I can't get over how much I love this adaption. I've watched every other adaption for this *feeling* I got with this one. I don't think I'll get it again. Timothy Dalton is perfection.
+Sarah Young Like the cat, he managed to get what he wanted in the end (which in his case was some sign from Jane that she might have feelings for him above and beyond merely the kindness of her heart)
@@Kein928 Она не изящная. Наоборот, широкая и низкая, как тумбочка. И тяжелая. Стройному Рочестеру чисто внешне подошла бы тростинка, воздушная и легкая. Но играет она превосходно. Наверное, из этих соображений, актриса и была взята на роль.
He's not just toying with her! He's risking that she'll stoically leave him permanently, just as she left him for a month. He keeps up his ruse of an engagement to Blanche not only to make her jealous (as he later explains to her, and which is partly true), but also because he's giving her a chance to escape her relationship with him.
But he appears to be toying with her, and one wonders if Charlotte Bronte is depicting a certain aspect of Monsieur Heger in this kind of "master" sort of behavior.
@pbtraveler could be that Charlotte drew it from her personal experience. But surely the timeframe already provides a context of certain social (translated to emotional) hierarchy so to speak? It's the masculine pride on one hand, but also the interplay with the class thing of the time.
This is probably supposed to be (or at least reference) the unflattering sketch which the book mentions Jane drawing of herself as a reminder that Rochester is out of her league after she learns that Rochester has paid attention to Blanche leading people to think he is considering her as a potential wife
Who knows, maybe he planned this all to beat a confession out of her because he was afraid that he might be rejected, and he is very proud. He wanted to make sure everything was going right😂 Just my fantasy. His look in the end made a 12 y.o. me literally scream bc it was "ahaaaaa got ya!"😂
You're right I think he is afraid of being rejected, but he has been betrayed by everyone he cared about, his father, brother, his friend, and the woman he thought he loved. I think he is afraid to appear vulnerable, and wants to know if she feels the way he does.
Sorry Sybilla to totally disagree. Zelah Clarke is perfect in the role of Jane. She and Dalton seem to have very good chemistry and I think most people agree with me. Feminists seem to think there is no power in a girl who is quiet,meek, and calm these days. Sheneedsto be forever yelling and battling. Bronte did not depict Jane as a feminist but showed her as obedient and dutiful, knowing her ‘place’ in society according to the norms of that time. Zelah often showed plenty of spirit when aroused and her acting was often through those beautiful expressive eyes and slight nuances.
Как вы хорошо сказали Уже 40лет мы обсуждаем фильм и считаем его лучшим И именно благодаря этим актерам Тимати и Зила очень подходят друг другу,вот эти особые отношения между ними, эту страсть и нежность мы чувствуем и верим что они любят друг друга
I've been watching all adaptations for 2 months now and I cannot come to terms that her rendition really left much to be desired. To me, he is the best Rochester paired with the worst Jane, sorry. They do not match visually and artistically, there isn't one scene where the fierceness and spark of young Jane comes through. She was probably directed to be meek and demure, but I find it so hard to match her with him to the point that I find some gestures ludicrous, for example when she says POSSIBLE SPOILERS 'It'll be weak to obey you' when leaving, closing her hands like a spoiled child Or when he reprimands her in the scene of the veil and she looks downward in a very subdued manner (indomitable Jane??) Or even the way she said she was tired and sick when she fainted. Very unconvincing. It really looked like she was just delivering her lines without passion or a hint of wit. How can possibly such a man have fallen in love with such a portrayal of Jane!? Were the character's intelligence and inner strenght supposed to shine only through few witty comments/replies, delivered without conviction ('God has all the answers' etc)? I apologize for being harsh, but after so much time spent watching (am working on this novel) I cannot help thinking what a waste. I know it is only an opinion, it's just that she's so different from the book
