I can't decide I'm excited or disappointed. The characters look much better, their skin don't look like plastic, but we need a real VF6 with real next-gen graphics and a single player mode similar to VF4 Evo.
This is my fav fighting game of all time, I just got a PS5 and will be getting this but hope more fighting games are on the way as how they used to be. They are getting too sluggish.
At the time, customization was due to the game being rebuilt from scratch on the Dragon Engine, meaning all the customization items had to also be remade from scratch.
and in the ps3 the background is render in 3d, in the ps4 is a 2d image, the same with the rocks, in the ps4 there is no boats or people in the water, missing houses and if you pause at 4:53 you can see the roof of tenchu from the ps1
The overall look of vanilla is great. The lack of things like dramatic lighting in the remaster hurts the overall look. The characters, in general, have better textures and detail, but that glossy VF look is gone.
Well this comparison isn't technically accurate because Ultimate Showdown is based off of Final Showdown not the original Virtua Fighter 5. That's why the stages look different. The first entry and 5R has the best looking stages.
they deleted sun reflexion and some others effects starting final showdown coz they were asked to do a lighter game in terms of GB space in order to make it simple to download and maybe avoid lag in online battles
@@realamericannegro977 yes coz this version is based on final showdown version, that is already downgraded... sad for me too.. I think the only chance to have a full VF is probably an eventual VF 6 , so let's support this game to show Sega they have to give us more VF
I don't have any nostalgia for VF5 but there are aspects of the PS3 version that are more visually appealing to me. Not to say the PS4 version looks bad, but I can't say everything is necessarily an improvement.
Lol can't be serious. It's the same game but the new version got an obvious details and graphics face-lift. I owned it a decade ago on the xbox 360 but this past 3 days im discovering this game all over again
The original looks much better. These developers had no idea what the charm of the original was, and went for a useless visual upgrade that is sub par.
Characters design in this game is meant to be fictional. any other approach will ruin how certain characters look, i played VF 4 a lot with my brother back in the day on ps2, fun times.
@@melxb Sure. Sega is testing the waters. If this goes well, we may get a VF 6. Like Capcom did with DMC series on the PS4/X1 before started development on the DMC5
@@zanychelly yeah possibly, i hope they bring more older IPs back like skies of arcadia, wish the yakuza team helped make shenmue 3 with the creator as well, but maybe not too late to do so with the 4th entry
I know this remaster has been made with the Dragon Engine from the Yakuza games,but the faces look too much Yakuza-ish.I apreciate the will from the devs of keeping this game alive though.
Well, Virtua Fighter and Shenmue were loosely linked games since originally Shenmue was gonna be a VF RPG. Since both were made by AM2, there were artstyle similarities, too. But nowadays, people view Yakuza as the Shenmue of the next generation. Especially with Yakuza's success and the beautiful graphics of the Dragon Engine, guess they thought this was the natural evolution for visuals.
The intro is a video not real time. I downloaded it on psplus and ive noticed how they downgraded some of the backgrounds and the lighting in some the character faces are hideous. Light passes to characters noses. Jesus.
IDK man, call me crazy but I don't think VF Ultimate looks better just different? I think VF5 Final looks great still, they could have just ran VF5 Final at higher resolution and touch up the textures and such, would have achieved a similar upgraded looking effect. I'm still happy as hell they made this though!
With the exception of Sarah and Jacky Bryant’s interactions, I think I prefer VF5 vanilla’s intro. That’s more personality in those few minutes than I’ve seen in all 4 previous games combined (VF Kids not counting)
It's crazy how inconsistent Ultimate Showdown looks, in some instances it clearly looks better, but there are others where it straight up looks worse. Akira and Jacky's faces' for example they don't look as good aesthetically, and you can see the devs didn't take into consideration how applying the old facial animations to the new faces would look, because we get some really weird expressions throughout. Then there are some stages like Eileen's which look much better in the original, but there are stages like Statues that looks like a major improvement.
So the poly count on the models is technically higher, but I definitely am not a fan of Akira's redesign and some of the missing/changed lighting and post processing. Seems like a very mixed bag depending on whether you prefer the new, technically superior graphics or the old art direction.
This looked great but that's definitely a noticeable upgrade. The colors pop more, the camera is zoomed into more, actual hit sparks versus the subtle glow, better facial rigging for more expression, etc. If anything VF6 is going to be great if theu choose to follow up on this.
