the second video in a 2 part adventure. Check out the first on ‪@JustinKPrim‬ 's channel and learn how gem cutters can use their own stones and match them with pre-made wax designs found in wax libraries.
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Комментарии • 48

  • @kickflippro3
    @kickflippro3 3 года назад +4

    I love how after such an energetic opening Justin gives a monotone "Hello". Love both of your channels.

  • @donsilverbulletspider3925
    @donsilverbulletspider3925 3 года назад +2

    Again, well done guys. As an amateur silver/goldsmith and faceter I find my biggest problem is always cutting of the mold - it requires a lot of practice. Hopefully your teaming up videos will continue and encourage your viewers to expand their horizons.

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 года назад

      Thanks for your support Don. On mold cutting, i can agree that everything ive been seeing leads me to agree with you. A necessarily tenacious gripping hand and an assertive blade seem to be required. Everyone ive watched seems to use a beat up old file, and they bend the tang into a hook, attach it to their bench and use that as a third hand when cutting molds. Do you do something similar?

    • @donsilverbulletspider3925
      @donsilverbulletspider3925 3 года назад +1

      @@GemologyforSchmucks Yes I have done that and also used an old hinge and rods trying to copy a commercial piece of equipment specifically for mold cutting but it was not too successful. One of the best youtube videos was an oriental lady showing how to cut- all in Chinese? It was a short video. Apparently Casteldo has a product that does not need to be cut and is coated with a cream in the middle part that looks really good and does not need an apprentice period to learn how to do it well.

  • @Adamgemsjewelry
    @Adamgemsjewelry 6 дней назад +1

    Thanks for sharing the Informatic Videos @GemologyforSchmucks team

  • @awedlife
    @awedlife 3 месяца назад +1

    where did you get the casting done?
    which place in thailand?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 месяца назад

      This piece I definitely got done in Thailand. There are several casting houses and many of my colleagues like to use different places for different metals or levels of service.

  • @emalayerba
    @emalayerba Год назад +1

    Thank you for such wonderful videos! I’m new to all this and just now starting to investigate. My question: How do you make a Plastic Master Model which you can then use to make a mold? In other words you can only make a mold from a design for which you already have a master model (whether it’s an actual necklace or ring, plastic or metal) but what if you don’t have a Master Model to use to make a mold, but just a design that’s in your head? How do you make the master model? Does my question make sense?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  Год назад

      Hi Jed ~ so there are a bunch of ways that you can do this. The original piece can be made in metal, or carved in a direct-castable wax (a common and several thousand years old technique) or you can make it in a CAD program and 3d print it in a variety of materials. Once you have that object a mold can be made, either in vulcanized rubber or liquid silicone. Theres a whole world to explore here ;) ~ if you have an idea in your head and you like to work with your hands, then wax carving is an interesting place to start. If you prefer computer work, you can investigate jewelry CAD. Cheers

  • @danajanis5750
    @danajanis5750 3 года назад +2

    Excellent video!

  • @catherineholmes3895
    @catherineholmes3895 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can I do this if I don’t have a mold for the correct size stone? Like use the mold making sets on just the stone size part?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  10 месяцев назад

      It's fairly common for different components to be made and joined after casting. A ring shank for example could be one mold and then several sizes of mountings designed for different calibrated stone sizes could be cast separately, or even joined as wax from two different molds. Definitely possible

  • @applepie9806
    @applepie9806 3 года назад +1

    You guys are awesomee!! I've been looking for something like this for my wedding ring!!! Thanks! Edit: Let me go design my ring first XD

  • @scottyoldmate246
    @scottyoldmate246 2 года назад +1

    how much detail do the molds pickup? if i was to engrave a ring and then make a mold of it would the cloned rings have the engraved detail? cheers

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  2 года назад

      Engraving is typically too fine for molds to replicate it well, and casting traditional engraving cannot preserve the crisp edges of hand cut engraving. The type of wax you fill the mold with and alloy of metal that you cast will also have a pretty substantial impact on the amount of detail that can be maintained. I'm biased towards hand made things myself, but I think it's good that people know these techniques are available.

  • @heatherloop6125
    @heatherloop6125 3 года назад +1

    Who is your mold maker? And who is your caster?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 года назад

      There are many local companies here. If you need help with molds or casting services, feel free to email me at thegemshepherd@gmail.com and we can talk about it further.

  • @alanlabriola3810
    @alanlabriola3810 Год назад +1

    @Gemology for schmucks what's a good silicone for casting wax?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  Год назад

      From what I hear from casting professionals, the liquid silicone that is mixed and poured is superior to vulcanized rubber. As to brands, that is something you'll need to investigate #homework

    • @alanlabriola3810
      @alanlabriola3810 Год назад

      @@GemologyforSchmucks lol, thanks, teach. I'll have that done soon :)

  • @CourtsShort
    @CourtsShort 3 года назад +1

    Great video! What would you do if you want a copy of the same exact design but in a smaller size?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the question Courtney. When you mean smaller size, are you asking about smaller ring size (for a smaller finger) or the whole design proportionately scaled down?

