I found out what Ableton was in 2012 when I looked up "how to chop vocals like skrillex" on youtube. To hear my voice being chopped in an official video WITH native pitch correction is the most full circle moment possible!
Dear Ableton Team, As a long-time fan of Live, I’d love to see ARA support implemented in a future update. It would greatly enhance workflows with tools like Melodyne and VocAlign. Maybe it’s something planned for 12.5? Fingers crossed! 😊 Thanks for continuing to innovate with Live.
You guys have done and outstaying job with this new update. Auto Shift creation opportunities seem endless and every single new update seems very usefull. Now I do speak for the half of the community who basically uses Ableton as our only DAW. ARA integration is essential for increasing users workflow speed however this update has made Live 12 worth every penny. Keep pushing forward guys, not everyone in the community is toxic and ungrateful for what you guys do.
@@patkelly8309 not an expert but ARA basically allows you too use Melodyne and Vocal Align without having to reroute the audio into the channel to then record it and bounce it back out. In essence you would be able to just drop your vocals in, put vocal align on the channel and make your edit right on the channel. Really helps with workflow, creative on the spot and working with artist since we can make the vocals are perfect without having to stop the flow.
@@aeko well ofc we know that, but that is not real „bounce in place“ Freezing and flattening always requires freezing the whole track and if you want to have mixed audio and midi, you‘ll have to create an audio track additionally to the midi track. Other daws do that different. Bitwig for example just lets you put audio files into midi tracks and calls them hybrid tracks. That way they can have proper bounce in place.
Thanks for update. Now we have great midi tools but audio editing is still... For example built in clipgain on audio track in arrangement view. Second where is ARA2?
I remember upgrading from live 9 to live 10 and going back to 9, because some of the most basic click functions were altered and I could NEVER, despite effort, get used to it. Drove me bongers. It was too bad too, I miss groups inside of groups especially. Big up. It is absolutely amazing what you guys have done. Congratulations.
Graphic pitch correction, dry wet for all effects and plugins, Midi mappable shortcuts (like undo, add track) and autoarm as menu option - and Ableton is perfect!
You can already do the dry wet by grouping the device and having a dry and a wet channel. I like using the cpfade mfl device so I can keep a constant volume when crossfading between the two. It's not as convenient as it being automatic but it's still pretty great
Still waiting for; adjust the length and fades of multiple audio clips in the same channel at once. For example, if you (or someone else) made drums in audio, youd be able to: Highlight all, drag a clips length and they all adjust together. Its a basic editing feature Ableton still does not support. FL has this. Cubase has this. Logic has this.
Nice to see major updates and innovation coming from Ableton these days. I feel like Ableton had been stagnating pre V12 by only adding minor features every few years. I feel the competition by other DAW's like Bitwig have really pushed Ableton to innovate. Everyone wins from healthy competition, without it there's no reason to improve and devs become complacent. Keep up the momentum!
Nice update. 1 thing I've been waiting for in Ableton is multiple sidechain inputs on a single plugin, like multiband compression or a dynamic eq to sidechain different bands to different inputs. Would help a lot with workflow and less phase issues from splitting bands with an audio effect rack. I know there are ways around this, but it wouldn't be as effective with multiple sidechain inputs.
Nice, definitely gotta get back into Live! I wonder, will it be possible to get a 16-pitch mode like on Move, on the Push 2? There are a lot of kits with melodic elements that aren't really too useful atm unless you convert them to sampler tracks.
Dope! all nice features to have! i wonder will we ever see a native step-sequencer? i know we already have drum rack but a step sequencer would be nice to see :)
Ableton, please upgrade the simpler and then especially the slice mode where you can edit indivual chops. Also a function where you can separate the sample by drums, vocals, bass and instrument, like Serato recently did. And a button where you can play the sample!
