This is the Most Unfair State For Car Owners
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2020
- One state stands above the rest when it comes to being unfair to drivers, and it’s not California. Join Nolan as he explores the tactics some states use to fine drivers hundreds of millions of dollars every year! It’s NOT cool!
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This is why I had to stop making car videos in Virginia.
Great place to grow up - not an awesome place to be a car lover.
Iluv your vids
I didnt even know you are from Virginia! that's awesome.
Yup
This. I love horsepower, but it's legitimately impossible to use it anywhere here.
Gotta agree I live in Virginia Beach and there’s not a lot of car events
Virginia: 55
Texas: 85
German Autobahn: The speed of light.
Autobahn: yes
The sky: not today. 700,000,000,000,000,000,000 v/ps
Lol
*laughs in Italian*
I want to click like but I don't want disturb the figure "69".
Country roads
Take me home
To the place
I belong...
Around Virginia
Wasted LOL 😂
Which is West Virginia.
You can still go to West Virginia in order to go around Virginia
Best comment.
Golden!
I've lived in Virginia for 44 years. I was ticketed for 10 miles over the limit after they LOWERED the speed limit from 45 to 35, temporarily, on a ¼ mile section of road. There was not any construction, nothing. It was simply lowered. The limit was then raised back to 45 before my scheduled court date even arrived. I was still prosecuted to the full fine! From the ages of 17 - 19, I would be pulled over “randomly” and my car would be searched for drugs and weapons. This would happen about once every two months. One time the cops, being frustrated not finding anything illegal, seized my stereo, amps, and speakers claiming they were stolen. I had to go to court with the receipts and a lawyer to get them returned. Finally, I wound up keeping a list of dates I’d be pulled over and would hand it to the officers along with the registration. The officers would ask what the list of dates was and when I told them they stopped asking to search the car and started saying, “drive safely and have a nice day”. I’ve never had a Virginia Police Officer help me. I’ve only encountered negative interactions with them. Topping it all off, “to serve and protect” is no longer on the graphics of police cars in my little slice of Virginia.
Va suck ass to drive in. I' have only had one """"decent"""" interaction with a cop. this place sucks.
They can’t go in your car unless you let them
It’s good to know the laws
@@trevor8273 Police useally come up with some bs excuse to use probable cause which than they can search your car. Its really stupid the way thats exploited but they do it and get away with it anyways.
@@trevor8273 Of course this is true but seeming like the cops are sort of corrupt, they could easily say “oh i smell marijuana” or “i see bags in your car”
a lot of states have banned this type of search though. I’m not sure if Virgina is one of them.
@@jrhillbilly6697 can’t do it without warrant
I remember reading about a city in Texas that had a dead person signing the “verified” red light camera tickets, the system was automated with a rubber stamped signature. It was only discovered when another policeman, that knew the deceased, received a ticket signed by his dead friend. They were also caught having shorter timings on red lights with cameras than ones without, resulting in more tickets, but they weren’t the only ones caught doing it. This is why people have trust issues.
Damn that's crooked.
My city set up red light cameras a few years ago. Turns out nobody paid them, so the city lost millions and wound up just taking them down. The private company that rented the cameras was gonna make most of the profit anyways. Fuckin crooks
I heard some would also randomly alter the yellow light time, so perhaps 1 in 10 times it would be abnormally short, so you would drive through expecting it to stay yellow, but it would change red.
What’s even more disturbing is the red light camera companies can’t enforce suspending a license and also can’t issue warrants for unpaid tickets. So many people pay the fines thinking they have to.
One of my buddies received 8 tickets from cameras and refused to pay them after he learned from the ticket givers themselves that they couldn’t enforce him to pay them.
Actually, the constant nagging and stealing by police in the US is a major reason why I moved to Mexico.
100 People in VA lost their license by the time this video ended.
Eduardo Clavijo cepeda I don’t what you did, if you just guessed or actually did math Butt I believe you
hahah its true
The mathematician in me bets that you're not joking. That's insane.
According to me, if the all viewers finish this video after one viewer finished the video , there would be 119704400 People lost their licenses
What if I just pause it
my first memory of VA was their "speed monitored by aircraft" sign. my second memory was leaving.
I see that sign every day😭
I miss when you played ball
That's one you usually DON'T have to worry about. If you take it to court, they have to have both the officer in the aircraft and the officer on the ground testify in court. It's am empty threat.
They have those signs in every state. Don’t act like its just Virginia
We got em in Maryland too. Always made me laugh.
My wife once got a speeding ticket while visiting family in VA for doing 70 in a 50. We are from NJ so she needed to return to VA several months later to appear in court. A few things we found out about ticketing in VA. #1. Do not go more than 19 MPH above the speed limit, because anything 20 MPH or more, and your moving violation turns into a MISDEMEANOR. You read that right. A misdemeanor. So it becomes a criminal offense, punishable up to 12 months in jail, with fines. #2. The police TARGET out of state plates, especially ones from NY and NJ. #3. Even if you're polite to the police officer, unless you are bleeding and/or currently in cardiac arrest, you WILL receive a ticket if you are stopped. Not worth a conversation or argument. Just hand over your documentation and wait for your summons. Moral of the story? Avoid VA.
I live in va. I once had a cop ask me to raise my voice and then yell at me
For raising my voice
540 OffRoad F in the chat
Had to take off phoneholder from windshield because iT Is "ilLeGaL"
I honestly doubt that
Raging Bullet dude i’m friends with more cops than any non cop here I have nothing but respect for law enforcement but this one cop is the biggest pos i’ve ever met
Time for you to post this on reddit!
The reason why it's such a safe state to drive and it's because nobody's got a driver's license they don't want to crash into each other 🤣
or they don't report any accident that would cost them less than the fines/arrests of dealing with a cop.
when your inbreed
Except in Richmond, you’d think everyone was a nascar driver
@@thekoopatroopa funny cause same here in Richmond, Tx
You joke, but I think that's probably the case. I refuse to believe that slowing drivers from an instant kill speed to a slower instant kill speed improves safety on the highway. That or the differences between states are just too negligible, since I notice none of the raw numbers were given to us. Regardless, I'd like to see fatalities per accident, since speed doesn't actually cause any accidents. It just makes an accident that would've happened worse
As a Virginia native living in a small town I once saw a police officer in a Ford Explorer sitting in between two Ford Explorers at a dealership running radar for people that passed by as part of a speed trap.
