Exciting upgrade. I sit 9’ from 150” diagonal 2.35:1 and absolutely love it! Before I had 103 inch screen and always felt I was looking at the screen while watching a movie. Now I have a completely immersive experience without feeling like it’s too close. Looking forward to seeing your theater transformation.
Thanks as always Michael :) I know your screen is an inspiration - and I enjoyed the immersion factor for a while, but now I just gravitate to the back row which is around 4m away from the screen and it feels better. Plus, now I get two awesome "theater like" setups for the price of, well, two actually, but you know what I mean :)
This is to funny...im also looking at two rows of seating in a cinimea room at bottom of my garden here in the uk...inspired by youthman....and seating by your good self...my wife dont know sooo lol
It's nice to hear another HT enthusiast mention the word COMPROMISE! I made a "home theater for beginners" video years ago and received a ton of comments from "experts" about how everything I did in the room was wrong, and I've always wanted to make a follow up video call "Having a Home Theater is about Compromise!", but I never did... People act like there are set rules that must be followed, but even in a dedicated theater room(like yours and mine) there will always be some sort of compromise that need to be made for financial reasons or because of restrictions in the room... Compromises are just a fact of life for this hobby, but it seems like no one else really talks about that on forums or on YT... Great video man! I look forward to seeing how the "wall of sound" works out for your room!
And this is why I made this channel! Because it’s for home, not a professional cinema, and spending thousands more for slight improvements is not feasible for people in most cases. Technically, I should remove my riser, bring my seats half a meter more forward, move my speakers into the ceiling more, and the list goes on, but that would cost thousands more to do in drywall work, paint, re carpeting, re wiring, and if I just use what I had, I probably wouldn’t even notice the difference! I love my room now as it is, but I just want to fix a few things that bug me. I’ll have to check out your channel. Thanks for commenting.
@@BuildMontage My channel is about gaming, so that home theater video was a 1 time thing back in 2013 because my subscribers kept asking me questions about surround sound after they seen my setup... So I just quickly made a "shaky cam" video where I talked about some things to get them started, and it ended up getting over 100k views! It's definitely not worth checking out now tho! Lol
@@BuildMontage I did do a theater room tour using my bad mobile phone camera if you want to see what my setup is looking like. I do have a new couch and carpet on order, so it will look a lot nicer in about a month. ruclips.net/video/Jm4Pp6vNVh8/видео.html
I’m totally with you on the two rows of seating mate. Since the kids have grown up, the wife and I sit in the back row 100% of the time now because without doubt that’s the optimal spot to watch from. I kinda feel it’s a waste having the front row now just for the rare occasion when we use them with other people 😕. The Krix system looks awesome mate, can’t wait for the updates. Cheers
Thanks Jase! My kids are still little and they barely come in unless it’s going to be an action movie 🍿 and honestly it’s a total waste to have it there and ruin the optimal viewing position. I think your theater at least you made your riser high enough to see over, as that’s the main issue I have is that I need to lower my front chairs to sit on the back row.
Oh boy, that wall of sound looks amazing. Great choice on going with 1 row, I think it will make a world of difference for you. Fantastic video as always man...cheers.
Thanks Barrett, I think so. I was impressed with the Klipsch prosumer version around 2019 when I saw it but completely out of reach due to price/conversion - and when I saw these ones from KRIX, it ticked all the boxes. Plus a single row will be better too!
When we built our house we just had a couch and TV, the speakers were placed based on that. Later we upgraded the space to a dedicated theater, I toyed with the idea of having two rows but it would’ve been way more seating than we needed and too close in front and too far back for 2nd row. We ended up doing a snack ledge behind the row of chairs for optimal viewing angle/distance. Now we just need to move the in ceiling speakers
Really looking forward to the home theatre transformation. Kudos to being open minded and not too ego invested in your original idea. Sometimes you have to come to terms with what YOU want, and not what OTHER people think works best for your setup. I see this too often in the hobby.
For me, it's a learning experience, and what I thought I knew when I started was just the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg - and im still no where near done, but I know enough to be dangerous now, and fixing these issues will go a long way to improving the setup. Thanks :)
Brother the new Upgrade is going to be amazing . I seen few home theater with big screens and very short room, with one row I know is going to be a lot better . Right now i have a 4 seater in my theater and i was thinking to do 2 rows but here is my wife & myself. In the future I going down to just a 3 seats 💺. From front to back in my theater is around 18’ (5.486 meters ) side to side 14’(4.267 meters) x ceiling is 8’ (2.438 meters) 3 seats I think are going to be perfect in every aspect ( the one in the center is going to be mine 😁🔊🎼) ! The speakers you going to get they look amazing . I can’t wait to see the finish product ! Thank you for another great video!
