Aki , I am using this brake setup in my circuit car , for the last 5-6 years . We do up to 30 laps a race meeting. And I have had zero issues with it. I use good rotors , high temperature brake fluid and race pads .
really good "budget" brake set up, used this similar setup on 3 of my civics with ebc pads. always build from ground up, have the chassis be able to handle the power thrown at it! keep up the golden content!
Same as the prelude caliper as well. If your in the junkyard and see them. Just make sure it says 23t on the bracket. 2 piston calipers are 91-96 nsx or 94-95 legend gs caliper on the 23t bracket. You will need to grind the bracket some and run itr pads.
i've got the same setup, mini cooper 280 discs, pbs race pads and integra calipers with braided brake lines, also runing a prelude 1" master, did a few track days, never any brake fade, did get the brakes smelling a bit but they never lost any braking performance, instant grab, the whole setup was around 500 to 600 bucks, bare in mind i did get the calipers restored and powdercoated
Aki, love your videos. Watching your videos took all the fear out of doing a manual conversion and motor swap on my prelude. Would have loved to k swap it but but I cannot weld. So I did a h23a1 auto to jdm h22a conversion in my garage with just a little help from my daughter. Keep up the great videos and thanks for what you do.
Love what you do! Keep that content Comming. The idea of breaking things down to shorter vids is a good sell. I would be more apt to watch a 20 minute section vs. An hour long vlog. Brother You're an asset to the community.
Oh no. Jim is commenting again. Anyhow back in my CCS Florida racing days (Superbike road racing) we purposely installed our Dunlop GP207 front tires on backwards because breaking stability was way better. More then half the feild did this. If your directonal front tires do happen to be on backwards it DOES NOT MATTER! They wont fail or come apart either way. No worries Aki.....
Great setup for the money, I have the Type R/ Mini Cooper setup in my CRX but with 90/91 Civic EX sedan front spindles, 1st gen CRV 97/01 front spindles and calipers are the same part number for the Acura Type R, Honda Odyssey have the same calipers but with different brackets and other cars have this calipers too it’s just the brackets that are different, there’s 2 different brackets one it’s 23T and the other is 25T and the difference between the two it’s rotors thickness 23T/23mm rotors and 25T/25mm rotors. There’s other combinations that can be used with this type of spindles but some need modifications or custom brackets but can’t go wrong with OEM setup, parts are easily accessible
I’m using the setup for years and many lapping/time attack days. you can only take the 23t bracket and use your red caliper. You really need to upgrade those brake pads, you will overheat them in a few lap and they wont last more than a day. Hawk dtc60 are perfect and cheap. They will last all season easy. ( in the rear you need to run oem or bot agressive pads because you will lock the wheel(i’m using hawk hp+) ) It’s better to use blank rotor because slotted or drill rotor cracks all the time. with the agressive brake pads it’s hard on them. I usualy change my rotor 2 time before i change my pad.
dust shields are mainly more for splash shields. most people on road courses dont use them cuz it helps with cooling the rotor better. running some ducting to air the rotors from behind etc. Also with the bigger rotors comes bigger Master cylinder. a nice 1" bore MC will due those big brakes wonders. im sure yall already know that.
Great vlog ! I love the fact that you don't hide the mistake and even joke about it. It's a great brake setup. A friend has a similar one on his K20 EG coupe. His car has full interior (weights 2420 lbs give or take) and it works great on mountains roads and racetracks as well. In your case maybe the pads can mess up if they not dissipate enough heat. If it's the case and you have fading on track and you find the pads have glazed, you will know they are not good enough and you will need some better ones. The pads quality is very important. It's what give you the bite, brake feel and most of the endurance. With a good pads / discs combo and good brake fluid your setup can last long. Air vents can help a lot too. Like Trappy saids on track you will drive aggressively. To have less risks of overheat the brakes it's better to be hard on them and brake for a shorter period of time (threshold braking) rather than brake with less brake pressure for a longer period of time. Threshold braking is the fastest way to brake and it help to have better grip on the front axle in corner entry ass well. I hope it will help 🙂.
