I could honestly see this go anyway: 1. Obvious choice is a stalemate. Heimdall cannot be hit (without a legendary forged weapon or something matching its power/ capabilities) & Baldur cannot be killed. The fight could be potentially endless. 2. Heimdall wins. Heimdall’s foresight is extremely useful. Mimir and Sindri both stated they had never seen him get hit nor lose a fight. On top of that, Heimdall seemingly knows Baldur’s weakness. The only thing not in his favor is that he is a pretty lousy fighter. 3. Baldur wins which is what I put. Baldur is a never ending storm without mistletoe. Never tires and he always comes back for more. Kratos defeated him post mistletoe because well… he’s Kratos. Heimdall does not have the strength like Kratos to overpower Baldur on a physical level so that’s problem number 1. Problem number 2 is that Baldur can quite literally break the ground beneath him and Heimdall is not immune to splash damage. Problem number 3 which I think is most important; Baldur is crazy. He fights kind of sloppy honestly, but there is force in his blows. He’s wild and unpredictable, it might be hard for Heimdall to read a madman. Just some thoughts I had :)
You are very intelligent , the Wiki of God of war Ragnarok, says heimdall Is strongest than baldur, baldur Is a very young God he have a 100 years old.
As annoying as he was, Heimdall was pretty freaking cool the fact that he forgot how it felt to be hit and how no one other than Kratos could even get close to actually hitting him is so cool
@@loai9689 Heimdallr eventually had his senses overloaded by the Draupnir spear exploding. It was a magical superweapon created for one purpose. To kill him alone. The other thing that went against him is his lack of combat experience. Kratos is used to having his back against wall. He knows how to dig deep. These Aesir gods don't know what its like to lose especially Heimdallr. The other thing that's being overlooked here is Heimdallr being a master of Bifrost. That makes him extremely dangerous. Without the Draupnir spear I don't see any Aesir god or Kratos being a match for him. He made Atreus look weak and slow in comparison.
@@JayzVeez yes I see how inexperienced they are my point was like heimdal will defend and dodge but in the end he will get tired in facing immortal man like baldur or destroyers like thor and kratos he looked so scared and confused when thor stopped him and threatned from hitting atreaus
@@loai9689 Heimdallr is also a God. I don't see him getting tired easily. He would be expending less energy dodging than Baldur or Thor doing their best to hit him. Their frustration would grow and they would get more and more desperate. Not only is he able to dodge but since he can see their attacks coming he's able to anticipate and counter attack with ease. Don't forget his devastating use of bifrost. I didn't interpret his reaction to Thor as fear. It was more of disgust at what he saw Thor thinking about doing to him than actual fear. The danger of Heimdallr is being significantly underestimated here. The ability to read minds and anticipate their actions makes him exceptionally dangerous. Thrud who is strong enough to wield Mjolnir was made an absolute fool of by Heimdallr. Atreus looked like a little kid trying to fight him. He would've beaten Kratos without the spear.
Can someone explain this?I watched a vid about Kratos vs Goku and Krat cot speed I saw the comment saying that he has infinite speed so why I saw some Krat vs Flash and saw Flash got speed kinda confused
@@twisted_paulo_mc8685 That was a Kartostard , Kratos definitely isn't faster than Goku and doesn't have Infinite speed , but he would win against Goku because of "hope"
@@shivkawalkar8649 no actually, in the comics of God of war, he dodges helios's light, which instantly lit up the entirety of hades. Which is infinite in size. He dodged it when he used it. (I'm not a kratos tard, but it's actually true)
@@twisted_paulo_mc8685 it's because flash is infinite in speed... with kratos it's complicated, since he has shown to be able to dodge an infinite speed attack in its comic. Although I'd say flash could beat kratos regardless due to his op hacks
@@abhirupkundu2778Kratos was doing his best... Baldur is just that good. To be honest I don't find any fight in Ragnarok to have the same intensity of the final Baldur fight
@@hybrid1540 Baldur is the literature God Of Light and the only thing Heimdall has against Baldur is realm Shift also Heimdall is definitely Fast but not as Fast as Baldur and the only reason he can dodge even Kratos’s Attacks is because of his foresight but that’s Reaction Speed not Combat Speed or Travel Speed
Well literally everyone hated Heimdal. They never considered him a real Warrior and he was annoying at parties. Based on what Mimir said, they placed bets on how many arrows he could take so Baldur obviously messed around alot in Asgard. They probably wouldn't get along
@@KimchiKakashi maybe but they were both bullies so they may have respected each other as in baldur knew Heimdall couldn’t be hit and Heimdall knew baldur couldn’t be killed
Baldur seems to be generally respected in Asgard by all. I can’t even remember any dialogue by the aesir disparaging him (other than he was losing it of course)
If Baldur has his curse i can see him eventually getting a hit on Heimdall and then it will play out just like in Ragnarok where Heimdall loses control and then Baldur will just finish him off.
