Motorcycle Mishaps... and How to Avoid Them | HSLS S3 E8
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- Motorcycle Mishaps... and How to Avoid Them | HSLS S3 E8
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Spurg, Zack, and Joe talk about some of the less-than-pleasant rides they've had, and the lessons they've learned along the way.
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The idea of Spurg, Zack and Ryan F9 all in one podcast makes me gitty like a school girl.
With their powers combined, it’s like the Captain Planet of motorcycling!!
Yes Doc, we need that podcast!
Need Ari Henning in there too
I am already grateful that we have Ryan, Zack and Ari. I have wet dreams of an Ari & Zack F9 produced video
I think Steve Kamrad would be awesome also.
Please continue to insert pictures of some of the bikes y'all are talking about, especially the more rare ones. I rode a lot in the 70's, took a 30 year hiatus (work, marriage, kids, etc.) and finally got back into riding around a dozen years ago and have a big hole in my motorcycle models knowledge. Thanks guys, great episode!
You guys could have a 7 hour podcast and I'd still watch the entire thing with a smile on my face
Same here, and it's just what I need right now. Lost a leg in 2021. Stsrted riding at age 6. Got my prosthetic in 22, working with it since.
Been on 3 so far, Ural and a Spyder. Spyder has been altered, rear brake moved using a clutch master, for a BKA. Tried hers last year.
This year, I Am getting back on 2. The YZ 125 for now, and once comfortable with that, my wife and I just finished up the rear brake mods on her late 90s Savage. Her learner when my family and I introduced her to riding.
Lol. Ironic, thinking about that. 42 years of seat time, and now, I'm the learner again, and I'm using my wife's first bike, to relearn how to ride again.
This poscast keeps my mind off the fear and doubts, that are on my mind. Deep down, I know I've got this. But after a slow norrheast winter, the 100 percent confidence in October, is closer to 05.
Glad I found it.
Bike tipping over, I hear Cleveland Brown: "no no No No NOOOOOO". 😄
Every time I see a new episode I'm like, "There's no way I'm gonna sit through over an hour of this banter." And I somehow do, every time. Nice work gentlemen.
Nothing more embarrassing than a compound fracture!! Great line!! Seriously, great information and real world anecdotes to take to heart.
Perfect timing! Just got to the coffee shop and figured I'd just watch an old episode but no need. Keep being awesome!
Love peace and chicken grease from TN!
Great episode guys as always. I love the witty banter between you. I laughed inside when you talked about crashes. My buddy had a 2009 HD Superglide that had a catastrophic failure at 70,000km. He spent $5,000 fixing it only so that the next summer while trying to keep up with me in the twisties on my super tenere, he came into a corner too hot. A combination of poor brakes and he got target fixated on the ditch and "yes" he went straight into the ditch. He totaled the bike and earned a spiral fracture of his right fibula. So important to ride your own ride. Keep up the great videos
Great podcast. We've all have stories on mishaps. Good to hear it happens to the best. I met my wife in the hospital after an especially bad crash on a CBR 900. Over confident on a twisty I had not ridden before.
I've had a few times in traffic that I've set the bike on it's side after coming to a quick stop and not having it balanced when I first started riding. My most memorable fall was also in traffic riding home from work. I was behind a large van at a left turn signal, the light turned green and we both started going. As I lean into the turn the van slammed on it's brakes and I panic braked ending up sprawled out on the road. Another guy ran the red light and the van had to stop to avoid hitting him. With more experience I would have given more space before going and swerved around the back of the van and then stopped. I also have learned to position myself to better see around others and leave room to move. I count myself lucky in the many years I've ridden.
Great show as always had to add my own embarrassing moment I was 16 and almost dropped my first bike a honda c50 when I tried to do a wheelie
It stood straight up and I had to chase it down the street
It definitely makes me feel a bit better about all the bonehead things I've done on bikes over the years to hear that I'm not the only one! Very enjoyable episode.
For riding in the snow... 1 out of 1 wives of mine recommends Ural tires. She rides in the winter more than in the summer and while Ural's get attention in the summer... they REALLY get attention in the winter!
