UK to Australia Part 1: How to apply for a F3 job in Australia
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Hey all, today I'm talking through the process of coming to work as a doctor in Australia as a UK graduate. In Part 1 of this mini-series I will take you through the process of how to go about applying for F3 jobs in Australia.
⏰ Time stamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:55 Deciding to come to Australia
02:22 Choosing a location
04:56 the Australian Healthcare system
08:05 Eligibility to apply
11:39 How to apply for a job
16:10 What to email hospitals
Mentioned in this video (in order of mention):
- Website with position descriptions: www.health.qld.gov.au/employm...
- Eligibility to apply to Aus: www.medicalboard.gov.au/Regis...
- QLD hospital contact details: www.health.qld.gov.au/employm...
- NSW job portal: nswjmo.erecruit.com.au/
- Victoria job portals:
www.seek.com.au/
monashhealth.mercury.com.au/
westernhealth.mercury.com.au/...
- Western Australia job portal: medjobswa.mercury.com.au/
- Facebook groups:
/ f3an
/ 1028104633961864
Notary details:
Paul O'Flynn - glosnotary@gmail.com
Australia contact details spreadsheet (will update as needed):
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
About me:
My name is Surina Taneja and I am a junior doctor who trained in the UK. I make videos about being a doctor as well as sharing my insights on the well-being of our mind, body and planet 🧠, 💪🏽 🌍
Check out these other videos on my channel:
How much I earn as a junior doctor in Australia vs. the NHS: • How much I earn as a j...
JUNIOR DOCTOR VS CONSULTANT SURGEON PAY SLIPS in the NHS 💸 | How much money do NHS doctors make?: • JUNIOR DOCTOR VS CONSU...
Day in the life of a surgical resident (Australia): www.youtube.com/watch?v=yws5V...
Why I'm moving to Australia: • I'm leaving the NHS?!
Honest reflections of a junior doctor: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qluUm...
I'm leaving the NHS?!: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjaY...
Night in the life of a junior doctor: www.youtube.com/watch?v=O11pK...
Social media:
📱 Instagram: / drsurinatan. .
🐦 Twitter: / drsurinataneja
🔗 Linkedin: / surina-ta. .
💌 Email: surinataneja@hotmail.co.uk
Thanks Surina, this was insightful and comprehensive. Can’t wait for part 2 !!! 😀
What a G! The compilation is as neat as it gets. Highly appreciate the effort put into this.
Great video for all IMGS. To the point, short and sweet! Waiting for part 2 ❤️ Hope you would cover the post graduate opportunities in Australia for IMGs.
your videos are always very insightful as always. Thank you!
Thanks Surina! consise and easy to understand video as always. An extra thanks for the spreadsheet :))
What an excellent video..!!!! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻, thank you so much for explaining everything so clearly, cannot wait for part - 2 …!!! ❤
Thank you!!
Great video. Thank you. I’ve been here long enough to have a 14 year old. I found getting residency was harder than finding a job (pro tip: marry an Australian!). I was the era where my UK degree didn’t count in Australia, so had to sit through the whole re-exam process, but got a job by just asking. They didn’t even ask for my CV.
Surina I am a degenerate lowlife myself I'm a big fan of your videos, but my best friend is a hard-working Assistant Surgeon in the UK and I have told her about you and now she is debating what herself to do, and I loved vicariously enjoying her debating options and feeling her happiness knowing she had things to look forward too! :)
Good job! thank you for sharing!!🎀🎀
Thank you so much for this.
So helpful... Thank you so much!!!! ❤❤❤
Hi Surina !
Amazing videos. Especially how you have simplified everything in the most realistic way possible . This is probably the best guide iv found in the internet incase i wana move to aus from uk.
Im currently working as FY3 here in uk and about to start IMT1 in aug 🤞.
If possible can u please make a video on training pathways for doctors in australia ? What are the exams involved? Is it MRCP ? . What happens after PGY3/SHO if u want to specialise.
