Why did I watch this, spent all day setting a job on a twin spindle, three turret machine. Get home sit down and watch someone else doing what I’ve been doing all day
The first time I saw the drill coming in and looked as if it was close to the chuck I gasped.... the camera angle does not give you the clearance distance... Awesome ....what looks a common type of part takes a lot of machine time and some great programming not to mention the machine or tools...Amacf
Cool to see you did the workpiece clamping with two SCHUNK power chucks and SCHUNK chuck jaws - a 3-jaw chuck on the main spindle, a 6-jaw chuck on the counter spindle - regards from the SCHUNK headquarters at Lauffen, Germany ;-)
@@9711244 For this type of workpiece there's absolutely no advantage (and no need) to use a 6-jaw chuck. The sealed SCHUNK 6-jaw power lathe chuck type ROTA NCR-A with (internal) pendulum mechanism is mainly for low-deformation clamping (thin-walled workpieces, rings, housings, ...) and maintenance intervals three times as long compared to a less sealed power chuck. Here, you've even to use six (soft) top jaws for the second clamping and machining operation instead of three when using a standard 3-jaw chuck. But it's really a great clamping device when it comes to thin-walled workpieces - then the workiece roundness is really superior compared to a 3-jaw chuck. If a customer has many thin-walled workpieces to machine, this ROTA NCR-A is one of my favourite chuck technologies... schunk.com/de_en/clamping-technology/series/rota-ncr-a/
Super Video! For the corect description in metric parameters, can you set the "0" before the "." please. For example: You show MMPR: .06 in metric. In metric scales, always the 0 before the . must be shown like this: MMPR: 0.06. Greetings from Germany.
I work at a place with over 50 15-20 year old daewoo/doosans that all regularly hold .0003 tolerances 24/5 -- and our 2 15 year old mori lathes chatter more .. but they are smaller machines probably 1500lbs lighter. LOL
You should move your M8 down a few lines in the code so the coolant doesn't come on so early. I like to watch the tool moving toward the workpiece with the door open to get a better look at clearances but I would get a bath if I forgot to kill the coolant. I had this problem when we first started using Mastercam. Our reseller was able to adjust the post processor so it defaults on the G54 line when posting the file.
These machines can drop down -50.00mm in X, if you adjust your post, you’d be able to hard clamp C2, and just use X and Y to mill the hex. Do have to ensure the other tools don’t foul with the way covers
Only a observation I would back turn and bore the lead thread for it to be burr free and if that’s a g76 can cycle I would up the second pass to .003 less then the thread depth per side to save some time
Nice Video. The metric values for the ID thread seem a bit weird. (7:43) I think MMPR should be something like 1,81, unless it's one of this weird american threads. Pls correct me if i am wrong.🧐🧐🧐
Just curious about the selected Depth of cut of 0.1 mm for OD turning. We do OD turning on 316 with Kenna tools and generally use about 3 mm DOC for roughing. Appreciate the 316 videos though, keep em coming😀
Can someone tells me , is this cost effective to machine this type of small parts with cnc specially mass production? Is there no another way to do so?
This machine can move a lot faster, I think they had it on 50% Rapid for the demonstration. Plenty of optimisation can be done if getting cycle time down is a must.
@@TheShred89 Seems to be rather low speed and feedrates also, I think they have been quite much on the safe side. I'm not used to imperial cuttingspeeds, but from what I can see on the metric values there should be potential for a lot faster machining, maybe as much as a 30% reduction in total time.
@@jondenekamp2396 there is not a screw that could make these parts. The part is way too complicated and plus its steel. Also has tight tolerances. Screw machines are a pain just holding a .005 tolerance on brass
i literally live 20 minutes away from kennametall headquarters, i went to scool with the apprentices from there, i work at a company close to them and we also use a lot of kenna stuff, but also Seco, Vardex, Ingersoll, Emuge and so on theres at leas 2 more but i forgot the names
You guys need to re-work how you film on this machine. It’s challenging to figure out the depth of stuff. I keep thinking you’re are machining the chuck. Maybe putting the camera at a slight angle rather than straight on would give more perspective of what is in front of what.
