Its so goofy how people think Shin could "evolve" to win when it literally took him a few hours just to be able to evolve into a biped. His evolution isn't instantaneous. He can't evolve mid-fight.
I don't think he can even evolve after being killed. Cause most people say "Shin can evolve into anything to counter what it's fighting,so he can die,and just come back" But there's no statements about whether shin can evolve in death.
The reason Mv isn’t in the Reiwa Era is because it technically isn’t because it is technically separate since the eras only include the Toho movies. But I 10,000% agree that Legendary Godzilla deserves respect.
My man, I think most people forgot about snow Godzilla. Sure it didn't get alot of attention because he was just a cameo. However I think we shouldn't have forget it.
Actually in the novel for Godzilla Singular Point (which is canon), his avatar at 100+ meters after reaching Omega Point, it is stated to have expanded into a different dimension or dimensions and it is implied that that is how he expands his multiversal domain and stated to have surpassed the singular point within itself, the singular point bein the same as the one in SHIVA, which is capable of causing a paradox that could potentially reset the universe. So his avatar is low multiversal. Now his true form, however, is stated to be an unreachable being that is connected to countless higher dimensions, viewing the past, future and the present as dreams and dreams within dreams. Singular Points that are capable of transtemporal and hyperspatial manipulation are mere parts of it or rather holes it gave from beyond. Trying to affect "It" from within space-time is stated to be similar to characters on TV trying to reach out beyond it. That would make him hyperversal. You should read the novel. It expands the lore of the anime and was written by the one of the anime’s writers. And Toho approved it being canon to the anime. I really hope you look up the novel for Godzilla Singular Point before you do the scaling video because this is canon to the anime and it’s been changing people’s scaling of Ultima.
Chronic literally said that he didn't want to delve to deep into that part of scaling. Not saying that he doesn't think that SP Godzilla is that powerful, but I guess for the sake of the video he wanted to make the scaling simpler and based SP Godzilla's scaling on the physical feats from the anime.
For Gemstone's amped version, I like to call it "Ghost Godzilla" for three reasons: 1. Gemstone is already compared to heisei despite not being confirmed, and Ghost is a scrapped villain for the last heisei film 2. The white color immediately made me think of Shodai Godzilla. 3. The pattern on his chest reminds me of the concept art of Ghost Godzilla.
Gemestone is my personal favorite as I’m a fan of the heisei series and 2014 is what introduced me to Godzilla so having a Godzilla like heisei in a era like the monster verse made me very happy
Great video (as usual), but if I may ask, why did you not like Minus One? (And the other 2 Godzillas that you said you didn't like before Gemstone). I personally really enjoyed, but if you didn't then that's fine, everyone has their own opinions. And btw, you can probably scale the Minus One Godzilla higher using statements of theheat of the atomic breath
Hey goji chronic, as a big fan of yours i just wanted to tell you that i really enjoyed this video and can’t wait to see the video on void ghidorah and true form ultima!
I may be a big fan of Shin, but I agree that on screen Shin is just not combat ready, he is too weak compared to other on screen godzilla's, his only threat was the humans. He would have looked completely different if he fought a kaiju in his movie, so this ranking is accurate for me.
Epic! Also Should do an analysis on Some of the other classic kaijus Like a beast from 20,000 fathoms Vs the giant behemoth Or gorgo vs yonggary. Also some other media Such as adult indominus rex Vs vrex Or Gaw from joe devitos Kong novel vs 2005 king kong And the meat eater 1933 Vs Vrex And an interesting one Would be fatalis mhw Vs lost planet 2 akrid x 🔥
wait im a bit confused, if MVG scales above everything in the universe, dosen't that mean he scales above Gamma Ray Bursts, Black holes and Suns itself? (his beam i mean, not him)
It’s a little werid to use the statement to the highest end because Godzilla at best only has feats around like planetary or some dwarf start stuff so I prefer to use the statement to argue consistency for that range of power if Mv got Solar system calcs I would use the statement in that way
@@Goji-C First of all, tysm for actually replying, i never had another ytber do this. Second of all, i understand you are keeping consistensy but what im trying to say that isnt the statement confirmed? and confirms his beam is the most powerful thing in MV, therefore it would make sense to take his high ball calcs a bit higher. (Im still happy with his clacs, im just saying thats all.)
@@Goji-Cwell that's kind of not true he does have feats to back it up and one in specific is within the novelization saying he has near the same amount of energy as the entirety of the hollow earth which is stated to have a more powerful energy source then the sun since it creates more powerful life
@@user-xj2pr6oi2o Anti spiral scales higher but kratos could win because anti spiral only fights at the same level as teh enemy for the short answer and the explanation.
Actually the AnnoCinema part is a small mistake. That was not the official account. This doesn’t matter very much to shin Godzilla’s abilities, but it should be fixed.
@DEIMOSDOOM bruh people always complain in the recent films when the focus was more on the monsters people complained about less human and there's more humans they complain about less monsters. For me Monsterverse is a fantastic Godzilla universe and good job to legendary and WB for this series and cinematic universe.
Hey Goji, I want to make a quick suggestion for another video because I have been in a debate war for a long time surrounding the Whole thing, Can you mainly make a Video of A very powerful version of Godzilla Like Ultima on his true form or something else against sonic in his Game Time-Line counting his Cyber-Super-Form and the newest statements about it?
You think? Here’s a question and do not lie do you remember what was mention about what would have happened if the catastrophe occurred? I mean the fact that he doesn’t have any feats doesn’t mean that his true form is weak or you go by that dumb logic? Just try to tell me what would have happened is the catastrophe happened?
@@Fatatoad Bro... you have never seen the series and even the novel itself, Like Goddamn stop yapping and capping and Go watch the series, it's clearly said for like 10 times that he's an amazingly powerful creature that comes from another dimension possibly a 13 Dimension, and it's mainly known that the form that we see in the show is just a shadow that is just colonizing the planet with red dust for the arrival of the catastrophe which is mainly known to be his True form that It's mainly describe to be Bigger than the universe itself and that just It's presence is enough to destroy the universe by just bending it.
