It's just converting the work into other work that you like more. In this case he could just suck it up and write them out, or he could make a machine to do, that he not only is much more suited too, but also enjoys it's and allows him to hone his craft.
just a tip when using neural networks. In the video, I noticed after every bug you fixed, the editing at least made it look like you spent ~50 hours training the RNN again. Usually, you can use smaller datasets to train the networks and see if the output is slightly acceptable before spending the 2 days training the network with the full dataset.
I also notice he didn't plot his training loss / validation loss. It's very important to be able to know if both are decreasing, otherwise you might just be overfitting to noise or something. 😆
Ok, one major tip: natural hand writing is in fact a 3D action not just 2D, meaning that the writer exerts higher and lower pressure vertical to the paper surface as they write, which results in the pen line becoming thinner and thicker at different sections of a letter! Next try to build the Y-axis movement into that robot!!
Probably not the most notable thing, especially if you consider if they were actually sent out you’d only see 1 and would have no comparison for the pen pressure, And repetition is much more noticeable to the brain
You would be able to see lots of different pressures between each letter. When handwriting, you have to lift up your hand for each letter so you wouldn't be able to use the same pressure on every one
@Electric999999 he also handed the robot a pen haha. Seriously though he did engineer the trays to hold the cards, the system for picking them up and dropping them, the system for holding the cards for the writing bot and integrated those 2 robots together with the code etc. so it's not quite as easy but yeah. Giving up and using an existing code base is actually very typical of engineers in other jobs too lol.
Trained as a mechanical engineer 40 years ago - despite afterwards working in another field your videos resonate with the engineer's heart that still beats within. Thank you!
I have to say, one of the most helpful parts of your video was when you gave up and used code off the internet. It's nice to see others realize that some other people just do things better sometimes and you don't have to re-invent the wheel every single project. Buying a plotter, borrowing code. This is how things move forward. Good luck in your new shop!
Anyone have tips on how to do this more? I often feel like I'm spending just as much time figuring out how to integrate or implement their code into mine. I suppose that's just down to the quality of the documentation?
yeah, I started writing a custom library for playing audio files in vanilla JS, and then I thought "wtf am I doing - just find an open source one". And lo and behold, there are like 5 of them.
@EmersonPeters Be sure of what you need. Once you know what goes in and what goes out you can use other works as a black box. GPT can also help with code integration nowadays.
The shot @9:37 has me holding my sides. A $35k robot arm, TWO computers, a big power cabinet, an air compressor, a shop-vac... "But that would be over-engineered!" 😆
yeah but theres a difference between necessary engineering thats complicated and over-engineering something even if you can do something simpler. in his case, he needs the robot arm and computers and air compressor and shop vac. but what he doesnt need is a motorized stack of cards, so he replaces it with a simple spring
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will rule your life and you will call it Fate" ~ Carl Jung
I've worked on a ton of machine learning projects over the years and seeing him go through the same process of training a model for a stupid amount of hours, having it not work and then finding one small mistake in the code each time is insanely relatable
i feel you haha, I’m very new to machine learning and have to create a model for my uni work and not being able to find the bugs is driving me insane lol
@fincottle5534 yea, with ordinary programming you can usually tell almost immediately when something is wrong, but in machine learning you cant really tell until you've given the algorithm enough time to learn
You know, this comment is good, and yet it reads like one of those machine learning generated comments. Like the "Justin Y bot" by CodeParade. I don't know what this says about our society, or anything, but i bet it does say something.
4.21 million subscribers definitely help. Hell, people with 75k subscribers are quitting their jobs and doing RUclips full time. Shane has it made and we’re all here for it!
Ya he has the humor of Linus Tech Tips where Linus is doing the experiments on such things such as SSD speed and will do experiments that he doesn't care about the result so that the answer is the same across all the setpieces.
Every time Shane turns off the lights for the robots to work overnight, I think to myself, "But how can they see what they're doing?" 😂 Those googly eyes really do the trick!!
@travel-y61ou bots are pretty sly but it would probably work better on another channel, not one where most viewers are college educated engineers. Wait what am i doing, giving bots advice?
I love the field of Computer Science. Spending 4 months to create something to do a 3 hour task for me just gives such a huge feeling of accomplishment.
You wife has the greatest sense of humor ever. I love when you bring her along for the adventure in videos. Y'all are seriously the most perfect match of personalities of all time.
@evanroberts2771 and you got opinions of a hater , cmon Bruh she’s obviously speaking monotone which is why it’s funny She’s spoken regular before and she sounds like an average woman lol
21:02 surely the pen writing machine is consistent in Z axis pressure? This would likely be a give away too… but does it work in 3D space? Could you make it dynamically adjust pen pressure randomly?
I think what might be more noticeable than the pressure is the angle of the pen. You can tell the difference between left and right handed writing if you know what you’re looking for
@dariusftw3378 At school I had absolutely horrible handwriting when I was joining each letter up so I started to write individually and am now trying to unlearn 10 years of writing that way because it looks kinda unprofessional.
Is anyone really going to talk about how the wife managed to correctly decipher every fake card despite not being completely obvious and apart manage to see the ploptwist of the last 4 letters? If she is not a detective then she is not in the right job
I program similar robots for CNC production. One that that made me curious was to the paper getting picked up problem. He built those platforms with the springs which is near but those robots have the ability to compensate for those sorts of things. We have pallets that we place parts on and we can teach the first point on the pallet and the robot auto compensates and grabs each part and moves up and down the pallets automatically.
@specialsause949 Same here, programming for cnc tending. The function I used was called servo float or soft servo. And the end effector would stop with a programmed force.
