This is probably one of the best episodes thus far. VERY good information and relatable stories here. Thanks guys and keep making episodes like this please!
As someone who rides distance when the temps are in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s, I think heated gloves and heated grips are both important (and not just for the “soft”). In brief if you’re hands freeze up you can’t use the bike’s controls properly if at all, and it can sneak up on you before you realize how useless you’re hands have become. The combo is what works best, as most heated gloves only heat the top of your hands, while the grips will obviously only heat your palms. Of the 2 I’d take the heated gloves, since your palms aren’t in the wind and so stay warmer naturally. For what it’s worth from a riding Canuck.
G'Day blokes yes its bloody hot here in Australia....great, on our bikes, having fun, in fact we can ride for most of the year....LOL....Merry Christmas...Bring on a better New Year....
It’s true, it’s vids like this that make me realise how lucky I am to be able to commute all year. Yep in winter I have to use layers, heated grips, etc, but it’s rarely much below freezing in the mornings (a rainy -1 or -2 is probably my absolute limit though lol). I only have to worry about snow if I ride out to the alps lol Really loving this mild summer so far in Melbourne - it’s Jan and I’ve not had to ride over 40C yet!
Since I'm listening from the faraway country of Slovenia, you must understand that show is great (topics, suggestions, fun,..). All the guys at Highside/Lowside are great, also RevZilla reviews and how to guides first rides - LOVE to watch them. Keep up the great work bringing us something interesting to listen to at work :) Have a nice holiday and treating from sLOVEnia
I was 15 and bought my first vehicle... a Honda Rebel 450. With no car, I rode that thing to school every day. One late fall day, an ice storm came through during school...enough that they canceled class part way through the day. I went out to my bike, had to use my key to chip off the ice just to get it into the ignition switch, and fired it up. I rode it the 1.5 miles home with my feet out like ski riggers. It was sketchy, and the only problem I had was the 25 foot hill I had to navigate on the way. On my first attempt, I went too slow and lost any grip with the back tire and came to a stop, then started sliding back down. Good thing it was a small town with little traffic! On the second attempt, I picked up as much speed as possible and barely made it over the crest. Then it all went to hell going down the hill in an uncontrolled slide. Never dropped the bike, but I didn't manage to stop before the stop sign at the bottom of the hill. That was a scary and stupid ride home, but has been a great memory I enjoy thinking about!
I have to agree with Zack that the pinlock visor is probably the most important item for winter riding. My previous helmet didn't have a pinlock option and I tried every trick imaginable to keep it from fogging. I ended up just replacing the helmet to get one with a pinlock ready visor. Best thing I've done.
I ride at least one or two days (or more) every month of the year. It keeps me from having to winterize the bike. Here in NC, you can just about assure that there will be some nice enough weather even in December, January, February, and certainly toward the end of March.
Great Theme, brought back a lot of memories from all kind of situations over the past 30 years of riding. Been pretty much through all of the stories. THANK YOU! ...Merry Christmas!
+1 on heated grips. I bought a used WR250r that came with heated grips and initially thought "What a waste!" Then the first time I took an early morning ride in the mountains, I saw the light.
Hi Revzilla team, nothing related to the video, just want to say thanks for all the awesome content you guys continue to post. Happy Holidays and happy riding everyone.
I'm from Québec, Canada. When I started riding, my gf's dad told me something I always keep in mind. He said:"There is no wrong weather to be outside, only wrong gear." Basically, if you want to enjoy your rides and stay safe, you have to be smart about the logistics.
Even when it's been below freezing for weeks, here in Michigan, the roads clear after a few days and I ride anyway. With heated grips and a good wind layer and fleece lined jeans, I ride around at 25*F and am honestly not even a little uncomfortable.
I live and ride daily in Phoenix, year-round. When it gets above about 105-110F during the day (and up to over 120F++ on the tarmac), you actually *want* to be fully covered. Squids riding with shorts, t-shirts, backwards caps and sunglasses are actually way thermally *hotter* than the ATGATT crowd at those moments... I know because I've experimented many times, on fared and naked bikes at all speeds. The air at 110+ becomes a convection oven. If you can avoid that blast of super-heated air... and that wicked, evil sunlight... from hitting your skin directly, you stay *significantly* cooler. Also, lighter colors completely, totally matter. Albedo is real!
