Farage Returns: Can He End the Tories?
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Farage is a TWO BOB BORIS
Farage would destroy them both in a Debate! 🇬🇧😆
At 7:00, a figure shows Sinn Fein at 2 seats, but I imagine this was meant to be Plaid Cymru
SOYnews: "Farage Returns: Can He End the Tories?"
ME: "I f***ing hope so! It couldn't happen too soon either...."
Zero seats!
Imagine tories advocating for proportional representation...
Long term it's a good way to keep the Tories away from power, but they may see the appeal at the moment. And Forward Thinking isn't a Tory strength.
yep, though in the uk proportional representation wouldn't work as well since our system of constituencies means we would need to half the number of them in order to allow for a regular fptp system and then have other added in from a pool to bring the PR in line, kind of like how germany do it. personally i prefer the system of smaller constituencies built around a certain number of individuals but fptp is still bad. alternative vote would be better
STV is the answer, perhaps with a proportional representation Lords House (get rid of the peerage seats too).
If the review house is based on shire or devolved kingdom sized PR, and the Commons is STV, I think you get the least worst of both worlds.
@meatballg8655
You would not need to increase the size of constituencies you could simply have run offs in each constituency.
Alternatively you ask voters to record 2nd and 3rd preferences when voting.
Imagine a direct democracy with no parties or lobbyists? 🥺
This entire election season is Sunak saying ‘surely it can’t get any worse’ before it cuts to the narrator saying ‘and then it got worse’
i mean everythings improved over the last few months like inflation
And yet, Sunak called an early election because he has every reason to think things will be *even worse* at the end of the year.
The trouble the Tories face is that they have had 14 years of all say and none do.
The statistics are vile. Everything from housing prices, to wages. They can’t blame covid, as this has been the trend since they took power. The youth are getting f*cked.
That's not true they have done loads to mess us all about.. they gave in to the socialists and locked down the economy destroying peoples lives and racking up debt..
They have been labours best mates. 😂
I nearly agree with you. Under Cameran and May they had power sharing. This means not realy free rein. But under johnson onwards yes.
14 years? The first five years were a coalition with no budget, thanks to the record deficit left by Labour. The next five years were dominated by brexit and the loony Corbyn Labour party who refused to do what people voted for. So from 2019, December we had Boris. Brexit in January and Covid in February for 2 years. Followed by the war in Ukraine and the consequential cost of living crisis. Now an election. All the really big issues are from outside the UK. All I can say is we were lucky we didn't vote for Labour in 2019. The disaster would have been epic. Just like it will be if we do now. War in Europe requires an experienced hand not an amateur.
@@captainbuggernut9565 "record deficit" yeah lets pretend there wasn't a worldwide financial crisis and almost any government would be recoiling from that. The Tories had 14 years to recover and they've done nothing but make this country worse. Try again. you can't blame the Tory's poor performance on extraneous factors outside of their control.
FPTP is such a horrible system. Imagine your party getting 15% of total vote share and only getting 10 seats of the 650 seats.
Imagine getting 15% and 0 seats.
It’s not terrible at all. Just because it has flaws (seats is not directly proportional to vote share) does not mean it’s terrible.
@@SimonFrack name a positive
While I agree it does seem unfair, the problem is that each constituency still needs to elect an mp that represents them, can deal with their issues and knows the local people (in theory). How do we get the best of both? Reduce the number of constituencies and set aside about 100 or so MP positions that are filled by MP's according to each independant candidate/party's percentage of votes cast?
@@seans6999 There are a few, depending on what you’re comparing it to.:
-Each constituency gets representation
-That representation was from the most popular party in that area
-It allows independent candidates to run on a local issue, which cannot happen under a proportional nationwide vote system
-It tends to lead to stable situations that don’t require regular elections due to coalitions breaking down
I’m sure there are more, I’m not a political expert.
Zero seats for the Tories!
Could you imagine? As much as I'd laugh I'd be shocked, it would be a huge historical moment!
I don't think that would be so great really. Too big a majority causes the leading party to start to lose cohesion.
Good man, zero seats!
@@istherenofreename good, conservatism and social democracy are old systems that needs replacement. The more cohesion they lose the better.
FPTP needs to go.
@@splodge561 All I said was FPTP needs to go. I never said we needed to use the "alternative vote" system presented in 2011.
Stop jumping to conclusions.