lol that is if we assume Heimdall has infinite stamina. If this fight lasts a long time the only one tiring out would be Heimdall not Baldur... and when he eventually loses all steam one good punch from baldur is enough to knock Heimdall out considering the fact that he defeated the world serpent and did some pretty good damage to Kratos with just his bare hands
Actually, this would be an endless battle, because baldur is immortal and heimdall can't be hit No matter how much heimdall hits him, he can't die and no matter how much baldur tries to hit him, he can't be hit...
@@MorallyDubiousFrog heimdall was said to never lose a fight nor get hit, + he knows baldur cus of odin so they've probably flighted a little back then
@@muhammadeyssa23648that's not stupid, imagine you can't feel any things for the rest of your life. Can't taste, touch,..etc. you would be the second baldur to be honest.
I think that Heimdall (in GOW V) mainly has a low battle IQ because of the fact that he reads minds. He does not need to think of a strategy to beat the others because he can just "look up their ways". You can see this mainly in the (*SPOILER*) battle between Kratos and Heimdall. Kratos thinks of a strategy while Heimdall stays this arrogant, thinking he is winning anyways. If he had a good/stonger battle IQ he would've countered it or came up with a plan instead of just rushing his enemies.
Man who can't die wins, he can't die the other can it's that simple it's like how with an unstoppable force and an immovable object the immovable would just break
@@Aryan_Pat31 Breaking would be moving so no . If you're suggesting Baldur has some way of killing Heimdall without touching him , that argument could be considered , till then you're oversimplying this into a meaningless conclusion .
Baldur was insane, making it much harder for Heimdall to anticipate his attacks. We all know that it only would take one hit from baldur and heimdalls mental fortitude would crumble, and baldur can go on forever, take an infinite amount of damage and never relent. Heimdall would eventually get overpowered and after that first strike lands, he will be so shook he will lose his ability to dodge the rest.
Id give reflexes to Baldur. Heimdall has the ability to predict the future (to an extent) and uses that. Baldur was shown to dodge many of Kratos' attacks when he chose to without that ability.
Finally someone who doesn’t give Heimdall more speed than Baldur and the main reason people say Heimdall is faster than Baldur is because he can dodge even Kratos’s Attacks but that’s just his foresight and that’s only Reaction Speed not Combat speed or Travel Speed either and the only thing Heimdall can do against Baldur’s Speed is Realm shift but Baldur is the literal God Of Light and I’m pretty the Fight would just Go like this: Heimdall keeps Dodging Baldur’s Attacks while Baldur keeps on Tanking and Healing from Heimdall’s Attacks eventually unlike Baldur Heimdall does not have Infinite Stamina like Baldur has and he’ll eventually Get tired and will be at Baldur’s Mercy
False. If someone is fastef than you it doesnt matter how fast you react. If you move away in the moment you see the person moving the hand and his and his hand is 100 times faster than you moving away means the fist is still gonna hit you. That means heimdall is faster too because if he would be slower than baldur heimdall wouldnt be able to dodge Kratos.
@@xeox4280 that means he goes at the speed of light, not that he makes light, play the game again and youll see how much faster baldur is, heimdall has foresight and that allows him to dodge every attack, thats not speed, thats just his ability, baldur is clearly faster
@@ap3x581 No because that would be under abilities or in this case power, if he slowed down time because of raw speed then he would get speed but in this case it is an ability which slows down time not increase his speed.
Heimdallr had his number in the beginning. The unlimited replication of the spear and when it was going to explode overloaded his senses. Kratos had a rough strategy for dealing with Heimdallr and knew his biggest strength from the beginning. If Kratos had met him cold without the spear he wouldn't have lasted against Heimdallr.
Not exactly the same Kratos, Kratos was training these 3 years and is stronger then he was in 2018 as the devs stated plus he has the spear, i believe heimdell could definitely defeat the God of war 2018 Kratos.
Heimdall is also older than Baldur, not only that but he has more experience growing up as Odin's right hand being trusted so much, even Odin knows that no one could outsmart his son entrusting the horn to Heimdall. experience goes to Heimdall
Let’s be real, Thor and Heimdall were tough af, but Baldur was such a MENACE in GoW4. Literally would not stop hunting you down throughout the entire game and would keep coming back from whatever unbelievably crazy damage you give him.
