Are Big Brakes Worth It?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
  • To go fast you've gotta be able to brake fast.
    Zach gives you the low down on what matters when picking out a new set of brakes.
    Check out the brakes we used from Flyin' Miata here: rb.gy/wvqfaw
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  • @AaronSkone
    @AaronSkone 3 года назад +2286

    *Miata is popping fuses on the track and overheating*
    Zach: Let’s talk about brakes!

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 3 года назад +48

      He probably only knows how to fix stuff not how to diagnose problems.

    • @dimitrijekrstic7567
      @dimitrijekrstic7567 3 года назад +71

      @@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx I mean they were testing to see what time they could achieve without a radiator swap, so yeah. Might just be a fan that's pulling a lot of current.

    • @eduardocachuelajr.1859
      @eduardocachuelajr.1859 3 года назад +2

      True hahaha

    • @GTmotions
      @GTmotions 3 года назад +5

      @@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx he did it it another video 😑😑

    • @jeremymurray8070
      @jeremymurray8070 2 года назад +4

      Those brakes are orange though

  • @ryanm2700
    @ryanm2700 3 года назад +768

    “If it’s not done twice it’s not done right!” That is a wonderful motto 😂🤣

    • @devonlambert9131
      @devonlambert9131 3 года назад +21

      "do it right once so you don't have to do it twice" is one I hear a LOT tho lol

    • @jobanski
      @jobanski 3 года назад +4

      Devon Lambert I have always hated the, “do it right the first time”, line.

    • @devonlambert9131
      @devonlambert9131 3 года назад +4

      True, always double check your work and redo what you got to

    • @the_heirophant7046
      @the_heirophant7046 3 года назад +2

      We do it Nice, cuz we do it Twice. 🙂👍

    • @gyorgischwartz
      @gyorgischwartz 3 года назад +1

      Do it right the first time.
      Think twice, act once.

  • @theanalogkid_4588
    @theanalogkid_4588 3 года назад +641

    "if it's not done twice it's not done right". My dad always says "there's two ways to do something, the right way and again"

    • @92ryanyoung
      @92ryanyoung 3 года назад +18

      I go by the "do it twice to make it nice" motto

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 3 года назад +7

      "there are 2 ways to do things, the right way and MY WAY, they're both the same..." (John Turturro voice)

    • @mckdink
      @mckdink 3 года назад

      Wise man

    • @dev_jon4596
      @dev_jon4596 2 года назад

      @@phillyphil1513 to,

    • @BaBlisstic
      @BaBlisstic 2 года назад +1

      @@92ryanyoung In sheet metal we say it nearly the same. "We do it nice 'cause we do it twice."

  • @ianthomas8850
    @ianthomas8850 3 года назад +530

    Am i the only one who noticed the “your mom” part when they were talking about weight

  • @whateverprecisely
    @whateverprecisely 3 года назад +1348

    "If it's not done twice, it's not done right"
    World War 1:
    yes

    • @VBshredder
      @VBshredder 3 года назад +30

      Nice, this is pretty much the story of me working on my cars. 1. Do the job 2. Test Drive 3. Figure out what that new noise is 4. Fix the noise.

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 3 года назад +1

      Oh grawd

    • @Ingris1441
      @Ingris1441 3 года назад +3

      @@VBshredder I I just installed new ignition coils and now theres a rattle and I'm like.....what the fuck

    • @M1lan2124
      @M1lan2124 3 года назад +1

      @@Ingris1441 it could just be a bolt that you forgot to tighten

    • @VBshredder
      @VBshredder 3 года назад

      @@Ingris1441 did you have to take off anything to get to 'em? on subarus that is often the case due to the god forsaken (when dealing with ignition) boxer design. i'd check everything you touched. I feel your pain. The satisfaction will be greater when you find it though!

  • @stratis722
    @stratis722 3 года назад +670

    **talks about overheating brakes**
    "this is what it all boils down to"
    *_haha nice_*

    • @stratis722
      @stratis722 3 года назад +2

      thanks for the heart donut ;)

    • @Calv_
      @Calv_ 3 года назад

      The smug smile as it was said made it perfect lol

    • @stratis722
      @stratis722 3 года назад

      @@Calv_ lol

  • @lockedoutofaccount371
    @lockedoutofaccount371 3 года назад +145

    Donut is actually one of those professionals that really makes solid videos

    • @VaS2000dude
      @VaS2000dude Год назад +4

      Except for the ridiculously inaccurate Mid Night Club video that was 90% misinformation.

  • @STREET_GP1
    @STREET_GP1 3 года назад +112

    Love how they put "your mom" to see if you were really reading the description of unsprung weight at 8:01

    • @edwincastillo4017
      @edwincastillo4017 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, I was scrolling thru the comments to see if anyone else noticed

    • @Killerjack007
      @Killerjack007 2 года назад +3

      Yep glad i read that, almost made that mistake . Remember kids you mom = unsprung weight

  • @anggoroanindhito8987
    @anggoroanindhito8987 3 года назад +1058

    "Does more expensive mean more better?"
    Wait, wrong show...