Thanks Eli! I can't wait to dig into this project! And yes I agree with your assessment. When I built the room I though everyone would be in there all the time but alas not... just me 90% of the time :(
Build Montage you welcome Tony . I really know the feeling . Your room is going to be outstanding . I can’t wait to get on mine too . I hope you have a great weekend 🔊🙋🏻♂️!
my room is 18 feet deep and my seating is on the back wall..bc im the only the ever in the room...with a 120 inch screen...cant wait to see your new upgrade progress
Yes, I think so - my room is pretty small and pressurised so the current speakers do extremely well - the sound is BIG - but these new ones and the changes will make it better no doubt!
Great video, buddy! As always, top notch production. That Krix system is gonna be incredible! The b roll footage where your family disappears make me 😞
Thanks brother, I'm lookinig forward to it! Hopefully can start the process next month! And yes, its kinda sad but I was so happy two nights ago, I got the whole family in the theater and watched The Dark Knight - was awesome!
You are going to notice that your sound stage is grander too... I moved by seats back a foot and a half after removing a bar that was between my seats and a support beam in my basement home theater. This allowed me to move my seats back, the audio improvement was a pretty big upgrade, imagining and everything just made it sound more grand!
I really think for all viewing purposes you should stick close to the 15 degrees angle to the top and bottom of the screen panel, this tells you the max size and approriate height mounting. I know many think this is too small for some people but if you use your screen for internet, netflix, gaming and movies you don't want a broken neck and strained eyes. As for moving out from the back wall and having a single row of seating, big thumbs up from me. One row of seats in a 16x16x8 room. I have 7.2.4 speakers in here and there is no such thing as overkill for sound if you treat your room and listen at an appropriate level, but you can't 'turn down' your screen size you you put a massive screen up close.
For me the back row is perfect for my 120" screen. I love the look of cinemascope but I watch mixed content, plus I dont like the idea of the menu system being forced to a narrow vertical height - i like looking at it on the whole screen, so for me, this next round of upgrades are going to work really well I think!
That's awesome dude. Do a full detailed review of the Krix wall of sound as I can't find any on RUclips. I know they are huge in Australia, but not so in North America. I Personally would go with the Krix MX30, with additional infrasonic subs to handle bass from 30hz down to 5-10Hz since the Krix don't do infrasonic bass.
Hey Rock Steady, you’ve got a good point. With Krix systems, we tend to focus on very high output with ultra low distortion, while still having great clean output all the way down to 25Hz. Much below this though (as you mention) an infrasonic sub or two can be a good idea if you'd like to reach 5Hz, as these subs are built specifically for this task and your main subs don’t need to give up output or harmonic distortion in the main LFE range (30-120Hz) to do so.
There is a guide on the creator's page - which I linked in the description and he's also in my Discord server so consider joining up if you like - links are in the description!
Great video once more Tony, the amount of sleep I lost deciding on screen size, seating position and speaker placement was ridiculous. I agree the back row is the winner, front is excess seating only in my house
Thanks Connor! It’s one of those things. Michael from KRIX gave me a great bit of info I should have mentioned in the video and that is to start with your seating position first - not screen size. Your theater is great anyway because your rise is high up. Mine is too low hence the front row is going
In my theater I sit about 8 feet away from a 135 inch screen. In the back seats it's about 14 feet back. I generally don't have issues with my seating distance.
You won't believe it, but this is the second video I didn't get a notification from RUclips! Can't wait till I can get to put my own HT together :) Maybe it will take some time, but I know I will be well educated by you by then 😅😉
I like that you’re doing 6 atmos speakers although the top middles and top rears are pretty close to each other. Will it give you enough seperation? My back wall is evenly close behind the main seating row and I’m considering the same 7.x.6 set up for the same reasons. I’m still in doubt though wether the top middles would be overkill because they’re that close to the top rears. I like your choice of speakers though!
Haha yep it’s close but I’m working with the holes I already have and there is plenty of separation right now I can tell where the sounds are coming from. Currently have all 6 in ceiling but the reads are currently surrounds not Atmos.
6 ceiling speakers seems excessive, especially considering how close the rear 4 are. Also the one row of seats is too close to the back wall. Move your seats and side surrounds forward some. Front stage behind the screen will be a great improvement. Subs behind the screen may be convenient but usually not the best location. Get yourself a calibrated mic and learn REW (free software) and use your Klipsch subs to experiment with locations in your room. That is where you will want to place subs. Since very few subs can produce significant below 20Hz, consider getting some tactile transducers. As far as my speaker layout and suggestion, go to Dolby Atmos website and look at their recommended angles yourself to compare to what is being proposed.
