Seeing his newer videos compared to the ones made during his MT days you can tell this man is constantly improving his craft. Even after more than a decade of making videos (i think) he is still finetuning his skills in telling great stories and making the best car reviews. Such a big fan of Jason
Being with MT was is downfall. Being paired with Liberman was a nightmare. Liberman would bait Camissa into an argument so they spent the entire time arguing which got so annoying. I stopped watching MT once Camissa left because I couldn't stand Liberman, he's insufferable. He's a hipster, made it worst when I found out he was supporting the indoctrination of 1st-3rd grade children with LGBTQ. I saw his comments praising celebrities against Desantis on Instagram.
I opened RUclips by mistake and was about to close it swiftly when I saw Jason in the thumbnail and I knew I had to religiously watch it. I was great to see young Jason come so far, only developing that charm and confidence he has today to draw in and keep his audience glued.
My first car was a 1989 E34 BMW. I loved that thing. It was kind of all I could afford as I was at the start of my career. This was 2003 or so. Loved that thing. Commuted across Sydney in that thing for years. When I got a bit of money I bought the E39 5 series in pretty much as new condition. Love those era cars. Just brilliant. I'm sure the Mercedes is also great.
Recently, I've tried out an 190E 2.5 16V for only 2 days and Cammisa's right: the ride is really impressive compared to the modern cars; you never had the struggle on going over bumps and it'll still give you enough feedback about the handling, making it feel like you're driving a proper car, not a lump of a daily commute just to go from point A to B. What I've also find impressive is the fact that its Getrag transmission still feels great and doesn't have that kind of annoyances that you find in cars around its age (i.e., the gears not getting in properly because of the wear), making the driving more enjoyable and hassle-free, despite of the dog-leg config. However, I found it really easy to use and never had the urge to shift it to Reverse because of muscle memory. In sum, I wish I could drive it again and, maybe, own it...
The shifter comparison is the most interesting bit methinks. Both dogleg and yet entirely different leagues. Shame I don't like the W201 that much, really cool car tho..especially the Evo
Mr. Cammisa I'm born in nice car era, mid 80's and I adore your style of commenting on cars, was watching top gear, fifth gear, car wow, throttle house, etc. but you are on another level of intelligence (Also Scotty Kilmer is fun to watch, but for other reasons). Keep the good job and give special care to cars like 190E and olders.
I once owned a Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 and it was an awesome car. Carfection just published a video about all the M3 and I made this exact comment and now... THIS video gets released. What are the odds of that?
I remember watching this on mtod. Was so angry that I had been lied to my entire life about how amazingly epic the original M3 was. Which, years later is somewhat irrelevant because I still want one…
Oh my God! i taught that these early films will be deleted from youtube for ever, but they're coming back. Waiting for the VW Golf R vs Ford Focus RS film which is one of the best car films ever made!
Great article about two amazing cars, you can't beat a limited edition performance car made to win in competition by a large manufacturer. I'm a huge fan of Group A and B, Homologation and the inevitable Evolution models, evocative and passionate ends of the motorsport spectrum. Due to my age, I've been very lucky to have witnessed many of these cars in full factory spec raced and rallied in anger, a true spectacle, even got to sit in some back in the day when a service area or a paddock was far less corporate with a more friendlier and open environment. Jason, what makes you're pieces just that bit better than most on these mythical categories is your superb attention to detail and facts, congrats. p.s. I think you're in Cali, if so, maybe pop along to Tim Allens lock up, I hear he has an RS200.
Amazing review❤ Really liked how he just buys the 190 on the spot :) Legend move!! both are exactly as Jason described. Had E30 325i for many years, also an easy DIY car + crazy fun to drive, true drivers car. And few month ago finally got the 190 as I always admired it too - brought home 2.3 Azzurro avantgarde Sportline model, 1 of only 950 made in total, and I daily this engineering masterpiece as it’s more “car” than the E30. When was this video made? Nice prices at that time 😮
I was fortunate enough to get to drive a 190e 2.3-16 with the 5 speed dogleg box. I must admit, it was a fantastic drive and the car is surprisingly quick and obviously quite nimble. If I had more space I would certainly have been looking to pick one up.