    • @carrief47
      @carrief47 3 года назад +3

      LOL😂

    • @TheRealMikeWilly
      @TheRealMikeWilly 3 года назад +3

      Anggoro Anindhito wrong show, right channel. Lowcar all day! Just got my Lowcar pin and key tag this week. The only "Highcar" considered is a budget lifted Jeep 😂

    • @dorthynorton6699
      @dorthynorton6699 3 года назад +6

      Who agrees that money pit is the best show?? 😄😄

    • @TheRealMikeWilly
      @TheRealMikeWilly 3 года назад +2

      @@dorthynorton6699 Much love for Zach, don't get me wrong. I'm also the proud owner of a 1991 B-series Mazda Protégé AWD imported from Japan kuz America wasn't cool enough to get AWD and I'm currently in the process of rebuilding the motor so I can shove a big ol spinny boi under the hood. But HiLow and D-List tickle my fancy just a little bit more than money pit. My money pits are for going fast off road or a snails pace over some obstacles. If I drive something fast on the streets I get speeding tickets with careless/wreckless infractions tacked on and it's just all bad news.

    • @jaxplaz1081
      @jaxplaz1081 3 года назад

      Low car!

  • @milesforrest4532
    @milesforrest4532 3 года назад +3583

    He's doing such a good Jobe on this car hehe

    • @lukamoric9300
      @lukamoric9300 3 года назад +107

      I hate you and i love you

    • @colhapablap
      @colhapablap 3 года назад +74

      -autocorrect strikes again-
      i've now been made aware of the man's last name.

    • @smidly7192
      @smidly7192 3 года назад +13

      THATS HIS NAME!!!!!!!!!11!1!1!!1!!!

    • @jillradloff5533
      @jillradloff5533 3 года назад +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @willtate6185
      @willtate6185 3 года назад +3

      You know what? No

  • @washcloth3000
    @washcloth3000 3 года назад +43

    I just want to say, I really appreciate how thorough Zach Jobe is when he works on cars

  • @jordan_berlinger_101
    @jordan_berlinger_101 3 года назад +116

    Imagine if it hits 10 million, youtube would make a custom diamond play button for the cars.

    • @cherrypopper7518
      @cherrypopper7518 3 года назад +20

      Idk seems like RUclips dgaf

    • @TeamSesh1999
      @TeamSesh1999 3 года назад +1

      that’s an idea right there

    • @marcanthony9659
      @marcanthony9659 3 года назад +1

      Have the done anything similar for the other yt channels that have passed 10 million subscribers?

  • @Lehpurdzzz
    @Lehpurdzzz 3 года назад +855

    To add, upgrading each part of the brake system does the following:
    -Stiffer caliper gives pedal firmness and evenness of pad wear from track use (see pad taper).
    -Larger caliper allows it to be stiffer for cheaper, and allows larger pads to be run for endurance races. Also helps against boiling fluid but rotor should come first. Downside is larger caliper requires a larger wheel to fit - and larger diameter wheels are slower than smaller wheels.
    -More rotor mass reduces average temperatures around the track to keep pads cooler and within their operating temp range
    -Larger rotor diameter gives you more braking torque, useful for ability to threshold brake with sticky tire at high speed
    -Curved rotor vanes cool better than straight vanes due to their fundamental air pumping design
    -Harder/treated rotors last longer
    -More aggressive pad gives you more bite and greater temperature window. Downside is more aggressive pads make more noise and dust, need higher temperatures to work their best, and wear rotors much faster if you don’t have a transfer-layer type pad.
    -Fluid is pretty easy, but often misunderstood. With the car off, pump the brakes until it's as hard as can be. Then try pushing again and see how squishy it is. If it's really squishy then flush the brakes and try again. You're not going to make a stock car rock hard, so just calibrate yourself to how squishy the system is after a flush and remember that next time you think you boiled fluid. Way too often people think they boiled fluid when they actually just faded or melted a % of their pads. At a track day my brake pedal always feels like trash when I go out for lunch. That's just how the pads get after intense heat cycles - doesn't mean the fluid boiled. As you warm them back up after an intense session, they'll feel better. It's harder to boil fluid than you think. Regardless, just flush with dot 4, RBF600 or SRF if you're a baller and don't worry about it. If you're using a super aggressive track pad and STILL boil racing fluid - you absolutely need a big brake it.
    For street use, the biggest difference is the pad by far. None of the other parts come close to just swapping on a set of transfer-layer ceramic pads like those from carbotech or g-loc, and bedding them in correctly: by doing repeated stops until you notice significant reduction in braking power. If you stop before that, they are not bedded in properly.
    For a quiet pad you can use at all temperatures, get a G-loc GS-1 or a Carbotech 1521. These offer better bite than OEM pads and are super easy on rotors.
    For MUCH better braking performance at the cost of dust and some noise, get a G-loc R8. Not for winter use. Easy on rotors, dust is non-corrosive and torque is easy to modulate. Just doing the fronts is fine. If you track your car do both front and rear in a more aggressive compound like the R12. For front heavy cars step down for the rear. So that's R12 front and R10 rear, etc. DM me if you plan on going to the track and i'll give you better info for your specific needs. Another perfectly viable pad is Ferodo DS2500 for street/very light track use or Ferodo DS1.11 for heavy track work. The key here is research.
    For track use, the most important part aside from pad is the rotor. When brakes overheat, we’re talking about the pad operating over its intended operating temp range and decreasing its bite, or the fluid boiling. Both issues are solved with a larger rotor. Rotors with double the thermal mass cut temperatures in half for a given braking event. Very important.
    The larger diameter combined with curved vanes promotes a huge amount of air being pumped through the rotor to cool them back down before the next corner.
    If you just drive on the street, get a better pad. If your braking power fades throughout a track session or heavy canyon rip, also get a larger rotor. If your pads are wearing way more on the leading edge after track days, get a stiffer caliper with more pistons.
    Stainless brake lines only really make the pedal slightly stiffer and slightly easier to modulate, but don’t make your brakes work any better. A proper caliper and progressive track pad makes a much, much bigger modulation difference.
    And the biggest con of all is ‘performance rotors’. If they’re the same thickness and diameter as your current rotors, they are NOT an upgrade. Just because they look fancy doesn’t mean they do anything different. In many cases a 2-piece will be a downgrade because you lose thermal mass, and the weight savings is only a very small difference. Your money is better spent on better tires, pads and larger rotors if it applies to you. Past that, your time is better spent using a pyrometer to determine what your tire pressures and alignment should be to maximize grip.
    Another note: There’s no need to change brake fluid every year. Follow the manufacture’s recommendation in the manual- which is typically every 3 years. Even then, it’s not really ‘dangerous’ to leave it in longer than that. Your pedal will just get squishier and the fluid will boil/freeze at a closer-to-ambient temperatures, but for a lot of people out there, it’s not a huge problem.