So? What's so hard about driving within the speed limit? I still don't understand how it's unfair to be ticketed for that. I get passed by packs of cars traveling at least 20 over the limit all the time. Why shouldn't they be ticketed?
@spuriouseffect7621 It wouldn't be if most speed limits weren't 10 to 20 miles below what they should be
@@BobBob-eb4io The answer to that is petitioning the government to change the speed limit, not breaking the law because you don't agree with it. smh
@@spuriouseffect i never said i speed but i certainly see why other people do
@@BobBob-eb4io So what are you saying? That you understand why people break the law and put other people in danger, so we should simply not enforce the law?
Funny story: I live on a naval base and got suspended for speeding, the officer said I was going 50 in the 25, wasn’t even able to plead my case, turns out that speed was fabricated so that the cops could meet their monthly quota
They don’t have quotas
they gotta collect the tax they are just tax collectors. cowardly ones at that.
Move and tell us govment so they can get shut down
@@mrticklenuts2124 not on paper
@@mrticklenuts2124ohh sweet summer child 😊
Virginia Natives: “it’s true. All of it.”
No. There's a couple speed traps, but otherwise Virginia is the best place to drive.
@@robertshort9487 Where do you live, cuz if you’re in the Richmond area this is all absolutely facts.
@@xAfroMetalHead1990x along 81
I'm VA I can confirm this. The roads are really nice but the speed limit is too low.
If people would just pay attention to the signs then nobody would hate Virginia just because they are painfully oblivious
This is why I drive a jeep, you feel like you're going 100, but you're really only going 45mph
😂😂
Lol. So TRUE
Can confirm. Especially with the crosswind, my wrangler liked to do the auto lane change.
same with lifted 98 tahoe
I will never own a jeep, the crumple like a cardboard box in an accident
I live in VA and this is pretty accurate. The one thing you didn't mention, though, is the insane amount of state troopers we have just for "traffic enforcement". I like to call them road pirates.
Depending on the county/city the local cops can be pretty bad too. I once had a county cop pull me over because he said I wasn't wearing my seat belt, when there was no way he could have seen whether I was wearing it or not. And I was actually wearing my seat belt while I was driving, but when I stopped my car I had to unbuckle to get my registration out of the glove compartment because my seatbelt would lock up even when I wasn't breaking hard. So I know for a fact he pulled me for no reason, and I called him out on his bullshit. Then he gave me a ticket for having an air freshener hanging from my mirror instead, which is apparently illegal in VA.
@@Npero1 us being disgusted by their behavior is a sacrifice they are willing to make because they get money.
My story: active duty stationed in Virginia most of my career (other than deployments overseas). One time, I received a wreckless driving by speeding ticket on a highway exit ramp. The cop wrote the ticket as though the speed limit was the ramp suggested speed - not the actual speed limit. By the actual speed limit, I was doing 2 mph over. Yeah, two - and written a wreckless driving. I was so infuriated that I did hire an attorney (and shelled out almost 3k for it) to fight it even citing Virginia's own driving code as well as the DMV manuals. The cop didn't have a leg to stand on and it was quickly apparent that he wrote a ticket for something that wasn't even illegal. So, what did the judge do about it? He dropped it from a wreckless to an improper driving. Yeah. lol. You can't make this shit up. The judge, literally, saw that I was barely speeding according to state law - and still pushed the issue as far as he could (cause he knew that he let the wreckless go, I'd have make a big scene out of it to whoever would pay me enough attention. That includes the media if they would have.) I had my entire military chain-of-command in the back of the courtroom, by the way. The ticket was finally dismissed, however, after the judge asked for my driving record. I had already pulled my own out-of-state record and had it certified and mailed to me, previously, so I handed it over. It was impressive. Clean as a whistle - though, I had been driving since I was 15. Not withstanding this, the officer shows the judge "my" driving record that he had pulled - which contrasted, drastically, to my own certified copy. What gives? Well, the cop pulled the wrong record. He pulled the record of someone with my same last name but a different first name (I actually knew the guy from high school, ironically) and his record had TONS of infractions. So, was the officer just incredibly inept as his job or was he intentionally trying to manipulate the system to receive a harsher punishment for me? Who knows. Honestly, who cares. Either way, he deserves to be fired, in my opinion. Certainly, you can't trust him to do what he's paid to do, regardless. He still works there to my knowledge, though, and so does the corrupt judge. Newport News, Virginia, you are garbage. Yep...
They didn't mention the 81+ MPH reckless law. If you're going 81 even in a 70 in Virginia, you automatically get a reckless. Personal experience.
This state is an absolute driving hell hole.
That's why to just tell the cop to fuck off if you're from out of state and just dont pay the ticket, nothing they can do if you never show back up in Virginia
In PA, any speeding of 20 or more over gets your car impounded and you get a ride to jail plus a hefty fine and suspension. Which is hilarious because if you do anything less then 20 over on the Turnpike, you’re getting run over.
And if you get a reckless driving ticket you can’t get a CDL, and if you have a CDL it’s gone.
Its actually if you're doing 80 MPH on the dot. Not 81+
As soon as we saw the video title, all of us driving enthusiasts said, "Virginia".
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Hi Walter
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What do I gotta do to get you to make me a helmet!?
Glad I'm not the only one thinking that lmao.
Also, as someone who drives in Baltimore frequently, indid find it odd the cameras were snapping pics like they're Instagram models. Though Baltimore drivers are pretty bad
As a former VA driver, I can confirm. There's an other little town on 95 called Emporia ( a main pass through when heading South to FL, GA, and the Carolinas) that it probably the best known by VA drivers for speed traps. I literally saw 5 cruisers lined up after coming over a hill one time. I live in Japan now and I have yet to see a speed trap. It is a much less stressful environment to drive in.
I got off 95 one morning in/near Emporia for route 58. I saw a state trooper, an Emporia cop, a county sheriff, and a DOT enforcement car in the first mile or two.
Somebody finally called it out. 460 is bad too.
Emporia
Finally, someone mentioned 58, need to drive this to get to my grandparents, its hell every thanksgiving.
