CALIBAN, THE MOST UNDERRATED FRAME... (WARFRAME)
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Great stuff dude, keep up the good work. Glad to be of inspiration!
Playing for fun is 100% how it should be, there's a reason I have been playing for almost 10 years now.
Yoooo what’s up bro?
refreshing to see a content creator building for fun and not meta and using whatever they want. brings me back to oldframe when i would try to make a build using 3 and 1 of old hydroid prerework
Nah i'd adapt
Regarding Arcane Aegis, it's functionally almost identical in terms of survivability between R0 and R5, so even just a single copy is worth picking up
Yup, huge winner of the arcane changes back then!
How is it functionally almost identical though? I'd think a 25% difference would be much better and more noticeable.
Running Harrow's helminth on his first solved a lot of issues for me personally. Some decent range, strength and duration in the build and he's pretty fun even if you never use his 1st, subsume or not. Great video!
I did the same. You just need something to kickstart his lads' shield regen. With at least 200% strength you get two wide-range full strip AoEs similar to Xaku (who is good!). Sure his 2 doesn't work on everything and it's slow, but damage vulnerability is powerful.
The reason he's worse than other frames is that other frames just... Do more. Frost has better CC and crit buffs and overguard, for example.
@@Glamador Caliban's stomp is pretty fun too. I put it on Rev for them thematic feel, and it brings a lot to the table to a kit that lacks a damage buff and potent CC. Roar would be overall better, but it's far less cool.
I use my Caliban with Breach Surge in place of his 1. I tried Condemn on him, but with a bit of range and atleast one augur mod, Breach Surge is much better option than Condemn. It CCs enemies and allows the conculysts to clear rooms once you armor strip eith his 4. Also tried Warcry on him, but seems it doesnt affect his Conculysts.
Started using Wrathful Advance over his 1st, and there's nothing more satisfying than one-shoting everything with the war. If it doesn't die in one-shot, adding Sentient Wrath for extra damage should. If still not dead, use the armor and shield deleting lasers. Use the basmu for thematic choice and healing, and between his passive, regen mods, taxon (of all the sentinels) and his sentients his shields rarely breaks, and never stays broken.
For a non melee focused build I run Eclipse, with the new update to the ability it's easier to use, and it's 75% damage reduction also stacks on top of shields 50% DR and Caliban's built in budget Adaptation. Use the Augment for Eclipse to share your DR with the squad and become the ultimate version of Adaptation. Bonus if you can get a Citrine on the squad for an additional 75% DR.
So, I had a realization like this with Protea. I've lived so long on my Equinox that I forgot how other frames worked; Protea is a breathe of fresh air and I've been using her non stop with heavy ability usage. Saving this video for when Caliban primes. I already fed him to the plant, so i'm not farming him again until then.
Great video, mr. Guap.
Damm didn't expect you to be on Warframe
Returned a few months back and been playing catch up ever since. Your channel has become one of my favs. Been binging your videos and aspire to achieve your quality.
honestly love ur apex vids i didnt kno i were the same person super surprising tbh
dont know you at all, never heard of your channel, but a friend linked it to me and seeing t he thumbnail and title makes this calibro happy
At least in the current meta, access to constant shield regen, a pseudo-gathering armor strip, and a radial CC debuff doesnt seem that bad.
Hey I'm glad to see A New Perspective on a Warframe that a lot of people consider kind of trash. I would like to see some more videos from you in the future. Definitely keep it up
Guapee in warframe?!?! My day just got EVEN better
RUclips algorithm finally promoting some good content! Keep up the great work!
Aye thanks man. I seen some of your work too, you're goated.
I'm hype to see this. Someone little said to me, while playing Duviri, "Really? Caliban? In THIS economy!?" 💀
Ik this vid is three months old but Ty for not letting caliban down ma man 🤝
DUDE NO WAY THIS IS GUAPEE
Love the video bro happy you branched out into warframe! Caliban was a warframe that caught my eye mainly because his abilities looked cool, (mainly his 4th) just never ended up getting him because of the grind and that Qorvex filled that spot for me because i find his abilities so fun while still dishing it out. I have a few ideas for him and more from your video. Cheers mate, keep up the good work! P.s. you also inspired me to pick up rev again use to play him in s5 =D
Late comment, but I had a few questions:
1. How good are the Sentient clones in terms of pulling aggro from Caliban? Obviously I don’t expect something as strong as Loki’s Decoy, but is it at least enough to keep most enemies off of him? And if not, would it be advised to bring a Hound with a disarm setup and radiation to help with CC?
