I’ve always had an strong pull with Enos, because of my relationship with the members of the church at a young age of 10 years I was baptized, lost and alone my family was very dysfunctional and I needed constancy, I smelled of cigarettes and booz I’m sure , but the members children literally drove me away, finally at the age of 28, I read the Book of Mormon and knew that Enos and I were looking for “Our Way To God” so I started praying, I prayed and fasted, and I knew that his example declared to me that I was worthy to be NOW A CONVERTED MEMBER AT AGE 28…and that I was worthy to belong to My Saviors church, I became converted through that conversion I declared to God and My Savior that no Person would Ever Stop me from enjoying my Membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ever again.
I’m so glad that you found your way home. I wish you could have had a different experience but I am SURE that Heavenly Father will work these things for your good. I am also one who was baptized young and needed to find my way back. I am now a powerful example of the cleansing and healing power of our Savior’s atonement and continued help. You are that person now. By relying upon the grace of Jesus Christ you are also a powerful example. Through your negative experience you will continue to have a positive impact on those around you.
Hank and John, I have been listening to your podcast for several years now. I have learned so much from the wonderful men and women that you invite on your podcast to share their amazing knowledge with us! The knowledge and insight that I have gained through their teachings/lessons truly help me come closer to Christ. Thank you, Hank! Thank you, John! For helping me take my gospel learning to a new level and for helping me "Follow Him"!
My father had an interesting perspective of Enos on his knees. Yes, Enos knelt down, but it doesn't say he was on his knees ALL day. What do we do? We kneel in the morning, praying over what is bothering us. Then get up off our knees and go about our day. We go to work, to our job, taking care of business, taking kids to soccer practice, hunting beasts in the forests, but all along we have this heavy prayer in our hearts, crying unto the Lord all the day long. And when night comes, we kneel again, and still raise our voice high. Many times I have received answers as I was going about my responsibilities of the day, but with a prayer in my heart.
Brother Stringham, this is so eloquently written. Yes, offer up your voice to the Lord then get to work. For this slightly hyper, definitely distracted lady that’s the best way to pray.
I agree, Enos wrote his impressions of that day, and we can do as he did, take those pray full moments on our knees, yet Rise with that same prayer full feeling in our hearts All day!
This was a great episode! I loved what he said about moving forward in faith despite our questions! “Get in line”, great point! I have been listening for 3 years and this is definitely one of my favorites. Thanks Dr. Dirkmaat!
Oh man, thank you guys so much for this. As a mother of 4 grown inactive children I have spent countless hours beating myself up for ‘failure in being a good steward’, such a great reminder that God knows what the true intentions of my have always been, tho perhaps I wasn’t a very skilled communicator.
When you talked about your wrestling son, my grandpa Mickey Hart really did that! He was a new college student at the Chicago Music College, probably 1930’s. He went through the whole dorm and put tracts about Joseph Smith in every common room. The Resident Assistant gathered them all and told Mickey he could not put those out. Mickey said, “How about I wrestle you for it. If I win, they start all year. If I lose, I won’t put them out.” They wrestled and Mickey won! 😂 He spent his whole life teaching people the gospel ❤
I love this so much! Your show notes are fabulous! You make studying the Book of Mormon so fun and interesting and I learn so much from your Podcast! Thank you for all of the time and effort you put in to this for all of us! You are truly amazing! I also like your humor! Good job to both of you!
“We work ourselves into a frenzy trying to figure out exactly how God is going to work everything out.” And “God forgives.” These two statements sparked a random thought that is seemingly unrelated but, I think, an important part of the plan to understand. One of the ways we “practice” celestial life is by forgiving. The more I forgive the closer I become to my Heavenly Family. An added benefit is that I learn how possible it is for ME to be forgiven. Another way to say this is we learn grace for grace. By extending grace to others- forgiving- I receive grace- forgiveness and increased capacity to stay on the covenant path.