Once spent 2 hours riding in freezing fog: almost no visibility, visor frosted up, road was icy, hands stopped working, bike never got to working temp. At the end the fluid in my knees had frozen and I couldn't straighten my knees for some time after I got off. Ouchy it hurt when the sensation came back. Anyway, heated grips, heated suit, even muffs is now my go-to kit- don't knock the heated seat until you've tried it.
The other part of cold is the cold wind. It wasnt THAT cold here, and I went out in the afternoon with some light gear some 50 km away, i was wearinf fingerless gloves, a tshirt and light jacket in the middle of winter, but was warm in the afternoon. But I miscalculated my return time and I left almost at night and it starting to get cold. However, if you were just standing still it wasnt cold, but in motion it was like freezing. So, when arrived home, I wasnt able to extend my fingers from the grip, only the fingers on the clutch and break lever when extended and those also could full extend, neither my knees. After a bit i managed to move, store the bike, get off and walk to my place half crouched cause I couldnt fully get up. I entered my home and collapsed in the ground half froozen and crawled to the bathtub, started the hot water and stayed there for a while getting warm again. Got very sick after that and started to carry 2 pairs of gloves in winter and extra layers to wear if needed. Really, beware of the cold.
Great topic. For me some basic rules. Below 50 and 3 hours or more on the road, I go heated jacket and gloves ( and grips) yes I'm a wimp. if it's below 30 I just throw on a Spurg mentioned rain layer. The weak point from then on is feet getting cold . Thinking of getting heated socks. Upper NW so the cold here really gets through.
After listening to the podcast I was inspired to not only read the Common Thread article of Concurring Snow Camp but re-watch all the Throttle Out episodes.
I ride all year here in west Texas except for if there snow or ice. We commonly get high winds here and those are not fun. For cold, it's amazing how much difference hand guards make.
Januaury 17 2020, flew to San Francisco rented a bike and rode Highway 1 to Fortuna then to Red Bluff wearing summer mesh jacket and a very thin uniqlo blubble jacket. Now I know that Cali has proper winter weather if you go north enough.
For Very hot days: Wet T-shirt under the jacket works very well, up to at least 35 degrees Celsius. I ride with full lathers all year (i wear extra gear on the outside during late fall/early spring) and this never fails. Every 30 min, you'll be bone dry, so i bring a thermos of cold water as well as a drinking bottle, in case there is no gass station nearby. For cold days. Take frequent breaks and use warm gear.
Isle of Man 2019, rode 750 miles from Germany without my liners in my jacket/pants. Thought I would use my rain suit as a wind layer when it was cold. It was cold pretty much the whole time (11 days, camping on a rugby field), with everyone telling me how it was the worst weather they had ever seen for race week. It was still awesome though, as I didn't know any better.
Also, extreme weather combined with overnight 1000+ mile ride combined with animal dangers. Long overnight run from Louisiana to Colorado thru Texas to beat an early season snow coming into Colorado. Deer strike around 6am north of Amarillo, bent forks but bike was marginally rideable and no broken bones (on me). Delayed, so got caught caught in the snow front anyway, 50 miles over 5" of fresh snow on the highway. Epic ride, not something I'd ever want to repeat.
one clear morning with a temp around 25f, but dry for over a week, i decided to ride to work. when i got about a mile from my apartment i rode into a fog bank and stayed in it for the remaining 5 miles. by the time i got to my office i was covered head to toe, including the inside of my visor, in frost.
I live in CT when the road gets moist in the winter and there is snow or mud between my bike shelter and driveway I don’t ride, otherwise I ride I have gear for all seasons, heated gloves being the most important for when the temps drop below 45 F.
When I started riding, in 1975, my winter gear consisted of: Surplus army field jacket which you stuffed newspapers in the front of for added insulation, long underwear under blue jeans, two pair of sox inside GI surplus boots, and cotton gloves inside cowhide leather work gloves. Why none of the leather gear that was available at the time ? Because I had spent all my money on a Shoei S12, one of the first full face helmets on the market....so at least my head was protected , even if the seals around the face shield did like like a sieve in the rain. 😆👍🏍.
I left on a trip in plus 32C. A few days later I found myself going from Edmonton Alberta to Calgary in plus 3C with steady rain and a little snow. I had a great jacket, old pants without the rain liner. I didn't have waterproof boots or gloves or heated grips. It was the biggest mistake I ever made on a motorcycle. I didn't make it to Calgary. I pulled into a hotel in Calgary in pretty serious trouble. The funniest part was the poor girl at the desk trying to get me checked in while I'm in a pretty rough hypothermic state. She asked me to sign and all I could do was grab the pen with a fist and scribble like a 2 year old,
Keeping cool with water: squeeze your bite valve with your left fingers and let water dribble on your body while you are riding. It also gets out any warm water in the hose so you can drink cold water. When you dry out, repeat. keep you cool and hydrated.
