Are Headers Worth It?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 7 тыс.

  • @antoinechartrand483
    @antoinechartrand483 4 года назад +10010

    Donut putting a little timer during their sponsors is god tier thank you

    • @Lucasrules930
      @Lucasrules930 4 года назад +7

      I

    • @iam4610
      @iam4610 4 года назад +91

      Agreed - these guys are awesome.

    • @Rollermanfromspace
      @Rollermanfromspace 4 года назад +191

      What's not God tier is the two, unskippable 15 second ads

    • @bell3287
      @bell3287 4 года назад +85

      @@Rollermanfromspace Yeah and apparently I should join the navy

    • @sebastiang9435
      @sebastiang9435 4 года назад +3

      Bro ongggg

  • @brycet464
    @brycet464 4 года назад +3015

    I hope this series continues after the miata is “done”, it would be nice to see this done with some other inexpensive tuner cars

  • @MexicanNamedBrandon
    @MexicanNamedBrandon 4 года назад +535

    i just finished re-assembling my engine and I have a piston left over. From my experience building things LEGO has taught me there is always extra pieces when you finish

    • @nicom4996
      @nicom4996 4 года назад +14

      Hahahahaha a spare part

    • @brazgazz
      @brazgazz 4 года назад +19

      You're gonna end up with wayy more "spare" parts. 💥🚗⬅️

    • @kilobravo6197
      @kilobravo6197 4 года назад +39

      Its okay one piston less is ur weight reducing kit

    • @harshal_4598
      @harshal_4598 4 года назад +9

      They say if you forget installing something, it was probably not that important

    • @botandrew1
      @botandrew1 4 года назад

      *facepalm*

  • @MrJeepinZeke
    @MrJeepinZeke 3 года назад +511

    Don’t forget you can also justify it by it being 1 piece to the whole puzzle. If you add 3-4 mods that give you an extra 3-6 hp that’s not nothing. And to say you’ve modded/customized your car and made it act differently is also cool.

    • @adamstreetboyzz
      @adamstreetboyzz Год назад +54

      People forget it’s about making your car your own as well.

    • @jonathanpinckney9227
      @jonathanpinckney9227 Год назад +7

      I was going to comment something similar I heard from a BladedAngel video. He talked about how mods add up over time, and it's not just throwing on one mod and boom, a hundred extra horses.

    • @jonathanpinckney9227
      @jonathanpinckney9227 Год назад +2

      @@adamstreetboyzz Straight up. Mod it how you want it, but do the mods right.

    • @718snoopymoe_nyc7
      @718snoopymoe_nyc7 Год назад +5

      The word is synergy the combined accumulation of all the mods adding up . That’s fine and ok but if you were to to get a dyno flash tune or Ecutek with headers , performance exhaust & A cool air intake u will see massive gains in HP, Torque & MPG

    • @parkour267
      @parkour267 7 месяцев назад +2

      My wallet will disagree

  • @JeffOfTheMountains
    @JeffOfTheMountains 4 года назад +875

    10:20 "Yeah I'm kinda worried we might max out the dyno on this one."
    Destruction: *100*

    • @12taskforce
      @12taskforce 4 года назад +40

      Didn't have to do him like that lol

    • @ps3shakes123
      @ps3shakes123 4 года назад +17

      When stock motorcycles make 2.5x your power..

    • @Hope4Today9
      @Hope4Today9 4 года назад +3

      I think the guy was genuinely concern about the RPM (however I doubt his concern was warranted ~ still I don't know his dyno-specs.)

    • @DynoPoV
      @DynoPoV 4 года назад

      Ey that’s my name

    • @JeffOfTheMountains
      @JeffOfTheMountains 4 года назад +2

      @@Hope4Today9 That's a fair point. It's definitely not the style of dyno I've seen in other videos.

  • @gnrfan713
    @gnrfan713 4 года назад +608

    Is that a 95 miata? The factory header on those has pretty good flow for a stock header. I think that's why you didn't see much of an increase.

    • @ajsimmons1156
      @ajsimmons1156 4 года назад +69

      You're not wrong. When he pulled the heat shield, I thought maybe he was wasting his time. Think he would have had better results replacing an unfortunate exhaust manifold.

    • @Not_A_Cat
      @Not_A_Cat 4 года назад +44

      You don't get any gains from headers on 1.6 or 1.8 miata. 1.8 has a great factory header. 4-2-1 collector flows nicely from factory. Cat delete and free flow muffler = win

    • @josecarlossilva648
      @josecarlossilva648 4 года назад +9

      I was just thinking that, that engine is pretty good for a stock.

    • @ElPants21
      @ElPants21 4 года назад +22

      @@ajsimmons1156 key words here are "heat shield"
      Without heat management the open air filter is sucking hot air. The potential is there but needs improvement.

    • @casparharte
      @casparharte 4 года назад +5

      The stock one looked better quality IMO.

  • @JoshD4PREZ
    @JoshD4PREZ 4 года назад +516

    This is literally the smoothest header install I’ve ever seen lol no bolt cutting, rubber mallet-ing, or cursing.. amazing!

    • @aaronthomas6155
      @aaronthomas6155 4 года назад +37

      Yeah.....not a very realistic video....

    • @TacoPotatoMustang
      @TacoPotatoMustang 4 года назад +13

      Right? lol I remember doing the headers on an LS1 TransAm and it involved much swearing, bloody knuckles, and took close to an entire day

    • @DILLYBAR31869
      @DILLYBAR31869 4 года назад +8

      Dude, I put headers on my new edge mustang GT, took me forever, but I got them on and it sounded AMAZING.
      Was it worth it? Yep

    • @alfredino724
      @alfredino724 4 года назад +2

      no tool dropping neither

    • @jirivymazal8427
      @jirivymazal8427 4 года назад +1

      Yep, this one was really smooth... try something like that on a Busso transverse V6 and you are done with headers for life....

  • @VQ37MOMO
    @VQ37MOMO 3 года назад +48

    I love how much raspier the Miata with the header installed and I'd say it's worth it you got better exhaust gas flow now.

  • @Ando.Official
    @Ando.Official 4 года назад +1825

    “I’m really worried we’re gonna max out the dyno” had me dead 😂

    • @Idylla
      @Idylla 4 года назад +99

      Said it so stone cold serious too!

    • @k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181
      @k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181 4 года назад +6

      I was laughing until I scrolled down here...at the end of the video.

    • @user-cx4ev9fw1k
      @user-cx4ev9fw1k 4 года назад

      I really wish price per HP for bolton was not so expensive

    • @garyg7145
      @garyg7145 4 года назад

      @@user-cx4ev9fw1k when dealing with such awesome performance that's what it takes.

    • @insiditious6203
      @insiditious6203 4 года назад +20

      I didn’t realize it was a joke at first and was so confused 😂😂 he kept the straightest face to lmao

  • @Kyz4
    @Kyz4 4 года назад +2325

    "Thats why we got to turbo this thing"
    The pistons : I dont feel so good

    • @ericksanchez7787
      @ericksanchez7787 4 года назад +9

      What do you mean 1.6 are very tough engines

    • @Vehicular.Shenanigans
      @Vehicular.Shenanigans 4 года назад +37

      He means rods

    • @christiandavila510
      @christiandavila510 4 года назад +6

      Rods can hold like 250wheel wym

    • @compy2273
      @compy2273 4 года назад +2

      Wait I thought he said it was a 94 in the last episode. Aren’t those 1.8s?