Great job, as usual! Upgrades should be awesome! I’m assuming you’ll be adding an AT screen since the diagram looks like the screen will block the front stage? Perhaps some of those oversized bean-bag chairs might help when you need to expand seating and keep heads from blocking the view. Kids love them and you can stuff them away or easily move them to other locations when not in use in the theater! All this of course with prior approval from the wife (what were you thinking man?)! 🤔🤣
Is there a sound difference between in wall speakers and mounted speakers. Doesn’t the sound in a speaker come out of the cabinet too. Are you sacrificing sound for aesthetics? I ask because I’m in the construction phase and can build either. I would appreciate your feedback
It will depend on the speaker. Both are very viable options depending on the use case. You certainly won't be sacrificing audio fidelity by using a good in wall speaker however they need to be positioned in such a way that they are as on - axis as possible (aim them at the main listening position) which can be challenging for in walls as walls are generally at right angles. I have a mix of both and both are great for my setup. I like the stealthy look so it works for me.
Extremely happy for you tony & super excited for your upgrade!! And thank you very much for helping me with the seating decision. I was thinking about it lately and wasn’t sure if I really need the second row of seating. But hey, thanks to your video and now I’m damm sure that I won’t need it. I’ll be perfect with one row with 3 seats. Thank you! Btw, I’m absolutely loving the discord!
So glad it helped you with making your decision and I hope it all works out perfect for you. I’ve learned so much I wish I knew before hand, I would have saved a lot of cash and heartache but knowledge is knowledge and it’s been a fantastic ride!
Hey new subscriber here just would like to ask im thinking of building my home theater now and was wondering how many hours do you use your projector because dont you want to save bulb life
Great question. I ration usage to around 6-10 hours per week usually. Good idea to have a spare! Thanks for joining and be sure to check the links for our discord server if u like to join in our community!
Hi Tony, very exiting upgrage plan mate! Your videos are awesome. I was considering MX5 for my HT and my media room is exactly same as yours, probably you also have wisdom home. Based on my research I thought MX5 would be more than enough for 3.6m×4.5m room, any specific reason for going with mx10 for your upgrade? Cheers!!
Room looks awesome mate, I have a question what made you decide on screen aspect ratio? I am in the process of building a dedicated theatre room and I am torn what size screen to do I do really enjoy 2.4 But don't want to miss 16.9 contend
Thanks! It’s almost done. I’ve done a few vids since this one and I went with another 16:9 for the same reason. Sure scope screens look great but I also watch tv shows so that’s why I went with 16:9. If u have a really wide room you could go scope screen and it won’t affect u too much as u can go large.
Absolutely! Although once I get through this upgrade, I think I'll be done with speakers... but still to go - more acoustic treatment, star ceiling, additional lighting, changing the screen... so yep, never seems to end :)
Is your screen 16:9? If so would it be worth considering a scope screen and reduce the vertical height so a 16:9 image is smaller and a 2.39:1 is the same width? Do you find 2.39:1 ok from the front row with the reduced image height? (Assuming your screen is 16:9)
Sure that could work however I prefer 16:9 as it’s a light controlled room so I don’t see letterboxing and then I can watch regular content on it. I will be widening the sound stage when I get my MX-10 so it should improve quite a bit and feel like it’s coming from the screen.
@@BuildMontage A scope screen is less about the black bars and more about image height (not width) being the main factor for comfortable viewing distance. Like you said 2 to 3x height. Zoom down the 16:9 imagine height so it is the same as scope.
@@BuildMontage You do but also get a further 25 percent reduction in image height with scope material....ie. the optimal viewing distance is 25 percent closer for scope than 16:9 if you keep the image width constant. Anyway....I love the videos and look forward to seeing your progress. Those speakers will be mean!
Great informative video about seating distance, I know people who built home theatre in their alleys without thinking about optimal viewing distance. Would you be still using A Mart theatre chairs or did you find any other brand, Please comment, as I am looking to buy a 3 seater as well. Thanks. *Krix! Great choice.
Potentially, A Mart seating but I have something else in the works as well. I'll see which one works out first. The AMart seats are great though for the cost and the looks as well.
@@BuildMontage well, some HT types just need to think it out is all I'm saying A bunch of HT chairs I won't need can put a crimp in the budget. Just consider if you really need a movie theater on your house. I live within 2 miles of a huge theater with Imax,Don't need to build one.
The rear speakers are not placed corectly for two rows of seats. Also when you have that many seats you can really benefit from a proper calibration made by a professional calibrated. I found 2.5 m to be the best for my taste with an 120 inch screen but I can literally choose any position I want since my HT has only one seat 😁
If you watched the whole video - not sure if you did? - then the old theater is no more. I have a completely new rebuild with only a single row and im 3m from the screen now.
