The Ultimate 1.8T Chassis, the Audi S3 8L
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2023
- The Audi S3/A3 8L was never available here in North America, but Clayton managed to track one down to be his new daily. Maybe not the most practical daily when it comes to replacement body panels but the rest of it is just an Audi TT 225 in disguise. Of course we had to dyno it to give it a bit of a health check before it gets modified.
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Small, light, and AWD. Not to mention great power potential.
I've had one for the past 10 years... they're a lot of fun. It already had Whiteline sway bars and PSS Coilovers when I bought it but understeered really badly on the track. I fitted some camber/castor plates, dialled in a little toe out and changed the sway bar settings to soft front/hard rear (they were set the opposite way) and it turns in brilliantly!
It also already had the Blue Haldex unit, 3" exhaust, FMIC and EBC.
I tuned it with Eurodyne and the K04 maxed out at 205 HP but that's on a Mainline dyno so very conservative compared to dynojet (actually more conservative than Mustang and DynoDynamics).
I have thought about upgrading the turbo and exhaust manifold (but don't really want to do engine internals), so it will be interesting to see what you come up with.
Awsome cars! Had many here in the UK, decent ones still fetch 5-6k
They're not particularly light for the size/era, I've had one of these and also the fwd a3 variant which was 1050kg and 350bhp!
@@slonky821 light in regards to AWD VW/Audis'. VW/Audi definitely not light. lol
Love mine! G35-1050 going on it in the new year
"The Ultimate 1.8T Chassis" is a good title for this episode, the S3 was at the top end of the 1.8t VAG platform in it's day, a future classic for sure!
Nice one Clayton, I'm looking forwards to seeing what street mods you choose 😉👍
Def my boy
Owned one for 20 years - running 27PSI and never had a single oil leak. Great car.
Best upgrades were anti-roll bars, eurethane bushes all round, down pipe and haldex upgrade
Oh, the dog bone mount too. At that age, a lot of the pipes would be going too. From memory, awesome GTI or Forge used to stock pretty much every replacement pipe in silicone. Otherwise MK1 Audi TT parts are almost all interchangeable
What's your mileage at? Want to buy a 2003 1.8 S3 with 92k miles for £5000, remapped to 280BHP. Though its likely it will sell soon because it's such a good deal, so I might have to get something with 130-160k miles. Is it really a problem?
@@raddrock559 I sold mine last year with only 110k km (in Australia). Only maintenance problems required for all is the pixels dropping in the display screen (due to the connector behind the dash) and all the rubber piping needs to be replaced with silicone over time. Headliner sags in some too
@@Randy-lg1qoright okay, though the ones i’m looking at are 130k+ miles so will probably be a different story
@@raddrock559 meh, still a great engine and platform - everything is simple enough, plus you guys have more n cheaper parts.
The rust from ur salted roads seem to be the biggest problem for any old car from what I’ve seen
I own one also. S3 8L facelift. Parts are also a pain in Europe. Factory only has a few via Audi Tradition
Pumped for this as I'm in the process of bringing a Mk1 TT Quattro back to life with the same engine/drivetrain.
As am I,... 04 , tons of work, but not stroked. Big turbo. Would love to hear about your car, live in Michigan.
Super cool to see this video pop up from you. I initially followed you after seeing the hooptie as I had just bought an S3 8L and all I was searching for at the time was 1.8T stuff. I hope there will be follow up videos on this with mods!
Yes!!!... I have owned my 2001 8L S3 for 15 yrs... absolutely love it... been modded a fair bit over the years but is currently running a 3.2 VR6, GT3582r, DQ250 DSG box (500ish hp)... look forward to see how you get on with yours
Looking forward to see alot of content on this car😎👍
These are common as hell in the UK, they run about £3-8k (~$4-10k) depending on condition and spec but for tuneability and reliability they're amazing bang for buck
Well my boy needs a windshield lol
@@COMotorsports I can source one here for pennies
in NA region...this is a 12k-25k car now depending lol
@@UngluckIncwhat for that thing?