Вы забыли приплести сюда Мортон Зила была хороша в своей тихой манере и очень мужественная По её глазам всё можно прочитать ,она добра и нежна Далтон в интервью сказал сказал , что Зила удивительная актриса, так тонко и чувствительно она сыграла свою роль и ему нравилось играть с ней Очень жаль, что пока вы рассматривали её рост, фигуру и возраст,вы не увидели главное И как здорово,что большинство людей это главное видят
Сибилла,я не знаю английский пишу на русском языке Вы умеете анализировать Я хочу вот что донести Далтон показал всю силу своего актерского мастерства здесь Тут многое совпало и его творческой расцвет и 5 часов экранного времени,а главное подходящий партнёр Ведь сыграть любовную историю и чтобы все поверили, нужно чтобы между актерами была химия, совместимость А здесь всё это есть Не факт что Мортон подошла бы ему У него были любовные фильмы и сцены, и даже с той актрисой, где любовь на экране и тут же роман на съёмках,он ничего выдающегося не показал И никто не помнит ни этот фильм ни Далтона в нем Мы нигде такого Далтона,как здесь больше не видели Именно взаимодействие с Зилой вдохновило его Они идеально выбраны на роль возлюбленных, химию и эротическое притяжение люди ощущают физически Поэтому и пересматривают бесконечно этот сериал
@@ИннаЖирова-м5т Thank you for replying. I have the possibility to translate your comments now (don't know why this option wasn't available before). I respect your opinion, mine is different. It's exactly because I looked beyond physical appearance (even if I do think the actress doesn't look 20) that I think there's no chemistry. Dalton carries the whole series which I love for his performance and the general atmosphere. But all these nuances in Zelah are undetectable: she just had one expression throughout the whole 5 hours, sparkling only in the scenes without Dalton (hence, she seemed to suffer his acting skills). Her character is meek, submissive, without fierceness or indomitable spirit (probably the director's choice). I imagined a different Jane, IMO Morton's portrayal was the best and I think she'd have been a good partner for Timothy
Спасибо Сибилла, конечно у всех свои предпочтения И несомненно Далтон подавлял Зилу своей игрой, особенно когда кричал Но в книге Рочестер не кричал на Джейн Значит это это кричал сам Далтон,он по характеру взрывной и импульсивный И Зила в своей тихой и спокойной манере как бы гасила эти взрывы Представьте резкий Далтон и резкая Мортон,были бы сплошные крики Не знаю,как получилось бы А по поводу химии Они Зила и Тим по гороскопу оба Овны,они одинаковые по натуре и совместимости Для меня знаете ещё какой показатель предпочтения Зилы ,а ведь уже 40лет прошло , когда мужчины пишут --Я скучаю по ней И на русском и на английском Наверное, что то в ней было и Далтон это почувствовал Вы правы в том,что он как профессионал, большую часть работы взял на себя, но видно как она развивалась от сцены к сцене
A trick, to be sure, but not one of malicious intent. Jane is such a reserved and self-contained person, it was perhaps necessary for Mr. Rochester to employ the strategy in an effort to draw from her some indication of her true feelings. He later confesses as much.
@@piamadison5539 Exacto! lo mejor hubiera sido que él se sincerara con Jane sin ser ambiguo sobre sus sentimientos. Por su forma de ser y su naturaleza, Jane no entiende que él está planeando todo para que tenga celos y así abra su corazón con él, por el contrario... pudo haberla alejado más ya que él solo habla de su matrimonio y de la otra chica; a Jane sólo le quedaba claro que no tenía ya más nada que hacer en Thornfield :(
E-xa-ctly!
Pre-ci-se-ly!
Straight from the book! :-D
With your u-sual acute-ness...geeeeeeesh
yesss thats how i imagined him saying it 🤣🤣
very soon MY.... miss Eyre 😊
I wonder if he about was to say 'my love'
HAHAH i love those bits especially in the book where he almost reveals his true feelings
@@The7MUSICLove7 or more like my lovely Janet.