    • @clipsedrag13
      @clipsedrag13 4 года назад +1

      compression and rods are what matters.

  • @PizzaParkersGarage
    @PizzaParkersGarage 4 года назад +789

    The crossover episode we're all looking forward to: Up to Speed on eBay Turbos featuring: The money pit Miata

    • @ultraguy8771
      @ultraguy8771 4 года назад +21

      Along with a B2B on the Miata once it's done.

    • @HarisAhmedKhann
      @HarisAhmedKhann 4 года назад +3

      @pizzaparkersgarage hey i saw your comment on Car throttle in their latest roast my ride video 🤟🏻

    • @lactose7733
      @lactose7733 4 года назад +1

      A vid on an eBay turbo would be his hardest challenge cause it wouldn’t fit right at all and he wouldn’t be able to use it without many trails and a lot of error

    • @ebayturboproductions6133
      @ebayturboproductions6133 4 года назад +1

      Wutang wooshi bois FTW

    • @nrahman975
      @nrahman975 4 года назад +3

      Boosted boiz

  • @stevegrieve3213
    @stevegrieve3213 3 года назад +51

    When you do any mods like this or the pod filter, you need to reset your "base idle", how to do this is in the workshop manual, your xtra couple of horsepower may be there & it will run & idle so much better,
    cheers
    Steve
    North Harbour Mazda.

    • @gristlevonraben
      @gristlevonraben 2 года назад +1

      Probably right

    • @sassydasassquatch5326
      @sassydasassquatch5326 2 года назад +2

      wait North Harbour Mazda in Auckland new Zealand? lol my girl mate jessie works there thats buzzy as

  • @ShiningXwolf
    @ShiningXwolf 4 года назад +348

    While James is still the GOAT, Donut adding Zach to the crew and giving him his own series has been the best thing they've ever done.

    • @justincredible5406
      @justincredible5406 4 года назад +9

      Jeremiah is top dog too though!

    • @tommegg8486
      @tommegg8486 4 года назад +5

      Hey don't forget our milk driven, naturally aspirated Nolan

    • @prof.crastinator
      @prof.crastinator 7 месяцев назад

      nolan is the sleeper here. But yeah- zach is awesome. They have a good personality spectrum in general.

  • @harrisonfulton3559
    @harrisonfulton3559 4 года назад +520

    “Now that we got it nice and hot, let’s go touch it.” 😂😂😂

    • @xanvasanx
      @xanvasanx 4 года назад +1

      Underrated comment XD

    • @maxcactus7
      @maxcactus7 4 года назад

      That's what she said.

    • @rowanlewisuk
      @rowanlewisuk 4 года назад +2

      And thats how I met your mother

  • @ctre97
    @ctre97 4 года назад +414

    I'd really like to see some ECU tuning done at some point

    • @teachingthecode4651
      @teachingthecode4651 4 года назад +21

      I think they tried that is one episode about making it shoot flames... It's pretty limited in that episode. I think it's great that they are working on a car most people could afford and have fun with. It's most interesting to work with limitations.

    • @JonarusDraconius
      @JonarusDraconius 4 года назад +17

      Some sort of re-tune would have to be in order at some point though - All these parts, and the limited gains from the parts themselves? You could gain so much more from a re-tune that is actually mapped to take full advantage of the parts.
      That is why on my L36 engine build (Holden Commodore, being Aussie and all), I have every intention of replacing my stock engine management sooner or later, even though my plans don't go beyond "mild daily-driver NA spec". Bonus - A retune with better equipment should not only gain me even more power, but actually make the engine more fuel-efficient too!
      ~JD

    • @ckbhack
      @ckbhack 4 года назад +8

      In order to pull this off you really need to go to a standalone. Miata ECUs do not lend them selves to easy tuning.

    • @iamsam8446
      @iamsam8446 4 года назад +11

      An ECU tune will usually net you more ponies than a header, CAI, and catback.

    • @geoadhyatmazenkusuma6705
      @geoadhyatmazenkusuma6705 4 года назад

      probably some piggyback would do

  • @Raven-Creations
    @Raven-Creations 3 года назад +129

    I'm surprised you made as much as you did. The weather (temperature and pressure) might have accounted for the difference you saw. The stock header didn't look like a bad design (unlike a lot of the horrible cast iron headers found on many cars), plus you ditched the heat shield, which means you're losing energy from the gases which can reduce the ability to scavenge and you're increasing your air intake temperature.

    • @corne6673
      @corne6673 Год назад +3

      Do you think temperature tape would help?

    • @oceanwaves83
      @oceanwaves83 Год назад +13

      For real that was the most headerish stock manifold I've seen in a minute

    • @michaelchristiansen1497
      @michaelchristiansen1497 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@oceanwaves83 Agreed, the factory piece was pretty good. With iron log manifolds the gains would be greater.

  • @Ettertube
    @Ettertube 4 года назад +296

    Zach: "Now that we got it nice and hot, let's go touch it"
    me: **gasps with excitement**

    • @Sorrymarcel
      @Sorrymarcel 4 года назад +1

      That made my day just a lil better 😂

    • @SudoMimic3
      @SudoMimic3 4 года назад +1

      I had to do this when i lost a vband bolt after driving it. Next to some glowing turbos. That was fun.

  • @JDG.7R
    @JDG.7R 4 года назад +1239

    "we got to turbo this thing"
    *piston rods have left the chat*

  • @Jamal_sml
    @Jamal_sml 4 года назад +1681

    “I’m really worried we’re gonna max out the dyno” LMAO

    • @TheAdatto
      @TheAdatto 4 года назад +8

      Maybe rpm?

    • @piero914
      @piero914 4 года назад +32

      I almost spit out my drink when he said that lolol

    • @99Barnyard
      @99Barnyard 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAdatto Hope that was it was.

    • @irwinbonilla-guerra4196
      @irwinbonilla-guerra4196 4 года назад +12

      Coldlight Oracle I think he’s prepping for Turbo old ones maybe wouldn’t handle it?

    • @albertoacosta6788
      @albertoacosta6788 4 года назад +2

      The only time I laughed in this video lmao

  • @FreemanConcepts
    @FreemanConcepts Год назад +32

    The original manifold was a really good design for flow, the only reason you probably saw any increase was because you removed the catalytic converter which was probably the only real restriction in the exhaust system

    • @TheFRiNgEguitars
      @TheFRiNgEguitars 11 месяцев назад +4

      Good point! But also a factor, the longer primary tubes on the header scavenge better in the mid band, increasing torque through the power band.

    • @rbm4163
      @rbm4163 9 месяцев назад

      Looks like that NA had the stock iron head swapped out with the NB 01 header, which is pretty decent. I had a 00 with iron header, swapped it out with the 01 header which I had powder coated and kept the heat shield and have the RoadsterSport mid-pipe and RS4 exhaust along with a CAI and MazdaSpeed intake camshaft. The engine really pulls above 4k and has a nice low burble when cruising around. But, when you are really going in the canyons, it's sonorous and responsive. Stuck with he 01 header so I can pass emissions testing, plus it was cheap and still better than the Iron one.

  • @JohnzoGhonzo
    @JohnzoGhonzo 4 года назад +283

    Favorite show, Wednesday’s are better with Zach. ❤️

    • @N0-Acc3ss
      @N0-Acc3ss 4 года назад

      I wonder what's next?