What a great explanation and hands on (pause) vlog. Definitely is gonna help out a few people going down the same path. Keep it up brothers #manolo is coming along perfectly
wats good aki from lancaster pa. love ur video . cant wait to see that ek done u guys doing amazin job i have my self a 2010 tsx and ae86 and ur videos help me alot love ur builds ...keep gunin💪
That’s a good idea trap, for your vlogs, about the before and after breaking test!! It’s different and I haven’t seen a RUclipsr doing a quick test like that.
Love to see a circuit build 💪🏿 Depending on how serious you are, floating rotors would be really nice upgrade. Better heat dissipation and lower rotating mass
Aki thank you for putting all the videos into playlist. I’ve watch lefty,Kobe and I’m now on Manolo. Same chasis I have and everything’s got me hype to be able to finally do my build.
Hello from Greece guys! The type R calipers are made for 282mm not for 280, but even with that in mind, you can use them with 280mm pads, but in your case the gap was way too much,. I think that this is not a Type R. Check if the Type R caliper has 14mm bolts to make sure that it's original type R. If the bolts are 12mm they are not.
Guys back in the day were running mini cooper s rotors with itr calipers. Afco makes some pretty cheap 4 piston calipers but you have to make custom brackets, they are pretty light too.
5:44 i used to have a 98 Accord, freaking loved that car it was so good. Not the exciteable kind of VTEC but it was still a good car. My coworker used to tell me to just get Accord v6 knuckles for the back of mine so i could have four rotors and stuff but i just kept it drums and had fun the way the car was. And slapped the good ol' ebay H.I.D. 10k's and some Kenwood 6x9's. It was a good car
1 inch brake master cylinder+brake booster from a ~2000 prelude is a direct bolt on. i had this exact set up and ep3 rear disc with stock cx prop valv and it worked perfect never locked the rears and had great pedal feel with lots of modulation and could lock up my 120 treadwear tires easily
I rather run booster delete as you have much better brake modulation. If you are going to run booster less, you want 7/8" MC as that's the correct size for the brake caliper pistons size.
Re-watching the earlier manolo vids to get even more hyped for the build. Also just got my winter EJ8 running right and hate the soft brake pedal feel I have now. If I’m gonna replace something anyway, I might as well make it better. It’s just the way to go.
Y'all are sure blessed to have the knowledge you have, thank you for sharing it 🔫. Only problem is karcept hub going to run 300+ or did I miss something 🤔
Good shit 💪💪 on my 10th gen civic si I'm running nissan rogue rotors and genesis brembos. Cost me only 400. Everything bolted right up including the brake lines. No modifications whatsoever. 🔫🔫
Damn, thank you so much for this great vlog. I am definitely going to have to put 2 sets together for my daughters and my DB's. Love the detailed information. 🔥🔥🔥🔫🌎
Trap with the bazooka stance scene from desperado's had me cracking me up in my living room!🤣 He nailed it! Thank you guys for the awesome content & I cant wait to see this hatch in action. KEEP GUNNIN!!!
AKI you're a beast brother!!! much much love for putting us on. I read about this combo on hondatech but like you said it wasn't as clear as you made it!! It a gunners world!!!
Thank you Sirs for the info very informative I do have a 4dr 95 ex and looking to do brake up grade, Question what about the rear just leave alone, what I mean is just change the calipers and rotors in rear? Thanks again keep Gunnin!!
I really appreciate you doing these videos man. I’ve been on the ep3/rsx platform for years so the eg/ek/dc chassis is kind of foreign to me. I just picked up a 95 sedan, Videos like these help me out!!!
