What the HELL is Anna O'Brien Talking About??
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"Because I don't have any fat on my hands or my feet..."
👁👄👁 *GORL*
Yeah that’s crazy. Lipedema, I thought, was typically around the hips and legs. She’s fat everywhere, hands, feet, face and neck. That’s how I’m sure she is wrong when she claims she only has lipedema left to lose.
But also they’re sooo congested on Herbst’s scan showing they have lipedema??? Make it make sense😫
@housemmr "I don't have any burnable fat, it's all lipodema" lives rent free in my head forever
She is becoming the most fascinating case study in gorl world! A 500lb woman who thinks her being fat is a medical mystery is actually hysterical 😂
48:48 When the doctor says "how does it feel, knowing that your whole life, all of these struggles have been related to a genetic condition. Something that you literally cannot control and had nothing to do with the lifestyle choice" I lost all my faith in humanity
Well... I think her genes make her prone to weight gain but I hate that she pretends that means lifestyle choices have no affect whatsoever
@Thewrongshoesotherchannel I'm not sure if any gene can make someone gain a substantial amount or atleast unhealthy amount of weight. I see it as more of a behaviours thing to be honest.
@@ethanoneill1915genetics can drive behavior also, not to say you shouldnt recognize and try to fight it. I saw an interesting seminar in grad school about an obese mouse strain that even when forced to lose weight did not live longer. Thats not a catch all study vecause there can be so many gene variants affecting obesity but everything is so complicated. Ive just learned to accept people trying their best cuz life can be unfair in the cards it deals and you could have shit you just have to contend with that is known to get worse as time passes. (Saying as a type 1 diabetic.) We gotta try to not throw the cards out the window or flip the table, and try to play our best game while laughing heartily at ourselves without letting it too overly seriously consuming you. But if Im sitting there and someone's got the shittiest UNO hand I'm not gonna rage at them so much if their game just keeps going shittily, because well, you got to and can only do so much with a shitty hand and pray your luck changes while you're trying to change it yourself...
@@nashiPAGE good point 👍 and yes of course we keep going, keep trying to improve regardless of the hand were given 💯
She has said multiple times she doesn't want kids and that she dislikes kids. Her adding that part at the end about not being able to have kids because she'll pass on her genetic problems and making it sound like it's a giant blow to her and it's so sad was very suspect. Either she's lying about disliking/not wanting kids or she's lying here. Personally, I think she added that end part because it was something else she could victimize herself over and gain sympathy with. It felt really weird, like a purposeful manipulation to garner attention.
I would agree with you - there feels like there is something else here other than E followed by the letter D.
I feel like the kids part is one of those even if you don't want them, it's nice to know that it's a choice and not because you can't. The choice being taken away is sad
I agree she's retconning her previously saying she didn't want kids & doesn't like them.
Of course she doesn't like kids; she is an oversized child herself. Children take priority and need to be the sole focus of your attention. Anna is so self-important, she can't handle anyone or anything receiving more attention than her.
@@palesarox13there's no indications the genes affect her fertility at all and it sounds like there isn't much evidence of what these genes may or may not cause. It doesn't even sound like any of her doctors advised her not to have kids. I'm not sure we can say the choice to have kids was taken away from her - that seems a bit much
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Anna is waaaaay more in denial than I ever realized 😲
Yeah she is deeeeepppp in denial. Its sad, but also fascinating.
The relevant takeaway from Colin Mockery's 3-hour documentary on lipedema and his subsequent interview with a prominent doctor who treats lipedema in Europe is that liposuction should not be done to treat lipedema BEFORE obesity is resolved. If it is done on obese patients, they will re-gain fat in other places (like the abdomen and odd places that give them weird looking lumps on their body). This is the international consensus among doctors who treat lipedema.
In the US, a small group of doctors WHO JUST SO HAPPEN to make a lot of money on liposuction and other lipedema treatments on people who are still obese, managed to dominate the standard of care in the US. The international group vocally disagrees with this standard.
Other points:
- As far as I've seen, none of Anna's critics have claimed that lipedema is a fake disease or that she doesn't have it. Maybe there are some, but at the very least Colin doesn't say either of those things, and we know she's seen Colin's video because she got very defensive about it immediately afterward. So she's dishonestly straw-manning her critics and avoiding the real issue. Meanwhile, she already did re-gain fat in other places, so looks like the international consensus is correct.