I don’t know why but ps3 looks better xD the new one looks too “clean” idk... also, the ps3 version is more impressive for the hardware its running on. The new one looks cheap. Reminds me of shemmue 3 and thats not good.
The graphics look better on PS5 (aside from a few faces; seriously, why does Akira look younger?), but the music isn't nearly as good. Also, a decade and a half later and yet they still don't know what subtitles are?
I think its pretty obvious that the ps4 remaster was gonna look way better since ps3 was ages ago but clearly I wanted to see VF6. Hopefully if this ultimate showdown meets expectations they will get to work on a bigger entry for the series and that's how this feels...they are testing the waters to see if people are still interested in the VF series before daring to do VF6.
This game was remixed for PS4 not PS5 that's why the graphics only look slightly better. They should have waited till the end of the year and remade it in Unreal Engine 5 for PS5 if they wanted to show off a big graphic difference.
VF6 and Tekken 8 need to be made in UE5 at this point, im sorry but fuck the old consoles, they need to skip PS4/XBO this time and go full next-gen graphics.
Too difficult to appreciate the beauty of VF5US with a 1080p RUclips footage, especially when the bit rate of the original footage was already too low. Try again but capturing the game with a much higher bit rate and uploading a 4K video.
wtf are you talking about VF6 should be developed in a Cartonny engine not the shitty dragon engine and "RGGstudios" should never make a virtua fighter game again it should be AM2 instead
The faces are terrible in the new ver. How did they get them so wrong?🤦♂️ Pretty damn unimpressive if you ignore that it's free with PS+ at launch. Removal of the swimsuits and other customization options, no Kumite/Quest mode, 1080p cap, the faces, the reflections... not what this long time fan of VF wanted at all. Higher poly counts and better textures are nice, but still less than the bare minimum to expect.
VF5 intro sounds like all characters lost the ability to talk human language
Reading your comment with the sounds from the intro is fucking funny
I love it, still after 14 years lol
I can't decide I'm excited or disappointed. The characters look much better, their skin don't look like plastic, but we need a real VF6 with real next-gen graphics and a single player mode similar to VF4 Evo.
I think they're testing the waters
@@unclekaz3153 yeah will there missing the bait
VF had some of the best single player in a fighting game
This is my fav fighting game of all time, I just got a PS5 and will be getting this but hope more fighting games are on the way as how they used to be. They are getting too sluggish.
You want a single player game then dont play fighting games
Note that there is no actual native PS5 version. VF5US is PS4 1080p only, PS5 is running on back compatibility.
So I must download VFUS on ps4 first then transfer it to ps5?
@@silveriver9 What a dumb question
It's weird i prefer the Ps3 version? Also, the original version has a lot more customization itens.
No i like the original better too. Unfortunately its not bc on either ms or sony consoles
I don’t blame you. Something about it just seems better.
At the time, customization was due to the game being rebuilt from scratch on the Dragon Engine, meaning all the customization items had to also be remade from scratch.
At around 4:52 the structures in the water are missing reflections and look weird compared with even the PS3 version.
and in the ps3 the background is render in 3d, in the ps4 is a 2d image, the same with the rocks, in the ps4 there is no boats or people in the water, missing houses and if you pause at 4:53 you can see the roof of tenchu from the ps1
Damn y'all SLUETHED this video hard. 👍
So basically not only does the PS3 version hold up really well, in some ways it is actually better than PS5 version.
Thanks.
And if you have the 360 version, you can get it upscaled on Series X.
In all ways tbh
@@ninjascroll1017 if you ignore the improved textures, details and models.
@@ninjascroll1017 You're blind if you claim it's in all ways better lol
@@michaelshahoe in all technical ways it’s better. The artistc differences ( haze) is a matter of preference.
Lighting and textures improved. Reflections look terrible on the remaster, though.
especially the gi and the actual high poly models though.
With the new natural lighting and PBR of Dragon Engine, the old PS3 reflections will not look correct
@@jomsies you must be blind
@@jomsies You mean the ps2 lighting on the ps3 version looks better?
remember we need a original graphics vs remaster graphics memes
thats the original looks good and the remaster looks worse
The overall look of vanilla is great. The lack of things like dramatic lighting in the remaster hurts the overall look. The characters, in general, have better textures and detail, but that glossy VF look is gone.