  • @stephenfitzsimmons1752
    @stephenfitzsimmons1752 3 года назад +2280

    Money pit in 2020: are big brakes worth it?
    Money pit in 2030: are jet engines worth it?

    • @jonathangt-ramgm3nismo591
      @jonathangt-ramgm3nismo591 3 года назад +76

      Lol itll be with the same miata too

    • @valledahlgren1318
      @valledahlgren1318 3 года назад +31

      lol you really think were even gonna make it past 2025?

    • @Jose-tp9hk
      @Jose-tp9hk 3 года назад +7

      @@valledahlgren1318 you think cause of an epidemic and a cop killing someone (I know other stuff happened) we arent gonna survive?

    • @valledahlgren1318
      @valledahlgren1318 3 года назад +16

      Pxll take a joke man

    • @floriskoster3496
      @floriskoster3496 3 года назад +5

      @@Jose-tp9hk bro it's sarcastic

  • @ragtop63
    @ragtop63 3 года назад +25

    When bleeding the brakes, tie the bleed line to a high point, like the top coil of the springs. This will make bleeding the air way more efficient since the air will always want to make it's way to the summit of the arc faster than the fluid will. Air is lighter than hydraulic fluid.

  • @stephengeorge416
    @stephengeorge416 3 года назад +4

    I love that you guys leave the mistakes and gripes about working on the ground. So relatable lol.

  • @Elias-iq2sc
    @Elias-iq2sc 3 года назад +404

    Jobe family motto: "If it's not done twice, it's not done right."
    The wives in Zachs family must be so satisfied

    • @shahvezkhan8598
      @shahvezkhan8598 3 года назад +5

      lmaooo

    • @clifrusso2174
      @clifrusso2174 3 года назад

      Bahahahaha

    • @tussalframe7653
      @tussalframe7653 3 года назад

      I’m sorry bro that sounds gay

    • @hemesh6903
      @hemesh6903 3 года назад +26

      @@tussalframe7653 how does that sound gay? its literally about sleeping with women

    • @jobri5688
      @jobri5688 3 года назад +21

      @@hemesh6903 2020 bruh, everything is gay.

  • @jeffreydevries2459
    @jeffreydevries2459 3 года назад +425

    Short answer: yes
    Long answer: yeeeeeeees

  • @mxer4life25
    @mxer4life25 3 года назад +14

    I feel that motto on a personal level. Rebuilding my motor and I've had to do quite a bit at least twice. Currently waiting for a timing kit to time the engine for the second time. We got the cams right but the crank was off. Luckily no damage when we attempted to start it.

  • @michaelfigueroa5734
    @michaelfigueroa5734 3 года назад +1

    This was great. It’s awesome when someone’s talking and doing the job. Flows perfectly.

  • @polyscient
    @polyscient 3 года назад +416

    Last video: the Miata needs more power and better cooling.
    This video: let's add parts to slow down faster.
    True Money Pit move.

    • @fila1445
      @fila1445 3 года назад +40

      Well if you planning on adding power the first mod should be brakes, suspension and cooling

    • @gtasanandreascluckinbell
      @gtasanandreascluckinbell 3 года назад +7

      @@fila1445 my buddy and i both owns 1994 m3's and he had a tune it now developp 450 hp and i changed brakes suspension and tires and rims and i was faster around willow springs lol

    • @dariasmadeit834
      @dariasmadeit834 3 года назад +1

      It says read more but there’s nothing more to read...

    • @jjssousa81
      @jjssousa81 3 года назад +8

      That's what most people who actually know car would first. Too many idiots boosting their cars hitting 150mph+ with 15 year old clapped out stock brakes.

    • @andyridgway5019
      @andyridgway5019 3 года назад +1

      making the most of quality content

  • @Matt_v427
    @Matt_v427 3 года назад +317

    When he said hammer is our friend I thought of Jeremy Clarkson hitting the engine bay with hammer in the African special

    • @joelgilby
      @joelgilby 3 года назад +16

      Not the exhaust manifold

    • @LooseWheelFilms
      @LooseWheelFilms 3 года назад +7

      Joel Gilby so obscure but somehow I get it

    • @danielprevratil3149
      @danielprevratil3149 3 года назад +11

      @@LooseWheelFilms I remember it clearly: 'what else is electric?'
      'not the exhaust manifold'

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 3 года назад +1

      The Great African King of Ha'mma'r!

