I guess people just don't like the price, brand and/or switches but at least Logitech has had low profile mechanical keyboards available for a while. Including a TKL model, not 65% though. And I am fairly sure I have seen a few other brands with them as well?
@@creesch yeah I had a while ago a 50% or 40% keyboard that used choc switches from some brand. I would have to look up to find it because I used it for less than a week but keyboards like that exist for sure
@@creesch Hexgears X-1 is a Kailh-based LP switch (dunno why he acts like Gaterons are the only LP). Also, the Logitech LP keyboards use Kailh's as well.
@@spdcrzy I used to worship clickies, cherry mx blues etc. I implore you to try thocky switches, like boba u4t or holy pandas. They will change your life.
It would be nice to see lab1 some set-up to measure the force feedback on the keys themselves, like a hist-and-resis curve. Imho, those graphs does a better job telling how you would expect the keys to feel.
From the actuation point, optical switches are not faster. If they were, it's not something humanly perceivable anyways. The advantage of optical switches is that they can potentially be made very smooth. Of course, that doesn't mean they are smooth. It all depends on the mold quality, tolerances, the materials used and if there is lube or not. Low-profile switches are notoriously bad for key feel, which is why I suspect this keyboard is only available in a clicky version. It overpowers the rest of the experience when you're trying to get a feel for the switch.
Well yes but actually no, the optical helps alleviate the bottleneck of the debounce delay needed for your keyboard to register one tap as actually one tap and not multiple because the small metal lip inside the switch bounces for a bit after the initial contact.
@@aazdu03 Debounce doesn't affect registration speed. The way debounce works, is that as soon as the electrical threshold is met, it counts as a press. Then, any other input from that key is ignored for the delay duration, which is usually 10ms but could be lower or higher. Once that delay is over, the key state is checked again to see if it should be changed. What this limits is the maximum frequency at which keys can be registered. At 10ms, you would need to actuate the switch around 100 times in one second to be negatively impacted by debounce delays. I don't know about you, but I'm a decently fast key spammer and the fastest I can do is closer to 10 per second, not 100.
@@poipoi300 Yeah, even drag clicking on a mouse you can only get ~50-60cps max if you're really good at it. I don't think it's humanly possible to click 100cps.
@@jonasgrill1155 I hadn't though of drag clicking, good one. Even though that doesn't reach the maximum frequency possible with debounce. I think it might be possible to miss some clicks, since at let's say 60cps, they're not timed at every 16.6ms perfectly. You might have 2 clicks much closer together in time than others over the whole second. Definitely interesting to think about. At that point I would say an input device like a wheel might be more preferable though hahaha.
This channel has Seriously been so fun to watch. Keeping in mind that this channel was created after Linus thought if retirement, it has been a hell of ride and so much fun indeed. Keep up the good work LMG, you guys are the best in the community and thank you for making us learn new things everyday across all the different channels. Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
I know clickies aren’t a thing for many people (I’m kinda neutral for all switch types) but I’ve also seen several reviews where low profile keyboards are actually preferred with clickies. Whereas tactiles and linears are said to be very underwhelming in low profile switches. Might give some low profile boards a try.
I have completely no idea why people care so much about the thickness of portable devices. Weight and cost are more important factors almost all the time. I usually don't care about a millimetre or two on the thickness, but every 100g I have to carry does make a difference.
Because you only have so much space in a backpack lol. I have to travel a lot for engineering work, and having a thin keyboard that doesn't take up a shit load of space makes it much easier. Plus, at this thickness it's much easier on your wrists like a laptop, and you don't need to pack a wrist rest
Awsome! Having Nic here with his knowledge about keyboards is a nice addition to this channel. Also, I like how he let Jony Horst have it a go. A different perspective from another different user base. I love how it looks but being a clicky user myself I feel there's a disconnect between how 'sleek' it looks yes how 'noisy' it sounds.
Didn't sound like he did much of the research on the project or expected appeals, so I'd say the opposite (like guessing how many Bluetooth devices it can connect and whatnot). I won't say I can review any better though.
