Remington 700 SPS Review: Still the king?
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2021
- Remington 700 SPS Review: still the king?
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in this video we take a look at the Remington 700 SPS chambered in .308 Winchester, this is my opinion on this rifle designed and catered towards the varminting and long range community.
the real question i think should be does the Remington still hold its place after being basically unchanged after so many years, does it still compete with it competition? does it hold its own?
well in this video you will find out. after redoing the load development we took her out to 980 yards, no small feat for a Remington 700 or even for the .308.
the Remington was upgraded with the following:
-CADEX DX2 EVO trigger (this is a single stage/ dual stage trigger) best of both worlds
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and the Boyds thumbhole Varmint stock (wood just gives it this timeless beauty; and lots of configurations and colors to choose from)
www.boydsgunstocks.com/conten...
the muzzle break we were using is the CoreBrake V3 by Coretac Solutions
www.coretacsolutions.com/prod...
the optic we were using is the
Tract Toric UHD 4.5-30x56 a premium optic for those who want the best money can buy with no compromise.
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or there's the more affordable 5-20x50 still great glass lots of internatl adjustment and a zero stop
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one of the tools we generally use on the channel is the Kestrel (we didn't use it today since there wasn't any wind)
for the Kestrel (wind meter: major essential tool)
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info from REMARMS website:
TThere is a cost that comes with high performance, in this case, it's a lot less than you think. The Model 700™ SPS™ (Special Purpose Synthetic) offers everything you love about the legendary Model 700, all at an extremely affordable price. The Model 700™ SPS™ is leading the way for the next generation of hard-hitting, fully-featured, affordably-priced rifles. From the rock-solid receiver design to the famous "three rings of steel," the Model 700 SPS offers the unrivaled out-of-the-box accuracy and high-end performance you've come to expect from America's most popular bolt-action centerfire rifle.
Features include an improved, ergonomically designed synthetic stock, carbon steel barrels and receivers drilled and tapped for scope mounts. All exterior metalwork features a matte blued finish. Now the Model 700™ SPS™ Youth is offered in a left-handed version chambered for 243 Win and 7mm-08 Rem-the first-ever southpaw youth rifle offering. Our new Managed Recoil 7mm-08 Rem ammunition is the perfect complement to this addition.
Specs from Remington :
27359
Mag capacity-4
OVERALL LENGTH-43 5/8"
AVG weight-7 1/4
barrel lengh-24"
Barrel MAterial-Carbon Steel
Barrel finish-Matte Blue
Stock Material-Synthetic
Stock Finish-Matte Black
Twist Rate-10
Lenght of pull-13 3/8"
Drop comb-1 3/8"
Drop /heel-1 1/8"
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thats pretty awesome. been on the fence about remingtons recent stuff. this video convinced me to go with my heart
I put a tactical bolt knob on my Remington 700 from KRG. Super easy to install and really helps with bolt operation.
I'm rocking a Rem 700 ADL Varmint 26" barrel in .308 Win. Paid $475 for it from Cabela's, then I upgraded the stock to an adjustable Bell & Carlson A5, installed a Magpul detachable mag system, replaced the awful 10 lb default trigger with a Timney, then topped it a cheap Sightmark Citadel 5-30x50mm. Remmy 700s are like the Honda Civics of bolt-guns. Easy to mod, and a plethora of aftermarket/performance accessories.
Got it with lefthand system and a Leupold 4-20x50 scopeon it - great rifle for the price !!!
As a Canadian living in the US, I assemble and build my own rifle. Out of all actions, I find Remington by far the easiest and simplest to build up to "professional" standard. Of course, there are so many modern actions in the market now, including eternal original Mauser action, but Remington 700 action can be fitted in most up-to-date stocks and bases that you will get the similar result with minimum workload and cost - also, it is very very reliable (My latest is Rem 700 Short in 308 + 40X trigger + Badger Ord. steels + Magpul stock...a consistent 1000 yarder).
Great vid- my 700 I modded right off the bat. No muzzle break yet... yet!
Just out of curiosity was the barrel allowed any cool down time? Looked like a bunch of ammo shot in one session. Thanks good video
I love my first Remington 700 SPS 308 26” heavy barrel. Gunsmith threaded for me and installed SureFire muzzle brake. First, I upgraded the stock to Bell & Carlson M40 style, torqued to 60 in-lb. Second, I replaced the trigger with Timney Elite Hunter, adjusted to 2 lbs pull. Favorite Ammo is Federal Premium MatchKing 168 grain. Definitely sub-MOA.