Definitely remember dropping my first bike while trying to get it up on the center stand.. felt exactly as you described in the podcast. Thanks for another good one!
No more Cookies for Spurg until they come up with a fix that will prevent brakeage of foot pegs!!! LOL
I love joe coming back for this one
Great show guys; Josito´s story was scary stuff!! Ryan F9 would be a fantastic guest too...Thanks!!
I found Zacks story about his and Aris front wheels locking up very interesting, heres why:
I own a T7 and in the forums theres an ongoing discussion about the low fender it comes with. Off road oriented riders put a high fender on it, because they dont want the front tire to lock up. The ones who dont want a high fender says its very unlikely that it will lock up. Interesting.
My first bike was a brand new R3, never dropped it, a perfect story. My MT09 was also new, went riding at midnight one summer and was doing a u turn. I kinda rushed it and tipped over. Lucky enough I have crash knobs and only sustained very minor damage (crash knobs, brake lever, bar end and akra carbon mufler). But it's heartbreaking to see your brand new motorcycle laying in the street....
Fun fact about using the article on freeway names in CA. I grew up in SoCal and have lived in Norcal for most of my adult life. Only SoCal uses "the" in front of the freeway number. So down there it's "I was on the 405", "take the 10 to the 57", etc..., whereas up here it's "take 580 to 13 to 24, but don't get on 680". For freeways that are in both places, I have had to retrain my brain to say "the 5" in SoCal but "5" up here, and "the 101" down there and "101" up here because otherwise it sounds weird. The geography of language is a strange and beautiful thing.
To Viktors question, yes there is softer tires for winter driving. For example Michelin Road 5, they really grips in cold , but they are not any snow tires. Great show, so mutch fun.
Im surprised there are no stories like my service station crash.
Riding between states in Australia (8.5 hours between cities). Stopped for fuel in a small country town in the middle of nowhere. Filled up successfully, but then remounting the bike stepped in spilled diesel. As I lifted the ike off the sidestand, my right boot slipped. The bike went just over centre, and slowly tipped over to the right hand side. As Im trying to right the bike, my boot is sliding out from under me. The bike tips onto its side, with me doing the splits over the top of it.
This happens as a group of about 15 riders all pull into the station behind me.
This was the highlight of my ride home from the Phillip Island Moto GP.
I want a freaking t-shirt! We’re is ARI on this podcast? I like to hear his technical comments!
My wreck story goes along with bad stuff happens when you dont expect it and close to home. Only had one jacket, zipper needed to be repaired, so I had it at the shop which was 2 traffic lights away. Was riding to the shop on my way to work to pick up the jacket, so I was being extra cautious. Light turns green, I give it a moment make sure no one is still entering the intersection. Start to turn left onto the next street, and half way through the corner a construction dump truck blows through the red at 50 mph. No ABS on that bike, not enough slow skill practice, so I locked the front and dropped the bike, better than stopping in front of that truck at least. But frame bent, bike totaled. I was lucky enough to just have a sprained ankle.
Gagged a little at the ‘looked down and could see my hip bone’. Great show, looking forward to next time, for more light hearted stories.
Isn't the point of a podcast to banter and have lively discourse? Got my free HS/LS t-shirt, and you guys got cookies win-win, big ol' thumbs up, thanks guys! J. Bone Steel sounds like an adult film star lol I think Zack was trying to get the phrase "Ride your own ride" out of Joe (50:00) So, snow tires for motorcycles - no, but do they make snow chains for motorcycles?
"Had to lay 'er down" 😂😂😂 roared laughing in the car on my way to work.
You guys do a wonderful job of informing, teaching and entertaining. The mishaps program brought back many memories for me from my, now 50 years plus of riding! Your stories make me feel better - to know that even the pros make some mistakes. The important thing is that we learned from them. Question: When will we finally get to the point where we don't make more and different mistakes? (Don't answer that: merely a retorical comment. LOL)
Its so hard to curb your enthusiasm when its a great day, a great bike and a great road. Weve all been there feeling awesome.