Only thing that would have made this episode better was a spontaneous appearance of Luke durring the bit in the beginning about Kickstarter where they make him give another update on the ColeBar hammer
what I noticed instantly was the box/presentation looks a lot like Keychron's, but its nicer looking on the inside. the stickers are a bonus in my book
How thin a keyboard is does not even register when I buy one, it is the least important quality and aiming to have a thin keyboard is often a detriment to the quality.
for someone with wrist problems that struggles to hover their hands while typing, I need to either constantly use a wrist rest or opt for a lower profile keyboard. Thinness does matter for portability and ergonomic purposes sometimes
Just last week got myself the Keychron K3 with hot-swappable optical clickys. The boxes were basically nearly copies of each other :D One thing that the Vissles has and the K3 doesn't have is a dedicated Insert button (K3 has the dedicated non programmable RGB button instead). But I do like the form factor and the design of both, perfect companion for the work laptop. (I'm even daily driving it now on my desktop just to get accustomed to use the layout).
ABS is fine. While shine can be an issue and PBT holds up longer before there is an issue. The real problem is almost all off the shelf boards and especially those that support backlighting and RGB, is that they use painted Clear ABS and use laser ablation. This means that you will eventually wear through the paint and will get blochy or complete gone characters. Or their printed stickers (like logitech regular keyboards) the caps last longer but the characters will disappear.
I’m really exited for this and I’m sad I missed the kickstarter price. This keyboard is exactly what I need for my windows computer. I miss my Mac keyboard
Horst is so right. The legends offset a little bit upwards, but not all the way, looks bad. If they'd used deliberately top aligned legends, that'd be much better. Bothers me a lot more than the clickies (this message typed from Kaihl Box Jades, 😎).
"Only clicky" Says it like not all mechanical keyboards are super loud. Even with "quiet" brown switches, mechanical keyboards are super loud. Clicky is just louder.
I actually like when the letters aren't centered because my mother tongue isn't English and I also use a different Alphabet so I need the space to add the characters of my main language
$100 isn't bad at all! $140 would be a little steep even though it has some good features. I've been using a Keychron K6 with brown switches for several months now and really like it, it's hard to beat with it's price at $69 (heh). I know it's a personal preference...but if I'm going without a numpad I really like the 65% layout. TKL and 75% are just a tad too big, but if it's something I really like I'd consider a compromise. If I were looking for a new a keyboard now- 100 bucks for this one is a solid deal even with the layout.
Why dose he always have to explain himself "best I have ever done.... here" it make me question the integrity of his knowledge on this subject. Until these keyboard reviews I really really like this host!
I originally got a Logitech K810 as I wanted a small Bluetooth keyboard that was backlit, didn't have round keys (why round keys on so many keyboards??) and which could switch between devices that would fit nicely in my work bag. I got mine just as it was going EOL for around £80 at the time. This looks like a great alternative and at kick starter price not much more than I paid for mine.
If they made a tenkeyless version, I'd definitely buy one. Also, I couldn't really see the switch: Are they proprietary? Or can you swap out keycaps? It looked like you can't, but not sure.
At the beginning of the video he said it has optical switches. No idea if they're proprietary or not. As to the keycaps, I would be very surprised if you could on a keyboard that thin, since they're doing a lot of custom stuff to make it work.
Well damn, they managed to make it thinner than the HP Elite keyboard! Though the Elite is a wege shape so it's probably around 10mm at the thinnest point. It also has more of a laptop style key-feel
i mean, i get that it's small and they can't fit a reasonably sized battery in it but four days is just crap. i wouldn't consider a battery life under a month to be acceptable, personally. especially for $100.
The clicky keyboard trend is the worst thing to ever happen to people with auditory/ASD issues. It's like someone is chewing directly into your ear. So many people on streams etc are using them now it's hard to avoid.
Haha yeah. That sound is the one reason I have stopped watching streamers even if I liked the content. That sound from clicky keyboards is the worst especially some of the Corsair and Razer boards.
Me as I typed in my MX Keys: "thin? Not yet but for an optical mech, I guessed it might be" The only sad thing about this one is that - there's a LOT of very similar layout / model (that also comes in alu) pretty much in any online stores (all from China).
2:47 PLEASE DON"T SAY MANUALS ARE BORING. half of our IT problems could have been avoided only when people take the time to appreciate and read a manual.