Do you wanna know what's funny? If we made Godzilla 1998 and Shin fight, the legitimate ONLY reason Shin would win is because of his atomic breath, since, as we saw in the Millenium era video, 1998 has actually better physical stats than Shin, definitely big enough to cause severe injuries, while Shin's atomic breath is powerful enough to actually damage 1998 And before anyone brings out the “he can adapt and evolve”, two things 1: He would probably need to be defeated first to adapt, so it doesn't really apply 2: What would he adapt to? 1998 teeth and claws? If he could adapt harder skin, i'm sure he would've done so already when he got shot by the jets
One thing l find wrong is that shin doesn't need to be defeated to evolve he starts evolving after a certain problem affects him but it'd still take time to adapt to zilla
I don’t see why people like to shit on shin so much. I’m sure 99% of kajiu in film could defeat him, the only way for shin to really win is to get an atomic breath off, but the evolution is a valid argument no matter how to put it. If his opponent isn’t capable of not only purging every one of shins cells but also being smart enough to do so, shin just comes back stronger. And he can evolve fast. It took him a matter of seconds to adapt to stealth bombers, even when that evolution required all kinds of biological changes to facilitate firing beams from so many places. Unless put in a battle of attrition, shin loses the fight, but wins the war almost every single time
@@Churros_are_Overrated i mean, yeah, but that just goes to show just how over reliant Shin is on his adaptation, he has pretty much nothing going for him Like, he's one of the coolest Godzilla versions, don't get me wrong, but he's just NOT built for ANY fight If we limit ourselves to just movies, he's OBJECTIVELY the weakest We should just stop bringing him up in these discusions, because we literally have to use HYPOTETHICAL adaptations for him to even do something It's the closest thing we have to just making up powers for convenience, just because “well, we don't KNOW if he CAN'T do that”, which i'm pretty sure it's a No Limits Falacy What i'm trying to say is, if we have to use what's essentially HEADCANON just to make a character stand a chance in a fight, them there's a problem
@@lunaitor-uq9hz it’s literally not headcannon tho? Your logic is the same as saying it’s only a hypothetical Godzilla can shoot lasers since we only see it in the movie, so we shouldn’t include it in a 1v1. Also who cares about being over-reliant on one thing? Go tell a boxer that he just spams attacks and see how well you fare against him over relying on punches. I have not made up a single thing. I never said he would instantly develop wings and three heads and eat Godzilla, I used evidence from the movie to prove a simple point about him, that he can and will adapt. I never specifically said what he would evolve because there is no way to know, other than that he will certainly develop something to counter Godzilla. And saying he has nothing going for him is just clear nonsense. He has everything legendary has and more, even down to his little version of the thermonuclear stage in a giant explosion on his death, which would most likely kill Godzilla without plot armor (hence why they froze him instead of outright destroying him)
I really think you need to rethink how you do shin’s speed. His precision can catch up with the bomber, sure, but his head definitely doesn’t need to move that fast. If you’ve ever messed around with a laser pointer, you know you don’t need to move your hand 10 meters in a split second to make the end of the laser do the same. Shin is not subsonic nor should he ever be considered to be classified as such
You can call gemstone's amp as the White Hot Rage Mode. Also, Can you calculate some of the Godzillas in youtube like Lord Of The Galaxy, Slick,Hakaishin etc ?
I received my Hiya GvK Exquisite Basic V2 Godzilla toy the other day and I love it! Took three weeks to arrive. I got it a day after I received my Team Godzilla and Team Kong hats from Redbubble. I'm not that type of fan who goes: F Kong. Godzilla rules! Or.. Godzilla is lame. Kong rocks! I generally like both of them and I'm also a fan of Mechagodzilla. I'll probably end up being a fan of Skar King and Shimo as well when I see GxK. I had an issue with my Hiya KOTM Exquisite Basic Godzilla. I did get it used from OfferUp for $35. There was a tiny gap on the right side if you twisted his head while looking straight at it. It would get bigger if you twisted the head enough. I'm not as OCD as I used to be but that tiny flaw bothered me enough and I sold it a month later for the same price at $35 on OfferUp before ordering Hiya's G21 updated one. And the head and neck area on my new G21 is absolutely perfect. Prior to getting my Hiya G21, I ordered an Art Spirits G89 which stands at half the size of the Hiya. I was lucky enough to get it off eBay for only $38 as the shipping fee was free as it wasn't like that before. I believe it was $10 before I ordered it. This 3.5" BioGoji is also absolutely perfect. No loose tail piece. It's not up to scale as my DougheGoji but Godzilla 1989/1991 might be my favorite Godzilla suits ever. That's how I picture G in my mind. Heisei Era. I like the feline appearance. G89/91 and G19/21 are my favorite Godzilla designs ever. I was going to get an S.H. MonsterArts G91 but decided not to since it practically looks the same as my AS G89 but with thicker thighs, it costs more than double than my G89, the tail breaks off easily without much force, and some of the paint apps can be off. I don't have much space for it either. I ordered an Art Spirits Hyper Solid Series Kong for $125 on eBay which arrives by Thursday, so I won't have space for a 6.3" G91 in this small section on top of a shelf where I place my G89, G21, and K21. Right now, I might get another Godzilla figure or maybe one for Mechagodzilla, but I prefer a smaller one similar to the size of my AS G89. I wanted the 1962 Gashapon but he's green and G62 was never green except in the movie posters. My favorite Showa design is from 1964, but Godzilla was kinda weak in it. He was getting beaten up by a giant female moth! Toho did confirm Kong did come out victorious against Godzilla in 1962 as Godzilla was still a heel in his films from 1954 through 1964. I need to see Godzilla Minus One again. I'm still not sure if I truly love it or G23's design. I think Minus One is the best Godzilla movie ever made but I didn't have the urge to rewatch it right after. Perhaps because it was kinda depressing while GvK is fun and silly. And I grew to like the design less as time went on. I still wouldn't mind getting a Gashapon G23 but the one I see on eBay lacks articulation compared to my AS G89. I hope Art Spirits make one of G23 but at 3" to 3.5". Honestly, I don't really love many Godzilla or Kong movies. Kaiju movies aren't my thing. If I had to pick between kaiju movies or Jackie Chan movies from the 70s through 90s, I would easily pick JC. There's about 20+ JC movies I truly