Out of the box, the bolt was not very smooth, but after a couple of years with 1000+ rounds, it is getting very smooth now. Finally I changed to “Modern” Oryx chassis, and equipped with USO TS25 5-25x50 scope. It’s fun to shoot.
Recently I bought another SPS 6.5 CM, 24” at around $560. Clearly the stock is a throwaway, much downgrade from my previous SPS 308. I didn’t even try to shoot but swapped the Bell & Carlson stock. Last weekend, I took it to range using Aguila 140 Grain to break-in. First 5 shots made 2” group with one flyer. Then the barrel got hot quick, the rest of two groups looked like shotgun. So I let it cool down and cleaned the barrel and bolt face. Then I shot 5 Winchester 125, achieved 1.5” group. That’s it!
I just ordered a TriggerTech Primary Independent single stage 1.5 to 4.0lbs pull. Look forward to seeing if it works better.
It's crazy the prices now. I bought a Rem 700 Varmint chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor just last year - brand new in box - for $399 USD. Upgraded to Triggertech trigger, put the barreled action on a Grayboe Ridgeback because, let's face it; the factory stock is basically like shooting off a piece of soggy lasagna. I also mounted a Bushnell Elite Tactical DMR II, and shot it PRS this year. It's a 1:8 twist and shoots 130's at 2810 and sub MOA. It's been a great rifle.
How did you like the grayboe stock? Was looking into one for my R700
Typical millennial who has the wrong assumptions, never tested the rifle and has never been happy with anything but pizza pockets and happy meals.
Saw your stock in another video, then I was so impressed by it I came here to admire it some more. 😂👌
haha, yes it beautiful!
long time shooter and viewer, i just come here for the shirts now. greetings from Australia :)
hi David! thanks for the suport!
Do you think you could do a tikka ctr for your next review. Keep up the great work your videos are very informative!!
Hi Evan, thanksnfor the sujestion. While i will have owned all the tikka models that are for long range, thats one that i will likely not buy. For the reason the the barelled action in the CTR is the same as the barelled action in the tikka UPR (we have a review completed on it) the only difference is the stock. So if you are looking for a review on it id recommend checking out our tikka upr review. Additionally its the same barelled action that they have in the tikka Tac A1, and i have one of those on the way (still in the mail somewhere) thanks for watching!
Hey I have a question about this rifle. I have a bergara wilderness 700 foot print action and I’m buying a bell and Carleson long range hunter stock for it. The stork is a direct replacement for the sps 700 heavy barrel could you maybe tell me the diameter of the sps barrel at the muzzle and at the end of the forend I’m curious how the size of the sps barrel compares to my bergara and if it will match up close or if there will be a huge ugly gap along side my barrel in the new stock. I’d appreciate any help because I can’t find theses measurements anywhere!
That’s a joy to watch! Great rifle, great shooting!❤
I have the 783 in a laminate stock 26" heavy barrel. It's awesome 1100yards is where I'm hitting out to with it.
Wow thats pretty great! I just bought a hunting 783 (thin barrel) coudnt find a heavy barrel in stock anywhere in Canada.
That's a shame. Well mine is chambered 243 it's an awesome shooter. I hope you find one brother.
The 783's are tac drivers!
I've got 5 700 s, they shoot very well too
Can you do a video on the Rem 700 223 with installing a barrel tuner/brake.
I just installed a HARRELS tuner/brake on my Rem 700 223 and @ 100 yds. my best 5 shot groups have reduced from 5/8" to 3/8" for only $150.00 CDN. 40% reduction.
So now my factory barrel performs like a precision barrel (Bartlein) which would have cost me some $1500.00 CDN.
I love my first Remington 700 sps 308 26'' like you said upgrade when you can like I had a $200 scope on it at first then I upgrade the stock to a grayboe renegrade clone to McMillan a5 stock, then put vortex razor hd gen 2 4.5-27x56 with the tremor 3. basically I kinda clone of the ''M40A5'' and i put triggertech flat trigger in it. and Im sub-moa
I'm looking for any reviews since remarms became a thing. I also hope moving to Georgia improves quality, if they even move the 700 production there.