Spurg may not be a fan of Star Wars franchise but back in the day he definitely read a lot of Hardy Boys books. BTW, great podcast as always, and Merry Christmas to the Revzilla team.
I've become somewhat of a fairweather rider, not because I can't deal with rain or cold, but because as soon as fall comes here in Wyoming it gets extremely windy. I'll ride in almost anything else, but strong side winds are a killer.
Laconia ice racing Zack ? DO I remember there was a Moto Guzzi dealer near Goddard College in the 1980's ?? Not to far from Chelsea, VT .. As an old skier I just dress like I am going skiing in our New England winters ...I have heated grips and great gloves .. Also neck protection below 48 * ..We didn't have face shields way back when .. Glad to have closed helmets in the winter now ... Great clip you two ..Merry Merry Christmas ..
Hello guys, congrats for the channel. I live and ride in Barcelona, Spain, and the government just passed a new regulation about gloves being mandatory all the time from 2021 forward. What do you think about that? Also, what would you say is best for cold westher, hand guards (to stop the wind) or heated grips? Thanks!
I know you guys keep mentioning hey great it is in Aus right now, but it's actually better to ride in winter here because the sun's beaming here all year round, and in summer it's humid and we are constantly getting thunder storms
It takes a lot of character and discipline to stop and rest overnight when you're halfway or beyond where you want to go. So far I've pushed on. I guess it's human to under evaluate your odds are mishaps. Have a good holiday everyone!
Although it is usually 60s at the lowest over where zack lives, if you take a 40 min drive into riverside it gets into the 30s in the mornings especially at 5 when I go to work so it def does get cold enough to wear my insulated gear and double layer on the pants, def not north east cold but still can get cold enough for us in SoCal
I suffered road rash at 16 years old because I wasn't wearing any gear. I am 56 now and I am always in body armor and leather. Sometimes textile pants and summer gloves....if I don't want to gear up, I just don't ride...
@@illuforce Helps but doesn't really cut it when the temps get much below freezing, at least for me. Down around 15*F I need either heated grips or gloves.
70 degrees fahrenheit is 21 degrees celcius. In my country (the Netherlands) that would be considered a pretty nice day where you put on short clothing.
With the virus keeping international travel to a minimum and events closed what if when we get back to whatever the new normal is do you think motorcycle travel will boom or will people go back to multi person vehicles?
Any more I don't ride when it is below 40 degrees F. Mainly because of the chance of ice on the roads. It is way more likely if it has been below freezing and warmed up to 40 than if it was warm and cooled down to 40. I changed when I saw several wrecks because of ice when it warmed up and the snow was melting, but it re-froze on the road.
Podcasts always ask for reviews on iTunes. I don't and never will own any Apple products, so I don't have any accounts there either. Is there no other place where podcast reviews count other than on iTunes? I like to write reviews but it's not going to happen on iTunes. Seems weird that since Apple is less than half the US and WAY less than half the world-wide market share, that they are the only place to review.
Don't go leaving for BMW there Spurg. I'm sure they will be calling once they realize that the R18 should absolutely have been called "The Hammerhead".
ABSOLUTELY I would not EVER consider buying a helmet without pinlock. Even in summer, you get mornings where it's misty/cold and I've been riding in August and couldn't see squat because of the mist on the visor and headlights hitting it. Pinlock isn't available for my helmet so I got one of those stick-on pinlock type things and it's a Godsend. Honestly I'm almost to the point where I think it's irresponsible to even sell a helmet without pinlock.
My first bike in college 30 years ago was a Honda 350. I was in Michigan's UP and decided to ride it home, 550 miles, for break. I had NO proper gear. A ski jacket and a fleece leather vest, and ski gloves. It was 55 degrees when I set out but it was supposed to get warmer. Forecasts being what they were 30 years ago, it actually got colder and close to freezing before I got home. I stopped at EVERY rest stop and just stood with my jacket wrapped around the hot air hand driers. I bought hot chocolate at every gas station but I was shaking so hard I actually couldn't drink it. Would not recommend repeating that. But these days thankfully I have money to buy good gear and ride at temps below that very easily.