enjoyed while I probably enjoyed about a half dozen Godzilla movies. They're both for niche audiences but Jackie Chan movies are highly replayable thanks to the stunts, slapstick comedy, and faster pacing. I admire more of the characters of Godzilla and Kong than I do for their films. Legendary/MonsterVerse has become my favorite Godzilla of all-time. It slowly became my favorite as I initially didn't like his thick neck and thighs with his small head when I first watched G14. I wasn't a fan of Kong's designs either from 2017 and 2021 but I eventually came around to them. While G14 is better proportioned, I prefer the larger dorsal plates on G19/21 and bringing back the 1962 Showa roar back. MV Godzilla moves like an actual creature. I would rather watch CGI kaijus throwing it down than guys in rubber suits doing sumo wrestling. While Godzilla Minus One is the best Godzilla film I've ever seen followed by 1954's Gojira, my favorite Godzilla movie of all-time remains GvK even though it's really a Kong movie and I don't consider Godzilla vs. Kong to be a well made movie in general. To see the 1962 movie get rebooted and modernized was a dream come true for me as the 1962 film (technically, the 1963 American dub) is what got me into loving Godzilla and Kong in the first place. Godzilla fighting Kong in the ocean and in Hong Kong is instant "legendary" from Legendary. Best Godzilla movie: Godzilla Minus One (2023) Best Godzilla design: Heisei Era (1989/1991) Favorite Godzilla movie: Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) Favorite Godzilla design: MonsterVerse (2019/2021) Best Kong movie: King Kong (2005) Best Kong design: Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) Favorite Kong movie: Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) Favorite Kong design: MonsterVerse (2021/2023) Favorite MonsterVerse Projects 1. Godzilla vs. Kong (2021) 2. Godzilla (2014) 3. Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019) 4. Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (2023) 5. Kong: Skull Island (2017) Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire (2024) will likely make my top 2 as the 2014 and 2019 films were way too dark to see any cool action.
Do you know the Slick channel? He is a user who makes very good Godzilla content, he even made a Battle Royale with his own version of Ultima's true form.
Goji-Chironic Monsterverse Godzilla burning forms is said to output atomic pulses. That are equivalent to a super nova , and as hot as a red giant. So MV would be star level.
To say a supernova’s attack potency is large planetary even at the bare minimum is just outright downplay. A supernova is literally what happens when a STAR explodes. At the BARE MINIMUM, a supernova is star level.
I actually thought you would do game Godzillas, it’s fine though, I can see why you didn’t use it since there isn’t that much Godzilla games, at least if it’s made by toho, since there are some fan games that might be good for the vid, still hope you do it though
Good thing he did not added the statement that MV mechagodzilla has the power in his proton steam which has been said that it had the energy of 100000000 times the energy of the universe which is ironic
Im sorry to say my man But now thanks to monarch legacy of monsters the battle with muto prime and shinomura ain't canon now 😢😢😢😢 Anyways good vid Hope seeing new vids about godzilla vs jla!!
@@titanusgodzillaa4274 Yeah man i still want to believe that... Monarch;Lom, didn't deliver anything good It has a lot of contradictions with the actual lore, and the human presence is awful Yet they leave with references to a second season, like if that would be any good to the franchise ☠️
@@Kiryusagafan The permian impact itself wasn't as strong as people seem to think it is. Yes it's worldwide effects were huge, but the impact itself wasn't as much. Gemstone still did take a huge impact. And the difference is that godzilla was severely injured by the permian impact, gemstone didn't care much about his impacts.
@@Kiryusagafan Also you can see a difference when legendary gets hit vs gemstone. Legendary godzilla does bleed, and get injured, gemstone godzilla's skin is like metal, he just takes it and we hear a metal noise, sometimes it starts burning though.
I know that you did what if kiryu and evangelion (I don’t know if I wrote it right it’s very difficult for me to write the name of the show) swapped verses but I was wondering if you could do Kiryu VS Eva-01
scaling ultima, who is a lovecraftian eldritch deity from beyond time and space, who's mere existence warps the fabric of reality and continued existence would destroy the universe entirely, as "island level" is a fucking crime
4:37 To be fair, this is not the actual account of AnnoCinema. Someone already pointed this out in your video from a month ago comparing shin Godzilla and minus 1. I hope you don’t continue making this mistake, because it can take away from your argument.
I am a Shin Godzilla fanboy.. the only reason Shin is my all time favourite is because of the horror and the creator. But.. I seriously understand why Shin is weak and everything-
0:52 I include it as it's own thing outside of the Reiwa era not because I'm one of those elitist fanboys but because it's becoming it's own franchise at this point, no hate on the MV though it's actually decent tbh but the community is BAAAAAD.
Wait isn’t Godzilla earth only 100k tons? I mean legendary goji lifter muto prime who weighs 140k tons (I forgor the exact weight) so that means legendary Godzilla can lift Godzilla earth?
@@dietsnuts1619 godzilla earth weighs 100,000 tons. Legendary is 99,634 tons, muto prime is 135,000. MV ghidorah is 141,056, heisei mechagodzilla is 150,000. Keizer is 100,000. FW, MV and heisei can all lift and throw earth given how all 3 lifted and thrown kaiju just as heavy or heavier than earth. Godzilla earth is a plant based organism. He no bones and thus less density than he should, so despite being the heaviest current incarnation of godzilla, he's sort of lightweight compared to much heavier kaiju
Sad with the Ultima downplay, Not even talking about the true from, The avatar was stated to be able to destroy Reality itself and the avatar is also stated to be a higher dimensional being so you can pretty easily get the avatar at 4-5D, we also have to talk about hax 😔
@@ItsButterBean1020i dont rlly scale the true form much i know more on the avatar being its destined to destroy the reality during the catastrophe, The true form can use the final phase red dust though and intern get towards hyperversal
@@uberrex8073I mean, a lot of Godzilla’s who are scaled have feats that are stated but are never really shown. Heisei Godzilla and Showa Godzilla are perfect examples of this where the scaling that is done for these 2 is based mainly on a lot of statements that don’t represent what’s in the movies. Plus Showa Godzilla seems to be consistently scaled as one of the strongest Godzillas despite most of his scaling coming from Zone Fighter which is kinda unfair as other Godzillas don’t get that advantage.