Hi Alex, great review. How much elevation did you need, for shooting it 980yrd? I want to shoot my 308 that far and have no idea, if my scope has enough adjustment for that... Thanks in advance
Hi Lucas, at 980yrds i was dialed 11.2 mils up or (39.2 moa), keep in mind thats with a 178gr eldm travelling at 2605fps aprox. Most 600 usd optic should be able to acomplish this with a 20 moa rail. Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot. I'll try it😊👍🏻
Great review, I have 20" sps and put it in an Oryx chassis and put a triggertech flat trigger in it and shoots awesome. Stock trigger was terrible!
I upgraded the stock to the Archangel. It's great.
Thank you for a great video. 2607fps is not fast with that bullet for a 26" barrel in 308. I own a bergara B14 Bmp in 308. The barrel length is 24" and pushing 185 Berger juggernauts @2750fps easy. I am using vihtavuori N550 and lapua palma brass with Federal 205M primers. My SD about 4 fps. My coal is limited to 2.840 because the bergara feed ramps are long. Thanks again for a great video.
Hi Krizml, thanks for the info, are you getting presure signs at that velocity? Thats pretty great. I have some vithavothuri n550 for my 300wm, that im reloading for still have to do some load confirmation though
@@EpikArms Thank you. No pressure signs at all. I loaded already .4 gr over my current charge weight during ladder test with zero pressure signs but I chose the charge weight where I had the best sd node. The reason i did not mention the charge weight is because the vihtaviori load data is useless. I started at min charge and worked my way up. In that manual just compare the data for the sierra match king 190 gr and the berger 185gr juggernaut bullets with n550. You will see the problem. I shoot both. 185 bergers are great but expensive and hard to find. I leave in Europe and bought them from the Us. Not cheap....
Berger 185’s are running 2600 out of my 20” bartlein with just under 41 gr of H4895
Not the King but it is still an excellent rifle with lots of upgrade options.
Who is king
It was when it came out
@@dmanlangley7326 my Howa 243, is one in a million, so if you're talking about stock guns.
I'm thinking of getting one of these since I already have a left handed 700 CDL 30-06 as my hunting rifle. I'm thinking 308 because you just can't shoot that far in the mountains of northern Virginia anyway and M80 is much cheaper to shoot. I've heard a lot of good things about the Bergara but they don't make any LH rifles so will have to go with an SPS, except I don't like the bad things I'm seeing about the poor QC on new production 700s. Can I reasonably expect a 700 SPS built today to be reliable or am I dreaming? Thanks. PS.....nice vid and great shooting
Great looking Weapon .
I've owned this rifle for years and have always been able to outshoot my friends Tikka. Great video and great rifle. Thanks Alex
What about Browning x 🔩
Good review. I stick with remington because of all the after market parts availability. I also can rebarrel myself with remage barrels.
I’m so glad you mentioned how you couldn’t get the trigger below 4.75lbs….I thought I had a faulty trigger. I’ll just get an aftermarket
i mean technically the trigger is faulty, its a known issue, but i would just do the upgrade. and go with somethign like the Triggertech or the Cadex
@@EpikArms you’re right agree…. I have a waypoint 2020, of course you know it has a trigger tech….it’s an awesome trigger
You can get a bolt on bolt knob. KRG and MTD make one for like $30
This is off topic but I need some help! I’m getting my first hunting rifle which is the savage axis 2 chambered in 6.5 creedmoor. My question is should I get the sig sauer whiskey 3 optic or can you recommend something in that same price range that’s better? If you have an Amazon link I’d be happy to purchase using the link. Thanks!
hi John, thanks I appreciate that. i would still recommend the whiskey 3
Mark and Sam after work channel is awesome Mark is an awesome ultra long range shooter
yeah they are really next level
Have you ever reviewed a Savage Model 10?
As far as I can tell, it's discontinued.
I bought mine about 8 years ago or so.
It was only $525 with a mildly upgraded site and adjustable trigger, and it shoots like a $1500 gun in my opinion.
I was hoping to get your thoughts on it.
hi Ben techically no, but i have reviewed the savge 110 Precision, wich is an accurized version of the basic 110
@@EpikArms yes, I saw that video!
I was just wondering, because I don't know of any .308 rifle and scope combo that is more affordable. I thought it would be fitting for your channel.