I watch every episode like its a t.v. show on the speed networks. But in all honesty you guys help motivate me everyday to recover from my injuries to get back to wrenching. Big ☝ to you guys from OKC. Much love bro. Keep it 🔫
Doing a ek Circuit build rite now i track race my rsx type s but thats my daily so thats why the ek is getting built .ebc yellow stuff pads after hot lapping had no brake fade .... Hope we can meet at the track 1 day been doing track and sprint racing a back mounting for 3 years so will be fun keep gunning brother
No disrespect to you guys, but why people gotta hit the thumbs down, I mean haters hate, but name one thing these guys do that’s worth a thumbs down? Wast being disrespectful when I ask to race , U guys showed me a way, I’m trying to see if I learned enough yet, keep gunnin yall
What would be a good thing to show with the difference in stockish brakes and a big brake setup do a 60-0 brake with a cold(off the trailer) braking , then do a 60-0 after 2-3-4 laps ect Then do the same with the big brake kit, yeah its 2 extra tests but what it will show is how much better the big brake kits do with heat and multiple laps
If this is a race car, there is absolutely no need for dust shield as it will trap heat in the rotor area and that is a very bad thing for the brakes. Also, it depends on pads you use as I use Hawk DTC-60 or DTC-70 pads and I do endurance racing which the races are from either 8 hours, 12 hours and 24 hours long, as it should last at least the 8 hour race because the car is very light. My EG Civic with K24a swap with full SCCA/NASA legal cage, 15 gallon fuel cell and 3/4 tank of gas weight in at 2125 lbs with no driver.
No cap this vlog it's super helpful very detailed and well explain.for the heroes the said the type r and crv was the same I'm glad you guys clearlyfy the error.great job aki trap.love and loyalty n.f.l fam love and loyalty 🔫🙏🔥
Aki , I am using this brake setup in my circuit car , for the last 5-6 years . We do up to 30 laps a race meeting. And I have had zero issues with it. I use good rotors , high temperature brake fluid and race pads .
What kind of wheel bearing ?
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When you do this set up do you have to use a 40/40 valve or different master and booster?
@@gb361TX i saw in another video that you do have too
really good "budget" brake set up, used this similar setup on 3 of my civics with ebc pads. always build from ground up, have the chassis be able to handle the power thrown at it! keep up the golden content!
Same as the prelude caliper as well. If your in the junkyard and see them. Just make sure it says 23t on the bracket. 2 piston calipers are 91-96 nsx or 94-95 legend gs caliper on the 23t bracket. You will need to grind the bracket some and run itr pads.
i've got the same setup, mini cooper 280 discs, pbs race pads and integra calipers with braided brake lines, also runing a prelude 1" master, did a few track days, never any brake fade, did get the brakes smelling a bit but they never lost any braking performance, instant grab, the whole setup was around 500 to 600 bucks, bare in mind i did get the calipers restored and powdercoated
Aki, love your videos. Watching your videos took all the fear out of doing a manual conversion and motor swap on my prelude. Would have loved to k swap it but but I cannot weld. So I did a h23a1 auto to jdm h22a conversion in my garage with just a little help from my daughter. Keep up the great videos and thanks for what you do.
Love what you do! Keep that content Comming.
The idea of breaking things down to shorter vids is a good sell. I would be more apt to watch a 20 minute section vs. An hour long vlog.
Brother You're an asset to the community.
You can use genesis brembos with 350z rotors for 8th gens , theres different tricks u can do
how so ? is it any better than the TL BBK my turbo 8th gen has good stop power but we all want a faster safer stop
Glad someone else agrees with the 1320 spacers... they are a good bit of kit!
Oh no. Jim is commenting again. Anyhow back in my CCS Florida racing days (Superbike road racing) we purposely installed our Dunlop GP207 front tires on backwards because breaking stability was way better. More then half the feild did this. If your directonal front tires do happen to be on backwards it DOES NOT MATTER! They wont fail or come apart either way. No worries Aki.....
Great setup for the money, I have the Type R/ Mini Cooper setup in my CRX but with 90/91 Civic EX sedan front spindles, 1st gen CRV 97/01 front spindles and calipers are the same part number for the Acura Type R, Honda Odyssey have the same calipers but with different brackets and other cars have this calipers too it’s just the brackets that are different, there’s 2 different brackets one it’s 23T and the other is 25T and the difference between the two it’s rotors thickness 23T/23mm rotors and 25T/25mm rotors. There’s other combinations that can be used with this type of spindles but some need modifications or custom brackets but can’t go wrong with OEM setup, parts are easily accessible
I have a Ef dx hatch. Could I use a Ef Si spindle or do I have to use a sedan Ex spindle?
