Nice job! My observations on how to convert your idea to me rectangular space. Similar on under turf ground prep. 1). Maybe buy the compactor from harbor freight instead of hourly rental then sell online after. 2) Just buy 6’ wide fescue from box store for border turf, cut in half length wise and install first around edges, no need to curve corners as with the length and width doesn’t really add much to the putt/putt. 3) sink cups, and install putting turf putting edges of putting turf under fescue (scrape a little bottom surface under underlay of fescue for the even look of interface). As for the preparation of the ground bore install of fescue & putt putt turf. (1) I have mostly hard clay dirt already, so just level that out (2) dry pour 1.5” of dry fill concrete over putt putt surface, make sure to install putting cups. This eliminates the expense of all that back fill rock and weed blocking.
The putting has been tested a lot this winter with all of the rains. The water in my backyard was up to 5" deep in some places. The water was right to the top of the frame boards. Still looks great though.
Luke, For some reason, there's no REPLY selection on your comment. The putting green and chipping turf were purchased thru Costco. It's made by PreGra. You can look on either of their sites for the specs. We used the BentGrass Putting Green and the Fescue. Thanks for the comments. Feel free to contact me for any questions you may have.
@@larryzimmerman1898 We had local contractors quote on it and they came in between $15-20K. However, they did provide some ideas that we implemented. Using Costco for the artificial turf and an area rockery that provides base and cover materials for many of the area golf courses, and doing all of the work ourselves we came in around $5K. That was about 7 years ago, so I’m sure it’d be more now. Good luck!
Freaking awesome dude! It looks like you know what you're doing. I have an indoor putting green that I ordered online. It's on my channel. It's great but I want one similar to yours. It'll be possible soon when I move to a bigger house.
Hi kjelsone - your video inspired me to undertake a similar project in my garden in north germany! Thanks very very much for such a great vid. I have got a point where I am not sure how to continue. The base is laid and Ive got a 2-3 inch loose layer of fines on top - but it won't compact! Maybe my expectations are wrong or Ive got the wrong materials (Its been hard to find the right translation for crusher fines but I think i got it in the end). I wet the fines and compacted them with a vibrating plate compacter but as soon as they dried they became very loose again - if I walk on them then the nice flat surface is disturbed. Help!!! How did you overcome this? I would really appreciate you feedback as right now I feel like giving up :-( Danke Schön! Chris
cheekymonkeyHH I’m not sure if it’s a case of too thick of a layer of the fines or not. I did a much thinner layer, wetted it down, compacted it and repeated this cycle. With a 2-3 in layer, I’d guess that you may have a difficult time getting it properly moistened to compact correctly for the entire depth. He amount of vibration (and compression) that you’d need may be too much for the vibrating compactor to accomplish. This is just my personal opinion though. I’ve no experience that indicate that my thoughts are correct. Good luck and let me know if it helps and if you’ve got additional questions.
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I believe you are right. I think I badly miscalculated the top layer :-/ I will start raking it back and then I'll slowly compact it and then decide whether to add more layers or not. What a pain - my area is 150sqmeters - ca. 1500sq Feet so thats a lot of work coming up :-)) Once again thanks for your input. Chris
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I believe you are right. I think I badly miscalculated the top layer :-/ I will start raking it back and then I'll slowly compact it and then decide whether to add more layers or not. What a pain - my area is 150sqmeters - ca. 1500sq Feet so thats a lot of work coming up :-)) Once again thanks for your input. Chris
Thanks. It's still looking good after over 5 years. We're using it more frequently now during the Covid-19 quarantine. The costs for materials (turfs, base rock, fines, framing, turf nails, cups, flags, etc.) came out to around $5000. I had quotes for the completed project from over $15k to $20k but decided to do it ourselves.
If I wanted to raise parts of my fringe, say, a foot from the middle of the green, how would you recommend I go about that? I was thinking of just adding more dirt to the areas I wanted before putting down base rock, but I wanted a second opinion.
That would be quite a rise unless it's over a wide distance. The base rock and fines could form it OK, but I don't know that I'd rely on it maintaining the steep rise. Maybe you'd want to add concrete mix or something to make sure it holds better.
kjelsone OK thanks! Yea, the middle of the green is 6 yards from the fringe. I'm planning on making it so that I can practice chipping from an upslope.