    • @alexz9334
      @alexz9334 4 года назад +2

      @@N0-Acc3ss Thursday

  • @derrickstorm6976
    @derrickstorm6976 4 года назад +991

    Power steering: magically repaired*

    • @Donut
      @Donut  4 года назад +542

      Haha! I found a nice used one for $100 and slammed that in there!

    • @reccatyo
      @reccatyo 4 года назад +19

      @@Donut So what caused the problem from the last episode?.

    • @padrescout
      @padrescout 4 года назад +65

      @@Donut SHHHHHHHH!!!! You fixed it! You fixed it with your mechanical wizardry.

    • @Gtank74
      @Gtank74 4 года назад +17

      @@Donut Ok, I was worried about that. Glad it's fixed I can't wait for the turbo!

    • @austenfaulstich868
      @austenfaulstich868 4 года назад +2

      Lol

  • @dfabove9108
    @dfabove9108 3 года назад +1372

    Wow, this takes me back to 1968 when I bought a Datsun 2000 roadster that had 135 hp stock. I was stationed at Edwards air force base and we had unlimited space to run flat out. I was in the army and one of the civilian engineers (MIT) had a new Porsche 912 targa and we would race in the desert . I could always beat him on top speed (135 mph) but cornering I couldn't keep up. I decided to look into speed equipment and even being a So Cal boy in 1968 Datsun was like what? Luckily I went to Iskendarian looking for parts who sent be to Pete Brock who had an operation sponsored by the Datsun factory to develop racing cars and parts and to support independents like me too go fast in Datsuns ! I bought the factory racing cam, side draft webbers ,factor racing headers and to many small items to mention. I swapped out the stock 560-14" wheels and tires for Minilite magnesium wheels with Goodyear Blu-streak racing tires. The Porsche guy was in shock when we had a chance to go again as my funny little Japanese Datsun with north of 200 HP could go north of 160 mph and corner as good or better than the Porsche! I didn't find out until years later how famous Pete Brock was! I'm still remembering him and his also famous mechanic being regular super helpful guys actually turning wrenches under my hood when I was just a soldier back from Viet Nam stationed at edwards AFB....they treated me like a VIP !

    • @kaydnn700
      @kaydnn700 3 года назад +73

      Amazing story! That’s super cool!

    • @REVUPMEDIA
      @REVUPMEDIA 3 года назад +62

      Thanks for the story !! Would’ve loved to see a Datsun vs Porsche race 😂

    • @takeapieandrun
      @takeapieandrun 2 года назад +25

      Magnesium wheels... that was a different time lol.

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 2 года назад +10

      LEGENDARY!!! Thanks for sharing!

    • @attunedofficial
      @attunedofficial 2 года назад +15

      That's such a cool story. I know it's been a while, but do you still have the car? Just curious.

  • @overcastfriday81
    @overcastfriday81 Год назад +19

    What you removed was basically a shorty header...especially when compared to some oem exhausts of the past. Nice test..thx

  • @bread8857
    @bread8857 4 года назад +382

    when donut works on cars: everything goes smoothly
    when I work on cars: finds out the previous owner superglued everything together

    • @chimi24
      @chimi24 4 года назад +9

      ...fucking rockset

    • @BlackringIII
      @BlackringIII 4 года назад +19

      The car is now 51% bondo

    • @isaachaynes6935
      @isaachaynes6935 4 года назад +8

      lmao watch the previous episode of money pit

    • @nemesis6892
      @nemesis6892 4 года назад

      Loool

    • @sl....
      @sl.... 4 года назад

      Si wey

  • @sleeper-up3xy
    @sleeper-up3xy 4 года назад +394

    OK who doesn’t start their car with open headers. This is like against the law not to do that

    • @danielolivera4796
      @danielolivera4796 4 года назад +56

      His already the most popular neighbor on the block, maybe he doesn't want to disturb his neighbors even more than usual

    • @DavieJones_Lockr
      @DavieJones_Lockr 4 года назад +13

      uhhh...... I actually do thinknits against the law to start it with an open header lol.... I get what you mean though haha

    • @saint-cetacean
      @saint-cetacean 4 года назад +20

      @@DavieJones_Lockr
      Yeah def illegal in CA:
      Any model post-1971 you can't run open headers on the street because you're bypassing the cat.
      Plus if it makes more than 95dB at 3/4 throttle, you're violating noise limitations.

    • @danielmorris8461
      @danielmorris8461 4 года назад +9

      Den I//Noble Russkie who cares my car bypasses the cat and I daily

    • @yo-no9879
      @yo-no9879 4 года назад +6

      My tinnitus says otherwise.

  • @maggiecallahan935
    @maggiecallahan935 4 года назад +1365

    It’s not about the miles per hour, it’s about the smiles per hour 🙂

    • @CoDisafishy
      @CoDisafishy 4 года назад +51

      I'd be very sad spending $400 for 4 horsepower haha

    • @atcpadi1
      @atcpadi1 4 года назад +30

      That's why I measure my enjoyment in my car in smiles per gallon. How dare anyone tell me my miles per gallon aren't great lol

    • @christianmartinez9442
      @christianmartinez9442 4 года назад +22

      It’s about bitches per revs

    • @bobthebuilder-nm5fz
      @bobthebuilder-nm5fz 4 года назад +3

      It's about the powa baby!!!

    • @teaguethings8442
      @teaguethings8442 4 года назад +2

      Smiles per miles *

  • @TravisFabel
    @TravisFabel 3 года назад +17

    When you do this you should also be logging your airflow ratio so that you can see if it runs a little leaner or something...

  • @matthewb9241
    @matthewb9241 4 года назад +768

    “Alright now that we got it nice and hot, let’s go touch it”
    LMFAO, ngl that was pretty funny.

    • @KentRodgman
      @KentRodgman 4 года назад +3

      I snort laughed pretty hard at that one. Because I was just thinking "maybe let it sit with the hood open for a bit" haha

    • @callum5687
      @callum5687 4 года назад +1

      Instructions unclear, no longer have fingerprints 😂

    • @davidparadis490
      @davidparadis490 4 года назад

      He heated it up to make the bolts easier to extract

  • @angelcarcamo3278
    @angelcarcamo3278 4 года назад +1267

    Zach is the CEO of “while we’re in here, might as well...”

    • @radenfoxchambers1752
      @radenfoxchambers1752 4 года назад +34

      Yep, that’s pretty much every DIY’er lol

    • @alexstromberg7696
      @alexstromberg7696 4 года назад +9

      Changing the studs is something you should do

    • @Mitchismelon
      @Mitchismelon 4 года назад +7

      @@alexstromberg7696 might as well while you're in there

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 4 года назад +4

      If it ain’t broke...
      His luck he fucks up the threads and has a leak.
      No reason to replace studs without a problem or rusty.
      Also, the average joe should expect to snap a few studs.
      I want to watch him drill out a steel stud from aluminum head.
      Nah jk. Im not that mean.

    • @Josh-lz3xo
      @Josh-lz3xo 4 года назад +8

      nooo... that's chrisfix

  • @GRIFAbyte101
    @GRIFAbyte101 4 года назад +278

    "That's why we got to turbo this thing"
    $400 Headers: Wait, c-cant we talk about this?!

    • @Jwall1310
      @Jwall1310 4 года назад +1

      I bet they supercharge it

    • @erty2389
      @erty2389 4 года назад

      Justin Wall they really wont

    • @saulekaravirs6585
      @saulekaravirs6585 4 года назад +9

      @@Jwall1310 if the Turbo it, you would still be right to call it supercharged. What we call turbochargers today, used to be called centripetal turbo superchargers. A turbocharger is just a turbine powered supercharger, and the electric turbos you hear about these days are technically not turbos at all, they are just electric powered centripetal superchargers.