@@BuildMontage i have absolutely nothing with you, this is the way I'm talking to everyone, even in real Life. If it's too upsetting i will not comment on this channel anymore.
@@georgepopescu1327 that is your choice. I’m just saying it’s easy to comment without understanding why things are the way they are. You can say rear speakers are in the wrong position, but do u know I have water pipes running through that back wall so it’s not possible to position anywhere else? That’s all I’m saying… it’s easy to take one look and start criticising. Likewise you should be able to take my comments as well.
my issue with my soon to be home is the theatre room is only 3.1m by 3.4m :( and i sit 2.7m from my current 55inch tv and westcoast hifi is suggesting my setup be a 5.1.4 but 2 of rear speakers are top speakers. i dont think thats a good idea not having rear speakers but my room is so small i dont know if i can fit rear book shelf speakers in my budget and if i do i will be sitting too close to my new 65ich tv.
Ironically my “rear” speakers were in ceiling for a while until I got the Krix Symmetrix in wall and i changed my in ceiling to Krix Atmospherix A20. Did Westcoast recommend a Krix setup for you? Which speakers? Jump on the Discord server and we can chat more if u like.
At this stage I’m undecided. I could go with the CHIQ one however I’m reviewing a VAVA very soon which is a great contender. But also the Optoma P1 is a choice as well. I’ll be making a decision via a video of course :)
haha, I built a theater in my garage that is 2m x 2m ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ I have Klipsch (height and book shelf) , Polk rear height a Q12 Q Acoustics Sub powered by the awesome Denon AVC-X4700H:) I can't move further away from my speakers if I wanted too:) Sounds great to me. .
AT screens are so addicting they make beautiful flat panels stink audio-wise. Once set up properly the voices literally seem to be coming from the actors on the film. It makes setting up LCRs with flat panels almost seem worthless as the realism totally disappears.
Exciting upgrade. I sit 9’ from 150” diagonal 2.35:1 and absolutely love it! Before I had 103 inch screen and always felt I was looking at the screen while watching a movie. Now I have a completely immersive experience without feeling like it’s too close. Looking forward to seeing your theater transformation.
Thanks as always Michael :) I know your screen is an inspiration - and I enjoyed the immersion factor for a while, but now I just gravitate to the back row which is around 4m away from the screen and it feels better. Plus, now I get two awesome "theater like" setups for the price of, well, two actually, but you know what I mean :)
Big shift 103-150” indeed ✊
That's good to know. I'lve taken alot of ideas from your build.
@@tb2324 that’s interesting. I guess now I’m going to a single row it will be calibrated properly for that mlp
This is to funny...im also looking at two rows of seating in a cinimea room at bottom of my garden here in the uk...inspired by youthman....and seating by your good self...my wife dont know sooo lol
The wife doesn’t know hey? I do now! 🤣🤣🤣
Uh oh!!
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Lol let him live Mim...
It's nice to hear another HT enthusiast mention the word COMPROMISE! I made a "home theater for beginners" video years ago and received a ton of comments from "experts" about how everything I did in the room was wrong, and I've always wanted to make a follow up video call "Having a Home Theater is about Compromise!", but I never did... People act like there are set rules that must be followed, but even in a dedicated theater room(like yours and mine) there will always be some sort of compromise that need to be made for financial reasons or because of restrictions in the room... Compromises are just a fact of life for this hobby, but it seems like no one else really talks about that on forums or on YT... Great video man! I look forward to seeing how the "wall of sound" works out for your room!
And this is why I made this channel! Because it’s for home, not a professional cinema, and spending thousands more for slight improvements is not feasible for people in most cases.
Technically, I should remove my riser, bring my seats half a meter more forward, move my speakers into the ceiling more, and the list goes on, but that would cost thousands more to do in drywall work, paint, re carpeting, re wiring, and if I just use what I had, I probably wouldn’t even notice the difference!
I love my room now as it is, but I just want to fix a few things that bug me.
I’ll have to check out your channel. Thanks for commenting.
@@BuildMontage My channel is about gaming, so that home theater video was a 1 time thing back in 2013 because my subscribers kept asking me questions about surround sound after they seen my setup... So I just quickly made a "shaky cam" video where I talked about some things to get them started, and it ended up getting over 100k views! It's definitely not worth checking out now tho! Lol
@@BuildMontage I did do a theater room tour using my bad mobile phone camera if you want to see what my setup is looking like. I do have a new couch and carpet on order, so it will look a lot nicer in about a month. ruclips.net/video/Jm4Pp6vNVh8/видео.html
Terminator Juice that’s cool! I’ll check your channel out. I’m into gaming.