I think that 2 possible differences from the normal handwriting are pressure variations and speed variations these 2 can be especially seen with fountain pens. In this case even the angle at which the pen is held changes as the word progresses and this changes line geometry
@EngineerMikeF yeah, it could be even implemented as controlling the pen force instead of controlling pen height, made as a weird closed loop system. Or simply move the pen up and down and have it spring loaded, the force of typical spring should be roughly proportional to the amount it was compressed / extended
Maybe the pen could be connected to a spring so as it moved there would be a slight wobble and / or a random offset could be applied each point making up a letter. Would also like to see some deliberate spelling/ writing mistakes to be more human like
I would like to thank you on behalf of all criminals for giving us starting point of forgery and also explaining us how we might get busted so we could fix this before we go live.
I wanted to start a youtube channel where disgruntled industry experts explain how people could hack/cheat/bypass safeguards, if they even exist. It would be called "*IF* I Did It"
It's a cool trap of reverse psychollogy. Yo get so smart and skillful making a machine like this to try to do something illegal, that you end up pursuing a better career in science instead of being a criminal
It is really not difficult to know why people like your work: The experiments, the projects, the failures, the tips, the video and sound quality, and a lot of other reasons, makes them likeable. New sub here.
I kept all my school documents. And that is a lot of hand writing. I wanted to scan it all, and use OCR with a temporal variable. That way I can see handwriting improve over time. And also train a model to write whole words, not just single letters. But scanning two full boxes of documents takes over a week. And I don't have any scanner. I feel like a vector sequence model instead of a pixel model would generalize better. Thanks for sharing your work! You are experiencing the machine learning researcher: "press the run all button!"
I spent the last 8 or so months scanning thousands of documents, and I have gotten fast enough to be able to scan a box in a day, maybe two if it’s a really annoying set of documents that aren’t standard paper size.
Ehh. If you can transform your documents into loose sheets you can scan them considerably faster using batch scanners(like page a second fast). There are usually scanners with that feature in semi-big office spaces.
Omg, your segment on debugging machine learning programs was so depressingly accurate. Training something for hours, checking the predictions, and getting complete nonsense. Just to learn that you did something dumb somewhere (like maybe you used a '-' instead of a '+' somewhere). Then train again, and repeat until either you get it working, or you give up on life. Though of note: it is important to monitor NN training. Looking at loss, accuracy, and any other metric while you are training. Also training on smaller datasets first to iron out bugs so that you don't waste as much time.
Awesome that you independently came up with the paper suction mechanism! Similar designs have also been used in industrial printing machines for decades. They're very nice.
I feel like, in this case, a forensic handwriting expert being able to make a profile for your handwriting bot is a feature, not a bug. After all, you're *not* trying to make 20,000 unique sets of handwriting, you are trying to make *one* set of handwriting that is consistent across 20,000 use instances. And if he sees enough shared characteristics between the different pieces of writing to work out a profile, that means they are identifiable as having been written by the same person (or, I guess, robot). Which means that you succeeded in creating a unique and consistent handwriting style
2 things got me to stop collecting sports cards with autographs. 1 was how depressing it looked having an athlete at a table with 1000 cards on their coffee table awaiting autographs. The 2nd was learning about autopen and finding out celebrities and prominent figures have been using the concept for 100 years.
Auto-pen be auto-penning for sure. I understand that people have to sell what others want but I'm with you... autographs without some personalization or story are just kinda lame (to me).
So I love the realness of this video. As a fellow scientist I understand when you say “I have no idea what I’m doing” and it’s so true. None of us do we all rely so much on each other to solve our problems and the past achievements of others to move forward. That being said pls upload more even if it’s just updates about current projects or anything else you find interesting.
@tillthiemann6448 Of course it’s going to feel that way. You wouldn’t learn much if you just kept repeating stuff you knew. Math degrees are not earned by repeating “1+1=2” for 50-60 hours a week for four years. Malcolm Gladwell suggests 10,000 hours to master a skill: practice, feedback, learn new stuff just outside your comfort zone.
I agree. For anybody reading this, what he was describing is what you may have heard referred to as "gradient descent". That visualization is probably the cleanest way I've heard it explained.
@nohmers18if that's how you feel about it, then maybe it wasn't for you. I also think kindergarten is shallow and pedantic, but I'm not going to a school just to complain about how they educate 5 year olds.
@nohmers18 that's because it's not for an audience of specialists so obviously to make it accessible to everyone, you will dumb it down and if you don't like it well... I don't think you should expect that of this channel because it's not the main goal to go in depth about the smallest things.
"i knew that she would know, so i did the opposite of that, and thought maybe she would....." wife... stares into space contemplating all her lifes decisions.... absolute chefs kiss perfection.
That's a good field, especially if you're willing to get your hands dirty. As time goes on automation will only increase, and therefore the number of people needed to babysit, clean, repair, and program those machines will increase. Fun fact about new technology: It ain't reliable, and is in constant need of refinement and maintenance.
As someone who is currently struggling through their own first machine learning project from scratch, it was super super validating to watch you struggle through it hahah. And your explanation of machine learning was really good, I will use that to explain when people ask me what I'm doing hahah
Stuff, I know that you're making these videos available to a wider audience by toning down the science, but I would absolutely love it if you made follow up videos where you really got into explaining all of the theory, programing and math going on here. You seem to skip over a lot of integration hell, but I think that's the most interesting part. All the pieces you wouldn't think would go wrong, and how to fix some of them. Sincerely, the next generation of engineers that loves what you're doing
Yeah it would be great if he had a more technical discussion of the coding for people with some training. It would be a huge teaching/learning resource. As it is his videos have a bit of the "look how clever I am" vibe.