Heimdall could be hit by Kratos because of the speed of the spear, Baldur is the god of light, we can see he be faster than the air when he uses his power, so, he can easily kill Heimdall, using his speed and strenght, and the fact that he wouldn't feel nothing Heimdall uses against it, so, Baldur wins
Baldur would simply speed blitz heimdalls’s reaction speeds. Baldur is the god of light; even his movements were rendered to “just a blur” to Kratos. His speed if at the level of the Valkyrie’s; who travel between the realms without using the bifrost. Heimdal would get absolutely rocked by Baldur; especially if the invulnerability is still applied.
The fact that Kratos even in Spartan Rage couldn't hit Heimdall needing "The stick" and that not even Mimir or Sindri have ever seen Heimdall being hit places him above Baldur.
Not exactly the same Kratos, Kratos was training these 3 years and is stronger then 2018 as the devs stated plus he has the spear, The only reason the final fight with Baldur took long is because he got assisted by Freya, heimdell could definitely defeat Baldur.
Exacto ,muchos dicen que Kratos se contenía pero la realidad es que el peleaba en serio para salvar a atreus ,lo que me gusta de baldur es que el pelea a puño limpio ,no depende de ningún arma
Kratos needed a special weapon to overthrow heimdalls enhanced senses and precognition. Baldur has neither that intelligence or patience. He would mindlessly swing and at that point he’d have to be faster than heimdalls reaction. Which could be possible. But I’m not sure.
Kratos had to spartan rage to overpower baldur and baldur only used one hand to choke Kratos even when he didn’t have his invulnerability and baldur is faster than a suppressed Kratos a holding back Kratos was fast enough to hit hiemdall baldur should also be fast enough people underestimate baldur without the magic enchantment he still gave a holding back Kratos a challenge and his durability magic didn’t really help him until Kratos broke his neck
@@Xiter2024 Nothing changes if even baldur has more speed than him. This fight will be pointless. Immortal guy who fight with god with foresight. Baldur will not touch Heimdall Heimdall not be able to kill Baldur. Endless battle
@@Xiter2024 I think you are wrong. Odin was the only one who heimdall cant read. Even mindless beasts like ogr or draugrs he can. Thats my opinion. You have yours
I feel like Heimdall's mind reading wouldn't really work on Baldur for one reason. He doesn't think, he just does. Baldur's fighting is based on pure instinct
I wish we could see how life was for them in Asgard before Magni and Modi died. Their stories were interesting to hear when Mimir told us,too bad we’d never see it happen
"Baldur had the pleasure to play with fire without fear of getting burnt. I outsmart the enemy, dominate them fair and square," (c) Heimdall. Pre-mistletoe the win goes to Baldur with no-diff. Post-mistletoe the battle could go either way, with me bidding on Baldur (high diff)
Guys don’t forget heimdall is described as the fiercest swordsman of the nine realms and the herald of the end times don’t go thinking he’s just a dude that likes to dodge shit and run away like Hermes lmao
He is nothing like Hermes , Hermes only had travel speed so he could only run . We don't know Heimdall's travel speed but we do know he was essentially untouchable with his foresight and combat speed .
This would basically become a battle of attrition, Baldur will not be able to lay a finger on Heimdall (Mimir implies in the game that he’d never seen anyone successfully hit him until Kratos came along) and Heimdall’s attacks will be utterly ineffective against Baldur so it’s just a matter of which will last longer: Baldur’s Patience or Heimdall’s stamina.
Although Heimdall’s foresight gives him a big advantage, 1. He’s not immortal like Baldur (as long as Heimdall didn’t bring mistletoe), 2. Heimdall would eventually tire out while Baldur would have almost never ending stamina, and 3. Heimdall isn’t as skilled as Baldur, even though, like Lobo stated in his comment, Baldur is a somewhat sloppy fighter
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I could honestly see this go anyway:
1. Obvious choice is a stalemate. Heimdall cannot be hit (without a legendary forged weapon or something matching its power/ capabilities) & Baldur cannot be killed. The fight could be potentially endless.
2. Heimdall wins. Heimdall’s foresight is extremely useful. Mimir and Sindri both stated they had never seen him get hit nor lose a fight. On top of that, Heimdall seemingly knows Baldur’s weakness. The only thing not in his favor is that he is a pretty lousy fighter.
3. Baldur wins which is what I put. Baldur is a never ending storm without mistletoe. Never tires and he always comes back for more. Kratos defeated him post mistletoe because well… he’s Kratos. Heimdall does not have the strength like Kratos to overpower Baldur on a physical level so that’s problem number 1. Problem number 2 is that Baldur can quite literally break the ground beneath him and Heimdall is not immune to splash damage. Problem number 3 which I think is most important; Baldur is crazy. He fights kind of sloppy honestly, but there is force in his blows. He’s wild and unpredictable, it might be hard for Heimdall to read a madman.