    • @maxjelley4055
      @maxjelley4055 3 года назад +1

      What else In here is electrical?
      Not the exhaust manifold heheahahaaha

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад +23

    I remember going to a 4 piston caliper from a single sliding caliper on a car. Everyone that drove the car loved the feeling of the brakes. What I remember was how well the car would stop going down hill and for that reason I have always wanted Big BRAKES again. (:

    • @hakaase
      @hakaase Год назад

      Good to know! My mazda3 has the same thing, was planning to get the corksport big brake kit which is 4 piston

  • @chrislewis2720
    @chrislewis2720 3 года назад +4

    The beat drop/hammer flip was so satisfying 10:40

  • @MatterBe
    @MatterBe 3 года назад +835

    Unsprung weight: “blah... blah... YOUR MOM blah... blah..”
    uncalled for bro. 🥴

  • @Niranjan04
    @Niranjan04 3 года назад +135

    As James once said - "it ain't fun goin fast if you can't stop."

    • @danielsousa8151
      @danielsousa8151 3 года назад

      Tires dictate that, stock brakes are more than fine for the majority of the situations

    • @alexarango6677
      @alexarango6677 3 года назад

      @@danielsousa8151 Yeah but stock brakes are designed for stock power, if you have a modified engine with +100hp or more than stock your brakes are going to start suffering

    • @VBshredder
      @VBshredder 3 года назад +2

      As a mechanic friend once told me when I was thinking of doing brakes - "You have something more important to do than stop?"

    • @jaspreetsidhu5708
      @jaspreetsidhu5708 2 года назад +1

      @@VBshredder yes I agree with this wholeheartedly. I spend good money on things like tires and brakes. I got nothing more important to do than get to where I'm going and make sure I can stop when I can.

  • @plasma6593
    @plasma6593 3 года назад +9

    1:03 and from the bottom of our hearts, thank you everyone at donut for bringing us great content. u guys help so many people by showing cheaper things then having all the expensive stuff like other youtubers do. you guys are the most relatable for cheap car modding, and good information. So thank you guys, for making our days better

  • @AMAREKVIRUS
    @AMAREKVIRUS 3 года назад

    Thanks Zach and @Donut , watching the Miata series helped me a lot in buying and maintaining my first car!!

  • @DaddyHipo
    @DaddyHipo 3 года назад +118

    This is my favorite show in Donut! Seeing actual parts being put an a vehicle and learning how it actually affects the vehicle makes it so entertaining and educational!

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 3 года назад

      Yeah. He made it worse!

    • @atarvhegde5210
      @atarvhegde5210 3 года назад +3

      ChrisFix : Entertainment and teaches me how to install parts
      MoneyPit : Tells me what part to buy
      Engineering Explained: Teaches me how to calculate range (of electric car) , horsepower , torque and top speed of a carol using maths.
      Carwow: tells me 1/4 mile of every car
      Me: Doesn't have a driving license

    • @---cr8nw
      @---cr8nw 3 года назад +1

      @@atarvhegde5210, if you really want to blow your mind, try Engineering Explained. That's where you'll learn how to dyno your car with math instead of equipment.

    • @atarvhegde5210
      @atarvhegde5210 3 года назад

      @@---cr8nw correct

  • @timhiggins8105
    @timhiggins8105 3 года назад +1593

    “Change brake fluid every year” my family still has the stock brake fluid in our 2004 Toyota Sequoia. Safety first amiright
    Edit: everyone saying that they get bled when new pads are put on, yes probably, but as far as I know no has ever completely drained it and replaced the brake fluid. It probably takes a dozen pad changes to cycle it all out

    • @WilshIAm
      @WilshIAm 3 года назад +174

      that toyota reliability

    • @jrico153
      @jrico153 3 года назад +24

      Amen to that 😂😂

    • @brianm.595
      @brianm.595 3 года назад +31

      Lol... good luck with that stopping when you need it... Also sounds a little fishy, never had a caliper replaced? Since you know they would have to bleed the lines and minimally you would have gotten topped off with new fluid...

    • @Tugboatpb
      @Tugboatpb 3 года назад +70

      Toyota: Let's go places

    • @jrico153
      @jrico153 3 года назад +14

      Tugboatpb was “Mazda” the commercial that said “zoom zoom”?

  • @Yuki_404
    @Yuki_404 3 года назад +6

    Money Pit is such a great show, I've learned so much during this series already and hope that it will continue after the Miata is done!

  • @legioner9
    @legioner9 9 месяцев назад +1

    Top video. I admire people who take care of their neighbours and do not make noise during sleeping hours. That is very, very nice of you, Zach, and of everybody who takes care of the people around them.

  • @christophersmith9533
    @christophersmith9533 3 года назад +243

    Donut; "Go buy our 4mill sub sticker"
    Alfa Romeo; "call the lawyers"

    • @carlrygwelski586
      @carlrygwelski586 3 года назад +3

      Loll I had the same thought

    • @chiranthanmr
      @chiranthanmr 3 года назад +5

      Donut: We are rich now, to thank you for making us rich, we are asking you to buy a random label that you probably wont use to make us even more rich.

    • @sanitasfricabis1740
      @sanitasfricabis1740 3 года назад +1

      It looks just different enough. But only just.