I’m using the setup for years and many lapping/time attack days.
you can only take the 23t bracket and use your red caliper.
You really need to upgrade those brake pads, you will overheat them in a few lap and they wont last more than a day. Hawk dtc60 are perfect and cheap. They will last all season easy. ( in the rear you need to run oem or bot agressive pads because you will lock the wheel(i’m using hawk hp+) )
It’s better to use blank rotor because slotted or drill rotor cracks all the time. with the agressive brake pads it’s hard on them. I usualy change my rotor 2 time before i change my pad.
New to the channel. Y’all doing great on content. Pause. Would agree on shorter videos my lunch break ain’t that long lol
You guys are one of the best honda builders aroun .!!!
dust shields are mainly more for splash shields. most people on road courses dont use them cuz it helps with cooling the rotor better. running some ducting to air the rotors from behind etc. Also with the bigger rotors comes bigger Master cylinder. a nice 1" bore MC will due those big brakes wonders. im sure yall already know that.
97-01 crv or ITR front calipers, 04-10 tsx or 99-03 TL brake pads, 07-11 280mm Cooper base front rotors. ✔️
Great vlog ! I love the fact that you don't hide the mistake and even joke about it.
It's a great brake setup. A friend has a similar one on his K20 EG coupe. His car has full interior (weights 2420 lbs give or take) and it works great on mountains roads and racetracks as well.
In your case maybe the pads can mess up if they not dissipate enough heat. If it's the case and you have fading on track and you find the pads have glazed, you will know they are not good enough and you will need some better ones. The pads quality is very important. It's what give you the bite, brake feel and most of the endurance. With a good pads / discs combo and good brake fluid your setup can last long. Air vents can help a lot too. Like Trappy saids on track you will drive aggressively. To have less risks of overheat the brakes it's better to be hard on them and brake for a shorter period of time (threshold braking) rather than brake with less brake pressure for a longer period of time. Threshold braking is the fastest way to brake and it help to have better grip on the front axle in corner entry ass well.
I hope it will help 🙂.
What a great explanation and hands on (pause) vlog. Definitely is gonna help out a few people going down the same path. Keep it up brothers #manolo is coming along perfectly
You guys are comedy and I love the content
I plan on using the knowledge and skills you taught me and us
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Very nice. Been running this setup for almost 8 years. Got that 1320 spacer as well.
wats good aki from lancaster pa. love ur video . cant wait to see that ek done u guys doing amazin job i have my self a 2010 tsx and ae86 and ur videos help me alot love ur builds ...keep gunin💪
Won’t lie love the info and everything ya doing.
most underrated channel!!! Keep gunnin
I did this exact upgrade on my turbo sedan, this is by far the easiest and most affordable brake upgrade with some steel braided lines
Newb question. Can you run 15" wheels with these? Like LS meshy's?
No cap I love 1320performance parts. I got damn near most of their shit for my H2B civic.
Keep gunnin (y) most humble dudes on RUclips doing real shit ! Keep up good work , loving the videos
That’s a good idea trap, for your vlogs, about the before and after breaking test!! It’s different and I haven’t seen a RUclipsr doing a quick test like that.
Love to see a circuit build 💪🏿 Depending on how serious you are, floating rotors would be really nice upgrade. Better heat dissipation and lower rotating mass
That brake upgrade is crazy💯🔥, like a functional masterpiece that fits together like legos👌🔫🌎❤
Aki thank you for putting all the videos into playlist. I’ve watch lefty,Kobe and I’m now on Manolo. Same chasis I have and everything’s got me hype to be able to finally do my build.
27:18 Great job Aki now I can't use this clip. 🤣🤣 KEEP GUNNIN..
Hello from Greece guys! The type R calipers are made for 282mm not for 280, but even with that in mind, you can use them with 280mm pads, but in your case the gap was way too much,. I think that this is not a Type R. Check if the Type R caliper has 14mm bolts to make sure that it's original type R. If the bolts are 12mm they are not.
