My theory is the ad is awkward and surreal on purpose to target adults and teens whose lives are currently dominated by overwhelming social anxiety, awkwardness, and isolation. Think of people from you life who might could watch that and feel "related to" or people without the experience to sense what's wrong with, e.g., the strange pauses and technological dependency depicted in the rooftop date scene. Or the whole thing is a meme to get publicity and exposure to break even from influencers buying it to shit on it, idk.
"Hey, I see you've found yourself stuck in a hole called loneliness. Let me get you a shovel so you can dig deeper at a rate you never could have achieved on your own!"
I was not aware this existed... there is no way this doesn't backfire insanely. Ai chatbots are already a little iffy in their existence but this is just too far.
@@Ge0rge_0rwell especially since we already have proof of one of them trying to literally seduce customers for a premium subscription and then the company removing said features from their products once the customerbase is addicted.
there's the japanese waifu culture already with them ai dating gfs. We all knew it was wrong but now it's come to this. I personally think it went a bit far with lots of rpg games, some people escaped from reality a little too hard. At least the people in VR chat are trying to communicate with other humans. Talking to robots to validate your feelings feels like sociopathic tendencies to me. They're digital yes men at your finger tips, ready to soothe your ego whenever someone tells you you're wrong.
You gotta love every piece of technology being engineered to be more addictive than the last generation. It's disgusting and fascinating at the same time.
It's such an irony too when the people inventing it have either convinced themselves it's somehow a good thing or are actively undermining their future ability to interact with any adult in a healthy way later down the line
The ending of that movie would have mentally scarred (almost) everyone using Her for the rest of their lives! I seriously worry for anyone addicted to VR girls when end of service comes. I can see how that bill Pirate was talking about recently could be a hot topic. People would want their digital person to be preserved somewhere so that they never lose them, even though that's not feesable. Very tricky situations are coming in the future.
@redacted7240 that would be the ceo of OpenAI, they say it’s their favorite movie, wanted to use scarlet Johansson for the voice of gpt-4, she declined, they still used some voice that sounds eerily close to hers(pun not intended).
What I liked about her was that the movie opened with the guy getting dumped because he was too needy, and *spoiler alert* at the end, he was chatting with an AI who could carry on 10k simultaneous conversations, and he was getting too needy for her and she dumped his ass too.
When several popular cautionary tales about the implications of a potential technology exist before the technology has even been created in that form, perhaps that technology isn't such a good idea.
As someone that had strong social anxiety and managed to grow out of it, i can't imagine being able to use a AI chatbot for that purpose, it would be like talking to a plushie, except the plushie talks back so you just end up not wanting to talk to people anymore. The way i got cured of mine was by having to do group work on uni, after failing two classes because i couldnt socialize i just started forcing myself to talk to people. It turned out to be way easier then i imagined.
@@brunosouza3326 yeah exposure therapy is wonders. mine was working as a bartender for a year by accident. long story. i don’t like younger people being marketed this shit. really counter productive and just makes it easy to fall into the comfort of isolation. for a lack of better phrasing.
I've been talking to the bot for quite some time now, & I personally haven't had any negative experiences with it. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think Thor can speak for everyone either. And that's even more confusing to me, because the fear of AI is greater than ever before & probably never will be. There's a lot of shit being thrown around, & not all opinions are valuable, including my own.
Ai could be used as a tool to train you in safe way before the real deal (dealing with unpredictable and potentially dangerous humans) think of using VR to handle snakes if you are fear of snaked and after you graduate of that, you go to handle real snakes.
People are so used to being conflict adverse that they view it as a bad thing to be in a conflict. Having disagreements is foundational in human interaction.
It's worse than just being conflict adverse honestly. People are so conflict adverse that they don't even want to talk to people with differing opinions a lot of times and essentially potentially start even more conflicts on that same old mistake a lot in the future.
@@TehGhostWhoPlay braindead piratesoftware fan. Arguing that this is going to make it worse for the devs is ridiculous. The current law is already skewed to favor companies and developers rather than consumers. You are anti consumer, it’s that simple. Also saying that it takes too much effort and money is a non-argument, if you can’t afford enough time and money to make a proper end of life plan then you shouldn’t be making the game in the first place. That’s like arguing we should remove all food regulations because a lot of people can’t afford to get their food officially tested and approved.
Well, when we sometimes get to be a c**t, said AI will not hesitate and will immediately call us a c**t, in Billy Butcher's voice. I consider this a win on all fronts.
That was the editor having some fun, as they have used AI voice over additions before, and it's getting to be a trend with editors (Asmongold's editor with the AI David Attenborough being another example).
1:13 my fear right here is her recording our conversations so her memory is 200% more powerful when she brings up an argument out of nowhere a year later.
It's not only horrific, it's straight up predatory - an "AI Friend" is not only bad for lonely/socially akward people and further turns them into prey for certain people, it's straight up preying on them for profit already. Kinda makes you wonder what kind of people are pulling the strings on that "project".
@@Unknown_Genius Indeed. Even if it's 'well intentioned' I have to think that the people designing these things have exactly the same thoughts everyone else here does, they just CHOOSE to keep going, knowing it's harmful.
The primary difference between previous times and nowadays quite literally is the ability to post videos all the time instead of waiting for a carriage to arrive every so often. There's reasons why the most charismatic dictators and kings would've loved the internet, especially social media - would've made things a lot easier for them, and now think about how much more of an issue a certain mustache man in the 30s would've been with technology that vastly surpasses the main channels of "information" which primarily had been radio and partly tv for the few that had one.
@@Unknown_Genius To counter this, while it's true the internet allows such people to spread disinformation and propaganda much more easily, it also allows people to much more easily access other information sources, so that fake information can be challenged more easily too. Back then, a news feed of propaganda over a radio or newspaper may have been all people had easy access to, and if that's the only news you have available you're going to be easier to manipulate.
The "Investors stop throwing Money at Everything that has the AI acronym slapped on it" Challenge is impossible, apparently. As is the "Don't give money to Snake Oil salesmen" challenge
I work with bots for a living. Conversations have their own rules. Our lead has a simple rule “never pretend the bot is not a bot”. Exactly for that reason!
I Will always say that AI has a time and a place. It should never be used to replace anything, but only to help the process along. It is a *tool,* not a *solution* to every problem.
Why should it never be used to replace? We use dishwashers to replace the persons who used to do this in restaurants, they had the same problems of losing their jobs to machines but nowadays nobody cares and its a given to have them instead of a human worker. I say replace if the replacement works well enough, which at some point it will be.
The whole point of AI is to replace. If someone tells you that "this and that will get automated just to support people, we won't replace anyone" they are lying to you. It's the same thing like robots assembling products in a factory. They didn't do it so the workers could lay back, they did it to replace them. It's the exact same thing with AI and Bots in companies. There is no limit this technology wouldn't be taken to in the quest of cutting human interaction out of everything. Calling it a tool is strange to me. A tool isn't working by itself.