Im 55 and I remember learning to ride road bikes on an old triumph boni and lovely old CB 500 twin 1974 Honda we brought off a guy from his barn.
Up until then id only ever ridden farm bikes accross paddocks rounding up the sheep.
My worst crash was taking off fast and this guy pulling out right in front of me on another bike. Hit him so hard it bent my forks and ripped my shoes in half. After that i only ever rode with proper boots. I just wanna keep my toes.
I don't use iTunes at all for my podcasts. Any chance you all would consider occasionally consider picking people from other platforms for the giveaways?
But the next to last story of Joe's was pretty wild. I have flown off the road a few times when I got too sure of my abilities in corners. But those have mostly ended up with me needing to reevaluate my skills, not traction.
How does this not have more views this is the best episode!!!
Honestly you guys could put out 100 of these episodes and I'd listen to them all. Even non-crash stories. Maybe make "your most embarassing motorcycle incident" a part of interviews (of course let people opt out if they wanted, not everyone is comfortable sharing that).
This by far the best episode ever
Great show, guys! From the silly to the serious...
Joe, my story:
Riding home from work (this was mid 1980s), taking a side road (the road less travelled), coming to an intersection where I had right of the way, I'm tooling along. I see a car approaching the intersection, but they have the stop sign, so I'm just tooling along, thinking of getting home. Next thing I know, that driver ran her stop sign (she was looking for an address). She T-boned me, and I went flying over the bike's handlebars. End result: my left foot was nearly torn from my leg. Exposed bone, foot bent back behind the calf. Luckily, nothing else. Six months of surgery (bone/skin grafts), external fixator, PT, and (as Joe mentioned) the loving care and attention of my wife tending to me with basic needs.
The other driver was at fault. Her insurance paid heftily for that. But... What I realized was that IF I had paid closer attention to the situation, and been a more DEFENSIVE rider, I could have avoided that accident. Easily. It was all slow speed. True - It was not my fault. She ran the stop sign and hit me. All that being said: I could have been (and have been working towards) being a better rider. Now, I don't assume the other driver is going to do "the right thing" and that I need to be always attentive and proactive.
Plus, ATGATT! No one plans an accident. "Oh, I think today at 10:37, I will have an accident - better wear my gear!"
@Joe Zito Wow, Joe. Glad you came out of it relatively unscathed. I guess we can both thank our lucky stars for still being alive and able to ride!
who cares about preparing or talking too much, this is the appeal as if we were all sitting at a table yammering on and on about bikes...priceless!
Dropped my first Aprilia; 2010 RSV4. I hit an 'invisible' patch of oil on new blacktop in a parking lot. Front end was gone instantly.
A bunch of people came to my aid. The bike was fine and I was not injured as I was going about 10mph but my embarrassment was pretty evident. They did help me pick up the bike though.
Best one so far.. Had a blast. Thanks!
Hey Zack, that's how I, also Zack, had my first motorcycle "crash," falling asleep off the back of my dads bike. Weird.
Winter street riding tyres: in Europe we have Anlas tyres, which are made to grip on very cold asphalt or even slush. Check them out.
My first mishap was as a 7 year old and riding a PW50 at full speed into a barbed wire fence. One cardiac arrest and several hundred sutures later I was super wary of motorcycles until I got my license in my early 30s.
My first bike was a brand new sv650x which I dropped twice and was knocked over while parked by a car and there’s not one scratch to the engine, tank or frame. So fkn lucky.
My most embarrassing moment had to happen with an audience. As an instructor, we have to do our exercise demos perfectly or as close to perfect in front of the students as possible. This includes using both brakes, shifting to first and placing the left foot down first. Well because we also do a lot of walking, I normally wear a good set of hiking boots. Needless to say, as I was coming to a stop, I shifted to first and tried to put the left foot down, but couldn’t..... because the shoe lace was around the gear shift lever. EMBARRASSED 🙈
Sounds like you did a perfect job of showing student why not to wear shoes with laces while riding, lol. I can invision it now...getting up nonchalant like..."And students, this is why you don't wear shoes with laces while riding." And transition like nothing happened 😆. Some people are visual learners after all.