I’m totally with you on the two rows of seating mate. Since the kids have grown up, the wife and I sit in the back row 100% of the time now because without doubt that’s the optimal spot to watch from. I kinda feel it’s a waste having the front row now just for the rare occasion when we use them with other people 😕. The Krix system looks awesome mate, can’t wait for the updates. Cheers
Thanks Jase! My kids are still little and they barely come in unless it’s going to be an action movie 🍿 and honestly it’s a total waste to have it there and ruin the optimal viewing position. I think your theater at least you made your riser high enough to see over, as that’s the main issue I have is that I need to lower my front chairs to sit on the back row.
🤩🤩 Krix! Love aussie made products that are world class.
Mate - Im very excited for this one!
Oh boy, that wall of sound looks amazing. Great choice on going with 1 row, I think it will make a world of difference for you. Fantastic video as always man...cheers.
Thanks Barrett, I think so. I was impressed with the Klipsch prosumer version around 2019 when I saw it but completely out of reach due to price/conversion - and when I saw these ones from KRIX, it ticked all the boxes. Plus a single row will be better too!
@@BuildMontage I am looking forward to the videos to follow once you start the upgrade.
When we built our house we just had a couch and TV, the speakers were placed based on that. Later we upgraded the space to a dedicated theater, I toyed with the idea of having two rows but it would’ve been way more seating than we needed and too close in front and too far back for 2nd row. We ended up doing a snack ledge behind the row of chairs for optimal viewing angle/distance. Now we just need to move the in ceiling speakers
Great choice I have Krix speakers for about 5 years and it is the best thing I did and to me they sound great .
I’m excited to get them in my theater
Excited for all of the upgrades! That Krix gear is going to sound pretty awesome. Can't wait for a living room theater tour either! 😂
Thanks Logan - you knew where this was going with two rooms and an additional tour :)
Really looking forward to the home theatre transformation. Kudos to being open minded and not too ego invested in your original idea. Sometimes you have to come to terms with what YOU want, and not what OTHER people think works best for your setup. I see this too often in the hobby.
For me, it's a learning experience, and what I thought I knew when I started was just the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg - and im still no where near done, but I know enough to be dangerous now, and fixing these issues will go a long way to improving the setup. Thanks :)
Brother the new Upgrade is going to be amazing . I seen few home theater with big screens and very short room, with one row I know is going to be a lot better . Right now i have a 4 seater in my theater and i was thinking to do 2 rows but here is my wife & myself. In the future I going down to just a 3 seats 💺. From front to back in my theater is around 18’ (5.486 meters ) side to side 14’(4.267 meters) x ceiling is 8’ (2.438 meters) 3 seats I think are going to be perfect in every aspect ( the one in the center is going to be mine 😁🔊🎼) ! The speakers you going to get they look amazing . I can’t wait to see the finish product ! Thank you for another great video!
Thanks Eli! I can't wait to dig into this project! And yes I agree with your assessment. When I built the room I though everyone would be in there all the time but alas not... just me 90% of the time :(
Build Montage you welcome Tony . I really know the feeling . Your room is going to be outstanding . I can’t wait to get on mine too . I hope you have a great weekend 🔊🙋🏻♂️!
my room is 18 feet deep and my seating is on the back wall..bc im the only the ever in the room...with a 120 inch screen...cant wait to see your new upgrade progress
Thanks John! It’s way better from the back wall. Planning to start the process in August!
@@BuildMontage great cant wait..
Those new speakers look awesome. Should be a huge upgrade, between screen channels and bass.
Yes, I think so - my room is pretty small and pressurised so the current speakers do extremely well - the sound is BIG - but these new ones and the changes will make it better no doubt!
As always, great video Tony!
I appreciate that
Looks like its going to be awesome! Never heard of Krix though, I'll have to check them out. Great video.
Yeah definitely check them out! Great pedigree and history behind them. Links in the description.
Good Video, and good call on the seating change. Looking forward to seeing those new speakers and the finished room
Absolutely! Many more vids to come - and more upgrades: star ceiling, proper acoustic treatment, new screen it's just never ending!
Great video, buddy! As always, top notch production. That Krix system is gonna be incredible! The b roll footage where your family disappears make me 😞
Thanks brother, I'm lookinig forward to it! Hopefully can start the process next month! And yes, its kinda sad but I was so happy two nights ago, I got the whole family in the theater and watched The Dark Knight - was awesome!
You are going to notice that your sound stage is grander too... I moved by seats back a foot and a half after removing a bar that was between my seats and a support beam in my basement home theater. This allowed me to move my seats back, the audio improvement was a pretty big upgrade, imagining and everything just made it sound more grand!