I am riding motorcycles now for 15 years. Always in full gear, never crashed once. This summer i rode my e-bike and fell and broke my collarbone. Would have never happend if I had chosen the motorcycle instead. ;)
Listen to the whole video. Well worth it. Done the same thing with rain gear to block the cold wind. You learn from experience, been caught in many bad weather hot, cold, wet experiences and got appropriate gear afterwards. Good gear costs money but worth it. Totally agree about the pinlock visor! I am riding next Tuesday two hours to my dealership for an oil change, brake fluid flush and new tires ( yes, I live out in the middle of nowhere and literally that far away from my nearest dealership). I have to leave out at 7:00am with the temp to be 33 degrees. I have a truck and trailer but going to ride because that expensive Gerbing gear should keep me warm and I need to ride. I don't ride if it's 95+ temps. It's not worth it. Pull over and cool off before you pass out.
Not so much a weather related issue but when I worked for Winter Park resort I would commute to work on the snow covered runs after the resort closed for the year. Ever tried riding a motorcycle on a ski run after it's melted all day and frozen all night?
its Dec 23rd thats the season imo lol. WTH is Spurg flipped over the y-axis again? Anyway Merry Christmas to Spurg, Zack, Lance, and whole crew at Revzilla! I have an over sized leather coat for cold weather, fits over my textile jacket. Also, I recommend keep a small squeegee at hand for cleaning the rain off your helmet visor. Agree with Zack any chance of ice or snow and it a no go. Here in NJ they also salt the everlovin out of the road and that makes it very dangerous to ride, makes it almost like a gravel road. Also, the brine in NJ is the most corrosive in the world and thats a bad for the bike. The Brits steal from India, what? Oh, tea time! BTW to all those who hit the thumbs down SUCK IT especially in this season of joy and good will toward your fellow man!
Bikes being made in 3rd world countries: They're cheaper to make there, by a mile. Almost all manufacturers are making/assembling parts or bikes in 3rd world countries. 1st world labour cost is just that much hgiher.
I swap out windscreens depending on the season. Waterproof gear is much warmer. Layers. Spurge doesn't watch Star Wars!!!! Every comment forever more...
On the point of ATGATT it’s a matter of weighing a personal level of risk. Is the “safest” thing wearing all gear? Of course, otherwise ATGATT wouldn’t exist. Aside from helmet mandates everything else is a personal choice. An informed rider should be someone aware of what potential risks they’re taking on.
I listen to y'all on both iTunes and RUclips. You 2 cutting each other offi s pretty entertaining to me, though reading the comments I guess not everyone likes it. Keep up the good work and thanks for the interesting content. Stay safe on the highway, there are idiots everywhere.
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This is probably one of the best episodes thus far. VERY good information and relatable stories here. Thanks guys and keep making episodes like this please!
As someone who rides distance when the temps are in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s, I think heated gloves and heated grips are both important (and not just for the “soft”). In brief if you’re hands freeze up you can’t use the bike’s controls properly if at all, and it can sneak up on you before you realize how useless you’re hands have become. The combo is what works best, as most heated gloves only heat the top of your hands, while the grips will obviously only heat your palms. Of the 2 I’d take the heated gloves, since your palms aren’t in the wind and so stay warmer naturally. For what it’s worth from a riding Canuck.
G'Day blokes yes its bloody hot here in Australia....great, on our bikes, having fun, in fact we can ride for most of the year....LOL....Merry Christmas...Bring on a better New Year....
It’s true, it’s vids like this that make me realise how lucky I am to be able to commute all year. Yep in winter I have to use layers, heated grips, etc, but it’s rarely much below freezing in the mornings (a rainy -1 or -2 is probably my absolute limit though lol). I only have to worry about snow if I ride out to the alps lol
Really loving this mild summer so far in Melbourne - it’s Jan and I’ve not had to ride over 40C yet!
Spurg: "Lance is like a grandfather figure to me". There goes HIS next pay increase!
Since I'm listening from the faraway country of Slovenia, you must understand that show is great (topics, suggestions, fun,..). All the guys at Highside/Lowside are great,
also RevZilla reviews and how to guides first rides - LOVE to watch them. Keep up the great work bringing us something interesting to listen to at work :)
Have a nice holiday and treating from sLOVEnia
Zack just described my exact childhood growing up in southern VT, and now I'm wondering if my memories are actually my memories...