Up to debate, but Shin Godzilla... probably the best godzilla movie. Dispite the fact I will openly acknowledge I am a Shin fan boy, I'm not gonna make claims about his strength. There isn't enough data about him to say how strong he is, and his strength is very circumstantial as it scales. He could cover the whole earth with flesh and destroy all life if left alone long enough, but he could also very possibly be stopped before this. His highest forms are likely immensely more powerful than any of these, but who says he makes it that far.
Hey Goji I know it’s a random request but I was debating someone who was trying to argue spacegodzilla > Kratos saying space was 11d could you cover this topic please 🙏
Oh my god thank you so much for saying shin is the weakest because I'm so tired of delusional shin fans saying "he can just adapt" without even knowing anything abt their "fav kaiju"
It's funny too, because more than half of all iterations of godzilla adapt to varying degrees, some far more effectively than Shin. It's not really helped by the fact that people take upon the rhetoric of a series of faked plot leaks to scale him
I don’t think Monsterverse isn’t included in the Reiwa era because people think it’s worse, but simply because it’s its own thing entirely. And the names for the Godzilla eras come from the Japanese rulers, so idk
Its so goofy how people think Shin could "evolve" to win when it literally took him a few hours just to be able to evolve into a biped. His evolution isn't instantaneous. He can't evolve mid-fight.
Thank you.
I don't think he can even evolve after being killed. Cause most people say
"Shin can evolve into anything to counter what it's fighting,so he can die,and just come back"
But there's no statements about whether shin can evolve in death.
He’s not mahoraga
Even if shin did evolve he needs to recharge every now and then
He can evolve during fights. That's how he adapted to incoming projectiles. Shin name alone represents most powerful incarnation.
The reason Mv isn’t in the Reiwa Era is because it technically isn’t because it is technically separate since the eras only include the Toho movies. But I 10,000% agree that Legendary Godzilla deserves respect.
The MV is made with Toho's blessing and with them supervising the IP, so in a way it kinda is.
@@TimeyWimey. The movies are still owned by Legendary
@@fire15aidenspencer72Yeah, but they don't own the toho characters. It's complicated
@@themonstergamer5441 Yeah, the Monsterverse is kinda like it’s own era. Kinda like Tristar.
Is the Legendary era, one that runs at the same time as the Toho typical Godzilla eras.
Im ready to see -1 in black and white
Same
Me too!
“Gear 5 Godzilla” the 20% percent hearing that and actually leaving
Lol
You know it's a good day when Goji-Chronic uploads
Jep
Or a bad day. The comments are insane. He makes really good content.
Gotta help y’all Start the weekend off right
@@Goji-C Thanks!
@@Goji-C thx😅
My man, I think most people forgot about snow Godzilla. Sure it didn't get alot of attention because he was just a cameo. However I think we shouldn't have forget it.
It shouldn’t be forgotten but it also really shouldn’t be ranked due to how little feats it has
He's still arguably the weakest if he was here
Mf is Small City fodder (you have to give him scaling to the other characters)
I still really really wanna see every Godzilla game ranked by power
Godzilla games....bro u good?
I thought you were gonna scale Comic Godzillas. Its fine, your uploads don't disappoint me.
They didn’t win the vote but it’s still definitely on the table maybe I’ll wait for when the Godzilla Dc crossover is done
@@Goji-C Thanks for responding. Its always cool to have subbed to a brother in Christ.
Comic book godzilla is ridiculous
Actually in the novel for Godzilla Singular Point (which is canon), his avatar at 100+ meters after reaching Omega Point, it is stated to have expanded into a different dimension or dimensions and it is implied that that is how he expands his multiversal domain and stated to have surpassed the singular point within itself, the singular point bein the same as the one in SHIVA, which is capable of causing a paradox that could potentially reset the universe. So his avatar is low multiversal.
Now his true form, however, is stated to be an unreachable being that is connected to countless higher dimensions, viewing the past, future and the present as dreams and dreams within dreams. Singular Points that are capable of transtemporal and hyperspatial manipulation are mere parts of it or rather holes it gave from beyond. Trying to affect "It" from within space-time is stated to be similar to characters on TV trying to reach out beyond it. That would make him hyperversal.
You should read the novel. It expands the lore of the anime and was written by the one of the anime’s writers. And Toho approved it being canon to the anime. I really hope you look up the novel for Godzilla Singular Point before you do the scaling video because this is canon to the anime and it’s been changing people’s scaling of Ultima.
I didn't know there was a book
Chronic literally said that he didn't want to delve to deep into that part of scaling. Not saying that he doesn't think that SP Godzilla is that powerful, but I guess for the sake of the video he wanted to make the scaling simpler and based SP Godzilla's scaling on the physical feats from the anime.
Is it okay if I use this argument?
@@purpleX-q absolutely. Why do you think I posted it?
@thunderzilla_rex What proof do you have that Shin Ultraman “true form” is 11D?
For Gemstone's amped version, I like to call it "Ghost Godzilla" for three reasons:
1. Gemstone is already compared to heisei despite not being confirmed, and Ghost is a scrapped villain for the last heisei film
2. The white color immediately made me think of Shodai Godzilla.
3. The pattern on his chest reminds me of the concept art of Ghost Godzilla.
Gemestone is my personal favorite as I’m a fan of the heisei series and 2014 is what introduced me to Godzilla so having a Godzilla like heisei in a era like the monster verse made me very happy
Take a drink every time the narrator says tnt.
My stomach exploded
@@greatwhitesharkmadeoutoftr1792 I wonder how much tnt was in that?
@@User_Here414 im dead
@greatwhitesharkmadeoutoftr1792 How much tnt is in that? Nah, I'll stop, lol
I’ve been super hyped for this!!
