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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Комментарии • 79

  • @Ymirism
    @Ymirism 6 месяцев назад +63

    No spoilers but that's a wincon I haven't seen actually go the distance in a hot minute, very cool game!

  • @ComedIanMTG
    @ComedIanMTG 6 месяцев назад +29

    Hey!
    Thanks for playing my list and giving me the shoutout :)
    One of the main waysbi try and win with narset is to use the blind obedience extort ability when you are looping breach :)
    Helps with the life total stuff too😊

  • @skykur
    @skykur 6 месяцев назад +51

    Brother,
    With Chandra’s Incinerator in play, go face with the Inferno Titan triggers.
    -Sincerely,
    One Burny Boi

    • @brandonlopina7733
      @brandonlopina7733 6 месяцев назад

      I was about to comment that too. I was wondering if there was something I was missing.

    • @crokeyza-team7257
      @crokeyza-team7257 6 месяцев назад

      Yep

  • @brandonschaber3705
    @brandonschaber3705 6 месяцев назад +23

    Not that it mattered, but I don't think Jan could have killed Aaron's Dockside that last round; Aaron didn't take damage so Incinerator couldn't ping his creature

    • @zSpec
      @zSpec 6 месяцев назад +5

      I think it did matter because He wouldn't have been able to breach Dockside for mana then he would have had counters for the wincon

  • @like17badgers
    @like17badgers 6 месяцев назад +8

    21:40 a little optimization thing here but if Inferno Titan shoots Jim, Bill, and a creature, it'd hit those targets for 3 then Chandra's Incinerator can shoot the creatures on board instead.
    Overall it wouldn't change much to the outcome of the game but as a burn deck every little bit CAN matter, and also that could create a "gotcha!" moment where you're not targeting the Cathar Commando, they sac Commando in response, then Incin gets to shoot the elf.

  • @noahpetrasko6777
    @noahpetrasko6777 6 месяцев назад +10

    Possibly the most baffling possible sequence of plays from Jim on turn 5

    • @apd5084
      @apd5084 6 месяцев назад

      yes, main phase the snap just to burn your force of will and then bill just recasts dranith... make it make sense

    • @caseyfurey1348
      @caseyfurey1348 6 месяцев назад

      @@apd508418:08 I think Jim wanted to force Aaron to burn a counterspell on it

  • @f99140
    @f99140 6 месяцев назад +2

    Jim is the KING! Watched so many games where Jim ends up stealing the win out of the blue. Well played!

  • @alexmcgregor8658
    @alexmcgregor8658 6 месяцев назад +151

    Like this comment to Banter with the Spikes

    • @sandoga
      @sandoga 6 месяцев назад +1

      Let the banter begin!

    • @j2c695
      @j2c695 6 месяцев назад +1

      Funny haha witty comment

    • @SilvanOrion
      @SilvanOrion 6 месяцев назад

      For legal reasons, we shall not banter till at least 5pm.

    • @kstandish42
      @kstandish42 6 месяцев назад +2

      What if we want to rabble rouse?

    • @andrewwhite2123
      @andrewwhite2123 6 месяцев назад

      How’s about them blue jays?

  • @hanfjord
    @hanfjord 6 месяцев назад +24

    A wild BILL appears!
    BILL uses DRANNITH MAGISTRATE!
    It's super effective!!

  • @mikem2808
    @mikem2808 6 месяцев назад +2

    Got some gamegenic boxes this week. Thanks for the heads-up

  • @lightfut
    @lightfut 6 месяцев назад +1

    Aaron had quite the early roller coaster there

  • @Theorak
    @Theorak 6 месяцев назад +2

    Find the creature interaction heavy Ojer deck facinating, but it can't really keep up with the stack from the mediocre cards.
    On 26:30, since Aaron can't take damage after second One Ring, Chandra's incinerator does also not get triggert to kill the dockside, that later helps Aaron just slightly.

  • @MarvelOfRain
    @MarvelOfRain 6 месяцев назад +6

    Worth to note that what Jim said around 33:30 is incorrect. You can play only one card per turn with Evelynn. Looking at the decklist what you actually should do is flash in Orcish Bowmasters once that gets exiled and use that to finish everyone. Alternatively you can use Thassa's Oracle or get their non-permanent spells using Born Upon the Wind (since the Once per Turn ability resets between itterations of the Worldgorger loop).

    • @EldritchSquiggle
      @EldritchSquiggle 6 месяцев назад +9

      Doesn't each new Evelynn in the worldgorger loop give you another chance to cast an exiled spell?