Great job. Thanks for the detailed video. What type of cups did you use? Were the final cups cemented in place with a dry mix? Could you detail how you got the cups level with the turf? I am going to do a very similar project in my backyard in a few weeks. Thanks
I end up nailing both the chipping and putting green. I could only find recommendations on green-to-green seams (glue). I don't have any of those. The nails on the edge aren't really noticeable unless you are really looking for them. It's held up well.
Hi, great video, but can you please tell me Where this turf was purchased and what are its specifications? Looks great by the way one of the best I've seen, and very informative.
Tim Arellanes Since we're going through a record drought here in California, that's a little bit difficult to answer. However, since we put this in (Oct 2014) we did have a couple of significant days of rainfall. We used special care to try to give the putting green some drainage slopes to avoid standing water issues. I checked the green during/after the rains and it appeared to have ho problems at all. It may be different in an El Nino year though. Maybe we'll have one this year so I can report back on it then.
joey kaesbauer The cost of both the putting green and chipping turf by PreGra thru Costco was about $3700. The cost of the base rock and fines will vary on where you get them. If you're in my area (south Silicon Valley) I can suggest providers. We did all of the labor ourselves so that saved us a lot of money. Let me know if you need more info.
Good job. I am going to install one myself and wondering the overall cost of installation? Even a rough estimate would be helpful and estimate of man hours to complete? God loves the working man Happy 4th of JULY!!
The turf cost around $3700. Other materials will vary based on your application. Our total materials cost was around $5000. We did all the work ourselves, which saved between $10-15k for the project from the bids we got.
No, it is definitely not flat. It was designed first, for drainage and second to have breaks or rise/fall on most of the putts. We tested these breaks before putting down the turf with a mini basketball.
Mike, yes I have had a fair amount of construction experience, but the rest of my crew was mostly my son and wife. The only equipment I had to rent was the compactor and the power broom. Lot of sweat and hard work though.
No specific drainage system. Since this is built above ground level, we didn't think we'd need it, we tried to design it so that there weren't any low areas for the rain to puddle. Plus the water will flow thru the turf to dissipate too. We'll see if El Niño causes any problems this winter.
+Jim Kjellsen Hi Jim, How did things go during the rains this month? I am in San Jose and planning to get started on my green as well, re-grading the area this weekend and trying to decide on drainage. Anything you would change now that you are a year+ in? Looks great. Thanks.
+rtisor we made sure that there were no lie areas in the green for water to accumulate. There was always a little slope to one of the sides to drain. We've had no problems with our rains causing any issues. Having it built above ground level helps too.
Looks great guys
Thanks. It’s still doing good 8 years later.
That is awesome! Well done! Hope it still looks that great!
Awesome work! So well done and creative. Very impressive.
What a tremendous amount of work and thought you put in to this project! This results came out really nice. Congratulations!!!
Thanks Tito. We're enjoying it almost daily.
Nice job! My observations on how to convert your idea to me rectangular space. Similar on under turf ground prep. 1). Maybe buy the compactor from harbor freight instead of hourly rental then sell online after. 2) Just buy 6’ wide fescue from box store for border turf, cut in half length wise and install first around edges, no need to curve corners as with the length and width doesn’t really add much to the putt/putt. 3) sink cups, and install putting turf putting edges of putting turf under fescue (scrape a little bottom surface under underlay of fescue for the even look of interface).
As for the preparation of the ground bore install of fescue & putt putt turf. (1) I have mostly hard clay dirt already, so just level that out (2) dry pour 1.5” of dry fill concrete over putt putt surface, make sure to install putting cups. This eliminates the expense of all that back fill rock and weed blocking.
Awesome green and great video!
Thanks Ray.
nice job fellas, looked like a lot of work but I'm sure it's paying off now. enjoy
Stephen Adkins Five years later and it still looks good.
Well done, lady and gentlemen!
That is a beautiful green, I would kill to have something like that.
Thanks, but no killing please.
Excellent job...
Great Job! Very Inspiring
The putting has been tested a lot this winter with all of the rains. The water in my backyard was up to 5" deep in some places. The water was right to the top of the frame boards. Still looks great though.
Very helpful , this for sharing.
well done looks awesome
I'm installing one my self for a customer I'll send pic later,great job. from Unique Lawn Care Service LLC...