I'd honestly love to see the Godzilla video game iterations ranked, I loved the Godzilla games as a kid! (and still do now)
This is one of my favorite godzilla chanels
It says Godzilla during the gemstone short films is at 30 percent power during the short films so he could scale higher
Source?
@@purpleX-q it literally says in
GvGR
@@purpleX-q and he could potentially scale higher I’m not saying he does actually scale higher
@@purpleX-qIt was literally stated that Godzilla was at 30% power.
@@UltronInfinite really?
Great video (as usual), but if I may ask, why did you not like Minus One? (And the other 2 Godzillas that you said you didn't like before Gemstone). I personally really enjoyed, but if you didn't then that's fine, everyone has their own opinions. And btw, you can probably scale the Minus One Godzilla higher using statements of theheat of the atomic breath
Hey goji chronic, as a big fan of yours i just wanted to tell you that i really enjoyed this video and can’t wait to see the video on void ghidorah and true form ultima!
I may be a big fan of Shin, but I agree that on screen Shin is just not combat ready, he is too weak compared to other on screen godzilla's, his only threat was the humans. He would have looked completely different if he fought a kaiju in his movie, so this ranking is accurate for me.
Epic! Also Should do an analysis on
Some of the other classic kaijus
Like a beast from 20,000 fathoms
Vs the giant behemoth
Or gorgo vs yonggary.
Also some other media
Such as adult indominus rex
Vs vrex
Or Gaw from joe devitos
Kong novel vs
2005 king kong
And the meat eater 1933
Vs Vrex
And an interesting one
Would be fatalis mhw
Vs lost planet 2 akrid x
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wait im a bit confused, if MVG scales above everything in the universe, dosen't that mean he scales above Gamma Ray Bursts, Black holes and Suns itself? (his beam i mean, not him)
It’s a little werid to use the statement to the highest end because Godzilla at best only has feats around like planetary or some dwarf start stuff so I prefer to use the statement to argue consistency for that range of power if Mv got Solar system calcs I would use the statement in that way
@@Goji-C wheres that full mvg power scaling video you said you do
@@Goji-C First of all, tysm for actually replying, i never had another ytber do this.
Second of all, i understand you are keeping consistensy but what im trying to say that isnt the statement confirmed? and confirms his beam is the most powerful thing in MV, therefore it would make sense to take his high ball calcs a bit higher. (Im still happy with his clacs, im just saying thats all.)
@@Goji-Cwell that's kind of not true he does have feats to back it up and one in specific is within the novelization saying he has near the same amount of energy as the entirety of the hollow earth which is stated to have a more powerful energy source then the sun since it creates more powerful life
This guy never makes mistakes 😭
I try my best thank you
@@Goji-CCan you do Anti spiral vs Kratos Please?
@@user-xj2pr6oi2o Anti spiral scales higher but kratos could win because anti spiral only fights at the same level as teh enemy for the short answer and the explanation.
Actually the AnnoCinema part is a small mistake. That was not the official account. This doesn’t matter very much to shin Godzilla’s abilities, but it should be fixed.
Gemstone godzila be playing th drums of liberation after 800 years while fighting kaido
MV haters going to hate this vid.
@DEIMOSDOOM GVK, KOTM, GXK…
@DEIMOSDOOM bruh people always complain in the recent films when the focus was more on the monsters people complained about less human and there's more humans they complain about less monsters. For me Monsterverse is a fantastic Godzilla universe and good job to legendary and WB for this series and cinematic universe.
@@aseemmaurya8267 Thank you.
What is there to hate about this video?
@@spongyleo66 MV is ranked higher than ultima and shin. Oh and Minus One
godzilla minus one was such a goated movie best kaiju movie ever 12/10
I love your content so much. I'm curious to see where you were able to view the Minus One novelization.
Minus One's regeneration >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shin's evolution
Hey Goji, I want to make a quick suggestion for another video because I have been in a debate war for a long time surrounding the Whole thing, Can you mainly make a Video of A very powerful version of Godzilla Like Ultima on his true form or something else against sonic in his Game Time-Line counting his Cyber-Super-Form and the newest statements about it?
true form has no feats , only statements i think
You think? Here’s a question and do not lie do you remember what was mention about what would have happened if the catastrophe occurred? I mean the fact that he doesn’t have any feats doesn’t mean that his true form is weak or you go by that dumb logic? Just try to tell me what would have happened is the catastrophe happened?
Its never said he evolves farther then we see in the show
@@Fatatoad Bro... you have never seen the series and even the novel itself, Like Goddamn stop yapping and capping and Go watch the series, it's clearly said for like 10 times that he's an amazingly powerful creature that comes from another dimension possibly a 13 Dimension, and it's mainly known that the form that we see in the show is just a shadow that is just colonizing the planet with red dust for the arrival of the catastrophe which is mainly known to be his True form that It's mainly describe to be Bigger than the universe itself and that just It's presence is enough to destroy the universe by just bending it.
Do you wanna know what's funny?
If we made Godzilla 1998 and Shin fight, the legitimate ONLY reason Shin would win is because of his atomic breath, since, as we saw in the Millenium era video, 1998 has actually better physical stats than Shin, definitely big enough to cause severe injuries, while Shin's atomic breath is powerful enough to actually damage 1998
And before anyone brings out the “he can adapt and evolve”, two things
1: He would probably need to be defeated first to adapt, so it doesn't really apply
2: What would he adapt to? 1998 teeth and claws? If he could adapt harder skin, i'm sure he would've done so already when he got shot by the jets
One thing l find wrong is that shin doesn't need to be defeated to evolve he starts evolving after a certain problem affects him but it'd still take time to adapt to zilla
Yeah, I think he can adapt to 1998 Zilla… but you’re completely right that all Zilla needs to do is a complete hit-and-run tactic in order to win.