You can tell it's heartfelt because he put days into making this robot. (And because, speaking from his heart, he writes that the robot wrote the letters)
I just love the relationship you have with your wife. I know how much time these projects take. You don't give us videos often, but they content is amazing and for her to be a part of your skits and give you the time to do these is nice. I'm sure you both do things together, but its just great knowing she seems to appreciate these and smiles. You can genuinely tell you 2 have a healthy relationship.
I work at a print company, all these designs are super similar to tons of the machines i work with as a folder and booklet maker. The feeder on my Horizon buckle folder has a similar suction cup design to pick up sheets quickly. You did your homework, and built a sweet machine. Props to you brother
I've been following you for a couple years now (since automatic hoop V1) and I'm ashamed I've never commented before. But I genuinely think your projects are the coolest I've ever seen. Every one is completely unique to anything else out there and so far beyond what I would even think is possible. Your explanations, editing and humor are on point. And I don't even mind the indeterminate wait between vids because you always deliver. But I do basically drop everything as soon as I see you've posted. All this fanboying to say, you really are an inspiration in a lot of ways and I hope to see your projects for many more years.
One of my family member is graphologist. She told me that the pressure you put on each letter with your pen is also examined (showing how much emotion you put on some words) So if you're only looking at the 2D-shape of your letters, you're missing something.
The interesting part about that he can implement that into the machine with the suction function. By adding the amount of suction to each specific word or letter at least 50% of the words wouldn't have the same pressure due to the change of suction for each words and since the care isn't rigid there would be tiny (I assume only noticeable under investigation) changes. It's a crazy thing he has built
@bryang2280 Honestly I think you could just have the writing machine itself do it. It already can lift and push down the pen (since that's how it works lol) so I don't see why you couldn't just have it push down when writing certain lines more than others
This was my biggest “tell” of real vs fake. Hard to copy the random pressures and pen scratches made by pens when handwriting something. Like the little tail left behind when finishing a word and lifting the pen at the same time.
I went looking for that article, just because. Sadly, it does not exist. You can, however, find "this system instantly edits videos to make it look like you're saying something you're not".
Cool to see other people use on shape outside of school. I use it in my highschool engineering class, and i didn’t realize it was something i might actually use
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in type design, we work on a lot of two-letter combinations to fix their spacing and make them flow better with ligatures, for both upright and italic typefaces
I will never get over how hilarious you two are when youre both on screen. You seem just perfect for each other, its like when the deadpan delivery comes from you both the sum is greater than the parts and its 100 times funnier.
12:40 The way you explained a loss function for a neural network architecture is just flawless. Great job mate! That is Josh Starmer level explaining right here.
I had a question about what he said though, when you calculate the slope of the error function, it's dimensionality should be based on the 'number of knobs' in the last layer, so when you move in the direction needed to minimize error, aren't you turning all of those knobs simultaneously (and thus, all the previous knobs roughly simultaneously as well since you propogate that change back through the network?)
I'm so happy you posted!! I miss your videos. In the off chance you see this. I'm a CS student and you've really inspired me to go outside of my normal routine and get into hardware/creative projects. Thanks so much SMH
As an ATM technician, not only do I not understand what your job even is, but I TOO feel that quote deep in my soul. Kinda cool how quotes can transcend occupation like that.
Man, with the time and effort it takes for you to make a video and thus for us to wait, you could easily make them 2-3 times longer and people will watch, because there's definitely something more to watch.
I love that his intuition of what approach is best and his first attempt at each approach has gotten so finely honed. Several intricate contraptions in a row that worked first try
For whatever it is worth, you and your wife are my favorite couple to ever appear in videos together! It normally feels like such an artificial gimmick when a RUclipsr pulls their spouse into a video, but not with you guys. You have such fantastic chemistry and I really just hope your relationships lasts your entire life!!
Having a duration and pressure programmable VacBlowOff that you can tme independently of the vac port valve gives *the very best* vac cup pick and place IMO.
surprised that pen pressure wasn't a factor mentioned - people write in varied pressures, and that might be a decent key in determining a fake vs authentic writing
Who could ever believe engineer is able to have functional relationship with gorgeous wife who is even more gorgeus after giving life to another big person? This has to be completely fake, right?
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I cant believe you managed to create machine learning code for doctors handwriting on the first try
thats really a world wide thing.
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Comment of the year.
...but he didn't. He used someone else's code.
What I learned from this channel over the years is that in order to do less work you have to do more work than you originally had to.
because it’s only ever less work for future you never present you
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It's just converting the work into other work that you like more. In this case he could just suck it up and write them out, or he could make a machine to do, that he not only is much more suited too, but also enjoys it's and allows him to hone his craft.
Initially
one time investment basically
This video is the embodiment of "we do things not because they are easy, but because we thought they were"
and we make necessary concessions when we realize it was a little bit too not-easy
"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because we thought they were!" - JFK, 2023
@thenightjackal yea but budget doesn't change 😭😂
lmao 🤣
🎶WE DO WHAT WE MUST BECAUSE WE CAN! 🎶
"If this thing had a body, I'd attack it" LMFAO xDDDD
I love the "wife annoyed to be forced to help her husbands weird projects" character she pulls lmao
i feel there is a degree of authenticity when you ask her to do a test to prove she isnt defective
"character" yeah
i have wondered if there is someone with a gun off screen
@whatadude4841yes but it’s not a person. It’s a perfectly calibrated auto rig
@notnotme1715 you two are pretty funny
just a tip when using neural networks. In the video, I noticed after every bug you fixed, the editing at least made it look like you spent ~50 hours training the RNN again. Usually, you can use smaller datasets to train the networks and see if the output is slightly acceptable before spending the 2 days training the network with the full dataset.