  • @jimr5703
    @jimr5703 2 года назад +9

    Older vid, but good info and fun. The stock Mazda part looks really great. Typical engine with log style irons can get 10% gains with long tubes.
    If you're looking for a few ponies, get rid of that heat soaking under hood air filter. Get your stock box back and use a KnN drop in. Sucking in hot under hood air causes your PCM to pull timing to prevent knock. Also, run a 160 thermostat if your car won't throw a CEL, otherwise a 170 will net you a few ponies as well.

    • @caribooskidoo3997
      @caribooskidoo3997 2 года назад

      I always thought it was weird that those are called cold air intakes when really they are hot air intakes.

  • @randombob924
    @randombob924 4 года назад +134

    I love this series bc I’m also in the process of building my ‘93 black NA Miata lol
    I’d love to see
    - rollbar/cage
    - frame rails/braces
    - racing seats
    - turbo !!!

    • @lilgangster_savage8292
      @lilgangster_savage8292 4 года назад +3

      JW what about a tune to?

    • @Donut
      @Donut  4 года назад +55

      You are in luck, my friend

    • @randombob924
      @randombob924 4 года назад +3

      Donut Media ❤️❤️

    • @SFH_Jenkins
      @SFH_Jenkins 4 года назад +1

      Like Zach said, he will touch every part of this miata

    • @rkd350z
      @rkd350z 4 года назад +3

      I saw butterfly brace sitting in the garage on pwer steering leak episode

  • @seangray3982
    @seangray3982 4 года назад +193

    "It's about the fun you have installing it!" How's that steering rack, Zach?

  • @nooknooktyb4922
    @nooknooktyb4922 4 года назад +418

    Zach: Throws socket in the grass
    10 mil: Nooooo not again

  • @Demoralized88
    @Demoralized88 3 года назад +13

    I went with BBK Short Headers on my 2012 Mustang and they really improved daily driving enjoyment in low-mid torque. There was MAYBE some peak HP gains, but torque was noticeably improved. Plus they deepened the exhaust tone, bolted to the stock cats, and were relatively cheap. I very much doubt long-tube Headers gain much peak HP at all, and they typically kill low-mid power.

  • @TatakaiEX
    @TatakaiEX 4 года назад +2739

    as a tuner/dyno operator: if you show up to a dyno with expectations, you're going to leave disappointed LOL

    • @pedrorodriguez6998
      @pedrorodriguez6998 4 года назад +64

      Truest comment ever

    • @krishnapatel6777
      @krishnapatel6777 4 года назад +49

      This is kinda dumb but I had a quick question. I wanna get into cars and stuff (I’m new and don’t have my license yet) and I was wondering how I would find/approach a good tuner in my area?

    • @TheChris1299100
      @TheChris1299100 4 года назад +118

      @@krishnapatel6777 I had some luck talking to coworkers, going to car shows, reading forums, and asking folks at performance shops. You've already done the right thing by asking here and I think more qualified people will lend their opinions!

    • @tiamarie177
      @tiamarie177 4 года назад +41

      Krishna Patel why would you be approaching a tuner if you don’t have your license😂😂

    • @Eko_Kats
      @Eko_Kats 4 года назад +5

      Yeah, last time wanted to just see how much my 30+ years old Lada 2105 buff pony remaining just to find out they don't have tech to measure old car without plug in cable

  • @AW-Luke
    @AW-Luke 4 года назад +331

    Won’t be long until Zach get a spinny turb boi on there

  • @1970HondaCL100
    @1970HondaCL100 4 года назад +792

    Zack: "They should take about half a day to install"
    Anyone who's installed headers: lol

    • @zachsteele6964
      @zachsteele6964 4 года назад +13

      Is it difficult?

    • @aids9943
      @aids9943 4 года назад +72

      emphasis on should

    • @falcon1378
      @falcon1378 4 года назад +7

      😂

    • @aygwm
      @aygwm 4 года назад +42

      It’s actually pretty easy on a Miata.

    • @thecatskitten6302
      @thecatskitten6302 4 года назад +4

      Carcaine thank god u said it bc I was going to

  • @Thefreakyfreek
    @Thefreakyfreek 4 года назад +120

    Love how big budget this channel looks and yet it still feels humble and fun not like discovery keep it up dont overdo yourself

  • @surajchanderan6946
    @surajchanderan6946 4 года назад +155

    This is literally my favourite series by donut🤘

    • @segsmacheen5616
      @segsmacheen5616 4 года назад +5

      Loving this and loved HiLow.

    • @mianriyaan2647
      @mianriyaan2647 4 года назад

      My 2 d fav after ofcoutstse the past gag podcast

    • @andrewg.1127
      @andrewg.1127 4 года назад

      This one is like my second. But I love my dude james soooo😂

  • @anthonidanowski9404
    @anthonidanowski9404 3 года назад +923

    the factory manifold looks to be just about as good of a design as the aftermarket. id like to see a similar test on a typical cast log manifold vs a 4-2-1 and 4-1 on the same vehicle.

    • @zackzittel7683
      @zackzittel7683 3 года назад +16

      For this vehicle. Some respond better to bolt ons like the K20 especially the k24…

    • @tommyboubou
      @tommyboubou 3 года назад +7

      @@zackzittel7683 k20 with header is like 20hp

    • @zackzittel7683
      @zackzittel7683 3 года назад +7

      @@tommyboubou that’s still better 🤷🏼‍♀️ I did a Type S oil pump, k20a cams, 50 degree cam gear, RBC IM, Type S TB, ktuned big tube header, 3” intake and 3” exhaust on my K24a2 swapped civic………. And it wasn’t worth the money. Lol. It was like $1500 before the retune. Only netted like 40hp.

    • @dillonmessamore8980
      @dillonmessamore8980 3 года назад +52

      @@zackzittel7683 from 220 to 260 HP is a pretty sick gain from just bolt ons my dude. Most cars wont even make 20.

    • @zackzittel7683
      @zackzittel7683 3 года назад +21

      @@dillonmessamore8980 idk if cams, balanced oil pump, and 50 degree vtc gear are bolt ons since you have to open the engine to do them… but it’s still not terrible. A turbo woulda been more cost effective IMO. And the oil pump/cams vtc combo allows you to get approx 900 more rpm up too which increases hp by default.

  • @Tampa_tom
    @Tampa_tom Год назад +1

    ❤️ seeing the bikes in the background. I’m a Yamaha fan boy but I’ve owned some ninjas too. My buddy had a Honda stunt bike that he tried to destroy daily and it just kept ripping wheels after getting thrown to the ground over and over at stunt practice

  • @Polarity7729
    @Polarity7729 4 года назад +175

    "Now that we got it nice and hot, lets go touch it!" Literally made me LOL

  • @SirBoops
    @SirBoops 4 года назад +369

    Next ep: Are turbos worth it?
    After that: Swapping your engine the cheap way

  • @tristan640
    @tristan640 4 года назад +197

    Saw this come up, immediately switched to it

  • @SophiaAphrodite
    @SophiaAphrodite 2 года назад +1

    I am building a v8 ranger where space is a premium. I thought of shorty headers but I am putting mildly ported GT40p heads on and the factory explorer headers showed to work as well as the shorty's in that 300-400 HP range. Saved me a ton of money.