I currently live in Norfolk, Virginia, and avoiding speed traps is kind of an artform. I like to go fast and I always know where speed traps usually are. Thankfully, I've never been pulled over. The 55 mph restriction is abysmally slow, especially when my morning commute is already 30+ minutes. Generally, where I am, cops don't really care if you go 5 to 10 mph over. But not a day goes by where I don't see someone on the shoulder with a cop behind them. Truly is a shit state for drivers
You forgot to mention that in Virginia anything above 80 is automatic reckless. So 81 in a 70 will get you a reckless driving charge
Ever seen what a body looks like after smashing into something going 80?
@@Kshea44ify bout the same as 70
Thought Anything over 25 over the limit... Example 50 in a 25.... Or 85 in a 60
Guess it's 20, it's 25 in mass
@@Kshea44ify 45mph can be lethal what's your point?
Speed traps seem like something you would exploit in a city building game.
Like spamming toll roads in cities skylines 😂
Lol ikr
@@Popeye-uw6jb 😂ez revenue
Now i wanna try that
@@Popeye-uw6jb Toll booth spam isn't even the most stupidly effective way of making money in that game. Troll parks (basically, paths that are turned into park zones with pedestrians needing to go through multiple gates) can make even more money, not just for the space, but overall. There was one time I made a troll park that made over $1 million/week. The exploit is most useful at key public transit transfers (e.g. going from train stations) or along convenient, popular walking paths.
I lived 2 years in Virginia (specifically in Virginia Beach, from 2019 to 2021) and I was catched by one of those damm state trooper with his speed laser gun. I was driving at 70 mph and I-264 just 2 miles from my former house. Got 2.000 $ (plus 1 year in jail 😖) reckless driving ticket, my court date and everything...
I hired a traffic lawyer 5 min after the trooper stopped me, and he literally saved my life: the judge gave me a case dismissed!
Yep same here same location....for others reading this, LAWYER UP you will go to jail if you dont. Judge dropped mine to 10MPH over.
Yep same thing here. Was on 64 just past the 264 eastern interchange. Lawyer saved me. I'm convinced the lawyers are also big fans of these speed traps because they make a fortune off of people with reckless tickets. It's a win for everyone except the drivers.
Utter nonsense.
As a current VA resident with 3 driving on suspended license charges..this video hit close to home!
You forgot the second part of that Reckless Driving law: 80 is automatically reckless driving. So, if the speed limit on a section of highway is 70 and you are doing 10 over and get pulled over, you get that reckless driving also.
bbmikej agreed. I travel on 66 and 81 to go between DC and college and being limited to 80 is t h e w o r s t. Not to mention the speed limit drops to 65 or even 60 around some towns.
Exactly! On the longer 2-lane highways what happens is you end up with people being unable to pass tractor trailers and then traffic bunches up, visibility is reduced and it all goes to shit.
At least Maryland has 85 for reckless driving
I'll pray for you ok.
Makes me feel luckier being in NY. We have low speed limits compared to the rest of the country, but at the same time traffic doesn't care and routinely does 75-80 anyways lol
Man, I was going 20 over in Indiana one time and was PASSED by a cop who just continued to drive like he didn't have a care in the world lol
It happened the same to me, only i got passed by a motorcycle being casually followed by a cop car at +30 over the limit
good old indiana
@@Vits2001 I think we were there at the same time.
@@samuelmoore8154 The cop car just passed the motorcycle like nothing and kept speeding away lmao
Same in Oklahoma
I got a ticket mailed to me from Baltimore, and when I looked into it the cameras have to be calibrated. When I looked at my specific camera, it hadn't been calibrated in over 2yrs. When I brought that up to have it dropped, they sent me a pdf with an "updated" camera calibration that was dated properly. I never paid it and it got dropped.
I live in VA. I've been pulled over 40+ times but only got 2 tickets in my life. They pull me for nothing, then let me go when they don't anything worth going to court about. (example: something hanging from my rear view)
As a Virginian, and a young driver, no only does it help the politicians, but getting a suspended license also is a gold mine for insurance companies. Getting a suspended license makes you "a liability" and as we all know, being a liability makes your insurance rates go through the roof 🙏
I wouldn’t have even thought of that.
Who would have known that driving very fast? Failing to signal and running stop signs would increase your risk of damageing your vehicle? And would statistically increase the likelihood of a insurance company having to pay claim? Wierd....
Come on man. I'm not judging you. I myself am not a law biding driver all the time. But if I get my license suspended from a traffic violation. I can't reasonably blame the insurance company. I would be mad about yeah. But it wasn't their fault.
@@mikefranklin70 @Mike Franklin Who would have known that a comment riddled with spelling and punctuation errors and pretends not to be condescending would be just that and miss the point entirely. Do you suggest that laws written by politicians would make you a bad driver and should justly increase your cost of insurance? It's not like corruption exists at all and a law saying you drove in a reckless manner could be designed to cost you money instead of keep citizens safe.
Come on man. I'm not judging you. But think about it using the information presented to you.
@@goblin4911 Who would have thought that a man that does not have a good argument, would focus on (real or imagined) spelling and punctuation errors? With to healthy dose of character assination? All to obfuscate the point. And likely showing his age. By blaming all manor of perceived bias and injustices to get out of taking responsibility for his actions.....
Son, these penalties and laws in most cases are based on studies, evidence and court histories. I understand you may not like them. You simply don't have a basic understanding of economics. Insurance is a risk management business. Kinda akin to gambling. And just like Vegas, these odds are gone over with a fine tooth comb. To make sure at the end of the day. The company makes money and pays it's employees. While remaining competitive, to get new business.
Don't like it? You are free to move or change companies. Start your own insurance company. Or petition the government for change. But no you want to just whine about how unfair everything is. And how it isn't your fault.
How was that? Was the condescension apparent enough for you? It was intentional, because you aren't as smart as you think you are.
My work is done here. Enjoy!
@@mikefranklin70 Frankly that is the plain old cold equations shit. Let's face it insurance companies don't give a shit about you they do care what you will cost them on average and will charge you a premium on top of that. It is a math game and insurance customers are just a number within said game.
Me: Goes 10 over the limit in Virginia.
Police: So you have chosen... death.
psh, yeah cause people are passing you going 20 over.