I LOVED Elder Dushku's talk in this last Conference "Pillars and Rays" because not all of us have an Enos or Joseph Smith moment with a big answer from the Lord, but we often get rays here and there of confirmations of truth that are so subtle we might miss them, but they lead to our testimonies.
I love that thought, by Brother Smith, "He says to us, "I'm that good, I can overcome your parenting to your children!" 😅🤣🥰 I think most of my deepest wrestling prayers have been to overcome my parenting. I think there's a scripture in the Bible, don't let your anger tear down the very walls you've labored so hard to build. Doh! Why am I that woman at times? I love too that Brother Dirkmaat brings out that Enos then is completely relieved in his wrestle, by our Lord, "Our delightful forgiver" 🤗-Thank you, Emmy Gay
That would have been a wonderful class! As a person who never had the chance to attend college level religion classes, I’m thankful for this resource and others like it. I get to learn about the scriptures from these professors and others.
Amazing lesson! I always listen to this podcast every single day while at work, everyday this is my dose of learning while sewing temple garments. It always strengthen my testimony learning the principles taught in the Book of Mormon. Thank you for your guys' knowledge & wisdom shared.
Definitely one of my favorite "Follow Me" episodes! Thank you Hank & John! Y'all do such awesome work and along with your guests bring so much insight and information to each Come Follow Me lesson! God bless you all!
Yay for the Uruguay Montevideo West Mission!! My son is currently there and it is an amazing missionary with great leaders and beautiful people! Best wishes to Elder Bytheway!!
I really appreciate Dr. Gerrit's comments near the beginning about the struggles of trying to encourage teenagers to learn/listen/build their testimonies. The reminder that prophets even struggled with teaching their own children. We know this by reading the scriptures in a number of places. But as a convert that's a single mom, trying to have scripture time or trying to encourage my kids to go to church or youth activities is super hard most of the time. These reminders that we are not alone are so lifting, so encouraging. Let's all keep going and trying. Thank you. 💙
I needed to hear this Dr. Garrit. Thank you! 3:44 I get down on myself constantly. I haven't been a great example, but I have been trying so hard to love and teach my children in kindness. Not yelling at them for not doing something, or messing something up. But truly teach them in love. Thank you all for your efforts! ❤ 5:35
Great podcast ! Thank you for your time to help teach. Very much like what you do and it was and has been a blessing for many during the times when Church was closed due to virus. It still is helping us learn of our Lord and Savor and his blessings.
The prophet taught us to learn to receive personal revelation. If he advises us to do some temporal thing and we pray about it but the Spirit tells us not to do it, we are following the prophet by seeking and following instruction from the Spirit.
It's good for our children to see us happy for sure... yet it is also a wonderful teaching experience for them to see us struggle and be able to work through the hard stuff.... :)
If anyone is curious about the story referred to in the beginning of this podcast you can hear it on Doctrine and Covenants 60-62, part 2, time 26:31. It's a great story!
I love this discussion so much! Thank you all for being willing to share your testimony with us each week and for these amazing scholars who bring their knowledge and faith to these discussions. ❤
It is imperative that each of us gain a remission of sins like enos, and being sanctified by the baptism of fire so that the spirit will always be with us and we can come closer to God. 3 nephi 9:20 seems to be the best answer to how we must approach him, out of the mouth of Jesus himself.
When you compared Joseph's vision to Enos, wondering how Joseph's felt - I thought - well it certainly reinforced the go-to-the-woods-to-pray. I am glad he and Oliver Cowdery did that and received Arronic priesthood and baptism!! thankZ
Brethren, I appreciate greatly what you share. I was surprised in your discussion of Omni v 17. All the discussion on the importance of records was with the language and how without records it had become corrupted and they couldn't understand each other. All languages change and evolve over time. The heart of this verse is the statement "...and they denied the being of their Creator." The Mulekites had become atheists!!! This is the most important reason for the records and scriptures.