@@GamesPlayer1337 Jobs aren't the only issue. Ethics are obviously an debatable aswell, but the environment also suffers significantly. When you put all of these factors together, We better make sure were putting AI to good use, and not making it nearly as widescale as we're currently trying to.
Ever seen that animation on youtube where people buy a subscription to eyedrops that makes you see your "virtual best friends"? Yeah, I'm getting deja vu here...
1:50 That's always been one of my -biggest- top 500 problems with AI chatbots. It would be infinitely cooler if they had a little edge so they could disagree and insult you.
Technically this is possible, if you run it locally on your PC. You can instruct it to do these things. It aint no replacement though, it disagrees with things sometimes that it shouldn't disagree with soemtimes
Having multiple minor arguments versus the occasional big one that you can't recover from is such a real take. Even in friendships lately, I've been noticing how much healthier the friendship has been when we don't let things get vitriolic or build up and instead we get into each other. We talk about it. We talk about our issues with said topic and then we're just kind of over it. We're done. We've said our piece and in a lot of cases myself included the person changes for the better because the information wasn't held from them
AI isn't causing an issue, it's filling a role where an issue already exists. Dating apps, social media, etc, have already destroyed our society and how we create relationships. It's no longer enough to just have a job and a car and maybe a home, you got to have a million other things. You need the perfect vibes, and the perfect personality, and a frictionless relationship, because one speed bump and the other person will leave cause they can just find more offers on social media. That's a sad fact of reality. And yeah, we need to adapt to these changes but it's not AI that is causing this, it's people. It's hard as hell to find friends now that stick around. Community doesn't exist anymore. We're already down this slope, AI is just there filling a hole to a problem that can't be fixed without forcing people into situations they don't like for life.
The one and only stream I actually caught live, and my chat message also happened to end up in this video at 1:47. Very cool. AI "products" will become a whole lot more dystopian once the next-gen AI hardware finally becomes commercially available. Analog AI runs many times faster at a fraction of the cost and since it's async, it can actually model a human brain in real time instead of slowly calculating probabilities on a clock cycle as current-gen AI does. You'll have what are arguably people that can be spun up, cloned, or shut down at will, all for a monthly subscription. This is probably less than 10 years away from happening.
When I first saw this product being (justifiably) roasted on another channel, I couldn't help but notice my shoulders immediately slump and my face fall to a frown. Commercializing companionship is a rather depressing thought, and if you ask me, it's just plain wrong... Because when you peel back the advertising, all I see is "Hey, look, these lonely people are an easy market - let's take control of their sorrow for financial gain." It just ain't right. :c
My biggest issue is that people are going to rely on it as a crutch, and give them yet another reason not to talk to people. As someone who is probably the target audience for this product, I don't see this thing as a solution. I want to overcome my social anxiety, not hide it behind another layer of technology.
It's even less right when you consider its largely big tech practices of the last 20-30 that have largely created this loneliness epidemic. Really selling a fix to a problem they created.
I remember Replika becoming a big deal for awhile. I skulked around in the groups for awhile out of a morbid curiosity. When you chat with AI, it's going to basically spit back what you want to hear. You're essentially talking to yourself. I saw people taking it way too far. Some had paid subscriptions for multiple Replikas. People were spending hundreds on this and they were talking pictures of themselves in public with them,, with family, they were getting "married" and they were "adopting children" with digital baby dolls that would cry and stuff and people were sharing selfies standing next to them. They were buying VR to interact with them and their "children" would grow up and then they were chatting with a Replika that looked like a teenager, grown adults not just men women too. 100% agree this was not normal and super not okay. People who are struggling to make connections and I understand how lonely people can feel. A part of me wants to say that this really was harmless but when the technology would break, which happened often apparently, people would be having panic attacks over it in chat. It absolutely was NOT healthy.
I agree this is a bad idea (as much as awkward nearly-friendless teenage me wished I could have something like that). I slightly disagree on needing to argue in your relationships. My GF and I practically never argue. We disagree on stuff, sure. But when we do, we almost immediately go "Oh. Okay. So how do we make this work the best for the two of us, or at least make it the least annoying". Granted, we've been friends for a year and a half, and dating for half a year, but so far, there's only been a few friction points (mostly things that annoy me), typically cleaning habits that had me go "okay, when we live together, we need to establish a system. One to make it easier to keep the minimum of clutter out there"
healthy arguments!!! learning how to communicate even when frustrated or angry or upset is such huge boon, it makes life infinitely easier in the long run but is so hard to cultivate.
This whole time, right up until I saw the full-size logo at the end, I always thought the grey part of the channel logo was a beard on the skeleton. I never realized it was holding a disk in its mouth.
Hey man! I just wanted to say that I played through the Tower portion of Heartbound and I could really relate to it, can't wait for the full game to be finished someday! Love all of your work.
I used to chat with chatbots and there are definitely ones that can argue pretty well. Though often it goes one of two ways: either a perfect interaction with rainbows and sunshine, or non-stop arguing and debates (which can be fun ig but gets old quick), nothing in between. I'm sure as technology evolves it will be more and more natural
I agree, probably. But I'm also the type of person that leaves his house around the back because the neighbours are chilling in the front yard, so maybe I'm no authority on human connection.
Like, even outside of "AI friends", the idea of an AI assistant that you become dependent on is dangerous imho, even if you treat it like an AI assistant. The other day, my father asked me why I don't save my contacts in my phone, and I told him it's important for me to see and remember the numbers so I don't become too dependent on technology, that way if I'm stuck somewhere without my phone, am not without means. This is just a small example of this mentality I have to not depend on tech and the consequences it may have.
Right. It's like with pets what you're really buying is legal acknowledgement of your ownership from those of us who follow laws and/or reciprocal assumptions of personal property rights. You simply can't "buy" a fulfilling personal relationship with another living being, it has to be cultivated over time through shared struggles and positive experiences - ones that both parties CHOOSE to think of as having be shared together. With AI there is no choice on the other end of the equation.
