Pay-To-Win Minecraft Servers are officially APPROVED by Mojang
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Mojang has created an "Official Minecraft Server List." Sounds great and all, but the problem is that it's filled with pay-to-win servers.
Official Minecraft Server List Announcement Post: www.minecraft.net/en-us/artic...
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Just want to clarify/reiterate that NOT ALL the servers in this list are pay-to-win! Only the ones I directly mentioned are. So as for the other servers on this list, please show kindness if you decide to join them. Thank you!
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Mojang is litterally going full circle holy shit
New poop just dropped
not really I've seen this crap before, it just some Minecraft server listing group where your server can be shown in the top 10 like other Minecraft server list or etc.
well at least is now easier to look for p2w servers to attack if anything
@@alessandraleonardi982 heck maybe Mojang could add a report a Minecraft server thing
yeeeee hello horizon!!
The only thing that stops Mojang from doing almost nothing about these pay to win servers are angry parents complaining about it.
knowing microsoft,they probably would still do nothing lol
but doing something about 2b2t for no actual reasonfufihfdkhsifh
They don’t wanna get sued that’s the only treason they’d be nice
@@hausemasterissue9834 And that's on gang brother 🗣💯🔥
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I'm starting to genuinely question where Minecraft is heading. I've seen so many games fall to bad practices, greed & terrible decision making... I hope they don't go down the same road, but it's almost inevitable.
It's only inevitable if we allow it. Don't lose hope! 🙏🏾
It has already been happening for years
I mean it's Microsoft, they don't exactly have a good track record
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@@RexyRonin lol what can you do? they have billions of dollars and they can DMCA you if they won't like what you are doing
The commerical usage guidelines are very vaguely/poorly written, but when they mention you can't sell things that give a competitive advantage in game, the reason pay to win servers are allowed is because they aren't considered competitive. And what Mojang deems as competitive, and has actually blocked servers for in the past, is if they offer real money payouts. If they don't have those, then in the eyes of Mojangs guidelines they aren't considered competitive, and thus are allowed to be pay to win.
They really should rewrite the guidelines to be clearer. I also applied to get my server on this list, curious to see what happens.
probably gonna reject it for some wack reason
ngl, mojang should get rid of these p2w servers, ehem, they said its for kids 💀💀💀
sounds like your next video is going to be about this...
p2w servers tend to use gambling too yet
nothing done about it
It’s weird seeing other RUclipsr’s I love to watch in other’s comments! :)
This isn't entirely a Mojang issue, its a GamerSafer issue for allowing them on the list before Mojang collaborated.
But now that Mojang has tied themselves to it calling it "The OFFICIAL server list of Minecraft" it makes it FAR worse.
It's just now there's 2 groups that aren't properly vetting the servers with something as simple as checking the servers website for if they follow TOS.
By the sounds of it, GameSafer makes a provisionary list of applicants, and they hand it over to Mojang who then does a final verification.
Mojang either know exactly what's getting in, or they don't and are letting them in anyway. Is ignorance preferable to malice, because it has to be at least one of those that Mojang is culpable of.
the worst part is that they *technically* obey the TOS because they are super vague, (as seen in themisterepic's comment) so this might not even be fixed
@@shardmawif that's the case, the next drama would be great lol
All servers mentioned in the video are following the usage guidelines from what I know. So I'm confused what issue ya'll are having.
the fact that this is a list officially sponsored by mojang, for children, that contains p2w servers. The servers are still p2w regardless over whether or not they technically obey an incredibly vague and malleable ruleset, or whether or not "competitive" is interpreted differently.@@game_time1633
Fun fact, the badge with a hammer on it is a server that was, "recently reviewed by the Mojang Enforcement team and are found to comply with the Minecraft Usage Guidelines for running the server."
They were not only reviewed by GamerSafer, but also Mojang, and every server listed includes the badge...