@@splodge561 Cry more Tory boy...
Reform UK will get 3 MPs at best but will shrink the Tories to an even worse defeat than we thought.
I’d say 10 at best, they were polled 3-4 only recently and many seats are flippable
Hooray
3 mp's is huge, getting in parliament is borderline impossible for new parties.
Polling isn’t always accurate, there may be a much higher turnout among the racists than expected because of Farage’s return
Reform UK are just Splitters then
If Reform doesn't win a single seat, but constricts votes to the Tories even more, then that's a mission well done. A broken Tories is the future of the UK.
Yeah but it reform does win seats. I could not deal with those morons sitting in parliament.
As a German, let me introduce you to the concept of proportional representation. We have been running it since 1949 and it is working well.
Well, you know what, the Welsh and Scottish Assemblies use a much better system than Westminster. It combines proportional with having constituencies and there´s no reason why we couldn´t use it for the Westminster elections, other than that neither Labour nor the Tories want to get rid of it.
I'm a Kiwi and I fucking love it! I do wish the threshold was lower or had some ranked system in place though.
Tell us, how did proportional representation work in Germany in the 1930s?
@@Minimmalmythicist Actually, the German system also combines proportional voting with constituencies. Both is important to ensure that all parts of the country are represented while still the parties get as much power in parliament as they get vote share from the people. And yes, the big players having no interest in making things fairer for the smaller ones is quite a problem.
@@SvenSkottke You did. Weimar Republic had proportional representation, allowing the rise of the Brownshirt party by giving extremists a platform.
The tories are already finished. Labour have nothing to offer other than their not the tories. Its time for the end of the two party system.
I mean proportional representation is out there in the wild in other democracies...
If labour decide not to get rid of FPTP, I'm going to be extremely annoyed.
But I can well and truly seeing them winning and thinking "Tori's wiped out, now it's just us vs lots of smaller, we'd be mad to get rid of it", being as short sighted and full of bell ends just as they were last time it was on the table. ... And we got 12 years of the sodding Tory's to thank for it.
Unfortunately, the best opportunity for reform of voting is for it to be a tight election and major party having to form coalition with a minor party who makes that the core agreement to signing up.
Hopefully who ever that is, they're not as gullible as the Lib Dems were last time, and let it go to a referendum while the major parties control all the media and narrative, pretty much deciding the outcome before it even starts.
@@davescott7680prepare to be disappointed
oh, I give even odds on labour moving to the right, and some variation/alliance around the lib-dems becoming the left. There, back to two party system! (Going by how historically the parties change in the uk..)
You mean as opposed to the labour who did offer something different, only to be laughed out of most of their seats in the last election. The voting public is too right-wing for a left-wing party to succeed, at least as the political climate stands right now
The whole reason we had Brexit was out of fear of Farage siphoning seats from the tories, despite everything we've been through the last 8 years, that's happening anyway
tories just riding the waves, no brain just waddling about trying to not collapse
The Tories never realised that what actually drove Brexiteers was mass immigration and Islamisation, this is why Reform are doing so well
I figured Brexit was pushed by the rich as a way to leech even more money out of the common people.
The whole reason for Brexit is because of a narrow minded public who are ignorant and mind warped by media.That's what made Brexit happen.
The Tories and Brexit (totally linked to Tories, after Boris kicked out the committed remainers) keep promising to cut immigration and it keeps going up. Reform will get votes until whoever the government is actually tackles it.
_“Big man, huge man, tears in his eyes, he said to me, Nigel, Sir, why aren’t you standing?”_
As believable as Trump always saying "Many people are saying..."
@@glennjanot8128 think he said both...
It’s faridges sir story. Were they drinking a milkshake nige?
😂 this comment kill me, I almost heard his voice 😂
I'm not alone in picking up the Trump in that statement
If Reform became the opposition to Labour, it might make some interesting politics
If Reform become the official opposition, Labour will be in trouble because all eyes will be on them. Reform have no previous precedent on running the country. Labour have run the country before and have failed.
I want the opposition to be Green, but it's more likely to be LD if the Tories are crushed enough. It certainly won't be reform. Not at this election anyway. They might get a lot more at the next one.
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Those screaming zero seats are odd. Our appalling electoral system isn’t the flex you think it is people 🙄 the Greens AND Reform both suffer under FPTP
Maybe they don't really like the Greens either. Just a thought.