2. I heard some people saying that Harrow’s subsume is a good option on him, is this true?
3. How tanky are the Sentient clones? Did they die often at high survival levels? Been thinking of taking Caliban to Void Cascade
Awesome video, and even more awesome fashion!
Sentients pull aggro decently well usually. And very tanky, since they have the same damage gate mechanics as enemy sentients I've not seen them die before their timer runs out at all even on SP survival.
About the hounds, you can use Contagious bond + Manifold bond and a hound weapon with heat and rad for status primer(I use the electric ball prospectus). Enemies everywhere are either going to be on fire or attacking other enemies. The heat procs stack so your hound can room clear SP enemies too with status spread from contagious bond
As for subsumes, Harrow's or Wisp's are the best options, apart from Nourish, but that is good no matter what frame you put it on.
Condemn from harrow will help you get your shields back up for the shield regen from gis summons to apply if you don't use any augur mods and Wisp's breach surge is good cc and aoe damage.
Nourish causes the summons to become aoe stunners. Attacks on them cause the viral explosion which staggers enemies in radius and causes viral procs
You know why your opinion is so much more valuable to me than other content creators? Because youre actually playing the game. Youre using the frame, youre testing and building which cant be said for the countless tier list generators that also make warframe content.
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New player are flabbergasted when I tell them how op trinity was during the raid days 😂😂
Was my first prime as a new player, thx to a giveaway thing back then, and boy! Was she good back then. Still one of the tankiest frames out there and she has some neat tricks with the true damage of Enery Vampire.
Finally, ppl are understanding how good Caliban is, my caliban has 7 forma and i replaced his 1 with roar, now bro has dmg buff, dmg vul, armor strip, shield regen and natural adaptation. Literally only very few frames in the game can do that
And the armor strip is a huge ass AoE zone that lingers, only Xaku iirc has that available.
This was the first video of yours i EVER SAW
Great vid, I'm subbing
Awesome vid, ill have to farm caliban now. Subbed
Best armor/shield stripping available even surpassing The Lost Gaze.
Decent decoys contributing toward best shield recharge in game.
Great tactical except with obvious downsides.
Technically no passive. No augements. Yet. Unfortunately mandatory Casting Speed stat required.
Icky fashion but can be good when primed.
Also, never played this frame
5:08 he only gives himself shield regen but the 4 and 2 are quite clutch
This video got me to finally finish farming for Caliban
Yeah he's alright at his job, but in the day and age where we have nearly 60 frames, you gotta REALLY stand out to have any kind of normal playrate. Not saying that's good or bad, just how it is.
In my opinion, Caliban isnt the best frame out there, but they are definitely fun to play, and the dumb stuff you can pull off makes them enjoyable, in a similar light, it's why I like Zephyr as well.
When i read calibans kit it actually looks pretty good. Espically his 2 and 4. Way better than loki thats forsure
I think he just needs rework to his 1 and some ability QOLs and he'll be an insanely good frame that is still. Like his passive should stack with adaptation, his 3's shield regen should be constant instead of only triggering with existent shields. Both his 3 and 4 need a small energy cost reduction as his three costs a combined 150 energy for all 3 drones which is absurd and his 4 costing 100 energy and being limited to a small fixed area makes run and gun not very viable. Also maybe change his 2 to give a different cc effect? Lifted is not the best since it makes enemies float everywhere and also makes headshots impossible which in this incarnon prominent meta makes lifted not very desirable. I personally quite like the idea to for it to give the enemies the void status which I think makes for great survivability as well as preserving the ability to give a CO status. Caliban is definitely not the worst frame even is his current state tho, that title belongs to Valkyr(my personal opinion you can disagree, her 1 and 3 are redundant due to bullet jump/void sling and 4's immortality respectively, her 2 can be subsumed and her 4 has good stats but stance is shit and immortality is achieved by Revenant already so she literally has nothing going for her).
I didn't farm him yet but glad to know i'll be able to tackle engaging shield gate (never played shield gate in my life i go more for invisibility or health tanking)
And to go on your side i'de say their is no bad frames just frames that are easier to play
you that´s a great build. may i ask what archon shards you use?
What’s underrated is operator gameplay (indeed on sp), lmk when you need details for that one🤫
my favorite frame in the game
The fact that he is floating when standing still and NOT floating when he runs is a deal breaker for me.
But thats obviously on DE, probably prime version will be always floating. Which is kinda stupid logic.
If not Caliban, then who do you reckon is the worst frame?
What would you say the flex slot of this build is, if we don't have blue shards and need to use flow instead?