There's a workaround for this: - Create a new midi track - Place a Live effect that has sidechaining (e.g. compressor) on the new midi track - Click the sidechain toggle button to reveal the sidechain controls - With sidechain enabled, select your group as the audio source (and turn off the EQ) - Enable sidechain listen (the button with the headphones symbol) - Create an empty midi clip on the timeline long enough to cover everything you wish to record from the group - Right-click on your midi channel and click "Freeze and Flatten Track" You will have effectively bounced your group down to audio, hope this helps!
Great stuff. My main future request would be a UI one. Can you enable all the tools to be able to 'pop-out' and be resizable to fit a monitor screen - rather than having to work in a tiny space all the time :) Thanks.
Thank you! This is all great and useful. Nevertheless, we need ARA, bounce in place and some other already suggested features for Live to become a fully professional DAW. Please!!
Nice new features. Have you updated your plugin delay compensation to report transport offset? Can I use Shaperbox without having to worry about latency from earlier plugins? No? Then I'm sticking with Bitwig.
No matter what you add to Live 12 I cannot use it unless you fix (or give the option of fixing) the browser back to how it was in A11. A BROWSER is for BROWSING, not targeted searches. Bring back the folders view of A11! Sticking to A11 until they fix a feature that ruins the program completely.
If you have push just hold shift and press the pad and all the color options pop up. If you don't, just unfold the drum rack on the mixer track, right click on the header of pad/track you want to change and presto choose color.
You could upgrade the limiter further by doing emulations (like with your filter) of classic limiting as found on DBX, 1176 and other types of units. I'd also like to see Reverb upgraded to encompass emulations of classic Lexicon and other units from the 80s and 90s, even the old Zoom 12xx series which had lovely dark, ugly reverbs. I would upgrade to this but my ageing laptop will struggle. I'm still on 9 for this reason. Hopefully at some point I can build a new PC and upgrade.
Would be nice if we could get a command to select and open individual plugins. Also, the option to press a command to shuffle through plugin windows like in Logic
people are always banging on about this; I look up what it is and it's a super specialized task requires a complex algorithm ; buy a specialized tool that does just that why do you expect a daw to do that? (not even getting into why you'd do want to do that)
how do you get the global groove amount to display at the top next to time sig/metro displays? Mine doesn't although it's funny because I had this exact groove set up in my default set already. The button to auto load the groove into clips is excellent.
Hi there, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The groove global amount doesn't show up in the bar at the top of the screen until you have a clip selected with the groove already applying to it. Try it out and see if it shows up! Thanks, Ableton
I switched from FL studio a year ago and I dont regret it. The only things that would make my Ableton workflow perfect would be a bounce in place option and Bitwig style audio/midi hybrid tracks. And maybe specral effects like Bitwig too 😅 Bitwig doesnt have Max 4 Live or the midi effects so thats a big reason why i stay
very nice! but still the layout on the side for vst's, sample's, effects and instruments is a mess. you keep searching for stuff. maybe an overhaul that makes systemizing better would be nice.
Agreed. It’s tempting me back but I want to know how the performance is. Too many crashes and a general cpu hog. Got an m1max that runs other daws like butter. Iv never even reached any limits but ableton 11 for some reason just doesn’t want to be stable on it.
@@NakulKrishna surprised by how many say Ableton crashes often, I used it practically every day for a month and not one crash, and I tend to push my computer to the limit re: space on the harddisk all the time. This was the Ableton 12 trial btw.
Nice upgrades, but when do you finally fix the major latency issues and when do you upgrade tools like EQ8 and add oversampling on devices like auto filter, we live in 2024, filter cramping should 't be a thing anymore
A cool and standalone feature would be … the option to route tracks or sounds to multiple Audio interfaces . Example would be your primary interface and a midi keyboard with an audio interface…. There are time I wanna route a piano or unique sound to my MX49 while percussion and melodic Rhythms play through my interface
On a Mac, yes. Google "how to create aggregate audio device". I do this all the time with a pioneer V-10 and a focusrite 4i4. That way I have a couple inputs to use in addition to the available channels to output on with the V-10. Same with an A+H K2 and the same 4i4.
Timecode based markers and clips, please. Midi Tempo track export... cc automation in arrangement view... some basic features for film music production please... it is just pain to work with video production...