I don’t see why people like to shit on shin so much. I’m sure 99% of kajiu in film could defeat him, the only way for shin to really win is to get an atomic breath off, but the evolution is a valid argument no matter how to put it. If his opponent isn’t capable of not only purging every one of shins cells but also being smart enough to do so, shin just comes back stronger. And he can evolve fast. It took him a matter of seconds to adapt to stealth bombers, even when that evolution required all kinds of biological changes to facilitate firing beams from so many places. Unless put in a battle of attrition, shin loses the fight, but wins the war almost every single time
@@Churros_are_Overrated i mean, yeah, but that just goes to show just how over reliant Shin is on his adaptation, he has pretty much nothing going for him
Like, he's one of the coolest Godzilla versions, don't get me wrong, but he's just NOT built for ANY fight
If we limit ourselves to just movies, he's OBJECTIVELY the weakest
We should just stop bringing him up in these discusions, because we literally have to use HYPOTETHICAL adaptations for him to even do something
It's the closest thing we have to just making up powers for convenience, just because “well, we don't KNOW if he CAN'T do that”, which i'm pretty sure it's a No Limits Falacy
What i'm trying to say is, if we have to use what's essentially HEADCANON just to make a character stand a chance in a fight, them there's a problem
@@lunaitor-uq9hz it’s literally not headcannon tho? Your logic is the same as saying it’s only a hypothetical Godzilla can shoot lasers since we only see it in the movie, so we shouldn’t include it in a 1v1. Also who cares about being over-reliant on one thing? Go tell a boxer that he just spams attacks and see how well you fare against him over relying on punches. I have not made up a single thing. I never said he would instantly develop wings and three heads and eat Godzilla, I used evidence from the movie to prove a simple point about him, that he can and will adapt. I never specifically said what he would evolve because there is no way to know, other than that he will certainly develop something to counter Godzilla. And saying he has nothing going for him is just clear nonsense. He has everything legendary has and more, even down to his little version of the thermonuclear stage in a giant explosion on his death, which would most likely kill Godzilla without plot armor (hence why they froze him instead of outright destroying him)
The goat blesses us with another banger
I really think you need to rethink how you do shin’s speed. His precision can catch up with the bomber, sure, but his head definitely doesn’t need to move that fast. If you’ve ever messed around with a laser pointer, you know you don’t need to move your hand 10 meters in a split second to make the end of the laser do the same. Shin is not subsonic nor should he ever be considered to be classified as such
I cannot believe this guy used this logic in two videos now without ever realizing how stupid it is
You can call gemstone's amp as the White Hot Rage Mode.
Also, Can you calculate some of the Godzillas in youtube like Lord Of The Galaxy, Slick,Hakaishin etc ?
Godzilla vs the 8 kings from Toriko would be a great video
A supernova is a process that destorys a very large star therefore is large star level plus.
Great video! Btw I have a question: where did you find the statements at 16:09?
I received my Hiya GvK Exquisite Basic V2 Godzilla toy the other day and I love it! Took three weeks to arrive. I got it a day after I received my Team Godzilla and Team Kong hats from Redbubble. I'm not that type of fan who goes: F Kong. Godzilla rules! Or.. Godzilla is lame. Kong rocks! I generally like both of them and I'm also a fan of Mechagodzilla. I'll probably end up being a fan of Skar King and Shimo as well when I see GxK.
I had an issue with my Hiya KOTM Exquisite Basic Godzilla. I did get it used from OfferUp for $35. There was a tiny gap on the right side if you twisted his head while looking straight at it. It would get bigger if you twisted the head enough. I'm not as OCD as I used to be but that tiny flaw bothered me enough and I sold it a month later for the same price at $35 on OfferUp before ordering Hiya's G21 updated one. And the head and neck area on my new G21 is absolutely perfect.
Prior to getting my Hiya G21, I ordered an Art Spirits G89 which stands at half the size of the Hiya. I was lucky enough to get it off eBay for only $38 as the shipping fee was free as it wasn't like that before. I believe it was $10 before I ordered it. This 3.5" BioGoji is also absolutely perfect. No loose tail piece. It's not up to scale as my DougheGoji but Godzilla 1989/1991 might be my favorite Godzilla suits ever. That's how I picture G in my mind. Heisei Era. I like the feline appearance. G89/91 and G19/21 are my favorite Godzilla designs ever.
I was going to get an S.H. MonsterArts G91 but decided not to since it practically looks the same as my AS G89 but with thicker thighs, it costs more than double than my G89, the tail breaks off easily without much force, and some of the paint apps can be off. I don't have much space for it either. I ordered an Art Spirits Hyper Solid Series Kong for $125 on eBay which arrives by Thursday, so I won't have space for a 6.3" G91 in this small section on top of a shelf where I place my G89, G21, and K21.
Right now, I might get another Godzilla figure or maybe one for Mechagodzilla, but I prefer a smaller one similar to the size of my AS G89. I wanted the 1962 Gashapon but he's green and G62 was never green except in the movie posters. My favorite Showa design is from 1964, but Godzilla was kinda weak in it. He was getting beaten up by a giant female moth! Toho did confirm Kong did come out victorious against Godzilla in 1962 as Godzilla was still a heel in his films from 1954 through 1964.
I need to see Godzilla Minus One again. I'm still not sure if I truly love it or G23's design. I think Minus One is the best Godzilla movie ever made but I didn't have the urge to rewatch it right after. Perhaps because it was kinda depressing while GvK is fun and silly. And I grew to like the design less as time went on. I still wouldn't mind getting a Gashapon G23 but the one I see on eBay lacks articulation compared to my AS G89. I hope Art Spirits make one of G23 but at 3" to 3.5".
Honestly, I don't really love many Godzilla or Kong movies. Kaiju movies aren't my thing. If I had to pick between kaiju movies or Jackie Chan movies from the 70s through 90s, I would easily pick JC. There's about 20+ JC movies I truly enjoyed while I probably enjoyed about a half dozen Godzilla movies. They're both for niche audiences but Jackie Chan movies are highly replayable thanks to the stunts, slapstick comedy, and faster pacing. I admire more of the characters of Godzilla and Kong than I do for their films.
Legendary/MonsterVerse has become my favorite Godzilla of all-time. It slowly became my favorite as I initially didn't like his thick neck and thighs with his small head when I first watched G14. I wasn't a fan of Kong's designs either from 2017 and 2021 but I eventually came around to them. While G14 is better proportioned, I prefer the larger dorsal plates on G19/21 and bringing back the 1962 Showa roar back. MV Godzilla moves like an actual creature. I would rather watch CGI kaijus throwing it down than guys in rubber suits doing sumo wrestling.