Canadian here; my Heidenau k60 scouts are rated m+s (for mud and snow)...not ideal but a soft enough compound at lower temps.
Had an rm 85, that thing absolutely ripped. The power to size ratio is insane for an 12 year old kid
I had just bought a HD Roadglide Ultra. $32k otd... Exactly 7 days later I had just got off work. I pulled up to a stop sign. Put my foot down on little bits of gravel and sand. My foot slid out and the almost 1000 lbs beast of a bike started to go over. Once it started there was no stopping it. 1 week old, in front of my coworkers... Then to make matters worse, that same gravel and sand made it so I couldn't pick the bike up. Couldn't get any traction. So I had to have one of the managers help me pick it up. The 2 of us struggled to get it upright due to the conditions.
I'm excited about the 1100 Rebel. I love Hondas, I had an 1100 Shadow cruiser for years and LOVED it. I don't live in the US these days, but if I did, I would absolutely buy one
Awesome episode, I really wish Lemmy was also there in this conversation.
They really should get Lem on a few of these, more Lance as well!
I've not yet graduated to "real" bikes, I'm still riding a motorized bicycle and an electric scooter (top speed of the bike is 35-40 mph the scooter is 15) but I ride them quite hard. Like for example I do two wheel slides in corners on the electric scooter, I sometimes back it in, stuff like that. The motorized bicycle I corner as fast as the geometry of the bike will let me, unfortunately the rake isnt quite steep enough for the amount of tire and power I have so I'm somewhat limited, but I can fly through a fairly tight 90 deg turn at 30 mph which for a bicycle with 2 inch tires is pretty damn good.
The main thing I've learned from my falls, is that before I try something I know is a bit dangerous, always put on all the gear. Dont just say "Eh it'll just take a second." thats when you find the one obscure way to highside a 300w electric scooter at 15 mph and go tumbling through the air for 20 feet. Miraculously I didnt break anything and got away without any road rash. I did sprain the fuck out of my elbow though.
Thank you guys, respect.
"Had to lay 'er down." Classic.
I got my first motorcycle used and the day after I went to show it to my father, he is not living far or anything. I arrived safely no big deal, when I was starting to go home I picked a different route and I had to turn more than 90 degree I have even had to stop because oncoming traffic, during turning I there was an oil patch which of course I didn't notice and the front slide out under me. No big issue happened I had bent the gear lever that's all.
Awesome podcast . First time watching your podcast. Love your work 😘😘😘
My biggest mishap? The oil temperature light on my dash kept going on and off but i ignored it, thinking that the sensor was faulty. Turns out my coolant level got too low, and on one ride my engine got so hot that the piston rings melted into the piston. I was traveling abroad and it was impossible to get a new piston mailed during the pandemic, so i basically sold my fully decked out WR250R for parts. It was the saddest day of my life. The moral of the story is: Trust your equipment!
The sound of that RM80 would probably still cause me to have an inappropriate physiological reaction. My best friend had one when we were little, and I was so jealous. I had a pair of Honda XL125s, which I loved (stopped replacing the turn indicators after the 3rd or 4th set), but always felt like a poser riding with him.
First year riding, super nice spring day , stopped to get gas at sheetz and pulled up too close to the pump, put the kickstand out and it hit the curb as I was getting off the bike and the bike pinned me to the pump. no one noticed and i was stuck for a while.
Most embarrassing moment on a motorcycle was 20 minutes after passing the motorcycle driving test, I stopped at the grocery store and grabbed to much front brake and just fall over on my side.
Loved it. I turned this on as I was gaming MotoGP20 - good fun... About Ryan F9 joining the show - can't wait! :D
Hooray, Joe is back!
35:23 it's not surprising how tough they are... y'all just got lucky. i had a low speed crash, maybe 25 mph, and ruined literally the entire engine, among other things. every individual part of the engine casing was cracked, which means you need an entirely new engine. i walked away without a scratch because it was such a gentle crash. if i could have spent a month in the hospital to save my bike i would have happily done so. it was a ten day old 2018 Kawy Z900.