“very soon my.....miss Eyre”
❤❤❤
His smile at the end is so cute!
Mr. Rochester: "and?"
Jane: "from you, Sir!"
Me Rochester: " yesss"
It's so lovely.
The best version of Jane Eyre ever !!!
Martina Skupin 1997 was magnificent as well as 1983 trust me
I saw it, boring.
I can't get over how much I love this adaption. I've watched every other adaption for this *feeling* I got with this one. I don't think I'll get it again. Timothy Dalton is perfection.
💯 . Excellent version. Best version. Too good. Zelah Clarke was type cast and couldn’t find work after this.
💯
He looks like the cat that got the canary at the end.
+Sarah Young Like the cat, he managed to get what he wanted in the end (which in his case was some sign from Jane that she might have feelings for him above and beyond merely the kindness of her heart)
Как же я люблю этот фильм. Именно в исполнении этих актеров. Идеальное попадание в характеры и внешность.😍
Mr. Rochester: "...and?"
Jane: "from you, Sir!"
Самая лучшая экранизация романа 83 года Тимоти Далтон и ЗИЛа Кларк... Как можно быть таким красивым мистер рочистер....любимец всех женщин
Прекрасная игра Тимоти, браво! Прекрасный голос. И ЗИЛа изящна и мила. Молодцы! Как не хватает сегодня таких талантливых актеров и сценариев.
@@Kein928 Она не изящная. Наоборот, широкая и низкая, как тумбочка. И тяжелая. Стройному Рочестеру чисто внешне подошла бы тростинка, воздушная и легкая. Но играет она превосходно. Наверное, из этих соображений, актриса и была взята на роль.
ЗИЛа занималась балетом, посмотрите как она двигается. Это одежда, объемные платья, делают ее маленькую фигурку квадратной
He's not just toying with her! He's risking that she'll stoically leave him permanently, just as she left him for a month. He keeps up his ruse of an engagement to Blanche not only to make her jealous (as he later explains to her, and which is partly true), but also because he's giving her a chance to escape her relationship with him.
Very astute point - currently playing Mr Rochester on stage and this has really helped unravel the puzzle.
@@bengwarwick1 How interesting! Will your stage production be filmed and uploaded on to RUclips?
Testing her feelings and character in this scene.
But he appears to be toying with her, and one wonders if Charlotte Bronte is depicting a certain aspect of Monsieur Heger in this kind of "master" sort of behavior.
@pbtraveler could be that Charlotte drew it from her personal experience. But surely the timeframe already provides a context of certain social (translated to emotional) hierarchy so to speak? It's the masculine pride on one hand, but also the interplay with the class thing of the time.
*Pre-CISELY!*
Ima say that instead of I DO at my wedding!
😂😂😂
"Pre-proposal", otherwise known as "Rochester pushes Jane to her limits, not appearing to care much for her feelings" ;)
God, I love this!
That is so true!
Accurate description of Mr Rochester
Soo true, love him😄😻
What an ass ! Poor Jane .... :/
His eyes at 3:05 though
If I had known there were shakesperian actors like that, I would have gone to more Shakespeare plays.
Timothy dalton. The best Edward Rochester EVER ! !
Seems people prefer his performance as Mr Rochester to his entire performance as 007 put together
So true!
We women idolise romantic men and gestures.
I confess, I do!
No
Loved him as Bond too! He saved the franchise. It was becoming too campy.
I just watched his first Bond film earlier this week, and his is my favorite Bond so far. He's an incredible actor, and he made an amazing 007.
Boy who drew the sketch of Jane at intro she looks like a 50yo school marm. The actress looks nothing like that.
JCs grl lol I laughed way to much at this!
True
I know! It's a terrible portrait of her!
JCs grl 🤣The first time I saw it I thought “whose grandma is this?”lol
This is probably supposed to be (or at least reference) the unflattering sketch which the book mentions Jane drawing of herself as a reminder that Rochester is out of her league after she learns that Rochester has paid attention to Blanche leading people to think he is considering her as a potential wife
Timothy Dalton Love you 😍😍😍😍😍😍
My....(dear) Ms. Eyre
Very soon my Janet..... Miss Eyre ❤️🥰
I like this filma!