- Her BS about bagelgate is next level. I don't care that she cries or has a meltdown, even over a bagel. But SHE CHOSE to record a video of a total emotional breakdown which she said was about not getting the right bagel and posted it on the internet. WHY? I suspect that she thought it made her relatable. It does not. There were quite a few ways she could have done it if she absolutely had to make content about not getting the right bagel. She could have had her emotional breakdown in her hotel room and then made a lighter video saying something like "OMG, when I got back after all that, I had been given the wrong bagel! Can you believe it? I was so distressed about the surgery and being exhausted that I burst into tears when I discovered it. [laugh] What a world." You know? Demonstrate some self-awareness and balance. But she always goes so histrionic AND thinks that this makes her more interesting or relatable. Just anything to be the center of attention.
- The doc on that podcast should lose her license IMO. Colin doesn't even have a medical degree, but he did a better, more comprehensive and fair examination of both sides of those medical issues than she did when she's putting herself out to the public as an expert (while he most emphatically is not). It's reprehensible behavior that does real harm to her audience, including Anna.
@@Cat_Woods I’m really glad to see this take on Bagelgate (dear lord I can’t believe I just typed that sentence LOL).
I’ve always thought she faked those wrong-bagel tears. I think it’s exactly as you say-she just wanted people to feel sorry for Poor Anna who jUsT wOrKs So HaRd Ya’Ll and dOeS eVerYtHiNg RiGhT and can’t catch a break! And it backfired on her. Because she thought people would relate to her disappointment at getting the wrong takeaway order? Which we might have if she hadn’t been such a B followed by the letter I followed by the letter T followed by the letter C followed be the letter H about the dancing kids and the cotton candy vendors and the target employees and and and…..
She ABSOLUTELY thinks her bagel tantrum was soOOOOooOoOoO relatable, you guys. She STILL thinks people find it relatable, that's why she's bringing it up again! She has no idea how deranged she looks, and like Alex said, how deeply disordered her behavior is.
@@imjustjk Seriously!!!! “Bagelgate” would NOT have been a thing if she realized it was ridiculous to cry about a bagel and recognized it was the accumulation of other stressors. I’m sure most people have had a moment where something super insignificant goes wrong and it unleashes the flood gates after dealing with a bunch of other crap.
One time I straight up sobbed after I realized my Instacart shopper got me the wrong pudding cups. I KNEW I was overreacting, but I had been really sick for a week and I really wanted that pudding 😂. If she had framed it like that, no one would care, but she is incapable of self awareness or self reflection.
My take away from the bagelgate vlog was nothing to do with the bagel and everything to do with her being mean and demanding. The way she mocked those children really changed my mind about her. I thought she was a nice person at that point bc I hadn’t seen much about her other than the weight related things. Made me realise there is more going on here
@@EmptyTheTanks Does fit with the histrionic feature of her character. She can't bear for someone else to be the center of attention, so her nasty side comes out when other people, even kids, are getting attention.
45:01 ok, actual biologist here. I can see how problems with apoptosis could cause fibrosis and inflammation. But not the weight gain. She seems to think that it means that her dead cells never leave her body. That’s not how it works. It just means that the process of shutting down and recycling the parts of dead cells isn’t well coordinated. So some things might be building up in the body, but *most* of the cell is still going away.
I am a biologist too, and I really wish Anna would give a little more info on this, even if she doesn't understand it. Like, what exactly has she been told? And - maybe it's too personal - but what are these gene variants? Maybe that's too personal to share, but she says she's trying to help educate people.
@@lisaw8619chemist here & I agree. I find it strange she can even be confident the genes are linked to apoptosis in humans and are causing lipedema and obesity when she is simultaneously saying the genes are poorly studied and not well understood. like what are we working with here, a single study of knockout mice?
@@lisaw8619she will share it as a shield.
You can’t produce 50+ lbs of excess scar tissue if you don’t eat 175,000+ calories in excess of what you need to maintain your weight.
@@myt110 I was like WTF.
Yes, Colin Mockery’s video on Lipedema could have earned him a PhD. So good. - also, if someone does not track their calories for weeks and PROVE they’ve tried a calorie deficit, I just cannot give any weight to this AT ALL.
Amazing that not one doctor along her journey told her that an excess of normal fat cells ENCOURAGES the growth of fibrous fat cells (Lipedema). Treatment includes losing weight through diet (and exercise, but no one can out run a bad diet. Weight loss starts in the kitchen, something Anna in ep 1 didn’t address and just talked about how much she “ran 3 miles every day” - another red flag) for this reason.