Zero seats are people who are genuinely conservative whether that be socially or economic that the tories are not actually conservative and should have zero seats
How can you be shaming people that don't enough; literal ignorance. After all politics is a taboo subject. Come down off your high horse and explain it, rather than just the typing with vitriol. What does FPTP mean?
Zero seats!
Zero seats
Clear them out
The tories would still be toast without Farage
Nigel is just pushing them off the cliff
Yes, but now the toast is going to be so burnt it's likely to be thrown away.
The NHS has collapsed due to underspending and privatisation, why does anyone think that privatising it further would fix it? Unless you're a millionaire there's no reason to be envious of the enormously expensive privatised alternative model seen in the US.
I assumed you all saw Americas healthcare and the money you could make at the expense of the people of your country
I think it's probably far more the fault of underspending on the NHS if I'm honest, not to mention it had a very hard time keeping up during covid and having a million extra people to account for each year definitely isn't helping.
Don't we spend more on the NHS now than ever before in history?
The great British nationals are in no need of NHS and their life would be so much better without pointless taxes for a finding of something for the weak.
Also the failure of the NHS opens up incredible opportunities for people to capitalise the healthcare system.
@@Thereisnogreatersword literally where did you get that number from. The UK’s population grows by about 200,000 a year, about half of all growth is immigration, and most immigrants immediately become taxpayers while also not being able to reap the full benefits of the NHS. Population growth isn’t the root issue.
If Reform actually put forward Conservative views then they can absolutely do so! I don't think theres many who actually believe the tories actually stand for anything these days
They stand far austerity, and corporate dominance just like any other conservative party
Well they have shown they can be at least as racist.
But conservative views kinda suck. Or what do you think they are?
@@grimaffiliations3671 and private healthcare, which i doubt many of their supporters can afford.
Bru... you are trusting in the SAME GUY that ran away after the Brexit vote? 💀💀💀
An hour ago You Gov: 40% Labour, 19% Tories and 17% Reforom
As a Canadian, I always feel like someone is just waving a laser at the floor and the UK population and political class just endlessly chases it like a cat. Nothing gets done, everyone is just running around trying to catch the moving red dot.
😂😂😂🔥🔥👏
This is an excellent way of looking at it
It's not as bad as here in Canada where Trudeau has destroyed Canada
You should be a political commentator, that was so accurate!
We have justin Trudeau, we have it the worst of any g7 country
Love or Hate Reform UK, if they do end up with a 15% vote share to the Torys 20/25% but one ends up with 0/3 seats and the other still get within the 100's (give or take) then that's shameful.
I appreciate the flaws with PR, but FPTP isn't exactly a fantastic system.
This isn't even factoring in how this may help Lib Dem, Green and parties in Scotland, Wales and NI.
There is no perfect voting system, but FPTP might be the worst system.
@@OriginalPiManwell there (sort of) is. Athens and the Isle of Man both held annual parliaments at which every freeborn person with a todger got the chance to vote for or strike down laws.
Of course, that's slightly less practical for larger and far more populous states .... but we DO have t'internet these days, so maybe the notion of electing representatives you've never met and beholden to pretty anyone barring you may have a finite shelf-life?
@@howardrisby9621 using an ancient and, crucially, failed state is an abysmal way to propose a solution to current issues. Clearly, the system in Athens didn't work.
Well. . .it's looking more like they are going to get 22% to the Tories' 18/19%, so maybe not.
@@arthurschildgen5522
While possible, that remains a very unlikely outcome.
Now a YouGov poll says that Reform is 2 points behind the Tories (19% Con 17% Ref).
This could be *the* end of the Tories.
registerd to vote today :) ZERO SEATS!
wait to who? the conservatives?
@@MrBurnsExcellent Yep :)
Will you vote Reform?
Hopefully you will be voting for an independent or Reform and not the two party scam.
@@ermin2248 Although I like some of their policies such as the nhs vouchers their social issues polices are somewhat ludicrous banning "inapproprate sex education" seems to be very harmful.
The worst part of our politics system is the level of hate between voters, look at yourselves, calling each other derogatory names in the comments when on the day to day you have no reason to dislike one another. The 2 party system we are suffering from sets people up to feel like they are on a team and the others team is the enemy.
I like to discuss politics, I just don't know enough to really know what I'm saying. Makes me ignorant, but if someone hates me for it, that say more about them imo.