I really think for all viewing purposes you should stick close to the 15 degrees angle to the top and bottom of the screen panel, this tells you the max size and approriate height mounting. I know many think this is too small for some people but if you use your screen for internet, netflix, gaming and movies you don't want a broken neck and strained eyes.
As for moving out from the back wall and having a single row of seating, big thumbs up from me.
One row of seats in a 16x16x8 room. I have 7.2.4 speakers in here and there is no such thing as overkill for sound if you treat your room and listen at an appropriate level, but you can't 'turn down' your screen size you you put a massive screen up close.
For me the back row is perfect for my 120" screen. I love the look of cinemascope but I watch mixed content, plus I dont like the idea of the menu system being forced to a narrow vertical height - i like looking at it on the whole screen, so for me, this next round of upgrades are going to work really well I think!
"Your wife doesn't know but she'll know soon enough" you are a brave man my friend 😂😂😂
Love this.... been there
Ha ha ha I do now! I watch all of his videos! I think we need to have a “chat” 🤣
Uh oh!
That's awesome dude. Do a full detailed review of the Krix wall of sound as I can't find any on RUclips. I know they are huge in Australia, but not so in North America. I Personally would go with the Krix MX30, with additional infrasonic subs to handle bass from 30hz down to 5-10Hz since the Krix don't do infrasonic bass.
Hey Rock Steady,
you’ve got a good point. With Krix systems, we tend to focus on very high output with ultra low distortion, while still having great clean output all the way down to 25Hz. Much below this though (as you mention) an infrasonic sub or two can be a good idea if you'd like to reach 5Hz, as these subs are built specifically for this task and your main subs don’t need to give up output or harmonic distortion in the main LFE range (30-120Hz) to do so.
Will do!
Ahhhh love that pause and lights come on 😁
Hopefully your going to make a step by step guide like you did with your plex/lights setup.
There is a guide on the creator's page - which I linked in the description and he's also in my Discord server so consider joining up if you like - links are in the description!
The new theater is going to be awesome
Great video once more Tony, the amount of sleep I lost deciding on screen size, seating position and speaker placement was ridiculous. I agree the back row is the winner, front is excess seating only in my house
Thanks Connor! It’s one of those things. Michael from KRIX gave me a great bit of info I should have mentioned in the video and that is to start with your seating position first - not screen size.
Your theater is great anyway because your rise is high up. Mine is too low hence the front row is going
In my theater I sit about 8 feet away from a 135 inch screen. In the back seats it's about 14 feet back. I generally don't have issues with my seating distance.
For sure. I lasted 2m away for a while but now I just prefer the back row so might as well do it :)
I made the same mistake, I built a sub riser and put the original riser on top of the sub riser
Can you put speakers behind a Vividstorm screen. If which ones 👍👍
I will find out for you and let you know. This specific one I believe not - as it's ALR - but I'll ask them and get back to you!
You won't believe it, but this is the second video I didn't get a notification from RUclips! Can't wait till I can get to put my own HT together :) Maybe it will take some time, but I know I will be well educated by you by then 😅😉
AwesomeSauce that’s strange. From me or just YT in general? And yes we will do a room tour as well :)
I like that you’re doing 6 atmos speakers although the top middles and top rears are pretty close to each other. Will it give you enough seperation? My back wall is evenly close behind the main seating row and I’m considering the same 7.x.6 set up for the same reasons. I’m still in doubt though wether the top middles would be overkill because they’re that close to the top rears. I like your choice of speakers though!
Haha yep it’s close but I’m working with the holes I already have and there is plenty of separation right now I can tell where the sounds are coming from. Currently have all 6 in ceiling but the reads are currently surrounds not Atmos.
Build Montage Ok thanks! Keep up the good work! 😉
6 ceiling speakers seems excessive, especially considering how close the rear 4 are. Also the one row of seats is too close to the back wall. Move your seats and side surrounds forward some. Front stage behind the screen will be a great improvement. Subs behind the screen may be convenient but usually not the best location. Get yourself a calibrated mic and learn REW (free software) and use your Klipsch subs to experiment with locations in your room. That is where you will want to place subs. Since very few subs can produce significant below 20Hz, consider getting some tactile transducers. As far as my speaker layout and suggestion, go to Dolby Atmos website and look at their recommended angles yourself to compare to what is being proposed.
Great job, as usual! Upgrades should be awesome! I’m assuming you’ll be adding an AT screen since the diagram looks like the screen will block the front stage? Perhaps some of those oversized bean-bag chairs might help when you need to expand seating and keep heads from blocking the view. Kids love them and you can stuff them away or easily move them to other locations when not in use in the theater! All this of course with prior approval from the wife (what were you thinking man?)! 🤔🤣
Thats the plan! The wife is already on the hunt for some beanbags!