Who knows, maybe he planned this all to beat a confession out of her because he was afraid that he might be rejected, and he is very proud. He wanted to make sure everything was going right😂 Just my fantasy. His look in the end made a 12 y.o. me literally scream bc it was "ahaaaaa got ya!"😂
You're right I think he is afraid of being rejected, but he has been betrayed by everyone he cared about, his father, brother, his friend, and the woman he thought he loved. I think he is afraid to appear vulnerable, and wants to know if she feels the way he does.
Yes, i think he just wanted to make sure that Jane felt the same way for him. :)
Душевний фильм,а Тимоти Далтон-сногсшибательний мужчина
Роскошный!
Is this a British thing for the soon to be lovers to engage in this sort of semi-hostile behaviour.. Bronte and Austen both depict the same thing ;)
Its a Victorian England thing methinks.
Timothy Dalton .....just as good as Lawrence Olivier, if not even better. Enough said .
Bruh he messes with her for no reason 😂
Haha, never thought of it that way. 😂
😂😂😂
This was his way of trying to find out of if she was also in love with him lol. But she gets him back in the end
Timothy Dalton is close to 80, and is still fucking HOT❤
it is come now!
Alguien sabe si esta versión está en español, o subtitulada? Gracias
La busque subtitulada pero creo que solo la encuentras si compras el DVD
Good
3:04 😂😂😂
Wasn't he gorgeous ❤❤😊
Sorry I don't know book .
What on earth are you talking about?
Were you replying to my comment on different version of book
Rochester is such a preposterous weirdo.
Sorry Sybilla to totally disagree. Zelah Clarke is perfect in the role of Jane. She and Dalton seem to have very good chemistry and I think most people agree with me. Feminists seem to think there is no power in a girl who is quiet,meek, and calm these days. Sheneedsto be forever yelling and battling. Bronte did not depict Jane as a feminist but showed her as obedient and dutiful, knowing her ‘place’ in society according to the norms of that time. Zelah often showed plenty of spirit when aroused and her acting was often through those beautiful expressive eyes and slight nuances.
Как вы хорошо сказали Уже 40лет мы обсуждаем фильм и считаем его лучшим И именно благодаря этим актерам Тимати и Зила очень подходят друг другу,вот эти особые отношения между ними, эту страсть и нежность мы чувствуем и верим что они любят друг друга
He is manipulative and a jerk!
Yes but I want this kind of manipulative man🤪
I've been watching all adaptations for 2 months now and I cannot come to terms that her rendition really left much to be desired. To me, he is the best Rochester paired with the worst Jane, sorry. They do not match visually and artistically, there isn't one scene where the fierceness and spark of young Jane comes through. She was probably directed to be meek and demure, but I find it so hard to match her with him to the point that I find some gestures ludicrous, for example when she says
POSSIBLE SPOILERS
'It'll be weak to obey you' when leaving, closing her hands like a spoiled child
Or when he reprimands her in the scene of the veil and she looks downward in a very subdued manner (indomitable Jane??)
Or even the way she said she was tired and sick when she fainted. Very unconvincing.
It really looked like she was just delivering her lines without passion or a hint of wit. How can possibly such a man have fallen in love with such a portrayal of Jane!? Were the character's intelligence and inner strenght supposed to shine only through few witty comments/replies, delivered without conviction ('God has all the answers' etc)?