I was 15 and bought my first vehicle... a Honda Rebel 450. With no car, I rode that thing to school every day. One late fall day, an ice storm came through during school...enough that they canceled class part way through the day. I went out to my bike, had to use my key to chip off the ice just to get it into the ignition switch, and fired it up. I rode it the 1.5 miles home with my feet out like ski riggers. It was sketchy, and the only problem I had was the 25 foot hill I had to navigate on the way. On my first attempt, I went too slow and lost any grip with the back tire and came to a stop, then started sliding back down. Good thing it was a small town with little traffic! On the second attempt, I picked up as much speed as possible and barely made it over the crest. Then it all went to hell going down the hill in an uncontrolled slide. Never dropped the bike, but I didn't manage to stop before the stop sign at the bottom of the hill. That was a scary and stupid ride home, but has been a great memory I enjoy thinking about!
I have to agree with Zack that the pinlock visor is probably the most important item for winter riding. My previous helmet didn't have a pinlock option and I tried every trick imaginable to keep it from fogging. I ended up just replacing the helmet to get one with a pinlock ready visor. Best thing I've done.
I ride at least one or two days (or more) every month of the year. It keeps me from having to winterize the bike. Here in NC, you can just about assure that there will be some nice enough weather even in December, January, February, and certainly toward the end of March.
Great Theme, brought back a lot of memories from all kind of situations over the past 30 years of riding. Been pretty much through all of the stories. THANK YOU! ...Merry Christmas!
+1 on heated grips. I bought a used WR250r that came with heated grips and initially thought "What a waste!" Then the first time I took an early morning ride in the mountains, I saw the light.
Love listening to you guys with your great info and comically outlooks
I want a Zack inspired TShirt that has the Cheap, Dorky, Expensive, and Cool graph on it.
Oh my god yes
Hi Revzilla team, nothing related to the video, just want to say thanks for all the awesome content you guys continue to post. Happy Holidays and happy riding everyone.
I'm from Québec, Canada. When I started riding, my gf's dad told me something I always keep in mind. He said:"There is no wrong weather to be outside, only wrong gear." Basically, if you want to enjoy your rides and stay safe, you have to be smart about the logistics.
I'd like him to experience 100+ degree, 100% humidity and tell me there's no wrong weather.
Even when it's been below freezing for weeks, here in Michigan, the roads clear after a few days and I ride anyway. With heated grips and a good wind layer and fleece lined jeans, I ride around at 25*F and am honestly not even a little uncomfortable.
Great stuff! Thanks for making these podcast episodes!! Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
I live and ride daily in Phoenix, year-round. When it gets above about 105-110F during the day (and up to over 120F++ on the tarmac), you actually *want* to be fully covered. Squids riding with shorts, t-shirts, backwards caps and sunglasses are actually way thermally *hotter* than the ATGATT crowd at those moments... I know because I've experimented many times, on fared and naked bikes at all speeds. The air at 110+ becomes a convection oven. If you can avoid that blast of super-heated air... and that wicked, evil sunlight... from hitting your skin directly, you stay *significantly* cooler. Also, lighter colors completely, totally matter. Albedo is real!
Reykjavik Iceland, nearly as north as it gets. Snow on the ground, ice on the roads.
Once spent 2 hours riding in freezing fog: almost no visibility, visor frosted up, road was icy, hands stopped working, bike never got to working temp. At the end the fluid in my knees had frozen and I couldn't straighten my knees for some time after I got off. Ouchy it hurt when the sensation came back. Anyway, heated grips, heated suit, even muffs is now my go-to kit- don't knock the heated seat until you've tried it.
I have awesome memories of ripping on my KDX200 in the snow on the street in up state NY as a kid. Winter riding is awesome.
On my 4K laptop screen where everything appears smaller, looking at the thumbnail, I thought Lemmy had returned to Revzilla.
He's breaking foot pegs, joints and shit. He has put on some covid fat.
The other part of cold is the cold wind. It wasnt THAT cold here, and I went out in the afternoon with some light gear some 50 km away, i was wearinf fingerless gloves, a tshirt and light jacket in the middle of winter, but was warm in the afternoon. But I miscalculated my return time and I left almost at night and it starting to get cold. However, if you were just standing still it wasnt cold, but in motion it was like freezing. So, when arrived home, I wasnt able to extend my fingers from the grip, only the fingers on the clutch and break lever when extended and those also could full extend, neither my knees. After a bit i managed to move, store the bike, get off and walk to my place half crouched cause I couldnt fully get up. I entered my home and collapsed in the ground half froozen and crawled to the bathtub, started the hot water and stayed there for a while getting warm again.
Got very sick after that and started to carry 2 pairs of gloves in winter and extra layers to wear if needed.
Really, beware of the cold.