I sit with my tactile response bed just about touching my vertical center channel towers.
165 inch acoustic transparent screen
Tony you bloody bearded legend! Great video!
Hahaha!!! Thanks 🙏🏻
A very important topic. Thanks
Is there a sound difference between in wall speakers and mounted speakers. Doesn’t the sound in a speaker come out of the cabinet too. Are you sacrificing sound for aesthetics? I ask because I’m in the construction phase and can build either. I would appreciate your feedback
It will depend on the speaker. Both are very viable options depending on the use case. You certainly won't be sacrificing audio fidelity by using a good in wall speaker however they need to be positioned in such a way that they are as on - axis as possible (aim them at the main listening position) which can be challenging for in walls as walls are generally at right angles. I have a mix of both and both are great for my setup. I like the stealthy look so it works for me.
Extremely happy for you tony & super excited for your upgrade!! And thank you very much for helping me with the seating decision. I was thinking about it lately and wasn’t sure if I really need the second row of seating. But hey, thanks to your video and now I’m damm sure that I won’t need it. I’ll be perfect with one row with 3 seats. Thank you! Btw, I’m absolutely loving the discord!
So glad it helped you with making your decision and I hope it all works out perfect for you. I’ve learned so much I wish I knew before hand, I would have saved a lot of cash and heartache but knowledge is knowledge and it’s been a fantastic ride!
Hey new subscriber here just would like to ask im thinking of building my home theater now and was wondering how many hours do you use your projector because dont you want to save bulb life
Great question. I ration usage to around 6-10 hours per week usually. Good idea to have a spare! Thanks for joining and be sure to check the links for our discord server if u like to join in our community!
Hi Tony, very exiting upgrage plan mate! Your videos are awesome. I was considering MX5 for my HT and my media room is exactly same as yours, probably you also have wisdom home. Based on my research I thought MX5 would be more than enough for 3.6m×4.5m room, any specific reason for going with mx10 for your upgrade?
Cheers!!
Haha yep Wisdom. Built the Ambassador. Join our discord and I can chat offline with u. Links in description.
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Room looks awesome mate, I have a question what made you decide on screen aspect ratio? I am in the process of building a dedicated theatre room and I am torn what size screen to do I do really enjoy 2.4 But don't want to miss 16.9 contend
Thanks! It’s almost done. I’ve done a few vids since this one and I went with another 16:9 for the same reason. Sure scope screens look great but I also watch tv shows so that’s why I went with 16:9. If u have a really wide room you could go scope screen and it won’t affect u too much as u can go large.
As usual. Building / owning a personal home theatre is a never ending process...😂😂
Absolutely! Although once I get through this upgrade, I think I'll be done with speakers... but still to go - more acoustic treatment, star ceiling, additional lighting, changing the screen... so yep, never seems to end :)
120" would have a minimum viewing distance of 3 meters for.
For me, i felt it was closer to 4m - as I said, it comes down to trying for yourself to see what feels comfortable :)
Very clean room sir
Thanks! It’s almost done now!
Is your screen 16:9? If so would it be worth considering a scope screen and reduce the vertical height so a 16:9 image is smaller and a 2.39:1 is the same width? Do you find 2.39:1 ok from the front row with the reduced image height? (Assuming your screen is 16:9)
Sure that could work however I prefer 16:9 as it’s a light controlled room so I don’t see letterboxing and then I can watch regular content on it. I will be widening the sound stage when I get my MX-10 so it should improve quite a bit and feel like it’s coming from the screen.
@@BuildMontage A scope screen is less about the black bars and more about image height (not width) being the main factor for comfortable viewing distance. Like you said 2 to 3x height. Zoom down the 16:9 imagine height so it is the same as scope.
Mark B agreed! I want that vertical height :)
@@BuildMontage You do but also get a further 25 percent reduction in image height with scope material....ie. the optimal viewing distance is 25 percent closer for scope than 16:9 if you keep the image width constant. Anyway....I love the videos and look forward to seeing your progress. Those speakers will be mean!
My favourite quote in this video: "My wife probably doesn't know about this......but she will soon enough"! LOL
HAHA - she sure does now that it's all done!
Hope you show us your beautiful home by hometour and may I know your home theater dimensions?
My wife won’t let me do a home tour but if you watch my room tour you will see all the dimensions there :) it’s on my channel page.
@@BuildMontage Sure thank you :)
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You never fail :)
Great informative video about seating distance, I know people who built home theatre in their alleys without thinking about optimal viewing distance.
Would you be still using A Mart theatre chairs or did you find any other brand, Please comment, as I am looking to buy a 3 seater as well. Thanks.
*Krix! Great choice.