My guess is that she was told that, but doctor shopped until she found one that told her what she wanted to hear.
@@joannamarieartI actually doubt she even had to shop around. There are a lot of doctors in the US that tell patients what they want to hear automatically, a bad review can really hurt their practice. Not to mention the obesity patient advocates (yes, a real thing) training doctors behind the scenes that fatness basically doesn’t cause health issues. Plus doctors generally don’t like calling patients out on their lies, so if she says she isn’t eating enough to gain weight then they have to believe her.
I really appreciate hearing your perspective. I grew up in a family where the truth was flexible, based on the desires of my parents. As a result, I have a knee-jerk reaction to the slightest whiff of manipulation and I get frustrated with Anna because I feel like she’s always trying to control her audience’s perception of reality. When you explain it, it makes sense and I have a lot more compassion for her.
The main reason I don’t believe her is because of how she keeps saying “magically” to describe treatments for her issues. She said it like four times in this podcast. No one who has put in the work talks like that.
I don’t tend to comment a lot, but I just wanted to say first and foremost how much I appreciate your insight into “all things fat related”. You have a very logical, dispassionate (in the exactly right way) understanding of E followed by the letter Ds, and your assertion that toxic rituals are not addictions but more like OCD. I’ve always been bothered by how EDs are treated (badly) by professionals because it always seems so odd to attribute the behaviours to addiction. It’s just never fit for me. Your logical approach makes so much more sense and I wish professionals would adopt it in treatment plans.
I’m also really glad you’re covering this podcast in particular. I’ve watched a few channels react to it, but no one else has talked about it the way you have, and I really like hearing your thoughts, including and especially your own candor about your personal experience.
I’ve been a longtime watcher of your channel but mostly lurk here, but I just wanted to thank you for your work on this channel. I know it can’t always have been easy, but I think a lot of people really appreciate it. I know I do. Thank you.
Everything this comment says x2
it's interesting how she won't say for example "my genetic condition makes me more likely to overeat" or "my genetic condition means that when I overeat, I grow painful fat cells" or whatever. it's just: my genetic condition completely determined my body shape regardless of all else, and I could not have made one single better choice to have helped my condition whatsoever. very telling
"I can do hard things" is literally something that they tell kindergarteners
and the hard thing was.......ordering a bagel........
It is funny she says that when we can see she CANT do hard things.
This entire lipedema arc is because she cannot do the hard thing of changing her diet and addressing her food issues.
9:13 colin mockery’s lipodema manifesto 😂
I think everyone believes she has lipodema, the issues people take is that a) she is spreading medical misinformation about it and b) there are several indicators that she is financially profiting off of these surgeries
I'm just wondering why the cohost is even here... I've hardly heard her say 2 words together and it's been 90% Anna talking talking talking
This is Anna’s podcast and everyone else is just along for the ride so best stay quiet! 🫠🥴
I have a feeling she’s gonna last maybe three episodes and bow out. She needs to be the centre of attention and I can’t see how she would be in any story other than her own.
@@imjustjk Yeah I agree. IDK how she could even get through 5 minutes of a podcast if she isn't talking nonstop, and her own issues are the only ones she has anything to say about!
I don’t understand how she doesn’t look any different after these surgeries 🤷♀️
@@joannamarieart even when Anna had misunderstood a medical term and the doctor tried to explain it to the audience, Anna still had to “re-explain” it to us. “Yep, that was it!” Yeah, hon, thanks for your expert input…LOL 🤦🏻♀️😄
She just loves the sound of her own voice.
I'm confused about her saying she'd never been depressed before... wasn't she talking about how depressed she was trying to lose weight throughout her life?
I understand that liposuction is clinically classified as a “major surgery” and that suffering is relative, but as someone diagnosed with a brain tumor last September taking every treatment measure to avoid a craniotomy, Anna desperately jumping from the fitness community to chronic illness community and hanging on for dear life (anything to avoid treating her actual heath condition) really makes my blood boil.
I had a craniotomy 2 years ago for a 46mm brain tumor. I didn't whine about it. I was grateful to have it and I went from sedentary prior to the surgery to walking a 5k 3 months later (with Dr approval). I take my health very seriously now.
@ You’re amazing, I admire and aspire to your recovery. So glad you overcame
40:10 - not just lipedema... Anna is the most special unique one of a kind lipedema patient that EVER EXISTED!!! A true medical marvel! 🤪
I was just about to comment with the same thing. Every doctor tells her they have never seen whatever it is they are looking at with her.