I agree, I’m saving money for a good condition. I drove in one cosworth engine and the ride of that car for the 190.I love the s14 engines, high rev engine, and a inline 4.
always easily forgotten in teh Mercedes 190 E 2.3 16V and BME e30 M2 story is the Ford Sierra Cosworth. This also was a very good car with a very good story. The Sierra Cosworth was the M3's biggest contender on the rally stages.
This was an epic story and I nearly bought an M3 because (in spite of?) it, having just sold my Valiant R/T Charger (Look it up - an Aussie muscle story that aches for a Cammisa perspective (ie. no money, old truck engine made good (semi hemi) and racing development done in cut and shut mule utes (that still exist)). I'm still kicking myself that I didn't by the E30 M3 (bought a MINT E30 manual 318i as a daily instead), but hindsight is a wonderful thing, it only allows us to kick ourselves in the ass...
My favorite part is that formula one block was an m10, the tractor 4 cylinder that went in every 320 e21. The best BMW is a e21 320 with an e30 M3 head ITBs and the full alpina trim. E30 M3 performance with a frankly more fun live axle for street driving, better interior and some glorious Bauhaus touches on the exterior.
I had a US 16V for ten years (and 2 engine failures). Fabulous driving car but now have something like it but maybe better: a Euro Mercedes 300CE-24 Sportline mit 5-speed Getrag, like your old 300SL. The steering, handling etc. evokes the 16V.
i came down here to complain that AMG's have sports suspension and it is not intended for comfort, but he seems like a pretty good growing youtube channel.
My mom had a 190E, but with the standard engine, and it was heavy and really really slow. I like the BMW better because it is sportier with just two doors.
This has been recommended to me again, so I guess I'll rewatch it. This was when Jason was skinny and annoying when he's with Jonny Liberman. Liberman would always push Camissa into an argument which got tiring. On his own, he's brilliant.
The name, _190E 2.3 16_ is about as characterless as 11 characters and spaces could be. That it's attached to a product as significant to the industry as it was, and to a car as characterful, engaging, and _objectively good_ as few small medium cars have ever been, is all the more surprising.
I think the greatest miss of the 2.3-16 is that the only color options were: Camry Beige and Shows All Dirt Black. At least the E30 M3 had a proper color palette to choose from.
The e30 m3 is a very cool car, but the 190e evo 2 with the full aero and the wing is pretty much objective perfection for a car like that, although i do like the "grandpas old car stealth weapon" thing the 190e in the video has going on.
Yea noo...... the e30 M3 is a way more special of a car and its the reason why it was the poster boy of DTM and group A. it also has a evo 2 stage. But the car was absolutely designed to be a race car first while being a great road car which was really the first for a touring car. Kinda like the stratos was for rally. Then the 190e was just a road car. The e30 M3 is the most race successful touring car and homologation car of all time. Most race successful race car along with the 911 and its 935 variants..... won over 1,400 races in 1500 days so that's a race win everyday for 4 years..... Klaus Ludwig, who was a 190e driver stated the e30 M3 was the better car in the documentary "Adrenaline , A BMW Touring Car Story"...... one of the most balanced cars of all time and greatest drivers car. Many dubb it the "gods chariot. GORDAN Murray the creator of the F1, claims the lotus Elan is the greatest drivers car of all time but he also claims the e30 M3 is a close second or third.
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Only problem with this video is that it's way too short. But good for Jason's son for picking up his father's legacy.
🤦♂
These types of comment is why I love internet.
@@radityaindera3442 I love this🤣
@@JasonCammisa your son is a bit short but he has the same skills as you tbh
If you want a longer video about it, just watch Hagerty, Jason explained this story with more details there a few months ago
I own a 1987 Mercedes 190e 2.3-16v. Love the car! Been in the family since purchased in 1987! Will never sell!
Very good!
how much do you want for it
0:00 Jason Cammisa video starts
0:02 The like button gets pressed
Do you wait for the video to start? SMH...
fuckin a. Him and johnny had great chemistry.
Why so late to like?
you got some of Jasons shit on your nose buddy.....
This is how a real review should look like - travelling back in time and reviewing the cars the year they were produced. Well done Jason!
Seeing his newer videos compared to the ones made during his MT days you can tell this man is constantly improving his craft.
Even after more than a decade of making videos (i think) he is still finetuning his skills in telling great stories and making the best car reviews.
Such a big fan of Jason
Agreed ! I love Jason’s videos, I know I’ll have a great time and will stay captivated for as long as the video will last, no matter the duration
My first thought too.