Pretty sure that this doesn't guarantee that it really was and isn't a default badge that pretty much means anything as they can just lie lol
@@vulpzin That's true, but if they aren't lying then that means Mojang is directly okay with these gambling and pay-to-win servers :(
@@vulpzin it take ONE guy to look at their scummy website to know they are greedy within 15 minutes, how the hell a billionaire worth of team cant even check it more than once
@@tinypixiebreadSame reason as to why Apple can mostly get away with crappy cables.
"Hello, i like money!"
What's gamersafe - is this another "sweetbaby" type situation of third-party fascism?
After looking into this myself with the server "OP blocks" according to the website it has been assigned the "Builders Benchmark" Badge and this is the description provided for this badge.
"Servers with this Badge have been recently reviewed by the Mojang Enforcement team and are found to comply with the Minecraft Usage Guidelines for running the server."
and after looking at EVERY P2W SERVER sal showed in this video. every single one has the Builders benchmark badge meaning according to the site it was reviewed by mojang and allowed to exist on the site.
i wish it was ignorance but this really is telling another story.
Nothing wrong with servers monetizing themselves. Servers cost money and developers have to eat. Even hypixel with its massive playerbase shifted towards 'p2w' a while ago.
@@Ronkley how exactly did hypixel shift towards p2w?
Mojang knows. Mojang has known and Mojang continues to deliberately turn a blind eye because the bulk of their MC-related income comes from accounts associated with P2W servers. People that buy the $80 tier are also buying $7 skins on the daily. The Venn Diagram of people that pay for advantages in video games and people that pay extraordinary amounts for cosmetics in video games is indistinguishable from a single circle. Mojang knows and has known for decades. You can't even say they don't care, because they DO care. They care very much that these P2W servers stay not only in operation, but at the top of traffic, because those servers bring the money players.
@@RonkleyI don't recall hypixel doing P2W. I'm pretty sure that the stuff you can buy is either purely cosmetic or a rank that really only effects hub stuff. I don't recall any competitive edge that would be available to purchase in stuff like bed wars and sky wars to my knowledge. Can you please tell me how hypixel went P2W I would like to know.
@@Ronkley Whether you think it's morally ok or not, the facts are that it's against the usage guidelines and Mojang doesn't seem to care. If they want to allow this, they should change the usage guidelines. And stuff you pay for in Hypixel doesn't give you a competitive advantage.
Mojang is slowly following in the footstep of some *specific* game companies.
famous company that become a legendary meme :)
Mojang is owned by Microsoft?
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@@TheShadowrrc yes
notch is gone so obv.
Another concern is that the creation of this Official Server List feels like Mojang is trying their hands on taking back control of the servers & make everything Kid-friendly - "Game Safer" as a name should ring some alarm bells.
If the Official List became the go-to for most people, 3rd party Server Lists will slowly dwindle in popularity. Then, the servers will have to make their server kid-friendly to gain access to large potential playerbase. Kind of like how most websites don't risk getting delisted off of Google.
I joined a server on it and it is more directed to adults, any server can be on it
This would be a GOOD thing. third party server lists are awful. They engage in terrible practices that just harms the community. You clearly know nothing
I understand your concern but imo third party server lists are trash. Anything that doesn't have shady promotional deals is better than them. Still though, the best way to get a list of good servers is to be active in the community and ask other community members what servers they play on
Genuine federal agents in the replies holy shit
I laughed when he said their name is "Game Safer", ofc it is.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had an old name and Microsoft paid them to rename, just so they can really drill in the message that "Everything is safe guys!!1!" (This is most certainly not true, but I like to imagine it is)
I commemorate Mojang, for continuing the trend of 'Well Respected companies randomly becoming pieces of shit for no reason at a specific time in 2023'.
They fell years ago, but I still agree.
They fell off with the player reporting on Java
They fell off with the player reporting, splitting an update that was already split to begin with, continuing doing one of the most hated things by the community: the mob votes...
what other well respected companies fell off
*No reason?*
"World-leading technology to scale SAFETY and FAIR PLAY"
That one 5 year old kid that bought 100x Rainbow Keys for 300$ just to get beacon with 0.1% chance:
Guns? 😡😡😡
Frogs eating fireflies? 😡😡
Parrots eating cookies? 😡😡😡
Getting children addicted to gambling? 🤑🤑🤑
Remarkably inconsistent. I also feel like some people are going to defend this as well.