    • @frostasaurus2190
      @frostasaurus2190 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@EldritchSquiggle You're correct

    • @MentallyLatent
      @MentallyLatent 6 месяцев назад

      @@EldritchSquiggleYea however once he kills the loop he only gets to cast 1 card, and he can only cast things at instant speed during the blinking.

    • @jakemaxwell3810
      @jakemaxwell3810 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@MentallyLatent If he has borne upon a wind in the deck, he can cast everything.

  • @Deer_God
    @Deer_God 6 месяцев назад +1

    Before I Started Watching: “You know I want to get more into this channel but I really dont like Alex I dont think Im gonna watch these guys.”
    Me Now: “If Alex isnt in the episode is it even worth watching?” (It is because all these guys are fantastic just remind yourself to not judge others before you know them otherwise you might be missing out on some great games)

  • @Michael-s9b1q
    @Michael-s9b1q 6 месяцев назад

    It's Bill and Jim's Excellent Adventure!

  • @CER160th
    @CER160th 6 месяцев назад +1

    Love ya'lls content! Will we be getting anymore "Better know a Combo" videos coming back?
    A lot of new stuff is out there. Would love to see some Sisay, Tivit, Kinnan, Minsc, Samwise and more!
    They were always nice to have a well spoken and detailed place to point new players to, quite literally, better know a combo.
    Thank you for the content!

  • @j2c695
    @j2c695 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yoooooo love me some NARSET! Welcome back Bill!

  • @nickchaput219
    @nickchaput219 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ojer Axonil is so close to Urabrask the great work. Please do an Urabrask the great work cEDH deck! Love your content!

  • @jacobgherardi3793
    @jacobgherardi3793 6 месяцев назад +3

    Jan casually playing inferno titan+chandra’s incinerator wrong, he could have pointed damage at his opponents to then trigger the incinerator to deal damage to creatures, with torbran he could have been shooting 5 damage around instead of 3 at creatures, not that it really mattered

  • @WIBYTIEDH
    @WIBYTIEDH 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's oddly warm in Ontario too. This winter has been weird

  • @DevoidGoat
    @DevoidGoat 6 месяцев назад

    When I see cEdh game
    Sees Kinnan watches video
    used to be my thing
    Now it's becoming Sees Ojer Axonil watches video, and im not sure how that makes me feel but watch I shall 😊

  • @andreychen6523
    @andreychen6523 6 месяцев назад +3

    Just out of curiosity, with Chandra's Incinerator isn't it better for the pings from Inferno Titan to go face? They should trigger the Incinerator, right?

  • @kjart
    @kjart 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic game, really felt like everyone was in it

  • @obstkanone
    @obstkanone Месяц назад

    Shouldn't they specify that the storm trigger from Flusterstorm resolved (creating the copies) before everything else got put onto the stack? Otherwise the Mindbreak Trap at 30:03 will not exile the copies, and Ad Nauseam still gets countered.

  • @willis7111
    @willis7111 6 месяцев назад +1

    Let the record show that Aaron is ready to get to blasted 7:07.... anyways commander is fun.

  • @knick5639
    @knick5639 6 месяцев назад +1

    Am I wrong in thinking that Jan could of just pinged players with the titan and then the incinerator would of blasted the creatures he wanted as well?

  • @stephenlewis6922
    @stephenlewis6922 6 месяцев назад

    Gods I love Evelyn, vampires and grand theft!

  • @flyingtoastr
    @flyingtoastr 6 месяцев назад

    Getting at Jim in the comments...
    ...to say that I enjoy watching this content.

  • @Blaze_1013
    @Blaze_1013 6 месяцев назад

    I have a Talrand deck that looks to win by casting Nexus of Fate and Beacon of Tomorrows over an over and then win by attacking with a million drakes. I strongly considered The One Ring, but I realized my win condition nomboed with a bunch of extra turn spells since it's extremely slow otherwise and I had a real fear of the ring killing me since I'm prone to taking early damage. I'm still not sure how justified that fear is, but seeing that it is an actual concern in this game does at least make me feel better for not dropping another $60 on a copy.

  • @dreadfulpopcorn
    @dreadfulpopcorn 6 месяцев назад +2

    Don’t think it mattered this game but torbran doesn’t work well with Ojer. Since they’re both replacement effects, the person who is taking the damage gets to choose which replacement effect to apply first. I believe this might’ve had to do with APNAP but I’m not sure

  • @thatcorpse
    @thatcorpse 6 месяцев назад +2

    I motion we start calling it nombat damage. 😅

  • @emilysmith2965
    @emilysmith2965 6 месяцев назад

    I want to build all of these decks… likely starting with Evelyn and Ojer. Not a cEDH player really, but I’m always on the lookout for a wild brew and these decks really made a fun showing!