    • @JohanJ2000
      @JohanJ2000 3 года назад +5

      Mirle bruh just be happy that they produce quality content

    • @tylerwilliams9788
      @tylerwilliams9788 3 года назад

      @@chiranthanmr no just no

  • @Yoshi-sc2ln
    @Yoshi-sc2ln 3 года назад +964

    Who agrees that money pit is the best show?? 😄😄

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 3 года назад +19

      It’s even better that he actually made the car worse

    • @scenically6460
      @scenically6460 3 года назад +1

      93 people apparently

    • @running.yetiii
      @running.yetiii 3 года назад +16

      on my side it´s pretty even with hi-low, but great either way :D

    • @CYFODAC
      @CYFODAC 3 года назад +14

      Feels the most relatable. Just a guy working on his car out of their driveway.

    • @scenically6460
      @scenically6460 3 года назад +2

      @@running.yetiii Oh yeah high low is pretty good too.

  • @seanfraser9162
    @seanfraser9162 3 года назад

    Youre past 5 mill now and I just found y'all. Absolutely frickin fabulous. All of it. Really, your're doing great. Thank you.
    Carry on...

  • @philbrown5000
    @philbrown5000 3 года назад +93

    my favorite lines of this show, “i’m zack jobe and this is money pit”

  • @omprakashswain2415
    @omprakashswain2415 3 года назад +42

    I absolutely love hi low and money pit partly because it has Zach in them.

  • @stevenlindell8345
    @stevenlindell8345 3 года назад +13

    This Miata project has replaced science garage for me. I feel emotionally invested.

  • @soyelpalm
    @soyelpalm 2 года назад

    Aww man they’re actually thankful ❤️ I love this channel you guys are amazing and I thank you guys for your amazing content ❤️❤️❤️

  • @williamtasikas3818
    @williamtasikas3818 3 года назад +193

    Y’all see the “your mom” when he was explaining unsprung weight

  • @slappydingus
    @slappydingus 3 года назад +243

    "Are they worth it?"
    "Usually not, no"
    *ends episode*

    • @PACKERMAN2077
      @PACKERMAN2077 3 года назад

      RUclips analytic ad money: "I'll be right back"

    • @farfugnugenmkiv
      @farfugnugenmkiv 3 года назад

      Technically this question was answered in the Hi Low episode as well.

    • @sanitasfricabis1740
      @sanitasfricabis1740 3 года назад

      I mean if you want better brake cooling then rout an air funnel to the brakes. I've done that to a b5 once and it worked wonders.

  • @joshualefebvre4282
    @joshualefebvre4282 Год назад

    One of the reasons I love this channel so much is the connection I have with the verbiage. My wife and I throw “your mom,” into our grocery lists and at each other when we talk about stuff, be it serious stuff or casual conversation and We do it during the holidays too so my mother-in-law is confused also.

  • @jadenparker8093
    @jadenparker8093 3 года назад +5

    Y’all should make a video on a list of the most common tools used for working on cars so people that are just getting into it know what to get. That’s would be dope.

  • @boblast5582
    @boblast5582 3 года назад +1378

    sorry, I'm a brake nerd.
    corrections:
    ceramic pads are not "the best", they're for street duty when you don't wanna deal with dust, and most of them have horrible friction properties and require higher effort on the brake pedal. if you can deal with dust most organic pads make for a better braking experience for a street pad. metallic pads are for the track, the main downside about using them daily isn't no friction at cold (every track/race pad I've driven has a much higher bite at cold, even freezing temps than normal street pads), the downside is they will chew through your rotors at cold/street temps. I've made this mistake and wore out the rotors faster than the pads, by a big margin (daily got totalled so I ended up dailying a car that was supposed to be 90/10 for track/street and it was too cold outside to change the pads). A lot of modern track pads aren't even loud anymore when you get them properly bedded in. But they can become really loud when mixing compounds like switching off between track and street pads.
    drilled rotors were never for cooling. they're drilled for pad degassing back when race brake pads released gas when they got hot. and since race cars had them that makes them look cool. so people started putting them on their street cars. These days pad degassing isn't a thing. if you want the look go for it. if you plan to track, get slotted rotors to prolong rotor life.
    Another important factor not mentioned is rotor thickness. rotor thickness and vane design has the biggest impact on rotor cooling. The thicker the rotor, the more space between the 2 solid sides, the more air can get in there and cool the rotor. the vanes, which connect the 2 solid sides together act like a fan and pump air through it. curved vanes make for a more efficient fan than straight vanes.
    bedding track pads is important, same for aggressive street pads (the ones advertised for autox or claim they can handle light track duty). for regular street pads it doesn't matter. The BP10 is a very mild street pad.
    not correction but advice:
    its also a good idea to put brake grease on the side edges of the pad (only the backing plate, not the friction material) where it comes into contact of the caliper. thats the part of the pad and caliper that rub on each other as you engage and release the brakes. Also an important note is there's brake lube and anti-squeal paste/glue (not exactly sure what to call it). you wanna use the paste/glue stuff on pads that come with shims (typically only street pads come with these) that wrap around the pad backing plate (between the pad and shim) and brake lube where you expect movement. personally I just use high temp anti-seize for track pads. it has a higher temp rating than any brake lube I've ever seen (cause race cars don't use it, its a street car thing)

    • @ThomasThough
      @ThomasThough 3 года назад +75

      Dang 👍

    • @randomesteven3935
      @randomesteven3935 3 года назад +36

      Have to agree.. Bedding of the breaks are different from manufacturer to manufacturer too. When I helped changed mine, the pads manufacturer (bendix I think) suggested to follow OEM brake bedding process, which was ATE and according to what I can find for ATE, normal braking behaviour only. No need for excessive temps or light pressure. We followed this can the brakes got better and better and is still getting better. Of course, some manufacturers recommend the hard braking too, but its usually for hard track pads.