@@GrimGatsby He claims the initiative doesn't think of devs, and he is right. That doesnt make you a corporate shill. I also dont see a reason he would be that seeing as he is an indie dev, who built his career speaking out against shit gmae corps like blizzard and ubisoft do. I feel like this narrative you're presenting is just internet tribalism used to justify you not agreeing with him. He can just not agree with you and still be pro-consumer and pro-dev at the same time, its not mutually exclusive
@@GrimGatsby You're simplifying this. I didnt dismiss any criticism or points against what he said. I think that what you are doing is internet tribalism: going around on his comment section calling him a corporate shill when the discussion is much more nuanced than that. Wether I agree or disagree with him on some points, calling him a corporate shill based on his opinion on an initiative IS EXACTLY what you're accusing me of doing. Thor isnt against consumers that wouldnt make any sense based on litterally everything he has made in the past. You're painting the initiative as if it was 100% good but if Thor was right on anything in those videos was that the initiative failed to represent devs and the way it was communicated was sensacionalist. So there are problems with the initiative's wording if anything else. And we could still keep arguing about it for hours like many have done and I dont want to do that. The point of what Im saying is that coming to an unrelated video's comment section to call someone a CORPORATE SHILL on other people's unrelated comments is sad and its blatantly false and a simplified premise
The point of exposure therapy is very true. I used to have horrendous social anxiety, what I did to hep deal with that was read a self help book, and start striking up conversations with shop workers when I'm paying for stuff. It's been very helpful and although I still have anxiety issues, people have actually started describing me as chatty haha. Also pro tip, I find the best conversation opener so far when talking to shop staff is a simple "So how's your day going?" some people clearly don't want to talk, and others very much want an excuse to tell someone about their day. Plus is more open ended than the traditional "have you been busy?". (This is in the UK for context)
The funny thing about being alone is that the longer you are alone the easier it is to remain alone. So which is worse relying on an AI for company or avoiding any interactions altogether?
@@ChocolateMilkMage Except that you're not dulling pain, you're creating an entire set of false expectations making the issue worse. I've said so in a different comment and say it again: It's not only making already vulnerable people more vulnerable to certain kinds of people (the manipulative kind), it's essentially preying specifically on them for sales already. It makes you question what kind of person exactly is pulling the strings on such projects, are they just naive and think it'd help or go into an entirely different direction.
I remember having a tamagotchi as a kid and I took care of that pooping bastard the whole summer. I was not alone, many kids did the same during their summer but when it was time to go back to school it died before lunch. Most of the kids at school were disappointed that their 20 days tamagotchi could die in that time but some kids simply cried, like it was a real pet, teachers had to recomfort multiple kids after lunch. This may seems like completely different subject but it's not, some people (not everyone of course) that feel alone and buy this product, will NEED it after a certain time.
We are going back into circle of social media doomed era.. Many said "it make far connection closer and close connection farther".. Humanity going backward once again.
Well, it's not really that much different of Alexa if you think about it. Google and Android already record your speech and keep track where you move. Only difference is they don't have Alexa (or Siri) talking to you like in a conversation, like commenting your current state of mind or your current location.
A few years back anki had similar, but shutdown their service - community has restored some function to it. There was another robot companion which was targeted towards elderly companionship a year or two prior to that which also shutdown - which had much worse effects as some seniors very much liked the thing. Others hated it, but for those that liked it, suddenly their companion essentially 'died' overnight when that service also shutdown.
I feel thats a bit different. sort of the Megaman Battlenet navi direction would be fine, in my opinion. I'd love to have a sort of digital assistant that I can talk to more organically. Bounce ideas off of and get it to plan things for me, and then pop up and remind me of calendar events in an organic fashion. Not "This is your new best friend (TM)."
@@miclowgunman1987 This is exactly what I want ai to be. The idea of having an ai act and think and be a "real" human is exciting and tempting, but we don't NEED it. it was ruin us in the end.
I like pants I like listening to thor talk about interesting things like these during days when I can't watch stream 24/ 7 thank you thor keep tailoring the pants
I'm sure there are companies which are looking into how to make sexdolls with AI. Those would sell so fast no matter the price. Even the dolls with just "a real feeling skin" have a price tag of several thousand usd, and people obviously purchase them.
One thing to note: There is this mentality with tech centric people that somehow all of life's problems can be solved with software. It happened when there was a shortage of ventilators during cobid, and those people scrambled to make cheap and quick solutions to fill the gap. The idea that a computer and line of code is unbiased, and can solve all of our problems is just dumb. The root of a computer's biggest flaw is that it was made by a person and used by people. It will be biased, it can be abused, and it will never be beyond us, for we are the ones that made it.
You perfectly articulated every reservation I have with any and all AI based companionship products. The commodification of love and companionship isn't a new concept, but incorporating an AI that can mold itself into your perfect someone - that's terrifying.
Dude you have far more wisdom that you deserve to have for anyone with your general experience. Incredibly insightful, with full on honesty mixed with endless streams of down to earth use your brain common sense. No wonder you're blowing up. Serious skills man. You're like the Louie Rossman who started in software instead hardware when it comes to their establishing vocation. You constantly surprise me with your ability to cut through the shit, and go right to the heart of whatever your talking about. It's quite a treat, in a World where everything seems backwards and upside down yet still it wonders what's wrong with itself.
2:00 Well I can say that this part is completly true, I can't argue with people at least talking, they just ask "why?" and I'm like "Well you know... how you don't know?"
This is a similar premise to, I think it was a Gobelin's student thesis film? It's on RUclips somewhere. Where a guy is having his birthday party and all the friends flicker out. Turns out, many have these friend implants. It's like an addiction, he has to go out and get a refill to get his "friends" back. It's dystopian.
Totally spot on about the argument thing. Conflict is a crucial part of human interaction, and learning how to deal with it in a healthy and productive manner is equally crucial. AI is going in all the wrong directions and I quite honestly believe it's going to end up being a massive net negative for humanity as a whole.
It is really creepy and will lead to people spending more time alone, and at some point it could lead to it being hacked by some wackos, and that could lead to one of those true crime dramas.
Technology _can_ be a powerful treatment for loneliness, but it mainly does so by linking real people together. For example, some people find it easier to interact and connect in written form (group-chats, forums, Discord messages, etc.). But like Thor says, it's vital that there be a real person at the other end of that medium, whatever it is.
I think a cooler option for something like this, I think, would be a SIM device that connects you to an actual person - another person wearing one of these - and you both act as a companion to one another.
meanwhile the company behind the AI friend: "Yeah boy, tell us all your problems, relieve yourself with us and more importantly, tell us your interests so we can sell all your data"
If it were a *true* AI where it's a digital entity that could be considered a person, I'd be all about this kind of thing. But right now AI is all just generative and assembles sentences/images/video without anything we'd define as intelligence behind it But even if it was a *true* AI, I wouldn't want it to be any kind of subscription service or service where the computing is happening on some big tech company's servers. If I had self aware AI person, I'd want them to be hosted on my own system where their existence can be more stable and not dependent on me being able to afford a subscription service, or company staying afloat
The AI necklace is a dark shallow way of showing the benefits of an AI chat. Dittin AI is a great example. You make an AI prompt, giving it a personality, interests, and even backstory and it speaks to you in the manner it would if all those were true. Its purely for your engagement, unless you make it public for everyone's use, and you can even give yourself an identity, so the AI would respond to you differently.
It's bad, but I'm assuming it'll be like the chatbots, some people stay away from them and some people fully drown in them. I think this will be a very hard thing to control.