I would love to find an old M24
My intention is to put together a benchrest type rifle. Shopped Savage, Tikka, and a few others, but the best triggers are made for Remington actions or clones. I know there are better than the Ren700, but $3000 is kind of the base price for a custom rifle, which is hard to swallow. Maybe after I shoot out the SPS barrel, I'll have the money to think about a $1000 action.
When he mentions accuracy at what distance is he referring? 1 1/2 at 100 seems pretty bad for that.
You have a good voice for shows or biography shows history channels speak clearly
Thanks I really appreciate hearing that!
What about the mag pull stock
I've got an older Remington 700 BDL that was made in 73 and that gun will poke out a single jagged hole 3 shot group every time I do my part right using 150 gr. Pro Hunter bullets, 57 gr. Winchester 760 powder, Winchester large rifle primers, and a cartridge overall length of 3.283. My Howa model 1500 will do the same darn thing with the same ingredients, but the cartridge overall length is 3.238. I have realized that the newer guns have tighter chambers. They are just regular hunting rifles with # 2 contour barrels 22 in. long. I always let them barrels cool off for 10 minutes between shots because it let's the barrels retract from the heat. Still have all of those targets in picture frames in the hallway. The smallest group was done by a regular Howa model 1500 243 that doesn't need a reloading due to accuracy. That damn gun doesn't care if it's a Remington or winchester 100 grain softpoint it has shot either one through a hole the size of a cigarette butt looking hole.
I've never had a gun that can do that without having to fine tune a load.
Guns like this are one in a million.
I prefer a 90 degree bolt throw. I find them easier and smoother to operate. The shorter the throw, the more force per degree of lift is required.
1.k never miss. Am i good, or the rfle? LundX
wow, the stock is beautiful , i like it , how about bedding ?
So currently it only has the aluminum pillar bedding (this is an option) , and the recoil lug is not bedded (it should be)
Is the stock glass bedded? The barrel is carbon steel? Will the bolt hit the scope? Is it a 2 stage trigger? Is the safety 3 stage?
This video you just watched is a prebankrupcy version. This is the new remington 700 review I just did. In short bolt is very close to the scope, single stage adjustable 3-5lbs. Don't recall for the safety.
m.ruclips.net/video/5IgUXNpzMZM/видео.html&pp=ygUOcmVtaW5ndG9uIDcwMCA%3D
I had my mom buy this rifle for me when I was 13ish years old with my lawn mowing money. It was on sale for $419.
Ha you had a video on it 😜. Mine actually is the sps tactical. I would consider it a budget rifle.
You made a big improvement in accuracy by replacing the factory tupperware stock. How did you bed the action in the Boyds? Fiberglass? Pillar bedding? No bedding--just screw the action onto the stock? The bedding is the most important detail for improving accuracy & you said nothing about that in this video. Boyds offers to install pillars as an "upgrade". I am asking because I am genuinely curious how you achieved your accuracy results. I suspect you may have used fiberglass bedding. I would be very impressed if no bedding at all was needed.
I shoot the exact same rifle, what bullets and powder combo are you shooting in the video? Thanks
I got the best groups with the 178gr eldms with winchester 748 powder. Although it's not ideal with that powder, you can get pressure signs faily quickly.
I have an SPS Varmint .22-250 26" heavy barrel with an VX-5 HD 3-15x44 CDS-ZL2.
I swapped the stock for Hogue overmolded stock.
Palmetto state armory has them on clearance for 500 witch is a great find on a 24 inch 308
Love the videos, but it’s the 7mm Remington magnum, completely separate from the 7mm-08
Should I buy the sps or adl?
My SPS is SWEET, and I love the factory stock. I customized the stocks color scheme,and added a suppressor to the already threaded barrel. I pillat bedded the stock screw and glass bedded the action ... Pure sweetness🥰
But what seems to be getting out this 750 yards a little quick seems like a little camera work
I'd like to review the .308 American Rookie.
Remington 700 has such a big after market too
Where do you order that trigger from? I am in Canada.
You should be able to order direclty from Cadex
www.cadexdefence.com/products/weapon-accessories/rem-style-triggers/
I have many old 700s and 40xs. Never found a 700 that couldn't be made to shoot. Recently bought several SPSs on sale for 449.00.. thair is a reasion lots of companies copy 700 rems.
if you thread the muzzle does that make it a AAC-SD model ?
good question i'm not that familiar with the Rem700 models
@@EpikArms On another thread someone stated there is no difference between a SPS and an ACC SPS with the exception of the threaded barrel.