Apparently you havent been working with 316L ... ever. Feeds and speeds are ok for stainless 316L, if you want steady production. Hey titans.... DOCs for metric are wrong (stiil in imperial)
Can you public code,i working on doosan puma 2600 sy and doosan dnm 5700 (in Belarus). It will be very interesting how your code looks like. I think code is not ,a big secret,real secret is a technology. Im work 16 years on cnc machines. My first machine was drilling cnc machine (memory on paper tapes ,real trash),second finn-power f6,c6 punching machine (Siemens sinumerik 840d),next laser cutting machine bystronic ,next some bendings cnc machines (very boring work) ,than Danobat line punching+bending cnc machine (fagor),and i change work back 3years ,now working on dosans turn+mill (puma)and milling(dnm). Milling and turning its real top of cnc machine i think,i like read some codes of deferent cnc programmers . So please if you would like ,send code ,or public it (sorry for my English,thats not my real language,so i did a lot of mistakes :)))
Why did I watch this, spent all day setting a job on a twin spindle, three turret machine.
Get home sit down and watch someone else doing what I’ve been doing all day
Lol you're not the only one!
Because you LOVE it!!!
you love your job buddy
same here
The first time I saw the drill coming in and looked as if it was close to the chuck I gasped.... the camera angle does not give you the clearance distance... Awesome ....what looks a common type of part takes a lot of machine time and some great programming not to mention the machine or tools...Amacf
Cool to see you did the workpiece clamping with two SCHUNK power chucks and SCHUNK chuck jaws - a 3-jaw chuck on the main spindle, a 6-jaw chuck on the counter spindle - regards from the SCHUNK headquarters at Lauffen, Germany ;-)
Why use the six-jaw chuck in the second spindle .is there any advantage?
@@9711244 For this type of workpiece there's absolutely no advantage (and no need) to use a 6-jaw chuck.
The sealed SCHUNK 6-jaw power lathe chuck type ROTA NCR-A with (internal) pendulum mechanism is mainly for low-deformation clamping (thin-walled workpieces, rings, housings, ...) and maintenance intervals three times as long compared to a less sealed power chuck.
Here, you've even to use six (soft) top jaws for the second clamping and machining operation instead of three when using a standard 3-jaw chuck.
But it's really a great clamping device when it comes to thin-walled workpieces - then the workiece roundness is really superior compared to a 3-jaw chuck.
If a customer has many thin-walled workpieces to machine, this ROTA NCR-A is one of my favourite chuck technologies...
schunk.com/de_en/clamping-technology/series/rota-ncr-a/
Super Video! For the corect description in metric parameters, can you set the "0" before the "." please. For example: You show MMPR: .06 in metric. In metric scales, always the 0 before the . must be shown like this: MMPR: 0.06. Greetings from Germany.
Doosans love to chatter!! My best machine is a 25 year old Mori! Holds .0002 all day!!
I also dude
I work at a place with over 50 15-20 year old daewoo/doosans that all regularly hold .0003 tolerances 24/5 -- and our 2 15 year old mori lathes chatter more .. but they are smaller machines probably 1500lbs lighter. LOL
The tools won't though lol.
You just gotta get your depth of cuts right and tool loads per shank material and size and you can fix any chatter
Agreed you can set a glass of water on top of the machine and watch it shake all day long. I call them the Bob the Builder lathes.
Out of 303, 304, & 316. 316 cuts the best, parts come out beautiful . that was a nice looking job.
303, IMHO cuts the best. Way easier on tools than 304 or 316. None of those hold a candle to 321 stainless.
You should move your M8 down a few lines in the code so the coolant doesn't come on so early. I like to watch the tool moving toward the workpiece with the door open to get a better look at clearances but I would get a bath if I forgot to kill the coolant. I had this problem when we first started using Mastercam. Our reseller was able to adjust the post processor so it defaults on the G54 line when posting the file.
Always wakes you up 😆
I cringe even at the thought of having the door open while the machine is running
These machines can drop down -50.00mm in X, if you adjust your post, you’d be able to hard clamp C2, and just use X and Y to mill the hex. Do have to ensure the other tools don’t foul with the way covers
Hey Titan! We have a Doosan Puma 2600LSY where we do very similar operations - i am curious, approximately how long did you take setting up this part?
Only a observation I would back turn and bore the lead thread for it to be burr free and if that’s a g76 can cycle I would up the second pass to .003 less then the thread depth per side to save some time
are those self-gripping/auto chucks pneumatically powered?