Riding dolphins? 😡😡😡
copying mods and literally just grabbing the devs of mods consistently at this point? 🤑🤑🤑
It's the parent's responsibility to raise their children correctly
Parrots can eat cookies dungle
I'm forever grateful I got to experience Minecraft in its prime during the early 2010s and not have to put up with the kind of bullshit Mojang has been pushing for the last couple of years
same. ngl i miss minecraft from back in the day
Once Notch went back on his word and sold us out, I knew it was over. Been a slow decline, but it's speeding up now.
@@a.s.3904 "Went back on his word and sold us out"
First of, he didnt sell us out. He sold the game he created. Second: He never intended Minecraft to become a big game. He wanted to have a small game and forge a small community around it, similar to other niche titles like Dwarf Fortress and the like. He didnt anticipate that it would become this huge of a success and eventually it got too much for him and he said "Im out". And good for him. Im glad he gets to enjoy his life and doesnt continue to ruin a game that he once loved.
@@a.s.3904 Notch didn't "sell us out," ngl im taking billions of dollars for my game, its just that a company as big as microsoft should know what to do to keep a game alive and popular and theyre doing the exact opposite by inserting microtransactions and absolute BS moderation
Same man, back when notch still owned Minecraft and wasn’t spiraling downhill with his partying n whatnot, that’s when shit was good, it was perfect.
New petition for everyone to go back to 1.1 or some shit 🤣 (I joined in that version so it’s all I could think of)
Another frustrating thing with the server list is that there seems to be no confirmation about any of the inputted information. For example, some server spam every tag there is just to show up in search results more. Like if you want to find servers running 1.2, you can't, because it's just filled with servers that have applied every version tag.
Sure, there are some plugins that allow you to join servers in different versions. But that doesn't mean that the servers should be allowed to advertise that they actually *run* those versions.
Exactly this, an organization system is useless if there isn't any truth to it
When I saw LoverFella's server on the list... I have no words. They literally, officially support and approve of servers that literally break their rules and guidlines... when will this circus end?
How does his servers break the rules
@@axobuddy2149 p2w with gambling, and weird af naming conventions that just seem like groomer material
@@axobuddy2149 .. it's pay to win
@@axobuddy2149it promotes... underage gambling and p2w
I think GamerSafer was likely paid by the servers to include them at the top of the list. Mojang is likely not even involved with the making of this server list and just wanted to slap their name on it for credibility.
yeah that would make GamerSafer a corrupt greedy company and Mojang a corrupt incompetent company. Not a great look for both of them
Or if you know you're having a review as a server owner you just hide the p2w on the website and add it back once you get accepted into the server list
they said the wouldnt be accepting payments either tho.
well, they already lied once
@@uvewott2243 like 99% of companies are "corrupt greedy companies", that's nothing really noteworthy lol. companies literally exist to make money (and this isn't a defense of that, I'm saying it's bad to be clear)
Dupe goat
Another way of going under the radar is to disable and hide all the P2W elements for the duration of the review, and once they're officially on the list, they can put it all back online.
Dear Lord, I pray that’s the issue. I hope that Microsoft and gamersafer are just unfamiliar with 3rd party servers.
We need more people to cover this issue. Servers like this encourage careless and reckless spending amongst under age users who are easily advertised to
We need more legends like SalC1 and Horizon to dupe on these servers so the poor kids can see the stupidity that is pay to win.
If a child can log onto a minecraft server and spend absurd amounts of money that is due to parental negligence and is in no way the fault of anyone running a server.
If your child is using a computer unsupervised, has access to your paypal/ card info and then makes a purchase how can anyone but the parent be to blame. They could just have easily bought something on steam/ ubereats/ amazon at that point.
@@Ronkley >has access to your paypal/ card info and then makes a purchase how can anyone but the parent be to blame.
There's such a thing as "Steal mommy's credit card".