An enlightened centrist appears. Thank god we really needed one right now.
I just don't like my friends setting their pfps to that of a human figure pissing on the pride flag, I don't see why make peace with that or come to a "compromise"
The only hate or at best apathy is from the right. I'd vote for anyone with good policies, not tribally and I'm happy to debate where needed.
Tories just think everything is the dreaded communism, and do not want to have their mind changed. That's the reason why it's established now that tory voters don't switch, they just don't bother voting, or vote for a more extreme party.
@@JasonAtlasI'll take an enlightened centrist over someone meat riding a political party any day of the week. What have labour or the tories done to deserve unconditional loyalty in the past two decades?
Brexit was supposed to fix Great Britain, but it has led to the fact that now it is the English who come to Poland, not the Poles to England.
Why not they got hundreds of billions from the EU and millions of Poles sent back huge sums of their wage slips back Into the Polish economy, maybe we should all go to Poland that's where the money is 😂😂😂
It was never supposed to fix Britain, Brexit was supported by the media conglomerates of Rupert Murdoch and Lord Rothschild because they could never manipulate Brussels. But they can manipulate Downing Street.
Name one Englishman that has gone to Poland
@@AmateurHEROduelist How's your economy not bounced back after 2 decades with that incredible budget deficit gone?
You do realise one of the main purposes of the EU is to improve the wealth of its poorer members? It's why the UK was a net contributor for 4 and a half decades.
Secret globalists versus open globalists. At least Labour is honest about it.
Aussie here. Just stopped by to say you guys really really need preferential voting for the Commons, and perhaps proportional voting for the Lords (with no appointments, a fully elected upper house). I'd also advocate mandatory voting as we have here in Australia. Results are absolutely legitimate and representative.
This is part 1 of Farage becoming Tory leader - show them he can take their core voters (the ones who refuse to vote Labour) and let them get even more obliterated than they were going to previously. Part 2 is spend the next 5 years pointing out how bad Labour are doing and how limp the Tories are in opposition. Part 3 is put himself forward as a charismatic, Boris-type populist to save them at the NEXT general election, which they will probably go for because they have scraped the barrel of candidates already. Quite smart really, whatever you think of the man and his politics...
Opportunism in politics? I'm shocked! 😳
A Farage led Conservative party isn't going to win centrist voters over. That'd just ensure Labour stay in power for 15 years.
Boris had his time as London Mayor and Foreign Secretary as leverage and benefitted from the 2019 election being a referendum on Brexit as well as a the most left wing Labour leadership in decades.
People do not forget Farage's role in Brexit, he wouldn't be as successful as Boris.
I do hope so.
I may be labour. But I’d rather a right-wing opposition that actually has some values.
Those screaming REFORM getting zero seats are odd. Our appalling electoral system isn’t the flex you think it is people 🙄 the Greens AND Reform both suffer under FPTP
That new Workers' Party will too, I'm sure
The Greens are the worst party!
At least in Australia, we have the senate.
Although it's not great, at least we get to vote for it (unlike the House of Lords).
...The "Reform UK" party wants literally anything except for meaningful reform. Their entire platform (what little of it that's intelligible...) is just attempting to "stop the woke" and whatnot.
Come on TLDR, you've missed half the story!! We need to know about the man in the dolphin costume that got more votes than Farage last time. Is his nemesis standing?
Crime is through the roof and daily acts of atrocity are committed against local Brits by newcomers.
But you would rather talk about funny dolphin costumes than have difficult conversations about why our country is declining.
I bet those Dolphin are behind those attacks @@museli_addict
@@museli_addict Isn't crime largely down apart from fraud? And how about all the newcomers keeping our care homes running?
TLDR didn't mention it because Farage didn't lose to a Dolphin man. It was made up.
I heard he's been released.
But count bin face has sent for reinforcements!
When he explained why he was running I heard Trump with his fake stories of interactions
I've heard Nigel is quite close with trumps team. People like Steve Bannon. The people behind Trump and Nigel have clearly found the recipe for igniting the emotionally illogical voters and just like in history the more impoverished we become the more of those voters there will be and the larger Nigels influence will grow. I'm Concerned
Farage is actually pals with that criminal.
Yea, it also felt really obvious and insincere
Probably describing them as illogical isn’t the best way to win them over…
@@JoshuaFindlay Claiming that the conservative base has more "emotional voters" is insane. Especially considering the issues that the liberal base puts out as most important (usually extremely trivial issues that only emotional people would prioritize).