Nice Video.
The metric values for the ID thread seem a bit weird. (7:43)
I think MMPR should be something like 1,81, unless it's one of this weird american threads.
Pls correct me if i am wrong.🧐🧐🧐
this is the finest thread ever made ;)
Cuts sound beautiful.
Very nice, but too slow :)
It probably looks slow because they have the rapid movement turned down
Just curious about the selected Depth of cut of 0.1 mm for OD turning. We do OD turning on 316 with Kenna tools and generally use about 3 mm DOC for roughing.
Appreciate the 316 videos though, keep em coming😀
They didn't change it from 100 thou to mm. DOC was 2.5mm
@@davidnipp Ahh, saw that now. Makes more sense!
Great job.
Started back in a cnc shop today. Turning hastelloy. Man that stuff chews inserts
What is the coolant do you use?
Blaser synergy 735, в начале видео было
Can someone tells me , is this cost effective to machine this type of small parts with cnc specially mass production? Is there no another way to do so?
This is what would have been a screw machine part back when I started in the trade over 40 years ago. Not sure now though.
This machine can move a lot faster, I think they had it on 50% Rapid for the demonstration. Plenty of optimisation can be done if getting cycle time down is a must.
@@TheShred89 Seems to be rather low speed and feedrates also, I think they have been quite much on the safe side. I'm not used to imperial cuttingspeeds, but from what I can see on the metric values there should be potential for a lot faster machining, maybe as much as a 30% reduction in total time.
@@jondenekamp2396 there is not a screw that could make these parts. The part is way too complicated and plus its steel. Also has tight tolerances. Screw machines are a pain just holding a .005 tolerance on brass
Turning Cnc......🤔 ,thats great
I never move the part with the sub spindle till it is cut I use a sandvik narrow blade.
Thanks for this video!👍👍🇩🇪
I wish I could work In a shop this advanced but nope I'm stuck with rebuilt pos
i literally live 20 minutes away from kennametall headquarters, i went to scool with the apprentices from there, i work at a company close to them and we also use a lot of kenna stuff, but also Seco, Vardex, Ingersoll, Emuge and so on theres at leas 2 more but i forgot the names
Best grooving tools from Kennametal🙏 NZ
@@jmjm1920 I guess when it comes to groovy imma put my money on "Horn" but kenna is really good too
Dual spindle, live tool is my next purchase.
So versatile.
5:33 dont you have something better or you spent everything on capto? that was panful to watch
There’s no capto on this machine...
ID Thread with 0.06mm Pitch?
some of the metric speeds and feeds were off by quite a lot, editing mistakes
I don't know when threading operation I feel the chatering sound
Sir turn mill all offset , video
Welcome to Dallas! ❤❤
.0787 METRIC??
Im prety sure its a 2mm endmill...
But I love that sound
Hello
we can see everything with this coolant 💦
13 axis back in 2005.. this 9axis is slow af. ...
You guys need to re-work how you film on this machine. It’s challenging to figure out the depth of stuff. I keep thinking you’re are machining the chuck. Maybe putting the camera at a slight angle rather than straight on would give more perspective of what is in front of what.
I'm guessing everything was turned down? I would have made 10 of those by now! LOL
Apparently you havent been working with 316L ... ever.
Feeds and speeds are ok for stainless 316L, if you want steady production.
Hey titans.... DOCs for metric are wrong (stiil in imperial)
Turned down toake the video +10min. 😁
Metric seems very off
Good 🙄🙄
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Can you public code,i working on doosan puma 2600 sy and doosan dnm 5700 (in Belarus). It will be very interesting how your code looks like. I think code is not ,a big secret,real secret is a technology. Im work 16 years on cnc machines. My first machine was drilling cnc machine (memory on paper tapes ,real trash),second finn-power f6,c6 punching machine (Siemens sinumerik 840d),next laser cutting machine bystronic ,next some bendings cnc machines (very boring work) ,than Danobat line punching+bending cnc machine (fagor),and i change work back 3years ,now working on dosans turn+mill (puma)and milling(dnm). Milling and turning its real top of cnc machine i think,i like read some codes of deferent cnc programmers . So please if you would like ,send code ,or public it (sorry for my English,thats not my real language,so i did a lot of mistakes :)))