@@hawg427 No difference between the Isp & Cockblocker...Not sure? between the Isp I & II...Here's a video by Glenn fricker comparing the Isp G-string & his cock blocker... By Request: ISP Decimator G String vs C Blocker ruclips.net/video/7ZXRtsxE758/видео.html I'm also a ISP G-string user for many years now....!!!
@@hawg427 The G-String is a different version of the Decimator 2. The normal version of the Decimator 2 does not have the sidechain, so it can only gate one thing. HOWEVER, the Decimator 2 G-String is a sidechain, just like the Cock Blocker, so you can gate a pedal AND the amp with only one G-String. But to answer your original question, if you are comparing specifically the normal Decimator 2 vs the Decimator 1, the 2 lets you link two of them together, so you can have one in front, and one in the effects loop. Of course, why would you want to link two of them together, when you can just get a G-String version?
Have you ever checked out the Rowin Noise Killer Noise Gate? It’s a pretty affordable Noise Gate pedal and retails on amazon for $32.99 and used is even cheaper. It’s true bypass and also has a little switch to toggle between hard or soft effect noise reduction. It even has a full metal casing. I hear a lot of good things about it especially given how affordable it is.
banker1020 hey man! I would say if you want to get a noise gate, id either save or go to americanmusicsupppy.com they do payments and ship to you next day so get to play on your gear while paying for it! It’s the only reason I have a pedal board lol I’d say your best bet is gonna be the sentry for the budget gate but if you want the best, either the ISP G or the fortin Zuul
Yup, I'm sure it's a Zuul inside. It's not like Glenn has the attention span to make a pedal himself and I know he's "friend" with Fortin. But the lack of transparency on who made it is annoying.
CarcPazu i think he did it with the best of intentions. And to be fair, the construction of the cockblocker is pretty cool. It can go straight through the signal chain, as opposed to the zuul with the need of a bypass in front of it with the key input. But, other than that, i feel its the same thing. I dont want to talk down on glenn, and it is a badass looking pedal.
I just received mine yesterday and testing it today. Using with an ES-335 with my BYOC FET preamp in the Blocker In - Blocker Out jacks into a Marshall Astoria on the Gain channel. It's fucking GOOD! 10/10 (and folks it's not just for metal!) It works as in, IT WORKS - any tone you've got where you want to rip the noise right out of the equation, this thing kicks fucking ass
Worth upgrading from a Smart Gate? The Smart Gate is pretty good and has fine tweaking that's quite useful especially when switching between guitars with different pickup types.
Tell me about it. I use one on my bass rig because I'm using active pickups and high gain settings on my two preamp pedals (dp-03 and EHX Battalion) that hiss a lot if not controlled. I tried many different gates until I found the Smart Gate. Now all is well in doombassland.
Sorry for my all caps but IS ALMOST EVERYBODY FORGETTING THE TC ELECTRONIC SENTRY? It is at least as good, has much more options and is less than half the price. I'm not saying the cockblocker sucks (pun) but from the beginning I felt it was way overpriced and overhyped :/
There's a demo of Sentry vs. the ISP Decimator G String on a Malaysian channel. Ultimately I went with the Sentry, but it's a matter of preference. Do you want something that's just dead simple and works, but costs more, or something cheaper and more customizable, but potentially more time-consuming as a result? A coupon putting the Sentry at $100 made it a little easier to decide. Pretty sure it's also smaller and lighter. ruclips.net/video/EauY2W9Bw78/видео.html
I tried the TC Sentry, but it couldn't handle the level in the loop of my Marshall JVM410H. No matter what I did, the moment I switched to either OD1 or OD2 it started clipping hard and the overall volume level dropped. The MXR Smart Gate didn't have this issue, but it wasn't able to use the 4-cable method and thus allow me to use either cleans or high gain without cutting off the sound. I eventually picked up an ISP Decimator 2 G-String and that finally solved the problem; it can use the 4-cable method, can handle the level in my amp's loop, and works like a dream. That said, if I *hadn't* found the Decimator, I'd be strongly tempted to pick up the Cock Blocker.