Well if you go over 80mph it's reckless driving so if the speed limit is 70 mph (which some are) all you have to do is 10 over
Avrage Gamers growing up in Maryland and traveling through Virginia often I have learned to only drive the speed limit. You not about to catch me driving 3 hours to go to court.
Uhh real talk. I got 75 in 55 got reckless. Fought it in court spent almost 900 for everything. And then got ticket week after court was done for 70 in 55. 5 yr clean driving all wiped clean.
In NY if you go 10 over the speed limit it’s instant kill
Just moved from CA to VA. Speed traps are significantly more prevalent here! And we frequently say to each other "why is this speed limit so low for this road?!" Also, it makes locals drive faster because they feel "they know the roads" AND likely won't be pulled over with VA Plates - so it causes unsafe road conditions.
We have a local road that kills about 2 people each over about 10 miles. They lowered the speed limit to 50 but folks often speed and kill themselves.
Georgia has several state statutes that help reduce or prevent "speed traps." Laws like the vehicle being used (police car) to detect speed must be visible from 500 feet (doesn't apply to Georgia State Patrol), and police can't use speed detection within a certain distance of a change in speed limit e.g., you get a short grace distance when the speed limit changes before police can use radar or lidar to detect your speed.
But all Georgia cops parents are brother and sister
And all the police in your area are regularly serviced by you
I’m from GA… GA and SC are pretty chill and fun to drive. You rarely see a speed trap except in Millen
Nolen: “everybody likes to speed”
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"The State Of Virginia has flagged this video"
VA does even recognize WV lol so i won't be surprised
Wow dude that sucks.
Virginia is going to introduce a law to cap the resolution of this video to 144p
Not only this, but in VA they also intentionally hike up your alleged MPH at the time of the incident in order to make more profit, say you were going 66 in a 55mph zone, they will charge you for 74mph(because its a certain dollar amount per mile over the speed limit).
Funny I just got pulled yesterday for doing 73 in 45 when my speedo said I was going 61 at most
Something you forgot. VA has never, and probably will never, figure out how to remove snow from a road. I grew up in PA and I used to think MD did a shitty job clearing roads in the winter. Until I started working in the VA side of DC. I drove to work one morning. The MD beltway was wet, with a tiny bit of slush between lanes here and there. I crossed the American Legion Bridge into VA and road conditions began to deteriorate. By the time I got to the Dulles Toll Road, the beltway was completely snow covered. And I saw the same thing driving home. There was 6" of snow on the VA beltway, but as soon as I crossed the Legion Bridge, the road was just wet.
As a Virginian, as soon as I say the name of this video, I knew you were going to say Virginia.
David Peterson Comedy That’s why waze is your best friend :)
As much as i hear people hate driving in Virginia, ive never experienced anything that bad, and i grew up in Richmond
me too
Lmao he said as s virgin I knew you were gonna say Virginia
@@GamingOfRiv3ter I do know over here by ashland and short Pump its bad, even more for non white people.
I live in Northern Virginia, I have to go through this EVERYDAY.
Noah Gonzalez Same
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That's crazy mah nigga
But I don't remember asking.
Probably the reason it's so safe is that 1 in 6 drivers are paranoid as hell they're gonna get arrested if they get stopped for so much as a missed signal.
I can't believe you did an episode about speed traps in Virginia and didn't mention they have those turnaround spots in the woods with perfect cover for hiding every 5 miles or something
As a former VA police officer I can confirm all of this lol. There’s a reason I’m no longer working in that state.
Fuck VA.
Because you have a soul?
God bless your soul with your dream car!
@@kojack635 I heard a car journalist was sent to jail for speeding in Virginia. So I thought he was going to mention the incarceration part. Maybe they changed that? I heard that story a few years ago.
SI0AX it was a Chevy employee in a new zl1.
Being from VA and living here all my life, I always thought that tons of speed traps were just normal. Just another reason to hate this state
don't even get started with the safety, emissions, and the totally unfair property tax laws that judges on what you drive and which county you live in. I used to own an '88 cougar and most shops I took to once(and never again) likes to reject it for dumb reasons i.e. "loose electrical cabling" or my driver door's loose handle problem which requires a donor door to fix; meanwhile, other drivers next to me at the stoplight in their banged up hoopties get legally registered and seem not never get pulled over.
I’m your northern neighbor, your state is weird af when it comes to traffic laws.
All the other states dont like your state
Blame Government and the tyrants in that said Government...every state is slowly becoming similar...
Just look at your Second Amendment across the nation, every state that enforces gun legislation usually comes after every other hobby and interest people have later on.
NC (at least in the part I'm in?) is just as bad. During some months you will see speed traps every mile or so down main roads. Luckily, most cops here aren't going to write you a ticket for up to 5 over, bit 6 over and they will make you regret it. 15 over and you're screwed. 30 over and you might as well move to a different state.
There was an entire town that was a speed trap close to where I grew up. They regularly impound vehicles like modified corvettes, mustangs, suvs and even an old iroc. The state finally received enough complaints that the IG was forced to audit the town… only a few of the cops and politicians were given probation the rest were sent to prison and the town was bankrupted.
… so at least that story has a happy ending.
There are sections of highways in Virginia where a 55 MPH zone drops to a 25 MPH zone. The good part is some of these area's where the speed drops the sign is obscured by a tree or bush. The police sit right after the sign so they can get you quick. My brother-in-law from Georgia has gotten tickets twice in Virginia. The bad part is that he got caught speeding both times in the same town.
As a driver in south Hampton roads, I can confirm that the 55 mph limit is bogus. No one follows it. Why is a four lane highway limited to 55?
I feel your pain. I commute Suffolk to Williamsburg often.
Highway here in Indonesia had a measly 50-55 mph limit which almost none here abide to anyway
Heck, even the police casually blasted pass 70
Noah’s Narley Nvideos I’ve gotten a ticket for going 66 in a 55 on 64.
Yep, 55 on a highway where I can do 80 and completely forget about it
Because revenue
"SpeEd LimIt EnForCeD bY AirCrAfT"
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If you know you know! Lol
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Its bullshit they haven’t used that in years
Yea that one makes me laugh
I've only ever been pulled over for speeding once and it was in that EXACT spot in Hopewell....