They cant give permission if they dont even know you *have* it, and you cant watch it 24/7...
aaaaaaaaaand you are suggesting that if your child were to steal your credit card and make a purchase on a game that it would be the games fault? Seems like a scapegoat for incredibly shit parenting.
@@karlmarxii1898 All they will see is a full grown adult doing the minecraft equivalent of kicking their sandcastle.
Mojang: "You're not allowed to swear on private Minecraft servers"
Also Mojang: "You're allowed to have a server that's pay-to-win"
I think Mojang says that you can’t sell things that gives a competitive advantage, and these servers *technically* aren’t competitive, so they just turn a blind eye.
@@rax1899more like pay to play.
*pay to win for kids
My server explicitly allows swearing, and they allowed us (Hotdog Water) on the list. In my rules, which are linked on the findmc site listing: "Swearing is fine, just don't be gross." Wonder if they overlooked it or if they condone it.
@@JakeLaMtn why would they go about the many nuances of free speech when they can go the lazy way and just ban all bad words? It's not hurting their bottom line, and this controversy pretty much blew by. Like most things with Mojang/ Microdicc, they don't care.
it's really sad what the state of minecraft servers are now, barely anyone plays any fun minigames, if anyone actually, every single popular minigame is PVP, and it has so many sweats that it's impossible to enjoy as a casual, every single server that has over 100 players are pvp with crates, wheel of fortunes, and every other form of gambling, it's so bad that I just play Modded Singeplayer.
Even getting mods in have edition is so confusing and not straight forward at all the chances are you will get hacked tryna have fun
nah sorry that's absolutely on you for downloading from untrusted sources, if you download mods from curseforge and modrinth then you never will face that issue, and modding minecraft is very easy, literally all you do is download a modloader then put your mods in the mods folder@@placefeature5329
bro missed the whole point@@JadLuv
@@placefeature5329ngl that sounds like a you problem… i have no trouble finding and using mods?
@@placefeature5329 You get used to it. Also, I only download from curseforge and modrinth
Haven forbid even a single server has plugins that add not-approved weapons but servers promoting gambling to kids or with pay-to-win ranks that give access to op items and commands. This feels like something that will be fixed later but it shouldn't be up to the community to fix Mojang's lack of judgement when they allow something they take seriously like servers following their rules and guidelines
Wow, just wow.
It is (or at least was, I did not check it recently at all) clearly stated in Minecraft's guidelines, that you are *not* allowed to sell kits, items, etc. which give you regular items as rewards like diamonds.
And literally the kit you showed us had 32 Diamonds as a part of the kit.
32 diamonds in a kit with netherite tools lol
And a fix command too
Like some fucking sugar sprinkles on a donut or something
Ah yes, I love minecraft's motto: Build, Explore, and Buy
cha ching
💵💶💷💴
Goofy ahh not joker lumb
I'm honestly much more shocked at them having a COBBLEMON server on their official endorsed list...
Surely one of their lawyers would have looked at that, then at the rapidly approaching Nintendo lawyers and said "nope".
Yeah, that's in no way the only one on that list either. I'm impressed.
Yeah lol they only care about money
@@placefeature5329I think you missed the point of the comment, since being sued by Nintendo is not a way to make money
@@placefeature5329 And guess what happens when Nintendo catches wind of that?
A lawsuit. That *takes away* lots of money.
sooo, we should tell nintendo? hehe
sounds like a very fun idea
end result is just corporations losing money anyway, so no one even gets harmed and MAYBE just maybe mojand/ms get up from their lazy butts@@LoraLoibu
What I'm most disturbed by is the "3 Hour Death Ban" which sounds like if you kill someone they can't respawn for 3 hours, which is more than enough time to grief them and let their stuff despawn
Shoutout to OPBlocks selling you both "No Hunger" and a single stack of Steak in the same tier.
Mojang never fails to disappoint...
blame microsoft
@@amokey5620 both
@@amokey5620Yes mojang sucks because of microsoft. That still means THEY suck.
@@froggamer4884mojang is owned by Microsoft, it doesn’t make sense to blame the worker for the fault of the employer
@@amokey5620I would if mojang actually did something other then flaunder around for a year developing other games/versions and dividing the community with unwanted unnecessary features and mobs that only add to minecrafts issues instead of fixing them.