Wooooo! Love these! Nice purchase!
Excited for this build
Can't wait to see what you do with this Clayton!! My favourite 1.8T platform with crazy potential. Enjoy it man!
Cool stuff! I've definitely never seen one of those. That torque spike looks like it would make it a pain in the ass to drive in the winter, so good luck!
I’ve always wanted one of these! Congrats man enjoy!
More Clayton! Role reversal is awesome! Lol. You guys need a shirt for the Seated Heats phrase!!!!
Love that there is more Audi S3 content, i have one and i love it
So jealous… absolute dream car. Congratulations on the new daily🎉
It's nice to see the face behind the camera other than the voice and OH And you did a great job to Dave. Clayton good job on the dyno.
I can't believe seeing one on the channel ! Nice
So hype for more 1.8t stuff
Hands down one of the best hot hatches!
Super video🔥, here in europe we have also Skoda Octavia and Seat Leon on the same platform (4x4 1.8T) and they are beasts !
Would love to have one of these always loved them.
What an awesome little car, great find. The panel with the trunk button looks really puffy like the U.S version my euro one is flat. So much potential waiting to be unleashed in that car.
I love this role reversal (also love seated heats)
Wow, and no sunroof. It’s perfect.
Agreed! They are all easily imported in Canada now too, seen a few in Ontario over the years!
We got them in Australia and new Zealand, I have a 03 s3 love the car
Finally! a car i own in BC Canada! cannot wait to follow along.
same interior spec tooo
Na ,we enjoy seeing you to clayton! , you did great on the dyno!! But always miss that steady hand behind the camera 😉 😂.
I have one of these in Imola Yellow in SOCAL. Great fun car and awd is great to have too!
Are you going to dubs on the shore?
@@natethemechanic9076 Ill probably go but I wont enter the car since its not show ready unfortunately
We like seeing Claytons pretty face on camera
Super jealous! Always thought these were really cool, and upset they didn’t come to the States.
Yes! S3 8L AUS Crew checking in
This is my dream car that I never knew existed. Honestly though, this era was at VAG's peak.
Nice to see a s3 8L! I have a nogaro blue with blue recaro's as a weekend car in Belgium. facelift model 2001 with AMK. Mine has an airtec intercooler, r8 coils, 3" inch Zinram exhaust, Link ecu and H beam rods in it. 272hp and 380nm. Im considering a hybrid tte360 turbo but than i also need upgrade clutch they told me.
Oh my gosh I want one!!!!
Great motors I have a A3 1.8tqs 8l and a tt 225 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
As far as the lights are concerned, I just upgraded my euro spec xenon headlamps and installed led bulbs instead of the D1S HiD bulb. Plugs into the factory ballast and definitely brighter. Give that a shot. Bought a kit on Amazon.
I drive the A3 8P, wish they made the 8L's in North America too. Cool new Daily.
Great car, it was also available in Mexico, you may get some parts over here.
Love it!
Im from the uk and have a s3 8l in negaro and a mk3 Vr6t so I’m all over this content ! Be great if it gets a Vr6t ! 😎
I have an S3 in noggy blue to 🎉
Definitely would be my choice!! Either an S3 or a Golf R.
Those wheels are fire
Sweet man, I got a base a3 1.8 here in Ontario
1997
I had a double cup holder in the dash of my 2001 VW Golf 4 door 1.8T! The original 4 door GTI for sure, then I traded it for a new 2003 Golf R32! 😂 I sure miss that Golf with the APR tune!!! No worries I own a 2003 VW Passat W8 Sedan with... of course the 6-Speed manual. God I LOVE this Passat❤!!!
I had an A3, the very first year model of it. Those headlights were so bad that it was terrifying to drive at night. You couldn't see anything. High beams were worse than my friend's W211 Mercedes E280's low beams, and those are already poor. The A3 had the 100hp 1.6 gasoline engine, but at least it was pretty fuel-efficient.