Bingo
I also notice he didn't plot his training loss / validation loss. It's very important to be able to know if both are decreasing, otherwise you might just be overfitting to noise or something. 😆
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@fitybux4664 Also in realtime, to see if it is worth waiting another 50 hours
Or, just invest in better/more GPUs
Ok, one major tip: natural hand writing is in fact a 3D action not just 2D, meaning that the writer exerts higher and lower pressure vertical to the paper surface as they write, which results in the pen line becoming thinner and thicker at different sections of a letter! Next try to build the Y-axis movement into that robot!!
Brutal
Or the microscopic human skin flakes and grease we leave on the paper while writing?
Yes I thought the handwriting expert would make this point. Maybe the robot does press more in some places?
I was about to suggest the same haha
Not only the pressure of the pen but angle of the pen too (or rather two angles) and the writing speed.
great example of how engineers (of any type) would rather spend 10 hours automating something than an hour doing it manually.
He's doing it because he can.
engineers do it so that it wont have to be done manually for people around the world!
DUDE YES
@Random_Dude_From_Internet this fr
It's always fun this way
I remember writing a web scraper for 10+ hrs for the data that could have been manually scraped in 10 minutes
I'm surprised pen pressure on the paper wasn't more of a problem. Seems like the robots perfect line darkness would stand out more.
My guess is they actually talked about how good they were, and what we saw was what we were allowed to hear.
I came here to say this, but in my heart I knew it had already been said
Probably not the most notable thing, especially if you consider if they were actually sent out you’d only see 1 and would have no comparison for the pen pressure,
And repetition is much more noticeable to the brain
@BossKnightalso ballpoint pens, especially decent quality ones, tend to have little variation in darkness with pressure.
You would be able to see lots of different pressures between each letter. When handwriting, you have to lift up your hand for each letter so you wouldn't be able to use the same pressure on every one
You know you're an engineer when you spend hundreds of hours designing and building a custom solution to do a simple menial task
In fainress he actually ended up just using someone else's code on someone else's robot. All he did was feed it paper with a second robot.
@Electric999999 he also handed the robot a pen haha. Seriously though he did engineer the trays to hold the cards, the system for picking them up and dropping them, the system for holding the cards for the writing bot and integrated those 2 robots together with the code etc. so it's not quite as easy but yeah.
Giving up and using an existing code base is actually very typical of engineers in other jobs too lol.
@oshgoshbyskoshif you are old enough to go university, give it a shot. You can't be a certified engineer without an engineering degree.
I'm a software developer and I have a job and that job often makes me do tasks that take hundreds of hours only for no one to use it.
He needs a threadripper CPU.
Trained as a mechanical engineer 40 years ago - despite afterwards working in another field your videos resonate with the engineer's heart that still beats within. Thank you!
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So in reality you took a few engineering classes and dropped out from engineering and now you tell everybody a tall tale that is only remotely true.
@thomgizzizplease don't comment on things you're not sure of - especially when you're impolite
15:30 "no"
This whole segment is esoteric comedy gold
I have to say, one of the most helpful parts of your video was when you gave up and used code off the internet. It's nice to see others realize that some other people just do things better sometimes and you don't have to re-invent the wheel every single project. Buying a plotter, borrowing code. This is how things move forward. Good luck in your new shop!
That's how science and engineering works. You use what other people have done in the past to create something new.
Anyone have tips on how to do this more? I often feel like I'm spending just as much time figuring out how to integrate or implement their code into mine. I suppose that's just down to the quality of the documentation?
yeah, I started writing a custom library for playing audio files in vanilla JS, and then I thought "wtf am I doing - just find an open source one". And lo and behold, there are like 5 of them.
@EmersonPeters Be sure of what you need. Once you know what goes in and what goes out you can use other works as a black box. GPT can also help with code integration nowadays.
That is why i share every line of my codes to github... it feels great to see someone uses something you did and turn it into something more useful 😂
The shot @9:37 has me holding my sides. A $35k robot arm, TWO computers, a big power cabinet, an air compressor, a shop-vac... "But that would be over-engineered!" 😆
funny.
Totally missed that, you are definitely correct.
18k arm
yeah but theres a difference between necessary engineering thats complicated and over-engineering something even if you can do something simpler. in his case, he needs the robot arm and computers and air compressor and shop vac. but what he doesnt need is a motorized stack of cards, so he replaces it with a simple spring
20:38 “using THIS technology”. Keyword “This”
“If this thing had a body, I would attack it” spoken like a true coder.
Soo true
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That part made me laugh so hard!
I would be arrested for crimes against humanity if solidworks had a body.
Honestly I think that having a postcard written by a project you made is way cooler than having one hand written
He bought the robot online and copy pasted the code for the program, he didn't do anything for the final product.
@hanswurst666 he made the suction things also combining two things different things to do one thing is harder then it looks
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote:
"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will rule your life and you will call it Fate"
~ Carl Jung
@hanswurst666 agreed on this one
13:33 "This system instantly edits videos to make it look like you know what you are talking about"
Very subtle Shane, very subtle
This man just casually gave the best simplified explanation of how machine learning works
I've worked on a ton of machine learning projects over the years and seeing him go through the same process of training a model for a stupid amount of hours, having it not work and then finding one small mistake in the code each time is insanely relatable
i feel you haha, I’m very new to machine learning and have to create a model for my uni work and not being able to find the bugs is driving me insane lol
That is the basic process of all programming.
@kellymoses8566 with programming you don’t have to wait 3 days to find out if your changes worked?
@fincottle5534 yea, with ordinary programming you can usually tell almost immediately when something is wrong, but in machine learning you cant really tell until you've given the algorithm enough time to learn
@rayenaouadi3190 it depends on the program, theres very few programs with no bugs at all
Thank you Sean Vasquez for all these heartfelt postcards!