So to answer my own question yes I now have for $150.00 cdn an ACC SPS barrel in a Strike Nuke Cadex stock.
I wish my brand new browning xbolt speed lr would shoot this nice
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It's a nice rifle, if you want to changed the stock, added a better trigger, added a muzzle break, and hit your hand on the optic with a 90 degree short bolt, so not so much!
9:21 what sorcery is that?
Would a Bergara HMR be a better deal?
When you factor in all the upgrades, yes the bergara b14 hmr is better value.
Bergara is a far better rifle
What muzzle break is that?
that would be the corebreak v3
All though good looking Boyd's is just routed out wood . And must be bedded . Bell and Carlson's long rrange hunter hac an aluminum chassis in the stock . You get a metal trigger guard , Boyd's is plastic . Also the Boyd's I had cracked .
Remington 700 varmint in 308 or tikka t3x varmint 308?
100% Tikka.
Did you say it has a carbon barrel?
that's what I read on their website
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700 SPS had 1/12" twist rate? You said 1-10"?
some of the older production models have a 1/10 twist. The later models have a 1/12. I have them both. I have two Remington 700 police models. One is a 1/10 and the newer one is a 1/12.
Hey Canada boy if it aint broke don't fixit. I've had a Remington 700 since the early seventies it still works never been repaired And accurate as h***.
Hey Backwoods, your remington 700 is nothing similar to what was was manufactured in recent years. It's well documented that qc went out the window, accuracy ... meh not in line with competition. Buy a recent one see for yourself
7-08 magnum ???
Does the 700 still have that dreaded safety issue?
No they apparently fixed that from what ive heard
@@EpikArms ok thanks, that's good to know.
Only if you bed the stock or replace it. Wont shoot a good group with flemsy factory stock
Price.
I want a 700 SPS in .243 Win for pesky varmints... or deer... or range shooting.
Not happy with mine trigger had to be changed and stock real crap ,just go for euro made and save your self the headache.
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thanks!
Sure its a 1::10 twist? Mine is 1:12
Yeah, I'm a 1:12 twist as well, off the shelf 5R is 1:11.25, nowhere near a 1:10. My 1:12 shoots best with 155 gr BT FMJ, results with heavier bullets not so good, I wanted them for a better BC.
Where do I get one of those 7-08 magnums?😬🤣
You may have to special order them, thats just the information from Remington website
@@EpikArms thanks bro! 😉
I like the factory look much better.
They feel Bonny to me
"remington" is so fun to say.
Indonesia hadir
Bergara is the King 😎
Isn't bergara a Remington 700 action?
I just bought one in 2023 for $750
My scope cost little over $900
nice what scope did you get?
Remington has went way south ! So many better options out there among different brands in my opinion.
Remington 700 footprint is just a standard for parts compatibility.. they are nowhere near a custom action and often require quite a bit of work to get to shoot. Tikka is the best factory rifle out there hands down. I considered a R700 as a fun project gun, but it ends up costing the same as just going full custom with something like a Big Horn Origin.
Creedmoor is not the best round out there. It’s only your opinion. Just like it’s my opinion.
By today's standards, those groups at 100 aren't good.
Now, I don't know the exchange rate but, US$1000 is supposed to pretty much guarantee 3 rounds sub half MOA at 100 yards and a 10 inch or better group at 1000 yards.
I'd be pissed if that was my gun
Why do you need that big of a break on a 308 😂
This is just the size the corebreak v3 comes in, I have a few other breaks,and so far the corebreak is my preffered break
For looks and a slight difference in recoil. That or he had a weak shoulder 😂
You can tell by your body positioning that your not a “ real long range shooter / competitor “. Your stance and leg positioning give it away.
Maybe watch the pros from MDT for some instructions.
I'll never buy another newer Remington rifle.
** don’t review a Lithgow. You’ll find it hard to go back to another brand again. 🇦🇺🦘
you know i was actually looking at hem a while back, once i find one at a reasonable price ill pick on up
@@EpikArms I have a couple in 223 & 308 (live in Australia so here they are readily available $1400 Aud). They are very good for the money, very accurate & extremely high quality.
1st! nope, not the king.