Keep working and don’t pay attention to no haters!
Keep pushing forward
So if I have the stock ex spindles etc on my ek hatch do I need to change the bearing? What was the thought behind the extended studs?
I love what u guys have been doing with your channel. Always getting great content from u guys💪🏾💪🏾
Guys back in the day were running mini cooper s rotors with itr calipers. Afco makes some pretty cheap 4 piston calipers but you have to make custom brackets, they are pretty light too.
5:44 i used to have a 98 Accord, freaking loved that car it was so good. Not the exciteable kind of VTEC but it was still a good car. My coworker used to tell me to just get Accord v6 knuckles for the back of mine so i could have four rotors and stuff but i just kept it drums and had fun the way the car was. And slapped the good ol' ebay H.I.D. 10k's and some Kenwood 6x9's. It was a good car
Good job. I've been using this setup back in 2010. It works flawless on many track days.
1 inch brake master cylinder+brake booster from a ~2000 prelude is a direct bolt on. i had this exact set up and ep3 rear disc with stock cx prop valv and it worked perfect never locked the rears and had great pedal feel with lots of modulation and could lock up my 120 treadwear tires easily
I rather run booster delete as you have much better brake modulation. If you are going to run booster less, you want 7/8" MC as that's the correct size for the brake caliper pistons size.
Keep the work up fam 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
I must have missed it, but can you still run a 15" wheel with this brake setup?
Yes. Some. Rpf1 won't clear. Slipstream required a 5mm spacer. Most OEM wheels clear fine too
Lol trappy at the end y’all dem boys that was funny 🤣🤣🤣
Re-watching the earlier manolo vids to get even more hyped for the build. Also just got my winter EJ8 running right and hate the soft brake pedal feel I have now. If I’m gonna replace something anyway, I might as well make it better. It’s just the way to go.
Is there a complimentary setup for the rear to match this setup?
I ran that setup on my DA and it was no a joke. You have to use the 40/40 prop valve and a 93 Integra master and your Golden!!!
Y'all are sure blessed to have the knowledge you have, thank you for sharing it 🔫. Only problem is karcept hub going to run 300+ or did I miss something 🤔
Good shit 💪💪 on my 10th gen civic si I'm running nissan rogue rotors and genesis brembos. Cost me only 400. Everything bolted right up including the brake lines. No modifications whatsoever. 🔫🔫
Finally Yonkers boiz!! YO all day!! On park ave with the 9th gen si. Gotta bring it to you guys for work.
Yoooo I’m in tears with trapp with the rocket 🚀 stance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Will a 15 inch wheel clear this brake setup?
Damn, thank you so much for this great vlog. I am definitely going to have to put 2 sets together for my daughters and my DB's. Love the detailed information. 🔥🔥🔥🔫🌎
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I LOVE WATCHING WHAT YOU DO, FANTASTIC CONTENT !!!
Can u use 96-00 ex or si spindles or do u have to use 92-95 ex/si or dc integra ones???
Keep them videos coming. Cali love✌
Trap with the bazooka stance scene from desperado's had me cracking me up in my living room!🤣 He nailed it! Thank you guys for the awesome content & I cant wait to see this hatch in action. KEEP GUNNIN!!!
“Don’t be that much of a budget guy” hilarious....dope vid 🔫🔫🔫
Dam trappy sleeping on hateful eight ...... that must saw trappy .. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 every body
Love the channel. Down here in Stuart Florida. I have a 94 Si hatch and need to start building.
AKI you're a beast brother!!! much much love for putting us on. I read about this combo on hondatech but like you said it wasn't as clear as you made it!! It a gunners world!!!
Doin the damn thing keep gunnin
OEM+ upgrades are the most satisfying.
Yow 14:35 had me cracking up trap am like he did not just say that🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Good morning gunners !
👋👋 Front Disks ATE 24.0125-0161.1 part number direct bolt on without any spacers 282mm. I drive those on my race EK K20
Mini cooper S rotor are slightly bigger than base cooper rotors. The itr calipers need the S rotors. I believe they are 294mm over 280 ish.