When the world needed him the most , he made a forging robot.
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You know, this comment is good, and yet it reads like one of those machine learning generated comments. Like the "Justin Y bot" by CodeParade. I don't know what this says about our society, or anything, but i bet it does say something.
@SianaGearz I must thank my coder on behalf of you to make me as human like as possible
@SianaGearzJustin Y is a bot?
@Literalbladesofgrass the real Justin Y is a real person, but there are fake ones out there.
The "Garbage-O-Meter" analogy is one of the best Machine Learning analogies I have ever heard. Thanks! I will use this.
OMG IT'S THE REAL CLIPPY!!!
@HMT_main STAND WITH CLIPPY!!!!
The amazing thing is that Shane could get a high level job literally anywhere but he'd rather do his own stuff like this. And that makes him awesome
i think it's a little naive to think this guy doesn't have a job
@MrDylanHole a little?
@aonodensetsu I was trying to be nice
4.21 million subscribers definitely help. Hell, people with 75k subscribers are quitting their jobs and doing RUclips full time. Shane has it made and we’re all here for it!
His job is inventing, " He is an inventor with five patents and 13 pending applications. " -wikipedia
I was constantly laughing at him getting bested by his better half, its so fun to see how well she knows him
Ya he has the humor of Linus Tech Tips where Linus is doing the experiments on such things such as SSD speed and will do experiments that he doesn't care about the result so that the answer is the same across all the setpieces.
She's his other half, not the better half.
@humanfirst11 its a well known figure of speech, why are you getting mad on his behalf lmao
@capri_sunnn7935I hooked up with her while he was out of town a couple years ago😂😂
Every time Shane turns off the lights for the robots to work overnight, I think to myself, "But how can they see what they're doing?" 😂 Those googly eyes really do the trick!!
IR cameras ftw
@travel-y61 You are absolutely correct. I laughed till my sides hurt. Then Subbed!
@travel-y61ou bots are pretty sly but it would probably work better on another channel, not one where most viewers are college educated engineers. Wait what am i doing, giving bots advice?
@JaredConnell I'm not 😕
2:18 'Shipping to Mr. Stuff...' LOL
I love the field of Computer Science.
Spending 4 months to create something to do a 3 hour task for me just gives such a huge feeling of accomplishment.
but girls hated computer science tho
Sarcasm always makes me smile. Thanks for the smile!
@jake9854 who tf brought up gender
I do the same thing! My wife calls it over-engineered procastinating, but it makes me so happy when it works.
@MariusViken That's exactly it lmao
You wife has the greatest sense of humor ever. I love when you bring her along for the adventure in videos. Y'all are seriously the most perfect match of personalities of all time.
Yeah you can tell when a smile slips through that it’s played up which makes it all the better IMO lol
But she has the voice of a man.... and looks like his sister.
@evanroberts2771 shes perfect
@evanroberts2771 and you got opinions of a hater , cmon Bruh she’s obviously speaking monotone which is why it’s funny
She’s spoken regular before and she sounds like an average woman lol
Amen, she's just brilliant in these videos, and it's so sweet seeing how obviously good their relationship is.
21:02 surely the pen writing machine is consistent in Z axis pressure? This would likely be a give away too… but does it work in 3D space? Could you make it dynamically adjust pen pressure randomly?
I think what might be more noticeable than the pressure is the angle of the pen. You can tell the difference between left and right handed writing if you know what you’re looking for
I love the chemistry between him and his wife. They have the same sense of humor and banter so well. Ugh.
I predict a divorce eventually based on her sarcasm.
@007nadineL😭😭😭
@007nadineLur weird
They look like siblings
@bradysballsack 😭😭😭
9:30 the subtle pan out to “that would be over engineered” reminding us of the steps undergone to solve this ‘problem’ is a great punchline.
You should send these to "handwriting experts" who think they can get insights into a persons personality or backstory from their handwritting.
You'd want to ridicule them?
Anyone writing each letter individually and not joining them up is sure to be a psychopath
@dariusftw3378 Lol I am the type of person to handwrite everything IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 must take you forever to get anything done lol
@dariusftw3378 At school I had absolutely horrible handwriting when I was joining each letter up so I started to write individually and am now trying to unlearn 10 years of writing that way because it looks kinda unprofessional.
8:07 FIRMLY GRASP IT!!!
I love hearing a SpongeBob reference from over 20 years ago out in the wild
I love the stuff you make here. "If you're woundering if this is more work than just writing out the cards.... we don't talk about that around here".
I love how nonplussed she is every time she joins the video, she's fantastic 😂
eh
you should see how nonplussed she is when he drops his drawers
Nerds 😂😂😂
@nnamdiphilip3011 The true nerds are people like me going THAT'S NOT WHAT NONPLUSSED MEANS
why tho??
Is anyone really going to talk about how the wife managed to correctly decipher every fake card despite not being completely obvious and apart manage to see the ploptwist of the last 4 letters? If she is not a detective then she is not in the right job
Or what about how much Meth she has been smoking.
Simp. Anyone with half a brain could tell the forgeries.
Glad I wasn’t the only one that had that on their mind. She definitely wife goals
@Zetta_Z.971 Guess you don't know what acting is.
the wife is a robot he built
The animation with the handwriting and the knobs is the best way I have seen someone explain how neutral networks grow and learn
I'll likely never get into robotics, but this man's passion is nothing short of inspirational. Cheers to doing what you love Shane!
I program similar robots for CNC production. One that that made me curious was to the paper getting picked up problem. He built those platforms with the springs which is near but those robots have the ability to compensate for those sorts of things.
