I mean you say that but that felt like the least Joel and Ellie moment ever lol in part 2 maybe but not at this point. I do love them as Joel and Ellie. But they are definitely their own versions. I feel like they're taking some emotional shortcuts due to the length of the series, and losing almost an entire episode to Bill and Frank's story. Which was great, but I kind of feared this would happen. T just feels too quick for such a scene like this. And also unfortunately I don't think they've shown off how capable Joel is physically. The pilot was kind of more of an unhinged PTSD moment, on 2 he's getting owned by the Clickers (rightfully so but still), and here he gets choked out pretty easily. I've seen casual fans say that they haven't felt like Joel is like they haven't seen what the bjg deal about Joel is in terms of his fighting ability, and they're right. I love the show still because they're focusing on the story and emotional journey for the characters above all, but I think they are neglecting the action-y side a wee bit too much. Joel needs to feel like a force to be reckoned with. Taking out two guys with a rifle and then getting dominated physically by the third like immediately was a bit disappointing.
"I made a promise to Tess. And Tess was like family". That was never said in the game. Her name wasn't mentioned after we left her. We didn't even know how long they've known each other or where they met. It's magical that we get to find out. We don't just leave her behind. Her promise, and her impact lives.
@@ft-w8052 Joel only replies to Bill’s question, he never initiated any conversation about her. And mentioning her name at the end of the game is just not the same. Here, just as in the game, he said “You don’t bring up Tess, ever”. And here, he brought her up. He’s keeping her in the picture.
one of the best things about the show, tess seemed to die and then they move on so quickly. obviously her and joel were romantic but never official, glad they can at least properly grieve tess.
The final joke had me in sobbing. Seeing how well Pedro is playing Joel just succumb to embracing Ellie knowing full well what the most likely outcome of that is.
That's what you do when you're at a dinner party with your friends, but you've brought a date who none of them know...who's also a 10 and cool af. You just sit back, set them up from time to time and smile at what you know everyone else is thinking.
@@SuperBrentendo89 I loved in episode 1 of the pod how Neil describes just sitting back and letting Craig pitch the show to HBO. It says a lot that Neil completely trusts Craig with his baby.
@@saadesigner07 yes! That was awesome to hear. Sounds like the complete and total opposite of how the Netflix folks approached the adaptation of The Witcher…
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that change into humanizing Bryan really stuck with me. I'm really glad they're fleshing out an already stellar script into a more complex story. This one is going to be one for the books.
Absolutely. And they didn't have to show his death. As soon as I heard him yelling "Mom, mom, mommy" I knew he was dead when it stopped, and I teared up right along with Ellie. It makes me wonder if Riley asked Ellie to kill her to stop her from turning, and if Ellie had to hear her call for her mother as she was dying. That would make sense with the unspoken clues from Ellie so far.
@@Kayjee17 I'm really glad they did it that way. I feel like a lesser show would've tried to show us how horrible it is by focusing on Joel driving the knife in and the camera zooming in to show the man choking his last few breaths away, but it hits so much harder when you're just focusing on Ellie's reaction to the sound from the other room. It's emphasizing the emotional brutality instead of just the physical brutality, and it works so well.
Absolutely agree. The show has done a superb job at humanizing the characters. The way Bryan is handled makes Joel's admission to Ellie that he has been on "both sides" even more impactful. It brings into focus that in this post-apocalyptic world, there is no clear line between good and evil when it comes to the human characters. There are just people. They are doing what they have to to survive. If their actions bring them into conflict with our own, that's what makes them "bad". It's relative. And it's uncomfortable, because it forces us to think, what would I do in that situation? No doubt I, too, wouldn't be able to maintain my moral high ground. I would do what it took to survive.
It was a fight to the death. Bryan changed his mind the moment he realized he lost. The way he started begging when Ellie left because he knew what was next got me.