This guy gets it
I usually say all warframes are viable and good, but Valkyrie needs a rework
Another very informative vid. Good job
Video request! Considering how you are trying out underrated frames and weapons, please try the Soma Prime incarnon. It’s an underrated machine gun shotgun that I’ve been having a really fun time playing, especially with Hata Satya on it. I know, I know, burston incarnon does a better job at being soma than soma itself blah blah blah I don’t care, it’s a fun weapon.
I don't know if there is a worst frame now because I like playing with caliban and now he can be much better. I like fun frames and mostly if they spawn other allies in (like nekros).
Also really really forgotten
ive always prioritized fun. thats why i play cedo and lavos lol
Удачи в развитии канала, если ты не против, я возьму твой билд и поиграю.
Looks fun, but i am curious what you consider is the worst warframe
my bro try him with the SHEDU, not only does it fit his aestethic but it also works good for bomarding his debuff (skill 4) zones
Now that's gonna interesting.
naw hes rated perfectly ... for a complete rework
My fashion is not nearly as good as yours XD
everything but the secondary color is white, the secondary is orange, and I have the shard hex ephemera and the dex syandana
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Calaban isn't the worst. He is just uninteresting nyx is less interesting but is immune to damage and a frame like banshee could be considered worse because she has 2 mediocre abilities but her debuff is way stronger than calibans
I had the same thing with Garuda until recently, now her playstyle has kinda clicked but I can't stand playing Nyx
ur amazing i will give caliban i try thanks
I know you like apex rev, but do you like revenant in warframe, maybe do a guide on if so
"Nobody minds if there's a Trinity on their team, but she's not amazing." -
My friends ask me to run Trinity for every tough mission. She is my go to solo carry.
She is easily the only broken frame in the game right now with EV + Marked For Death. I can run level capped void cascades solo, comfortable, bc her 2 has infinite scaling damage and can nuke an entire room of any enemy type in 2 key presses. She also gives shield to defense targets with EV, which means if you find yourself in a bind on an ultra high level defense (like Duviri circuit) you can just spam EV and shoot a cold proc to keep the defense from dying. Limbo and Frost are the only frames that I know that could compete with this, and even then, overguard eximus just ignore their bubbles. Trinity turns eximus into pinatas...
Then if you run combat discipline with her armor strip and champions blessing, your teammates just don't die, get to enjoy the game, and you can kill any tough single targets. So really she's ridiculously good in normal play as well.
What's actually kind of crazy is a max strength build with Oberon's subsume. WIth 2's damage vulnerability it scales to level cap.
I think he is bad cuz like his 3 is a worse version of protea 1 as it does not regen shield when he is taking dmg like hers does. Also the sentients’s level dont scale with map level so a lv1000 enemy will shiet on your lv 200 sentient goons.
Probably because he’s still the most tedious frame to farm….
why thehell your numbers are bigger than my forehead
Aight.. caliban is not the most underrated warframe, he is honestly kinda bad, arguably at the moment the worst frame in the game. But that is just how modern warframe is, frame can be a solid 7/10 like caliban is, but when there is no frames are worse, then caliban is the worst by default. That just speaks volumes how good each and every frame is now at this day and age.. Of course that is not end all and be all, since old and forgotten frames like Banshee and Valkyr exist. They are both really solid frames as well, but at the bottom of the totem pole nowadays.
As far as the most underrated frame is, I'd argue it's Vauban. And first, I have to remind you that underrated means that something is actually way better than people in general think it is, and I strongly believe this holds more true for Vauban than any other frame in the game. I know people rate him to be better than caliban, but not by much, while in reality he is way stronger than caliban. Both frames are the victim of being somewhat unpleasant and complex to play while not offering strong instant gratification over your actions, and that turns people away, hence being kinda underrated. Just that the potential value what you can get out of vauban is kinda nuts. Zephyr is in a very similar situation, extremely strong but people just sleep on her or don't want to play her.
if you dont think its caliban who do you think it is.
I dont want to upset the comments section but theres a few I defo think are worse.