It's pretty, but I feel like it's one of these ones that doesn't have software but only like key combinations to change rgb and stuff. I prefer software over key combinations 100x. And the clickys are an issue.
I was set on this keyboard until I saw the nuphy keyboard on here. I bought the nuphy and it's amazing to type on. I'm not sad at all that I don't got this keyboard
Plouffe... could you please make a video on how to find /build the perfect wireless mechanical SILENT keyboard? A detailed LTT video would be nice!I Preferably in 2 or 3 price tiers like best bang for buck, high end, and no compromises tiers. I would love to get a mechanical keyboard but I can't stand the noise! Even membrane keyboards drive me nuts! And yes I have psychological problems and most people don't care about noises or even like them, I understand that, please don't hate! Thank you!
The title should clarify that this is not just a wireless keyboard, it's mechanical, that's why all the buzz
I guess people just don't like the price, brand and/or switches but at least Logitech has had low profile mechanical keyboards available for a while. Including a TKL model, not 65% though.
And I am fairly sure I have seen a few other brands with them as well?
I have two optical low profile keychrons and would buy them again over this.
@@creesch yeah I had a while ago a 50% or 40% keyboard that used choc switches from some brand. I would have to look up to find it because I used it for less than a week but keyboards like that exist for sure
@@creesch Hexgears X-1 is a Kailh-based LP switch (dunno why he acts like Gaterons are the only LP). Also, the Logitech LP keyboards use Kailh's as well.
it isnt it is optical
“It’s not even a banana tip tall.”
This is the hard-hitting review journalism that I come to this channel for!
"Kickstarter is funded so it's safe" lol
Air umbrella flashbacks
@@benson4820 Yeah me personally it's The Fort.
Literally no reason to buy onto Kickstarter once it's funded
@@dundeedideley1773 you get it for a cheaper price when buying in through the Kickstarter
@@warbear0424 wait two months and it will be cheaper than the kickstarter, or copied by some random chinese brand and sold for half the price.
I am guessing they chose to place the characters directly over the led. Hence the off center.
But the light gets diffused so it wouldn't matter too much right ?
Couldn't they have centered the LED as well?
"is it an intentional decision that they kinda weighed it towards the top of the.. oh RGB" lmao
only clicky's is a major let down, especially if it is meant to be an alternative to a magic keyboard.
@@caramelfim2885 thanks for scamming me 😏
Are you kidding me? Clicky is the ONLY way to go.
@@spdcrzy not in an office
@@InCtrl WFH life bruh.
@@spdcrzy I used to worship clickies, cherry mx blues etc. I implore you to try thocky switches, like boba u4t or holy pandas. They will change your life.
2:43 James would like a word with you on your wrist extension typing posture.
It would be nice to see lab1 some set-up to measure the force feedback on the keys themselves, like a hist-and-resis curve. Imho, those graphs does a better job telling how you would expect the keys to feel.
From the actuation point, optical switches are not faster. If they were, it's not something humanly perceivable anyways. The advantage of optical switches is that they can potentially be made very smooth. Of course, that doesn't mean they are smooth. It all depends on the mold quality, tolerances, the materials used and if there is lube or not. Low-profile switches are notoriously bad for key feel, which is why I suspect this keyboard is only available in a clicky version. It overpowers the rest of the experience when you're trying to get a feel for the switch.
literally no one gives a shit
Well yes but actually no, the optical helps alleviate the bottleneck of the debounce delay needed for your keyboard to register one tap as actually one tap and not multiple because the small metal lip inside the switch bounces for a bit after the initial contact.
@@aazdu03 Debounce doesn't affect registration speed. The way debounce works, is that as soon as the electrical threshold is met, it counts as a press. Then, any other input from that key is ignored for the delay duration, which is usually 10ms but could be lower or higher. Once that delay is over, the key state is checked again to see if it should be changed. What this limits is the maximum frequency at which keys can be registered. At 10ms, you would need to actuate the switch around 100 times in one second to be negatively impacted by debounce delays. I don't know about you, but I'm a decently fast key spammer and the fastest I can do is closer to 10 per second, not 100.