While Godzilla Minus One is the best Godzilla film I've ever seen followed by 1954's Gojira, my favorite Godzilla movie of all-time remains GvK even though it's really a Kong movie and I don't consider Godzilla vs. Kong to be a well made movie in general. To see the 1962 movie get rebooted and modernized was a dream come true for me as the 1962 film (technically, the 1963 American dub) is what got me into loving Godzilla and Kong in the first place. Godzilla fighting Kong in the ocean and in Hong Kong is instant "legendary" from Legendary.
Best Godzilla movie: Godzilla Minus One (2023)
Best Godzilla design: Heisei Era (1989/1991)
Favorite Godzilla movie: Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)
Favorite Godzilla design: MonsterVerse (2019/2021)
Best Kong movie: King Kong (2005)
Best Kong design: Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)
Favorite Kong movie: Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)
Favorite Kong design: MonsterVerse (2021/2023)
Favorite MonsterVerse Projects
1. Godzilla vs. Kong (2021)
2. Godzilla (2014)
3. Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019)
4. Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (2023)
5. Kong: Skull Island (2017)
Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire (2024) will likely make my top 2 as the 2014 and 2019 films were way too dark to see any cool action.
Do you know the Slick channel? He is a user who makes very good Godzilla content, he even made a Battle Royale with his own version of Ultima's true form.
So underrated
Goji-Chironic Monsterverse Godzilla burning forms is said to output atomic pulses. That are equivalent to a super nova , and as hot as a red giant. So MV would be star level.
But it takes a lot to make that burning form.
💀
Agree
But then like, the building that didn't get melted when he did the pulses has star level or higher ap?
JOKE DON'T GET MADDD
Is it said that his visuals are like a glowing supernova not his direct atomic pulse as that would a inconsistent and a hyperbolic statement.
To say a supernova’s attack potency is large planetary even at the bare minimum is just outright downplay. A supernova is literally what happens when a STAR explodes. At the BARE MINIMUM, a supernova is star level.
can you do godzilla ultima true form vs void ghidorah would be really interesting😀
Great video as usual!
OMG can't wait
Godzilla Earth in my opinion definitely has the best modern day Godzilla design.
Finally goji chronic posted again 😂
I actually don't count MV in reiwa because the reiwa mostly is reboots and hardly any continuing story
We all knew who was going to be the strongest godzilla earth got this covered
I actually thought you would do game Godzillas, it’s fine though, I can see why you didn’t use it since there isn’t that much Godzilla games, at least if it’s made by toho, since there are some fan games that might be good for the vid, still hope you do it though
Good thing he did not added the statement that MV mechagodzilla has the power in his proton steam which has been said that it had the energy of 100000000 times the energy of the universe which is ironic
Im sorry to say my man
But now thanks to monarch legacy of monsters the battle with muto prime and shinomura ain't canon now
😢😢😢😢
Anyways good vid
Hope seeing new vids about godzilla vs jla!!
its still canon
@@titanusgodzillaa4274
Yeah man i still want to believe that...
Monarch;Lom, didn't deliver anything good
It has a lot of contradictions with the actual lore, and the human presence is awful
Yet they leave with references to a second season, like if that would be any good to the franchise ☠️
@@user-wy1hb5hy5g if legendary comes out saying it’s not canon, it’s not canon
@@user-wy1hb5hy5git takes place after aftershock
There is nothing that suggests that godzilla's fight with muto prime isn't canon. Even if it wasn't he'd still scale to muto prime
Love how your videos come out on my final day of the work week, shit is peak.
Shin adapts and solos, I don’t make the rules.
*Shin vs Heisei *
Shin: nah I’d win
Amen.
@@Goji-C factss
Tbh i'd put gemstone above legendary, just cuz his skin is metal and much harder, while legendary could get stabbed, bleed etc.
godzillas skin is much stronger than metal
@@Mrcurryedits metal godzilla skin is much stronger than basic godzilla skin.
@@thebigfurious-ghidorahanim5672not rlly legendary survived the Permian impact while gemstone only survived an town block explosion
@@Kiryusagafan The permian impact itself wasn't as strong as people seem to think it is. Yes it's worldwide effects were huge, but the impact itself wasn't as much. Gemstone still did take a huge impact. And the difference is that godzilla was severely injured by the permian impact, gemstone didn't care much about his impacts.
@@Kiryusagafan Also you can see a difference when legendary gets hit vs gemstone. Legendary godzilla does bleed, and get injured, gemstone godzilla's skin is like metal, he just takes it and we hear a metal noise, sometimes it starts burning though.
Looking forward to the singular point goji scaling
So MV Godzilla is possibly small or large planetary???
By each movie, show, or book comes out the stronger he gets.
Since Snow Godzilla is a modern one, where does he scale?
City level
@@titanusgodzillaa4274 damn. Bro is fodder 🥺
I know that you did what if kiryu and evangelion (I don’t know if I wrote it right it’s very difficult for me to write the name of the show) swapped verses but I was wondering if you could do Kiryu VS Eva-01
I forgot to add this but it’s quite obvious it’s the fact the kiryu and Eva-01 are very similar to each other.
Minus one and legendary Gman are the GOATs
scaling ultima, who is a lovecraftian eldritch deity from beyond time and space, who's mere existence warps the fabric of reality and continued existence would destroy the universe entirely, as "island level" is a fucking crime
He quite literally said the avatar lmao
Goji-Chronic literally said he was only talking about the avatar.
4:37 To be fair, this is not the actual account of AnnoCinema. Someone already pointed this out in your video from a month ago comparing shin Godzilla and minus 1. I hope you don’t continue making this mistake, because it can take away from your argument.
4:35 that’s actually a fan account and not the real Hideki Anno
Do you think this guy does his research?