Being with MT was is downfall. Being paired with Liberman was a nightmare. Liberman would bait Camissa into an argument so they spent the entire time arguing which got so annoying. I stopped watching MT once Camissa left because I couldn't stand Liberman, he's insufferable. He's a hipster, made it worst when I found out he was supporting the indoctrination of 1st-3rd grade children with LGBTQ. I saw his comments praising celebrities against Desantis on Instagram.
When you review a car so good you actually buy it on the spot
Me thinking damn I know this car other than watching this same video in high school at MotorTrend
He didn't drive the nsx after a test drive..........
Damn! The current value of E30 M3s then compared to now 🤣😂😩😭
I caught that too! Anyone watching would love to buy either car at the old “current value”
190e's are cheap! At least here in the UK
@@tomfurstyfield The 16v models?
@@tomfurstyfield what do you call cheap? If you can find the twin cam 2.3 then 2.5?
A nice E30 325i with low miles is crazy money, was buying them for £300 at one time
Today I too bought a Euro 190E 2.3-16 on the spot. Can't wait to get some miles on it.
I opened RUclips by mistake and was about to close it swiftly when I saw Jason in the thumbnail and I knew I had to religiously watch it.
I was great to see young Jason come so far, only developing that charm and confidence he has today to draw in and keep his audience glued.
Jason, i love you brother.
Best Moto Journalist on Earth
i loved this video when it came out. thank you Jason for continuing to upload these icons of RUclips automotive journalism
Thank you Jason, you are a life saviour. This is our new Top Gear!
Lol I think this came out when OG Top Gear still aired
Saw these race around 1985-86 at the Hockenheimring! Was stationed in Mannheim less than 30 minutes away. 🇩🇪🏁
Holy crap, Jason's so young!
Pretty dang cute, no homo
@@alexhaile7957 he’s always been a stud wym
My first car was a 1989 E34 BMW. I loved that thing. It was kind of all I could afford as I was at the start of my career. This was 2003 or so. Loved that thing. Commuted across Sydney in that thing for years. When I got a bit of money I bought the E39 5 series in pretty much as new condition. Love those era cars. Just brilliant. I'm sure the Mercedes is also great.
Recently, I've tried out an 190E 2.5 16V for only 2 days and Cammisa's right: the ride is really impressive compared to the modern cars; you never had the struggle on going over bumps and it'll still give you enough feedback about the handling, making it feel like you're driving a proper car, not a lump of a daily commute just to go from point A to B.
What I've also find impressive is the fact that its Getrag transmission still feels great and doesn't have that kind of annoyances that you find in cars around its age (i.e., the gears not getting in properly because of the wear), making the driving more enjoyable and hassle-free, despite of the dog-leg config. However, I found it really easy to use and never had the urge to shift it to Reverse because of muscle memory.
In sum, I wish I could drive it again and, maybe, own it...
Jason is staying young by ingesting the souls of modern bmw's. Which is why the new cars are a mess.
Seeing Senna driving the 190 completely on the limit always gives me chills
My buddy had the M3 but I drove the 190 2.3 16V and fell in love with it.
That M3 looks better then any new M3
A video from the archives when Jason Cammisa was in his late 20s. 1080p in 2004 is crazy
So glad to see all these old Cammisa videos. I miss them.
The shifter comparison is the most interesting bit methinks. Both dogleg and yet entirely different leagues.
Shame I don't like the W201 that much, really cool car tho..especially the Evo
@Justinian Yi Wow I didn't know that, I'll try to get that done with mine.
Consider just how many times the world has been saved by the phrase “luckily, the engineers ignored them…” ;-)
one of the OG vids from Cammisa 😎
This gotta be my favourite episode ever!
I'm sure you're busy with Hagerty's.. Still wouldn't mind seeing another video here. Appreciate your talent
Legend has it that Martin Brundle, of F1 lore, said the rear suspension on the 190E was world-class.
Thanks for sharing the BTS cluster story.
He looks 25 yrs old in this video
I had no idea that's how you acquired that 190E 2.3-16. (insert 90s kid looking from computer to camera with approving thumbs up)
I love looking at the specs sheet where it lists "current value" because now you need to take that number and multiply by 4
M3 Evo II is something else
Motor Trend: You act like your better than me.
Jason Cammisa: I am better than you.