I always thought this was total tin foil hat... When I was pulled over, there had been two cars pacing each other in the left two lanes, going 10-15 under the speed limit. Then for no damn reason the one pulled ahead of the other and opened the lane. The rest of us floored it to get around them, and I was the last car in the line (also out of state plate) so I got nabbed the cop went in hard with the "I could be sending you to jail speech but that he was going to just put it down as speeding." I got home to NC and called a couple of Richmond law offices which advertised traffic cases, and was basically told I got lucky and to just pay the speeding fine.
I won't lie I was speeding, A bunch of us were to get around the slow ass cars, but I always wondered why they cleared the lane right then when they hadn't for like 20 miles. I'm genuinely curious if it was entrapment and the cops exacerbating the situation to prime the trap.
In Colorado I got caught in a speed trap and the officer originally put me down as reckless driving and a ticket that would have been a felony charge in the state. Luckily, through some politeness and honesty with the city attorney, I got it reduced to a simple ticket that just had me pay a fine.
I’m from VA and what he said is completely accurate there’s a big speed trap by Richmond where 81 meets 64 they call it the circle of hell🤬
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Fire-emblem-novice then run faster than light! At least they won’t catch light. Lol
Rich what?
I live in Colonial Heights. And for everyone reading *IF AT ALL POSSIBLE NEVER GO ON 64, 81 NORTH OR 95
At least you don't have "smart motorways" in the US. You can get done when the speed limit automatically changes and you are already past the sign. Also people keep getting killed when the hard shoulder opens.
*Goes 10 miles over the speed limit*
Virgina: AH6 Warthog headed to your location
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@@misterbuklau4053 or AH64 Apache... never know when someone is just ridiculously wrong
Speed Limit ENFORCED by aircraft.
MisterBuklau lol I put warthog when I meant to put overwatch referencing the 9 kill streak helicopter in mw3
A10 Warthog.
I've been learning that the hundred(s) of towns that make up Maricopa County, AZ (home to Phoenix and Scottsdale) are all apparently competing for the worst place to get pulled over. There's no escaping the fines in court, it's a huge revenue generator and is so unbelievably shady.
I drove around with a suspended license for a long time because I couldn't pay traffic fines. It was extremely stressful. I'm so glad I have a license now.
Hi, I’m from Virginia and multiple people I know have been pulled over simply for having temporary plates, one of the cops told the driver that they pulled them over not because they were expired but “because they were going to expire eventually”... crazy right???
In Oklahoma they can pull u over for a non expired temp tag too. It's to keep people from making fakes.
Lmao that's so stupid... even if they find something the entire stop is illegal so it gets thrown out (as long as you get a lawyer and fight it)
sussy
Let me guess, they were searched for drugs and weapons also.
Lol I’ve lived in VA my whole life and the things you said are 100% correct but for me, living in VA for as long as I remember, I thought these things are common everywhere else in the US and now I’m mad... like real mad....
come to Iowa our cops let you go over the speed limit if everyone around is also going over the speed limit, and you may dive 5 over the speed limit whenever you want, even in school zones
@@foxyfoxy2034 In SC, most cops won't even look at you if you're going less than 10 over. Just don't speed in a school or construction zone, that's where they make the money. Oh, interestingly enough, construction never seems to get finished......
I live in Houston & the average speed limit is 65, I drive about 75 and get passed by cops daily.... unless your just FN up real bad they don't mess with you "Knock on wood" However, I can only drive that fast at certain times of the day because traffic SUCKS!!! So be happy with your situation.... lol
Bruh idk if you know 66 in virgina or 495 but goddam people who drive 70-90 mph but cops don’t really say anything unless your by your self people average drive 70 on 55 mph roads so i don’t understand why they don’t just change it
Also I can't stop thinking about the highways around DC. Since it's common for even the COPS to be going 15-25 over the limit in NoVA.
This is so true.
I got a ticket around 15 years ago I never paid.😂
I don’t ever plan on going back though ever again !!!
My Ga license was never affected.
I’ve gotten a reckless driving ticket in a speed trap like this, every time I’ve gotten a ticket I always go to court dressed very nicely and I write down every detail I can think of that happened, I listen to the excuses people make before I go up and speak to the judge to see how to best speak to the judge (some will ask why you didn’t have speed control on, some will ask why you weren’t paying attention, etc.) and once I even recalled an inaccuracy in a cops story. every time I have gotten the mileage over the speed limit reduced dramatically or I have gotten the speeding ticket removed and just had to pay court fees. I’m very lucky I have the time to do this, but if you can I’d definitely taking this route if you live in va.
There is another town in Virginia off 95 called Emporia that uses constant construction sites to give motorists tickets. It’s really slimy
Surprised there’s not more complaints about Emporia. They use those sites to impose hefty construction zone speeding tickets tacked on to a speeding tickets. Yeah.....they got me and 4 other employees of the same company in a matter of hours
Got me there years ago and the situation was a complete farce.
Fuck Emporia only time I got a wreckless.
Yeah emporia is pretty bad but I'd have to say it's also pretty average for the state
Yea they do that in Arkansas too
As a virginia native, when I saw the thumbnail for the video and laughed. I knew it was virginia. It blows driving here. So much. I have had multiple road trips of over 12 hours. I will literally see about 6 cops over the course of hundreds of miles, but as soon as I get back to virginia. No lie, I will see 6 within the first hour.
This is true lmao 😂
58 heading into VA Beach is a nightmare
Where, on i 95?
Especially in Emporia🤣
i think you meant to say 6 in the first 10 minutes
I am from VA, this is pretty accurate. It sucks that lots of highways are only 55 and they do reduce the speeds very quickly. Sometimes it -10 to -15 mph! Also, there is this speed trap spot near where I live where police sit at the bottom of a huge incline waiting for drivers to reach the bottom while accidentally going over the speed limit 🙄
7:16 - Just go on I-75 (In Orlando Florida) during spring break (or another Friday) on a Friday around 11 pm and you can find a lot and I mean A LOT more tuned and modified cars on the road. Happened to see some pulled over by cops, which made me a little sad.
*Sees the title "This is the most unfair state for Car Owners."*
Thinks: Huh. It's probably VA.