I am not sure Enos wasn't converted per se before he kneeled down to pray. I personally feel like he may have been more like Spencer W. Kimball when he was called to be an apostle. If you read President Kimball's account of his wrestle before the Lord as he got ready to accept that apostolic calling, you will probably think of Enos's wrestle before the Lord. I think every newly-called apostle/prophet has that kind of wrestle as he approaches the things that will be expected of him.
Hi Hank and John, I am writing from Fort Collins, Colorado. Hank, I am good friends with your niece and nephew here at CSU! I have had a question about Enos that I was hoping would get answered here, but it didn't get specifically addressed, so I thought I'd shoot it out there: Enos 1: 25 says that Enos reports 179 years since Lehi left Jerusalem. By my calculations, either Enos lived to be a lot older than most other BoM prophets, or maybe Jacob was really old when he had Enos. I even read a couple people online say there may have been a skipped generation with two Enos's. (The Enos writing the book of Enos never says directly that Jacob was his father). The last exact date given (that I found) was Jacob 1:1, which was 55 years since Lehi left Jerusalem. Usually the BoM timeline is so airtight, but this feels like there is something missing. Do you have any insight on this? It's not a spiritual question, and the answer certainly doesn't rock my testimony, but I think it would be fascinating to know. Thank you for all you do!
There is nothing in the text that says that this is “Enos’s Conversion”. It makes interesting conversation and makes it easy to make points in classes but this tradition is not scriptural. I firmly believe that Enos was a strong and faithful leader. Those who are strong in faith are often the ones who feel their weaknesses the most and feel the need for repentance and forgiveness the most. Even their littlest faults and “sins” bear heavily on them. They are the ones most likely to have the faith and desire to go pray all day and night pleading with the Lord. As an extreme example think of Pres. Kimball’s story of being called to be an apostle. He spent days praying and repenting and going to everyone he may have offended in life to apologize and ask forgiveness. This is the Enos I see in the scriptures. This is not a conversion story but a story of faith and righteous desire. It’s a great story and one I use as a type for my own life for when I need an answer or blessing. I look at Enos’s example and read this chapter.
Why don't we teach remission of sins in the church anymore? It is clear from scripture and from Boyd K. Packer, for one, that a remission of sin is received through the baptism of fire and the holy ghost. That is what Enos was seeking; he was NOT seeking forgiveness of his sins - He is a prophet and a spiritual leader of the people. As he says in verse 2, that is the whole point of his story!
Henry Hank Smith How did you feel when you heard the news about my accident on my Niece Sofia's 13th Birthday from the parking lot from Chrysailis when I almost died in front of these people that works at 6991 N. Tech Dr Midvale Utah 84047 lately thanks for helping them by saving my life with them with Sheldon Steven Lance Clint every day hours you would be 😢 😊 😮
I’ve always had an strong pull with Enos, because of my relationship with the members of the church at a young age of 10 years I was baptized, lost and alone my family was very dysfunctional and I needed constancy, I smelled of cigarettes and booz I’m sure , but the members children literally drove me away, finally at the age of 28, I read the Book of Mormon and knew that Enos and I were looking for “Our Way To God” so I started praying, I prayed and fasted, and I knew that his example declared to me that I was worthy to be NOW A CONVERTED MEMBER AT AGE 28…and that I was worthy to belong to My Saviors church, I became converted through that conversion I declared to God and My Savior that no Person would Ever Stop me from enjoying my Membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ever again.
I’m so glad that you found your way home. I wish you could have had a different experience but I am SURE that Heavenly Father will work these things for your good.
I am also one who was baptized young and needed to find my way back. I am now a powerful example of the cleansing and healing power of our Savior’s atonement and continued help. You are that person now. By relying upon the grace of Jesus Christ you are also a powerful example. Through your negative experience you will continue to have a positive impact on those around you.
Such a beautiful testimony! So glad for you that you know who you are and who you belong to.
I love your testimony. We all need to find ours. I find mine too!