So I ended up not drive much outside the city lights, even after replacing the bulbs with better ones... Still pretty much useless in a dark road. When I traded the A3 with a B7 A4 that had the bi-xenons, oh boy. OH BOY. Massive upgrade. Amazing headlights. Still the best headlights I've had in my own cars, so far. The A4 was otherwise a disaster (3.2 V6 constantly had something wrong), though. I do still miss those headlights.
defiantly better in winter than golf!
now thats a cool daily
Had a Noggy blue since 2016. Its cost a fortune, but it still looks great today and still feels quite punchy.
Very cool car, did all S3s come with autocross package a.k.a none sunroof from the factory?
nice score on a rare car
Had a a3 1.8t sq 6-speed -99. Fun car but felt like a fwd at all times. Nice content tho!
Bring it out to the track next year! I got a shit box 8N 225 TT I’m prepping for time attack
This platform works great whit the k04-064 from new s3
We also got the Seat Ibiza FR/Cupra and Polo GTI/CUP EDITION even smaller chassis with 1.8T but FWD in Europe. But we never got the Jetta GLI😢
I’m so sad , I sold mine in October, it’s so hard to get body parts for these cars in South Africa
I like the s3, but like you said they are not sold in North America, so I’m swapping my mk4 gti to awd and building a 2.0 stroker, peloquin front and rear differentials using hpa to control haldex.
I had the same problem with my hood also :D I put some low expanding foam inside, to keep the broken pieces in places and to stop them from rattling :D It sounds a bit crappy but actually it works.
P.S. if you do that cover everything with something, because the foam will come out and make a mess :)
That was my idea.
Got an 8l s3 and mk4 golf 4motion 😎
NIce little cars. Lighter than TT's, same engine and gearbox (it's actually the same size as a MK4 Golf, as it shares the same platform). A3's are good tracktoy's (check my videos for a FWD A3 8L track videos, although it's far from being a full track car). You will love it, that is for sure, and you know your way around 1.8T's so you will make this AWESOME! Keep it up!
thats my olde s3 dude!!, if you want some more info on it, shoot me a PM
Hell yeah! ❤
Hy CO Motorsports Team. I came across your channel by chance because I was looking for 1.8t tuning. I watched all the videos with your Hoopti. It was amazing that it could lift it. I just want to buy an S3 1.8t myself and Then I'll miss out on more power. I'm very excited about more content. Can it also have the 400 hp with stock engine and modified valves. It should serve as a daily. Greetings from Germany
We make 400whp in them frequently.
switch the camera up more between you two, it's a good jam :)
Its the 1.8t car ive always wanted but i live in the states so i gotta wait a few more years before i could get it imported.
Is there a link to where you bought it from?
You can also get parts from Mexico and anywhere south fyi.
It's basically a 225 1.8t not a bad little car
Nice daily!! Low low insurance rates I bet!! Also wow it is left hand drive jdm just wow..... I want one of those mk4 Bora 4motion!!!
The Silver R32 we did on the channel was the same deal, brought in and LHD.
Sweet. I wana a3 vr6 or tdi
Now that I am older I would much rather have this than my TT. Still looks cool enough to not feel like a grocery getter and plenty of room in the back for practical use. I can't even fit passengers in the back seats of the TT ;p
Yeah and the trunk in the tt is basically useless. I owned one, nothing practical about it. Lol
Need to see a build video on the drag car engine.
There's a full engine build video
i drive golf mk4 1.8t AGU big port head. i would like to do some upgrades
Hey, I have a forge side mount IC but I bought it for a GLI I had and never put it on
You guys want to buy it if fits the S3?
Sometimes you got to change hats and get it done.
S3hoopt whit the Gtx35 would be super cool
Would love to see how you
tune that torque spike. My car does it too. Probably turbo characteristic, but im sure you can remedy it with a little tuning, less timing down low, more boost up top-idk your the pro. Bubbling with excitement 🙆♀️
It will all come down to what Clayton plans to do with it. However to answer your question it's the nature of small turbos but it can be controlled in most cases with the proper boost strategy.