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Sunak should use the secret weapon against Farage...The Dolphin!
Nigel Farage on Friday the 5th of July " When I told westminster I'll be leading Reform and standing as an MP, they all laughed at me. Well you're not laughing now are you"
It may not end the Tories, Farage standing in Clacton, but what I think it will do, to Labour's benefit, is further split the right wing vote, clearing the path for Labour to gain power even more
Didn’t glaze Nigel or demonise him. Well done
As all news should be
These guys usually do a pretty good job being unbiased in my opinion. I know others would disagree but I'm glad they didn't slander Nigel.
Yeah, pretty surprised the smug kid with the milkshakes pic wasn't shown as it was on every other news channel
"Nigel"? Are you a rotarian by any chance?
@@howardrisby9621 ???
Both Labour and Tories ultimately need to go into the dustbin of history and be replaced with fresh parties with new ideas. Labour are too strong atm, but this is the best possible chance to get rid of the Tories.
I hope more people kn the left are giving independents a chance, they are the best hope we can get of reforming the left while farage is reforming the right.
I´m backing Corbyn in Islington
Labour Vs Conservatives ❌
Lib Dems Vs Reform ✅
Thank you for once a comment i agree with. Most here seem to love the endless circle of rubbish and think all our political problems stem from the last 12-14 years of Torie rule all our politics need rethinking new parties and change. I am not voting Labour no thanks or Tories but I am at a loss who I agree with most after that. Will take some chin scratching
Yes
Huh? They already ended themselves , u give him far too much credit, Farage is the symptom not the cause!
This is possibly the most depressing election I've ever been through.
Why??
Idd why? Voting for the tories isn't an obligation right?
@@nopants3560 at a guess id wager its because the country is on the line and not one of the party leaders are actually good candidates for running the country. It really is a voting the least shit one. Farage rearing his froggy head doesnt help either
Yet
You always choose between a douche and a turd sandwich.
Thanks
Politics in the UK certainly need Reform
Just not Farage
Deform party
Expect no change whoever wins, that way you’ll not be disappointed
Eat a live toad first thing every morning and nothing worse will happen to you all day.
"thats not the end of the story though..." yes ... yes it is lol
One good thing with Farage changing his mind about standing is that we can now have a vote to change our mind on Brexit ,in his words it’s allowed.
farage is a tory hes laughing at you guys right now 🤣🤣🤣
The problem is the Tories are no-longer Tory 💀
@@dftfire What part of what they've done over the last decade has differed at all from their MO since Thatcher?
Has there ever been a 7 time failed MP given one national radio interview. Let alone be on TV and radio more than any other MP in the country including the prime minister and leader of the opposition
Yes like it or not George Galloway and Nigel Farage are some of the most known people in British politics.
@@joel425 and they are only well known because the media keeps on putting them on the news, at Least Galloway won a seat, his party won more seats than reform in the local elections and he's on news media about a 50th of the amount of time Farage is on.
Farage may not have been an MP, but he led ukip to win millions of votes and overcame the odds to get Britain out of the eu. Like it or not, he’s indisputably achieved quite a bit.
@@Alex-cw3rzfarage represents more people than rishi sunak or kier starmer combined.
@@bt82 they won millions of votes because in 2015 his party was on the news as much as the government and shadow government and at times more than all parties combined...
It wasn't against the odds they constantly l ied and the use of Cambridge analytica that won brexit.
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The Tories don't need any help
Nigel “i moved all my financials out of the UK as soon as Brexit passed” Farage?
Source? I know his bank tried to drive him out of the UK, but I suspect you're getting him confused with Jacob Rees-Mogg here.
@@rad4924Source for his bank “trying to drive him out of the UK”?
All that happened is that he was offered a normal account instead of a rich person one. And then he took a hissy fit.
Funny because I seem to recall he got debanked by NatWest recently, who are most definitely a UK bank. Stop talking shit.
@@rad4924And just how exactly did his bank try to drive him out of the UK? If you're going to bullshit us, do please try to make it sound vaguely credible.
Being debanked by the banking system is not the same as "moving finances out of the UK'.
As I will never give my vote to a party that opposes democracy (Labour and Conservative are both in favour of maintaining their rigged voting system) I will vote Reform UK as they are in favour of proportional representation. This is the only policy that matters because until we get PR we will never have a parliament that represents us.