I have to say that the house of Fricker outdid themselves. I’ve used the ISP Decimator, the Boss NS-2, the EXH Silencer, TC Iron Curtain & Sentry, MXR Noise Clamp, ZVex Loop Gate and the Rocktron Hush. The Cock Blocker is the best one I’ve ever owned, at least for my purposes. The only other one that I still have is the Boss NS-2 and I’ve modified it with the kit from Monte Allums. The NS-2 no longer has the tone suck. The CB is still my preference and the NS-2 is there for backup only.
Hey Fluff! Big fan of your channel! Any chance you could do a tutorial video about how to create this type of gating effect on the Axe Fx 3? Thanks for any consideration. Cheers!
Hmm.. I just grabbed a Pigtronix Gatekeeper. I'm still messing with it and not impressed or disappointed yet. I feel like my power supply might be an issue so I can't tell how I like it yet. I will be keeping this cockblocker noise gate on my radar though.
I preordered one, nice to have one pedal do the job of 2. I have an airs hades gate ultra just for that but I hate it, way too aggressive of a gate for me even with it turned all the down
Big fan of the channel Fluff! Question... have you found preferred settings for the noise gate in the Axe FX 3? Been having trouble getting a good balance for rhythm and lead. Any input you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I’m not sure if my 6505+ is defective or needs new tubes but my effects loop is not 100% serial. Even if i turn the post volume all the way down and mute inside the effects loop, i still get bleed thru. The only way I can mute my signal is before the preamp. Has anyone else seen this issue with a Peavey?
Dude, I see this is no longer available (today is 3/11/2020). Are there some other noise gates you recommend? Or better question is are there noise gates that you dislike?
Is it better than the MXR smartgate? I'm in the market for a gate pedal at the moment. Also thinking of getting a precision drive since it's got a built in gate as well.
Samuel Carter it takes some playing with to get where you like it. It depends on how agressive your pickups are. But once i got mine dialed in im happy with it! I have high output and noisy guitars if you’re curious i have my silencer set to: release 1 oclock, reduction 11, thresh 1.5 oclock ish. $70 new or about $50 used its pretty solid and has a buil in effects loop. Hope this helps
so mine cuts my volumes in half when i get to the 9 o clock position and if i go to 12 it basically just kills my signal totally? do i have it hooked up wrong? or did i get a dud?
I would like to see how this handles a dimed Boss HM2 into a dimed JCM800 with the master volume up high enough for a gig that only has a vocal PA with a drummer who is not a light handed wuss. That, to me, would really showcase whether this pedal can actually hang or not.
Lol, it doesn't care how dimed anything is...it uses your DI guitar signal to run the gate, which is sitting directly in front of the power section. It just clamps a line level signal in the loop...no matter how dimed anything is.
@@rickfeith6372 okay, but what happens when you have it go guitar>dimed HM2>cockblock>cranked jcm800? It may kill the noise but will it suck out the tone is what I am wondering? For the price, I would like to think this has no tone suck in any setting, but this test does not clarify that for me.
Yeah...the actual gate sits in the loop, the trigger is your DI guitar signal. Its called a side chain, and its also how you should hook up a tuner if possible.
@@The_Absurdistt When I ordered mine Wellington said it would take about 3 months to get to me, and that was November. Yours will probably arrive soon. A bit late but hopefully soon. Mine wont arrive til around February.
So far I've seen 2 vids on this pedal and it's great. And I have to mention that tour valentine is still one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard. I wish music man would let you release it as an artist model
Dude do you feel jipped being like the seventh or eighth Utuber to demo this pedal? That means, in their view, you are only the 9th most important utuber to snag...? I'll give you this, though - it looks really good 😎👍 Edit: It seems I'm waaay out of the loop here on this one, seeings I've got no idea about what this Glen bit is all about. So I guess my burn missed the mark. Oh well, I'll getcha next time!! 😀
@@RiffsAndBeards hi, I can't find this for sale anymore. Is it discontinued? Also, could you please guide me to a video showing the 4 cable method of connecting ( I bought a stone deaf reaper ) . It has this same connection option but I can't find a video showing how to connect this type of gate on a pedalboard where you have the usual distortion, overdrive, modulation and time based effects. I was told that I should plug distortion, overdrive into the gate and other effects into the effects loop of my amp? But have no idea how.