It's not a "VF look", it's a "I'm a game from two generations ago" look
@@TheExFatal Learn what the word "artstyle" means
....Akira starts to look like Bolo Yeung...
Akira looks like someone broke his nose in this game
Veeery good! ...but brick not hit back.
Visual improved but i still prefer the older characters designs, some got strange particular stuff in the fac, like big nose, little eyes, etc...
i'm a bit sad they don't show us the sun reflexion anymore. It looked beautiful in yhe original game
Well this comparison isn't technically accurate because Ultimate Showdown is based off of Final Showdown not the original Virtua Fighter 5. That's why the stages look different. The first entry and 5R has the best looking stages.
@@realamericannegro977 the stages are still slightly different in FS vs US
they deleted sun reflexion and some others effects starting final showdown coz they were asked to do a lighter game in terms of GB space in order to make it simple to download and maybe avoid lag in online battles
@@BLeaK01 it looks like they deleted some effects in this version too. I want a full Virtua Fighter 5. We haven't had one since the vanilla version.
@@realamericannegro977 yes coz this version is based on final showdown version, that is already downgraded... sad for me too.. I think the only chance to have a full VF is probably an eventual VF 6 , so let's support this game to show Sega they have to give us more VF
I don't have any nostalgia for VF5 but there are aspects of the PS3 version that are more visually appealing to me. Not to say the PS4 version looks bad, but I can't say everything is necessarily an improvement.
the ps3 stages look way more thematic and atmospheric to be honest, the newer one feels less carefully put together
The lighting and reflections look so much better in the original VF5.
quit playing games on low setting dude
Lol can't be serious. It's the same game but the new version got an obvious details and graphics face-lift. I owned it a decade ago on the xbox 360 but this past 3 days im discovering this game all over again
Trippin
Akira's face looks really weird in Ultimate Showdown. His face looks as it went under the knife. I prefer Vanilla's Akira.
Dang the music in the og one is on a whole new level.
The realistic faces looks off for a couple characters, the environments look good. But the hud on the ps5 version looks awful.
The HUD looks fine to me. At least the characters' names are legible.
They were clearly aiming for a "classic" look for the health bars.... Which would be fine, if it were optional.
Ultimate Showdown: better lighting and visuals
Final Showdown: better reflektions and Face Models
Seems like the old one has better reflections.
Especially the 360 version. Played on a good tv, the 360 is more vivid than ps3s. I have both
Dragon engine never had good reflections for any of their games
I love VF but all the faces for this look worse w/ exception of maybe Jeffrey and Shun. Akira looks terrible.
Agreed, Vanessa also looks better in the original VF5, in the remaster she looks older.
Sarah is a bit worse too. Hard to top DOA5 version of her.
Akira looks butt ugly. But yeah Jeffrey, Shun, Kage and maybe Lion look better in this game.
PS3 and XBox 360 were awesome consoles. These things are years old and still look good.
16 years this year for 360. 15 years for PS3.
the dizziness i had from the ps3 intro @_@
The original looks much better. These developers had no idea what the charm of the original was, and went for a useless visual upgrade that is sub par.
Characters design in this game is meant to be fictional. any other approach will ruin how certain characters look, i played VF 4 a lot with my brother back in the day on ps2, fun times.
You mean functional?
Same I played vf 4 a lot on PS2
Sad how the authenticity was lost .. also no quest mode
How did they manage to make the remaster look so much worse?
It is PS4 vs PS3… PS4PRO and PS5 runs the game on the same resolution and asset detail as the base PS4.
ps5 runs in bc so yeah it is really just ps4/ps4 pro being compared
but of course even for PS4 it could have been way better this is justa remaster touch up/clean up and not a full on remake anyways
@@melxb Sure. Sega is testing the waters. If this goes well, we may get a VF 6. Like Capcom did with DMC series on the PS4/X1 before started development on the DMC5
@@zanychelly yeah possibly, i hope they bring more older IPs back like skies of arcadia, wish the yakuza team helped make shenmue 3 with the creator as well, but maybe not too late to do so with the 4th entry
4:43 no reflection on water. For some reason there are several reflection/shadow problems in the PS5 version.
I know this remaster has been made with the Dragon Engine from the Yakuza games,but the faces look too much Yakuza-ish.I apreciate the will from the devs of keeping this game alive though.