Just some thoughts I had :)
Baldur can be stopped though while heimdall would never be touched.
You are very intelligent , the Wiki of God of war Ragnarok, says heimdall Is strongest than baldur, baldur Is a very young God he have a 100 years old.
Kratos he trained for three years for the fight of Thor, while for baldur Kratos Don t fight a God for 1000 years..
@@matteoborzacchiello5388 source?
@@Xiter2024wiki of God of war baldur wiki God of war Powers and ability, he Is defintly lower than heimdall, odin and Thor
Pretty sure power goes to baldur bro. He legit knocked out Jormugandr in 3 hits and repeatedly overpowered kratos who was holding back
my man power it is not power it is strength power is like high amount of energy like thunder fire divine energy
Ur talking abt raw power, that goes to Baldur, power is abt abilities and Heimdall definitely has more abilities than Baldur.
"Holding back" Just fucking stop already
@@Johnny3Batony Baldur was holding bck when he had his immortality. U jus can accept it bc ur so in love with kratos
Bruh kratos was the one that knocked out jotunheimer
two of the coolest characters
Facts
They are badass not cold
*Kratos has joined the chat *
@@harshsharma-zt7ll well I can say Heimdall was badass but Baldur was cool asf
@@harshsharma-zt7ll no he have said coolest not coldest
Sucks we didn't get to see baldur interact with other gods
Thors sons
@@romes_vfx9937 Yeah but Thor's sons don't carry the same weight in name as Heimdall, Odin, Thor, etc.
@@xyrotswelp he did with the God of War tho
They should have brought him back for ragnarok
@@faridabouhi9500каким образом ?
As annoying as he was, Heimdall was pretty freaking cool the fact that he forgot how it felt to be hit and how no one other than Kratos could even get close to actually hitting him is so cool
heimdall no match for Baldur in combat like he can dodge but for how long he can do that?
Hes just like hermes tho
@@loai9689 Heimdallr eventually had his senses overloaded by the Draupnir spear exploding. It was a magical superweapon created for one purpose. To kill him alone. The other thing that went against him is his lack of combat experience. Kratos is used to having his back against wall. He knows how to dig deep. These Aesir gods don't know what its like to lose especially Heimdallr. The other thing that's being overlooked here is Heimdallr being a master of Bifrost. That makes him extremely dangerous. Without the Draupnir spear I don't see any Aesir god or Kratos being a match for him. He made Atreus look weak and slow in comparison.
@@JayzVeez yes I see how inexperienced they are
my point was like heimdal will defend and dodge but in the end he will get tired in facing immortal man like baldur or destroyers like thor and kratos
he looked so scared and confused when thor stopped him and threatned from hitting atreaus
@@loai9689 Heimdallr is also a God. I don't see him getting tired easily. He would be expending less energy dodging than Baldur or Thor doing their best to hit him. Their frustration would grow and they would get more and more desperate. Not only is he able to dodge but since he can see their attacks coming he's able to anticipate and counter attack with ease. Don't forget his devastating use of bifrost. I didn't interpret his reaction to Thor as fear. It was more of disgust at what he saw Thor thinking about doing to him than actual fear. The danger of Heimdallr is being significantly underestimated here. The ability to read minds and anticipate their actions makes him exceptionally dangerous. Thrud who is strong enough to wield Mjolnir was made an absolute fool of by Heimdallr. Atreus looked like a little kid trying to fight him. He would've beaten Kratos without the spear.
I like how heimdall catching the arrow is in rhythm with the song
I didn’t even notice that bro
Can someone explain this?I watched a vid about Kratos vs Goku and Krat cot speed I saw the comment saying that he has infinite speed so why I saw some Krat vs Flash and saw Flash got speed kinda confused
@@twisted_paulo_mc8685 That was a Kartostard , Kratos definitely isn't faster than Goku and doesn't have Infinite speed , but he would win against Goku because of "hope"
@@shivkawalkar8649 no actually, in the comics of God of war, he dodges helios's light, which instantly lit up the entirety of hades. Which is infinite in size. He dodged it when he used it.
(I'm not a kratos tard, but it's actually true)
@@twisted_paulo_mc8685 it's because flash is infinite in speed... with kratos it's complicated, since he has shown to be able to dodge an infinite speed attack in its comic. Although I'd say flash could beat kratos regardless due to his op hacks
Baldurs got this, even after the curse he was tanking shots from both father and son.