I feel like this road is less travelled so there isnt enough real-life experiences online.
Also maybe make a short video of life outside of work and day to day expenses like groceries ?
Im sorry im asking too much but ur videos and just amazing ! 🌟🌟
Many thanks !
I don't have any experience of this but m you can google portfolio requirements to get on to training pathways. It is similar to the UK in that you need to do exams and research etc do get points. You also need references from consultants which can take a while to collect. People tend to do few years of non training jobs before they get on to a training programme.
Would love to do more Brisbane vlogs for sure!!
this is amazingggg, tyvm
Thank you for the video :D
Thank you for your information, very usefull
extremely helpful, thanks tons!!!!! xxx
No worries!
Thank you Dr Taneja!
Interesting hearing your perspective on climate. The Brisbane climate was a big no no for me when deciding which location to settle in. I hate hot sunny weather. Melbourne offered the most cooler cloudy days per year of the three eastern capitals. Sydney barely has any real winter and Brisbane none at all.
Wow I love this information
Such a great video which I have been wanting to since long time...helps many imgs like me wishing to come to Australia
Can you also make video for imgs like us wishing to go Australia through plab and competent authority pathway
That is included in this video
Thank you so much for this video! It was super insightful! Can you make a video about your daily expenses in AUS?
Good idea! Will do
This was super interesting! I'm a fourth-year medical student in Sydney and am looking at moving to the UK for F2 - do you know of any videos similar to this one for people wanting to move in the opposite direction? Or just any resources for Australian doctors working in the UK? Thank you so much - I've really be loving your videos!
No I don't know of anyone who moved in that direction!
You don't want to go to the UK 😭😭
Thank you so much for this, really helpful! I'm an F1 strongly considering going to Australia for F3.
I have a few questions:
1. Thoughts on going for 6 months vs 1 year? And how easy is it to e.g. extend a 6 month contract to 1 year? Considering doing 6 months in Australia and 6 months travelling/locumming
2. How much time off do you get? Do you find that you have the time to travel and explore Australia +/- nearby countries?
3. How expensive was the whole process of getting into Australia (flights aside I mean things like application fees, visas etc.)?
4. How easy is it to get a medical job? I'm planning on applying for IMT so ideally would want a medical RMO job. From what I've heard almost everyone does ED which has put me off a bit...
Looking forward to part 2 :)
1. 1 year doesn't seem enough! By the time you settle in etc 6 months will fly by. More importantly you need to work on a provisional registration for 1 year in order to get full registration, in order to be able to locum.
2. I get 5 weeks off in the year which unfortunately I have to take in one block. This is not the case for all hospitals or jobs where you can take them off as several 1 week blocks etc. However I haven't taken any annual leave yet and with long weekends/shift swaps have done probably ~10 holidays or so around Queensland and more recently in NSW too 😊
3. All expenses coming out in part 2 (coming out very soon!!)
4. All my friends who want to medicine are working in medical jobs out here :) ED may br one of your rotations but by no means do you have to do it. Lots of medical jobs available too.
Hope that helps!
@@drsurinataneja And how can we get into surgical training ?
Hi, thank you for creating such a useful and insightful video! Would you please interview your friends/ colleagues who are doing F3/ taking a year out in different countries? It will be useful to compare their experiences to yours
Good idea!
Great video, really helpful thanks!! Have you heard of any Aus F3 level jobs in radiology? 👀
Thanks! Hmm no I haven't actually! Probably best to discuss with hospitals directly
Thank you for the wonderful video. Would it possible to shed some light on training pathways for IMG’s who has had specialist training elsewhere? For eg: postgraduate radiology training in India. It would be kind if you could guide through.
Many thanks.
Thank you so much for this video Surina.
Can you please make a video on how an Indian who have completed MS(general surgery) and MRCS can work in Australia or which stage of training programme will they enter.