Potentially, A Mart seating but I have something else in the works as well. I'll see which one works out first. The AMart seats are great though for the cost and the looks as well.
@@BuildMontage Thank you, respect!
A media room makes way more sense than a "Home theater room". A few comfy chairs, maybe a sectional..
Thats the beauty of this hobby - you can go any which way you like!
@@BuildMontage well, some HT types just need to think it out is all I'm saying
A bunch of HT chairs I won't need can put a crimp in the budget. Just consider if you really need a movie theater on your house. I live within 2 miles of a huge theater with Imax,Don't need to build one.
The rear speakers are not placed corectly for two rows of seats.
Also when you have that many seats you can really benefit from a proper calibration made by a professional calibrated.
I found 2.5 m to be the best for my taste with an 120 inch screen but I can literally choose any position I want since my HT has only one seat 😁
If you watched the whole video - not sure if you did? - then the old theater is no more. I have a completely new rebuild with only a single row and im 3m from the screen now.
@@BuildMontage i will watch that video and tell you what I think
Lol ok no problem. It’s easy to be armchair critic without knowing all the reasons why things are done a certain way but go ahead :)
@@BuildMontage i have absolutely nothing with you, this is the way I'm talking to everyone, even in real Life. If it's too upsetting i will not comment on this channel anymore.
@@georgepopescu1327 that is your choice. I’m just saying it’s easy to comment without understanding why things are the way they are. You can say rear speakers are in the wrong position, but do u know I have water pipes running through that back wall so it’s not possible to position anywhere else? That’s all I’m saying… it’s easy to take one look and start criticising. Likewise you should be able to take my comments as well.
What size screen recommended if eyeballs are at 7-8 feet
Possibly a 100" - 110"
@@BuildMontage right now we are at 10 feet with a 158” cinemascope and i love it!
Would 110” at 7 feet be the equivalent?
my issue with my soon to be home is the theatre room is only 3.1m by 3.4m :( and i sit 2.7m from my current 55inch tv and westcoast hifi is suggesting my setup be a 5.1.4 but 2 of rear speakers are top speakers. i dont think thats a good idea not having rear speakers but my room is so small i dont know if i can fit rear book shelf speakers in my budget and if i do i will be sitting too close to my new 65ich tv.
Ironically my “rear” speakers were in ceiling for a while until I got the Krix Symmetrix in wall and i changed my in ceiling to Krix Atmospherix A20. Did Westcoast recommend a Krix setup for you? Which speakers? Jump on the Discord server and we can chat more if u like.
@@BuildMontage thanks I'll jump in my user name is IMNERD and I went in with a budget and they kinda said this klipsch package is best for you
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Welcome my friend :) Thanks for joining us
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HI WHAT IS THE SIZE OF YOUR ROOM
3.6m x 4.6m is the size of my own room.
What Short throw projector are you going with Tony?
At this stage I’m undecided. I could go with the CHIQ one however I’m reviewing a VAVA very soon which is a great contender. But also the Optoma P1 is a choice as well. I’ll be making a decision via a video of course :)
@@BuildMontage I am between the P1 or the LG..... Decisions decisions
Maquejode Vidal which LG? The one with the hard to remember designation lol?
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That’s the one lol!
If your wife doesn't know about these plans yet...I'll pray for your marriage. Hehe
Thanks I'll need it :) She knows, but doesnt really know the extent :D
men have the rights to do with their money as they please.
" It's what's comfortable on the eyes & ears ..Also how many times you are viewing LARGE screen for and so on!
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Agreed. Back row was far less fatiguing.
haha, I built a theater in my garage that is 2m x 2m ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
I have Klipsch (height and book shelf) , Polk rear height a Q12 Q Acoustics Sub powered by the awesome Denon AVC-X4700H:)
I can't move further away from my speakers if I wanted too:)
Sounds great to me. .
All reasons to sit in the back row. None really as to why you shouldn’t sit too close or only have one row
AT screens are so addicting they make beautiful flat panels stink audio-wise. Once set up properly the voices literally seem to be coming from the actors on the film. It makes setting up LCRs with flat panels almost seem worthless as the realism totally disappears.
Thats the plan!
My wife dosent know....lol...i live by the same moto.
HAHAHA!
If your nose hits the screen …you’re too close.
LOL
Mate, have you planted a money tree in your back yard?
Hahaha! Not at all. I save my pennies and work a full time job plus two businesses on top of YT for that extra coinage I can hide from the wife :)
You run out of thumbnail ideas already?
Not at all... this is a common thing to reuse thumbnails if they work and are relevant.
Lovely sponsored video disguised as a guide
Lol what??? I’ve not had a paid video yet on my channel. I’m missing out!