I wonder...
If Mojang is brazenly allowing P2W servers on their official browser, is it because they just don't care? Or is it because they cut a deal with those servers to get a cut of the profits?
I don't know which one is worse tbh
Being a multimillionaire company the second one is probably true
I find it unlikely that they are getting a cut, they can most likely get in trouble for that. There are sooo many servers out there some are going to slip though the cracks. Or they don't have pay to win get approved then add pay to win later that is the most likely option since the serer owners are greedy af lol
Guessing motivation isnt defamation.
@@luissuazo3684 r/youngpeopleyoutube
This has been a thing on Bedrock Edition for years, where all of the pre-loaded servers are Pay2Win lootbox servers, who give Mojang a large % of their income for the privilege of being pre-loaded
The war against pay-to-win servers is far from over.
Hell yeah
There's a report option that takes waaaay to long to use. They basically want us to collect all the evidence of what the servers doing wrong, compile it with links and at least one screenshot, and who knows if they'll even look at the report. Love doing all the work they should be doing, but I'm not being paid for it.
Can we appreciate how little effort Minecraft puts in their game these days.
They never did outside of biome and world creation. The mod community has always done, and still does, more in 4 months than Mojang does, and has ever done, in 4 years.
The new mojhang has put out way more content than the old one.
People just have higher expectations now and are never happy with anything.
@rompevuevitos222 It's hard not to have higher expectations when Microsoft, whom has a higher budget, owns Minecraft. And it's even harder not to be disappointed with things like the mob votes. What's stopping them from adding all the mobs from it with the order being dictated by community vote?
Of course people have higher expectations, and of course people aee gonna be disappointed. Modern Mojang kind of did it to itself.
@@rompevuevitos222 Aw yes the good ol entitled consumer argument. Get this, what if, and I know this is going to sound crazy... people... are right? I know shocker!
@@magnumdopest9161 then you would be proposing a baseless opinion. Shocker how that works huh?
So they add p2w servers to the list but not Hypixel??
its 100% because owners who applied to this needed the additional players to join. hypixel def does not need to join to "official" server list. Tubers like you&techno help hypixel to advertise their server for free and hypixel is biggest server on minecraft, so they dont have to join to these.
hypixel has alot of p2w games though. theyve been removing p2w from games like tnt run recently though
You should make a pop server that has a rank with the command kill all, which kills everyone except the player and gives you the best loot from everyone just to see if it can get through
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the TOS states that you are not allowed to gain any COMPETITIVE advantage. The key word is competitive here. I spent maybe a good 5 minutes logging onto servers with "p2w" ranks, and warping to any pvp zone. If you try to do /heal or any commands that may give you an advantage, it will most likely prompt you with something like "this command is not allowed in this zone". This is the case for 90% of servers with the op commands, they are not allowed to be used in any type of pvp or "competitive advantage". There is no rule against having op commands for non competitive things that won't effect anyone else. Hypixel Skyblock for example, had to remove the Colosseum (the pvp zone), because they started to introduce ways to convert irl money to in game currency, in which they removed all "competitive" aspects. I'm not saying that there are servers on this list that are actually p2w (like faction ranks), but it feels like the majority of these servers sell ranks that won't give the "competitive advantage" and go against TOS.
Ah yes, "safety-and-security-focused" servers that support gambling!
I know!!
for kids
y'know, for the kids!
@FE_Studios A healthy and not wastful at all thing for the kids' money
Security = harder to DDoS
Safety = Corporate entities involved are less likely to be liable for damage caused
I still love Minecraft, but it's obvious that Mojang and their philosophy has drastically changed since Microsoft purchased them.