    • @plasma6593
      @plasma6593 3 года назад +98

      i have to applaud you for typing all that lol

    • @kio9922
      @kio9922 3 года назад +56

      Wow..Much thanks for taking your time to type this sir. Very Informative Information. Thanks for sharing such detailed knowledge with us 😎👍

    • @qoxx
      @qoxx 3 года назад +7

      You made a mistake, drilled *rotors* are drilled for cooling too, some cars have air channels at the bottom of the front bumper, which lets air flow into the brake rotors directly.

  • @CRValtierra
    @CRValtierra 3 года назад +150

    "You should change your break fluid every year"
    Me: *looks at my parents 2000 4Runner that hasn't had a break fluid change since 2005*

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 3 года назад +6

      You don’t have to jack up the car just open the bleeders til it’s almost empty and fill with new.
      Let bleed down
      Fill done
      45min passive work tops.
      Empty it into an old plastic bottle.
      No excuses.
      Now you no you are no
      Longer ignorant.
      It makes you something else...

    • @Dom-xr1vq
      @Dom-xr1vq 3 года назад +6

      Is "break" fluid a drink you have with breakfast

    • @SpadeNya
      @SpadeNya 3 года назад +4

      @@Dom-xr1vq yes, you should also take it on your lunch break. It helps to strengthen your bones so they don't... Well y'know.

    • @CRValtierra
      @CRValtierra 3 года назад

      @@Dom-xr1vq yes

    • @christianrubiofarias7401
      @christianrubiofarias7401 3 года назад

      Jajaja looked at my car, 10 years same brake fluid

  • @medsimvallejo
    @medsimvallejo 2 года назад

    Your videos are spectacularly informative!!! I continue to learn from you!!! THanks!!!

  • @MohnJayerOfficial
    @MohnJayerOfficial 3 года назад

    haven't been here for too long, just since 2 mil. its so crazy how the time flies watching the channels you love. please never stop making videos. Congrats guys!

  • @fablemaker_
    @fablemaker_ 3 года назад +138

    Miata: Overheats while on track
    Zach: "This is big brake time"

    • @clifrusso2174
      @clifrusso2174 3 года назад

      Needs a better air intake

    • @adrianolacerda3410
      @adrianolacerda3410 3 года назад +8

      Bigger radiator be like: aye mate wtf

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 3 года назад +1

      Yeah I see your questions point. Also makes us wonder if he's doing these episodes in a staged manner?

  • @fredhomerin
    @fredhomerin 3 года назад +77

    track day test: engine overheating ... Zach "gotta see that next"
    next modification: Zach putting big breaks huauahhayh
    Still best car show on youtube!!

  • @Evictt
    @Evictt 3 года назад +1

    I love these guys tbh they offer hours and hours of entertainment... congrats on 4 mil

  • @masonpugh3637
    @masonpugh3637 Год назад

    His videos are doing real good and real informative especially like the one with the wheels on the Miata offset tires and wheel purchase for my car 4x100 and how he explains it in detail thank you

  • @trippmartin2423
    @trippmartin2423 3 года назад +299

    are we not going to applaud the editors for putting a “your mom” joke in at 8:02?

    • @noname-pb9vj
      @noname-pb9vj 3 года назад +14

      Saw it just wanted to see who else noticed it.

    • @jakemoritz2792
      @jakemoritz2792 3 года назад +6

      @@noname-pb9vj Same here

    • @sejol3081
      @sejol3081 3 года назад +9

      @J Swett well that's a weak bait if i ever saw one

    • @bushtruck
      @bushtruck 3 года назад

      I just started a channel where I break trucks in the mountains. Sometimes I run with only one break because the break lines get caught on a rocks and ripped off

    • @theboysofeasyco
      @theboysofeasyco 3 года назад

      I missed that thanks

  • @Vade4545
    @Vade4545 3 года назад +201

    "Change brake fluid every year" well i just heard millions of people all over the internet ask what brake fluid is

    • @jediael9906
      @jediael9906 3 года назад

      @JENNY [f.u.с.к мe] ТАР 0N МY РIC bots

    • @csabahegedus6375
      @csabahegedus6375 3 года назад +15

      It's something like blinker fluid.

    • @grantkendrick277
      @grantkendrick277 3 года назад +13

      Nah this sounds like that blinker fluid shit my dad tried to get me to buy at auto zone once. They looked at me like I was stupid.
      No my car won’t stop properly but if I pump the pedal 3 times it starts to work a little
      Seems good to me

    • @arthellstrobles1241
      @arthellstrobles1241 3 года назад +1

      I feel attacked🤣

    • @Vade4545
      @Vade4545 3 года назад +1

      The more i think of it, the more i realize i shouldnt have said anything since idk where to put brake fluid nor have i ever done it XD

  • @BoneChillingPictures
    @BoneChillingPictures 3 месяца назад

    man why i love this channel. Explains breaks and why I should think about getting or not. For me ill just upgrade to ceramic. means more lasting then what I have.