I found out what Ableton was in 2012 when I looked up "how to chop vocals like skrillex" on youtube. To hear my voice being chopped in an official video WITH native pitch correction is the most full circle moment possible!
classiccccc
fuck yeah!
Chuck Sutton the fucking goat!
Dude congrats I been producing since then and non one knows
SAME lmao
Why is no one talking about the undo history?? It brought me to tears!! 😭
Cos it's not new
@@mufcmusic8514 ah my bad. I'm not really updated when it comes to beta versions
Dear Ableton Team,
As a long-time fan of Live, I’d love to see ARA support implemented in a future update. It would greatly enhance workflows with tools like Melodyne and VocAlign.
Maybe it’s something planned for 12.5? Fingers crossed! 😊
Thanks for continuing to innovate with Live.
Seconded!
That glissando on MPE feature is super cool. It's like having a strings quartet playing legatos.
You guys have done and outstaying job with this new update. Auto Shift creation opportunities seem endless and every single new update seems very usefull. Now I do speak for the half of the community who basically uses Ableton as our only DAW. ARA integration is essential for increasing users workflow speed however this update has made Live 12 worth every penny. Keep pushing forward guys, not everyone in the community is toxic and ungrateful for what you guys do.
What is ARA please?
@@patkelly8309 not an expert but ARA basically allows you too use Melodyne and Vocal Align without having to reroute the audio into the channel to then record it and bounce it back out. In essence you would be able to just drop your vocals in, put vocal align on the channel and make your edit right on the channel. Really helps with workflow, creative on the spot and working with artist since we can make the vocals are perfect without having to stop the flow.
@@patkelly8309it basically allows you to sync the audio in the arrangement view with Melodyne, so it updates automatically as you edit
@@patkelly8309 Im really debating on getting another DAW just for that feat but I am an Ableton fan boy LOL. I really love this DAW.
Please this
I've missed the global groove slider at the top since Live 7!!! Great to see it back (:
THANK YOU FOR UNDO HISTORY!!!
Can't tell you how many times i've been hitting ctrl z blindly to hopefully see when the change happened
Nice update. Can we got a proper ‘bounce in place’ implementation next? ❤
YES PLEASE
There's a max4live device that does this, called BiP
Right-click clip or track > click 'Freeze and Flatten Track'
@@aeko yep
@@aeko well ofc we know that, but that is not real „bounce in place“
Freezing and flattening always requires freezing the whole track and if you want to have mixed audio and midi, you‘ll have to create an audio track additionally to the midi track.
Other daws do that different. Bitwig for example just lets you put audio files into midi tracks and calls them hybrid tracks. That way they can have proper bounce in place.
Being able to undo only a single step further down in the undo history would be very cool for a future update
Thanks for update. Now we have great midi tools but audio editing is still... For example built in clipgain on audio track in arrangement view. Second where is ARA2?
I remember upgrading from live 9 to live 10 and going back to 9, because some of the most basic click functions were altered and I could NEVER, despite effort, get used to it. Drove me bongers. It was too bad too, I miss groups inside of groups especially.
Big up. It is absolutely amazing what you guys have done. Congratulations.
ARA2 when
this, @ableton
I think they are working on a built in melodyne feature
Your music WON'T SUCK When?
Lmao @@joeysaturday3420
Omg ARA in Ableton would be amazing 🔥🙏
ELPHNT, your videos are so smooth. You cover so much, but sound so relaxed, making it easy to absorb. Thanks!
Amazing updates!
Love that you overhauled the limiter!
damn. i've been wanting some of these features for like a decade. this is illllll
The MPE midi transformations are super cool - great update!
Don’t think iv ever seen that kind of stuff anywhere. It’s damn cool
Loving this, thank you Ableton just one request: .... ARA support!!
I love ableton ♥️🔥 But we need ARA2 support, clip gain adjust directly from clip, freeze groups.