Well libdems are aiming for pr too. And they're also aiming for tory seats. Both will eat each other so the local tory will win in fptp anyway.
As a soon-to-be Brit by descent, this warms the bollocks of my parts. 💪🏻💪🏻
He is always 'U' tuning. He said he would leave the country if Brexit failed. Brexit is an utter failure, yet he is still here!
What about the amount of lefty luvvy celebrities that said they would leave the country if we voted for Brexit, and yet they are still here?
Plus we didn't get the Brexit that Farage wanted. The Tories controlled that - he had nothing to do with it.
The Tories are being voted out because they didn't do anything with it, why is that Farages fault? He handed them all the tools.
Brexit is a success
His version of Brexit was never introduced. Brexit was supposed to reduce migration which hasn't been done by the conservative government...
@@mlgfrog27Brexit has zero linkage to non-EU migration, which was always in the government’s control and has always made up a large proportion of the people coming to the UK.
Voting for Brexit and expecting non- European immigration to go down wasn’t a “version of Brexit”, it was something that was already possible.
And that’s how Brexiteers were confused about what they were actually voting for.
Did i miss the outcome of the investagation into the 99% of his donation that were illegal? Or does the UK just ignore crimes by rich conservitives?
You did mate. Catch up
Why is there not more scrutiny and in depth questions about Nigel Farage party's views on whether or not we should have backed Hitler. Farage simply can't deal with scrutiny.
The thing is, there is no solution for this problem the Tories put themselves in. If another party is elected, they will fail miserably too. The only way to solve this mess is to create a deal just like Norway has with the EU. This will pretty much mean the UK is back in the EU without any power to influence it.
But we do need a reliable and strong opposition - where is that??
Lib Dems?
@@matthewparker9276 Yes.
I'm not sure we do, to be honest. We're used to one big party in power and one slightly smaller party in opposition, as a result of FPTP. But we could absolutely have coalition governments and loose alliances of opposition parties.
@@NataliePine Whatever helps keep them accountable - cant rely on mainstream media these days for sure...
@@matthewparker9276 You might just about get a pin between all three Parties - Labour, Tory and Liberals.
It's not just the Tory party that should be worrying. Im in the north of England, a Labour Party area ... most people are talking lets go reform
Though the loudest mouths aren´t necessarily the most representative.
Reform is Nigel's party. He lied about how much better things would get for us with Brexit. He does not have out interests at heart.
He's a typical southerner that's chosen to rile up the racists.
People voting for him have either been decided or agree with his views on minorities.
Where's the evidence of that?
He's a southerner that promised we'd be better off after his Brexit project.
Southerner that says what you want to hear.
He's after racists and fools. Don't vote for him.
Keep in mind that "the people one person talks to on the regular" are not a representative sample
So they'd send NHS patients to private care. Well, that will just clog up the private system. The DRAFT watermark should read DAFT.
Haven't Labour proposed the same-thing though?
I'm sure they've said to reduce the backlog they are open to sending NHS patients to private hospitals and medical-centres, but will only pay the same as it would cost on the NHS for like-for-like treatments.
Are Labour daft too? 🤔
@@dftfire They all are. There's no real choice.
didn't this man serially lie during his brexit campaign; wasn't that proven in so many articles. I don't understand how Brits can even consider him, this is stupider than Brexit.
Why does everyone give this man so much air time? He gets far more than the Liberal Democrat’s, SNP and Greens. It’s the reasons he’s so influential because whatever he does the media reports every word. He plays you all. I get so annoyed how his lies often go unchallenged
Love him or hate him, he gets far more votes than those three parties. By a considerable margin.
30.9% of the vote in the 2019 European election
3,886,000 votes in 2015.
He and whichever party he leads consistently poll at around 10-15%.
The Greens usually poll at less than 5%
The Lib Dems at 5-10%. (since 2010)
The SNP at 3-5%
When the media is owned by klepto-fascist oligarchs that destroyed the country, they want fascism or fascism light under starmer, social democracy would mean an end to unregulated wealth and their fleecing of public services and taxpayers money. This county is an oligarchy not a democracy.
Thats why becauses he pisses people like you off so it makes for good viewing. Bad politic makes the news far more so people get riled and it works amazingly
He's one of the most influential politicians in British politics for decades. Why wouldn't he get airtime?