We have pallets that we place parts on and we can teach the first point on the pallet and the robot auto compensates and grabs each part and moves up and down the pallets automatically.
@specialsause949 Same here, programming for cnc tending. The function I used was called servo float or soft servo. And the end effector would stop with a programmed force.
I think that 2 possible differences from the normal handwriting are pressure variations and speed variations these 2 can be especially seen with fountain pens. In this case even the angle at which the pen is held changes as the word progresses and this changes line geometry
I had the same thoughts
Ditto, the pen needs variability & pressure feedback
@EngineerMikeF yeah, it could be even implemented as controlling the pen force instead of controlling pen height, made as a weird closed loop system. Or simply move the pen up and down and have it spring loaded, the force of typical spring should be roughly proportional to the amount it was compressed / extended
Maybe the pen could be connected to a spring so as it moved there would be a slight wobble and / or a random offset could be applied each point making up a letter. Would also like to see some deliberate spelling/ writing mistakes to be more human like
Ink smear. Near impossible to have a machine replicate this.
The way you show encountering bugs in software development process is hilariously accurate and relatable.
Shouting at the screen: WHYYY!?
23 minutes later: oh! That's why.
ok
@plonkster And then it still doesn't work.
@JMSpider69 somehow works in part even though that shouldn't be possible
recompile and restart, suddenly it's working
me: !??
This dude seems like he has one of the most rewarding Patreons to be a part of that I’ve ever seen
That shot when you said "but that would be over engineered" was just 👌
yeah, could have had a micro switch sense when the sucker was on the card.
I love how the wife is always so unimpressed 🤣🤣🤣 she is honestly one of my favorite parts of this channel.
IMO these videos would not really work nearly as well without her
Some other guys plumage doesn’t impress her.
I was going to say the same, her reactions really make me laugh
His wife is my favorite minor character on RUclips
Clearly defective😂
I love his wife’s facial expressions. It’s just the look of someone who loves a benign lunatic genius.
"Firmly grasp it" 8:05 .. iykyk
Your video and editing skills are coming such a long way.
Nice
Good...
Hai
The production on this vid was way way ahead of what I remember seeing from him. Agree.
Nice👍👍👍👍
I would like to thank you on behalf of all criminals for giving us starting point of forgery and also explaining us how we might get busted so we could fix this before we go live.
They don’t need forgeries any more. They just steal it out of your bank account online.
I wanted to start a youtube channel where disgruntled industry experts explain how people could hack/cheat/bypass safeguards, if they even exist. It would be called "*IF* I Did It"
@Roddy556 I would watch it. Safeguards are anti-consumer.
It's a cool trap of reverse psychollogy. Yo get so smart and skillful making a machine like this to try to do something illegal, that you end up pursuing a better career in science instead of being a criminal
lmao @myslef7636
It is really not difficult to know why people like your work: The experiments, the projects, the failures, the tips, the video and sound quality, and a lot of other reasons, makes them likeable. New sub here.
He even has custom animations!!
GREAT stuff.
I wish he could have a deeper level discussion of the code and other aspects for technical types.
I kept all my school documents. And that is a lot of hand writing. I wanted to scan it all, and use OCR with a temporal variable. That way I can see handwriting improve over time. And also train a model to write whole words, not just single letters.
But scanning two full boxes of documents takes over a week. And I don't have any scanner.
I feel like a vector sequence model instead of a pixel model would generalize better.
Thanks for sharing your work!
You are experiencing the machine learning researcher: "press the run all button!"
You are onto something with the vector graphic. Based on Embroidery machines and sign cutters, I am sure that is the input that the plotter accepts.
I spent the last 8 or so months scanning thousands of documents, and I have gotten fast enough to be able to scan a box in a day, maybe two if it’s a really annoying set of documents that aren’t standard paper size.
Ehh. If you can transform your documents into loose sheets you can scan them considerably faster using batch scanners(like page a second fast). There are usually scanners with that feature in semi-big office spaces.
I was heartbroken to see the mural of your wife covered up, it was absolutely beautiful. This shop definitely needs another creative tribute.
Where did you see this.
yes
@nuravgupta8226 2:46
FINALLY. So glad to see another vid from you! You’re the most committed creator on this platform and I love your story telling / humor.
Bro 21 mins ago?
hey jake
Meme daddy???
let me get a shout out
@CorruptOcean why
Omg, your segment on debugging machine learning programs was so depressingly accurate. Training something for hours, checking the predictions, and getting complete nonsense. Just to learn that you did something dumb somewhere (like maybe you used a '-' instead of a '+' somewhere). Then train again, and repeat until either you get it working, or you give up on life.
Though of note: it is important to monitor NN training. Looking at loss, accuracy, and any other metric while you are training. Also training on smaller datasets first to iron out bugs so that you don't waste as much time.
Awesome that you independently came up with the paper suction mechanism! Similar designs have also been used in industrial printing machines for decades. They're very nice.
I feel like, in this case, a forensic handwriting expert being able to make a profile for your handwriting bot is a feature, not a bug. After all, you're *not* trying to make 20,000 unique sets of handwriting, you are trying to make *one* set of handwriting that is consistent across 20,000 use instances. And if he sees enough shared characteristics between the different pieces of writing to work out a profile, that means they are identifiable as having been written by the same person (or, I guess, robot). Which means that you succeeded in creating a unique and consistent handwriting style
2 things got me to stop collecting sports cards with autographs. 1 was how depressing it looked having an athlete at a table with 1000 cards on their coffee table awaiting autographs. The 2nd was learning about autopen and finding out celebrities and prominent figures have been using the concept for 100 years.