@COMotorsports The nature of the small snail. 🐌 That gives me an idea. Probably just swap the gate spring and ramp in the boost with the boost control. That why you're the Goat, kind sir🫡.
You have the facelift model because AMK and the headlights. But its the first time i see the White recaro's in a facelift? I feel like they swapped them in maybe?
Be carefull with the seat flip system. It likes to fail😅
The roofthing fliping out is a normal s3 8l thing. Be happy its not rusting there on the pannel. 😂
"Don't jerk the wheel! Can I jerk myself?" LOL. btw that engine bay is clean
LMFAO....Bizzar-o-world..youre both too much..Congrats on the Daily Clayton.
I hate to say it as much as I do love any Audi..that ass end looks like a Civic..I know there is a special place in Vallhalla for me saying that.
They’re essentially a B6 MK4 😂 just way better looking! I like it, nice snag!
I feel the pain with the candlestick headlights. Our B6 winter car…the headlights are on. What they’re actually doing? Fkt if I know bud
In case you didn't know, Mexico is North America and where in Mexico was that model sold?
I'm aware Mexico is part of NA... however is the S3 sold there? That I didn't know.
These AGU motors vs the CDL motors. Which is the superior TFSI engine amongst the EA113 S3 models
This is not a EA113 engine.
Hahahaha!! Seated heats....holy crap boys I thought I was the only one that said that! 😂
I look forward to the next videos of this project.Iam from czech republuc and in our country is audi s3 and tt are one of the most popular cars with 1.8t.I wish you good luck with thr S3 and enjoy this car.
As a proud owner of S3 8L and true maniac of these for the last 10years I always love to see Americans finding out this chassi and explore it. I follow few great owners of this platform based in America & Canada and they take care of their cars as they should!
Statesides3 , gaijins_s3s , cmb_s32t and few others i can’t think off right now.
I ❤ s3 hatch back‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🇩🇪🇩🇪
S3 are awesome if I could find one and afford it would love one but Canada just doesn't like cars cant wait to see what yall do with it 1.8t Nevaaaaaaa looooosseeeeeee hahahahah
😮 Dont sell those covers. They impossible to find. Keep them for the OEM look. It increases the value on this old car. These are Gems
I love that car and I really expected more hp. I have a K04 1.8T (it is on E85 and methanol injection) but based off weight and distance traveled I make 300whp and torque to match at like 28psi though. I don't have a big torque spike either, or at least not anything noticeable. I did the tuning and I doubt that number is accurate because it's never seen a dyno but I still expected more...
I doubt you'd be at 300whp, however E is magical so who knows. Typically tuned k04s here on our 91oct pump gas will make 210-230 with all the bolt ons. This one is clearly just stage 1 and stock everything.
@@COMotorsports yeah this thing has just about every thing done to it, the engine currently is stock. Once the new engine and turbo are on I may go to a dyno. For now the way I do it is close enough. I would like to see how close that number is to actual dyno numbers though.
A hybrid K04 will get you there. I wish they would test a HYBRID K300 turbo or some like that
Which injectors you have?
@@keijokojootti7790 only 550s but at 4 bar they flow 660, if I remember correctly. They are basically maxed out plus spraying a bunch of methanol in it. If it wasn't for the meth the injectors would have tapped out a long time ago. Plus since I'm using meth and E85 I target .85 lamda at full load. Which is pretty lean for the amount of boost I'm putting in it so I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
I wish they would have done an 8V S3 in a hatch.
I want one
How much does this go for? I've been wanting one
Like any car it will all depend on the shape.
Change the n75 to fix oscilation.
never lose
I can grab parts in the UK and send them over
Always wanted one of those but USA problems. Can't wait to see what you guys do with it!
Great cars and going up in price quick! And yes some of Japanese supplied cars were lhd which is quite common.
Also headlights might be set up for driving on left in Japan.
Enjoy the "new" car and safe driving OOOO Audi life