The Oligarchy loves fascists, the Oligarchs control the media.
You could have usefully noted that Reform is not constituted as a conventional political party but as a limited company wholly owned and controlled by Tice and Farage.
non-bri'ish here, if everyone hates brexit why is this even happening? is it just hate for the tories?
On the one hand, Farage and his fascists disgust me, on the other, even less Conservative MPs. Very hard to decide whether this is a win
Its a loss, just look further than the short term. Farage has radicalised people into xenophobic bigots and it might desend this country into fascism. Not to mention that Keir Starmer will be very weak to him and will just sponge further off them only legitimising them further. Im disgusted by the state of this country.
Will Brian Butterfield be running this time?
I shall have to get some election bonbonbonbons in order to celebrate!
Wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up being an election like Canada 1992.
Of course he can, he got Britain to buy Brexit.
He's not wrong to say something is happening, and people are rejecting the political class. There are just rejecting people like farage
Well, when is nothing happening? It's just a rhetorical safe-player because he can't exactly comprehend what is actually happening.
wrong
I would hope so, as the slimy git would certainly do nothing but damage to the UK. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to support him anyway, for whatever selfish short term reasons they have.
we'll see about that
Not a word spoken about the actual politics!
I sure hope so.
Whether or not you support Tory, there is a worrying aspect to their disappearance. Lib-Dem, Greens, nor Reform UK are likely to ever be in a position to run the country. Do we really want to become what is, effectively, a one party state?
I get what you're saying, but what's the alternative?
If people continue to vote Conservative, and each-time they get in they don't do what they've promised, that's just rewarding failure, surely?
That's what the left wing brainwashed want lol.
Vote reform.
well if your a right of centre voter like me and have been disappointed with the conservatives and wont vote labour then yes the reform party has a very high percentage of getting my vote now that would have usually gone to the Tories
How can you continue to be right of center after the last 14 years? You know you can change your opinion. Read other party Manifestos and it's likely they will address the issues you feel in this country
Why not Libdem? They are better right-centrist than reform
Reform UK is much further right than centre-right, the Lib Dems are more centre-right or centre-left (depending on the local candidates).
@@MM-un3ob lib-dems aren't right-centrist. It's a dyed in the wool Waitrose-left party.
you would rather let labour win?
ZERO SEATS!!!
likley a couple seats now
@@quackcement thanks for clarifying 👍
It's an old poll.
Tbf that’s due to the first past the post voting System , it rewards geographical concentration of votes not overall votes
How many seats are the Tories getting?
ZERO SEATS ZERO SEATS ZERO SEATS
Labour will very likely win a decent majority and the tories will crawl away to lick their wounds but make no mistake they will be back.
I’d like to see proportional representation but I’m not holding my breath.
In other news that tv debate was something
Well it existed.
I don't like to talk mess about a person's looks, especially when they already have *so much* legitimate villainy on their resume to tear them a new one over. But Farage is so over-the-top cartoonishly freaky looking I get a little closer to believing in alien lizard men conspiracies every time he shows up... 😬
Your average tory party voter probably has some level of expectations for lower taxes or reasonable economic growth, balanced or mild budget deficits, and debt, and of course controlled drastically reduced immigration. On all three points the Tory party record is hardly likely to impress them. Add to this incessant party infighting and the self-fulfilling belief that they are going to lose big anyways and Reform has a real chance of being the second party by vote share. Maybe traditional party/tribal identity and loyalty is what will ultimately save the tories from third place.
You can’t barrage the Farage!!
Why, oh why, do politicians only speak 3 words at the most, pause, then speak 3 more words. It's really irritating.
The Lib Dems and Labour have long since split the centre-left vote. If a modestly, piffilingly succesful part emerges to the right of the Conservatives, great.
Exactly the left has always been divided while the right hasn't.
Sounds like labour shouldn't have sodding campaigned against LibDems referendum on voting reform. Short sighted gits.
@@davescott7680 Perhaps, but you can't accuse anyone of being more shortsighted and self-foot-shooting than David Cameron
Hey, TLDR, how come you guys aren't giving any coverage to *_Jovan Owusu-Nepaul?_* He's the candidate most likely to win Clacton, and it would be appropriate to give him some air time and get his name out there.
The only coverage Farage needs is with more milkshake.
Jovan who?
Did you say jovan the fart hole?