Hank and John, I have been listening to your podcast for several years now. I have learned so much from the wonderful men and women that you invite on your podcast to share their amazing knowledge with us! The knowledge and insight that I have gained through their teachings/lessons truly help me come closer to Christ. Thank you, Hank! Thank you, John! For helping me take my gospel learning to a new level and for helping me "Follow Him"!
My father had an interesting perspective of Enos on his knees. Yes, Enos knelt down, but it doesn't say he was on his knees ALL day. What do we do? We kneel in the morning, praying over what is bothering us. Then get up off our knees and go about our day. We go to work, to our job, taking care of business, taking kids to soccer practice, hunting beasts in the forests, but all along we have this heavy prayer in our hearts, crying unto the Lord all the day long. And when night comes, we kneel again, and still raise our voice high. Many times I have received answers as I was going about my responsibilities of the day, but with a prayer in my heart.
Brother Stringham, this is so eloquently written. Yes, offer up your voice to the Lord then get to work. For this slightly hyper, definitely distracted lady that’s the best way to pray.
I agree, Enos wrote his impressions of that day, and we can do as he did, take those pray full moments on our knees, yet Rise with that same prayer full feeling in our hearts All day!
This was a great episode! I loved what he said about moving forward in faith despite our questions! “Get in line”, great point! I have been listening for 3 years and this is definitely one of my favorites. Thanks Dr. Dirkmaat!
Oh man, thank you guys so much for this. As a mother of 4 grown inactive children I have spent countless hours beating myself up for ‘failure in being a good steward’, such a great reminder that God knows what the true intentions of my have always been, tho perhaps I wasn’t a very skilled communicator.
When you talked about your wrestling son, my grandpa Mickey Hart really did that! He was a new college student at the Chicago Music College, probably 1930’s. He went through the whole dorm and put tracts about Joseph Smith in every common room. The Resident Assistant gathered them all and told Mickey he could not put those out. Mickey said, “How about I wrestle you for it. If I win, they start all year. If I lose, I won’t put them out.” They wrestled and Mickey won! 😂
He spent his whole life teaching people the gospel ❤
I love this guest
Dr. Dirkmaat is fabulous and hilarious! Thanks so much for sharing him!
I love this so much! Your show notes are fabulous! You make studying the Book of Mormon so fun and interesting and I learn so much from your Podcast! Thank you for all of the time and effort you put in to this for all of us! You are truly amazing! I also like your humor! Good job to both of you!
“We work ourselves into a frenzy trying to figure out exactly how God is going to work everything out.” And “God forgives.” These two statements sparked a random thought that is seemingly unrelated but, I think, an important part of the plan to understand.
One of the ways we “practice” celestial life is by forgiving. The more I forgive the closer I become to my Heavenly Family. An added benefit is that I learn how possible it is for ME to be forgiven. Another way to say this is we learn grace for grace. By extending grace to others- forgiving- I receive grace- forgiveness and increased capacity to stay on the covenant path.
Thank you so much! This is one of my most favorite episodes so far! Thank you! So many prayers answered for me!
Thank you for continuing to feed my soul with goodness from Heavenly Father! ❤
Marvelous lesson this week. I'm so amazed at the Spirit that accompanies this podcast!! You open my heart!!❤
Oh my gosh 15 minutes in and many of my prayers have been answered and I feel better about myself.
Thank you Dr. Dirkmaat. Your conversation was very relatable to me. Thank you for your perspective.
I have always loved Hank and Jon, but many thanks for bringing on Dr Dirkmatt. I am loving this man!!!
You all help my “soul to hunger” Thank you 👍🇨🇦😊♥️
I LOVED Elder Dushku's talk in this last Conference "Pillars and Rays" because not all of us have an Enos or Joseph Smith moment with a big answer from the Lord, but we often get rays here and there of confirmations of truth that are so subtle we might miss them, but they lead to our testimonies.
