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- A look at the Hornsby Slot Car centre in Sydney which holds the national championship slot car event.
See a slot car race around a 186 foot track in 3.2 seconds!
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This really makes me miss racing wing cars with my dad. I had a ton of fun with him. My dad won many competitions. And drag racing too. My dad had a Willy’s drag car that did 88mph on the track. I forgot how long the drag track was but it was amazing it could do almost 90 in a very short distance. Thanks for the video!
Cool to see the hobby get some exposure on the interweb.
Thanks Dave!
Brings back memories from the late '60s' - one of the funniest things is watching the drivers during competition races - their eyes are nearly popping out of their skulls trying to watch the car zoom around. Great vid EEV
This reminds me of my Tyco race track that I had when I was a kid. I could still smell the odor that was given off by those tiny motors.
Biggest difference between the two, the 1/24 cars have NO magnets holding it to the track
@@scottw2157 motors give a magnetic effect.....so they do somewhat.....
Thats what i love about this channel, you never know where you'll end up. Very cool.
ZOMG @ 3 seconds around that track!!! The record (less than 2 seconds) seems unbelievable!!!
Its not .
It's nice to see these large tracks still in existence. We used to have them here in Victoria BC in the late sixties but they disappeared and my favorite track turned into a nightclub. I still have a few cars which were hi tech back in the day but they look like dinosaurs now compared to the ones you are showing us!.
how's it goin', eh? (Surrey, B.C.)
It's been probably close to a decade since the local slot track closed in my area but still have my cars and controllers and loved the hobby
Same! I’m reliving it by watching RUclips videos haha there is a track almost 3 hours away from me that’s reopening again on June 5th! So stoked
As a kid I loved to go all the time. Now none in Houston I wish there was.
Good to see a track still going in Sydney, there were quite a few around in the 70' and 80's here.
this is why i love your youtube channel. so much variance but you show and talk about the stuff that i, or most of us, are interested in most.
Wow, two subjects dear to my heart in one video... EEVblog & slot cars! Who would've thought?
Grew up racing slot cars and introduced my kids to them a few years back.
Such a fun sport, great for all ages.
OMG, Does that take me back. I was racing in 1964, building my own slot cars. Never had a lot of money, but sure had a great time. I raced at a place called WHITTIER GRAND PRIX.
I think you found your calling. We all want to see you nerd out and build a car and controller. Plenty of airplane nuts in this crowd to help with an aerodynamic body designed to make it fast and stick to the track. A g-sensor activated spoiler to assist hold down on corners could be made from cheap quad controller parts. Fine tune the spoiler in betaflight or some other quad software.
You're talking about adding substantial weight to the car. You'd need a circuit to regulate the voltage coming off of the track which I'm guessing isn't always a constant connection, so your need a capacitor to keep the microcontroller running if the car loses connection for just a split second.
@@skuzlebut82 It could be as simple as a balanced spoiler that increases it's angle of attack automatically as the air pressure on the car body increases. The aerodynamic shape of the body would not add any weight. It's just molded over a plug out of thin plastic. Even if you added electronics the corner speed increase might offset the hit taken in the weight department.
@H Higgins reversing the polarity certainly isn't the best way to brake, some "smart" digital controllers like the Yatronic ACD series do it, but usually it's just done by basically shorting out the motor, so no reverse power is applied
@H Higgins yeah but nowadays it's bad practice as there are quite a few brands where the motor actually will have a way shorter lifetime when people use PWM control (to ride) and/or reverse power brake, thats why difalco and kopriwa dont do that
Would add too much weight. The name of the game is a very light high rpm car, so you can keep it planted like an F1 car in corners.
This reminds me of when I was a little kid in the 70s. In the USA slot car tracks were big time
Good times, Sigh! Back in the 70's I was spoiled and had the Tyco Niteglo and multiple sets of AFX tracks. I also had the Sizzlers tracks. How many people remember the Sizzlers cars that you would charge up and race?
I remember doing slots back in the day. It was great fun but I mostly ran drag slots. Our local place had a 100' drag track. The fastest cars could do 100' in .3 sec, that's really moving. Ahh what memories..
Fast is much easier when you don't have to go around bends!