*Watches 20 seconds.*
Yup.
Paul Sheehan Haha
Yep, and fuck lol
I was like... "There's no way... I mean, it's a 2% chance, right?"
But _of course_
Lol, same. Im not even a car guy and I know the laws are b.s.
Same I'm from the uk and I though it would be that state don't know. I think that probably because it's quite well off compared to other states around but also very strict
Can confirm
Without having to watch this video, I agree
Proof: I live here
Some parts of the UK are similarly miserable. On the M6 through Birmingham the speed limit is variable and there are speed cameras, it is wank.
I’m sorry. I do too. Cannot wait til I can move to Carolina. I live right on the other side of the border now. But the car scene up here even draws up the crowd from the other side of the border... just gotta move to central Carolina where I’ve got some family at. Big car scene in Raleigh/ ft.bragg Fayetteville area
ohooo you guys have obviously never been to Norway.
And why I moved to Raleigh NC 🙃
*there
Currently living in Virginia Beach. You are absolutely right. Another thing to add is when the big events happen here it’s funny how every mile or 2 VA state troopers have someone pulled over. I stay off the interstate when this happens.
Virginia native. I live about 30 minutes from hopewell. I’ve driven through the million dollar mile countless times. I’ve never gotten a ticket there but I do have a suspended license. I don’t drive because they will put you in jail for driving on suspended. I literally started renting the house next to my work so that I can walk to work. It sucks really bad.
I went 4 miles over the speed limit near my house and I somehow got a reckless driving ticket for speeding. Luckily I got a lawyer
Were you driving normally?
When something goes wrong, call me Ann Phoong.
@@RestingBeachFace721 she is only in the bay right?
@@RestingBeachFace721 I see ads for her all over the place.
No you didn’t.
Everyday i find myself despising politicians more and more.
that comes with getting old(if your doing it right)
They are to happiness as vampires are to a person's blood.
Blame the voters who elect them. Voters in those speed trap towns knowingly elect politicians who promise to keep local taxes low by screwing over unsuspecting motorists.
One of my biggest issues in my home state in TN with policing for profit is certain precincts will search your car, and if you have lets say 2500 or more on you, its confiscated and nearly impossible to get back, at least as of a few years ago, I know there was some push to change that and not sure if it ever did or will. But its crazy.
I always have Google Maps running on the screen in my car. It announces "speed trap ahead" when approaching an area where enforcement was recently spotted, even if it's not technically a speed trap.
“SPEED ENFORCED BY AIRCRAFT”
*A-10 flys over*
@@MultiGameKing101 live in AZ. Can confirm
Accurate
can confirm i freaked out the first time i saw it on 66. I was like man that helicopter is flying really low...... legit snapped a pic of everyone on the highway spun around and did the other side (NB/SB) flew down the road did the same thing about 200 yards down the road.
@@GT0wned1 oh shit? I haven't seen or been flagged by an aircraft, afaik, but those signs terrify me. Like I've been scanning the bushes around the i-10, and now I have to scan the skies too?
Plus it's like several hundred miles of NOTHING but straight road, so it's really easy to speed.
Me: *gets pulled over doing 110mph in a 40 on a sport bike*
Officer: "I used to ride too, slow down before you die, here's a warning"
Go Massachusetts
Don't die 🤯
Fan
@@lumililja7395 I actually ride pretty safely, usually ride the same way I drive in my SUV. Unfortunately the cop caught me in the first stretch of open road after spending about and hour in standstill traffic. 110 definitely doesn't reflect how I actually ride
I got pulled over doing 145 in a 55 in my Camaro and the cop just gave me a ton of other tickets instead of arresting me for going 90 over he could have hit me with all those tickets AND the arrest but he didn't. He also said had I not seen you slowing down I wouldn't have even bothered trying, I guess it just depends on the cop.
Pulled over for 119 in a 45 on my crotch rocket outside of Las Vegas, was active duty military, Cop* “Dude your first shirt would fucking murder you if I wrote this ticket, slow down and get the hell out here now”.
Here in Colombia we have the same issue, even the supreme court had to pronounce because when people was travelling around on every town the governors put some speed traps, and several were placed deliberately to make tickets...
FYI:
Arkansas:
Arkansas has a law that if a municipality generates too much revenue from traffic enforcement, they are banned from enforcing traffic regulations for a period of time. At that point the county or the state takes over traffic enforcement....
My dad used to put a news paper over the radar detector when we went through Virginia
Legend
My dad just used to take his plates off many nights my dad wallked home after hiding his white mustang he finally got in enough trouble it was sell the car or go to jail
that could work except radar detectors are illegal in Virginia, plus the police have radar detector detectors lol
Travis Page I can see radar hammers being illegal, but I don’t get what good reason there would be to ban radar detectors.
And people still don't believe we need to have major police reform in this country! Police SUCK!!!
Born, raised, and still currently living here😑
Best thing I can tell anybody is use the Waze app and keep your head on a swivel 👌🏽
Even simpler might be look out the windshield for road signs and follow them.
Or don't speed. Ryan is right, you just need to keep an eye out for stupid or hidden speed limit changes.
Specialopsdave you do realize that even the cops go 65 in the 55 zones right? The speed limits are too low in some areas (falls church broad street 25 mile limit feels like everyone is driving slow motion... but I’ve noticed cops let you slide 30-35).
I hate driving through Falls Church all my goodness got a better chance of molasses moving faster on a cold day
Virginia here and it definitely sucks in many ways than listed (driving). Side note, I got a suspended license for going 20 over and showed proof that I didnt. They also, ticketed me for dark tint and said my exhaust was too loud without using any metering systems. VA does suck.
One thing not mentioned is that here in Virginia, if you go over 80 MPH that is also reckless driving. There is a small segment of I-77 that passes through Virginia, and briefly combines with I-81, and this whole section is heavily policed. I used to work data entry for a legal firm a handful of years ago, and would go to various courthouses to access their computer systems and manually enter the data (they can only be accessed at the courthouse). I will just say the number of speeding tickets written for over 80 in this section is nuts. People from Canada, the midwest, the northeast...everyone headed south on the east coast and not using I-95 basically. I overheard numerous calls from the clerks where they were asked how much the ticket would be and the clerk would say "This isn't a ticket, it is reckless driving. You have to appear in court for this since it is a misdemeanor." I always cringed for the awkward situation those people had to have been finding themselves in.