  • @michaelaalbanese1740
    @michaelaalbanese1740 3 года назад

    Congrats on 4 mil keep up the great content and I love the Miata build

  • @cloudylonk985
    @cloudylonk985 3 года назад +202

    Change your brake fluid every year
    My dad : Still has the original break fluid in his Mk4 Golf

    • @Kiwing4lyfe
      @Kiwing4lyfe 3 года назад +11

      Yeah, at least it still had the fluid lol

    • @eeshunique
      @eeshunique 3 года назад +7

      one down hill run on a canyon and thats a dead dad

    • @g.d2450
      @g.d2450 3 года назад +15

      Not original brake fluid as it will most likely be about 60% water now

    • @turbo86lol
      @turbo86lol 3 года назад +1

      better than nothing

    • @gangstar662
      @gangstar662 3 года назад +8

      My car os losing break fluid to the point that I have to refill it every other day.. so I never need to change it I am basically renewing it on the go😎

  • @joshuad1716
    @joshuad1716 3 года назад +46

    I just ordered a bbk for my m3, video timing = couldn’t be more perfect as usual

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 3 года назад

      A m3 already has big brakes

    • @joshuad1716
      @joshuad1716 3 года назад

      Nathan Brame e46 does not. The brakes fade after relatively easy canyon driving. Just picked up an ECS 6 piston front kit :)

    • @xva17
      @xva17 3 года назад

      Nathan Brame they got a slow boi M3

    • @elquemelocambiaesputio
      @elquemelocambiaesputio 3 года назад

      Big black K

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 3 года назад

      Joshua Duarte 6 piston? Lol my Mustang GT has 2 piston brakes.

  • @tythekoenigseggenthusiast2573
    @tythekoenigseggenthusiast2573 3 года назад

    This video really helped. I'm gonna be putting a big brake kit on my car and it gave good insight

  • @Norman_Fleming
    @Norman_Fleming Год назад

    Watching these videos in 2022. Really enjoying the informational content.

  • @justinranes3351
    @justinranes3351 3 года назад +45

    When the big brake kit cost more than the Miata itself 😭😂

  • @texasdemon6525
    @texasdemon6525 3 года назад +327

    Donut: "blows gauge fuses and constantly worries about the temperature on track day"
    Donut: woopsie doopsie I think my brakes are weak

    • @justaguy6415
      @justaguy6415 3 года назад +15

      Weak brakes make your gauge fuses blow up. Facts!

  • @rkgsd
    @rkgsd 2 года назад +1

    "in most cases, probably not worth it". I subscribed due to that single bit of honesty.

  • @LemmeCheckMark
    @LemmeCheckMark 3 года назад +1

    Got here at 1million, you grew immensely since then. Congratulations.

  • @aggonzalezdc
    @aggonzalezdc 3 года назад +238

    My mother is not unsprung! Unhinged maybe but thats beside the point...

    • @stephenK11
      @stephenK11 3 года назад +6

      underrated comment

  • @urfathersmelledofelderberr9498
    @urfathersmelledofelderberr9498 3 года назад +148

    Unsprung weight
    Example: Your mom
    “911 Id like to report that shoots are being fired”

  • @briandoss9232
    @briandoss9232 Год назад

    I've never worked on cars before. But this is providing good insight for Gran Tourismo...

  • @ricardosmith7667
    @ricardosmith7667 3 года назад

    Im learning so much from this guy

  • @cmsxboi
    @cmsxboi 3 года назад +67

    He slept weird... in fact he even told us “I slept weird, taken miata commission” 😂😂😂

  • @Tryingmybestsince1999
    @Tryingmybestsince1999 3 года назад +159

    With a stock Miata you could have just put a good set of pads, steel brake lines and new brake fluid and go with it. That big brake kit would go along a turbocharged Miata. So I guess your next video will be a turbo one?? :)

    • @johnnymnemonic69
      @johnnymnemonic69 3 года назад +27

      Yes! 😆 the stops upgraded. Now time to upgrade the go.

    • @Ward1706
      @Ward1706 3 года назад +2

      Why is everyone so opposed to supercharged cars?

    • @johnnymnemonic69
      @johnnymnemonic69 3 года назад +3

      @@Ward1706 ? It's Japanese. Supercharged aint bad.

    • @Tryingmybestsince1999
      @Tryingmybestsince1999 3 года назад +5

      @@Ward1706 mate I'm not opposed to superchargers. I have a mini cooper s supercharged!!! Turbochargers are just more efficient.

    • @matthewkuhl79
      @matthewkuhl79 3 года назад +12

      It's called _Money Pit_ for a reason. It's not _Logic Pit_

  • @FloridaMan0561
    @FloridaMan0561 3 года назад

    The purple brackets are sweet. I had a chrome BMX back in the day with the same purple accents,seat clamp,goose neck,rim hubs all that anodized purple and it looked so good.

  • @latronwilliams7578
    @latronwilliams7578 2 года назад

    I have learned alot from watching your work sir.

  • @jfisch
    @jfisch 3 года назад +48

    "Your mom is unsprung weight." Nice.

  • @AhmadHassan-uk2ff
    @AhmadHassan-uk2ff 3 года назад +33

    I was literally just watching money pit wondering when the next episode will come out. 😂

  • @wnd2845
    @wnd2845 Год назад +1

    I’ve been binge watching Donut Media and Money Pit for the last week. I need friends like these to help me fix my car😢 Modifying a car is no joke and I appreciate you guys making content such as this because it really does teach people stuff. Especially girls who don’t have dads or brothers in their life that can help them fix their cars. Much love to you guys🫶🏻

  • @elvistasha7395
    @elvistasha7395 2 года назад

    Quality information right here!