But if she has two rare gene variants that are rare on their own and almost never seen together, then her situation is indeed rare. I hate to defend Anna, but I'm a biologist, and genes do matter. Of course everything else matters too, and she does nothing to help her situation.
@@lisaw8619I’d be very curious to know how many people have the opportunity to be given this panel. Are these genes rare or are very few obese individuals able to be tested and so it’s “rare” in a small sample size.
The thought that a woman who has a license to practice medicine is sitting there and letting her spout this incredibly dangerous monologue is truly disturbing. This will only encourage more people to go whelp it’s just my genes 🧬 not my 12 trips to McDonald’s in a week.
I like your soft voice and down to earth explanations
51:25 “i need to let go of the shame… even knowing its not my fault, i still feel like it is”
to me, this is the ROOT of her issues. she has some kind of trauma that she is not acknowledging. i have lots of compassion for her in this regard, and she should work on integrating herself. otherwise she will continue to project onto her body
Ironically, Anna’s faux retelling of BagelGate is, itself, pretty telling. The way that she seamlessly instantiates this bagel situation into her existing framework of trauma/stress/anxiety > eating is shocking for anyone who doesn’t have this disordered conceptualization of food.
She’s practically admitting that she imputes emotional value into food beyond its energy content; she gets SO CLOSE to realizing her disordered relationship with food as the crux of her weight issues, but then immediately deflects with, “oh it’s not my fault I was emotionally compromised because I had to have surgery on this condition which is totally out of my control and just happened to me out of the blue one day.”
People like Anna are so goddamn frustrating because you can see that they have all the tools and faculties they need to realize what their issue is and how to fix it, but there’s just this inner cowardice or weakness that’s preventing them from acting on what they know deep inside. Anna knows her eating is what’s causing her weight issues, but she’s just too damn psychologically weak (sorry if I sound harsh) to take the plunge and let the reality of that truth wash over her.
She's probably in denial which is a hell of a drug. Denial is common with obesity. The mental gymnastics i used to do when i was obese to forget/deny to myself that i was even fat, she reminds me of that mental gymnastics.
I’m commenting again sorry! But this “device” was an app on Karen’s phone (the quack doctor) that supposedly detected heat etc. it’s GARBAGE and makes zero sense. 39:28
I thought the bagel situation happened before her operation… the story changes and becomes more dramatic every time she tells it
She says in this it happened two days before her surgery. Which one I’m not sure. It does keep changing and getting weirder too!
She completely misses the mark on the bagel situation. She was feeling anxious about surgery & decided to be rude & weird in public & load it onto her channel. Them loaded the video w the plate of supposed free bagels to stick it to the “haterz” which it all even more akward. Great video!!
She also changing the narrative most people where mad that she was saying how she did everything for her condition, when you should try to eat as little carbohydrates with her condition
She reminds me of the South Park episode where Randy went to AA and the only thing he got out of it was it was not his fault.
I am disgusted everytime Anna cries, it is so fake and forced
I know. I’m so mean- every time she starts crying, in my head I think “cry baby cry” in the same tone that the bully from “Christmas Story” when he’s goading ralphie.
@@juliaisprobablyalreadytaken i dont know what that is but i dont blame you. I think it is quit obvious that everytime Anna cries it is calculated move to gain symphaty. At least it screams fake to me, no real emotions in that woman on film at least, i do believe she has emotions but dont show them to us, and that is part of why she is so unlikebul
@Inkeri-h7j it screams fake because it is. How do we know? Because THERE ARE NO TEARS WHEN SHE CRIES. None. Zero. A lot of carefully timed sniffles (especially on a podcast where we can’t see her) and wrought faces, but no actual tears.
That’s the tell. I don’t know if Anna realises that or not but I grew up with a phoney crier and I can spot them a mile away.
@@imjustjk yes those sniffles are the worst. It is bad acting and makes me grince so bad
35:13 sorry I’m commenting so much but ALEX! The face you’re making looks exactly like the face I know I’m making right now😂☠️
I'm glad Alex is doing a deep dive on Anna because before, when he showed sympathy for her or whatever, it made me so confused. Her way of thinking is actively harmful to herself and others, and she will die from this. I just hope she doesn't take anyone with her.
42:20 - oh my GODDDD Anna please just let her speak for 1 minute!!! good lord this is painful
The "orange peel texture" symptom's actual clinical term is the most fun to say because it's peel of an orange in French, "peau d'orange." If you have to have a terrible medical condition, you might as well get little bits of fun where you can.