He's gonna lose to reform, he doesn't need any coverage
The tories are getting torn
BIG CHUNGUS
"People come up to me on the street and say...."
Been borrowing from Trump's repertoire of phrases I see.
In reality they come up to him on the street to give him free milkshake
Not wrong, have u seen the size of that rally? The milkshake witch was arrested 😂😂
Did they call him 'Sir' ?
He’s a more eloquent Trump basically.
The tories has a minor recovery today, debate didn't go well for Starmer as it was a dead heat which is bad when you are so far ahead
Well I voted for brexit and for the brexit party. Will I be supporting Reform? No. As Mr Curtice pointed out the voters who will decide this election will not be Labour supporters or Conservative voters, it will be the currently undecided. People like me. Although I am decided, now, I will vote for the leader with experience not the guy with none.
good, well-balanced, non-bias video from TLDR.
Nigel, no one came up to on the street and said anything.
people definitely would. Why is that hard to believe?
@@samuelmelton8353Because if Farage actually left his mansion and walked down the streets, we’d hear so many more stories about him being egged/milkshaked.
@@Neutralino We do hear a lot of stories about him being milkshaked lol
I think there's enough people who do genuinely support him that he meets in the street. You can deny it all you want, but a lot of people like him.
@@samuelmelton8353Only when he’s on the campaign trail. If he actually walked down the street, that’d be a daily occurrence.
It might be a lot, but it’s still a small minority of the overall population that like him.
@@Neutralino All parties in the UK have support from a minortiy of the population - for one individual, Farage appeals to a good portion of those. I also imagine that he tends to hang around areas that are more 'pro Reform' than others.
Just to say - I am not a Farage supporter, quite the opposite. But I absolutely believe that he goes out in public and plenty offer him encouragement.
There is a small part of me that wants Farage to finally get into government only for people to see him for who he really is. Slightly fed up of one issue political manifestos with nasty hidden undertones dominating politics since about 2014. Get it over with!
I bet Liz Truss will be super popular in a decade as people have memory issues in this country.
@@Napoleon1123 yep. If you can convince certain voters that you are going to be tough on immigration (the one issue I am talking about, although it was disguised in Brexit form at one point) and that you will make the tax situation amazing (something the tories have been harping on about for the last 14 years and look where it’s got us!) then, yes, people will forget and vote you in. Even though there are thousands of other issues out there that, if fixed, will make everyone’s lives better.
Well one issue political manifestos are better than the sh*tshow that the Tories and Labour have going on now. Incompetent parties that are all over the place.
What if he got into government and made the uk a better place by reducing house prices due to less Immigration and also improved the NHS? would this upset your bias that you voted wrong for the last 20 years and believed all the left wing bias that was all that Was offered on mainstream tv?
Would you be embarrassed how gullible you was?
To all those saying 'No seats!', for now maybe. But if polling percentages keep increasing eventually they could eclipse the Tories by the next GE or the one after that. Farage and many reform speakers have said they dont aim to win much this GE, but the polling numbers are important, for them its a start.
As a Tory, RS should have anticipated that former Tory NF was basically a liar and opportunist.
I Hooe your voting reform, it's the last chance the countries got
Reform UK isn't a political party, it's a company.
@stephenclark9917...Its a grifting organisation that plays of the emotional sentiments of lower class/working class who live in their GBnews bubble full of anger and muh muh western civilization narratives.
not a political party?
It's quite obviously a political party
@@robhingstonIt's sort of a weird technical thing. It postures and behaves like a political party, but is actually a corporation. It's structured this way so Farage has much more direct personal control.
Another one...
UKIP -> Brexit -> Reform ->
What party will Farrage make next?
I'm going to go out on a limb here but I think it will be the "Retake Northern Ireland" party.
@@SocialDownclimber more like "Retake Ireland party" since he and his cronies form Brexit are oblivious about good Friday agreement.
The new conservative party after he takes over what's left of the tories.
Let's hope so.
I'm so sick and tired of this idea of Farage being "one of us. A man of the people." He's been a politician for 25+ years. He is the political class he thinks he's opposing
Farage is one of us, that's why my household of 5 is voting for him
@@JackGreen-gh6sw I'm sure they are, FirstLast-RandomLettersAndNumbers
Uk polititcian goes back on his word. Great way to start an election campaign 😂. At this point its like picking which crocodile is going to bite your leg off.