Great show. I would love if you kept your guests on through the emails and the rest of the show.
Great show guys!
A friend of mine got his first proper big boy bike after passing his test, two days after buying the new bike he forgot to take disk lock off and pulled off, the bike moved about 1 ft then just stopped and fell sideways
1:02:30 just so we're even more clear, if it's below freezing, but NOT snowy or icy... i use the michelin road 5, and i ride very sportily even in the freezing and subfreezing, all the time. i mean, i'm in texas, so not ALL the time. but i ride no matter what, and that means i ride in the freezing and subfreezing during the winter. i've never noticed any difference in traction, but of course i do ride a bit more conservatively when it's freezing.
It would be a bliss to have Ryan on the podcast.
Loved the stories! Good job!
Great piece of feedback JBonesteel!! Zack, Spurg, you may want to listen to a few episodes of Armchair Expert. If there is one thing that Dax Sheppard is good at is explaining things in different ways =) might help
Best Episode Eva. I love that Jozito (sp?) always seems to be a half beat off from everyone else. Comedy gold.
+1 for having Ryan F9. Doodle on a Motorcycle or one of the female vloggers would be cool too. We still do not have the next Alessandra.
When are you going to stop teasing us and give us the Daily Rider for the Honda CBR500X? Zack's already said he would recommend it over the CBR500R and in an alternative universe Zack rode the CBR500F to work. Yes, I am trying to figure out what beginner bike to buy.
Love the show. Keep up the great work.
Question why doesn't revzilla have any reviews or articles on SWM motorcycles? They seem to have a decent middle weight adventure bike and they are one of the few manufactures that have factory supermotos. All at killer prices.
I always have a bit of banter with my riding buddy about his moto guzzis and their reliability.
It seems he is under them more often than he is on them.. however
We were doing a Zero Electric bike demo day and some people at the local dealership had called in sick. So I turn up and the manager says look can you help me out and take out the test group for a demo ride. I look round and there are six or seven expectant faces waiting for their Zero test ride.
I’m a team player and I get on well with the dealer so I say sure but I’ll take my own bike (which was a Zero FXs) out so I’m not on an unfamiliar bike fiddling with the controls while trying to keep a group of riders of varying experience together in the middle of Edinburgh City Centre traffic with no group comms.
I get through the first ride fine and thankfully my buddy turns up and I get him to take a bike and tail the group so we can keep them between us and at least have comms from him to me.
Anyway later on I put my own bike on charge and take out one of the SRFs for the final group. All goes well, dealer thanks me very much and me and my buddy head home. Him on his Guzzi and me on my depleted FXs
I thought I had a ton of range but we are going into a headwind and I’m foolishly taking the back roads and overtaking trucks etc and the range is just melting off.
At the start I had 40 miles of range for a 23 mile journey.
At the end I have 3 miles for the last 5 miles...
So I say to him over the comms, do you mind following me all the way home I’m worried I might not make it.
And lo and behold less than a mile from the house it conks out. I mean dead as a doornail.
I pull over to the side of the pavement. He has a lemans with a cowl over the pillion seat so he can’t pillion me to the house.
So I leave him with the Zero and I jump on his bike to see what I can find in my garage to help. (Side note, it is the most uncomfortable bike I have ever ridden. My hips just instantly cramped on the thing and I’m riding with one leg out to try and help the agony)
I pick up some ratchet straps from the garage and then head back
I then have the humiliation of him towing me on my fancy electric bike on his unreliable Moto Guzzi...
I’ve never been able to slag them off since ...
(Other side note. Being towed on a bike is a bloody awful experience, don’t do it if you have a choice)
I had a Harley Sportster that had a steering lock on the front neck that I locked when I parked. It was separate from the ignition so when I got back on the bike I forgot to unlock the steering lock and it was turned to the left. I was pulling out to the left and all was well until I tried to straighten the wheel and it was a no deal. Dropped the bike right in the middle of the road. Not only was I embarrassed, but I had to turn the ignition off to pull out the key so I could unlock the steering. Then I was able to restart the bike. Messed up the grip and I ended up replacing them. I never use a steering lock unless it is incorporated into the ignition key. One more reason to not have keyless ignition.