I have a few different chronic pain illnesses. Yes, I can put on a happy face when in high levels of pain and pain can cause emotional dysregulation. But! Anna didn't have to walk for miles in NYC (I swear the sidewalks are harder than in other cities) to eat foods that will increase her pain. I remember craving foods that are the worst for me, even those that aren't unhealthy for the general population (hot peppers increase my pain (temporarily they can decease my pain but then will increase it higher after) and I love and miss them so much). Alex, you are spot on that she was feeling anxiety. I think Anna used food to distract herself from her pain and fear, that's why she stopped for cotton candy before she even got to the bagel shop. Anna is making the world responsible for her emotions and emotional regulation, so much so that she is willing to stop having treatment for a painful medical condition to punish the world. That is a very childish and passive-aggressive reaction.
If Anna is actually the only person these experts have ever seen, I look forward to reading the case study once it's published in a reputable journal. Until then, I won't believe it as 100% truth. And if there is never a case study published then obviously her medical professionals do not believe this is a breakthrough that the medical community needs to know about. Personally, I'm surprised it hasn't been published at this point but I guess we'll give it a few more months. If a case study had been published, yes it would have been anonymized, but Anna would have known it was about her and she would be running around showing everybody the proof.
I think EDs are similar to addictions in this manner. In addiction treatment, major mental illnesses aren't to be diagnosed until significantly into recovery where dependency and addiction behaviors are no longer happening. This is because addiction behaviors can make people act in ways that are "crazy." For example, people who over use meth will frequently have hallucinations (shadow people), that does not mean they have a long-term form of psychosis.
Never once in any of Anna's videos with doctors did I feel like those doctors viewed her as an exceptional or unusual case. Mostly I got the impression that they were just telling her what she wanted to hear and catering to her delusion because her channel provides a lot of advertising value. Also there were several times I noticed that Dr. Amron said things about her body or condition that Anna misinterpreted and recontextualized ON THE SPOT to fit the narrative she's already chosen.
@joannamarieart I really do think that Anna has some hardcore reality filters and only hears what she wants to.
The one exception to her line of bobbleheaded quacks that I can recall was thiss one (endocrine?) specialist who was originally from Eastern Europe,who was simply not having it and Dr. Now'd her with a very unambiguous take about the irigin of her ills which she of course played for ultimate victimhood and went back to the Doctor Shop.
It seems like she grabs onto the faintest traces of "well, it's possible..." and gets to work embellishing and shoehorning it into her personal narrative.
Oh wow, she‘s even trying to reframe BagelGate. I do not doubt that she has lipedema. Where she goes wrong is believing that she gained weight from „not eating“ and that liposuction will cure her.
Of course having less fat cells that are inflamed will improve the condition at first, but as long as she eats the way she does (cream cheese bagel, Starbucks, loaded Hot Dogs, masses of cheese… she‘s never shown one anti-inflammatory meal on her channel EVER) it will get worse again. This whole arc is just one more shitty diet cycle and in the end she‘ll be worse. Because she does not actually do the work she needs to do.
If i were just an uninformed listener who popped on this podcast episode because i was interested in learning about medical mysteries, i feel like i would be just as uninformed as when i started. But i would be very informed about Anna's emotions and neuroses, though.
Last comment lol - "whatever this is" it might be the Mormonism. There's some overlap between mormon and fundamentalist Christian behaviors (which I was raised in) but there are peculiarities and twists unique to Mormonism that resemble fundie Christianity but not quite. But that feeling of needing to make your life purposeful (The Purpose-Driven Life, anyone?) Vs the crushing feeling of not being able to enact that purpose feels very familiar.
52:02 Okay, yeah. This part is actually evil, just in the terms of how harmful the rhetoric is. We know exactly why people are more obese now: processed and ultra processed foods. There is direct relations between with Americans cooking less, relying on convenience foods, companies trying to make their food as delicious and irresistible to the brain as possible so people keep buying it, and obesity rising. Since the 20th century it’s been noticed. The book ‘Salt, Sugar, Fat’ by Michael Moss is a good resource to learn about this. She does say our food can be changing, but acts like it’s one of many possibilities. It’s just misleading. It’s not a mystery.
Yeah, it is so ridiculous to be like "we don't know why obesity rates are rising! It's unexplainable!" 😑😑 Basically all of what you said, the foods we are eating now are significantly worse in quality, higher in fats and sugars, very lacking in nutrients - as well as being very easy to overeat, because the lack of nutrition means convenience foods will not keep you satiated for long! People are eating more than they need and eating worse foods. Literally the simplest explanation!