@@GuapFrame tldr i went alot more that just who I think are bad but what makes frames feel bad and I think no matter what someone will always be upset. hot take but valkyr chroma loki need reworks, caliban needs casting animations changed, limbos rift while not making him bad definitely needs to be changed for group integration. vauban could use a change or 2 . a few other frames I just talked about certain abilities and I'm probably forgetting about a frame. generally the frame I would say feels the absolute worst is chroma and if profit taker didn't exist people would also say it too.
i think valkyr is outdated essentially either being a melee frame only having invincibility as a perk to using her over others she does have eternal war as a sort of a support and damage boosting ability but the 1 and 3 are completely useless. while limbo isn't bad as a frame. he's a frame most people would not use due to the disruptive way he plays in a group. yes I've seen the limbo video and that's exactly my point. he could easily be fixed if team mates could damage rifted enemies no matter if they were or weren't in the rift and even then people would still be annoyed by the rift. i don't think he's the worst or near that for his kit but for the way he affects groups. chroma currently is just for profit taker. his 1 was bandaided for changing his element still useless. 4 is for profit taker in general its not useful. it doesn't have to be damage it just doesn't do anything besides the every once and a while cc that's not controllable and is a drain. 2 and 3 are really what make him not only for the damage but that's the only useful abilities on him. they're ok with utility built into the elements and that makes him very unique. i still think just because of how warframe is now he is also very outdated. loki and vauban are victims of overguard and enemy changes. i still frequently use vauban just killing eximus and carrying on but id be lying if I said I used more than his 4. 3 scaling is bad and its only there for damage, any gun besides the stuck can do what it does, 2 is good...except vector pad, and 1 is kinda meh when his 2 and 4 exist seems kinda like filler. Atlas 2 needs to go its just not useful. why would you hide behind a wall when he's all about punching and getting to the enemy the push isn't great either. his 3 is used for his rubble passive so that's ok. the ability could still be different. loki just got changed and its great changes but i don't think its enough for me to generally just like using decoy and switch teleporting to keep it or me alive it seems like sort of a jank bandaid fix but I'm probably an odd one out on this one. he still is a invis frame with cc so its not like he's inaros before rework bad. banshee isn't bad at all but i think soundquake is a relic of the past. i farmed one caliban and fed him so i really don't have a lot of use for him but i just thought his cast animations were so bad to me that i didn't bother getting another. i don't think that damage is everything but to compare with every other frame I think these frames in some way or another are lacking in bad abilities or usefulness is completely replaced. some might say oberon, trinity, or nyx but I believe in general their abilities have use while others that I mentioned do not. wouldn't hurt to change nyx some though. nidus is pretty much just endurance frame that will always struggle with teammates blowing up the screen and I don't think there's anything they can do about it.
Dont replace c with t
Calaban is a very underrated frame fr.
Who is the worst warframe then
I agree with most of the video but 4:55 sorry I'll have to disagree with the Trinity statement! I was a Trinity hater but now after playing with her and understanding her kit I'd say she is an A potentially S due to extreme build diversity p.e marked for death AOE nuke, Eclipse 75% dr max support energy, or low duration roar EV for LVL cap! I know this a Caliban video but I will now tolerate misinformation about Trinity! I am not trying to be a hater by any means! It just happens that this particular comparison caught my eye!
So underrated that he gets a rework lol, His kit is kinda meh but Pablo will cook with his rework for sure
Looks sweaty 😂 U doin too much for me, but to each his own
miter is a thing now ? tf is that intro + dmg xD
miter inarnon
Objectively his kit is anti the mechanic incentive of the game.... hes a bad frame can i make him get lvl cap sure is it inspite of everything that makes the frame unique yes.... hes bad needs a retooling of his kit not an augment
the most common answer is Ivara
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Caliban is great warframe. He is not the best but he is good and very fun to play.
Any time you see someone say Caliban is bad or D-F tier, you just know, they are also bad at the game. Just by looking at his kit, you can see a lot of potential specially with Helminth existing. His 1 definitely needs buff/rework, the rest of his kit is very useful in late game.
Starting a career in a Warframe will cost you a lot of time money and your physical health
Worst frame rn is valkyr
mental asylum level take
While I agree caliban is super underrated I think the worst frame is easily atlas
Man… I get where you’re coming from and I know this is an unpopular opinion but at the same time, I think any warframe that requires shield gate to be effective and can’t room clear on command isn’t worth using, I know when enemy levels get into the thousands pretty much every frame needs shieldgate and other frames struggle to room clear but… caliban just doesn’t have the clearing capabilities to warrant use. I like a warframe that’s fun but my definition of fun in warframe is being able to obliterate everything in sight with a press of a button and not having to think to much about picking targets. Big damage numbers, big kps big clears. That’s fun for me. Other people might like caliban but he ain’t for everyone
caliban is a comfort pick for me, long survival i just use him and ocucor lol. just use 4 and turn my brain off
I respect the fact that Caliban doesn't really fit for you, that's absolutely understand. But the fact is that he can strip all defences, with that you can just point and shoot. But at the end of the day it won't change your mind, just pointing out that he can still room clear, not with abilities but with weapons
@@joseantoniovargas6548 man… any warframe can room clear with weapons, hell slap a glaive prime in anyone’s hands and even an unmodded frame can body level cap, my point is that a warframe shouldn’t need weapons, a strong frame should be able to make do with its abilities or with a little help from the helminth, weapons are just additive in my eyes, if you want to make a build focussed around weapons and increasing their usability by all means you’re free to do just that. But me? I just wanna see big numbers and kill a shit load of enemies really quick without having to think, (not like Octavia because as brain dead as she is it’s still kinda boring) like xaku or revenant, even Dante. You don’t need to think you just cast abilities and let loose.