Back when discount Sandler looked like discount Ali-G
I've been waiting for this ever since you started uploading stuff.
Oh my, now I see where the Adam Sandler comparisons came from. I missed this video the first time around. Great video again (as usual)
I missed this video its back again.Thank you.
Wow, the days when Adam Sandler had fever gray hairs like his early 20's. Glad to see that today's Jason has much more charisma.
Those was fun... both was unable to follow the Lancia Delta Integrale. They was both slower.
Love your story telling Jason. I a;ways learn something new! THANKS.
Mr. Cammisa I'm born in nice car era, mid 80's and I adore your style of commenting on cars, was watching top gear, fifth gear, car wow, throttle house, etc. but you are on another level of intelligence (Also Scotty Kilmer is fun to watch, but for other reasons). Keep the good job and give special care to cars like 190E and olders.
This is one epic episode (glad it's back on YT)
I once owned a Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 and it was an awesome car. Carfection just published a video about all the M3 and I made this exact comment and now... THIS video gets released. What are the odds of that?
Same
I didn't know Adam Sandler did car reviews
I remember watching this on mtod. Was so angry that I had been lied to my entire life about how amazingly epic the original M3 was. Which, years later is somewhat irrelevant because I still want one…
To be fair it was a great car , it was lightweight NA , looked cool, after E30 ,BMWs M3s got bigger
Oh my God! i taught that these early films will be deleted from youtube for ever, but they're coming back.
Waiting for the VW Golf R vs Ford Focus RS film which is one of the best car films ever made!
This is like a one-man Top Gear: I love it.
I like how you just remade this video but newer, better and longer
Finnaly this video! Thanks man.
Great article about two amazing cars, you can't beat a limited edition performance car made to win in competition by a large manufacturer. I'm a huge fan of Group A and B, Homologation and the inevitable Evolution models, evocative and passionate ends of the motorsport spectrum. Due to my age, I've been very lucky to have witnessed many of these cars in full factory spec raced and rallied in anger, a true spectacle, even got to sit in some back in the day when a service area or a paddock was far less corporate with a more friendlier and open environment. Jason, what makes you're pieces just that bit better than most on these mythical categories is your superb attention to detail and facts, congrats.
p.s. I think you're in Cali, if so, maybe pop along to Tim Allens lock up, I hear he has an RS200.
I missed late 1980s...muscle sedan cars like BMW 318 M3, Mercedes 190E 2.3, Ford Sierra cosworth, Audi A4 quattro and some others.
This is my favourite episode ❤️🔥
Amazing review❤ Really liked how he just buys the 190 on the spot :) Legend move!! both are exactly as Jason described. Had E30 325i for many years, also an easy DIY car + crazy fun to drive, true drivers car. And few month ago finally got the 190 as I always admired it too - brought home 2.3 Azzurro avantgarde Sportline model, 1 of only 950 made in total, and I daily this engineering masterpiece as it’s more “car” than the E30. When was this video made? Nice prices at that time 😮
Who is here cause of Sreten . Thanks to him now we know jason
5:03 was a close call with the oncoming traffic.
I was fortunate enough to get to drive a 190e 2.3-16 with the 5 speed dogleg box. I must admit, it was a fantastic drive and the car is surprisingly quick and obviously quite nimble. If I had more space I would certainly have been looking to pick one up.
I agree, I’m saving money for a good condition. I drove in one cosworth engine and the ride of that car for the 190.I love the s14 engines, high rev engine, and a inline 4.
always easily forgotten in teh Mercedes 190 E 2.3 16V and BME e30 M2 story is the Ford Sierra Cosworth. This also was a very good car with a very good story. The Sierra Cosworth was the M3's biggest contender on the rally stages.
So.. THIS is when you bought your 190e, nice origin story
That’s the closest JC has looked like Sandler’s stunt double, wow
Jason has been making great videos forever
This was an epic story and I nearly bought an M3 because (in spite of?) it, having just sold my Valiant R/T Charger (Look it up - an Aussie muscle story that aches for a Cammisa perspective (ie. no money, old truck engine made good (semi hemi) and racing development done in cut and shut mule utes (that still exist)). I'm still kicking myself that I didn't by the E30 M3 (bought a MINT E30 manual 318i as a daily instead), but hindsight is a wonderful thing, it only allows us to kick ourselves in the ass...