@@joannamarieartYeah, I watched the Aubrey Gordon (fat activist) documentary and she has a whole segment on the evil diet industry being worth 9 billion dollars, hinting at the conspiracy to scare people about being fat and spread false information to make people diet. Meanwhile, guess how much the fast/processed food industry is worth? 900 billion, and growing every single year. She didn’t talk about that but tho!
Absolutely to food but daily activity and outdoor spaces are also being obliterated. I’m from north Texas and…yeah, you’re walking anywhere. But there’s probably a Whataburger nearby. Lack of daily activity is a HUGE contributor as well!
Over-reliance on cars as well! It is pointlessly draining when you are just sitting on the road with other people for hours at a time, doing nothing else with your body (except maybe listening to a podcast) because you don't want to be in an accident. And then by the end of it you probably don't want to stand and cook (especially if that's your job), so getting drive in food/takeout can be very appealing. And it adds up.
No way it’s caused by “our genetics changing.” There hasn’t been a population bottleneck since the time when most people were at a healthy weight
Alex you have just NAILED it with this series. Thank you for the work you’re doing and your honesty here. It’s really helped me better understand my own disorder.
I’ve thankfully also recovered from it now but I never truly understood some of the compulsive/ritualistic behaviours I had (I TOTALLY recall many bagel-gate moments for me). And I never fully accepted it as an ‘e followed by a d’.
I initially just put it down to comfort eating, a person who “has a bad metabolism” (metabolic issues totally can be a real issue but I know it wasn’t actually the issue for me) and just “unlucky”. I got well when I tracked and weighed every single thing and realised the mystery wasn’t a mystery at all -I had a problematic relationship with food.
But thanks to these videos it’s all just clicked. Such a relief to fully sit in what it all was ❤
Honestly as someone who doesnt have eating issues and that has been chronically ill my entire life, the only times ive cried in medical situations is when they won't let me eat in hospitals lmao.
She needs to show the mri and dexa scan to prove that she’s composed of 90% scar tissue and water, and not fat.
Can’t have that it would expose the lie. Get quack drs won’t do that because it’ll ruin them, it’s crazy
I appreciate your commentary so much, Alex, this is so healing in itself.
I could be completely wrong about this, so let me know if you have a definite answer. But I watched the original "Bagel Gate" video, as well as multiple people's reactions to it, and IIRC, there was a degree of ambiguity surrounding when this event took place in relation to Anna's surgeries. Like, I almost remember people trying to figure out what the timeline was. Am I crazy? Because if not, then it makes no sense for Anna to now complain that people didn't understand the connection there, that she was in a vulnerable state and stressed out about her upcoming surgery. Again, I could have missed it, but unfortunately I think the original video got deleted so perhaps we'll never know for sure.
Yes I think she deliberately obfuscated the timeline
You HAVE to watch Colin Mockery’s documentary on lipedema and follow up interview
I find it really bizarre how she totally glosses over mental health by blaming it on hormones, which sure, that can be a part of it, but it’s powerful to say, like you did, “I am experiencing anxiety”. Why the fear of admitting to that? She frames everything as a unique medical phenomenon that she has no control over.
Sooo Anna, explain your just downright disrespectful treatment of young street dancers. Pain is no excuse for your obnoxious bad behavior towards total strangers. It sure appears like your unbalanced response was triggered by people paying attention to them & not you.
It’s a small thing that says A LOT about Anna’s character in my opinion. For instance, I think Anna fails the shopping cart return test. I think she’s the type to just leave the cart wherever in the parking lot. Just based on her weirdly contemptuous attitude towards these strangers, who were also children, it just says a lot about Anna’s mindset towards mutual cooperation and respect in society. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but that’s my instinctual reading of her behavior. Disrespecting those dancing kids was callously distasteful in a way that‘s suggestive of deeper sociality issues IMHO.
11:32 holy shit she still _refuses_ to see what the problem is with her bagel video.
ETA: I said “it did though” out loud just before you said the same thing 😂 23:53
Not me crying over cracked eggs bc my dietitian made me eat those while recovering from restrictive ed 😂 her face was priceless
Anna trying to rewrite history yet again. SHE'S the one who named it bagel-gate, and she never mentioned in that video her upcoming surgery or chronic pain or any of that.