That’s actually not to bad considering it’s the same price as the Fortin ZUUL, with out needing a separate pedal to use it at its full potential. Still pricey but potentially cheaper then it’s competitor
“Does not require reaper.” 🤣
Andy Green 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅
Linux only ? 🤣
Fluff got me good with this one😂
This is definitely in his top 5 vids ever. It was the perfect storm simply because of Glen.
Fuck you Glen.
I literally laughed out loud at that.
“Unlike Glenn, this doesn’t need reaper”
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Why use a noise gate when you can violently jerk the instrument cable out of your amp when you're not playing?
Why not just play metal with acoustic guitar trio
just pull out the house breaker
you could also sit on your couch and look at the wall...that should make less loise
guess it can kill the hum if your using a strat and other noise not needed
Riffs: yes
Gear: yes
Beards: NO
never heard you talk about beards!!
You say that like 2 outta 3 is a bad thing
His beard is a hack job. My balls have a better beard than him.
One time i farded
Have you found the hidden knob and switch inside the pedal yet like Gear Gods did?
“Even a bass player can understand”. Fluff you’re a menace.
Well, that's pretty much what a manufacturer (i.e. Glenn Fricker) states for this pedal. So that's not on Fluff's behalf really
Григорий Табакаев ah okay. I guess that rings true for what I know of Glenn haha
Glen even added that on this pedal's manual.
It would make a drummers head explode
The 4 cable method changed my life. So many years spent using a NG with just the 2 cable method that I can't get back lol. Great review!
I have used the ISP Decimator II for years now. Given the choice, I still recommend the Decimator.
Yes, I have had the Decimator G String for over 8 yrs and love it. I wonder how much difference there is between the I and the 2?
@@hawg427 No difference between the Isp & Cockblocker...Not sure? between the Isp I & II...Here's a video by Glenn fricker comparing the Isp G-string & his cock blocker... By Request: ISP Decimator G String vs C Blocker ruclips.net/video/7ZXRtsxE758/видео.html I'm also a ISP G-string user for many years now....!!!
@@hawg427 The G-String is a different version of the Decimator 2. The normal version of the Decimator 2 does not have the sidechain, so it can only gate one thing. HOWEVER, the Decimator 2 G-String is a sidechain, just like the Cock Blocker, so you can gate a pedal AND the amp with only one G-String. But to answer your original question, if you are comparing specifically the normal Decimator 2 vs the Decimator 1, the 2 lets you link two of them together, so you can have one in front, and one in the effects loop. Of course, why would you want to link two of them together, when you can just get a G-String version?
Anyone who has ever watched one of Glenn’s videos will know that he would definitely want your honest take on it.
"unlike Glen this does not require Reaper"
Goddamn man you hit it on the head.
I'm still happy with my ISPTechnologies Decimator G String, still the best most aggressive IMHO.
Chops notes off like a BoO record 😂
Have you ever checked out the Rowin Noise Killer Noise Gate? It’s a pretty affordable Noise Gate pedal and retails on amazon for $32.99 and used is even cheaper. It’s true bypass and also has a little switch to toggle between hard or soft effect noise reduction. It even has a full metal casing. I hear a lot of good things about it especially given how affordable it is.
banker1020 hey man! I would say if you want to get a noise gate, id either save or go to americanmusicsupppy.com they do payments and ship to you next day so get to play on your gear while paying for it! It’s the only reason I have a pedal board lol I’d say your best bet is gonna be the sentry for the budget gate but if you want the best, either the ISP G or the fortin Zuul
RUclipsrs are a big happy family...
Id like to see a shootout with the blocker and the fortin zuul
Cybil it’s probably if not definitely the same circuit.
fleshbomb29 i think so too
Yup, I'm sure it's a Zuul inside. It's not like Glenn has the attention span to make a pedal himself and I know he's "friend" with Fortin. But the lack of transparency on who made it is annoying.
CarcPazu i think he did it with the best of intentions. And to be fair, the construction of the cockblocker is pretty cool. It can go straight through the signal chain, as opposed to the zuul with the need of a bypass in front of it with the key input. But, other than that, i feel its the same thing. I dont want to talk down on glenn, and it is a badass looking pedal.