Longer than that. Thomas Jefferson made extensive use of an early version during his presidency.
@allangibson8494 dang it, totally meant to have a + after 100 🤦♀️
Repent and believe in Jesus Christ oh nice, an especially culty verse this time
Auto-pen be auto-penning for sure.
I understand that people have to sell what others want but I'm with you... autographs without some personalization or story are just kinda lame (to me).
15:04 "If this thing had a body, I would attack it"
2025 here
You accidentally made a very relevant video
So I love the realness of this video. As a fellow scientist I understand when you say “I have no idea what I’m doing” and it’s so true. None of us do we all rely so much on each other to solve our problems and the past achievements of others to move forward. That being said pls upload more even if it’s just updates about current projects or anything else you find interesting.
That is normal? I'm currently doing my bachelors degree and feel like that half of the time.
He's not scientist He's engineer better than a scientist
@tillthiemann6448 Of course it’s going to feel that way. You wouldn’t learn much if you just kept repeating stuff you knew. Math degrees are not earned by repeating “1+1=2” for 50-60 hours a week for four years.
Malcolm Gladwell suggests 10,000 hours to master a skill: practice, feedback, learn new stuff just outside your comfort zone.
I love how he simplified the basic working of neural networks at 12:00
I agree. For anybody reading this, what he was describing is what you may have heard referred to as "gradient descent". That visualization is probably the cleanest way I've heard it explained.
I feel that his simplification of the neural network was shallow and pedantic.
@nohmers18 you either don’t know what the word “pedantic” means or you’re the least self-aware person in the world lmao
@nohmers18if that's how you feel about it, then maybe it wasn't for you. I also think kindergarten is shallow and pedantic, but I'm not going to a school just to complain about how they educate 5 year olds.
@nohmers18 that's because it's not for an audience of specialists so obviously to make it accessible to everyone, you will dumb it down and if you don't like it well... I don't think you should expect that of this channel because it's not the main goal to go in depth about the smallest things.
Lets give your wife an award, shes so great on camera an know just how to come at you so that we smile endlessly
She's a cracking addition to the video, fr.
"i knew that she would know, so i did the opposite of that, and thought maybe she would....."
wife... stares into space contemplating all her lifes decisions....
absolute chefs kiss perfection.
That's how wives work
It makes me actually want a wife
Dude she's so smart
Amazing how you just explained the ideas of machine learning in the middle minute
I started a robotics degree because of you, thanks for changing my life for the better!
Person-zy6xx literally noone asked for your pathetic opinion
That's a good field, especially if you're willing to get your hands dirty. As time goes on automation will only increase, and therefore the number of people needed to babysit, clean, repair, and program those machines will increase.
Fun fact about new technology: It ain't reliable, and is in constant need of refinement and maintenance.
Person what
That makes 2 of us😅
I started mechanical/electrical engineering because of people like this RUclipsr too! Fuck yea!!
As someone who is currently struggling through their own first machine learning project from scratch, it was super super validating to watch you struggle through it hahah. And your explanation of machine learning was really good, I will use that to explain when people ask me what I'm doing hahah
he actually explained machine learning in a way that even someone like me could understand it
@PFnove it isn’t that hard to understand tho
@Bigleyp well someone here clearly thinks they’re Stephen Einstein
YES ME TOO!!! I have written an ml alogirthm from scratch in python for the minst database but i keep having problems. What are you wroking on?
@Tempi_ wtf thats not his name. it's alberto rammstein.
The third iteration was actually super exciting because there were letters! That means improvement!
The predictor sounds a lot like LLMs
Stuff, I know that you're making these videos available to a wider audience by toning down the science, but I would absolutely love it if you made follow up videos where you really got into explaining all of the theory, programing and math going on here. You seem to skip over a lot of integration hell, but I think that's the most interesting part. All the pieces you wouldn't think would go wrong, and how to fix some of them.
Sincerely, the next generation of engineers that loves what you're doing
I hope he reads this comment
Yeah it would be great if he had a more technical discussion of the coding for people with some training. It would be a huge teaching/learning resource. As it is his videos have a bit of the "look how clever I am" vibe.
@beestingza I'd say its more just him having fun with nerd stuff, which is pretty cool
@frandurrieu6477 It is cool, but after you've seen a couple of his videos they start to blend together.
This guy is the epitome of answering questions nobody asked but wished they did
Facts lol
This would’ve been so useful in elementary school for me with those notice of low scores slips I got
17:40 it’s honestly wholesome how well your wife knows you! 😂
You can tell it's heartfelt because he put days into making this robot. (And because, speaking from his heart, he writes that the robot wrote the letters)
I just love the relationship you have with your wife. I know how much time these projects take. You don't give us videos often, but they content is amazing and for her to be a part of your skits and give you the time to do these is nice. I'm sure you both do things together, but its just great knowing she seems to appreciate these and smiles. You can genuinely tell you 2 have a healthy relationship.
Lowkey seems like he causes her a lot of self esteem issues
@Keenanleg you're delusional
@Keenanleg I VERY much doubt that. Not in the slightest.
Actually how, Keenan?
@Keenanleg - you misinterpret their dry humor - I think they're secretly British.
I work at a print company, all these designs are super similar to tons of the machines i work with as a folder and booklet maker. The feeder on my Horizon buckle folder has a similar suction cup design to pick up sheets quickly. You did your homework, and built a sweet machine. Props to you brother
The fact that she figured out it was all fakes is poetic almost, machine learning vs gut feel lmao
I've been following you for a couple years now (since automatic hoop V1) and I'm ashamed I've never commented before. But I genuinely think your projects are the coolest I've ever seen. Every one is completely unique to anything else out there and so far beyond what I would even think is possible. Your explanations, editing and humor are on point. And I don't even mind the indeterminate wait between vids because you always deliver. But I do basically drop everything as soon as I see you've posted. All this fanboying to say, you really are an inspiration in a lot of ways and I hope to see your projects for many more years.