  • @abelgeorge4953
    @abelgeorge4953 4 года назад +187

    I really wish science garage came back... That's what brought me to this channel

    • @kevenalfonso7574
      @kevenalfonso7574 4 года назад +10

      Thats what brought me to the channel too 👌🏼

    • @JB-ru2zb
      @JB-ru2zb 4 года назад +16

      I miss Bart

    • @ciinyk_4435
      @ciinyk_4435 4 года назад +6

      Same. I saw science garage on snapchat and got hooked.

    • @immaliveforever1474
      @immaliveforever1474 4 года назад +9

      Facts. It was actually cool getting a breakdown on parts and how they work

    • @Chevycamaro-rg6sd
      @Chevycamaro-rg6sd 4 года назад +3

      I’m not sure what video I saw first but I think it was science garage

  • @Dayashii
    @Dayashii 4 года назад +471

    As bladed angel once said:
    They may not give me as much preformance, but now my corvette sounds like a Ferrari

    • @eladiomarquez
      @eladiomarquez 4 года назад +5

      @Prodigy yes

    • @eyemastervideo
      @eyemastervideo 4 года назад +12

      While I appreciate this as jest, the reality is you'd have to change the crank shaft to make it sound like a ferrari. :)

    • @Dayashii
      @Dayashii 4 года назад +2

      Christian A you’ve seen Leone right?

    • @eladiomarquez
      @eladiomarquez 4 года назад +6

      @@eyemastervideo but he made it sound like a ferrari with just headers

    • @fartglock8551
      @fartglock8551 4 года назад +5

      @@eyemastervideo watch the video dude! Bladed's set up is mental. Equal length headers make a lot of difference!

  • @ShintekBeats
    @ShintekBeats 4 года назад +3112

    If it added 0 hp and increased torque, it would still be worth it.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 4 года назад +91

      I definitely wouldn't put something on that causes a loss , break even but sounded better ?
      Or like you said , more tq would be nice.

    • @carswnova
      @carswnova 4 года назад +14

      Heck yeah!!

    • @kirbstomp8041
      @kirbstomp8041 4 года назад +125

      HP = Torque X RPMs / 5252 sooo............

    • @confuse9
      @confuse9 4 года назад +114

      Technically, if you increase torque you must increase horsepower.... just not peak hp.

    • @weaksrt4
      @weaksrt4 4 года назад +35

      @@confuse9 AKA power under or over the curve. Which was mentioned in the video.

  • @charlesdavis3923
    @charlesdavis3923 3 года назад +2

    Got a set of shorty headers on my 04 tahoe, installed a cold air intake along with the headers and I can't tell that it made any difference performance wise but I never had it on a dyno either. For 185 bucks though, I'd say the headers were well worth it in my opinion. The 3/8 flanges looked really good and the welds are as good as anything I could do with a tig welder on my best day.

  • @gonzalocastillo3945
    @gonzalocastillo3945 4 года назад +470

    zack: * wants more powa *
    Next episode: * how to LS swap your miata *

    • @pruviu3577
      @pruviu3577 4 года назад +4

      I saw one before with a LS engine and it sounds, looks sick

    • @skyforgedgaming
      @skyforgedgaming 4 года назад

      My friends in my car team did this last

    • @dan_6915
      @dan_6915 4 года назад +6

      A uk dude installed a jaguar 3.0l v6 engine.
      Sick ride he create.

    • @MiGujack3
      @MiGujack3 4 года назад +2

      @@dan_6915 Yeah, there was also a V12 one in the works just for the lolz
      Honestly the best swap is a modern V6 or a turbo K series. LS is like doing a budget Dodge Viper, which is fine, but I would like to keep the good handling.

    • @samuelgray1487
      @samuelgray1487 4 года назад

      @@MiGujack3 aluminium block ls engines don't weigh much more than a b6 (original mx5 engine.)

  • @meman24
    @meman24 4 года назад +131

    "It's not about the buffness of the horses, but the size of their hearts." - The 4 Horses That Could, by J.K Simpin

  • @repbegger5558
    @repbegger5558 4 года назад +92

    Do an aftermarket ECU episode people always claim you need a retune to make intake and exhaust mods work!

    • @strongenough6676
      @strongenough6676 4 года назад

      rep'd

    • @frigglebiscuit7484
      @frigglebiscuit7484 4 года назад +12

      as a guy who works with carbs and manual distributor timing, you do. that timing could probably be advanced and make even more hp. stock timing on most older cars is retarded waaaay back. some adjustable cam gears to advance the stock cam about 4 degrees would help too.

    • @leebrooks7467
      @leebrooks7467 4 года назад

      You need a new tune without it ( fuel injection of course) your car would not run well

    • @joshcallaghan9432
      @joshcallaghan9432 4 года назад +1

      doesn't this prove it though? all these shiny parts and almost xero gain over stock power. Of course it needs a tune.

  • @miteshaswani7983
    @miteshaswani7983 2 года назад +1

    The only channel where I will listen to sponsor endorsements.

  • @rickhayner2514
    @rickhayner2514 3 года назад +124

    In my opinion you could tell by the looks of the stock Mazda exhaust header that the after market header was not going to give you much more power. Replacing a stock cast iron header is one thing but the stock Mazda header was a tube header and looked pretty sweet.

  • @meinwarcrafttagebuch5142
    @meinwarcrafttagebuch5142 4 года назад +160

    honestly, the Miata header is fairly well made for a factory engine, the moment I saw it it was quite clear that you would not gain much, but as you said it is a quick and cheap upgrade that looks super nice and adds a little bit, so why not? I think you made a good decision.

    • @keithwiebe1787
      @keithwiebe1787 4 года назад +2

      Only if the flange is really thick and you don't get exhaust leaks.

    • @eniklisnihm4565
      @eniklisnihm4565 4 года назад +2

      @Darth Giggity Had leaks for years on my 1967 pontiac, took it in to old timer guy, he planed the head and the header, and used no gasket, been on there for 22 years now and not leaked! So I'm going with thick flanges.

    • @GhostScout42
      @GhostScout42 4 года назад

      Thanks, I came here to say this, but I knew someone would have already pointed it out.
      Now my ford 390 which has a rectangular manifold on each side will absolutely get.... dang ol ten horsepower for sure with headers.

    • @michaeltrosenfeld
      @michaeltrosenfeld 4 года назад

      The stock header looked REALLY good. The headers also replaced the midpipe so he now is running catless. I'm not sure the headers themselves did a thing.

    • @jedadiahtucker2132
      @jedadiahtucker2132 4 года назад

      was going to say the same thing mazda forked him on that one, the stock manifold looked pretty well set up.

  • @peterrobinson7803
    @peterrobinson7803 4 года назад +217

    Gotta admit, the factory Mazda header looked pretty close to the new one. Maybe if you started out with the old style cast iron log, you gain a lot more.

    • @loverboiipluttoofficial
      @loverboiipluttoofficial 3 года назад +4

      yea i had a cast and once i got new headers gained about 11hp, not expecting that much of a difference lmaoo

    • @raydemarco427
      @raydemarco427 2 года назад +4

      That’s what I was thinking. Plus he also has stock heads and stock intake right? I figure you can only gain so much here with this configuration

    • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
      @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 2 года назад +1

      Headers are better than the iron log just for a weight savings advantage..

  • @z9ninda6ix
    @z9ninda6ix Месяц назад +1

    10:23 I love how he stops praying by the 3 pass. Looking like a disappointed parent 🤣🤣🤣😭😭

  • @bawkray
    @bawkray 4 года назад +353

    50% of comments: that old header was good
    other 50%: when you gonna boost it?!?