I apologize for being harsh, but after so much time spent watching (am working on this novel) I cannot help thinking what a waste. I know it is only an opinion, it's just that she's so different from the book
Вы забыли приплести сюда Мортон Зила была хороша в своей тихой манере и очень мужественная По её глазам всё можно прочитать ,она добра и нежна Далтон в интервью сказал сказал , что Зила удивительная актриса, так тонко и чувствительно она сыграла свою роль и ему нравилось играть с ней Очень жаль, что пока вы рассматривали её рост, фигуру и возраст,вы не увидели главное И как здорово,что большинство людей это главное видят
@ИннаЖирова-м5т I'm afraid there's no English translation. Would you be able to re-post the comment in English...?
Сибилла,я не знаю английский пишу на русском языке Вы умеете анализировать Я хочу вот что донести Далтон показал всю силу своего актерского мастерства здесь Тут многое совпало и его творческой расцвет и 5 часов экранного времени,а главное подходящий партнёр Ведь сыграть любовную историю и чтобы все поверили, нужно чтобы между актерами была химия, совместимость А здесь всё это есть Не факт что Мортон подошла бы ему У него были любовные фильмы и сцены, и даже с той актрисой, где любовь на экране и тут же роман на съёмках,он ничего выдающегося не показал И никто не помнит ни этот фильм ни Далтона в нем Мы нигде такого Далтона,как здесь больше не видели Именно взаимодействие с Зилой вдохновило его Они идеально выбраны на роль возлюбленных, химию и эротическое притяжение люди ощущают физически Поэтому и пересматривают бесконечно этот сериал
@@ИннаЖирова-м5т Thank you for replying. I have the possibility to translate your comments now (don't know why this option wasn't available before). I respect your opinion, mine is different. It's exactly because I looked beyond physical appearance (even if I do think the actress doesn't look 20) that I think there's no chemistry. Dalton carries the whole series which I love for his performance and the general atmosphere. But all these nuances in Zelah are undetectable: she just had one expression throughout the whole 5 hours, sparkling only in the scenes without Dalton (hence, she seemed to suffer his acting skills). Her character is meek, submissive, without fierceness or indomitable spirit (probably the director's choice).
I imagined a different Jane, IMO Morton's portrayal was the best and I think she'd have been a good partner for Timothy
Спасибо Сибилла, конечно у всех свои предпочтения И несомненно Далтон подавлял Зилу своей игрой, особенно когда кричал Но в книге Рочестер не кричал на Джейн Значит это это кричал сам Далтон,он по характеру взрывной и импульсивный И Зила в своей тихой и спокойной манере как бы гасила эти взрывы Представьте резкий Далтон и резкая Мортон,были бы сплошные крики Не знаю,как получилось бы А по поводу химии Они Зила и Тим по гороскопу оба Овны,они одинаковые по натуре и совместимости Для меня знаете ещё какой показатель предпочтения Зилы ,а ведь уже 40лет прошло , когда мужчины пишут --Я скучаю по ней И на русском и на английском Наверное, что то в ней было и Далтон это почувствовал Вы правы в том,что он как профессионал, большую часть работы взял на себя, но видно как она развивалась от сцены к сцене
He is awful person
Hes not awful but I admit he shouldn't have been trying to make her jealous. Its definitely not the way to go when dealing with love
A trick, to be sure, but not one of malicious intent. Jane is such a reserved and self-contained person, it was perhaps necessary for Mr. Rochester to employ the strategy in an effort to draw from her some indication of her true feelings. He later confesses as much.
@@Mimsy2770 insecure men who don't fully trust women resort to these type of tactics.
@@Mimsy2770 but in those days especially, a woman was considered unladylike if she showed her true feelings too much. Sadly.
@@piamadison5539 Exacto! lo mejor hubiera sido que él se sincerara con Jane sin ser ambiguo sobre sus sentimientos. Por su forma de ser y su naturaleza, Jane no entiende que él está planeando todo para que tenga celos y así abra su corazón con él, por el contrario... pudo haberla alejado más ya que él solo habla de su matrimonio y de la otra chica; a Jane sólo le quedaba claro que no tenía ya más nada que hacer en Thornfield :(
Too sadistic. Not my cup of tea. I'll take the same scene from 1997.