Imagine atreus died, I am prettu sure kratos would bring a 12 magnitude earthquake with his punches on baldur everytime 💀
@@abhirupkundu2778Kratos was doing his best... Baldur is just that good.
To be honest I don't find any fight in Ragnarok to have the same intensity of the final Baldur fight
@@Heavenly_Father Bro,kratos was doing his best but it was nowhere as brutal as gow 3 kratos
@@Heavenly_Fatherhahahaha no, in the First fight in the end the Power of Kratos Is 1 of 100 hahahah
@@abhirupkundu2778 Baldur can’t feel anything. It could be Kratos from God of war 1-3 and Baldur would still be tough fight everytime.
Heimdall would eventually slow down or get caught off guard and one hit from Baldur and his foresight is gone, after that he gets melted
Doubtful
I don't see how he will slow down
He don't even slow down fighting against kratos
Yes kratos even held back during the fight not the same for baldur he is brutal
Take away freyas spell and heimdall negs diff buldur
@@Dr_Diaz Fax
Baldur is one of the biggest and strongest boss fights in the entire saga
Heimdall's evil smile 🔥🔥
When the other character takes speed, you already know what’s going down 💀
Speed actually goes to Heimdall.
Speed goes to Baldur
But Heimdall know better how to use his speed
Baldur speed > Heimdall speed
Heimdall use of speed > Baldur use of speed
@@funnyvalentine4048 Speed goes to Heimdall bro.
@@hybrid1540 Baldur is the literature God Of Light and the only thing Heimdall has against Baldur is realm Shift also Heimdall is definitely Fast but not as Fast as Baldur and the only reason he can dodge even Kratos’s Attacks is because of his foresight but that’s Reaction Speed not Combat Speed or Travel Speed
@@slayerofwar1915 Heimdall is faster bro.
Tbh I wish we saw a scene with them together bc I'm quite curious to think what baldur and heimdall thought of each other
They we’re probably bros
probably hated each other
Well literally everyone hated Heimdal. They never considered him a real Warrior and he was annoying at parties. Based on what Mimir said, they placed bets on how many arrows he could take so Baldur obviously messed around alot in Asgard. They probably wouldn't get along
@@KimchiKakashi maybe but they were both bullies so they may have respected each other as in baldur knew Heimdall couldn’t be hit and Heimdall knew baldur couldn’t be killed
Baldur seems to be generally respected in Asgard by all.
I can’t even remember any dialogue by the aesir disparaging him (other than he was losing it of course)
Just to be honest in my opinion it's basically a never-ending fight since Baldur can't die and Heimdall can't be hit.
If Baldur has his curse i can see him eventually getting a hit on Heimdall and then it will play out just like in Ragnarok where Heimdall loses control and then Baldur will just finish him off.
Nah. Heimdall saw that Thor could kill him. So imagines Baldur who is already crazy.
Yeah he might not be able to get him but he’s not durable as Boulder and it’s not like Kratos didn’t hit Heim at all
What then baldur is still alive😂😂
lol that is if we assume Heimdall has infinite stamina. If this fight lasts a long time the only one tiring out would be Heimdall not Baldur... and when he eventually loses all steam one good punch from baldur is enough to knock Heimdall out considering the fact that he defeated the world serpent and did some pretty good damage to Kratos with just his bare hands
Actually, this would be an endless battle, because baldur is immortal and heimdall can't be hit
No matter how much heimdall hits him, he can't die and no matter how much baldur tries to hit him, he can't be hit...
There is a pinned comment that explains why the creator said Balfour wins. It also talks about how the others might win
Who is balfour? BALDUR!
and I saw that. Just wanted to tell
Heimdall would eventually tire out from dodging. Baldur, on the other hand, cannot feel fatigue.
Hemidall cant be hit
Kratos : who decides that?
@@MorallyDubiousFrog heimdall was said to never lose a fight nor get hit, + he knows baldur cus of odin so they've probably flighted a little back then
Durability is a free point for baldur😅😅
In short: UnTouchable Object Vs Unstoppable Force
KRATOS:I'm gonna end this two men whole career
he already did :|
He got lucky that Baldur wanted to be stupid and feel things so the curse got removed tbf...
@@muhammadeyssa23648that's not stupid, imagine you can't feel any things for the rest of your life. Can't taste, touch,..etc. you would be the second baldur to be honest.
@@johnnguyen9576freya did it while Baldur expresses he didn’t want it, so I’d go coo coo too tbh
Fun fact: Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical
😱
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats , physical or magical .
Baldur to Heimdall: "do somethin ebaout it, you fooking Fuely"
*Iykyk*
Now I appreciate more Baldur, he really was a cool character and enemy, badass.