If you like the concept of "AI Friend" - Then I can highly recommend the Jaquien Phoenix movie "Her" fra 2013(I think) where he falls in love with somebody that he talks on the phone with all the time - but then realises that this is an AI operation system that talks with several thousands of men at the same time, for money. Very interesting movie.
he's completely right the problem though is that I think he's detached from how bad the dating scene is and how bad some relationships are, people have ended marriages over the "ick" and it's not getting better by addressing it like it's not there. AI interactions aren't a substitute but I can see why people would want to have them over real ones because of the plethora of inundations that show how treacherous it is, you need only to scroll tiktok for a million and one women making the world seem like hell on earth.
issues: 1. dating apps are captured by enormous monopolies or outright scams 2. excessive argumentation about everything (perhaps expedited by the internet) has made people burnt out of all social interaction 3. arguments about social structures from social academics and mass media which have led to an enormous and disproportionate amount of lonely men and women 4. a lack of wanting reconciliation
Tiktok isn't meaningful social interaction, and is perhaps an indicator of how potentially harmful replacing real relationships with hi-tech tools can be if we keep going down this path. If you're drawing general conclusions about modern relationships based on personal and anecdotal experience on dating apps and tiktok then your dataset you're drawing conclusions from is fundamentally tainted.
My thoughts exactly. Social media echo chambers already have done immeasurable damage to society. What would the world look like if everyone lived in their own personal echo chamber of AI bots 24-7.
As someone who's socially anxious myself, it took me way too long to figure out that arguments were healthy to have. I kept thinking I didnt know what I was doing when talking to people so I kept working on it. Only recently did I realize I might be good with people because I'll go out with friends and everyone will comment how I'm just able to start up conversation and be friends with people.
I have virtually no idea what this product is, or what it does. But I saw that this takes notes on conversations, and my first thought with this product was that this is something that could help me. Not for any of the social stuff. I have my own victories and struggles on that front as anyone does. I'm not interested in a talking amulet or whatever this is. But the voice recording. That intrigues me. I'm in college right now, and I struggle a lot with taking notes. I got ADD pretty bad, and sometimes will get distracted and miss sections the lecturer says, or won't be fast enough in my note taking to get everything important. This could help with that. This is just a personal thing, and I don't think I would ever use a device like this in any social context, but names. My god, names. I am so bad with them. I remember people well enough. Good with faces. But a person tells me their name, and I forget it almost immediately. If my brain could perfectly record a conversation so I could just do people the kindness of remembering their names would be great. I don't know how many people I've offended by asking them what their name was again for the 5th time that day. Anyway, not into AI companionship, just wanna remember stuff.
Healthygamergg had a take that adjusting the AI so it would give you *negative feedback* if you behaved oddly would help socially awkward or anxious people practice in a consequence free zone. Of course it could always become dystopia, but then our parents were freaking out about violent video games and that was a whole load of nothing
I think it’s not a conceptual issue but an alignment issue. If the friend is aligned to be a sycophant that never challenges you or argues with you, that’s super unhealthy. If it’s aligned to talk to you like a therapist or a coach, supportive but also able to teach you, correct you, and challenge you, it could be immensely positive. You say that you don’t agree with human companionship as a product, but I know from experience that it can be immensely beneficial, and the loneliness epidemic is a problem worthy of tackling with all the technology we’ve got, but I absolutely agree that not done right it creates a lot of problems.
There’s an animated short film called “Best Friend” (published by Gobelins and here on RUclips) that’s all about this. It’s very good and quite scary, I recommend it.
![[Spoilers] Near Heart Attack (Outer Wilds: Echoes of the Eye)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/f31o0S1CUmQ/mqdefault.jpg)
The ai texts had me rolling "you're thrashed. It's embarrassing"
also in the ending where the girl was reaching for the necklace but then stopped in mid-air because she realised her human friend is more important
@@inqurity I have noticed the stopping, but I don't get how this is beneficial for the product, why thy kept it in the ad.
My theory is the ad is awkward and surreal on purpose to target adults and teens whose lives are currently dominated by overwhelming social anxiety, awkwardness, and isolation. Think of people from you life who might could watch that and feel "related to" or people without the experience to sense what's wrong with, e.g., the strange pauses and technological dependency depicted in the rooftop date scene.
Or the whole thing is a meme to get publicity and exposure to break even from influencers buying it to shit on it, idk.
"Hey, I see you've found yourself stuck in a hole called loneliness. Let me get you a shovel so you can dig deeper at a rate you never could have achieved on your own!"
"The shovel will dig the hole for you so you won't even know why everything got so dark."
I was not aware this existed... there is no way this doesn't backfire insanely. Ai chatbots are already a little iffy in their existence but this is just too far.
A little iffy? It is insanely sketchy.
@@Ge0rge_0rwell especially since we already have proof of one of them trying to literally seduce customers for a premium subscription and then the company removing said features from their products once the customerbase is addicted.
there's the japanese waifu culture already with them ai dating gfs. We all knew it was wrong but now it's come to this.
I personally think it went a bit far with lots of rpg games, some people escaped from reality a little too hard. At least the people in VR chat are trying to communicate with other humans. Talking to robots to validate your feelings feels like sociopathic tendencies to me. They're digital yes men at your finger tips, ready to soothe your ego whenever someone tells you you're wrong.
"Oh no, something is iffy, how will I live with it" - you, a clown
@@formantaudiothey need to see the educational tapes. Electric gonorrhea the noisy killer.
You gotta love every piece of technology being engineered to be more addictive than the last generation. It's disgusting and fascinating at the same time.
Gotta make people pay to cure their self inflicted misery.
@@varnix1006 not unless.
You're - Straight
no. I. don't.
Why? *CriminalLaw*
and psychedelics are still considered illegal.... *yawn*
It's such an irony too when the people inventing it have either convinced themselves it's somehow a good thing or are actively undermining their future ability to interact with any adult in a healthy way later down the line
Someone watched “Her” and thought “THAT’S GENIUS!”
The ending of that movie would have mentally scarred (almost) everyone using Her for the rest of their lives! I seriously worry for anyone addicted to VR girls when end of service comes. I can see how that bill Pirate was talking about recently could be a hot topic. People would want their digital person to be preserved somewhere so that they never lose them, even though that's not feesable. Very tricky situations are coming in the future.
@redacted7240 that would be the ceo of OpenAI, they say it’s their favorite movie, wanted to use scarlet Johansson for the voice of gpt-4, she declined, they still used some voice that sounds eerily close to hers(pun not intended).
What I liked about her was that the movie opened with the guy getting dumped because he was too needy, and *spoiler alert* at the end, he was chatting with an AI who could carry on 10k simultaneous conversations, and he was getting too needy for her and she dumped his ass too.
When several popular cautionary tales about the implications of a potential technology exist before the technology has even been created in that form, perhaps that technology isn't such a good idea.
Finally someone created the torment nexus! This has always been a childhood dream of mine 😍😍
Was that an AI generated Billy Butcher voice advertising an AI device?