  • @CJTAMBER
    @CJTAMBER 4 года назад +1298

    I could feel the pain when he found it out it wasn’t making 115 :(

    • @joeymilevoj3134
      @joeymilevoj3134 3 года назад +30

      I’m new to cars, does he have to tune the car after upgrading a part? Such as the header

    • @demitriuswhite3191
      @demitriuswhite3191 3 года назад +20

      @@joeymilevoj3134 yes

    • @joeymilevoj3134
      @joeymilevoj3134 3 года назад +9

      @@demitriuswhite3191 why didn’t he show him tuning it in the video?

    • @boneclubceo4531
      @boneclubceo4531 3 года назад +47

      @@joeymilevoj3134 very lengthy and boring process

    • @adri1leusha
      @adri1leusha 3 года назад +7

      I was expecting 130, I though this was a 1.8L

  • @DefaultGamer101yt
    @DefaultGamer101yt 4 года назад +499

    By the end of this series this miata is gonna be pushing 1000HP

    • @Felix-Mueller
      @Felix-Mueller 4 года назад +134

      *110HP

    • @whorheatoh
      @whorheatoh 4 года назад +14

      Why, are they planning on crashing it against a Supra?

    • @pandaguzman664
      @pandaguzman664 4 года назад +1

      210 hp

    • @KalebKronic
      @KalebKronic 4 года назад +19

      Gonna be a long series gaining 4 hrsprs an episode.

    • @edmundrbx6546
      @edmundrbx6546 4 года назад +2

      What Miata’s only 100hp +?? I though it is faster than my stock ek9

  • @TylerYoungMusic
    @TylerYoungMusic 2 года назад

    I love finding old videos that I didn't need at the time. But can now look back and reference. Thanks guys!

  • @MacMalcyMac
    @MacMalcyMac 4 года назад +138

    "One of the quickest and easiest ways..."
    How many times have we heard this statement now hahaha
    I love his optimism after all he has done so far, he should have dome this to start with tbh so we get a real before and after image.

    • @cleonituk
      @cleonituk 4 года назад +3

      I had a mustang gt, to put long tube headers on that car would take at least 10 to 12 hours install time. Definitely not an easy task.

    • @TerribleUsernameAmirite
      @TerribleUsernameAmirite 4 года назад +3

      @@cleonituk Well... that is technically half a day, soooo... lmao

    • @kingofnines213
      @kingofnines213 4 года назад +1

      @@TerribleUsernameAmirite I'm guessing he meant a half of a work day (~4 hrs) It took me about that long to do the long tubes on my genesis.

    • @KentRodgman
      @KentRodgman 4 года назад +1

      I thought for sure as he was shit talking how easy the install was going to be they weren't going to fit for some reason. That's how all my projects go anyway. haha

  • @Dudeman9339
    @Dudeman9339 3 года назад +618

    The MOST important thing to do when you change the airflow of any vehicle is to TUNE IT. Just adding headers, exhaust, and intake arent really going to gain you anything without a tune.

    • @benwilliams3539
      @benwilliams3539 2 года назад +109

      Yep. You may be getting more air in but not much point without telling the engine it can now also spray in more fuel aswel

    • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
      @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 2 года назад +58

      Depends on the year and complexity of the ECU as well. Older setups can make gains without fine tuning, but youll allways make the most of what you do with a little fiddling.

    • @wolfbloodchain
      @wolfbloodchain 2 года назад +9

      Yep agreed. The Miata has a new engine map and will need to be tuned to reflect that

    • @jerrodriley4290
      @jerrodriley4290 2 года назад +35

      Nah, maf and o2 sensors will adapt. The header just straight up didnt make any power.

    • @elijahjames5308
      @elijahjames5308 2 года назад +6

      They did need to tune the car because the header & the intake were changed from the factory configuration. They really should have put a real CAI on. If they tuned the car with that setup, it would have probably gained 5-7 hp realistically.

  • @LandonRoy-cv9rt
    @LandonRoy-cv9rt 4 года назад +77

    That’s one of the smoothest looking “mid-length” exhaust manifold I’ve seen on a stock engine

    • @michaelclark3192
      @michaelclark3192 4 года назад +6

      That's probably why he didn't gain much, stock headers are quite good. The headers on my Honda Jazz(Fit) were like this but going aftermarket with larger diameter pipes that matched the port size of the head gave me more mid range torque which was noticeable.

    • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
      @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 4 года назад

      Yeah, probably not a good example. That factory part actually looked an OK design (unlike the cast iron and usually square factory extractors of my youth.)

    • @Nub00005
      @Nub00005 4 года назад +2

      Check out the factory headers on the 2ZZ-GE Toyota motor, they were so good that 90% of the after market headers for that motor actually robbed you of horsepower.

    • @agoradacerto
      @agoradacerto 4 года назад

      Yes. I think they didn't get it much better than this, since the original was already very good designed

  • @joshuavisser8022
    @joshuavisser8022 2 года назад +4

    I also swear I didn't cheat 3.5-4 ponies was not bad. It's an improvement overall and simply just taking the time to put some love in your ride is good enough for me. It would have been neat to see a full stock exhaust vs the catback system and header. Plus there's always the option of a hi-flow cat as well.

  • @youtubeusername1489
    @youtubeusername1489 4 года назад +41

    5:37 "I love it when a plan comes together" *flashbacks to last episode about powersteering*

    • @jorgeantonini201
      @jorgeantonini201 4 года назад

      I like how nobody nor zack has mentioned the steering rack he didn’t fix in the last video. So according to that he’s just running waterfall of ps fluid for a daily now?

  • @bishopm4401
    @bishopm4401 4 года назад +76

    Don’t forget to add the weight savings from taking that heat shielding off!

    • @bcab7955
      @bcab7955 4 года назад +3

      Swapping a cast manifold for a steel collector probably saved some weight also, Job should've identified that.

    • @killerdeviant
      @killerdeviant 4 года назад +5

      Brent Cabot those didn’t look like cast iron manifolds to me, looked like a pretty decent header was factory.

    • @ryansims9331
      @ryansims9331 4 года назад

      Smaller cat as well. Depending on where its located.

    • @Robyne_u61
      @Robyne_u61 4 года назад

      Ryan Sims why would you have cats

  • @georgefenner-leitao4318
    @georgefenner-leitao4318 4 года назад +477

    Next episode: how to fix a hole in your engine block. Holy shit. Thanks for the likes guys

    • @bumblbang3012
      @bumblbang3012 4 года назад +19

      Step 1: Start looking for engine swap ideas...

    • @luket7511
      @luket7511 4 года назад +8

      Spray foam

    • @jordanbethea1
      @jordanbethea1 4 года назад +11

      Fix it with tape

    • @mgz282
      @mgz282 4 года назад +14

      Flex seal is always the answer

    • @raylazuli
      @raylazuli 4 года назад +9

      Ramen ftw

  • @therealtpain90
    @therealtpain90 3 года назад +4

    The stock manifold looked to flow pretty well honestly, if you put headers and exhaust on something like my 96 civic there would probably be pretty noticeable gains due to the horribly flowing exhaust on it 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @Mike1997nfs
    @Mike1997nfs 4 года назад +101

    I was suprised about the sound on load with headers holy shit

    • @AZestyNewt
      @AZestyNewt 4 года назад +4

      @@jzxtrd337 not entirely sure what you mean, as the sti is the one with unequal length, while the 15+ wrx has equal length headers. Hence, no subie rumble. They do make unequal length headers for the wrx now, but you lose out on some power since it is less efficient/isnt twin scroll(honestly not 100% on this part). You are correct on the headers changing exhaust by a large amount though.