Well, Virtua Fighter and Shenmue were loosely linked games since originally Shenmue was gonna be a VF RPG. Since both were made by AM2, there were artstyle similarities, too. But nowadays, people view Yakuza as the Shenmue of the next generation. Especially with Yakuza's success and the beautiful graphics of the Dragon Engine, guess they thought this was the natural evolution for visuals.
The remaster intro is such a huge improvement my god
The intro is a video not real time. I downloaded it on psplus and ive noticed how they downgraded some of the backgrounds and the lighting in some the character faces are hideous. Light passes to characters noses. Jesus.
They really turned my guy Akira into a Yakuza character
Even now 3 years later I see his face and just think, why his face out of all of them that got such a drastic change… it’s just bizarre. 🤔
5:25 - Never thought Aoi would have a techno-booming stage soundtrack in the PS3 edition! "It's always the quiet ones" lol 😂👍
Rave! Rave! Rave! Repeat. 🙌📢😎
That’s not her stage, it’s Kage’s lol
IDK man, call me crazy but I don't think VF Ultimate looks better just different? I think VF5 Final looks great still, they could have just ran VF5 Final at higher resolution and touch up the textures and such, would have achieved a similar upgraded looking effect. I'm still happy as hell they made this though!
Its actually vanilla vf 5 not final
Elieen looks more cuter in the PS3 version.
Old Akira still looks the best.
Something I noticed about Ultimate Showdown is that the music slightly changes in style depending on who’s onscreen.
This is the progress.....please ps3 version looks better...after 10 years
With the exception of Sarah and Jacky Bryant’s interactions, I think I prefer VF5 vanilla’s intro. That’s more personality in those few minutes than I’ve seen in all 4 previous games combined (VF Kids not counting)
It's crazy how inconsistent Ultimate Showdown looks, in some instances it clearly looks better, but there are others where it straight up looks worse. Akira and Jacky's faces' for example they don't look as good aesthetically, and you can see the devs didn't take into consideration how applying the old facial animations to the new faces would look, because we get some really weird expressions throughout. Then there are some stages like Eileen's which look much better in the original, but there are stages like Statues that looks like a major improvement.
The fact that the ps3 version still looks good to this day.
dont understand why they took so long to bring this game for ps4.
So the poly count on the models is technically higher, but I definitely am not a fan of Akira's redesign and some of the missing/changed lighting and post processing. Seems like a very mixed bag depending on whether you prefer the new, technically superior graphics or the old art direction.
This looked great but that's definitely a noticeable upgrade.
The colors pop more, the camera is zoomed into more, actual hit sparks versus the subtle glow, better facial rigging for more expression, etc.
If anything VF6 is going to be great if theu choose to follow up on this.
I’m really surprised that some of the the old backgrounds look better than the new. Especially where water and reflections are concerned.
I think they F#@%3D Up! on Akira's eye brows on the new one. XP LOL!!!!!
I don’t know why but ps3 looks better xD the new one looks too “clean” idk... also, the ps3 version is more impressive for the hardware its running on. The new one looks cheap. Reminds me of shemmue 3 and thats not good.
New one looks lik a cartoon
Can you do Final Showdown vs Ultimate Showdown?
Why not. I'll check if I have it in my collection.
Akira Looks Like Micheal Cera From Scott Pilgrim Vs The World
The original game came out in 2005-06. Looks good if not just as good as tekken 7
Not that Impressive. Tekken Tag 2 and Soul Calibur 4 Looked way better than Tekken 7 Graphically.
@@hurricane7727 tekken 7 had a low budget for some reason
I prefer the PlayStation 3 original
La iluminación de la versión original es la mejor y creo que chocó bastante replicarlo en la última versión para motor de Yakuza.
To be fair it’s more PS3 vs PS4, this new version is a PS4 game
yeah true but even so they didn't do much, a new entry for ps4 would look insanely better
@@melxb 👍👍
why the devs chose to not use higher resolution audio seems very strange, and doesn't sound good.
The graphics look better on PS5 (aside from a few faces; seriously, why does Akira look younger?), but the music isn't nearly as good.
Also, a decade and a half later and yet they still don't know what subtitles are?
Honestly, some of the character models look better on the PS3. Especially in Dead or Alive. Wolf looks especially weird.