Well documented process and inspirational! Bravo!!!! How long from start to finish did it take? Do you mind sharing the cost for supplies?
DO YOU MIND SHARING THE COST?
Luke,
For some reason, there's no REPLY selection on your comment.
The putting green and chipping turf were purchased thru Costco. It's made by PreGra.
You can look on either of their sites for the specs. We used the BentGrass Putting Green and the Fescue.
Thanks for the comments. Feel free to contact me for any questions you may have.
Thank you for the input, I appreciate it.
Would you mind giving a ballpark cost for this project? I'm getting ready to retire and have plenty of space to do a project like this. Great job btw!
@@larryzimmerman1898 We had local contractors quote on it and they came in between $15-20K. However, they did provide some ideas that we implemented. Using Costco for the artificial turf and an area rockery that provides base and cover materials for many of the area golf courses, and doing all of the work ourselves we came in around $5K. That was about 7 years ago, so I’m sure it’d be more now. Good luck!
nice vid, makes me want to install
Freaking awesome dude! It looks like you know what you're doing. I have an indoor putting green that I ordered online. It's on my channel. It's great but I want one similar to yours. It'll be possible soon when I move to a bigger house.
Hi kjelsone - your video inspired me to undertake a similar project in my garden in north germany! Thanks very very much for such a great vid. I have got a point where I am not sure how to continue. The base is laid and Ive got a 2-3 inch loose layer of fines on top - but it won't compact! Maybe my expectations are wrong or Ive got the wrong materials (Its been hard to find the right translation for crusher fines but I think i got it in the end). I wet the fines and compacted them with a vibrating plate compacter but as soon as they dried they became very loose again - if I walk on them then the nice flat surface is disturbed. Help!!! How did you overcome this? I would really appreciate you feedback as right now I feel like giving up :-( Danke Schön! Chris
cheekymonkeyHH
I’m not sure if it’s a case of too thick of a layer of the fines or not. I did a much thinner layer, wetted it down, compacted it and repeated this cycle. With a 2-3 in layer, I’d guess that you may have a difficult time getting it properly moistened to compact correctly for the entire depth. He amount of vibration (and compression) that you’d need may be too much for the vibrating compactor to accomplish. This is just my personal opinion though. I’ve no experience that indicate that my thoughts are correct. Good luck and let me know if it helps and if you’ve got additional questions.
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I believe you are right. I think I badly miscalculated the top layer :-/ I will start raking it back and then I'll slowly compact it and then decide whether to add more layers or not. What a pain - my area is 150sqmeters - ca. 1500sq Feet so thats a lot of work coming up :-))
Once again thanks for your input.
Chris
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I believe you are right. I think I badly miscalculated the top layer :-/ I will start raking it back and then I'll slowly compact it and then decide whether to add more layers or not. What a pain - my area is 150sqmeters - ca. 1500sq Feet so thats a lot of work coming up :-))
Once again thanks for your input.
Chris
My works too. Used Avasva handbooks and build it with no problems.
Super nice
very impressive
That looks fantastic. Could I be cheeky and ask what it cost? Thanks you all did a great job.
Thanks. It's still looking good after over 5 years. We're using it more frequently now during the Covid-19 quarantine. The costs for materials (turfs, base rock, fines, framing, turf nails, cups, flags, etc.) came out to around $5000. I had quotes for the completed project from over $15k to $20k but decided to do it ourselves.
That’s a good price! Hard work but best keeping the £10-15 in your pocket.
If I wanted to raise parts of my fringe, say, a foot from the middle of the green, how would you recommend I go about that? I was thinking of just adding more dirt to the areas I wanted before putting down base rock, but I wanted a second opinion.
That would be quite a rise unless it's over a wide distance. The base rock and fines could form it OK, but I don't know that I'd rely on it maintaining the steep rise. Maybe you'd want to add concrete mix or something to make sure it holds better.
kjelsone
OK thanks! Yea, the middle of the green is 6 yards from the fringe. I'm planning on making it so that I can practice chipping from an upslope.
Great job. Thanks for the detailed video. What type of cups did you use? Were the final cups cemented in place with a dry mix? Could you detail how you got the cups level with the turf? I am going to do a very similar project in my backyard in a few weeks. Thanks
Did you nail the putting green? Or just the fringe? How is it holding up with all the rain we got recently in the Bay Area?