Godzilla earth will forever be my favorite version of Godzilla
*HES BIG*
or she cuz they gave birth to a smaller version of it called fillius Godzilla
I wonder how Gemstone Godzilla would scale if he actually is Godzilla Jr from the Hesei era
It's been hinted at that it is the sequel for GvD.. but unless toho officially confirms that it is the continuation of it we would never know
Can you do? A kong one
I have a cuastion in monach legercy it is said that the hollow earth is a dimension or another universe then isn't mv G universe+ ?
I am a Shin Godzilla fanboy.. the only reason Shin is my all time favourite is because of the horror and the creator. But.. I seriously understand why Shin is weak and everything-
gemstone > ultima (show) >>>>>>>>>> earth >> legendary >>>>>>> minus one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shin.
Do you have any plan to scale Ultima true form? Like in the novelization version of him.
Can I get the link to Greg’s statement about Godzillas AP? I couldn’t find it anywhere
I personally think he doesn't like any godzilla movie if it doesn't have strong feats💀
Classic goji-chronic W
Im looking forward to a "How strong is MV godzilla really?" and the high-ball calcs go ludacris
filipe?
@@snow-cheirus ?
@@draculemihawk6120 eh, forgit about eht
Ong RESPECT MV.
0:52 I include it as it's own thing outside of the Reiwa era not because I'm one of those elitist fanboys but because it's becoming it's own franchise at this point, no hate on the MV though it's actually decent tbh but the community is BAAAAAD.
Mv godzilla can go up to solar system via the atomic breath statement and the dc crossover, which can be argued to be canon to mv
You earned the medal for stupidest take all day
Not liking Minus One is crazy
I know right! I don't even disagree with the scaling as a whole, it's pretty well scaled. Just the movie take is what gets me.
I like Minus One, but everyone’s entitled to their own opinions.
Minus one is a masterpiece
Wait isn’t Godzilla earth only 100k tons? I mean legendary goji lifter muto prime who weighs 140k tons (I forgor the exact weight) so that means legendary Godzilla can lift Godzilla earth?
Durability:
Earth’s beams:
Earth’s shield:
@Acnologia120 fr?
@@dietsnuts1619 godzilla earth weighs 100,000 tons. Legendary is 99,634 tons, muto prime is 135,000. MV ghidorah is 141,056, heisei mechagodzilla is 150,000. Keizer is 100,000. FW, MV and heisei can all lift and throw earth given how all 3 lifted and thrown kaiju just as heavy or heavier than earth.
Godzilla earth is a plant based organism. He no bones and thus less density than he should, so despite being the heaviest current incarnation of godzilla, he's sort of lightweight compared to much heavier kaiju
Redo Godzilla Singular point PLEASE 🙏
Sad with the Ultima downplay, Not even talking about the true from, The avatar was stated to be able to destroy Reality itself and the avatar is also stated to be a higher dimensional being so you can pretty easily get the avatar at 4-5D, we also have to talk about hax 😔
Doesn’t the novelisation have some Complex Multi shit for his true form?
@@ItsButterBean1020i dont rlly scale the true form much i know more on the avatar being its destined to destroy the reality during the catastrophe, The true form can use the final phase red dust though and intern get towards hyperversal
It's stated but never shown so it can't be proved.
@@uberrex8073I mean, a lot of Godzilla’s who are scaled have feats that are stated but are never really shown. Heisei Godzilla and Showa Godzilla are perfect examples of this where the scaling that is done for these 2 is based mainly on a lot of statements that don’t represent what’s in the movies. Plus Showa Godzilla seems to be consistently scaled as one of the strongest Godzillas despite most of his scaling coming from Zone Fighter which is kinda unfair as other Godzillas don’t get that advantage.
When are you going to scale Godzilla vs Evangelion
You can scale mv godzilla to planet level as he can rival shimo who’s stated to have world ending powers
W vid
This is a cool video
LETS GO wait where’s zilla
zila isnt modern adaptation
Goji-chronic, have you seen Godzilla battle royale part 2 animation by Slick
wait so what did godzilla earth scale to
Yes
@@drdino2002 wth does yes mean
Solar system level
50m drawf star - solar system
300m Solar system - Multi-solar
@@minilla2382 oh ok thanks
Up to debate, but Shin Godzilla... probably the best godzilla movie. Dispite the fact I will openly acknowledge I am a Shin fan boy, I'm not gonna make claims about his strength. There isn't enough data about him to say how strong he is, and his strength is very circumstantial as it scales. He could cover the whole earth with flesh and destroy all life if left alone long enough, but he could also very possibly be stopped before this. His highest forms are likely immensely more powerful than any of these, but who says he makes it that far.
minus one vs gamera rebirth?
Hey Goji I know it’s a random request but I was debating someone who was trying to argue spacegodzilla > Kratos saying space was 11d could you cover this topic please 🙏
W vids gang
Oh my god thank you so much for saying shin is the weakest because I'm so tired of delusional shin fans saying "he can just adapt" without even knowing anything abt their "fav kaiju"
It's funny too, because more than half of all iterations of godzilla adapt to varying degrees, some far more effectively than Shin.
It's not really helped by the fact that people take upon the rhetoric of a series of faked plot leaks to scale him
Evolved Godzilla no 1
4:35 This shit scan is not valid, AnnoCinema's bio explicitly says he is not Hideaki Anno, stop spreading misinformation.
I just went on Twitter to confirm whether or not this comment is true, and I can confirm that this comment is facts.
AnnoCinema is NOT Hideaki Anno.
Doesn't gemstone Godzilla aka Godzilla Jr scales to base heisei Godzilla
Hope you dont mind i take some scans from the MV Godzilla section
Tearicali shin Evolution in infinity
Wait i thought the reason the bunker bommers hirt godzilla cause his dorsal fin area wasnt covered in his skin???
I completely forgot Godzilla Earth destroyed black holes.
That’s fuckin nuts 😂
Easily solar level.
Power scale for 1998 GTS Godzilla?
Aren't supernovas/Gamma rays are solar system level
Why didn’t you like Minus one?
I don’t think Monsterverse isn’t included in the Reiwa era because people think it’s worse, but simply because it’s its own thing entirely. And the names for the Godzilla eras come from the Japanese rulers, so idk