All pathways to enter Aus are mentioned in this video. Have put the link for where you can find even more info in the description box 😊
Hey! Thankyou for all the help. Please make a video about getting into speciality training in Australia. Also if someone has completed IMT training in UK and wants to specialize further in Australia how would that work.
I don't know too much about that process and haven't looked in to it yet! Will do if I ever do :)
@@drsurinataneja alrightie thankyou ❤
This is so serendipitous I was just looking for how to apply to Australia thank you. Is your partner also a Dr if so it would be great to know how he got into Australia
He is and he went through the exact same process! He was heavily involved in the scripting of this video ☺️
Hi Surina,
Just came across your channel :)
I was wondering which software/app do you use to edit your videos?
Final Cut Pro :)
Hey I’m subscribed and I love your channel. I’ve been thinking about moving to Brisbane for a while, since you asked at the end, I’m curious, did you secure a job offer before you moved to AUS and if so how did it go getting a job offer without them meeting you in person first and being willing to travel to the opposite side of planet Earth for a job that may/may not work out? Lol
Yes you can't apply for the visa until you have a job. Interviews were conducted online and application processes involved sending your qualifications/medical registration competencies/references etc
@@drsurinataneja thank you for your reply, I’m sure you’ve already spoken about this but are you on an employer sponsorship visa? Can you not leave your job without having to return to Britain?
Hey Surina,
My boyfriend and I have been watching your videos for a long time, and found it really helpful so far! Your videos give us a clear picture for us to decide what we want to do next. we are both Indian Mbbs students, will complete our ug degree the coming year and our mandatory one year internship in our hospitals and we were thinking of working in the uk for 2 yrs after clearing plab and then maybe join australian medical care after that. Both of us are not from medical backgrounds so we’re a little confused on how we’d go about it, do we have to give another exam if we want to shift from uk to Australia? We just want to work in both countries to understand which one would we like working in better since both are great options and it’d be great if you could help us just this bit here, really. I hope you reply, thank you. And I love your videos, so informative and crisp.
I think we are on the same path... we can share some information about pathways as we will complete our internship in march
@@dddattani8385 hey! I would be done with my 4th yr by March this year. And then 1 yr of internship, after that we think we want to give plab and we’ll see from there, cause we still got no idea where exactly we want to settle next. Maybe if there is a provision of just getting to work in Australia for like some time- less or equal to one year it would help us to decide what country would suit us best in terms of personal and work life. But that we can think of once we get done w our plab and enter Nhs. Will keep you updated, for sure :))
Thank you for your valuable video. I am one of the IMG has been working in UK for a year and have completed my MRCS part A. However, now I wish to come to Australia and planning to get inside surgical training. I have also heard it’s very competitive for orthopaedic.
Now I am bit confused. Whether to take a risk or stay in a UK with the comfortable zone .?? What you will advise me to do.??
I’m just wondering if for FY3 in Australia could you say do one rotation in Australia then do another rotation in New Zealand or do you have to sign up for the entire year?
Hello Surina. First of all I thank you for sharing your time and experience with us. I am an IMG about to start my F1 in UK and I wanted to ask if I move to F3 with my partner to Australia are we able to link applications ? I would like to stay with someone familiar especially in a foreign country. Do let me know and thank you for your time
Not that I know of but very common for couples to get jobs in the same hospital/very close to each other
Hi mam, I have just got my gmc registration and I am planning to apply a non training job in u.k, will that be enough to apply for F3 in Australia or should I hold a training post in NHS to do so?
Are u planning to do your surgical training and become a surgery consultant in Australia?if yes,can u make a video on the process
Don't think I am no. Not fully decided yet but will make a video discussing it either way 😊
Hi , Surina, thank you loads for this informative video.
I am currently working as SHO for a month in the UK after my PLAB . I am considering to work in Australia through Competent Authority Pathway.
I will complete 12 months of supervised training only in April 2023 and I would like to know when can I start hunting for a job ?