Great topic. For me some basic rules. Below 50 and 3 hours or more on the road, I go heated jacket and gloves ( and grips) yes I'm a wimp. if it's below 30 I just throw on a Spurg mentioned rain layer. The weak point from then on is feet getting cold . Thinking of getting heated socks. Upper NW so the cold here really gets through.
After listening to the podcast I was inspired to not only read the Common Thread article of Concurring Snow Camp but re-watch all the Throttle Out episodes.
I ride all year here in west Texas except for if there snow or ice. We commonly get high winds here and those are not fun. For cold, it's amazing how much difference hand guards make.
Januaury 17 2020, flew to San Francisco rented a bike and rode Highway 1 to Fortuna then to Red Bluff wearing summer mesh jacket and a very thin uniqlo blubble jacket.
Now I know that Cali has proper winter weather if you go north enough.
When I was still working, I rode to work year round, as long as the roads weren't icy. Now that I'm retired, I don't ride if below 45 or so.
For Very hot days: Wet T-shirt under the jacket works very well, up to at least 35 degrees Celsius. I ride with full lathers all year (i wear extra gear on the outside during late fall/early spring) and this never fails. Every 30 min, you'll be bone dry, so i bring a thermos of cold water as well as a drinking bottle, in case there is no gass station nearby. For cold days. Take frequent breaks and use warm gear.
Isle of Man 2019, rode 750 miles from Germany without my liners in my jacket/pants. Thought I would use my rain suit as a wind layer when it was cold. It was cold pretty much the whole time (11 days, camping on a rugby field), with everyone telling me how it was the worst weather they had ever seen for race week. It was still awesome though, as I didn't know any better.
Merry Christmas RevZilla from Perth Western Australia 🇭🇲👍
Also, extreme weather combined with overnight 1000+ mile ride combined with animal dangers. Long overnight run from Louisiana to Colorado thru Texas to beat an early season snow coming into Colorado. Deer strike around 6am north of Amarillo, bent forks but bike was marginally rideable and no broken bones (on me). Delayed, so got caught caught in the snow front anyway, 50 miles over 5" of fresh snow on the highway. Epic ride, not something I'd ever want to repeat.
I live in Michigan, and I was fortunate enough to get one last ride in on December 2. Bike is now winterized until weather allows.
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one clear morning with a temp around 25f, but dry for over a week, i decided to ride to work. when i got about a mile from my apartment i rode into a fog bank and stayed in it for the remaining 5 miles. by the time i got to my office i was covered head to toe, including the inside of my visor, in frost.
I live in CT when the road gets moist in the winter and there is snow or mud between my bike shelter and driveway I don’t ride, otherwise I ride I have gear for all seasons, heated gloves being the most important for when the temps drop below 45 F.
When I started riding, in 1975, my winter gear consisted of: Surplus army field jacket which you stuffed newspapers in the front of for added insulation, long underwear under blue jeans, two pair of sox inside GI surplus boots, and cotton gloves inside cowhide leather work gloves. Why none of the leather gear that was available at the time ? Because I had spent all my money on a Shoei S12, one of the first full face helmets on the market....so at least my head was protected , even if the seals around the face shield did like like a sieve in the rain. 😆👍🏍.
I left on a trip in plus 32C. A few days later I found myself going from Edmonton Alberta to Calgary in plus 3C with steady rain and a little snow. I had a great jacket, old pants without the rain liner. I didn't have waterproof boots or gloves or heated grips. It was the biggest mistake I ever made on a motorcycle. I didn't make it to Calgary. I pulled into a hotel in Calgary in pretty serious trouble. The funniest part was the poor girl at the desk trying to get me checked in while I'm in a pretty rough hypothermic state. She asked me to sign and all I could do was grab the pen with a fist and scribble like a 2 year old,
Keeping cool with water: squeeze your bite valve with your left fingers and let water dribble on your body while you are riding. It also gets out any warm water in the hose so you can drink cold water. When you dry out, repeat. keep you cool and hydrated.
Spurg may not be a fan of Star Wars franchise but back in the day he definitely read a lot of Hardy Boys books. BTW, great podcast as always, and Merry Christmas to the Revzilla team.
I rode to work today - Heated jacket liner, pants liner and gloves...... all from Revzilla???? I'm such a tool
I've become somewhat of a fairweather rider, not because I can't deal with rain or cold, but because as soon as fall comes here in Wyoming it gets extremely windy. I'll ride in almost anything else, but strong side winds are a killer.