  • @jorgegarciaroman9904
    @jorgegarciaroman9904 6 месяцев назад

    Inferno titan triggers could've gone to players and then have the incenerator blow more shit up for that sweet sweet value

  • @Sheer_Falacy
    @Sheer_Falacy 6 месяцев назад

    Got played correctly during the game but during Ojer's intro you skipped over the "to an opponent" condition which is important and easy to miss.

  • @spinebustertee
    @spinebustertee 6 месяцев назад +2

    If there are any 'O'Hare Airport' fans, they are deeply troubled individuals.

  • @cameron5869
    @cameron5869 6 месяцев назад

    I think the simplest kill to explain with Worldgorger is just that you will play your Bowmasters at some point during the loop off Evelyn, and then the blinks on that will kill everybody with damage.

  • @CensorOCE
    @CensorOCE 6 месяцев назад

    @TheSpikeFeeders hey big fan was curious if you guys were ever gunna sell the cereal spike feeder playmats from the kickstarter in the future?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  6 месяцев назад +1

      We may list a few of the leftovers in our shop, i have to do a quick count of how many we have left. It would be during our next shop update.

    • @CensorOCE
      @CensorOCE 6 месяцев назад

      @TheSpikeFeeders cheers for the fast reply when would the shop update be so I can try to get in there haha

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  6 месяцев назад

      We're not 100% sure yet because we're waiting for our dice order, but if you join our discord group we'll have announcements about the restock there, or also on twitter.

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 6 месяцев назад

    Serious question: is it worth it to jam an ojer axonill into my ob nixilis captive kingpin deck? It turns off the commander but is just as threatening in its own way and would be a good way to close the game out if i get got by a turn one drannith that no one is removing.

  • @dewrules235
    @dewrules235 13 дней назад

    Wait, Jim and Bill are related?

  • @john_wick272
    @john_wick272 6 месяцев назад

    Lol Dockside Extortionist sure seems balanced

  • @harryfenzleiniii6274
    @harryfenzleiniii6274 6 месяцев назад

    Is the store close to being replenished?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  6 месяцев назад

      Yes, if you join our discord we'll be sending notifications once we are restocking!

  • @falandfriends4760
    @falandfriends4760 6 месяцев назад

    “You can just walk into Mordor can’t you?” Not according to google maps you can’t.

    • @jakemaxwell3810
      @jakemaxwell3810 6 месяцев назад

      There was actually a documentary about how hard it is to walk there. Highly recommend.

    • @falandfriends4760
      @falandfriends4760 6 месяцев назад

      @@jakemaxwell3810 I was referencing the gmaps Easter egg if you try to get directions to Mordor and select “walking” as your travel mode.

  • @emcarlou
    @emcarlou 6 месяцев назад

    the nepotism in this video was palpable bahaha

  • @seraph_six
    @seraph_six 6 месяцев назад

    Cruise control for losing is just Lose Control

  • @tapoutologist
    @tapoutologist 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey!? You’re not gonna use your force of will? 😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 6 месяцев назад

    great game, but i have to be pentadic. when jim casted what probably was the best ad naus i have ever seen in my life, he had 3 lands and 2 treasures. after the cast of ad naus he shouldn't have any more treasures. did it matter? no. hell no actually. however i caught it and I didn't know what to do with this knowledge

  • @elliotbanbury6442
    @elliotbanbury6442 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bro that ojer deck does not look like CEDH at all BRO 😂

    • @khub5660
      @khub5660 6 месяцев назад +1

      It just looks like a bad Slicer deck

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  6 месяцев назад +11

      CEDH isnt about the cards you play, it's about how you feel in your heart.
      -Jan

  • @KamkaziChicila
    @KamkaziChicila 6 месяцев назад +1

    Everytime I hear Ojer mispronounced it’s just psychic damage on me. It’s so little but i do find I funny how Jan likes this deck a ton yet doesn’t wanna learn how to pronounce it properly.

    • @jakemaxwell3810
      @jakemaxwell3810 6 месяцев назад

      Is it supposed to be ohare or ojer? They specifically referenced this, so it's not like it was missed anyway.

  • @hulud
    @hulud 6 месяцев назад +1

    Turn 2 Blood Moon and Drannith Magistrate? That is some lame ass bullshit. Cedh decks are so boring.

  • @DarthChewdup
    @DarthChewdup 6 месяцев назад +3

    im a simple girl i see narset i click 💜🫠🏳️‍🌈