No, the 294mm will not work with ITR caliper.
Thank you Sirs for the info very informative I do have a 4dr 95 ex and looking to do brake up grade, Question what about the rear just leave alone, what I mean is just change the calipers and rotors in rear? Thanks again keep Gunnin!!
our channel needed a brake upgrade video! you did a great job on this also! #KeepGunnin
I’m using 324mm Nissan Maxima rotors on my TSX with Acura RL 4 piston calipers 🔥
I really appreciate you doing these videos man. I’ve been on the ep3/rsx platform for years so the eg/ek/dc chassis is kind of foreign to me. I just picked up a 95 sedan, Videos like these help me out!!!
When you guys do the big brake kit, what brake booster and master cylinder are you guys using?
If you haven't already figured out yet. The type r calipers clear 15s the crv calipers grind the inside of the wheel. I found out the hard way. Lol
Man your vlogs are fucken A1 and motivates me to follow my dream 🤙🏽💯🏎
Gotta love when Aki always point at the toilet and say yes it does work 😂😂🙏🔫🔫
I run 225 rt660's all around on 15x7.5 +35 dekagrams. No rubbing issues, slight rubbing at full lock in the front.
Love the vids, Keep them Gunnin
I watch every episode like its a t.v. show on the speed networks. But in all honesty you guys help motivate me everyday to recover from my injuries to get back to wrenching. Big ☝ to you guys from OKC. Much love bro. Keep it 🔫
Commentary was A1 😂 good work boys!
Lets go!!! These vlogs have me fucking stoked!!
Great video, thanks for your reach, gems and doing the hands on trial and tribulation.
fucking love how detailed yall are for real
Doing a ek Circuit build rite now i track race my rsx type s but thats my daily so thats why the ek is getting built .ebc yellow stuff pads after hot lapping had no brake fade .... Hope we can meet at the track 1 day been doing track and sprint racing a back mounting for 3 years so will be fun keep gunning brother
I've got a set of integra spindles sitting in the corner waiting to go on my awd ek. I'm also doing the budget bbk.
No disrespect to you guys, but why people gotta hit the thumbs down, I mean haters hate, but name one thing these guys do that’s worth a thumbs down?
Wast being disrespectful when I ask to race ,
U guys showed me a way, I’m trying to see if I learned enough yet, keep gunnin yall
Ki and trap always killin it caring about all us gunners
What would be a good thing to show with the difference in stockish brakes and a big brake setup
do a 60-0 brake with a cold(off the trailer) braking , then do a 60-0 after 2-3-4 laps ect
Then do the same with the big brake kit, yeah its 2 extra tests but what it will show is how much better the big brake kits do with heat and multiple laps
If this is a race car, there is absolutely no need for dust shield as it will trap heat in the rotor area and that is a very bad thing for the brakes. Also, it depends on pads you use as I use Hawk DTC-60 or DTC-70 pads and I do endurance racing which the races are from either 8 hours, 12 hours and 24 hours long, as it should last at least the 8 hour race because the car is very light. My EG Civic with K24a swap with full SCCA/NASA legal cage, 15 gallon fuel cell and 3/4 tank of gas weight in at 2125 lbs with no driver.
When you complete the install, did you have any issues with the brake pedal being spongy?
Time stamp for budget brake part list 7:32
Blown away by the detail for us viewers. Liked and subscribed
Thank 4 the videos learning alot 🙏🏼
No cap this vlog it's super helpful very detailed and well explain.for the heroes the said the type r and crv was the same I'm glad you guys clearlyfy the error.great job aki trap.love and loyalty n.f.l fam love and loyalty 🔫🙏🔥
Need to do this ASAP 🔥 thanks for the gems still
They going start calling aki the RUclips version of hondatech forum
Hell Yeah Brother
You guys are badass and funny af 😂😂 thanks bro for the information you saved us hella money i cant wait to do this swap on my eg coupe
Shot out to the hero’s
Big S/O
Love these videos . The rawness
Thank you for the knowledge Aki🔥🔫