  • @maliktafo5307
    @maliktafo5307 2 года назад

    I just love your work
    man love you

  • @eXclurel
    @eXclurel 3 года назад +16

    7:10 This is exactly what I was telling my brother to convince him to change our car's brakes. Thanks for backing me up.

    • @European_carclub
      @European_carclub 3 года назад +1

      I'd say it's worth it to get a brake upgrade if you have a high horsepower car that need good brakes. If you don't track your car, just get a set of OEM brakes that would be just good for daily driving.

  • @oscarpelcastre8724
    @oscarpelcastre8724 3 года назад +27

    8:09 the text “your mom” 😂 that made me subscribe 👌😂

  • @UpdogGolf
    @UpdogGolf 3 года назад

    Jobe should really be the only one giving advice on cars. He's not reading the night before, he's got experience backed by more experience. He's a sucker for the "look" but also tells you the cold hard truth. By far my favorite RUclips series.

  • @theram8787
    @theram8787 3 года назад

    Thanks for the free blinker fluid.

  • @NerdLifeChoice
    @NerdLifeChoice 3 года назад +89

    Zach has got to be one of the most chill and patient dudes in the world.... That and the fact that he does everything twice to make sure it's done right - must make his wife the luckiest woman in the world 🥳😂

  • @todd2020
    @todd2020 3 года назад +152

    nobody
    Zach: *talking about his miata*
    the birds: "HAHAHAAAHAHAHAH"

    • @clifrusso2174
      @clifrusso2174 3 года назад

      Bahahahaha

    • @viktorbihar5384
      @viktorbihar5384 3 года назад

      Oh, didn't realize how good the joke was, till the birds showed up😂😂😂

    • @gabes9998
      @gabes9998 3 года назад

      the timing of me reading this...

  • @RodrickLodowica
    @RodrickLodowica 3 года назад

    Thanks man. I learned a lot this episode.

  • @NinjaForHire
    @NinjaForHire 4 месяца назад

    "It's not done twice it’s not done right"~ Has become the motto of Donut over the years.

  • @wakarjaffri1538
    @wakarjaffri1538 3 года назад +28

    Dam just realised I was here when donut was at 500k subs now look

    • @ryanmceachin2784
      @ryanmceachin2784 3 года назад

      How long ago was that?

    • @jobri5688
      @jobri5688 3 года назад

      Been around for a couple years I remember 2 mil. Didn't seem that long ago.

  • @Dad32646
    @Dad32646 3 года назад +10

    5:48 holy shit editor, what a nostalgia! Now im off to look for the game! Wow!

  • @brunos6599
    @brunos6599 Год назад +2

    11:19 The most that I ever done in a car was to change a set of tires and even I know that when you're going under it you better have a backup plan in case it falls, like wheels or logs to support the weight of the car just enough so you don't get crushed.

  • @sawyer5061
    @sawyer5061 3 года назад

    Congrats on 4 mil subs for real!

  • @hyp3rw1ng39
    @hyp3rw1ng39 3 года назад +92

    Congrats on 4 mil
    But am I the only one that sees the “red” calipers as orange?

  • @mgcharoudin
    @mgcharoudin 3 года назад +5

    Yes

  • @mariusdalen
    @mariusdalen 3 года назад +1

    Sidenote:clean your wheel hub when replacing rotors, the tend to build upp rust and shit you dont want clearly seen at 8:25. If not done, over time the hub gets uneven and warps the rotors faster.
    Love the moneypit series!

  • @squidlordo7793
    @squidlordo7793 3 года назад

    Jobes knowledge is lush . smart sir indeed

  • @XxMrWink3rxX
    @XxMrWink3rxX 3 года назад +53

    9:17 in 2020 reaction whenever someone sneezes or coughs
    “aaAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!”

  • @kost0withazero238
    @kost0withazero238 3 года назад +13

    I love brakes they make my dads Escalade stop before going off a cliff

  • @irvingsanguinetti7659
    @irvingsanguinetti7659 Год назад

    I admire 1000% he works on the floor. Down to earth DYI.. And explains it understandable.

  • @sierra_619
    @sierra_619 3 года назад

    Waiting for the day you guys wrap the Miata!!

  • @oscarchang486
    @oscarchang486 3 года назад +15

    4:45 good place to put an ad...
    Got me thinkin what tab I forgot to close...

    • @sinfulharlot
      @sinfulharlot 3 года назад +1

      Fax I was like hold on🧐, I had to search it up bc I thought I was trippin

    • @oscaradam8201
      @oscaradam8201 3 года назад

      Lmao I clicked the time stamp and I got a ad 😂😂

    • @nicobeans4044
      @nicobeans4044 3 года назад

      sneaky sneaky @Donut Media

  • @alexdronesandvlogs167
    @alexdronesandvlogs167 3 года назад +43

    Everyone were expecting Money Pit to post: “are aftermarket radiator worth it?”

  • @Zykodin
    @Zykodin 3 года назад +4

    16:10 ProTip: Make sure you keep the fluid topped up if you are doing this yourself, last thing you want is to pull more air through the system! :)

  • @Wheelmankd
    @Wheelmankd 3 года назад

    I'm really excited about 4 mill i been watching this before 1mill so keep growing and we will continue to show love.