  • @bobbycatgt70
    @bobbycatgt70 4 года назад +159

    I think the factory headers have a good flow so that's why you don't gain that much

    • @las3k91
      @las3k91 4 года назад +25

      I think factory intake had better flow than this Hot Air Intake :D

    • @2Str0k3
      @2Str0k3 4 года назад +17

      Would assume they've pretty much optimized the original ones for the stock engine to begin with. But i guess this could be called a success since there was no reduction in power with the new headers. Unless low end torque suffered making it worse to drive in normal conditions. I would call this plain dumb if you have to spend $400 and a half day for basically nothing, or possibly making it worse. Denying that this wasn't worth it is just human nature to make you'r self feel a little less of a fool.

    • @eriv4735
      @eriv4735 4 года назад +6

      More usable mid range power and a higher rev..it’s not all about peak hp numbers kiddo..proof positive as to how learning how to read a dyno graph would be very beneficial 😂

    • @Moksii_
      @Moksii_ 4 года назад +4

      this is true, however if you take the e46 330i, those headers are stamped steel and are horibly restrictive. headers see a claimed 25 hp increase.

    • @thomasamundsen3519
      @thomasamundsen3519 4 года назад +4

      Yeah how much power you gain with headers heavily depends on the stock manifold

  • @Locus27
    @Locus27 3 года назад +113

    I love the 240 in its natural habitat, on jack stands, in the background

  • @jbonet4750
    @jbonet4750 2 года назад

    Don't know about the HRSPER's, but yes, a difference maker. No mod is really stand alone unless you are talking pro-charger or turbo. I put a MPT tune on my Mustang, nice bump....I then added a CAR and larger throttle body, again nice bump. I pulled my intake manifolds and port matched them, another nice bump. I added hotter spark plugs and coil packs...not much change....the last bolt on piece was the shorty headers....like the rug, it really pulled the room together! All of the increased intake, and hotter spark....needed the less restrictive exhaust.

  • @insidebyte8561
    @insidebyte8561 4 года назад +131

    The engine needs tuning for the header, intake and exhaust

    • @jagger2001
      @jagger2001 4 года назад +3

      That's what I was thinking! Maybe next video?

    • @johnhinz4789
      @johnhinz4789 4 года назад +3

      My thoughts exactly. Wouldn't be overly surprised if there were an extra 10-15 hrsprs hiding in there somewhere.

  • @lucasduque8289
    @lucasduque8289 3 года назад +205

    I guess changing the headers might make more of a difference in other cars. The stock ones seemed like they were pretty decent.

    • @jasonmclean5921
      @jasonmclean5921 Год назад +12

      I was thinking the exact same thing. Very nice factory exhaust manifold.

    • @RichiPuppi
      @RichiPuppi 10 месяцев назад +3

      Stock exhaust systems are designed to have zero back pressure at stock power so there really is no added performance until you are flowing more air than stock.

    • @RichiPuppi
      @RichiPuppi 10 месяцев назад

      Stock exhaust systems are designed to have zero back pressure at stock power so there really is no added performance until you are flowing more air than stock.

    • @RichiPuppi
      @RichiPuppi 10 месяцев назад

      Stock exhaust systems are designed to have zero back pressure at stock power so there really is no added performance until you are flowing more air than stock.

    • @RichiPuppi
      @RichiPuppi 10 месяцев назад

      Stock exhaust systems are designed to have zero back pressure at stock power so there really is no added performance until you are flowing more air than stock.

  • @8.4_litre_V10
    @8.4_litre_V10 4 года назад +84

    Nolan: God of glasses
    Zach: God of bang for your buck.
    James: God of MO' POWAH BABY

  • @ds78613
    @ds78613 Год назад

    Racing Beat header, Flyin' Miata full exhaust, and Flyin' Miata light flywheel made my '01 Miata want to rev SO much more. So even if it doesn't make a lot more power, freeing it up makes a world of difference.

  • @joehunsberger8721
    @joehunsberger8721 4 года назад +30

    Though I’ll never stop loving James the most, you’re by far my #2 donut follow.

  • @HumbleMechanic
    @HumbleMechanic 4 года назад +360

    AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME! You are like 3 steps ahead of my Miata. HAHA.

    • @bagelbandit6076
      @bagelbandit6076 4 года назад +3

      But how is your steering rack?

    • @HumbleMechanic
      @HumbleMechanic 4 года назад +8

      @@bagelbandit6076 its a nice rack! LOL Rack is good. FINALLY have an autocross on the schedule so we will see how she holds up. :)

    • @slingbart705
      @slingbart705 4 года назад +1

      I would call this Header swap more like 3 steps Behind. Waste of time and money for no gain, you know he probably lost some low end torque

    • @gabeshaw3721
      @gabeshaw3721 4 года назад +1

      @@slingbart705 but like low end torque is only gonna matter in first gear. When do torque and horsepower matter? When you’re using it. Therefore, after the first 1.5 seconds you’ll be in the mid to upper range and be making a mo powa babeh

    • @2ndamendmentfanboy723
      @2ndamendmentfanboy723 3 года назад

      With that motor there's no way you'll make 10hp to the wheel, maybe crank with a tune...
      Now do a cat delete!😃👍👌

  • @rodneyking4183
    @rodneyking4183 4 года назад +67

    It sounds way better with the new header and that was worth it to me. Finding a few more horses in the pen is always a bonus! Great video, good job!

  • @zJoriz
    @zJoriz Год назад

    That money pit animation remains awesome and deserves continued use, I'd say.

  • @nicholasjensen3533
    @nicholasjensen3533 4 года назад +29

    Can I just say Money pit, hi low, and up to speed are my favorite series on this channel and how I’ve learned so much about cars on this channel and watching zack pimp out The Miata and how this channel has Such a fun audience and I love all the hosts for all the different series but I do be missing Science garage and I still want an up to speed on James dad

  • @UnfiItered
    @UnfiItered 4 года назад +177

    "Should take 4 hours"
    Me in my garage on my fifth day trying to get out that last seized bolt just to strip the head.

    • @SuperSilvi1990
      @SuperSilvi1990 4 года назад +6

      You dont really need "All" of the bolts....

    • @chunkiermango7982
      @chunkiermango7982 4 года назад +13

      Cant be tight if it's a liquid

    • @MrZilla500
      @MrZilla500 4 года назад +2

      2v mustang....hell...

    • @SuperSilvi1990
      @SuperSilvi1990 4 года назад +6

      @@chunkiermango7982 warps aluminum head. "At least the bolt is out"

    • @jampacc
      @jampacc 4 года назад +4

      I laughed way too hard at this. Reminds me when I worked on my 01 Mazda protoge. Oh a transmission change should take a couple days. 6 months later 😂😑

  • @rcamacho364
    @rcamacho364 4 года назад +215

    Those stock headers were pretty nice. I knew they wouldn't make much more

    • @QnRyche
      @QnRyche 2 года назад +5

      Stock header? You mean exhaust manifold

    • @marcusfreeman2512
      @marcusfreeman2512 2 года назад +41

      @@QnRyche No. The stock one was already a header, not a manifold. It may not have been tuned to scavenge as well as the aftermarket one, but it was a header. Just look at it.