Zach remembers newspaper under ones clothes while biking to prevent catching a cold... news on paper...
dinosaur :)
You guys were successful in selling me on a pair of heated grips for my Buell. Well played , Revzilla ;)
Zack and Dennis Miller are doing a great job with this show.
Laconia ice racing Zack ? DO I remember there was a Moto Guzzi dealer near Goddard College in the 1980's ?? Not to far from Chelsea, VT .. As an old skier I just dress like I am going skiing in our New England winters ...I have heated grips and great gloves .. Also neck protection below 48 * ..We didn't have face shields way back when .. Glad to have closed helmets in the winter now ... Great clip you two ..Merry Merry Christmas ..
Hello guys, congrats for the channel. I live and ride in Barcelona, Spain, and the government just passed a new regulation about gloves being mandatory all the time from 2021 forward. What do you think about that?
Also, what would you say is best for cold westher, hand guards (to stop the wind) or heated grips?
Thanks!
I absolutely love 55° weather. Can't get enough of it. Bike likes it to
Welcome back Lemmy. :)
Try living North England/Scotland where it rains about 350 days a year.
Keis heated fleece, adventure textiles, waterproof overs
I know you guys keep mentioning hey great it is in Aus right now, but it's actually better to ride in winter here because the sun's beaming here all year round, and in summer it's humid and we are constantly getting thunder storms
It takes a lot of character and discipline to stop and rest overnight when you're halfway or beyond where you want to go. So far I've pushed on. I guess it's human to under evaluate your odds are mishaps. Have a good holiday everyone!
Wear as much gear as possible...all the time. You only have one body...protect it!
Although it is usually 60s at the lowest over where zack lives, if you take a 40 min drive into riverside it gets into the 30s in the mornings especially at 5 when I go to work so it def does get cold enough to wear my insulated gear and double layer on the pants, def not north east cold but still can get cold enough for us in SoCal
Didn’t have a car in two Illinois winters during the ‘70s. Feet down on ice a couple times…of course I was young and invincible.
I live in southern California and wear a rain jacket under my perforated jacket in the morning and just the perforated jacket going home lol.
I suffered road rash at 16 years old because I wasn't wearing any gear. I am 56 now and I am always in body armor and leather. Sometimes textile pants and summer gloves....if I don't want to gear up, I just don't ride...
Proper hydration is the very important for riding in the summer heat.
Great show Loved all the comments 🙂
I love to ride and love to tour but at 56 I cannot let myself get miserable doing it. Heated liners, yes, rainsuit yes, stop often to walk around yes.
Spurg looking more and more like Lemmie in the previews
Damn, Spurg! From the thumbnail I thought you were Lemmy! Dude!
heated grips rock. I can put up with almost anything else being cold as long as my hands are warm. Also cold hands = less control of the bike.
Just use latex gloves under your normal gloves
@@illuforce Helps but doesn't really cut it when the temps get much below freezing, at least for me. Down around 15*F I need either heated grips or gloves.
70 degrees fahrenheit is 21 degrees celcius. In my country (the Netherlands) that would be considered a pretty nice day where you put on short clothing.
Heated grips also adds safety as hands still work right
With the virus keeping international travel to a minimum and events closed what if when we get back to whatever the new normal is do you think motorcycle travel will boom or will people go back to multi person vehicles?
Any more I don't ride when it is below 40 degrees F. Mainly because of the chance of ice on the roads. It is way more likely if it has been below freezing and warmed up to 40 than if it was warm and cooled down to 40. I changed when I saw several wrecks because of ice when it warmed up and the snow was melting, but it re-froze on the road.
Podcasts always ask for reviews on iTunes. I don't and never will own any Apple products, so I don't have any accounts there either. Is there no other place where podcast reviews count other than on iTunes? I like to write reviews but it's not going to happen on iTunes. Seems weird that since Apple is less than half the US and WAY less than half the world-wide market share, that they are the only place to review.
Try a carrier pigeon
Don't go leaving for BMW there Spurg. I'm sure they will be calling once they realize that the R18 should absolutely have been called "The Hammerhead".
ABSOLUTELY I would not EVER consider buying a helmet without pinlock. Even in summer, you get mornings where it's misty/cold and I've been riding in August and couldn't see squat because of the mist on the visor and headlights hitting it. Pinlock isn't available for my helmet so I got one of those stick-on pinlock type things and it's a Godsend. Honestly I'm almost to the point where I think it's irresponsible to even sell a helmet without pinlock.
Yay. Merry Winterval!