I love that thought, by Brother Smith, "He says to us, "I'm that good, I can overcome your parenting to your children!" 😅🤣🥰
I think most of my deepest wrestling prayers have been to overcome my parenting. I think there's a scripture in the Bible, don't let your anger tear down the very walls you've labored so hard to build. Doh! Why am I that woman at times? I love too that Brother Dirkmaat brings out that Enos then is completely relieved in his wrestle, by our Lord, "Our delightful forgiver" 🤗-Thank you, Emmy Gay
Love Dr Dirkmaatt. He taught my Foundations of the Restoration class and my only complaint was that it was only once a week
That would have been a wonderful class! As a person who never had the chance to attend college level religion classes, I’m thankful for this resource and others like it. I get to learn about the scriptures from these professors and others.
Thanks Hank you hit the question all parents ask themselves,
Such a wonderful lesson! I feel so blessed, knowing that I can, or , I am being forgiven! Thank you! ❤🇨🇦
Amazing lesson! I always listen to this podcast every single day while at work, everyday this is my dose of learning while sewing temple garments. It always strengthen my testimony learning the principles taught in the Book of Mormon. Thank you for your guys' knowledge & wisdom shared.
Definitely one of my favorite "Follow Me" episodes! Thank you Hank & John! Y'all do such awesome work and along with your guests bring so much insight and information to each Come Follow Me lesson! God bless you all!
Thank you
Yay for the Uruguay Montevideo West Mission!! My son is currently there and it is an amazing missionary with great leaders and beautiful people! Best wishes to Elder Bytheway!!
I really appreciate Dr. Gerrit's comments near the beginning about the struggles of trying to encourage teenagers to learn/listen/build their testimonies. The reminder that prophets even struggled with teaching their own children. We know this by reading the scriptures in a number of places. But as a convert that's a single mom, trying to have scripture time or trying to encourage my kids to go to church or youth activities is super hard most of the time. These reminders that we are not alone are so lifting, so encouraging. Let's all keep going and trying. Thank you. 💙
Thank you for helping me feel better as a person and a parent.
I agree with that. Following the prophet no matter what is what makes unshaken faith.
Thank you for each and every lesson! I have not known of Dr. Dirkmaat before, but he is now one of my favorites! Please have him back often!
This is wonderful ❤
Dirkmaat is the GOAT!
Awesome!
I needed to hear this Dr. Garrit. Thank you! 3:44 I get down on myself constantly. I haven't been a great example, but I have been trying so hard to love and teach my children in kindness. Not yelling at them for not doing something, or messing something up. But truly teach them in love. Thank you all for your efforts! ❤ 5:35
My son also served in the Uruguay Montevideo West mission!
Great podcast ! Thank you for your time to help teach. Very much like what you do and it was and has been a blessing for many during the times when Church was closed due to virus. It still is helping us learn of our Lord and Savor and his blessings.
I really needed to hear this today. The comments on parenting touched my heart. Thank you.❤
The prophet taught us to learn to receive personal revelation. If he advises us to do some temporal thing and we pray about it but the Spirit tells us not to do it, we are following the prophet by seeking and following instruction from the Spirit.
Thank you for saying this. My thoughts exactly. He preached personal revelation so much, we can't throw that out.
It's good for our children to see us happy for sure... yet it is also a wonderful teaching experience for them to see us struggle and be able to work through the hard stuff.... :)
If anyone is curious about the story referred to in the beginning of this podcast you can hear it on Doctrine and Covenants 60-62, part 2, time 26:31. It's a great story!
Thank you! I was looking for that and couldn't find it!
I am a Jesus sheep! I Love 💕 it. Protects me from wolves! 😊❤
Hey John! I am thrilled to receive Elder Bytheway in our Montevideo mission, 🎉 congrats!
I love this discussion so much! Thank you all for being willing to share your testimony with us each week and for these amazing scholars who bring their knowledge and faith to these discussions. ❤
It is imperative that each of us gain a remission of sins like enos, and being sanctified by the baptism of fire so that the spirit will always be with us and we can come closer to God. 3 nephi 9:20 seems to be the best answer to how we must approach him, out of the mouth of Jesus himself.