  • @TheFRiNgEguitars
    @TheFRiNgEguitars 11 месяцев назад

    This is a win! Peak horsepower looks good on paper and it is real. On a pull through the gears, how long do you see peak hp? The better target for street performance is increased torque thru the power band, and MORE pull through the gears. Improved torque also translates to sharper throttle response, for a more exciting driving experience. Peak hp works for racing with tight gears, and running there in a race, but on the street, not as effective... you'll be slower.

  • @bign3ck
    @bign3ck 4 года назад +865

    Sacrificing low end and mid range for top end torque means the car is, slower on the road for 90% of situations.

    • @mariano7717
      @mariano7717 4 года назад +212

      I'm gonna quote Ken Miles in Ford vs Ferrari film "You have to drive her like a sport car. If you drive her like a school teacher, she'll clog up"

    • @poisonpotato1
      @poisonpotato1 4 года назад +41

      Or it means you get to rev higher and press the pedal harder for more situations

    • @mariano7717
      @mariano7717 4 года назад +38

      @Green Giant Oh man I needed to look for it but, magnificent:
      "For those who haven't heard of this, the idea of the Italian tune up is to run your engine under full throttle and full load for an extended period. The claim is that it burns out deposits in the combustion chamber, the injectors and the exhaust system. The name comes from Ferrari, whose mechanics took customer cars out onto the racetrack for a few hot laps at the end of which, the cars reportedly performed better"

    • @oakkblackbird
      @oakkblackbird 4 года назад +15

      bign3ck He said he gained mid and upper range torque. Low end torque loss mostly affects the motor if you are smashing the car from the get-go. Just rev the motor higher in 1st. Casual driving shouldn't be affected.

    • @charlieodom9107
      @charlieodom9107 4 года назад +7

      And this is why he is a complete dumbass, unless he drives his car around at redline all day!
      It also appears as though he has removed one catalytic converter, but I can't be sure.

  • @gbmgaming
    @gbmgaming 4 года назад +58

    I love how whenever Zack works on the miata his S14 looks really pissed off at him.

  • @razortreadway
    @razortreadway 4 года назад +169

    Did you tune it? I feel like changing hardware without a tune is almost pointless

    • @FrontalWaterbed
      @FrontalWaterbed 4 года назад +15

      i think it's OBD1

    • @C888Jesus888J
      @C888Jesus888J 4 года назад +42

      I was thinking the same thing. Maybe that's the next episode "Is tuning your car worth it?"

    • @samuelgray1487
      @samuelgray1487 4 года назад +14

      You can't tune the standard mazda ecus.

    • @nicolasvelasquez4365
      @nicolasvelasquez4365 4 года назад +32

      Megasquirt is the answer, doesnt look lien they tuned it. I'm sure the next 10 ponies are hiding there

    • @arthurwalker-trivett7808
      @arthurwalker-trivett7808 4 года назад +12

      You don't have to tune it to get gains but they will be small and a tune will compound them. I would say the intake and the rest of the exhaust has already helped a bit. I would say starting stock at 100hp at the hubs and now 107hp is a good gain from better flow with no tune

  • @THEUrinalCake
    @THEUrinalCake 2 года назад

    Headers sounding better is all you need to justify them but the look in the engine bay is definitely another plus. Any gains are just the icing on the cake.

  • @boostjunkie2320
    @boostjunkie2320 2 года назад +29

    zit depends on what you are driving and what you are expecting....I was happy I did it with my old 99 TL 3.2 V6 Vtec. it sounded great and I also had an Ebay air intake with a k&n filter. OEM style cat, 2" resonator then Y piped to a 2.25" straight pipes to rear bumper with chrome tips. Give it better response a better mid to high rpm power and I was really glad I did it. I should do a j swap civic or integra

    • @PXRTYPXN444
      @PXRTYPXN444 Год назад

      Should I swap the headers on my ‘14 v6? It’s stock but handles everything I throw at it perfectly. Only thing I can’t do is beat supercars 😢

    • @boostjunkie2320
      @boostjunkie2320 Год назад +1

      @@PXRTYPXN444 I would recommend it on the V6. it sounds great and the gains are fun

    • @PXRTYPXN444
      @PXRTYPXN444 Год назад

      @@boostjunkie2320 bettt and what will I need to tune the car so I can run them?

    • @boostjunkie2320
      @boostjunkie2320 Год назад +1

      @@PXRTYPXN444 You don't need a tune to run them unless you are running FBO and looking for max power

    • @PXRTYPXN444
      @PXRTYPXN444 Год назад

      @@boostjunkie2320 ohh Igu thanks 🙏

  • @larryimhoff8411
    @larryimhoff8411 4 года назад +54

    Do a stand alone ECU for the Miata! Like a Mega Squirt

    • @BobMarley-un5fi
      @BobMarley-un5fi 4 года назад

      I second this motion

    • @gtachorley
      @gtachorley 4 года назад

      Kinda pointless without a turbo or throttle bodies

  • @surajdave545
    @surajdave545 4 года назад +272

    I know theyre youre sponsor, but as someone who appreciates cars and watches. I have to say Vincero is trash. You can buy the exact same watch on AliExpress for a couple bucks. All they do is slap their label on it and charge over 100 bucks for it. Just tryna save yall from a bad purchase. Love the content keep it up!

    • @nickfury5587
      @nickfury5587 4 года назад +25

      Thank you cus I was lowkey looking at it

    • @cjones7854
      @cjones7854 4 года назад +39

      Want a cool cheapish watch? Seiko 5, mine got me hooked on watches.

    • @proactive_studio
      @proactive_studio 4 года назад +13

      Yes, id say get an automatic watch from a reputable brand like Seiko, that's actually worth the money

    • @SniperBlitz2234
      @SniperBlitz2234 4 года назад +23

      Yup, Vincero is just a company that sources cheap parts and up sells a $20 grocery store watch for more than $100 bucks. Any watch in the $100+ range should be a proper automatic or at least a very good quartz. Skip the chinese crap bc Seiko/Orient or Citizen make good entry level mechanical watches for $100.

    • @tsurutuneado5981
      @tsurutuneado5981 4 года назад +40

      Things heating up in the watches community

  • @Moyle3
    @Moyle3 3 года назад +62

    I think it’s worth it! Little things like that with other mods will add up together and yah the look, sound and experience is also worth it!

  • @hugosalazar7617
    @hugosalazar7617 Год назад

    I put short tube headers on my 2007 Cadillac Escalade 6.2l I gained 3 horse power and 5 lbs of torque. Not to mention I also have a afe air intake system that I installed before the headers that added 2 horse power and 3 lbs of torque. It really all depends on what you want to consider if it’s worth it. Mines a daily driver and pulls the 7k lbs boat on the weekends. So that little gain I got from those 2 installs really helped with the low end torque and the acceleration and at the gas pump. It’s a struggle keeping the 6k beast fuel efficient.

  • @mangvue824
    @mangvue824 4 года назад +71

    "We gotta turbo this thing."
    You going team hi or team low set up?

  • @tarsan894
    @tarsan894 4 года назад +15

    I love how every modification I wanna do to my miata is being done on this channel ❤️👌

  • @PJSinohin
    @PJSinohin 4 года назад +175

    "you just have to justify the costs.." every time

  • @kickballjedi
    @kickballjedi 7 месяцев назад

    Great video. I'm going to replace my headers with shorties because the originals are all rusted out anyway. Glad to know it will give a little hp. My fav part of the video is the "The Thing" music playing in the background.