That's around 250 mph or 400 kph.
Did run slotcars in the 80´s. good to c there is a few tracks left.
I was big into HO slot cars. Had a co-op build with best friend. It was a 4 lane track with elevation changes that was a scale 2.3 miles long. Each lane had it own dedicated power source with master switch to kill or energize the layout. It was so loved even my friend parents entertained other couples with a little racing. My favorite cars were a Porsche 917 in Gulf livery and 2 custom builds; a 57 T-Bird and 66 Corvair.
In comp they lay lines of track goo before the corners, then just hold the trigger flat and use the goo to slow them for the corners. Whatever you do don't watch comp cars near a corner, or you will get sprayed with goo.
Omg omg omg I'm just down the road I used to go there all the time as a kid, a meet up there would be mad
I used to race slot cars back in the mid-1960s USA. I was about to say that those cars didn't look as fast as the cars we used to race back then until I saw that last car. Wow! I don't remember adhesive being used on the tracks back then. That is new. There were a lot of cars flying off in the corners. You needed more skill to avoid that. It seems like all the tracks disappeared almost overnight.
Modern slot cars generate so much power that you can't put it all into the wheels without adhesive. Same reason why drag race tracks are pouring this strong adhesive over the starting strip and doing burnouts to put some extra sticky stuff on the surface.
The slower cars you were watching were hire cars, assembled and geared to be manageable for walk in kids on lower track power. Sadly for the serious fan, most weekends are booked tight on both tracks with kids parties, so as to make the business viable. Hobby racers get track access about three nights a week for organised racing, and of course any other time suitable when you can get to run race voltage when there are no rookies around. As far as I know, Hornsby and most Oz tracks race on spray goo, which is applied very thinly, usually after the track has been immaculately cleaned to remove rubber accumulation. "Glue" racing was popular at the high end years ago, whereby tacky glue was applied to strategic parts of the lane by the competitor, to their own liking as far as I know.
I've raced this track at the low end of competition, with scratch built retro cars with control motors that will lap in the high fives, and flexi chassis type cars, that will lap in very low fives at least. Those flexies will cost you about US$80 or less right now today, go get one and have some fun. There are more tracks around than you think, I'll bet.
that is awesome, I can remember my dad telling me about the drag stips they had back in the.. 60's? :D thanks for sharing
Looks like Saran Wrap with wheels. Guess it goes fast, but then the race is over. Why bother....
@@arthursmith1732 lol, lol ..lol
That car's velocity is about 17.7m/s. In a turn with 1m radius that car pulls about 31.3Gs. Wow.
So.. If it weighs 20 grams.. That will be 626 grams of force.
@@asteen75 & a shit tone of speed.
And what's the downforce on the straights?
@@asteen75 So it's at least 626.1 grams of downforce or that plastic sheet-thingy would go flying?
Its the Weight of the slotcar... The force that pulls it outwards in a turn with 1m radius.
Where they hold national championships... looks at wiring... ‘thats abit how you doing isnt it’ ha!
Wahay! You can type what you heard!! You’d make an excellent 2 year old (4 year old in the USA).
@@mactheknife4786 You're fun at parties aren't you...
WOW! slot cars sure have changed from when I was a kid , my folks owned and operated an 8 lane slot car race track, back in the 60' & 70's I think I can remember 75 cent for 1/2hr or an hour not sure, a lot for a little kid , I would work for time on track ! Well anyway after my folks closed up shop, we boxed everything up, I still have boxes of cars and car parts from bodys every thing from bumper to bumper and in between! Controllers and parts for controllers! I even have section of old track, I could probably setup shop with everything I've got! WOW THANKS FOR LETTING ME REMINESS!♡
That was the best episode yet. Cheers
We had a place in Tulsa, OK in the late 90's for slot cars and I loved it. I went pretty much every couple of days as a kid. They had 2 tracks and a drag strip and it was awesome. The main track looks a lot like the big one you show at first except we ran it in reverse with the large bank turn being turn 1. I still have my cars and would love to race them again but there is nowhere to race here.
I remember going there as a kid in the late 1960s, place and track still looks exactly the same, well except for the fancing timing equipment :-)
That car was mad!! Super stripped down!!! Xx
Great track! Slow end of racing classes is being shown. Lots of fun!