And aris effects hades gate
I just received mine yesterday and testing it today. Using with an ES-335 with my BYOC FET preamp in the Blocker In - Blocker Out jacks into a Marshall Astoria on the Gain channel. It's fucking GOOD! 10/10 (and folks it's not just for metal!) It works as in, IT WORKS - any tone you've got where you want to rip the noise right out of the equation, this thing kicks fucking ass
Worth upgrading from a Smart Gate? The Smart Gate is pretty good and has fine tweaking that's quite useful especially when switching between guitars with different pickup types.
Tell me about it. I use one on my bass rig because I'm using active pickups and high gain settings on my two preamp pedals (dp-03 and EHX Battalion) that hiss a lot if not controlled. I tried many different gates until I found the Smart Gate. Now all is well in doombassland.
I hear tell of vocal synth pedal that makes you speak the Queen's English. It's called the Cockney Blocker.
Wut ya say m8?
*h0W DaR3 y0U In5ULt R33puR*
I actually legitimately use Reaper as my main DAW because of both Glenn AND YOU, and I still love it.
Did you get version 6.01 yet? It's got some cool new features.
Wonder when Glenn is doing an update on this pedal. He is supposed to get a tattoo if he sells a thousand.
Sorry for my all caps but IS ALMOST EVERYBODY FORGETTING THE TC ELECTRONIC SENTRY?
It is at least as good, has much more options and is less than half the price.
I'm not saying the cockblocker sucks (pun) but from the beginning I felt it was way overpriced and overhyped :/
I agree. The Sentry is the best gate I've used, especially for the 4 cable method. It gets no love.
I'm gonna get a sentry
Yes.. using SENTRY for two years now and I can't be happier
There's a demo of Sentry vs. the ISP Decimator G String on a Malaysian channel. Ultimately I went with the Sentry, but it's a matter of preference. Do you want something that's just dead simple and works, but costs more, or something cheaper and more customizable, but potentially more time-consuming as a result? A coupon putting the Sentry at $100 made it a little easier to decide. Pretty sure it's also smaller and lighter.
ruclips.net/video/EauY2W9Bw78/видео.html
I tried the TC Sentry, but it couldn't handle the level in the loop of my Marshall JVM410H. No matter what I did, the moment I switched to either OD1 or OD2 it started clipping hard and the overall volume level dropped. The MXR Smart Gate didn't have this issue, but it wasn't able to use the 4-cable method and thus allow me to use either cleans or high gain without cutting off the sound. I eventually picked up an ISP Decimator 2 G-String and that finally solved the problem; it can use the 4-cable method, can handle the level in my amp's loop, and works like a dream. That said, if I *hadn't* found the Decimator, I'd be strongly tempted to pick up the Cock Blocker.
Can I just use it by plugging my guitar into the side and another cable going into my amp on the other side? Or I have to use the top ones.
I have to say that the house of Fricker outdid themselves. I’ve used the ISP Decimator, the Boss NS-2, the EXH Silencer, TC Iron Curtain & Sentry, MXR Noise Clamp, ZVex Loop Gate and the Rocktron Hush. The Cock Blocker is the best one I’ve ever owned, at least for my purposes. The only other one that I still have is the Boss NS-2 and I’ve modified it with the kit from Monte Allums. The NS-2 no longer has the tone suck. The CB is still my preference and the NS-2 is there for backup only.
The closed captioning on RUclips just rebranded this channel. "Today, on Our Spirits In Gear".
Hey Fluff! Big fan of your channel!
Any chance you could do a tutorial video about how to create this type of gating effect on the Axe Fx 3? Thanks for any consideration. Cheers!
It seems like a lot of these one knob dual use effects loops are the new pedal craze. Along with Highwind as a company.
Cool video. I always enjoy them. Have a great day.
But how does it sound with a Line6?
Digital 😂
*facepalm*
@@PooNinja Uhhhh. Mr. Roboto?
Damn, anyone know where to pick one up? Looks like they aren’t available anymore
The TC E Sentry does the same thing across 3 bands, with a separate knob for gate attack too, no?
Loved 2 have that just looked on their webpage not making it anymore what a shame if anyone was selling I would probably buy it
I would love to hear this compared to the Fortin Zuul
What Pickups were you using in this video?
That Reaper joke got me...
Now I'm going to load Reaper.
Hmm.. I just grabbed a Pigtronix Gatekeeper. I'm still messing with it and not impressed or disappointed yet. I feel like my power supply might be an issue so I can't tell how I like it yet.