Well, think about it, they can't enforce the rules on thousands of servers effectively and efficiently. They don't have enough manpower to deal with it all, so it is better to just accept pay to win. Reality is often disappointing, but there's nothing you can do, and the money isn't worth it to hire new employees to take on the role of mojang support.
b-b-b-but Notch is Swedish and therefor a nazi. Old minecraft bad. bad bad bad
@@NSluiter Notch is a nazi but being Swedish has absolutely nothing to do with it :v
@@nicocchi "Everyone I don't like is Hitler"
@@nicocchi wha- no??
when I saw LoverCraft at the top of the server list I knew that they weren't properly moderating the list at all, hopefully Mojang steps in soon
It would have taken one Mojang intern an afternoon of quickly checking all the server websites to remove like 95% of the pay-to-win servers on the list, smh.
We need to dupe on every pay 2 Win Server
To make them *play to have fun*
Basically all game companies are making their games a dystopia
it's more of a dystopia if you could get arrested or charged for hosting a minecraft server.
I was in The Horizon’s video with the minecarts about MineSuperior. I got banned after spending approx $2k over 4 months (I’m an adult, am retired and can afford it). I complained about the amount of gambling being offered to minors and that they were opening themselves up to a lawsuit. Because of this, I was banned for “threatening legal action against the server” and perm banned. They also banned my nephew’s account because we played on the same IP. They are 100% trash, and I’m disgusted that Mojang did NOTHING to penalize them when I made several reports to them about it.
Mojang: bans guns on servers
Also mojang: allows p2w servers when they are specifically not allowed.
I am comparing something like hypixel which is kinda pay2win but it isn’t ridiculous to literally any server that has crates that can be opened using keys purchased with REAL MONEY.
but virtual guns pose a real life threat to children because the encourage violence! (this is satire)
If mojang doesent do anything about it then the community themselves have to destroy these P2W servers.
mojang: p2w servers is against TOS
also mojang:
Mojang is fully collapsing at this point 💀💀
microsoft issue
Yeah it’s low key sad. I used to love Minecraft
As it should be. Microsoft ruined it
and they're lazy as hell, why buy a game company that was doing fine just to ruin it?
Everything changed when the microsoft nation attacked
I remember the times when Mojang was the most based game studio out there, good times.
When Notch left, it went woke.
@@SupersuMCIf you think the issue here is wokeness you gotta do some critical thinking
@@SupersuMC you've meant when Agnes took over?
@@sapphicseas0451 censorship of everything, removing Notch from the credits, chat report, banning in-game weapons and all that shit isn't woke for you ?
It's been years that Mojang is doing nothing but pushing their woke agenda, I'm just waiting for Hytale at that point
@@SupersuMC notch carried minecraft
and now he laughs his ass off from his villa and probably thinking "what a shitty game" lmao
Mojang do not have, and should not have any say over community servers so this does not matter
rev up the server lagging machines boys
(Joke) some1 make a virus to syphon all the p2w money those servers make
lol have a great weekend guys!
Mojang believes in players being able to have a sense of Pride And Accomplishment™
Ah, yes, the most-downvoted comment on Reddit. That was fun to contribute to.
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*Mojang: All content needs to be for all ages*
*Also mojang (aka microsoft): But it’s perfectly fine to scam them*
awesome video as always, sal! also is it just me or did you just use a gw2 osts? out of curiosity, do you play it? its honestly such a cool game. :")
Safer in this context means almost assuredly means that they're brand safe for Microsoft.
Bold to say that when COBBLEMON exists, one of the most unsafe servers on that list
The irony of that creepy Loverfella dude's server being on the kid-safe server list is so juicy.
hey Sal, you're legitimately an awesome guy for bringing this to light
Dang I've been playing on Complex for years and it's sad to see where it's gone
It’s worth noting that some of the p2w servers don’t give an advantage over other players when it’s not competitive, so I don’t think they would count against the guidelines(but something like that /near command definitely implies that there’s a good, competitive use to seeing other players)
Example?
PVP
If you wanna hunt players@@lulmanlulman
@@lulmanlulman if the server doesn't have pvp, p2w doesn't exist because there is nothing to win. Just to clarify, I doubt that the servers in the list are pvp off anyway, so it would count as p2w
@@13kpf There's more to competitive gaming than just pvp, don't know why you're assuming just because something isn't pvp that you can't buy a competitive advantage over players.