She did act incredibly entitled when she decided to wait for the cotton candy treat, when she had to wait to make a tik tok in the station, when she made fun of street performers, and so on.
The entire video was just embarrassing and she also failed to mention she ended up getting her bagel the next day!
Ugh, that video worked my last nerve, lol 😅
Highly recommend anyone here who hasn’t watched Colin’s Lipodema video does so even if you have to watch it over a few days. It is so eye opening.
Eat Less, Move More. Simple but not easy.
Wait if she thought that lipedema might not be a real condition, or if she thought she didnt really have it, but she feels guilt for promoting herself as if she had it before she had it confirmed...then why was she promoting herself as if she knew she had lipedema in the first place?! Huh, Anna?* Maybe you could avoid feeling that feeling of guilt and being fake if you...i dunno, stopped yourself from *lying* about what you didnt know about your condition!
* she wanted sympathy and views. That's probably why.
She is so frustrating because she just thinks she’s better than everyone. She can’t have eaten too much because she’s better than people who do, because she works out so much or whatever. Her and Amberlynn are similar in the sense that they believe they are medical mysteries and completely unique. The pick mes of medical practice.
Regarding EDs and other mental health issues : I think that two factors are really important 1) issues that are caused by or made worse by trauma and 2) the effect of nutricient deficiencies.
Even if she has specific genes that operate differently than most people, and even if she generates fibrosis more than average, you have to determine what will solve what is triggering that. Which in our environment very often seems to be related to the standard AMerican diet and highly processed and highly palatable food. One has to wonder if a dramatic switch to a whole food diet, cutting out all the snacks and sugar would be very beneficial. That is the one thing she doesn’t seem to have ever done, or at least committed on. She seems to want a medical or pharmaceutical fix instead of doing the work of really overhauling her diet. And I say that as someone who is still struggling with the diet changes that I believe will help my own health conditions. It’s very hard. But until you make those food changes long term I personally don’t believe that you can say you have tried everything.
Saint Anna, the sacred saint of No One Gives a Shit.
She sounds like she is ignoring her mental health, but considering where she came from it’s not surprising 🙁
You have so much insight, thank you for making these videos. Your intelligence and intuition know no bounds.
Everything she says is confusing and kind of triggering. I remember thinking there was something wrong with my genes and that I was a medical anomaly too. Cause I couldn’t lose weight and that I could have lipedema ( I still think it’s a real disease) but I don’t have it. When I told my doctor about it I was in my anxiety mind. Instead of telling them the facts. It’s a bit hard too explain. I have lost 80 lbs now and my legs are much smaller now. I can see the outline to my knee again So now I know I didn’t but I tied my anxiety to the possibility of me having it. But more than anything I’m just so glad I don’t think there’s something fundamentally wrong with me. I wouldn’t be surprised if eds are linked to other mental health disorders.
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I think she has other mental issues that caused her to remain this size . But there may be a genetic component her mom and sister had the same isdues so nature and nurture could play a role. Maybe a mental issue caused by genetics and coping method caused by seeing how her family also dealt with stress by eating.
44:00 So they know nothing about the genes except for exactly what they do.
Good to know.
My guess is that they know what little they do because they have done RNA sequencing of cells at different stages to see what genes are active at those times, and this one popped up during apoptosis. So, no idea how it interacts with anything, or what exact process it’s involved with. But they know when it turns on, and they know that Anna’s version of the gene is different from most people’s. Does that make any significant difference? Who knows. Maybe none at all, maybe a little bit, maybe huge. That part takes a lot of study to tease out, and the granting agencies prefer to put money towards things with a bigger impact.
Anna was being TOTALLY INGENUOUS in this podcast about her condition. Her lipodema can be treated if she simply followed a non-inflammatory diet. The swelling miraculously goes down, and all of a sudden, dense, hard, “fibrotic” fat becomes soft, regular fat (because the tissue in and around it is no longer swollen) and melts away with a calorie deficit. Point blank period.
Omg! How did i miss this one?!?
“Nobody would choose obesity; therefore it’s not your choice.” OK then…nobody would choose to be broke; therefore if a person takes the actions of overspending / not budgeting, resulting in them being broke, it’s not their choice? They have zero power to fix it or even marginally improve it?
Sure, there are various reasons for a situation like that, some more within a person’s control, some less. But there are many many MANY (oh so many) people with a perfectly good income who are just broke as a consequence of their own ongoing daily decisions. Yes, they don’t like the consequence - they wouldn’t choose the consequence! - but they also aren’t willing to take a hard look at their own behaviour and try to change. Because change is hard.