Why does Lemmy look so much like Spurgeon lately
Spurg desperately needs a pop filter.
My first bike in college 30 years ago was a Honda 350. I was in Michigan's UP and decided to ride it home, 550 miles, for break. I had NO proper gear. A ski jacket and a fleece leather vest, and ski gloves. It was 55 degrees when I set out but it was supposed to get warmer. Forecasts being what they were 30 years ago, it actually got colder and close to freezing before I got home. I stopped at EVERY rest stop and just stood with my jacket wrapped around the hot air hand driers. I bought hot chocolate at every gas station but I was shaking so hard I actually couldn't drink it.
Would not recommend repeating that. But these days thankfully I have money to buy good gear and ride at temps below that very easily.
I am riding motorcycles now for 15 years. Always in full gear, never crashed once. This summer i rode my e-bike and fell and broke my collarbone. Would have never happend if I had chosen the motorcycle instead. ;)
Listen to the whole video. Well worth it.
Done the same thing with rain gear to block the cold wind. You learn from experience, been caught in many bad weather hot, cold, wet experiences and got appropriate gear afterwards. Good gear costs money but worth it. Totally agree about the pinlock visor!
I am riding next Tuesday two hours to my dealership for an oil change, brake fluid flush and new tires ( yes, I live out in the middle of nowhere and literally that far away from my nearest dealership). I have to leave out at 7:00am with the temp to be 33 degrees. I have a truck and trailer but going to ride because that expensive Gerbing gear should keep me warm and I need to ride. I don't ride if it's 95+ temps. It's not worth it. Pull over and cool off before you pass out.
Is Spurge turning into Lemmy ? 😁
I feel sorry for Zack. He's such a gentleman and Spurgeon keeps cutting him off.
Sometimes it feels like you guys are trying to get a piece of each other.. maybe avoid cutting each other off so frequently to make it look better?
7 minutes and I couldn't take any more!
Before you discuss summer, come to south Florida in June/July/August with the heat and HUMIDITY before you discuss Pennsylvania and California.
30F, no traction control, peel out of the garage, promptly dumped. 😄
Omg Spurg morphed into Lemmy :D
I live in South Jersey and there is a lot of salt on the roads. No bueno IMO.
Best podcast
RUclips subtitles said "Virgin Dunbar" 😆
Where's Lemmy been?
Ayy Wedge Antilles shoutout!
Good gloves or mitts and a head-sock (balaclava)
watch for those cold tires.
I'm just saying, I really appreciate that Zack knows who Wedge Antilles is. Thank you, Zack, from a fellow Star Wars fan.
Winter riding tales, followed by Summer riding? Please be careful guys, we don't want a Fall.
The first 4:35 seconds was basically talking about iTunes! WTF?
Not so much a weather related issue but when I worked for Winter Park resort I would commute to work on the snow covered runs after the resort closed for the year. Ever tried riding a motorcycle on a ski run after it's melted all day and frozen all night?
its Dec 23rd thats the season imo lol. WTH is Spurg flipped over the y-axis again? Anyway Merry Christmas to Spurg, Zack, Lance, and whole crew at Revzilla! I have an over sized leather coat for cold weather, fits over my textile jacket. Also, I recommend keep a small squeegee at hand for cleaning the rain off your helmet visor. Agree with Zack any chance of ice or snow and it a no go. Here in NJ they also salt the everlovin out of the road and that makes it very dangerous to ride, makes it almost like a gravel road. Also, the brine in NJ is the most corrosive in the world and thats a bad for the bike. The Brits steal from India, what? Oh, tea time! BTW to all those who hit the thumbs down SUCK IT especially in this season of joy and good will toward your fellow man!
Bikes being made in 3rd world countries: They're cheaper to make there, by a mile. Almost all manufacturers are making/assembling parts or bikes in 3rd world countries. 1st world labour cost is just that much hgiher.
I swap out windscreens depending on the season. Waterproof gear is much warmer. Layers.
Spurge doesn't watch Star Wars!!!! Every comment forever more...
On the point of ATGATT it’s a matter of weighing a personal level of risk. Is the “safest” thing wearing all gear? Of course, otherwise ATGATT wouldn’t exist. Aside from helmet mandates everything else is a personal choice. An informed rider should be someone aware of what potential risks they’re taking on.
I listen to y'all on both iTunes and RUclips. You 2 cutting each other offi s pretty entertaining to me, though reading the comments I guess not everyone likes it. Keep up the good work and thanks for the interesting content. Stay safe on the highway, there are idiots everywhere.