Battle iq goes to heimdall wtf he can read minds he can see what his enemy’s are going to try lol
I think that it goes in abilities , not pure battle IQ .
People can fight without thinking
@@take_a_photo22 true but then why even put battle iq on there
@@Anotherduck6396 it's an ability
I think that Heimdall (in GOW V) mainly has a low battle IQ because of the fact that he reads minds. He does not need to think of a strategy to beat the others because he can just "look up their ways". You can see this mainly in the (*SPOILER*)
battle between Kratos and Heimdall. Kratos thinks of a strategy while Heimdall stays this arrogant, thinking he is winning anyways.
If he had a good/stonger battle IQ he would've countered it or came up with a plan instead of just rushing his enemies.
" A man who can't die against A man who cannot be touched. "
Man who can't die wins, he can't die the other can it's that simple it's like how with an unstoppable force and an immovable object the immovable would just break
@@Aryan_Pat31 Breaking would be moving so no . If you're suggesting Baldur has some way of killing Heimdall without touching him , that argument could be considered , till then you're oversimplying this into a meaningless conclusion .
@@Aryan_Pat31 unless its a sparring match
*kratos laughing*
Baldur was insane, making it much harder for Heimdall to anticipate his attacks. We all know that it only would take one hit from baldur and heimdalls mental fortitude would crumble, and baldur can go on forever, take an infinite amount of damage and never relent. Heimdall would eventually get overpowered and after that first strike lands, he will be so shook he will lose his ability to dodge the rest.
Heimdall has the power of foresight, effective making him untouchable.
2 of my favorite GOW villains
Heimdall's Goofy Ass Smile💀💀💀
He so zesty I swear
Bro how did you get this to look so good!? This is fire
Alight motion but problem with that now is you have to pay for it
@@The_Big_Boyz I use CapCut for these type of edits.
Id give reflexes to Baldur. Heimdall has the ability to predict the future (to an extent) and uses that. Baldur was shown to dodge many of Kratos' attacks when he chose to without that ability.
Bro really gave speed to baldur lol
Heimdall don’t has Speed he has Reflexes thats why he is dodging everything
Finally someone who doesn’t give Heimdall more speed than Baldur and the main reason people say Heimdall is faster than Baldur is because he can dodge even Kratos’s Attacks but that’s just his foresight and that’s only Reaction Speed not Combat speed or Travel Speed either and the only thing Heimdall can do against Baldur’s Speed is Realm shift but Baldur is the literal God Of Light and I’m pretty the Fight would just Go like this: Heimdall keeps Dodging Baldur’s Attacks while Baldur keeps on Tanking and Healing from Heimdall’s Attacks eventually unlike Baldur Heimdall does not have Infinite Stamina like Baldur has and he’ll eventually Get tired and will be at Baldur’s Mercy
Finally someone who understands
False. If someone is fastef than you it doesnt matter how fast you react. If you move away in the moment you see the person moving the hand and his and his hand is 100 times faster than you moving away means the fist is still gonna hit you. That means heimdall is faster too because if he would be slower than baldur heimdall wouldnt be able to dodge Kratos.
@@xeox4280 he is slower than baldur, baldur is the god of light, heimdall just sees intentions, thats not fast at all
@@h1gh_end134 Hes the god of light and didnt make any light. No. Heimdall is faster. Just play the games again.
@@xeox4280 that means he goes at the speed of light, not that he makes light, play the game again and youll see how much faster baldur is, heimdall has foresight and that allows him to dodge every attack, thats not speed, thats just his ability, baldur is clearly faster
Cuando puso lo del IQ indiscutiblemente estuve de acuerdo en que el ganador de ese rubro era Heimdall xD.
finally, someone who knows the difference between speed and reflexes
Wouldn’t Heimdall still get speed coz he can slow down time anyway?
@@ap3x581 No because that would be under abilities or in this case power, if he slowed down time because of raw speed then he would get speed but in this case it is an ability which slows down time not increase his speed.
False. Heimdall is faster
@@quizmaster3628 fax
@@xeox4280 Baldur is faster when it comes to travel speed and combat speed
We need a prequel to see Baldur and heimdall bickering
experience, battle IQ, speed goes to Heimdall
Baldur gave Kratos much more issues than Heimdall, ez clap for Baldur
Take away the spear of Kratos and Heimdall would stomp him
@@andreleandro6931 Good luck trying to
Heimdallr had his number in the beginning. The unlimited replication of the spear and when it was going to explode overloaded his senses. Kratos had a rough strategy for dealing with Heimdallr and knew his biggest strength from the beginning. If Kratos had met him cold without the spear he wouldn't have lasted against Heimdallr.