@@poipoi300 Yeah, even drag clicking on a mouse you can only get ~50-60cps max if you're really good at it. I don't think it's humanly possible to click 100cps.
@@jonasgrill1155 I hadn't though of drag clicking, good one. Even though that doesn't reach the maximum frequency possible with debounce. I think it might be possible to miss some clicks, since at let's say 60cps, they're not timed at every 16.6ms perfectly. You might have 2 clicks much closer together in time than others over the whole second. Definitely interesting to think about. At that point I would say an input device like a wheel might be more preferable though hahaha.
This channel has Seriously been so fun to watch. Keeping in mind that this channel was created after Linus thought if retirement, it has been a hell of ride and so much fun indeed. Keep up the good work LMG, you guys are the best in the community and thank you for making us learn new things everyday across all the different channels. Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
I love how differently Jonathan looks at products
why, in 2021, is the banana for scale thing coming into the channel? i feel like i went back 10 years
I know clickies aren’t a thing for many people (I’m kinda neutral for all switch types) but I’ve also seen several reviews where low profile keyboards are actually preferred with clickies. Whereas tactiles and linears are said to be very underwhelming in low profile switches. Might give some low profile boards a try.
Every time you say "NuPhy" I don't think of keyboards. I hear "Newfie" and think of Atlantic Canadians.
I have completely no idea why people care so much about the thickness of portable devices. Weight and cost are more important factors almost all the time. I usually don't care about a millimetre or two on the thickness, but every 100g I have to carry does make a difference.
It's a marketing ploy, u literally isn't be able to the difference between the top 5 thinnest keyboards
Because you only have so much space in a backpack lol. I have to travel a lot for engineering work, and having a thin keyboard that doesn't take up a shit load of space makes it much easier.
Plus, at this thickness it's much easier on your wrists like a laptop, and you don't need to pack a wrist rest
Awsome! Having Nic here with his knowledge about keyboards is a nice addition to this channel. Also, I like how he let Jony Horst have it a go. A different perspective from another different user base. I love how it looks but being a clicky user myself I feel there's a disconnect between how 'sleek' it looks yes how 'noisy' it sounds.
someone doesn't watch glarses 😜
Didn't sound like he did much of the research on the project or expected appeals, so I'd say the opposite (like guessing how many Bluetooth devices it can connect and whatnot). I won't say I can review any better though.
@@IoriTatsuguchi this whole channel is about minimum research. You get what was advertised.
Jonathan attention to detail is so fascinating 🔥
Only thing that would have made this episode better was a spontaneous appearance of Luke durring the bit in the beginning about Kickstarter where they make him give another update on the ColeBar hammer
This was everything I want in a keyboard until he said clicky only major let down
Keychron.
what I noticed instantly was the box/presentation looks a lot like Keychron's, but its nicer looking on the inside. the stickers are a bonus in my book
Any time you bring out a wireless keyboard you SHOULD touch on the security side of things, don't want neighbors or random passers by keylogging me😤
Keychron K3 still king of low profile hot-swappable mechs
“They only come in clicky’s”
**puts away wallet**
How thin a keyboard is does not even register when I buy one, it is the least important quality and aiming to have a thin keyboard is often a detriment to the quality.
Welcome in the century of "The Smallest/Slimmest/Lightest" as a selling point.
I look for a thin keyboard because i find it more comfortable than using a wrist rest
@@fricki1997 the selling point of this one is the thinnest MECHANICAL keyboard, not just a regular chiclet style keyboard
This product is not for you then. It is very portable, which is a plus for many, but you don’t seem to care.
for someone with wrist problems that struggles to hover their hands while typing, I need to either constantly use a wrist rest or opt for a lower profile keyboard. Thinness does matter for portability and ergonomic purposes sometimes
I really like clicky switches, so I might consider picking up this keyboard at some point.
Leave it for the Mac-Reviews to notice 2 things the first thing they do
1. Wheres my command!?
2. I like the font
"Cheaper if you kickstart it" but they release the video a day after the funding window ends.
00:35 wait you edited the name on the box AND THE MOVED IT TOO
like damn, gj, that was fun to notice
You know what's thinner than 16 millimeters?