I will be keeping this cockblocker noise gate on my radar though.
I preordered one, nice to have one pedal do the job of 2. I have an airs hades gate ultra just for that but I hate it, way too aggressive of a gate for me even with it turned all the down
When its turned up it sounds like Veil of Maya
Big fan of the channel Fluff! Question... have you found preferred settings for the noise gate in the Axe FX 3? Been having trouble getting a good balance for rhythm and lead. Any input you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Gonna need a noise gate shootout for that price point lmao
Just received #6 today. Neat pedal.
I believe you Fluff. You don't lie to me.
Still waiting for mine to come in the mail....I'm not sure when
RussMC mine just cleared customs in the Czech Republic. So, soon....ish.
Sick V!!!
I love my Alexi Laiho ESP. It's a picture from google...but I have the guitar.
@@IWearShaqs Ah Cool, I know the Alexi Jackson V with the green stripe and Skull
@@IWearShaqs Lol, mine's a pic from Google too but I have the guitar! {;o)
I’m not sure if my 6505+ is defective or needs new tubes but my effects loop is not 100% serial. Even if i turn the post volume all the way down and mute inside the effects loop, i still get bleed thru. The only way I can mute my signal is before the preamp. Has anyone else seen this issue with a Peavey?
Dude, I see this is no longer available (today is 3/11/2020). Are there some other noise gates you recommend? Or better question is are there noise gates that you dislike?
Does not require reaper. Hahaa that made me laugh and feel better of all day long.
The Fortin ZUUL is pretty darn great too
Good stuff.
Is it better than the MXR smartgate? I'm in the market for a gate pedal at the moment. Also thinking of getting a precision drive since it's got a built in gate as well.
How does it differ from a tc sentry?
Why no more preorders? Will they sell them again?
aaannddd sold
I wish he was doing a 2nd run. I know he extended it from 500 to 1000 units, but that doesn't mean I can afford one this year. :(
I'm happy with the EH Silencer that I got for 40 bucks
How fast does it cut off and how cleanly?
Samuel Carter it takes some playing with to get where you like it. It depends on how agressive your pickups are. But once i got mine dialed in im happy with it! I have high output and noisy guitars if you’re curious i have my silencer set to: release 1 oclock, reduction 11, thresh 1.5 oclock ish. $70 new or about $50 used its pretty solid and has a buil in effects loop. Hope this helps
At 04:25 "Get Back!" 🤣
Anybody have any comparisons from this to the airis noise gate? Those 2 have to be the best ones in the market
$210?!?!?! Fuck that! I'll stick with the ISP Decimator or I'll pay $10 more for the Precision Drive.
I wonder what kind of setup you need to have where that max setting is usable?
This maybe? LOL: orangeamps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Orange-Wall-1.jpg
William Shapiro a guitar running super high gain. Maybe active pickups with a 20 DB emg afterburner.
I can't believe you didn't keep the Invective...
Its a Decimator G String with a different switch. I do like the setup better, but its just like the G string.
Hard to reinvent perfection (or close to it). But yeah if someones shopping for a gate and things the names cool, not a bad deal.
How does this compare to the Zuul?
so mine cuts my volumes in half when i get to the 9 o clock position and if i go to 12 it basically just kills my signal totally? do i have it hooked up wrong? or did i get a dud?
Ok... but how does it stack up against the ISP decimators. They are king as far as I'm concerned. What makes these different or better than those?
$220?! Yikes.
Were can i find 1 now?
You could use it full on as an effect.
I would like to see how this handles a dimed Boss HM2 into a dimed JCM800 with the master volume up high enough for a gig that only has a vocal PA with a drummer who is not a light handed wuss. That, to me, would really showcase whether this pedal can actually hang or not.
Lol, it doesn't care how dimed anything is...it uses your DI guitar signal to run the gate, which is sitting directly in front of the power section. It just clamps a line level signal in the loop...no matter how dimed anything is.
@@rickfeith6372 okay, but what happens when you have it go guitar>dimed HM2>cockblock>cranked jcm800? It may kill the noise but will it suck out the tone is what I am wondering? For the price, I would like to think this has no tone suck in any setting, but this test does not clarify that for me.
You're an early bird huh?