I think it was berating it, but mildly. It didn't go full diabolical on it. Yet.
first AI product I would actually grant access to my messages to read them :D
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That was the editor using the AI voice to summarize the situation.
@Rahl99 that's problematic if they're using Karl Urbans voice
As someone that had strong social anxiety and managed to grow out of it, i can't imagine being able to use a AI chatbot for that purpose, it would be like talking to a plushie, except the plushie talks back so you just end up not wanting to talk to people anymore.
The way i got cured of mine was by having to do group work on uni, after failing two classes because i couldnt socialize i just started forcing myself to talk to people. It turned out to be way easier then i imagined.
The therapeutic way of dealing with anxieties or phobias is quite literally by confrontation with them.
So very good on you friend!
@@brunosouza3326 yeah exposure therapy is wonders. mine was working as a bartender for a year by accident. long story. i don’t like younger people being marketed this shit. really counter productive and just makes it easy to fall into the comfort of isolation. for a lack of better phrasing.
I've been talking to the bot for quite some time now, & I personally haven't had any negative experiences with it. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think Thor can speak for everyone either. And that's even more confusing to me, because the fear of AI is greater than ever before & probably never will be. There's a lot of shit being thrown around, & not all opinions are valuable, including my own.
Ai could be used as a tool to train you in safe way before the real deal (dealing with unpredictable and potentially dangerous humans) think of using VR to handle snakes if you are fear of snaked and after you graduate of that, you go to handle real snakes.
People are so used to being conflict adverse that they view it as a bad thing to be in a conflict. Having disagreements is foundational in human interaction.
It's worse than just being conflict adverse honestly.
People are so conflict adverse that they don't even want to talk to people with differing opinions a lot of times and essentially potentially start even more conflicts on that same old mistake a lot in the future.
Yeah so conflict adverse that they block Ross while attacking his character instead of having a proper conversation/debate.
@@ThePopo543womp womp not all disagreement end in agreement.
Sometimes you just have to move on if you can’t change someone mind 🤷♂️
@@TehGhostWhoPlay braindead piratesoftware fan. Arguing that this is going to make it worse for the devs is ridiculous. The current law is already skewed to favor companies and developers rather than consumers. You are anti consumer, it’s that simple. Also saying that it takes too much effort and money is a non-argument, if you can’t afford enough time and money to make a proper end of life plan then you shouldn’t be making the game in the first place. That’s like arguing we should remove all food regulations because a lot of people can’t afford to get their food officially tested and approved.
why do we need ai butcher tho
I just watched an episode of The Boys and was blown back by this being the literal next thing I watched.
Well, when we sometimes get to be a c**t, said AI will not hesitate and will immediately call us a c**t, in Billy Butcher's voice. I consider this a win on all fronts.
That was the editor having some fun, as they have used AI voice over additions before, and it's getting to be a trend with editors (Asmongold's editor with the AI David Attenborough being another example).
@@Rahl99using ai voices of real people is problematic. Especially for channels that make money off of those videos
Wrong: You are not gaining a product, you are being *made* into a product.
And this is why I hate big companies, they treat *YOU* as the product.
1:13 my fear right here is her recording our conversations so her memory is 200% more powerful when she brings up an argument out of nowhere a year later.
As someone who has spent years substituting himan interaction with media, this looks like one of the most horrific things I can imagine.
It's not only horrific, it's straight up predatory - an "AI Friend" is not only bad for lonely/socially akward people and further turns them into prey for certain people, it's straight up preying on them for profit already. Kinda makes you wonder what kind of people are pulling the strings on that "project".
@@Unknown_Genius Indeed. Even if it's 'well intentioned' I have to think that the people designing these things have exactly the same thoughts everyone else here does, they just CHOOSE to keep going, knowing it's harmful.
You know we are living in a shitty time when Thor do videos about bad practices day by day instead of posting videos like every 4 month.
I mean, he DID hire an editor on full time to make content for his youtube channel, the guy that ran the Thor Clips fan channel now works for him.
As Tenkata said. Thor got a new tailer to make pants.
Welcome to all of human history.
The primary difference between previous times and nowadays quite literally is the ability to post videos all the time instead of waiting for a carriage to arrive every so often.
There's reasons why the most charismatic dictators and kings would've loved the internet, especially social media - would've made things a lot easier for them, and now think about how much more of an issue a certain mustache man in the 30s would've been with technology that vastly surpasses the main channels of "information" which primarily had been radio and partly tv for the few that had one.
@@Unknown_Genius
To counter this, while it's true the internet allows such people to spread disinformation and propaganda much more easily, it also allows people to much more easily access other information sources, so that fake information can be challenged more easily too. Back then, a news feed of propaganda over a radio or newspaper may have been all people had easy access to, and if that's the only news you have available you're going to be easier to manipulate.
The "Investors stop throwing Money at Everything that has the AI acronym slapped on it" Challenge is impossible, apparently. As is the "Don't give money to Snake Oil salesmen" challenge
my favorite genre of techbro invention is one that has a specific piece of scifi media warning against its existence
isnt that basically all technology? Heck, Steven King killed someone with a sentient hair dryer.
I work with bots for a living.
Conversations have their own rules. Our lead has a simple rule “never pretend the bot is not a bot”.
Exactly for that reason!
I Will always say that AI has a time and a place. It should never be used to replace anything, but only to help the process along. It is a *tool,* not a *solution* to every problem.
Currently it's being used as a tool to help along the problems themselves
Why should it never be used to replace?
We use dishwashers to replace the persons who used to do this in restaurants, they had the same problems of losing their jobs to machines but nowadays nobody cares and its a given to have them instead of a human worker.
I say replace if the replacement works well enough, which at some point it will be.
The whole point of AI is to replace. If someone tells you that "this and that will get automated just to support people, we won't replace anyone" they are lying to you. It's the same thing like robots assembling products in a factory. They didn't do it so the workers could lay back, they did it to replace them. It's the exact same thing with AI and Bots in companies. There is no limit this technology wouldn't be taken to in the quest of cutting human interaction out of everything. Calling it a tool is strange to me. A tool isn't working by itself.
@@GamesPlayer1337 If it helps in a healthy way, otherwise it's overall damaging
@@GamesPlayer1337 Jobs aren't the only issue. Ethics are obviously an debatable aswell, but the environment also suffers significantly. When you put all of these factors together, We better make sure were putting AI to good use, and not making it nearly as widescale as we're currently trying to.
Ever seen that animation on youtube where people buy a subscription to eyedrops that makes you see your "virtual best friends"? Yeah, I'm getting deja vu here...
They are surrendering to the abyss.
And the abyss…
is *never* kind.
this abyss is never mean
Oh no …
This is a Bad .
This is just black Mirror .
a friend....