If a server is centered around making money and you pay IRL money to make more money than a regular player reasonably could, that's the literal definition of buying an advantage and being p2w.
There is always stuff to win, there's quests, leaderboards, player shops, competitive build competitions, pve dungeons, etc.
P2W isn't exclusive to PVP.
the same server had a command that gave items/kits from obtaining certain ranks; its defintely p2w.
When a game company is led by business men instead of big boys who actually play games, this is bound to happen.
Only last hope we can have is that they want those servers on the list and then ban them permanently so they can at least keep track of the bad guys... but then again, it wasn't even supposed to be on the list to begin with so they already failed at that task which is just stupid and sad :(
OPBlocks in particular is even worse, because they have something that is against the Minecraft TOS: Pay2win in crates/loot boxes (the crystals.) The whole ranks thing is a grey area that the support staff will tell you is "Actually Okay to have." But as soon as they're included in loot crates/boxes, Mojang really doesn't like it. As it goes against the whole gambling thing. The Loverfella server also is one that does this too.
Another issue is that one of the servers is abusing tags. It has no English description whatsoever, but says it's English.
So now you and the AntiP2W crowd have a hit-list.
We remember what a debacle MCBans was (god bless TeamAvolition and give them ice-cream); so now we move to make sure, just like with MCBans, that being on the community list puts a target on your back.
Being on the community list is not worth the headache of dealing with dupers and griefers. Being on the community list is *terrible for business,* and server ops would be better off on their own.
Servers on this site are user submitted so its not a case of Mojang endorsed but Mojang (and/or gamersafer) arent moderating the site properly. If you look the site doesn't even list Hypixel on there because the owners have to list it themselves and bare in mind this site opened 4 days ago. It's almost the same system as the bedrock marketplace there are so many servers that it would be impossible to manually verify each one so they let users submit them and are probably working on a team to go through and remove the really bad ones after the fact
that shit makes this even worse
If that is indeed true, that's still a fault against them since a large, decently staffed moderation team should probably be something you should be gathering and implementing alongside the creation process of hosting site so it would be ready to go immediately on launch. That they didn't apparently think this was a top priority reflects badly on them.
ohh so users can directly post servers without moderation on that list? no? so? gamesafe did a sht "job" and its not an argument that its only 4 days old, it must be safe from day 0!
probably both because Mojang/Microsoft is just blindly trusting gamersafer and gamersafer is probably doing the bare minimum on verifying if those servers even comply with the TOS of Mojang because if you remember when Mojang killed a Minecraft nft project then you clearly be confused right now with this news
Even if this is the case, P2W servers already have badges next to them saying they’ve been “manually reviewed” (just as they’re “manually reviewing” reports…). So it’s either negligence, blatant lying or they’re being paid off by the server itself to be on the list
I love that mojang, with all the infinite resources of minecraft, outsources an official server list instead of making a solution themselves. It feels very in-line with mojang's behaviour but still feels a bit weird.
I hope you make a follow up vid, with what they respond to you or something like that.
time to make our own Minecraft boys
Yes
Survival craft 2. Gets updates to this day, no controvesies (i think), more mobs, logic gates, etc. Just better
Minetest be like: am i a joke to you?
there is one created by the same dude who created orespawn who just went mad because they couldn't legally make people pay for his stupidly overpowered mod to be ported into new minecraft, and now that dude is creating minecraft clone with his biases and conspiracies. althought they havent posted progress in 10 months, so it probably has died too.
This is giving me RUclips community guidelines flashbacks. "Abide by all these rules, but also we let advertisements/official servers run that break all of these!"
Man the first thing i checked was this and its really sad to see this happening
is it down for anyone else? could be a good sign
Please post an update on the response they give from the report you send. I would really like to know how they deal with it!
Thanks :)
remember when mojang just made a game and that was it?
thanks microsoft
I was really trying to figure out why the music sounded so familiar and turned out it was Guild Wars. Think this is the first time I've seen a video using the OST so props for that.