@@JayzVeez Heimdall still cant ko Kratos.
It would be inconclusive and eventually interrupted
Not exactly the same Kratos, Kratos was training these 3 years and is stronger then he was in 2018 as the devs stated plus he has the spear, i believe heimdell could definitely defeat the God of war 2018 Kratos.
Baldurs just a straight up badass
Heimdall is also older than Baldur, not only that but he has more experience growing up as Odin's right hand being trusted so much, even Odin knows that no one could outsmart his son entrusting the horn to Heimdall. experience goes to Heimdall
Baldur is odins left hand and Thor is his right but heimdall is odins eyes
Let’s be real, Thor and Heimdall were tough af, but Baldur was such a MENACE in GoW4. Literally would not stop hunting you down throughout the entire game and would keep coming back from whatever unbelievably crazy damage you give him.
Couldn’t have broken it down better myself. Best comparison I’ve seen.
This battle would probably go on forever or a long ass time because baldur can’t die and heimdall can’t be hit
Una pelea la cual su duración se determina con la paciencia de heimdall
Bro is a little too obsessed with Heimdall💀💀
Heimdall: forgot how it felt be hit
Baldur: forgot how pain works
Kratos: claps them both
Honestly it's very difficult to know who would win. They are both very evenly matched when you think about it
Agreed but I’d feel like this would be an endless fight
Baldur wins no diff
Heimdall could be hit by Kratos because of the speed of the spear, Baldur is the god of light, we can see he be faster than the air when he uses his power, so, he can easily kill Heimdall, using his speed and strenght, and the fact that he wouldn't feel nothing Heimdall uses against it, so, Baldur wins
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So how come Baldur died to Kratos when he didn't even have the spear that he needed to touch Heimdall ?
It's not the spear itself, Heimdall literally catches the spear, it's the spear's effect when ignited
His reputation as light =/= speed. Hes not called light cause he's fast, its cause hes a kind hearted god if I'm not wrong.
@@GuyChooo Nah, he's the God of Light cause he's fast but he's also the God of Peace.
Name song?
After dark
Even in death people speak glowingly of him.
Given how crazy baldur was, I don't think heimdall would want to read his mind
Damn it would've be soo awesome to see Thor, Heimdall and Baldur together
Baldur would simply speed blitz heimdalls’s reaction speeds. Baldur is the god of light; even his movements were rendered to “just a blur” to Kratos.
His speed if at the level of the Valkyrie’s; who travel between the realms without using the bifrost.
Heimdal would get absolutely rocked by Baldur; especially if the invulnerability is still applied.
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I honestly think that baldur with the spell can defeat even thor
What does this have to do with thor
Of course he would with the spell he literally cannot die or get tired while Thor will get tired and can die
Bruh he can defeat ANYBODY 😂 He’s immortal and too durable with the curse.
@@luckyraygun1607 true
@@muhammadeyssa23648eyssa here damn💀 ye baldur actually the strongest opponent kratos faced
The fact that Kratos even in Spartan Rage couldn't hit Heimdall needing "The stick" and that not even Mimir or Sindri have ever seen Heimdall being hit places him above Baldur.
When heimdall start catching arrows it hit different😂
Baldur is litteraly invicible 💀
y’all realize that Heimdall was terrified of Baldur right?
When?
Heimdall was never terrified on anyone, specially Baldur!
in actual Norse Mythology?
i love baldur
Beutiful edit 😍
im pretty sure this batlle will never going to end, because the durability of baldur and heimdall just gonna dodge any attack of baldur
Heimdall was a prick i agree but something about him makes me like him his design was OP!
Balder has the power
Baldur solos. He gave Kratos more challenge.
no
@@davide_6 yes
Not exactly the same Kratos, Kratos was training these 3 years and is stronger then 2018 as the devs stated plus he has the spear, The only reason the final fight with Baldur took long is because he got assisted by Freya, heimdell could definitely defeat Baldur.
To be fair Heimdall is the only Aesir God that force Kratos to get another godly weapon specialize to kill him.
No
Battle iq baldur…
Finally someone says that baldur is faster than heimdall
Baldur doing the Markiplier punch 😂
Para mi, baldur fue el unico que le dio una batalla a kratos bien fuerte
La resistência de Baldur era assombrosa
Exacto ,muchos dicen que Kratos se contenía pero la realidad es que el peleaba en serio para salvar a atreus ,lo que me gusta de baldur es que el pelea a puño limpio ,no depende de ningún arma
Kratos needed a special weapon to overthrow heimdalls enhanced senses and precognition. Baldur has neither that intelligence or patience. He would mindlessly swing and at that point he’d have to be faster than heimdalls reaction. Which could be possible. But I’m not sure.