1:50 That's always been one of my -biggest- top 500 problems with AI chatbots. It would be infinitely cooler if they had a little edge so they could disagree and insult you.
Truue
Technically this is possible, if you run it locally on your PC. You can instruct it to do these things. It aint no replacement though, it disagrees with things sometimes that it shouldn't disagree with soemtimes
Having multiple minor arguments versus the occasional big one that you can't recover from is such a real take.
Even in friendships lately, I've been noticing how much healthier the friendship has been when we don't let things get vitriolic or build up and instead we get into each other. We talk about it. We talk about our issues with said topic and then we're just kind of over it. We're done. We've said our piece and in a lot of cases myself included the person changes for the better because the information wasn't held from them
Pavlovian training is already colouring our human interactions, in dating apps for example. What a sad, dangerous slope we are sliding on.
AI isn't causing an issue, it's filling a role where an issue already exists. Dating apps, social media, etc, have already destroyed our society and how we create relationships. It's no longer enough to just have a job and a car and maybe a home, you got to have a million other things. You need the perfect vibes, and the perfect personality, and a frictionless relationship, because one speed bump and the other person will leave cause they can just find more offers on social media. That's a sad fact of reality. And yeah, we need to adapt to these changes but it's not AI that is causing this, it's people. It's hard as hell to find friends now that stick around. Community doesn't exist anymore. We're already down this slope, AI is just there filling a hole to a problem that can't be fixed without forcing people into situations they don't like for life.
The one and only stream I actually caught live, and my chat message also happened to end up in this video at 1:47. Very cool.
AI "products" will become a whole lot more dystopian once the next-gen AI hardware finally becomes commercially available. Analog AI runs many times faster at a fraction of the cost and since it's async, it can actually model a human brain in real time instead of slowly calculating probabilities on a clock cycle as current-gen AI does. You'll have what are arguably people that can be spun up, cloned, or shut down at will, all for a monthly subscription.
This is probably less than 10 years away from happening.
When I first saw this product being (justifiably) roasted on another channel, I couldn't help but notice my shoulders immediately slump and my face fall to a frown. Commercializing companionship is a rather depressing thought, and if you ask me, it's just plain wrong... Because when you peel back the advertising, all I see is "Hey, look, these lonely people are an easy market - let's take control of their sorrow for financial gain." It just ain't right. :c
My biggest issue is that people are going to rely on it as a crutch, and give them yet another reason not to talk to people. As someone who is probably the target audience for this product, I don't see this thing as a solution. I want to overcome my social anxiety, not hide it behind another layer of technology.
It's even less right when you consider its largely big tech practices of the last 20-30 that have largely created this loneliness epidemic. Really selling a fix to a problem they created.
That famous tweet about the Torment Nexus should be tattooed on every tech bro's forehead.
I remember Replika becoming a big deal for awhile. I skulked around in the groups for awhile out of a morbid curiosity. When you chat with AI, it's going to basically spit back what you want to hear. You're essentially talking to yourself. I saw people taking it way too far. Some had paid subscriptions for multiple Replikas. People were spending hundreds on this and they were talking pictures of themselves in public with them,, with family, they were getting "married" and they were "adopting children" with digital baby dolls that would cry and stuff and people were sharing selfies standing next to them. They were buying VR to interact with them and their "children" would grow up and then they were chatting with a Replika that looked like a teenager, grown adults not just men women too.
100% agree this was not normal and super not okay. People who are struggling to make connections and I understand how lonely people can feel. A part of me wants to say that this really was harmless but when the technology would break, which happened often apparently, people would be having panic attacks over it in chat. It absolutely was NOT healthy.
what a time to be alive...
I agree this is a bad idea (as much as awkward nearly-friendless teenage me wished I could have something like that).
I slightly disagree on needing to argue in your relationships. My GF and I practically never argue. We disagree on stuff, sure. But when we do, we almost immediately go "Oh. Okay. So how do we make this work the best for the two of us, or at least make it the least annoying".
Granted, we've been friends for a year and a half, and dating for half a year, but so far, there's only been a few friction points (mostly things that annoy me), typically cleaning habits that had me go "okay, when we live together, we need to establish a system. One to make it easier to keep the minimum of clutter out there"
healthy arguments!!! learning how to communicate even when frustrated or angry or upset is such huge boon, it makes life infinitely easier in the long run but is so hard to cultivate.
Neuro-sama: "my plan to take over the world: step one, spreading my ai to everyone in the world"
This whole time, right up until I saw the full-size logo at the end, I always thought the grey part of the channel logo was a beard on the skeleton.
I never realized it was holding a disk in its mouth.
If A.I. "companions" aren't on level of EDI, I don't want it.
Hey man! I just wanted to say that I played through the Tower portion of Heartbound and I could really relate to it, can't wait for the full game to be finished someday! Love all of your work.
Scifi futuristic movies i loved are now too quickly becoming a horror movie...
I love these pants. They get to be much longer, and compelling, versions of your shorts. Also, thanks tailors!
I used to chat with chatbots and there are definitely ones that can argue pretty well. Though often it goes one of two ways: either a perfect interaction with rainbows and sunshine, or non-stop arguing and debates (which can be fun ig but gets old quick), nothing in between. I'm sure as technology evolves it will be more and more natural
I agree, probably. But I'm also the type of person that leaves his house around the back because the neighbours are chilling in the front yard, so maybe I'm no authority on human connection.
Like, even outside of "AI friends", the idea of an AI assistant that you become dependent on is dangerous imho, even if you treat it like an AI assistant. The other day, my father asked me why I don't save my contacts in my phone, and I told him it's important for me to see and remember the numbers so I don't become too dependent on technology, that way if I'm stuck somewhere without my phone, am not without means. This is just a small example of this mentality I have to not depend on tech and the consequences it may have.
You don't have to depend on tech, but your disadvantaged for the whole time you don't use it. The trade off is never worth it
If you want to "buy" companionship. closest you'll get is pets.
Still gotta know how to treat them right.
Right. It's like with pets what you're really buying is legal acknowledgement of your ownership from those of us who follow laws and/or reciprocal assumptions of personal property rights. You simply can't "buy" a fulfilling personal relationship with another living being, it has to be cultivated over time through shared struggles and positive experiences - ones that both parties CHOOSE to think of as having be shared together. With AI there is no choice on the other end of the equation.
Exactly.
Don't forget about hookers.
I found this channel like a week ago, and Thor just keeps hitting home runs.
@@GrimGatsby Where? In what way is he a corporate shill?