Me:(looks down)
*Mine*
Just last week got myself the Keychron K3 with hot-swappable optical clickys. The boxes were basically nearly copies of each other :D
One thing that the Vissles has and the K3 doesn't have is a dedicated Insert button (K3 has the dedicated non programmable RGB button instead). But I do like the form factor and the design of both, perfect companion for the work laptop. (I'm even daily driving it now on my desktop just to get accustomed to use the layout).
Oh yeah, even the leather carry case on the KS page is a carbon copy of the Keychron one :D
This looks like the best of both worlds. Thin enough to carry in the laptop slot of your backpack, but mechanical. Are they making an ISO version?
I want a full size version of this SO bad
4 days of battery for a keyboard.... Doesn't sound very useful, unless you charge like almost every day...
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That's with the backlight off too. But I guess that's the trade-off you deal with for it being so thin
ABS is fine. While shine can be an issue and PBT holds up longer before there is an issue. The real problem is almost all off the shelf boards and especially those that support backlighting and RGB, is that they use painted Clear ABS and use laser ablation. This means that you will eventually wear through the paint and will get blochy or complete gone characters. Or their printed stickers (like logitech regular keyboards) the caps last longer but the characters will disappear.
I’m really exited for this and I’m sad I missed the kickstarter price. This keyboard is exactly what I need for my windows computer. I miss my Mac keyboard
His way of measuring stuff with a banana really reminds me of Americans measuring stuff. “Yeah that’s about three quarters of my foot”
"Very thin", clicky keys and 4 day battery life.
Me: Laughs in Apple magic keyboard.
A new editor has joined the house. Yay!! Good luck to you.
Damn that editor really did Endless Clicking on this video!
So can't buy the kickstarter anymore and can't preorder on their website either? Cool, guess I'll just forget about it then.
Horst is so right. The legends offset a little bit upwards, but not all the way, looks bad. If they'd used deliberately top aligned legends, that'd be much better. Bothers me a lot more than the clickies (this message typed from Kaihl Box Jades, 😎).
If it had a volume knob on the side it would be perfect for me
"Only clicky"
Says it like not all mechanical keyboards are super loud.
Even with "quiet" brown switches, mechanical keyboards are super loud.
Clicky is just louder.
there are silent switches… like roselios or silent alpacas
This 84 key layout is the best really. I do miss my "right click" between fn and ctrl, but yeah at least we can still right click with the mouse lol
We got a keyboard guy, a camera guy and a laptop guy.
He sounds like Squidward kind of like hamz the Gaming RUclipsr from TK Team Kaliber
I like Cherry MX Blue because clicky. CLICKY GOOD!
give ploufe a cookie for going through an entire video using a clicky keyboard
americans: so this is about one and a half bananas long
I actually like when the letters aren't centered because my mother tongue isn't English and I also use a different Alphabet so I need the space to add the characters of my main language
I Hope this banana for scale culture extends to the main channel I love it
$100 isn't bad at all! $140 would be a little steep even though it has some good features. I've been using a Keychron K6 with brown switches for several months now and really like it, it's hard to beat with it's price at $69 (heh). I know it's a personal preference...but if I'm going without a numpad I really like the 65% layout. TKL and 75% are just a tad too big, but if it's something I really like I'd consider a compromise.
If I were looking for a new a keyboard now- 100 bucks for this one is a solid deal even with the layout.
My ears interpreted "slope angle" as "slow bangle" for some reason and now it won't leave my brain.
Plouffe is never happy about his typing test result.
This man just typed a speed test at 112 words per minute and acted like it was nothing
Thanks for the unboxing, Lew.... oh wait
that looks a lot thicker than the Apple wireless keyboard with keypad which I think is perfect... and less than 11mm thick
But this is mechanical unlike Apple's which is classic scissors.
"when you bottom out it feels squishy" Giggity
The low-profile keyboard Apple SHOULD make.
i saw a keyboard thinner at goodwill also wireless
Why would thinness be a desirable characteristic in a keyboard? I mean, they clearly went out of their way to make this one thin, but...why?
Wondering what kind of keyboard he uses on a regular basis. I know he uses brown switches but not much else
I loved how he casually flipped us all off.