Kratos had to spartan rage to overpower baldur and baldur only used one hand to choke Kratos even when he didn’t have his invulnerability and baldur is faster than a suppressed Kratos a holding back Kratos was fast enough to hit hiemdall baldur should also be fast enough people underestimate baldur without the magic enchantment he still gave a holding back Kratos a challenge and his durability magic didn’t really help him until Kratos broke his neck
I feel like I remember hearing that when they fought in the past, it ended in a stalemate.
Why does Heimdal always remind me of those evil statues that come to life. ...
how tf does baldur hs heimdell on speed
Because Photokinesis... lol
Heimdall only has reflexes.
@@Xiter2024 Nothing changes if even baldur has more speed than him. This fight will be pointless. Immortal guy who fight with god with foresight. Baldur will not touch Heimdall Heimdall not be able to kill Baldur. Endless battle
@@AndrewKonop Baldur was crazy, Heimdall wouldn't be able to read him.
@@Xiter2024 I think you are wrong. Odin was the only one who heimdall cant read. Even mindless beasts like ogr or draugrs he can. Thats my opinion. You have yours
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Baldur was a straight G he was a badass villain, even tho he was broken from his parent's greed... Also he would straight smack Heimdall
Cap.
Heimdall's smile is really creepy 💀
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I feel like Heimdall's mind reading wouldn't really work on Baldur for one reason. He doesn't think, he just does. Baldur's fighting is based on pure instinct
O cara ser imortal é uma apelação, pq mesmo que ele perca eternamente, em algum momento ele vai se adaptar ao inimigo kkkk
I find it funny how if both characters in their prime the fight will never end can’t feel pain/die and can’t get hit
One way I can see Heimdall losing is he gets way too cocky and that could be his downfall when fighting someone who can never stop like Baldur.
The difference here is baldur can fight forever, heimdall cant
Baldur was one of the best competetors ever
Baldur without mistletoe vs Thor would be an interesting fight
I wish we could see how life was for them in Asgard before Magni and Modi died. Their stories were interesting to hear when Mimir told us,too bad we’d never see it happen
How did baldur get experience Heimdall is like 3.8 billion years old😂
Baldur is Odin's yougest child, so that means Heimdall gets experience
Tbh, Even after Baldur’s curse got lifted, he was still taking that ass whooping better than Heimdall taking a simple shot to face 😂
"Baldur had the pleasure to play with fire without fear of getting burnt. I outsmart the enemy, dominate them fair and square," (c) Heimdall.
Pre-mistletoe the win goes to Baldur with no-diff.
Post-mistletoe the battle could go either way, with me bidding on Baldur (high diff)
I’m pretty sure Baldur was the only thing that kept Heimdall humble
Guys don’t forget heimdall is described as the fiercest swordsman of the nine realms and the herald of the end times don’t go thinking he’s just a dude that likes to dodge shit and run away like Hermes lmao
He is nothing like Hermes , Hermes only had travel speed so he could only run . We don't know Heimdall's travel speed but we do know he was essentially untouchable with his foresight and combat speed .
This would basically become a battle of attrition, Baldur will not be able to lay a finger on Heimdall (Mimir implies in the game that he’d never seen anyone successfully hit him until Kratos came along) and Heimdall’s attacks will be utterly ineffective against Baldur so it’s just a matter of which will last longer: Baldur’s Patience or Heimdall’s stamina.
The definition of “the unstoppable force vs the immovable object”.
This fight would just never end
Heim knows about Mistletoe
Even he broke baldur curse he cant defeat him baldur still more strong and durable @@TheCourtsOfLove
It would have been interesting to see a fight between and man who can endure any attack vs a man who can dodge any attack
IQ for Baldur .. He was a good enemy
“Immortality”
Should just end there
Baldir with invulnerability is the most overpowered character inGOW lore not even the Olympic gods could beat him.
Baldur is pretty crazy so I doubt Heimdall would be able to read his mind if baldur didn't really even know what he was doing
They feared Baldur because no matter how much they hit him, they didn't hurt him, they didn't directly touch Heimdal.
Bro really gave battle iq to baldur 💀
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Although Heimdall’s foresight gives him a big advantage, 1. He’s not immortal like Baldur (as long as Heimdall didn’t bring mistletoe), 2. Heimdall would eventually tire out while Baldur would have almost never ending stamina, and 3. Heimdall isn’t as skilled as Baldur, even though, like Lobo stated in his comment, Baldur is a somewhat sloppy fighter