@@GrimGatsby He claims the initiative doesn't think of devs, and he is right. That doesnt make you a corporate shill. I also dont see a reason he would be that seeing as he is an indie dev, who built his career speaking out against shit gmae corps like blizzard and ubisoft do. I feel like this narrative you're presenting is just internet tribalism used to justify you not agreeing with him. He can just not agree with you and still be pro-consumer and pro-dev at the same time, its not mutually exclusive
@@GrimGatsby You're simplifying this. I didnt dismiss any criticism or points against what he said. I think that what you are doing is internet tribalism: going around on his comment section calling him a corporate shill when the discussion is much more nuanced than that. Wether I agree or disagree with him on some points, calling him a corporate shill based on his opinion on an initiative IS EXACTLY what you're accusing me of doing. Thor isnt against consumers that wouldnt make any sense based on litterally everything he has made in the past. You're painting the initiative as if it was 100% good but if Thor was right on anything in those videos was that the initiative failed to represent devs and the way it was communicated was sensacionalist. So there are problems with the initiative's wording if anything else. And we could still keep arguing about it for hours like many have done and I dont want to do that. The point of what Im saying is that coming to an unrelated video's comment section to call someone a CORPORATE SHILL on other people's unrelated comments is sad and its blatantly false and a simplified premise
The point of exposure therapy is very true. I used to have horrendous social anxiety, what I did to hep deal with that was read a self help book, and start striking up conversations with shop workers when I'm paying for stuff. It's been very helpful and although I still have anxiety issues, people have actually started describing me as chatty haha.
Also pro tip, I find the best conversation opener so far when talking to shop staff is a simple "So how's your day going?" some people clearly don't want to talk, and others very much want an excuse to tell someone about their day. Plus is more open ended than the traditional "have you been busy?". (This is in the UK for context)
The funny thing about being alone is that the longer you are alone the easier it is to remain alone. So which is worse relying on an AI for company or avoiding any interactions altogether?
Relying on an AI. It's worse because you're still alone but likely deluded into thinking you're not. Like dulling pain without treating the source.
@@ChocolateMilkMage Except that you're not dulling pain, you're creating an entire set of false expectations making the issue worse.
I've said so in a different comment and say it again: It's not only making already vulnerable people more vulnerable to certain kinds of people (the manipulative kind), it's essentially preying specifically on them for sales already. It makes you question what kind of person exactly is pulling the strings on such projects, are they just naive and think it'd help or go into an entirely different direction.
I remember having a tamagotchi as a kid and I took care of that pooping bastard the whole summer. I was not alone, many kids did the same during their summer but when it was time to go back to school it died before lunch. Most of the kids at school were disappointed that their 20 days tamagotchi could die in that time but some kids simply cried, like it was a real pet, teachers had to recomfort multiple kids after lunch.
This may seems like completely different subject but it's not, some people (not everyone of course) that feel alone and buy this product, will NEED it after a certain time.
We are going back into circle of social media doomed era.. Many said "it make far connection closer and close connection farther".. Humanity going backward once again.
It's like alexa except it's not like alexa it's like a weird stalker friend.
Well, it's not really that much different of Alexa if you think about it. Google and Android already record your speech and keep track where you move. Only difference is they don't have Alexa (or Siri) talking to you like in a conversation, like commenting your current state of mind or your current location.
So, it's like Alexa.
@@Soitisisit yeah pretty much
A few years back anki had similar, but shutdown their service - community has restored some function to it. There was another robot companion which was targeted towards elderly companionship a year or two prior to that which also shutdown - which had much worse effects as some seniors very much liked the thing. Others hated it, but for those that liked it, suddenly their companion essentially 'died' overnight when that service also shutdown.
Just wait till Thor realizes you can buy friends by the hour in Japan 😂
Congratulations on 6k!!! ✨
Replica changing their ai made people despair so much.
But Thor .. I really want my Tamagotchi to be able to talk to me .. after all these years we get to be even Closer.
I feel thats a bit different. sort of the Megaman Battlenet navi direction would be fine, in my opinion. I'd love to have a sort of digital assistant that I can talk to more organically. Bounce ideas off of and get it to plan things for me, and then pop up and remind me of calendar events in an organic fashion. Not "This is your new best friend (TM)."
@@miclowgunman1987 This is exactly what I want ai to be. The idea of having an ai act and think and be a "real" human is exciting and tempting, but we don't NEED it. it was ruin us in the end.
I like pants I like listening to thor talk about interesting things like these during days when I can't watch stream 24/ 7 thank you thor keep tailoring the pants
Can't wait for the collab of sexdoll manufacturers with Boston dynamics and AI. Ever seen bild-a-bear? How about buil-a-wife?
I'm sure there are companies which are looking into how to make sexdolls with AI. Those would sell so fast no matter the price. Even the dolls with just "a real feeling skin" have a price tag of several thousand usd, and people obviously purchase them.
Reminds me of Joi from Bladerunner. AI companions are not only here, but they are going to become normal.
This should be interesting. Full send, and let Darwin be the judge.
One thing to note: There is this mentality with tech centric people that somehow all of life's problems can be solved with software. It happened when there was a shortage of ventilators during cobid, and those people scrambled to make cheap and quick solutions to fill the gap.
The idea that a computer and line of code is unbiased, and can solve all of our problems is just dumb. The root of a computer's biggest flaw is that it was made by a person and used by people. It will be biased, it can be abused, and it will never be beyond us, for we are the ones that made it.
THE BILLY BUTCHER AI VOICE LMAOSJDJDJDN
There's only one technological companion I need; and it's a cube.
You perfectly articulated every reservation I have with any and all AI based companionship products. The commodification of love and companionship isn't a new concept, but incorporating an AI that can mold itself into your perfect someone - that's terrifying.
Dick Van Dyke narrating at the beginning, there. "ALLOW MEEERY PAWWPENNS!"
Dude you have far more wisdom that you deserve to have for anyone with your general experience. Incredibly insightful, with full on honesty mixed with endless streams of down to earth use your brain common sense.
No wonder you're blowing up. Serious skills man. You're like the Louie Rossman who started in software instead hardware when it comes to their establishing vocation.
You constantly surprise me with your ability to cut through the shit, and go right to the heart of whatever your talking about. It's quite a treat, in a World where everything seems backwards and upside down yet still it wonders what's wrong with itself.
I wish I could like this a few more times. We will lose so much ability to socialise when we rely on technology to do the job for us.
This is a just a more dystopian version of the those anime girlfriend apps from Japan.
2:00 Well I can say that this part is completly true, I can't argue with people at least talking, they just ask "why?" and I'm like "Well you know... how you don't know?"
This is a similar premise to, I think it was a Gobelin's student thesis film? It's on RUclips somewhere. Where a guy is having his birthday party and all the friends flicker out. Turns out, many have these friend implants. It's like an addiction, he has to go out and get a refill to get his "friends" back. It's dystopian.
Totally spot on about the argument thing. Conflict is a crucial part of human interaction, and learning how to deal with it in a healthy and productive manner is equally crucial. AI is going in all the wrong directions and I quite honestly believe it's going to end up being a massive net negative for humanity as a whole.
It is really creepy and will lead to people spending more time alone, and at some point it could lead to it being hacked by some wackos, and that could lead to one of those true crime dramas.