Wow brings back memories of the track they use to have at Leumeah when I was a kid, roughly 27 years ago.
I didn't have much money to put into the hobby but I think I remember my cars had either a green arm motor in a womp chassis or a super 16-D in a flexi chassis.
I also had one of those winged bodies too but it use to cut down straight speed but corner speed was heavily increased as was the heat generated in the motor.
Pretty sure we had races every Saturday and Sunday night.
I remember Rolands funland at Ulladulla having an awesome slotcar track when I was a kid!
I spent a lot of my younger years here, 25+ years ago. Kept me out of mischief, also maccas next door was a treat. Sad to see it's gone.
I'm studying a Cert II I Elcteotechnology :) your videos have helped inspire me to start a career in the Electric industry :) cheers!
Wow ! Thanks for sharing !
I didn't know slot cars were still a thing. There used to be a huge track down the road from where I lived as kid back in the early 1960's in the foyer of a disused cinema. It was too expensive for me to race but I loved going there to watch the cars. That was about 55 years ago but now seems like yesterday.
Looks so fun!
:0 I've been here before!!! I remember this place from a few years back!!!
I grew up (and still live) near this place, but I've never actually been inside. Pretty amazing the speed they can get to.
1000 bucks for that?? There is nothing to it. What separates the men from the boys is the price of their toys.
ye these wingcars literally have no issue whatsoever to stay in the track, as you can see the kid literally just held the trigger and the car stayed in the track, you could literally have done that with a standard resistor controller, however for other types of slotcars those controller upgrades certainly are more useful than just an "expensive buy", for example for scaleauto cars or plafit chassis based cars, and even Flexi type chassis cars (wingcars do have a form of a really minimal Flexi type chassis, but the lightweightness because of the minimalism and the winged bodies, meanwhile not only being light, the winged bodies actually do generate a HELL of a lot of downforce, which is why it stays in place), those are a lot harder to drive than these
And yet a few months ago a 1st edition charizard card. A piece of plastic and cardboard sold for $350,000 so nit sure what ur complaining about lol.
Absolutely insane speeds!!
Very cool Dave. Thanks
Very interesting Dave that slot car set the biggest track I have ever seen
So much fun! Give it a Thumbs up. 👍
❤️❤️ I love this...reminds me of when I was a kid...had a track near me in Orange County California...haven’t seen this in years..but I remember back than..the controller connections were bare metal/copper...not sure...but my epic memories were the people with cheap controllers...with metal triggers...frying them in the connection posts...is that still a thing? I assume a universal connection has been established since than..as I am talking he mid 90’s since I have done slot cars
Oh my gosh, I haven’t seen these run in 20 years! I have two of those and nowhere to run them! Same chassis with that wonky gear mesh. Cool video!
Amazing stuff there
I have been here many times... very nice place.
Really good for parties too!
03:00 I used to race slot cars at Yagoona when I was a boy. The goo is placed on the rear tyres which are spongelike. Helps grip on the track but leaves a residue that the owners of the track has to clean off before it dries...
When these cars first came out, we were running the light chassis and the hex motors.. with full winged bodies - but we still had the orange and blue rear tires
Holly Crap that was fast even at about 1/2 the speed of the record time.
That car is "insane"... What a legend!
Mike's in Indianapolis, Indiana USA in 1968 was the bomb!
Love the action and the - dehwn u'ndah ehccent eyveen bettah !! Love you Aussiees FOH' EVAH !!!!!
Wow that slot cars are really fast. And thanks for showing the power supplies with the big caps and batteries. I think this is important to avoid that the competitors influence each other with ripples in the supply voltage.
I like hand cranked slot cars, which are no mains or batteries required at all. Basically the hand controllers have a crank handle driving a small generator or dynamo, and the faster you crank, the faster the car goes
Had a 4.2second car on a 220foot track.
Awesome fun.
Only cost $200
When you liked this you should check out a modified 1/12 pan Cars and 1/10 Touring Cars. they are crazy fast to and got to steer them around corners too. There is one in Templestowe Flat Track Racers.