@@bengieDMZ I understand a difference in preference, but in my opinion not all frames should be able to room clear with abilities alone
He is bad imo. And using a helminth ability from another frame doesn't help him himself
I think loki is def worse than caliban
I think Atlas is the worst frame in the game now. He literally does nothing now lol.
still better than chroma
go wrathful advance you donut
@xavier-uz5nq I'm sure that's why I'm seeing so many Atlas players around cause hes so good......
@nqxo9829 why do that when you could do the same with Excal, Khorra, Barruk, and Wukong?
@@xDman383it’s fun
You don't sound like you are having fun. And I do not see how him being an ok-ish Warframe against the Murmur means that he is not the worst of the bunch.
Caliban is actually a decently easy Warframe to get
He's just tedious
Guapee playing warframe?? Completely surprised that YT recommended this to me
You are damned refreshing, being someone prioritizing viability and fun. You made Caliban an underrated masterpiece. Definitely subbing.
Okey...the community needs a static bar of "yea preatty good" cos i know a fair few people who use just steel path enemies as the bar for good frames. While the endurance runers use level cap viability while others use build veriety around abilites as the minimum for the good frame bar
I always like playing underrated Warframe and see what i can come up.
Man you're killing it. I loved your limbo video. Been loving the playstyle keep it up
I dont think caliban is underrated, his kit is simply messy and that is not compelling when playing.
I agree with you caliban can actually be very devastating no where near the worst frame
I never got the flame he always seems to get. Not my go to by any means, but there are way less intersting frames out there.
Caliban isnt the worst frame in the game. That spot belongs to nyx lol
I run my Caliban with the Grimoire to keep my energy up and the Basmu for damage. No melee weapon. Swapped out his 1 for Vauban’s Squad to compliment The Crew™️. Modded him with high efficiency, plus augur mods and Brief Respite to regen shields through casting on top of lethal progeny. Lots of spam casting, lots of shields, plus his adaptation passive. It’s super fun to run around with all these summons, casting spells from a book like a Sentient wizard.
That sounds hilarious, I might do that once they give him out for free (should be pretty soon) !
I think part of the reason Caliban is fun to play is because he's not a broken OP mess like other frames, and you have to be engaged and use all of his kit to take advantage of the guy.
I'm not gonna get another caliban however, fuck that haha, farming his mats was a pain the ass, I'll wait for the day he gets a prime
Also, subbed, your warframe vids are super cool, showcasing less used frames. I tried your limbo build and it was super fun.
Everyone gets a free caliban when his rework drops as far as i know. Somewhere in between lotus eaters and 1999
@@tabulaaaa Thanks for the heads up! That's awesome.
The problem with Caliban is not if it's fun or not... When your first ability is a literal AOE Dash and your second Ability is again AOE CC third ability is basically Summon minions.. it leaves much to be desired when facing a Single Target Enemy.. And his 1 does no damage vs tanky eximus units without Sentient Wrath and Eximus are completely unaffected by CC So this leaves you with 3 useless abilities to focus your damage output and your final Ability focuses on an enemy properly but it is Once Again AOE makes this Warframe feel completely out of your Control when it comes to Landing your Abilities! There is Nothing to Land when everything is AOE it just splashes everyone with small numbers gives the impression you don't deal damage which is completely the case because DMG is too spread out and Minion AI is stupid you have 0 control over them there is "no real wombo combo" to be had here the Lifted mechanic makes it really awkward to shoot enemies... Basically it has only Cons going for it...
This is the same reason I play Garuda. So many inputs, so much fun to be engaged
Tried Caliban in Diviri & he's more fun than what most players take for granted, I'll pay for his prime access in 2025 & won't regret it 🗿
Strength and duration
No way is caliban the worst. Loki is
Wtf bro😂😂😂
Most people in pubs tend to pick Revenant for Index, while I prefer Caliban.