When you compared Joseph's vision to Enos, wondering how Joseph's felt - I thought - well it certainly reinforced the go-to-the-woods-to-pray. I am glad he and Oliver Cowdery did that and received Arronic priesthood and baptism!! thankZ
Brethren, I appreciate greatly what you share. I was surprised in your discussion of Omni v 17. All the discussion on the importance of records was with the language and how without records it had become corrupted and they couldn't understand each other. All languages change and evolve over time. The heart of this verse is the statement "...and they denied the being of their Creator." The Mulekites had become atheists!!! This is the most important reason for the records and scriptures.
🤩😘 Guys what can I say? I love love your lessons.
Bro. Dirk Moss!
I am not sure Enos wasn't converted per se before he kneeled down to pray. I personally feel like he may have been more like Spencer W. Kimball when he was called to be an apostle. If you read President Kimball's account of his wrestle before the Lord as he got ready to accept that apostolic calling, you will probably think of Enos's wrestle before the Lord. I think every newly-called apostle/prophet has that kind of wrestle as he approaches the things that will be expected of him.
That is what I thought as I watched the video about Enos this morning.
So glad I am in Missouri during this dispensation 😂😂 with Air Conditioning!!! 😂😂😂
Hi Hank and John,
I am writing from Fort Collins, Colorado. Hank, I am good friends with your niece and nephew here at CSU!
I have had a question about Enos that I was hoping would get answered here, but it didn't get specifically addressed, so I thought I'd shoot it out there: Enos 1: 25 says that Enos reports 179 years since Lehi left Jerusalem. By my calculations, either Enos lived to be a lot older than most other BoM prophets, or maybe Jacob was really old when he had Enos. I even read a couple people online say there may have been a skipped generation with two Enos's. (The Enos writing the book of Enos never says directly that Jacob was his father). The last exact date given (that I found) was Jacob 1:1, which was 55 years since Lehi left Jerusalem. Usually the BoM timeline is so airtight, but this feels like there is something missing. Do you have any insight on this? It's not a spiritual question, and the answer certainly doesn't rock my testimony, but I think it would be fascinating to know. Thank you for all you do!
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There is nothing in the text that says that this is “Enos’s Conversion”. It makes interesting conversation and makes it easy to make points in classes but this tradition is not scriptural. I firmly believe that Enos was a strong and faithful leader. Those who are strong in faith are often the ones who feel their weaknesses the most and feel the need for repentance and forgiveness the most. Even their littlest faults and “sins” bear heavily on them. They are the ones most likely to have the faith and desire to go pray all day and night pleading with the Lord. As an extreme example think of Pres. Kimball’s story of being called to be an apostle. He spent days praying and repenting and going to everyone he may have offended in life to apologize and ask forgiveness. This is the Enos I see in the scriptures. This is not a conversion story but a story of faith and righteous desire. It’s a great story and one I use as a type for my own life for when I need an answer or blessing. I look at Enos’s example and read this chapter.
I can’t find a Walter Rane “Enos” painting. Do you have a link?
What is the relation of Dr. Dirkmaat to the elder missionary who was assigned here in the Philippines, specifically in Goa?
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Min. 57
Thank you Hank!
For me that’s the biggest issue- small plates, limited space, running out of room.
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"The worst part about walking a thousand miles to Missouri, is when you get there you are in Missouri."
Why don't we teach remission of sins in the church anymore? It is clear from scripture and from Boyd K. Packer, for one, that a remission of sin is received through the baptism of fire and the holy ghost. That is what Enos was seeking; he was NOT seeking forgiveness of his sins - He is a prophet and a spiritual leader of the people. As he says in verse 2, that is the whole point of his story!
Henry Hank Smith How did you feel when you heard the news about my accident on my Niece Sofia's 13th Birthday from the parking lot from Chrysailis when I almost died in front of these people that works at 6991 N. Tech Dr Midvale Utah 84047 lately thanks for helping them by saving my life with them with Sheldon Steven Lance Clint every day hours you would be 😢 😊 😮