Virginia: Our speeding laws are insane.
Switzerland: Hold my beer
speeding ticket for driving 4kmh (3mph) over the limit.
You guys also don’t have stupidly low limits compared to the speed people actually drive, though.
@@TheJacobshapiro ah.. really? how about cities starting to lower to 30 (20mph) speed limit on main roads. a fucking bicycle overtakes you and doesn't have to pay for any fines!
Knock knock.. Australia here. I heard you mentioned speeding, thats a ticket.
@@ClaudioSL619 then ride a bike haha better for the enviorment and your body
You forgot ONE thing! Virginia’s stupid radar detector law.
Dennis Snider true
It's a $100 fine and they can seize it. They TECHNICALLY have to give it back after your court appearance, but good luck getting anything back that the cops take from you.
Duude yes! I'm from NC were its legal and completely forgot to take it down. I was pulled at an intersection because of it.
Whatareyoudoingyouidiot My mom once owned a huge Ford excursion van that had some sort of “Merry Miler” package added onto it. On top of all the amazing options that vehicle came with, it had a built in radar detector. If it wasn’t, that thing looked factory. Did a TON of cross country travel in that van, and that detector always impressed me. When we moved from Texas to VA in 1988, my mom turned off the detector. Being 5-8 in VA, I didn’t understand, so I asked her. She said that it was illegal in the state. I still did not understand.
If they had to seize it, I can’t imagine how they would go about doing it without destroying the headliner. And she just turned it off, since that’s all she could do. She never got pulled over in that state, but had she... ...”right lady. It was turned off the whole time. These vans had blinds and curtains. Cop wouldn’t be able to tell if she didn’t had it on and quickly turned it off, hide some narcotics, or even decided to reach for a fire arm.
cant you just hide it when the cop pulls you over?
Live here in va. Got a ticket in nc for 81 in a 70. When it got reported to va it was still over 80 which went down as excessive speed on my license and included 6 points for fun, I guess. Took 6 years to get my points back. Definitely be careful here in the commonwealth!!!
As a Virginian car enthusiast I can absolutely confirm that everything here is 100% the truth. Some smaller towns in Virginia are even reliant on unjust speeding tickets, and it’s how they make the great majority of their income. If you’re looking for a safe Virginian road to joy ride on, I highly recommend the blue ridge parkway, although it’s frequently down for maintenance.
I live in Virginia and drive the “million dollar mile” every day and I at least see one car pulled over every time I go through there. Another thing they like to abuse is the move over law. They will sit around a corner with their lights on and wait for a car that can’t get over in time just to pull them over.
I've seen them pull the wrong person going thru there before. Example they pulled a white van but it was the wrong white van
It's pull over or slow, so you can fight it.
Virginia 100% pulls this shit for profit. My city (St. Louis, Missouri) has no speeding enforcement at all and yet, despite having an abnormally high rate of total car accidents, we have an abnormally low rate of car accident fatalities
@@vaska916-- But that costs you a day in court. If you are retired, it's an outing. If you are out of state, you can hope for the best. A lot of folks just pay up.
Reminds me of this one time i was passing through Virginia and before I saw the big "Welcome to X state" sign, I saw a great big green sign:
"SPEED LIMIT ENFORCED BY AIRCRAFT"
Great first impressions
whats great about that sign is that its a lie! It would more expensive to take the sign down than leave it up, so unofficial slogan it has become
Lol I was just going to say we don't want to pay to take the signs down.
Uhuh along with 'Radar Detectors Illegal'....
Hawaii's fastest speed limit is 60. I've gotten so many tickets going 65 though because most are 55 or 50 on highways
That's how it is in Delaware. Literally every road is 50-55 mph. Half of the drivers follow the speed limit while the other half drive 20+ mph over
@@need4speed5353 I'm from NY so I'm used to 65 mph speed limits. Most cops here don't really give a fuck though I less you go 70 or over
In Delaware, the highest speed limit is 65 mph but that's only up north. For the majority of the state, the highest speed limit is 55 on highway and 50 on two-lane roads. I'm so jealous of the wid-west states
Knew this was gonna be my fascist state before the video even started
More like a socialist/communist state.
@@beanvo9924 so true.. California is on path to become one. Democrats are new socialists.
Roads are poorly maintained even with all this “revenue”.
weakxkiller va actually has better roads then most (coming from someone who travels the country a lot )
Actually compared to most states Virginia's roads are pretty good. Virginia is ranked #4 for best overall driving conditions and this is despite also being number one in the country for the worst traffic along 95 south from Fairfax county PKWY to Fredericksburg. Virginia also ranks as the second least dependent on federal funding overall to include road and other programs meaning it is second only to North Dakota for being the most self sufficient state in the country. North Dakota only has a population of 760k where VA pop is 8.5m. Sure the laws here suck on just about everything car related but I have been to worse parts of the country when it comes to the roadways.
martrysdeath751 fuck no they aren’t. The north pays the most and south of Culpepper the roads are pristine, up above Culpepper our roads are absolute shit
thats true too
weakxkiller I’m so sorry you have to live there
I can't get enough of your videos .. They are super good 👌👌 Thank You.
FOOOR REAAAAL!!!! I have lived in Virginia most of my life and yeah it suuucks to drive here. When I was in my 20s I was ticketed with a few 20+ mph tickets and got my license suspended 2 times. My brother got pulled over doing 30 over and had to do JAIL TIME for speeding. He spent a week behind bars for speeding, speeding!
Not to mention the DMV pulling your license if they detect a lapse in your insurance. For instance, your insurance lapses and you get new insurance the next day they will pull your license for not being covered for the day it happened to me, again in my 20s. DMV notifies you by mail and that takes a couple weeks to get to you. In the meantime you can be pulled over for driving on a suspended, I know because that's the second half of the DMV story. All told I had to pay a ticket for driving on a suspended of about $450.00 and the uninsured motorist fee plus a reinstatement fee plus a fee to reissue the driver's license to dmv for about $900 a grand total of about 1400 bucks. I wish I would have never moved back to Virginia, I'm getting pissed just remembering it!!!