We are still waiting on a revisit on the E39 M5 Jason 😊
Oof I've been waiting for this one!
Yes head 2 head episodes!!!!! More please!
Reminds me a lot of the M3 icons episode
When are you going to throw a 3dr Sierra cosworth into the mix?
My favorite part is that formula one block was an m10, the tractor 4 cylinder that went in every 320 e21. The best BMW is a e21 320 with an e30 M3 head ITBs and the full alpina trim. E30 M3 performance with a frankly more fun live axle for street driving, better interior and some glorious Bauhaus touches on the exterior.
When jason preferred the 190E over the m3, oh! how happy i was. Watching this again brings back the same feelings.
Come on, Cammisa. More videos.
I had a US 16V for ten years (and 2 engine failures). Fabulous driving car but now have something like it but maybe better: a Euro Mercedes 300CE-24 Sportline mit 5-speed Getrag, like your old 300SL. The steering, handling etc. evokes the 16V.
i came down here to complain that AMG's have sports suspension and it is not intended for comfort, but he seems like a pretty good growing youtube channel.
2:00 e30 estimated value $15.000-$30.000. How the times have changed...
I thought Adam Sandler was reviewing cars until I seen Jason Cammisa in the title
I remember this when it premiered as I also own a UK spec 2.3-16. I did wonder why you used an EVO M3 ha ha
I hope that you upload ALL of your old videos! =)
Love seeing this. Love the cars. Cammisa is the best
1:56 , the guy with no shirt. Male nipple decorations a thing back then ? 🤣🤣 I could be watching this all day. Thank you so much for your work.
M539 brought me here....
Good to see adam sandler doing car reviews
My mom had a 190E, but with the standard engine, and it was heavy and really really slow. I like the BMW better because it is sportier with just two doors.
$30,000 for an e30 m3? Those were the days
This has been recommended to me again, so I guess I'll rewatch it. This was when Jason was skinny and annoying when he's with Jonny Liberman. Liberman would always push Camissa into an argument which got tiring. On his own, he's brilliant.
Congratulations for new car !😼
I guess the Hair Club for Men really does work!
the E30 M3 has nothing to prove it's track record speaks for itself
The name, _190E 2.3 16_ is about as characterless as 11 characters and spaces could be.
That it's attached to a product as significant to the industry as it was, and to a car as characterful, engaging, and _objectively good_ as few small medium cars have ever been, is all the more surprising.
Give him a few grays and you wouldn't be able to tell him and his father apart 😂
Can't wait to see how you get on with Sreten's E30 on tour. Is there going to be a vid ?
I think the best way to choose which one of the two is better is, probably, to take both of them! 😂
Nice content Jase. Love the channel!
I think the greatest miss of the 2.3-16 is that the only color options were: Camry Beige and Shows All Dirt Black. At least the E30 M3 had a proper color palette to choose from.
Wasn't black. It was blue-black, or, in German, blau-schwarz. Gorgeous color. Owned an '86 and an '87.
Man, Adam Sandler sure knew his cars when he was young!
Somebody is losing weight :)) Keep it up!
God Jason looks young in this video
The e30 m3 is a very cool car, but the 190e evo 2 with the full aero and the wing is pretty much objective perfection for a car like that, although i do like the "grandpas old car stealth weapon" thing the 190e in the video has going on.
Yea noo...... the e30 M3 is a way more special of a car and its the reason why it was the poster boy of DTM and group A. it also has a evo 2 stage. But the car was absolutely designed to be a race car first while being a great road car which was really the first for a touring car. Kinda like the stratos was for rally. Then the 190e was just a road car. The e30 M3 is the most race successful touring car and homologation car of all time. Most race successful race car along with the 911 and its 935 variants..... won over 1,400 races in 1500 days so that's a race win everyday for 4 years..... Klaus Ludwig, who was a 190e driver stated the e30 M3 was the better car in the documentary "Adrenaline , A BMW Touring Car Story"...... one of the most balanced cars of all time and greatest drivers car. Many dubb it the "gods chariot. GORDAN Murray the creator of the F1, claims the lotus Elan is the greatest drivers car of all time but he also claims the e30 M3 is a close second or third.
i have one euro spec 78km 2.3 16v, awesome car !!
M4 vs Camaro SS, Z06 vs Viper ACR please uploud.
Slightly off topic, but any idea what's the song around 2:52? Sounds really cool.