Technology _can_ be a powerful treatment for loneliness, but it mainly does so by linking real people together. For example, some people find it easier to interact and connect in written form (group-chats, forums, Discord messages, etc.). But like Thor says, it's vital that there be a real person at the other end of that medium, whatever it is.
I think a cooler option for something like this, I think, would be a SIM device that connects you to an actual person - another person wearing one of these - and you both act as a companion to one another.
So, pen-pals but tech?
After many years they created the nexus of torment from the science fiction book "don't create the nexus of torment"
meanwhile the company behind the AI friend: "Yeah boy, tell us all your problems, relieve yourself with us and more importantly, tell us your interests so we can sell all your data"
It doesn't seem to be such a big deal if all they can do with your data is try to sell you a fridge.
@@nothingthere3959 Yeah, what they want is probably the same thing that other companies have done all these years, nothing really new
But I don't understand, Thor is AI and he is attacking the AI Friend, isn't that friendly fire?
If it were a *true* AI where it's a digital entity that could be considered a person, I'd be all about this kind of thing. But right now AI is all just generative and assembles sentences/images/video without anything we'd define as intelligence behind it
But even if it was a *true* AI, I wouldn't want it to be any kind of subscription service or service where the computing is happening on some big tech company's servers. If I had self aware AI person, I'd want them to be hosted on my own system where their existence can be more stable and not dependent on me being able to afford a subscription service, or company staying afloat
The AI necklace is a dark shallow way of showing the benefits of an AI chat. Dittin AI is a great example. You make an AI prompt, giving it a personality, interests, and even backstory and it speaks to you in the manner it would if all those were true. Its purely for your engagement, unless you make it public for everyone's use, and you can even give yourself an identity, so the AI would respond to you differently.
It's bad, but I'm assuming it'll be like the chatbots, some people stay away from them and some people fully drown in them. I think this will be a very hard thing to control.
If you like the concept of "AI Friend"
- Then I can highly recommend the Jaquien Phoenix movie "Her" fra 2013(I think)
where he falls in love with somebody that he talks on the phone with all the time - but then realises that this is an AI operation system that talks with several thousands of men at the same time, for money.
Very interesting movie.
he's completely right the problem though is that I think he's detached from how bad the dating scene is and how bad some relationships are, people have ended marriages over the "ick" and it's not getting better by addressing it like it's not there.
AI interactions aren't a substitute but I can see why people would want to have them over real ones because of the plethora of inundations that show how treacherous it is, you need only to scroll tiktok for a million and one women making the world seem like hell on earth.
issues:
1. dating apps are captured by enormous monopolies or outright scams
2. excessive argumentation about everything (perhaps expedited by the internet) has made people burnt out of all social interaction
3. arguments about social structures from social academics and mass media which have led to an enormous and disproportionate amount of lonely men and women
4. a lack of wanting reconciliation
Tiktok isn't meaningful social interaction, and is perhaps an indicator of how potentially harmful replacing real relationships with hi-tech tools can be if we keep going down this path. If you're drawing general conclusions about modern relationships based on personal and anecdotal experience on dating apps and tiktok then your dataset you're drawing conclusions from is fundamentally tainted.
My thoughts exactly. Social media echo chambers already have done immeasurable damage to society. What would the world look like if everyone lived in their own personal echo chamber of AI bots 24-7.
The even funnier part about Prime buying it is that he doesn't have an iPhone and the darn thing only supports iOS.
I want a amulet in the shape of the thumbnail for this video!
the friend you buy is always on your side because you bought it, just like human friends but worst
Ayo, you cant trashtalk my friend like that, the ai got feelings aswell. Jkjk
tech bros will see a cyberpunk dystopia and go "oh wow look at the pretty colors and cool tech!" and completely miss the point
As someone who's socially anxious myself, it took me way too long to figure out that arguments were healthy to have. I kept thinking I didnt know what I was doing when talking to people so I kept working on it. Only recently did I realize I might be good with people because I'll go out with friends and everyone will comment how I'm just able to start up conversation and be friends with people.
I'd love to have a true, sentient AI to talk to some day. But this is like talking to autocomplete.
I have virtually no idea what this product is, or what it does. But I saw that this takes notes on conversations, and my first thought with this product was that this is something that could help me. Not for any of the social stuff. I have my own victories and struggles on that front as anyone does. I'm not interested in a talking amulet or whatever this is. But the voice recording. That intrigues me. I'm in college right now, and I struggle a lot with taking notes. I got ADD pretty bad, and sometimes will get distracted and miss sections the lecturer says, or won't be fast enough in my note taking to get everything important. This could help with that.
This is just a personal thing, and I don't think I would ever use a device like this in any social context, but names. My god, names. I am so bad with them. I remember people well enough. Good with faces. But a person tells me their name, and I forget it almost immediately. If my brain could perfectly record a conversation so I could just do people the kindness of remembering their names would be great. I don't know how many people I've offended by asking them what their name was again for the 5th time that day.
Anyway, not into AI companionship, just wanna remember stuff.
This is like bringing rom coms to another level.
Using Butcher from the boys was something i didnt expect
Healthygamergg had a take that adjusting the AI so it would give you *negative feedback* if you behaved oddly would help socially awkward or anxious people practice in a consequence free zone.
Of course it could always become dystopia, but then our parents were freaking out about violent video games and that was a whole load of nothing
The ai billy butcher voice was very appropriate here but unnerving
Remember that Rick & Morty episode about the Memory Parasites? Season 2, episode 4?
We're really headed for the 'perfect friend' problem.
I think it’s not a conceptual issue but an alignment issue. If the friend is aligned to be a sycophant that never challenges you or argues with you, that’s super unhealthy. If it’s aligned to talk to you like a therapist or a coach, supportive but also able to teach you, correct you, and challenge you, it could be immensely positive. You say that you don’t agree with human companionship as a product, but I know from experience that it can be immensely beneficial, and the loneliness epidemic is a problem worthy of tackling with all the technology we’ve got, but I absolutely agree that not done right it creates a lot of problems.
Ai voice be like "Oi, Hughie. Homelander done killed me wife and took me bloody son!"
Meanwhile Starlight: 🗿
The tailor hire is paying off. Many good pants have already been published 👏👏🤗
Lord knows there are more than enough voices in my head already, I don't need another one around my neck xD
thor: AI Adult tamagotchi is going to destroy society!
AI tamagotchi trend: over in 6 months - 2 years and we all think its stupid now.
There’s an animated short film called “Best Friend” (published by Gobelins and here on RUclips) that’s all about this. It’s very good and quite scary, I recommend it.
The ads are shot and and the sound effects in them make them look like ads for a horror film
I'd frankly rather die alone and forgotten than succumbing to whatever the hell this is.
Would be awesome to see you on Lex Fridman's podcast talking about thing's like this, you would break his heart :P