    • @CourtsShort
      @CourtsShort 3 года назад +1

      @@GemologyforSchmucks yes, smaller ring size! So if I have a design idea I want to make available in multiple ring sizes for selling, how would you go about doing that?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 года назад

      ​@@CourtsShort If you're dealing with a goldsmith, the best way would be to have finished pieces in the sizes that you like - they can be silver or even brass, and that way you can get the molds remade in the future without much drama. You CAN resize the wax, just like you can resize a ring, but generally you only want to go up or down 1.5 sizes max.
      If you're working with a CAD designer, they can scale the ring and print a few copies in different sizes (and have those masters cast in silver or brass).
      The danger of trying to do all your sizing in the rubber mold is that the rubber mold isn't going to live forever, so you want to make sure that you have quality master rings (ask Sauron about that) so that you can remake the molds and guarantee your the quality control for your line.

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 года назад

      If you need help with this - send me an email at thegemshepherd@gmail.com and we can talk further about what your options might be.

  • @anniealdridge8564
    @anniealdridge8564 Год назад

    @gemologyforschmucks What would the process be if I have a ring and I want to replicate it in silicone? Would lost wax casting still be the method?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  Год назад

      Is this to say that you want the body of the ring to be silicone material?

  • @SONIA-kc1ld
    @SONIA-kc1ld 2 года назад

    Where are you from?I like to learn this process

  • @pauls5745
    @pauls5745 3 года назад

    what about the wax copies, is there any thing how to go about from that process to the raw cast ring? do we ship the wax copies to China or something for investment casting? that was the part Im searching for. I can make dozens of wax copies of my pendant by hand quicker and without the overhead using silicone molds and wax injection

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  3 года назад +1

      I expect a lot of it has to do with how many items you want made, or how close you are to a manufacturing area. Here in Bangkok, its quite efficient, both in cost and in time, both to get the molds made and to have wax injected. This is because there are MANY companies supplying the wholesale market with services and many of those companies have vacuum wax casting machines. If you want 3 pieces made and you're sending it to an American or European jeweler, but dont have an established relationship, then I can see that it would get expensive fast, but if you're dealing with someone or you yourself come to a wholesale jewelry market...
      So the real question becomes: how many do you want made? If you want tons made, my suggestion is to send one of the finished pieces to someone you trust (Bangkok would be smoother than China btw, and I say that as someone who loves China and lived there for many years) have them get a mold made, and then they can make thousands of the same pendant or whatever item and have them cast efficiently in full trees. You'd get a great economy of scale aswell.
      Cheers~

    • @annikathomas6685
      @annikathomas6685 9 месяцев назад

      @@GemologyforSchmucks What are the names of some of the businesses who make the molds AND do wax injections? Then I would be mailed the silicone molds and the wax molds to take to my caster in the US? I am just starting out...!! Your videos are awesome!

  • @AT-gu8by
    @AT-gu8by 2 года назад +1

    Can you make moulds from 3D resin models?

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  2 года назад

      I've not done much with resin so I'm not sure.

    • @AT-gu8by
      @AT-gu8by 2 года назад

      @@GemologyforSchmucks Thanks for your reply.

    • @Gizmo46953
      @Gizmo46953 2 года назад +3

      The short answer is yes. The exact resin used would be the issue. Consider too, there are 3d wax printers as well.

    • @AT-gu8by
      @AT-gu8by 2 года назад

      @@Gizmo46953 Thank you.

  • @tawansilver5275
    @tawansilver5275 9 месяцев назад +1

    ฺBIS Tower Thailand

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  9 месяцев назад +1

      In Bangkok, you're correct.

    • @tawansilver5275
      @tawansilver5275 9 месяцев назад

      @@GemologyforSchmucks I live in Bangkok and I often go there to buy gemstones.

    • @Adamgemsjewelry
      @Adamgemsjewelry 6 дней назад

      ​@@tawansilver5275
      Yes, BIS Building is also known as Warner Building in Bangkok Thailand.

  • @houssameddinesiad8737
    @houssameddinesiad8737 Год назад +1

    nice Beard men I will grow one like this

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  Год назад +1

      Thanks ~ the world has plenty of room for more beards in my opinion. I like change though, so I go through cycles of loving a long beard and others where I prefer it much closer. Such is life.

  • @KC9RXP
    @KC9RXP 10 месяцев назад

    Got the feeling you guys were a thing. Congrats.

    • @GemologyforSchmucks
      @GemologyforSchmucks  10 месяцев назад +1

      The gemstone community is fairly small, and the gem-related-youtuber-in-Bangkok community is even smaller still XD