Yes 🙏🏼
@contraspower6302 BUT your music will still suck
Yes this!!!
omg this is awesome. now all u guys need is.... ARA SUPPORT!! :)
Graphic pitch correction, dry wet for all effects and plugins, Midi mappable shortcuts (like undo, add track) and autoarm as menu option - and Ableton is perfect!
You can already do the dry wet by grouping the device and having a dry and a wet channel. I like using the cpfade mfl device so I can keep a constant volume when crossfading between the two. It's not as convenient as it being automatic but it's still pretty great
@M_orcan I know, I hate using these self made dry/wet racks, such unnecessary workflow killer! Why a workaround for such an important feature...?
Option in the settings when clicked to bypass the plugin, the plugin delay was also disabled.
@Ultraskill23 You can freeze groups, there's a RUclips video on how to set it up, very easy.
Great work on this update!
Still waiting for; adjust the length and fades of multiple audio clips in the same channel at once.
For example, if you (or someone else) made drums in audio, youd be able to: Highlight all, drag a clips length and they all adjust together.
Its a basic editing feature Ableton still does not support.
FL has this.
Cubase has this.
Logic has this.
Nice to see major updates and innovation coming from Ableton these days. I feel like Ableton had been stagnating pre V12 by only adding minor features every few years. I feel the competition by other DAW's like Bitwig have really pushed Ableton to innovate. Everyone wins from healthy competition, without it there's no reason to improve and devs become complacent. Keep up the momentum!
Nice update. 1 thing I've been waiting for in Ableton is multiple sidechain inputs on a single plugin, like multiband compression or a dynamic eq to sidechain different bands to different inputs. Would help a lot with workflow and less phase issues from splitting bands with an audio effect rack. I know there are ways around this, but it wouldn't be as effective with multiple sidechain inputs.
Nice, definitely gotta get back into Live! I wonder, will it be possible to get a 16-pitch mode like on Move, on the Push 2? There are a lot of kits with melodic elements that aren't really too useful atm unless you convert them to sampler tracks.
Great update but.. on my wish list is still the dynamic function of EQ8
Yes please.
and oversampling on the auto filter!
Dope! all nice features to have! i wonder will we ever see a native step-sequencer? i know we already have drum rack but a step sequencer would be nice to see :)
Some of these new functions are things that I actually wished for in the past. I AM REINVIGORATED.
Ableton, please upgrade the simpler and then especially the slice mode where you can edit indivual chops.
Also a function where you can separate the sample by drums, vocals, bass and instrument, like Serato recently did.
And a button where you can play the sample!
+1
What would you change about the slicing?
@@Triames lazy chopping method. theres a max4live plugin that does this though
It's called AZ Labs Pad Slicing Mode
@@Triames ?
Like I just said..
Also, a button where you can play the sample
@@AnUglyBarnacle called?
Incredibly thankful for the Ableton team! This software is a deep well to reach into and it only keeps getting more refined each udpate. ❤
You guys are amazing! All of these are superb updates!
The glissando option is an absolute game changer
Please freeze and flatten for groups
There's a workaround for this:
- Create a new midi track
- Place a Live effect that has sidechaining (e.g. compressor) on the new midi track
- Click the sidechain toggle button to reveal the sidechain controls
- With sidechain enabled, select your group as the audio source (and turn off the EQ)
- Enable sidechain listen (the button with the headphones symbol)
- Create an empty midi clip on the timeline long enough to cover everything you wish to record from the group
- Right-click on your midi channel and click "Freeze and Flatten Track"
You will have effectively bounced your group down to audio, hope this helps!
@@Beer4759 actual arcane live knowledge
@@afkbees Haha yeah, been using Ableton since Live 8, you learn a few tricks 😛
exactly. all this bollocks and they still can’t work out how to let us bounce multiple tracks to audio like every other daw can do
@@randompianist8359 at least bouncing is convenient and quick, unlike FL.
Great stuff. My main future request would be a UI one. Can you enable all the tools to be able to 'pop-out' and be resizable to fit a monitor screen - rather than having to work in a tiny space all the time :) Thanks.