I was actually pretty surprised, why they could have done better, its still decent
For the price that rifle is absolute garbage. Money would be better spent on Bergara B14, Howa 1500 or even a Ruger American.
personally Id go with the remington 700 over the American, my American predator's action is horribly clunky , not even close to being smooth and the trigger has so much creep to it, and shoots 1.5" groups, although the stock is preferable, the action is not.
Not sure why a Remington 700 in .308 would be so expensive in Canada. They usually go for $500 in the States. With the difference in price, you can throw on a 20 MOA rail, cheap $200 scope, a decent trigger, and some factory ammo, then off you go. What the 700s lack in sniper quality performance, it makes up for in customization and value.
Sorry but Remington is trash these days. I'd buy a savage before I buy Remington and I hate the savage action. Even a ruger amarican can hit 1000 yards. Tikka or Bergara or CZ from now on for me.
Remington is a new company.
You ruined a great rifle by putting a horrible looking Smurf stock on it 🤦🏼♂️
Murderers. I'm glad they went bust.
Murderers?
@@EpikArms yeah, haven't you followed all the cases for the spontaneous discharges that killed hundreds of people? Remington was forced to admit it and to pay millions in settlements. Also were accused of aggressive marketing targeting young weak men and lost, most notably with the Sandy Hook victims relatives. They always looked at profit and never at safety.
The truth is .... it never was the king!
308 I found is a terrible cartridge with arc like a rain bow it shoots like.
For 30 cal I will stay with my 300 Wby mag .
308's are for gay millennial's .
I’m just poor and don’t shoot past 500 yards
That's probably why the US military adopted it in 1954. 70 years ago there were no miliniell's but since that day it's taken care of alot of enemies & bad people who one day could of reproduced for generations adding to the problems we have today. I see the 308 as a highly effective & relative caliber today. Melliniell's stick to creedmoors & Ar's and pointing Glock pistols sideways nowdays. Theres also grown 🦓 adult children that think they need a 300 Wby. Magnum to kill a fricken deer. Go figure. 💥 🙀 ✌️
@@briankeith922 Oh really you think that no one needs a 300 Wby mag well I am sure you live on the east coast and never in your life have traveled outside of your little hick town.
As a professional hunting guide since 1976 I have seen every kind of hunting that takes many kinds of rifle cartridges to match the game the types of shooting.
The 308 won't cut muster for 3/4 of the hunting I have done.
By the way the top Clue deer rifle is a 300 Wby mag because shooting over open dessert requires a long-range cartridge.
I often use a 300 Wby mag in NW Oregon for black tail deer for shooting over and across the massive coastal canyons.
@@Lure-Benson well just for your info, as a matter fact i do live on the east coast. For your info i have made it out of my little hick town on a few occasions. Been to Siuth Ga., south Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, N. Carolina, Texas, Wisconsin, Ohio, Forgot Florida, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana & i almost forgot Saskatchewan 4 times. And just this past November Kansas. Took a very nice 11 point with 243 1st morning well over 300 yards. I know thats not long by your standards but i have taken alot of game well beyond that & never needed a 300 Wby. It's not the most ethical to take game @ that distance but can be done under the right conditions & knowledge of your weapon and abilities. So yeah Mtn. Man Sasquatch, i have been a few places but have never had the desire to travel to the Summer of love west coast. Every big game animal I've taken has been non magnum rifles with the exception of a 7 mag & 7 stw & they were not needed. Stalk & hunt to get closer. Going back next year to Kansas with my little 243 & i might travel back to my buddy's place in Saskatchewan after that if i get froggy. I'll be carrying a non- magnum there as well. I'm not grizzly hunting. So let me get back to my TV program, i think my Hick town is being featured. You go clean your 300 wby. & have one hell of a evening. 💥 👍
@@briankeith922 Well lying PUNK teenager you really can make up a real liar's story.
Post a photo of yourself or you to scared to show you a pimpled faced teenager.
The most stupid to say shooting animals with a 300 Wby mag is somehow unethical?
Also, you proved you are a teenager RUclips liars' groupie you wrote the 7 mm Rem mag and 7 mm STW aren't magnums showing you haven't a clue about rifle cartridges.
The 7 mm STW is based on the 8 mm Remington magnum then necked down to 7 mm.
Your own stupid f cking shit used by the other teenager RUclips groupies that every RUclips liar fake hunter saying you stalk right up to the animal is so well used by RUclips liars.
For all the liars crap you said you are between 13 & 14 years old to write such crap.