SO basically the reason why we drive safer in Virginia is because we are scared. Kind of like in the old days when you would get your hand cut off for stealing.
So glad I live in Michigan, I was doing 67 in a 45 and the officer pulled me over and gave me a 1-5 over ticket and said “ I know you want to have fun but try be be safe”
Sameee, and doing 85+ on the highway is relatively common and easy.
but insurance is literally the highest in the country hmmm
You should have gotten your license suspended.
icosaedrial not a good enough reason
Coming from Ohio, Michigan has THE WORST Roads. Enough to stop me from living there
I can confirm. They also put up “work zones” in which the fine is doubled, but nobody’s doing any construction or anything in months
The work zone on I64 near Battlefield Blvd lol!, that same bulldozer has been parked in the same place for at least 6 months un-touched.
Norfolk guy here, "construction" been going on for months now.
they’ve been putting up a sound wall up coming out of richmond on I-95 north for over 2 months
Work zones with double fines and no workers?
Sounds like Texas.
Germany has these BS work zones all over the Autobahn & they place mobile & fixed blitzers in them. Fuck the system
Another thing that many states have that is brutal on lower income drivers: the "points" system. It functions similar to the "3 strikes you're out" policing, because if you get a few speeding tickets in a row, the fines scale up massively. You can't pay the fine, you get your license suspended, you HAVE to drive, and there you go, a different system with the same result.
Texas had it, but THANKFULLY repealed it a few years ago, exactly because of these unintended consequences.
I live in the UK and we have a really annoying variation of a speed trap, we have a road that turns to 60 to 30 but the dual carriageway continues about half a mile into the 30 making you either think it’s still a 60 if you don’t know the road or really want to speed if you do, we also have another road with a 50 to 30 straight after a corner and many many roads with 60 speed limits but you will be pulled over and fined for driving 60 on
Virginia: Re - introduces death sentence for 30 over speed limit
nah they can't make money from death
They can if they start a pay per view for executions :)))) honestly would it surprise you .... its va
When we figure out that speed isn't what killed it's bad driving then we wouldn't have that attitude would you
@@alvinip9128 of course they can, you forfeit everything you own and they kill you.
alvin Ip oh they could.
Pay 10$ to touch a certified 100% legit and free range violent dead criminal.
4:39 There's studies that show that more speed traps/too many traffic cops can actually cause MORE accidents, ironically enough, from people getting distracted by seeing speed traps/cops, slamming on their brakes, and disrupting the normal flow of traffic, potentially causing people to rear end each other, or unaware driver's swerving around those slowing down thinking it's just a slow driver, potentially hitting someone else, etc. So yea, it's JUST about money. The "safety" thing is mostly just a hollow excuse.
Ooooo, send me the link to the studies. I'd actually love to read that.
It's always about money dude, money and control. I drive a dump truck in NYC, you gotta see the scams here. NYC contracts out work to pave their streets, so they know exactly how much every truck costs and how many trucks they will have on a particular job, and based on those numbers they know damn well that in order for the contractor to make any money and not lose a fuck ton, they know every single truck will have to be "overloaded". In fact, in NY legally we would only be allowed to carry half of what we typically do. Then they setup truck checkpoints and check our weight and write outrageous fines. Thousands of dollars each. I don't own nor have I ever owned one of the trucks myself so I don't see the actual fine, but I've heard it comes out to about a dollar per pound over the limit. And you can EASILY BE 15000-20000LBS over. So then the contractor has to go to court and the courts maybe cut the fine in half or so to make you feel like you aren't being fucked in the ass dry.
@screaming chivo I know man, I know. I grew up here but I'm sick of this communist bullshit. Took me almost 3 years to get a pistol license, had to get a lawyer and everything and that's with no felonies, no misdemeanor convictions, no violent record whatsoever. Fucking kangaroo court system. And the taxes are fucking ridiculous. But of course they are, we need to support all the low lives and illegals. I would've left already but me and my wife split and my daughter is here, plus I'm 5 years into my Union, don't want to have to start that all over.
Let's be honest, those studies are highly biased.
In general, IF people were driving the speed limit, roads would most definitely be safer.
But to ensure that people do drive the speed limit you'd need to install average speed cameras instead of cops looking out for speeders at a single point.
@@uli07
Yes!
You're right.
Driving education can increase safety more than having a speed limit, BUT only given the right rules (such as overtaking from the right being illegal, you are *only* allowed to overtake cars on the right of you on the Autobahn).
Also keep in mind a driver's license costs roughly 2000$ or more here in Germany and that money is going into proper education and enough driving training with a professional certified instructor at your side and far from easy theoretical and practical driving tests.
Years ago during the national 55 mph speed limits, I left SW Virginia and drove into Tennessee where everyone was doing 75 mph. I was impressed. Recently I got stuck in the reverse commute near Nashville,.........85 mph.
I grew up in and have driven all over Virginia 2 speeding tickets in 40+ years driving there. One thing you did not mention is annual vehicle state inspections those can be a real pain for anyone with an older car
Donut media: ”I would really like to hear from you if you’re driving on a suspended license”
Drivers: “Nice try...donut...nice try” 🤫
Lol he did say towards the end not to rat on ourselves haha
The Donut is clearly a call sign for cops #staywokeorgobroke #donutsarereallyflat
I remember being a little kid and going to Virginia Beach. The cop pulled my dad over they thought his CB radio was a radar detector from looking in the window as we passed by.
They were very excited to see out of state plates
VA Beach is awful at ticketing: they even have anti cruising laws
Theyre also notoriously racist
@@infiniteuniverse1757 doubt that. This is 2020. It would be on the news.
@@FXIIBeaver no this is well known in Virginia and actually we try to warn people about it but yall think were kidding
@@machinedragon getting ticketed I can believe Virgina has a bunch of dicks as cops. But racist I call bullshit.
@@infiniteuniverse1757 It starts with the Governor himself!
I live in Wisconsin and there was one speed trap In Milwaukee that was notoriously bad around here. Thankfully a few years ago it got taken away because construction on the highway it was on changed the way the speeds work in the section.
You didn’t even mention that radar detectors are illegal in VA and that they have radar detector detectors. Also over 80mph is also reckless driving in VA as well and is a must appear in court and atleast $500 fine.