I end up nailing both the chipping and putting green. I could only find recommendations on green-to-green seams (glue). I don't have any of those.
The nails on the edge aren't really noticeable unless you are really looking for them.
It's held up well.
Hi, great video, but can you please tell me Where this turf was purchased and what are its specifications? Looks great by the way one of the best I've seen, and very informative.
Should add a bunker to the right of it as you have the space like a little links pot hole bunker would be perfect
bay area california? Those hills in the back look like fremont
How dose it hold up after a rain.
Tim Arellanes Since we're going through a record drought here in California, that's a little bit difficult to answer. However, since we put this in (Oct 2014) we did have a couple of significant days of rainfall. We used special care to try to give the putting green some drainage slopes to avoid standing water issues. I checked the green during/after the rains and it appeared to have ho problems at all. It may be different in an El Nino year though. Maybe we'll have one this year so I can report back on it then.
Cost is always the big question...
Can you give a ball park...
do you know what the total cost ended up being?
no drain system?
How long from the time finished, to the first blind flop shot from the other side of the fence? Would have been mission 1a for me lol
Rob, not too many from over the fence, but from all locations around the yard including over and around trees and over the pool.
How much did it cost in total to make the green?
joey kaesbauer The cost of both the putting green and chipping turf by PreGra thru Costco was about $3700. The cost of the base rock and fines will vary on where you get them. If you're in my area (south Silicon Valley) I can suggest providers. We did all of the labor ourselves so that saved us a lot of money. Let me know if you need more info.
kjelsone We live in Silicon Valley. Please provide installers. You can email me at guesswhat1000@yahoo.com.
What was the total cost?
Good job.
I am going to install one myself and wondering the overall cost of installation?
Even a rough estimate would be helpful and estimate of man hours to complete?
God loves the working man Happy 4th of JULY!!
The turf cost around $3700. Other materials will vary based on your application. Our total materials cost was around $5000. We did all the work ourselves, which saved between $10-15k for the project from the bids we got.
Where did you order the turf
I ordered it thru Costco.com. It's made by PreGra and sold in a 15 ft roll by the linear foot. There are multiple choices for density and turf length.
+kjelsone Thanks, what turf density and length did you use?
+Cooper Macy I believe it's in the video description.
wow i feel your pain, i did a tiny area and nearly died moving that rock
What was your final cost to this project?? THX
it is greatwork
How much did that cost????
See my comments below to Bad Apple Garage.
7:25 More wrist hinge needed.
sooooo..... it´s totaly flat? no chance of practicing how to read the brakes?
No, it is definitely not flat. It was designed first, for drainage and second to have breaks or rise/fall on most of the putts. We tested these breaks before putting down the turf with a mini basketball.
1 second in... Let's not get it started. I almost watched the video
Now charge your neighbors and host weekly tournaments to help make the money back! Then add a bunker!
can you just put concert with terf over it
Super Mario 64 music? :D
Nice
Love the music
Who’s dream
i need money that mean change
The filler music / background noise ended it for me. Don't know why people do that.
Sorry if you don't like the music. There is no voice, so try hitting mute.
Step one buy a house with a big backyard
Yes, that does help.
diy?...lol. you need a full crew and special equipment and skill set for this project
Mike, yes I have had a fair amount of construction experience, but the rest of my crew was mostly my son and wife. The only equipment I had to rent was the compactor and the power broom. Lot of sweat and hard work though.
$$$$$$$$$$
Most annoying use of music
In a youtube video goes too...
Music sucks, can't finish
its a foto-show. no video=no like
no drain system?
No specific drainage system. Since this is built above ground level, we didn't think we'd need it, we tried to design it so that there weren't any low areas for the rain to puddle. Plus the water will flow thru the turf to dissipate too. We'll see if El Niño causes any problems this winter.
+Jim Kjellsen Hi Jim, How did things go during the rains this month? I am in San Jose and planning to get started on my green as well, re-grading the area this weekend and trying to decide on drainage. Anything you would change now that you are a year+ in? Looks great. Thanks.
+rtisor we made sure that there were no lie areas in the green for water to accumulate. There was always a little slope to one of the sides to drain. We've had no problems with our rains causing any issues. Having it built above ground level helps too.