Thats mental. Never seen a slot car go that fast !. Back in the 80's i had a Scalectrix 24hr system that had a timer and supposedly it would run day and night. Until a car came off the track that is.
Very nice
That a hella throwback
Holy crap - I used to race there as a teenager!
thanks Dave
In the States those hyper fast cars are called Wing Cars.
I've had the pleasure of running one a long time ago, I'm sure they're even faster today.
Takes full concentration to get into the rythm.
It has been awhile since I raced a slot car. These were popular in the 1960's. I got a slot car and track as a Christmas gift. This cheapie car was not the same as the type that was used at the hobby shop tracks. I ended up buying a used one for that track at the hobby shop. Chassis made of tubular brass and soldered together. Interest didn't last long, I was more interested in the model rockets. Google search shows 8 slot car tracks in my town.
when the copper is shown is because it wear out the aluminum plating, I saw that mesh in some coaxial cables.
FRRIKIN' AWESOME TRACK !!!! SHEEEE-AITS ME SILLY !!!! INCREDIBLE !!!
There is a place like that close to where I live in nj. It is called the Speed Zone. I took my Carrera cars there one time for something(I can't remember off hand) but when I showed the guy there my car he said, "We don't run those cars here." "Ours are different." Then he put this car on the track and ran it. OMG! It took about 5 seconds for it to go around the track which is about the same size as the one in your video. The track takes up the whole place with a space for repairs and sales. If I had to guess scale speed, they would probably come close to the land speed record.
THATS INSANE
Light weight + full aerodynamic = insanity
Wow I had a plastic set of road and slot cars as a kid...I did not know this is a areal thing with officianados and championships! COOL!
Suprised car is not carbon fiber and bldc powered like a modern rc race car, looks like state of the art 1950s
the weight penalty of the electronics would not justify the slight efficiency advantage of a BLDC motor, since there has to be electronics onboard for BLDC as you only get two electrical contacts on the track.
@@tmmtmm Even the motor is open frame to cut down on the weight
We have a very similar track here in Modesto Ca. They call it a hill climb. I stopped racing about ten years ago but I still have my cars and conrollers. I have a winged car with a group 27 motor. Back then it was one step under an open. I'm going to go back and see if I still like it.
To awesome! Memories flooding back! Open can motors..... hand built wire chassis... winged custom painted bodies....smell of wintergreen oil cleaning tires.... tubes of "tire bite" truing tires...... aweee yeahhh. Miss the good ol days.
Thanks for the memory explosion
i remember back in the day i had a one of them wing cars..had blueprinted motor (armature had been balanced)..and the chassis was made outta wire...just like this wingcar....and it cost less than $100...i thnk joe is pullin ya leg with the 1000$ car and 1000$ controller..(hell the controller is just a wiper contacting a copper coil)
thing would stick so good on corners..so fast... we also had a drag stip..everything from top fuelers to trike bikes
and we used the goo on the tyres back then...would stop the wheels from spinning, not keep it stuck to the track....the aero dynamics (especially on the wing cars) have alot to do with keeping them on the track..
most controllers in the pro scene are quite advanced electronic controllers with either BJT transistors and control for everything, or with a microcontroller and mosfets
Everything is funner, down under! 😃
2F caps!?! holy crap!!! 1kA is also crazy. I raced on-road RC cars in the 00s and they were hitting speeds of 120kmh+ at that time. I was hitting those speed with both nitro and electric. Battery technology was still pretty primitive though and I would only get a 15m run per charge and charges took 4-6 hours, so you either took a bag of batteries pre-charged with you, or you took a lot of breaks between runs. Nitro allowed you to run constantly (as long as you had fuel), but it got messy. Nitro also had a different power curve than electric, but still capable of hitting 120kmh at top end.
I used to put a long travel push button at the back of the chassis extend it before I put it on the track. It would slip into the gap and keep the back from swinging out.
we had a Bathurst race when Bathurst was on
It reminds me of a story I read about the Tech Model Railway Club at MIT about how many hackers hung out there.
I haven't seen those since back in the 60's
Awesome cool thumbs up
Buddy made motors for drag racing at a pro level, big value and big bets made great motors. Winding and balance time was a lot.