NO :D
@greim3516 Meaning what?
Autoshift looks really kool. Sounds good on that vocal sample.
Thank you! This is all great and useful. Nevertheless, we need ARA, bounce in place and some other already suggested features for Live to become a fully professional DAW. Please!!
Great video, def upgrading to 12 now
Can’t wait to see what music comes out using these tools
another well done update flawless with every update! keep it up!
I just upgraded from Live suite 10 to live suit 12 and I'm blown away with the new features
Nice new features. Have you updated your plugin delay compensation to report transport offset? Can I use Shaperbox without having to worry about latency from earlier plugins? No? Then I'm sticking with Bitwig.
do the midi samples at 3:25 come with 12? If so what are they called? thx!
Push 3 standalone arrangement view, pretty please !! 🙏 🙏🙏
Saturator sounds incredible and so does Abletune!
Please, make usable mixer with ability to see inserts on chanels. It is still pain to mix in Live.
The new limiter sounds awesome. No need for fabfilter in this department anymore.
Not at all...this one miss some important features
whew i almost bought fab today ... money saved
This looks awesome, can’t wait to experiment with it. Thanks guys!
Please please add DCA/VCA. It would be so useful for controlling different tracks in different groups, or even control different groups.
That undo history is sick🔥
AutoShift best update ever in ABLETON =)
Wish you can record audio right into Simpler. Input similar to Granulator.
No matter what you add to Live 12 I cannot use it unless you fix (or give the option of fixing) the browser back to how it was in A11. A BROWSER is for BROWSING, not targeted searches. Bring back the folders view of A11! Sticking to A11 until they fix a feature that ruins the program completely.
Have you tried the similarity search? Great for finding inspiration
Delete 'Muted' Parts or Notes might be a good key command...
Please saving preset feature for midi tools. Arpegiator, recombine,chops and other midi tools
You can save custom user presets on any device in Live. Click the little disk icon too right corner.
Would love to see colored drum pads in the drum rack.
If you have push just hold shift and press the pad and all the color options pop up. If you don't, just unfold the drum rack on the mixer track, right click on the header of pad/track you want to change and presto choose color.
You could upgrade the limiter further by doing emulations (like with your filter) of classic limiting as found on DBX, 1176 and other types of units. I'd also like to see Reverb upgraded to encompass emulations of classic Lexicon and other units from the 80s and 90s, even the old Zoom 12xx series which had lovely dark, ugly reverbs.
I would upgrade to this but my ageing laptop will struggle. I'm still on 9 for this reason. Hopefully at some point I can build a new PC and upgrade.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾keeps getting better
Good work but can we get stems separation please.
another useful update would be an automatic collect all and save button in the settings' tab!
Nice that you have @Elphant as narrator.
Would be nice if we could get a command to select and open individual plugins. Also, the option to press a command to shuffle through plugin windows like in Logic
Better export and multitrack bounce interface and options.
realtime bouncing/export?
Stock stems separation is coming or not?
i can't wait for it, even if i have to pay for this option but its taking too long to come especially when you see that logic and fl has done it..
@DJCLS DOES NOT MATTER WHEN
BECAUSE YOUR MUSIC WILL STILL SUCK
ASAP!!
people are always banging on about this; I look up what it is and it's a super specialized task requires a complex algorithm ; buy a specialized tool that does just that why do you expect a daw to do that? (not even getting into why you'd do want to do that)
@ fl does it for free, why pay extra for that 2. If you don’t kno I don’t have time to explain lol good luck buddy
Thanks for the command E function!
Freeze and Flatten Groups Pleeeeease!!!!
I second this!
how do you get the global groove amount to display at the top next to time sig/metro displays? Mine doesn't although it's funny because I had this exact groove set up in my default set already. The button to auto load the groove into clips is excellent.
Hi there,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
The groove global amount doesn't show up in the bar at the top of the screen until you have a clip selected with the groove already applying to it. Try it out and see if it shows up!
Thanks,
Ableton
Hi. Is there an ability to be able to double the samples within the actual clips for more bar lengths?