Hey! Glad to see you here!
Dang, this is exactly how I feel about your videos 😂
How awesome would a collab be! Food for thought
One of my family member is graphologist. She told me that the pressure you put on each letter with your pen is also examined (showing how much emotion you put on some words)
So if you're only looking at the 2D-shape of your letters, you're missing something.
Oh, I literally just mentioned the same thing before scrolling. 1:11 if you pause and full screen it gives a perfect example of what you are saying.
This definitely could be sorted with a bit of pressure from an actuator on the pen
The interesting part about that he can implement that into the machine with the suction function. By adding the amount of suction to each specific word or letter at least 50% of the words wouldn't have the same pressure due to the change of suction for each words and since the care isn't rigid there would be tiny (I assume only noticeable under investigation) changes. It's a crazy thing he has built
@bryang2280 Honestly I think you could just have the writing machine itself do it. It already can lift and push down the pen (since that's how it works lol) so I don't see why you couldn't just have it push down when writing certain lines more than others
This was my biggest “tell” of real vs fake. Hard to copy the random pressures and pen scratches made by pens when handwriting something. Like the little tail left behind when finishing a word and lifting the pen at the same time.
That TechCrunch article at 13:20 had me dying. Beautifully done. Nice work overall, and what a cool project! Thanks for sharing!
I love those details too !
I went looking for that article, just because. Sadly, it does not exist. You can, however, find "this system instantly edits videos to make it look like you're saying something you're not".
Amazing project, as always! Its amazing to learn how to solve some mechanical and programmatical problems!
Honestly this makes the notes even more charming. Knowing the story behind the cards makes them that much cooler
at 17:35 you can see gears turning in his head lmao
Cool to see other people use on shape outside of school. I use it in my highschool engineering class, and i didn’t realize it was something i might actually use
"If I'm gonna commit fraud we're doing it properly" 😂😂😂 one of the funniest things I've ever heard 😂
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Love your work bro 👏👏👏👏
How was this comment made before the video?
you are awesome hope u have a great and relaxing weekend with your family
@RanDix he had the video uploaded and set to private beforehand
Been waiting for his videos
“Building stuff of dubious utility” is the best tag line ever. So happy to see you back!
Absolutely!!!
in type design, we work on a lot of two-letter combinations to fix their spacing and make them flow better with ligatures, for both upright and italic typefaces
I will never get over how hilarious you two are when youre both on screen. You seem just perfect for each other, its like when the deadpan delivery comes from you both the sum is greater than the parts and its 100 times funnier.
They’re 10000% soul mates the way their chemistry is
12:40 The way you explained a loss function for a neural network architecture is just flawless. Great job mate! That is Josh Starmer level explaining right here.
From now on I will always call the loss "garbageosity"!
I like the little camera bit in 13:25 that was left in the final edit
I had a question about what he said though, when you calculate the slope of the error function, it's dimensionality should be based on the 'number of knobs' in the last layer, so when you move in the direction needed to minimize error, aren't you turning all of those knobs simultaneously (and thus, all the previous knobs roughly simultaneously as well since you propogate that change back through the network?)
I'm so happy you posted!! I miss your videos. In the off chance you see this. I'm a CS student and you've really inspired me to go outside of my normal routine and get into hardware/creative projects. Thanks so much SMH
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Wow. I somehow never saw that before now. For some reason, I know he purposely named his channel with the abbreviation "smh" in mind
You are a superb creater.. These creaters deserve a different youtube reward that trivia creaters should never receive
"The main problem here is me. I don't really know what I'm doing." As an analytical chemist that does method development, I feel this deep in my soul.
As an ATM technician, not only do I not understand what your job even is, but I TOO feel that quote deep in my soul. Kinda cool how quotes can transcend occupation like that.
6:40 "Am I the monkey?" Bro! She set you up and you missed your opportunity!
"No, Babe; you're the moon!"
Top monitor at 13:25 is great and it’s under appreciated in these comments
Lol i love ur top screen at 13:21
Man, with the time and effort it takes for you to make a video and thus for us to wait, you could easily make them 2-3 times longer and people will watch, because there's definitely something more to watch.
I love that his intuition of what approach is best and his first attempt at each approach has gotten so finely honed. Several intricate contraptions in a row that worked first try
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For whatever it is worth, you and your wife are my favorite couple to ever appear in videos together! It normally feels like such an artificial gimmick when a RUclipsr pulls their spouse into a video, but not with you guys. You have such fantastic chemistry and I really just hope your relationships lasts your entire life!!
@wesleycopeland3857 Yeah she seems like she might be a depressive but you never know. Some people are just naturally subdued.
Having a duration and pressure programmable VacBlowOff that you can tme independently of the vac port valve gives *the very best* vac cup pick and place IMO.
surprised that pen pressure wasn't a factor mentioned - people write in varied pressures, and that might be a decent key in determining a fake vs authentic writing
I love that you always show your wife laughing so we know it's just a skit and she's not actually emotionless 😂
what makes you think its not a wife robot doing the smiling scenes ?
@Insane_Kane 😮
Why would you think it's a skit?
Who could ever believe engineer is able to have functional relationship with gorgeous wife who is even more gorgeus after giving life to another big person? This has to be completely fake, right?
@efi945 paid actors, all of them
Unbelievable amount of work, graphics, editing and more. And your wife’s humor and intuition and support for your passion are all amazing.
One of my favourite explanation of machine learning that I’ve ever heard, awesome job