Do I need to wait for one year supervision and then start applying for the job once completed? Or
Can I start applying the job earlier ,mentioning the completed date , to meet the 2023 August intake? May I have your advice here ? Thank you so much in advance.
I think you need to have completed your 1y supervised training first as you need to be fully GMC registered to apply
I know someone who started applying before completing 1 year in the UK. Simply let the hospitals know you will be eligible for registration via the competent authority pathway.
Hey how are you, I want to ask is it possible to get a job in Australia after graduating from medical school, I mean after completing Mbbs without having done internship.?
If an IMG works for a year in Ireland can he adopt competent pathway to get into Australia? one year means trainee job or non trainee can work?
Well i wanted to know how and what is the process of moving to Australia after doing MS orthopaedics from india and then MRCS for the GMC registration. Hows the scope and process
Thank you
Thanks for your amazing videos, I came to your latest video to comment with the hope of receiving your response
I have completed an MBBS course in China, currently in my country Ghana preparing for my country's licensing exams.
But I want to in the near future (by near, I mean either once I'm done with the exams or right after Housejob), what do I need to consider, in terms of exams and how to go about it
And again Thanks 😊.
Sorry not sure which exams you are referring to!
I'm actually referring to what path to take to be able to work in Australia
Nice video
I want to ask you that if I registered in UK by MRCP pathway so can I eligible for Competent Authority pathway in Australia??
Thank you
From what I understand if you are GMC registered you can go down the competent pathway
Hi, thank you for this video. Very helpful! I am an IMG in UK doing CT1 in Psychiatry (currently 3rd year of working in NHS after FY2 in India). I intend to do psychiatry long term. Should I apply for PHO jobs in any speciality during the provisional registration period OR just psychiatry jobs?? TIA 🙂
I think RMO or PHO psychiatry would be best
Can you please tell me about the easiest pathway for Australia ?
Competent or standard ?I am an Medical graduate of Bangladesh.
I've heard specialty training is difficult to get into as a UK doc, hence why so many return to the UK.
What are your thoughts on this
Yep definitely agree! At least for surgery. Some specialities like e.g ED seem a lot more accessible
Some specialties are a "closed shop" in Australia, run by the specialists themselves who form the College and keep out applicants not of their ethnicity, gender or religion.
You might enjoy reading the experience of Assoc. Prof. Munjed Al Muderis, and how he prised his way in to orthopaedic surgery study in WA at RPH.
Best wishes.
As a UK doctor now working as a CMO (Career Medical Officer = no college membership): I suspect the main barrier is immigration, rather than training. I’m aware of many non-Australian doctors who gain full registration (by whatever means) and training with Australian colleges. Getting residency is a bit of a challenge - I recommend getting married to an Australian!
Thanks for the amazing video! I was wondering if you knew anyone who had applied to Australia after F1? Would I be eligible for RMO jobs as a JHO?
Thanks!
Hoping to find this out too!
You're welcome! From what I understand it is a lot easier to come after you've done F1 and F2. Easier to get a job here (I feel there are more gaps in SHO RMO jobs compared to JHO) and also a lot easier to go back to the UK if you wanted to. Eligibility wise I'm not sure I think most jobs wanted full GMC reg which you won't have at the time of applying if you apply in F1.
I know people who have gone to Australia after just F1. Most applied for the jobs before the end of F1 and once they got GMC registration sent it to AHPRA.
CASE-I -----Surina mam .may you tell if we can do mbbs graduation in india then go for fy2 in uk and then for fy3 or st1 can we go to australia .will we have to again give an exam for going to australia in this case.
CASE-2----what steps we have to choose to go to do st1 in australia.which is best and easy way for this.
At last doing a st1 in uk or australia .which one is better , cheaper and in which country we can do easily being an indian medical graduate
Please make video on this thing or you may also reply😁.thanks
1. You need full gmc reg to come to Aus so probably have to do F1 and F2?
2. You have to do several years of jobs training jobs before you might get into a training programme
3. Uk seems easier and cheaper
I heard that those who doesn’t go through plab pathway then Mrcs, they couldn’t go to Australia. Is it true ??