Banana measurement's is the new standard
Why dose he always have to explain himself "best I have ever done.... here" it make me question the integrity of his knowledge on this subject. Until these keyboard reviews I really really like this host!
It feels like somebody wants to make apple keyboard into mechanical
Keep giving us keyboard content but more custom stuff!!
Review the Razer Huntsman Analog please!
Is there a full size version?
Need numpad and other keys for work
I really don't like that the keys with symbols are next to one another as opposed to on top of one another.
Can't believe y'all haven't reviewed the hhkb yet
Ehh people in usa have football (handrun-ball) fields and Canadians have bananas. JUST MAKE IT RIGHT AND USE METRIC SYSTEM!
What? Only 4 days? My apple keyboard can last 2 weeks in a single charge.
it really looks like an IMAC keyboard it really does
I originally got a Logitech K810 as I wanted a small Bluetooth keyboard that was backlit, didn't have round keys (why round keys on so many keyboards??) and which could switch between devices that would fit nicely in my work bag. I got mine just as it was going EOL for around £80 at the time. This looks like a great alternative and at kick starter price not much more than I paid for mine.
If they made a tenkeyless version, I'd definitely buy one. Also, I couldn't really see the switch: Are they proprietary? Or can you swap out keycaps? It looked like you can't, but not sure.
At the beginning of the video he said it has optical switches. No idea if they're proprietary or not.
As to the keycaps, I would be very surprised if you could on a keyboard that thin, since they're doing a lot of custom stuff to make it work.
Talks about how the manual has dimensions, but then measures it with a banana
Well damn, they managed to make it thinner than the HP Elite keyboard! Though the Elite is a wege shape so it's probably around 10mm at the thinnest point. It also has more of a laptop style key-feel
i mean, i get that it's small and they can't fit a reasonably sized battery in it but four days is just crap. i wouldn't consider a battery life under a month to be acceptable, personally. especially for $100.
Build quality looks awesome, but gutted I missed the Kickstarter
The clicky keyboard trend is the worst thing to ever happen to people with auditory/ASD issues. It's like someone is chewing directly into your ear. So many people on streams etc are using them now it's hard to avoid.
Haha yeah. That sound is the one reason I have stopped watching streamers even if I liked the content. That sound from clicky keyboards is the worst especially some of the Corsair and Razer boards.
This is considered thin? I've got a cheapo no-name wireless keyboard about the same size
Me as I typed in my MX Keys: "thin? Not yet but for an optical mech, I guessed it might be"
The only sad thing about this one is that - there's a LOT of very similar layout / model (that also comes in alu) pretty much in any online stores (all from China).
2:47 PLEASE DON"T SAY MANUALS ARE BORING. half of our IT problems could have been avoided only when people take the time to appreciate and read a manual.
Still rocking Logitech K810 FTW
i expected something thinner, now i'm sad
That's pretty impressive but I don't like how there's no feet to raise it up.
There's a thinner wireless board (5mm) but it's not mechanical
yo u cant even back the kick starter anymore
It's pretty, but I feel like it's one of these ones that doesn't have software but only like key combinations to change rgb and stuff.
I prefer software over key combinations 100x.
And the clickys are an issue.
I would love to get it with a German QWERTZ Layout.
So banana come in different sizes :)
So in a nutshell it's a membrane...
Do you like RGB Mechanical keyboards?
Do you like the Magic Keyboard but you like gaming?
We brought the -Magic- this!
This as a full size would be nice
the speed benefit of optical is GONE if it's wireless.
mechanical should be it the title, my Master Key is 5mm thin
I was set on this keyboard until I saw the nuphy keyboard on here. I bought the nuphy and it's amazing to type on. I'm not sad at all that I don't got this keyboard
wheres james, the master keyboard expert of lmg!?
Plouffe... could you please make a video on how to find /build the perfect wireless mechanical SILENT keyboard?
A detailed LTT video would be nice!I
Preferably in 2 or 3 price tiers like best bang for buck, high end, and no compromises tiers.
I would love to get a mechanical keyboard but I can't stand the noise! Even membrane keyboards drive me nuts!
And yes I have psychological problems and most people don't care about noises or even like them, I understand that, please don't hate!
Thank you!