As a person whos done a fair bit of micro sized custom work, I can appreciate the amount of time that goes into making a motor like that...if I had known what people were willing to pay for them, I wouldve started building them lol
I didn't know there was a professional version of the "Carrera track" that we played around as a child with.
that slot car at the end is ridiculous
Very cool place
do a 2min tear down?
wow, biger than the set i had as a kid
way to go, cool hobby
That is seriously cool! Guys go and check out that Koford link! It's like high end Watch making for slot cars, no wonder those are so expensive.
Cool track but I total BS on the $600 motor and the $1000 controller
Oli I've seen guys spend that on them and that's USD.
Until China find there is a market for them and mass produce them
@@KarlUKmidlands ahah true but i'm guessing that if they actually do sell for that kind of money as Jon Kulas says, then it's because they're one off builds and therefore you're paying for their time and knowledge and i can see that getting up to $500 especially if there is a competitive race series
@@OliverHirstsLife Some of the high end 1/24 wing cars are built with titanium chassis designed in AutoCad, parts cut on a plasma CNC, and assembled using high temp braze systems used in the aircraft industry.
It's difficult to make a chassis light enough while remaining rigid enough to perform well and durable enough to take a few wall shots from a deslot at the end of a straight.
Just an unassembled chassis kit like that with NO electrics, wheels, tires, axles, bushings/bearings, guide flag, etc can run $400 by itself.
If you buy a Lexan body designed and painted by a well known designer, they can run $200 minimum.
At the high end of any hobby, the prices can get pretty outrageous but ask any pro, they'll tell you it makes a real difference between winning a national and being the king of your local club.
Samarium-cobalt magnets, sometimes multi-segment magnets, balanced armatures, ball bearings instead of plain bearings, aluminium alloy endbells, gold plated brush hoods, and quite a lot of careful alignment putting the motor together. Many of those top end motors are made by Koford Engineering who also supply the aerospace/defence industry, so they don't make anything cheap.
1:07, seems to me that the red track's contact strips have a worn-down mesh. (perhaps the red track was skipped during the last overhaul due to still being 'good'.)
We used to race HO slot cars went that fast on a track the same size at hot slots in garden city michigan in th 90s. $1,000 is ludicris! We had maybe $200 into them tops. All off shelf items these kind of slot cars The frame is hand made, the body is hand made, and the motor and controller was the only things that had to be sourced. Still not $1,000 if you build em yourself
Do you notice when a tyco etc power pack is used on a 2 lane, that the power is used/shared on both controllers? zapping the power back and forth. I made a few tracks where I broke the connection and gave each lane its own power pack using 2 power connection tracks, I per lane, am I making since? :P
Still have my trophy and cars from 1980's and 1990's.
Wish I could find an open frame near me. Northern Virginia
what are these inverted frontwheels for?
Wow I thought I had seen it all
I call absolute B.S. on the $600 motor and $1,000 controller.
It looks like your average $1 motor but while they are mass produced by robots this motor was likely precision crafted by a single human to meet very specific requirements, most of the $600 would be to pay the human that put in those hours of work. As for the controller I'm not sure what would make it cost that much. Maybe something similar, but at that cost why not spend an extra $100 to make it at least somewhat visually appealing?
Agree. My open motor is faster and was less than $150.00. Controller was also $300.00 and can run the hottest G7 wing cars. Apparently he way overpaid for everything. Video of my car as proof.
ruclips.net/video/4hYqt2PhoTg/видео.html
It Really Costs Much, But ONLY FOr The Slot Cars, If You Buy The SAME Motor For Different Purpose It Will Cost You 5 Bucks. And The Controler is Just a Few Mosfets With Solder And A Copper Wire, I Was In The Slot Cars And I Made It All MySelf, Not The Shasy And The Motor, But All Made Myself For Nothing, This Is STUPID, This IS To Separate The Kid Parents From They Money..
@@krisraps - We ALL Know That You Are Absolutely Full Of Bullshit, Simply Because You Cannot Type A Sentence Properly.
@@WaytooFastSpeed Geez that is quick!
Very nice.
this reminds me of gourmet food. The less you get the more it costs.
But the better it is