MRCS is not recognised in Aus
How about for someone who has recently taken PLAB route and got GMC full registration, can one apply for the junior doctors posts in Australia and if so how please?
Yep competent pathways as I mentioned in this vid or in part 2 :)
On the AMC website its mentioned that we need 1 year post registration experience to be eligible for Competent pathway.
@@remi4489 Thank you
Nice one big head!!
Im so scared that i cant secure housemanship in aussie cause im in scotland 😭 but i really wanna go aussie
is it harder for scottish students than english students?
Any insight regarding moving from india ?
Hi there, how are you? Are you thinking of becoming a citizen or getting your Permanent Residence?
Good thanks! Not too sure at the moment. Most likely will return to the UK.
Hey, do you need to be an Australian citizen to become a doctor in Australia?
Nopes I'm not
Just a question, can I move to Australia for my F1 and F2 years after graduating or do I have to do them in the UK? Could I get an RMO job?
Much easier to get an Aus job post F1/F2 and when you have full GMC reg. Don't know of anyone who has come here before that stage.
Dear Ayomide, You will have to go via the standard pathway and wrote the AMCs if you do not do the PLABs with 1 year experience in the UK.
I m graduate in doctor of Medicine from Phillipines..maam without any past experience is it possible to get registration in Australia as I m doing my internship. After internship ( without any experience) is it possible to get registration in Australia? I heard that without experience it is not possible to get general practitioner license in Australia..plzzz rply maam
I'm not sure sorry! Will have to check online RE different pathways and which one might apply to you
After doing MTI in UK, can I apply for job in Australia via the competent pathway?
I think so if you're gmc registered
@@drsurinataneja Hi Surina, I am currently not in the UK but I am in the process of doing the MRCS exams. I have more than 7 yrs of experience as an ENT surgeon. Can I move to Australia after MRCS part 2 through the competent pathway even if I don't work in the UK?
Can a BAMS MS graduate from India practice in Australia???
No
Can a non training orthopedics registrar currently working in uk can move to Australia and find same job?
Probably at "PHO" level
@@drsurinataneja same as SHO in uk?
Hi Dear
I did my MBBS from Pakistan. Now doing job as Obs and Gyne in Saudia having 14 years experience. Done my MRCPI FROM Ireland. Any exemption for AMC 1 OR AMC 2 . Plz Guide .
I will be grateful 🙏
I'm not sure about AMC sorry!
@@drsurinataneja its ok . Thanks for reply
Hi
Good
How to apply nursing job in Australia plz tell me
Not sure about nursing
Why did you choose Australia and not the USA?
Seems like a better work life balance, much easier to get into compared to the USA (no exams etc needed), much higher up on my travel bucket list, prefer the culture/vibe in Aus, love the Australian accent a lot more 😅
@@drsurinataneja thanks for the reply 👍
Why you are not going USA?
1. Don't want to work in the healthcare system in the USA (privatised, poor work life balance)
2. Don't want to sit more exams (USMLE)
3. Australia is high up on my travel list so wanted to explore it whilst working
Be careful. My cousin graduated in medicine in Australia. She even got post graduate qualifications from Harvard in the US. Guess what? Jobs would only last for a couple of years at best in Australia. Not white? Forget about it. The old mates network rules in OZ!
ag visa??? tao noi roi, deo lam con me gi het, lam ta dien nong dan hang bet thoi :D ke me bon may noi gi :D
Be warned Surina. This is still a very racist country. It is full of ex UK migrants, who left there when "the blacks started coming over". I used to hear this in my workplace many years ago....and though there are laws, it still persists. Don't encourage people to come to Australia. It has a population the size of Los Angeles and many newcomers will be directed to go to regional and remote areas.