(I struggle with weight too. It IS hard. But my weight is a direct consequence of the average amount of calories I consume. No one is forcing me to eat those. Ultimately I am the one making those choices, and it would be so harmful and disempowering to convince myself I am helpless and can’t change my behaviours or habits at all. That belief WILL make you incapable of getting better.)
she talked about how fat acceptance harmed her at the beginning but towards the end she full on became an FA advocate talking about "morality" and "no choice" it's wild to listen
I can believe she has lipedema, but I don't believe it accounts for all the excess body fat she's carrying. From what I understand about lipedema, weightless is an important part of managing it. It feels like she put the cart before the horse and got the surgery without dealing with the weightloss and food issues first. Colin Mockery put out a follow up video where he talks with a lipedema specialist - it's very interesting even aside from Anna. While I'm sure she does have some genuine trollish comments that suck to deal with, there are a lot of people who just have questions or understandable criticism, because her stories regarding her health sound so off.
26:18 Regarding Bagelgate, Anna says that people ignored the fact that she was going to have surgery in two days and that’s why she was emotional. But we didn’t know that she was having surgery in two days. That doesn’t come up in the video at all. She posted videos out of order and hid the timeline of what was happening. And she knows it.
Also people were reacting to the breakdown over the bagel, yes. But it was also her other behaviour. Things like getting candy floss and complaining about the wait for it WITHIN HEARING OF THE OWNER, the fact that she was even buying something so sugary when she should be on an anti-flammitary diet, and she made fun of kids who were doing street performances. “Look what I can do!”
And then she posted it, thinking it was a great video.
1:05:50 the basis of borderline is a lack of sense of self. In the e followed by the letter d we lose our sense of self and connect to it. That is different from a lack of sense of self if that makes sense. Your self was always there just the e followed by the d meant you lost it for a while. You have clear values and sense of who you are. This is just my take and personality disorders are hard to diagnose and treat. So there is no way someone can really tell you based off the snippets you chose to share on the internet. But it doesn't matter. You found yourself and have clear understanding of who you are and what your values are.
Thanks for covering Anna's declared medical discovery. No need to even give her self serving, narcissistic podcast any more attention. You've covered it well and there's really nothing more to say about her genetic uniqueness.
Anna has seemed depressed in the past.
Lots of crying.
I'm not a fan of Anna, and I know that she eats crap and also lies a lot. But, in the interest of a balanced discussion, I asked Google two questions: 1) "can excess fibrosis cause weight gain?" and 2) "Can inflammation cause weight gain?" The answer to both is yes, and the explanations make sense.
@@lisaw8619 inflammation and fibrosis absolutely can cause weight gain. No question.
What neither of those conditions can do is 1) allow a person to pull calories from the air/defy the laws of thermodynamics or
2) add 400 or so extra pounds to your frame. She may have both fibrosis and inflammation-in fact, I don’t doubt she had both-but one does not gain 400+ lbs of solely fibrosis+inflammation.
Edited to add: apologies if that came off sounding aggressive, I wasn’t trying to be…you’re correct in your statement, I just have a big problem with Anna’s depiction of her own story because she’s just so disingenuous about everything.
I hate it when she cries on camera.
All of this Podcast and she still wont just be honest & address her diet. She'd rather consider herself "broken" & "irreparably ill" than change her eating habits. It's frustrating - even moreso as we see her change the narrative to garner sympathy and continue to live in denial.
During the bagel gate video alone (which according to her was days before the surgery):
- she got a huuuuge cotton candy treat = that's not anti-inflammatory
- ended with her getting like a dozen bagels (from a different shop) and her eating on camera like she was "showing the haters" = unhinged behavior for someone receiving fatloss surgery
I'm not sure why she went on that podcast . I know she hates criticism but she put a target on her back going on there
She didn’t “go on” this podcast, this is literally her podcast 😂
She is SUCH an unreliable narrator 😑
Bagel Gate was a tantrum. What’s worse is that she thought it was ok at the time because she actually recorded, edited, and posted the video. 🥯
Yeah now she’s kind of alluding to it being inadvertent or something, like it was filmed live and she couldn’t make necessary edits, so people’s critiques are unfair or invalid. But it wasn’t live. She filmed, watched, edited, and uploaded it, and clearly she thought it was OK at every stage. But typical Anna, as soon as her choices become real life problems she can’t ignore, she immediately has to create some fiction where she’s not responsible for her own actions.