So the guitar goes thru a trigger pad and the gate goes thru the efx loop?
Yeah...the actual gate sits in the loop, the trigger is your DI guitar signal. Its called a side chain, and its also how you should hook up a tuner if possible.
Many reviews aready out there, but mine still hasn't arrived... Crom's balls!
Obsidian s when have you ordered it?
@@toolspiral8421 September 22. No response from "customer support."
@@The_Absurdistt When I ordered mine Wellington said it would take about 3 months to get to me, and that was November. Yours will probably arrive soon. A bit late but hopefully soon. Mine wont arrive til around February.
@@The_Absurdistt same, they havent replied to me either.
I can wait, I'm sure production is cranking them out as best as they can during the holidays. It would be nice to receive an email or update tho.
4:15 djad rock
Better than ISP G string?
So far I've seen 2 vids on this pedal and it's great. And I have to mention that tour valentine is still one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard. I wish music man would let you release it as an artist model
Just call the EBMM Custom Shop 🤣
Ohh yeah...it doesn't exist
Bro could you compare this noise gate to the Fortin noise gate??
Personally I prefer the the Boss suppressor
That tone sounds like crushing a bag of Doritos.
HEY DAD
Is this pedal banned in Reverb?
GLEN !!!!!!! Wait... FLUFF !!!
/w\CRAIN/w\
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS lol
Didn’t you say the TC Electronic Sentry was the best one? 🤔
Its the best till you find something better. Like everything in life.
sparkplug1018 just how MXR smart gate was the best and before that the ISP... lol
@@josuesamaniego182 Pretty much.
Smart gate or sentry?
Dino from Fear Factory chop off!
The rowin gate is like 20 bucks and is better than the isp decimator imo.
Compare this with a NS2 and ISP G-String
Glenn Fricker did a shootout of this against the NS2 and the Cock Blocker won out by not fading notes too early or changing tone.
He also did the G-string. Both seemed pretty fair.
If this thing doesn't have a fade out is really a deal breaker to me.
Dude do you feel jipped being like the seventh or eighth Utuber to demo this pedal? That means, in their view, you are only the 9th most important utuber to snag...? I'll give you this, though - it looks really good 😎👍
Edit: It seems I'm waaay out of the loop here on this one, seeings I've got no idea about what this Glen bit is all about.
So I guess my burn missed the mark. Oh well, I'll getcha next time!! 😀
Its the thought that counts, right?
@@RiffsAndBeards hi, I can't find this for sale anymore. Is it discontinued?
Also, could you please guide me to a video showing the 4 cable method of connecting ( I bought a stone deaf reaper ) . It has this same connection option but I can't find a video showing how to connect this type of gate on a pedalboard where you have the usual distortion, overdrive, modulation and time based effects. I was told that I should plug distortion, overdrive into the gate and other effects into the effects loop of my amp? But have no idea how.
Is Spectre Media Group Glenn Fricker's company?
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Yes, he also has a stake in Lancaster Audio.
Oh I see, y'all just gonna sell ya'boi's pedal now? (Wink cough GearGod's cough Wink)
Open it up and reveal the extra 2 settings!
I was hoping you would use over pedals with it....But ya didn't.
*other.
Never met a Stuwdee musician before...
Fortin
Wait, it takes a battery? I thought it didn't. Interesting...
Doesn't matter if you can't get it.
Hi Fluff, I bought a "cock blocker" to help support Glenn (yet to get pedal). When are you releasing the "Fluff Muff" Pedal? I'm in!
Get the Fortin Zuul for $6 more
What's really great about this pedal is you can't buy it anymore.
Who's the manufacturer?
Mi Pe hopefully a bunch of disgruntled bass players
$220 for a one knob noise gate with little versatility? Yikes.
Yeah. No thanks.
The ISP G-String should do the same.
That’s actually not to bad considering it’s the same price as the Fortin ZUUL, with out needing a separate pedal to use it at its full potential. Still pricey but potentially cheaper then it’s competitor
@@Patrick-fv6yh But doesn't the Zuul also have a loop input?
@@ayeapprove it doesn't have a guitar out
Why am i seeing this vid again? Can't even buy the damn think anyway !
suppp
Beard's lookin ragged, bro
If you're seeing this get the Guptecch sun