Luckily I didn't get hurt. Bad enough that you are already embarrassed and then someone has to be an ass and make it worse.
Serious question for Zack, what did you think of the CB500X? Is it a decent little ADV , or is it high-waisted dad jeans? I own the 2019 CB500X, in the same color way that you rode, so I was giddy to see it ridden by someone who’s opinion I truly value. I love mine, and won’t be trading it in if Zack thinks it not worth the bottom shelf Dunlops it ships with, just curious
Do a podcast with 44Teeth, they're tech savvy, and THE GREATEST RUclips channel on our side of the Atlantic.
Or get zach and spurg on their weekly news show for a little snippet.
Isn't Ryan F9 part of the Revzilla tree? Remember when Ryan made a parody of Revzilla when Fortnine got bought by them!
Always a pleasant surprise.
Another great show, youngsters................ LOL
my mishap: just left the repair shop with a brand new rear tire. i leaned the bike over while making a left turn. i felt the rear slip and for some reason my instinct was to throttle out lol. BIG MISTAKE which resulted in a high side once the tire caught traction.
Dumbest thing I every did…got off the bike, started to walk away, forgot to put down the kick stand. 🙄
Fortunately it was in my driveway, she fell onto the lawn, and, most importantly, THERE WERE NO WITNESSES.
My first fuck up?
Got a cheapo helmet in a place with crude winters. 2 months into that and ended with a nasty sinusitis. Learned to dress properly for winter riding when I managed to get out of that. Though, was left with some side effects. So, rookie riders dress properly, is not a joke when you end with life issues because of it.
If you guys want Ryan F9 to come on the show, maybe you need to offer him one of those unclaimed free Highside/Lowside T shirts :)
Great show
Hmm route 21A in the Catskills, Joe?
These stories make me really wish for a Slapstick comedy dramatization of some of these crashes
Speaking of safety gear, don't you think it's funny that the people who need the most amount of safty gear, have the least amount on. Flip flops,helmet and shorts.😂
Always manage to drop mine pushing them around the garage
I have a question, ok 4 questions. I just changed my tires myself...and not one "tutorial" on RUclips, or any other video, shows the true pain in the ass it was. My question is this: Do the experts heat the tires until they are molten? They make it look easy, like they are using old tires or they are heating them up until way way hot! So, I really have four questions.
1) Are the experts heating them up?
2) If so how much?
3) My front is radial and my rear is bias, are bias harder to change?(Is that even a good Idea?)
4) Did Henning "cheat" his way through his tire changing video?
P.S. My name is Michael just in case Spurg is reading the name off. Even he cant mess that one up.
Most embarrassing for me is dropping the bike because I still had the disk lock on
Thanks joe, I’m scarred for life.
Good stuff!
Lets just ignore Spurg nearly killed himself only for his mother had his safety in mind lol
I left my tiger 800 parked in neutral on slightly uneven ground. I thought it was in first. Found out with the most sickening fucking crashing sound that it was in neutral. Total bummer!
"the ppl that love and have to take care of you" haha I got no one #yolo #sendit
More than once I've had my bike die in traffic. I frantically kick start it without success, before realizing the petcock is off...
Had that happen with my bike. I just dropped the clutch to bump start it. Then realized the petcock was off, switched it on while I was coasting, dropped the clutch again, and carried on. Granted this bike had one gear and no kickstart or electric start. (Homebuilt motorized bicycle)
great show
Sheesh Spurgeon, you interrupted Zach like 12+ times in the 1st 5 mins. To be fair, at least Lemmy isn't on anymore. Carry on
Why are the video boxes so damn tiny
I have done the walk of shame to the petrol station.
Hitting gravel at 2am. No fixing that
Is it just me or Zack sound like a host on NPR?
Skip the free T-shirts too please...Only then will I leave an iTunes review
1st bike rm 80 lol I was actually thinking xr is a beginner's bike
Maaaan, 86 vt700 is amazing motorcycle! Never ever got bored on that bike.