I wish they would just make an official statement cementing their position on this, instead of leaving it as an ambiguous mess
Greediness has a limit. Beware of its consequences.
Also mojang or this "company" is avoiding the responsibility to keep everything in check.
Its just sad.
We trully are living in the darkest timeline
I distinctly remember this being opposed by Mojang back in 2013/2014. It came with a whole slate of other EULA changes but selling items on servers was a distinct callout.
Oh well, guess they need to breathe new life into the 3rd party server space with their clampdowns on free speech
Sal, I don't know if you've been informed, but the official server site is literally down right now, like "this site doesn't function and it doesn't look like it was taken down for maintenance" type of down.
Wow.
I can only think that they build a nice facade when they got reviewed and are now, that they are on the list, showing their real colors.
But of curse it could also be that they are lying and that they arent actually vetting each server in depth or even at all.
How would they "build a nice facade" really?
If a person just went on the server and asked "hey where can I buy stuff with money" they'd get an answer quickly
Also, would they just shut down their whole store page for a day/week (dunno how long the process takes)
The players would be really confused too
@@Ikxi No way they are going to each server at most the website, which can very easily be replaced!
Notch leaving Minecraft was a sign of things to come.
When I first heard about the official list this is exactly what I was worried about
Would have been cool, if you might have waited for an answer from the support
Or maybe a follow up video would be nice
We now officially live in the darkest timeline.
We’d need to pay for oxygen.
Not yet but we are nearing the end I believe
we're already here for years.
All the 2014 anti-Microsoft purchase chads just keep winning
(Sadly it's a Pyrrhic victory)
nah this shit is already a dystopia
if you'd ask someone from 1980 they'd think what the fuck happened to us
@@placefeature5329
Considering Mojang's recent track record, them approving servers like this isn't that hard to believe.
Yo Sal you missed this line just a few lines up in the Usage Guidelines "Asking for donations, so long as you don’t offer the donor something that only they can use However, you may offer all players server wide rewards if donation goals are met."
The Olmakhan soundtrack (from Guild Wars 2)
For all those who fought against p2w servers o7
Holy shit, i didnt even think of this! That really sucks and I hope mojang finally clarifies their guidelines and/or actually enforces them properly.
Okay the guild wars 2 gendarran fields music jumpscared me. Was not expecting that here.
I love how they didn't even put hypixel on the top nor is it searchable
i want to live in 2014 again
Since this is official that means the FCC can get involved! Call the FCC and report that Mojang is doing this as this is a violation of COPPAA and will likely get Mojang shut down if they refuse to comply with the law.
And this is also against eu law. With good timing and a good amount of pressure it will force mojang to reverse it
They have a 'D' next to their name so it's fine, didn't you hear?
5:38 I just noticed you use a Tripwire Hook as a mic
Omg Lemoncloud. That was my first server before I knew any better. I'd always hoped you'd do one of your economy killing videos there. 😅
I knew the day would come 😢 lets make our own minecraft guys!
Minetest...
Vintage Story
Infiniminer
Hytale...
@@AltumDolor Hypixel is just as bad, because they made there Skyblock p2w
THEY MAY APPROVE OF P2W, BUT I DON'T!
i never bought Minecraft before because i didn't have money of my own or a credit card
now i have my money and card, but seeing what Minecraft has been doing recently, I'm glad I've stuck with piracy for all these years
Most of the people on the Gamersafer staff are actually big server owners within the MC community! At least, 100-200 player average.
For those not happy with the current state of minecraft, I suggest giving minetest a try. It's free and amazing. One tip: install mods for a better experience. The base game is very barebone like early minecraft but it comes with the modloader out of the box.
nice
I suggest Vintage Story as well!
I am thfrom eating scented candles
keep it up!
Not surprised tbh but omg overcast network at 3:31 BANGER!
Something has to be wrong with the vetting process. There's no way a server that has an $80 booster pack with efficiency 100 tools and player proximity commands is considered fair gameplay to a $0 run. It's either that or ACTUAL GAMBLING within the servers. Most don't even bother to list the chances of each drop, so you could be throwing money at an item with a 0.007% drop rate.