The new game looks tons better. OG still looks good tho
Akira's design is better on ps3
I did enjoy Virtua Fighter 5! I did play Virtua Fighter 2!
I like old one it has a better music
I think its pretty obvious that the ps4 remaster was gonna look way better since ps3 was ages ago but clearly I wanted to see VF6. Hopefully if this ultimate showdown meets expectations they will get to work on a bigger entry for the series and that's how this feels...they are testing the waters to see if people are still interested in the VF series before daring to do VF6.
So I don’t have PlayStation, but the 360 Final Showdown version is backwards compatible. Is that version fine?
ps3 better for my taste.
In all for OG gfx but the updated gfx pop more. Brighter color pallete. Why you prefer ps3 over ps5?
Why are you comparing Vanilla to ultimate?
Akira from PS3 is better, PS4/PS5 is strange
That desert stage with the cage and the water looked better on ps3
Looks fine. But why a remaster? VF 5 was a PS3 videogame then is time to think in a sequel.
Lau is definitely the legendary Lan Di from Shenmue.
This game was remixed for PS4 not PS5 that's why the graphics only look slightly better. They should have waited till the end of the year and remade it in Unreal Engine 5 for PS5 if they wanted to show off a big graphic difference.
Or maybe start developing a new game specifically for ps5
Virtua Fighter 6
I don't understand why this game isn't on Xbox and windows?
I just recognize, the render of lighting is quite similar to yakuza like a dragon
5.34. Dat bass. damn.
Who would have thought I would be simping over ps5 akira😳
They should fix Akira's face
The ps3 version was stunning for its time
Thy made a awesome game for ps3, way a head in the graphics department
I HOPE THIS GAME COME TO SWITCH!
The new faces just look wrong to me 😔
The music in the
Ultimate version is awesome
I'll stick to my ps3 version. No need ps4 version of vf5
Lol it free on ps4 and ps5 Lool u do understand its freeeeee lol
@@decuzreidy1278 yesssssss i downloaded it for free. But nothing special new about it. I prefer vf6
VF6 and Tekken 8 need to be made in UE5 at this point, im sorry but fuck the old consoles, they need to skip PS4/XBO this time and go full next-gen graphics.
The couldn't replicate the water effect so they replaced it with sand instead...
take a look akira face ...his face bone strucuture can be seen as human ... he sweeting can be seen ... its PS 5 and PS 4 version look cool
5:01 waaaait a minute 🤔
The sand arena with the muddy water was better, don't know why they got rid of it.
Its because ultimate showdown is based on final showdown which ruined the stages for the most part except for some stages.
Too difficult to appreciate the beauty of VF5US with a 1080p RUclips footage, especially when the bit rate of the original footage was already too low. Try again but capturing the game with a much higher bit rate and uploading a 4K video.
The game isn't 4k and don't have hdr and even not fullscreen
@@nathanlibero1899 not fullscreen????
You do it.
The dragon engine is going to have to get rollback if there is to be a vf6
wtf are you talking about VF6 should be developed in a Cartonny engine not the shitty dragon engine and "RGGstudios" should never make a virtua fighter game again it should be AM2 instead
The faces are terrible in the new ver. How did they get them so wrong?🤦♂️
Pretty damn unimpressive if you ignore that it's free with PS+ at launch. Removal of the swimsuits and other customization options, no Kumite/Quest mode, 1080p cap, the faces, the reflections... not what this long time fan of VF wanted at all. Higher poly counts and better textures are nice, but still less than the bare minimum to expect.
4K?
2:15 Hell no! That's Nina Williams dammit!
Akira looks horrible , I like the 360 and ps3 one better.
Wäre is the Qest mod ?
No way it can be the FINAL showdown. There's more fight left in the legendary SEGA fighter.
It's PS3 Launch Version. Ut's not Final Showdown.
The Yakuza Like a Dragon version is > Both Versions.
Am I stupid or is it a PS3 version of VF5 vs PS5 version of VF5:FS ? That looks pretty weird.
You can't just compare two different games lol
Original version , Akira yuki in face is a man
New version , Akira Yuki in face is a boy
Fix Akira’s nose...PLEASE!
😂 he’s gone for the beated up look. 🤕
Ps3 is better though
🤭🤭🤭🤭
looks so much better
the ps3 one is the bessttt
Not worth buying it for the PS5 if you have it for the PS3... Sega should have ported this to the Switch as well.