Of course it works for midi.
I absolutely love Ableton, but why I still can't normalize audio tracks without consolidating each one? 😂
We got a native pitch corrector before bounce in place and hide tracks
I switched from FL studio a year ago and I dont regret it. The only things that would make my Ableton workflow perfect would be a bounce in place option and Bitwig style audio/midi hybrid tracks. And maybe specral effects like Bitwig too 😅 Bitwig doesnt have Max 4 Live or the midi effects so thats a big reason why i stay
very nice! but still the layout on the side for vst's, sample's, effects and instruments is a mess.
you keep searching for stuff.
maybe an overhaul that makes systemizing better would be nice.
Yesterday: I need to buy the upgrade kit for my Push 3, i waiting December.
Today: Push 3 Upgrade Kit on sale.
YES
yes yes yes
And none of these tags are browsable in Push, still?
How long has the update been out? And does Live automatically update itself? I feel like I’ve been in this version a few months now 😅
Is this available in all versions of Live, or just Suite?
best daw ♥
I will give it a try, is it good ?
Maybe a disable all session's plugins button/shortcut would be useful aswell!
How About enabling more then 16 multi-out plug-ins, so i can use all 21 channels from my Digitakt 2?
Good stuff, thanks!
Nice changes!
Compensation for high-latency third party plugins instead of using MIDI triggers again and again?
Why am I missing some of these, no auto tag or chop option ? I'm on 12.1
why dont we have a sample key detection in no daw ever yet? WE WANT KEY SCALE DETECTION BAKED INTO THE DAW!!!!!
Nice update but my pc to not support this version pls reoptimize to low pc
Is there a chord mode that can change midi notes?
I'm no longer on Live but these Changes do seem really nice 😅
Rest in peace 🙏🙏
Agreed. It’s tempting me back but I want to know how the performance is. Too many crashes and a general cpu hog. Got an m1max that runs other daws like butter. Iv never even reached any limits but ableton 11 for some reason just doesn’t want to be stable on it.
@@NakulKrishna surprised by how many say Ableton crashes often, I used it practically every day for a month and not one crash, and I tend to push my computer to the limit re: space on the harddisk all the time. This was the Ableton 12 trial btw.
@@Vingul I've used it for almost a year now and the only 2 crashes i have had was a plug-in going off the frits
@@NakulKrishna Ableton never crashed on its own for me. I have an m1. Always some plugin thats not fully optimised for apple silicon
Nice upgrades, but when do you finally fix the major latency issues and when do you upgrade tools like EQ8 and add oversampling on devices like auto filter, we live in 2024, filter cramping should 't be a thing anymore
Good update
Still missing fl like groove button
@3:45 how do you do that?
(nevermind; it's cmd+E then mouse movement. super useful)
A cool and standalone feature would be … the option to route tracks or sounds to multiple Audio interfaces . Example would be your primary interface and a midi keyboard with an audio interface…. There are time I wanna route a piano or unique sound to my MX49 while percussion and melodic Rhythms play through my interface
That's already possible on a Mac by creating aggregate audio devices in your audio setup, and do the routing how you want it in ableton.
@ you’re telling me you can use two audio interfaces?
On a Mac, yes. Google "how to create aggregate audio device". I do this all the time with a pioneer V-10 and a focusrite 4i4. That way I have a couple inputs to use in addition to the available channels to output on with the V-10. Same with an A+H K2 and the same 4i4.
PLEASE UPGRADE YOUR EQ. Something that competes with pro q :)
You can have the same curves as in pro q. What are u missing with eq8?
The volume fader moving to the left of the channel metering after decades of being on the right is really annoying.
Clap plugin support plz
3:22 it's about time
The groove feature should include polyrhythms: tresillo and what have you
Timecode based markers and clips, please. Midi Tempo track export... cc automation in arrangement view... some basic features for film music production please... it is just pain to work with video production...
ableton 12 needs audio sampler like the mpc fl studio 24 got a create direct wave iinstrument. need stems.