Ellie finally getting Joel to laugh was a nice moment, and Joel showing Ellie how to properly hold her gun was also a good bonding experience. It really showed them slowly growing closer. I kinda questioned why Joel would even try to drive through the city since he knows how bad cities can get, but I felt like his thought process might've been a little compromised, because he was up all night standing guard, so that was a quick choice he made out of impatience. RIP to Bill's truck. Made it 20 years into the apocalypse, and once Joel gets it, doesn't last 2 days. Also, the second that guy said a doctor wouldn't help, I knew she was gonna go back and kill that doctor, which was a shame. That was an intense decision to get rid of the only doctor for her colony that we know of.
He doesn't know if Tommy is safe, or even alive, and he's been looking out for his little brother all his life, and, as Craig pointed out, he self-identifies as a protector. You see in the 1st ep that hes resolved Tommy's problems many times before. I think he took that chance to go around through the city out of concern for the only family he has left. Ellie changes that dynamic at the end of the ep, but, in that moment, he prioritized Tommy over Ellie. It's, at least, a plausible interpretation why he endangered himself and Ellie like that.
heh, my first thought was : he's calculating how far they can go with the gas they've got, and thinking he can't backtrack THAT far without needing to stop for more. so he's willing to risk it. (like, I have no idea if that is remotely true (gas/distance wise), but because of the preceding scene) ... (though as they drove back from the overpass i was thinking "you can't just drive up that grassy overpass right there? doesn't look that steep?")
They finally made Joel and Ellie bond in a way that is natural. The chemistry was great, and i love how Joel finally laugh thanks to Ellie. Something which he hasn’t done in probably 2 decades
Whoever played Bryan did great for his portfolio, the way he says “it’s okay we’re not fighting anymore” was just absolutely heartbreaking, stellar job from the kid
The changing of the gun scene was actually kind of a relief. I always thought it didn’t make sense for Joel to be mad at Ellie for saving him. Glad they took this approach instead
The game's story (and I'm guessing Neil) is just more cynical than the show's story (and I'm guessing Craig). Joel doesn't evolve into a loving father figure for Ellie in the game. He slips into his grief over Sarah's death. He hates Ellie having saved him, because he wants Ellie to be Sarah (not literally--he wants be a father guarding the innocence of a daughter again). And his daughter knowing how to murder people upsets him. That's a little ambiguous in Part 1. But I think it becomes clear in part 2 that Joel shrank more than he grew during the first game.
@@IncredibleGoliath that was amazingly put 👍🏻👍🏻 the main theme of the game isn’t shooting infected. It’s exploring human relationships after a huge traumatic event. How can a relationship with someone else change a person who’s experienced a massive amount of grief? How can a traumatic event be overcome with a relationship? How love and closeness can still persevere during the end of the world. That’s why the third episode was so amazing.
While the changes have been both subtle and pretty great, I'm glad they changed it up from Joel scolding Ellie for saving him in the game to being more natural father/ daughter approach by showing her how to hold her gun (FEDRA really needs to step up their game in firearms training).
Thought the episode was great. Mazin has a great understanding of The Last of Us by handling the violence in a realistic and emotional way. Happy that they haven’t shied away from Joel’s violent and morally ambiguous past. Also love all the attention to Joel’s age. Makes him feel more realistic. The joke book and porno mag were icing on the cake. Happy that they got both in the show. Those moments led up to the highlight where Joel had a legitimate laugh at Ellie’s diarrhea joke 😂 ‘Twas awesome! Such good character building moments in this episode.
The sets are just amazing. They're right out of the game. Every little detail from rusted mechanical parts on the walls, wooded up windows to the blue lockers you almost always get good loot in. I love it!
@@boomshine87 Right? They did it with that HBO fairy detective show...Carnival Row, I think Side note, the show had the biggest hype and seemed like it was going to be awesome, and then.... Nada. No one talked about it. All that set design, costumes, etc, for nothing!
@@RealBradMiller I watched Carnival Row, di they do a second season? Don't it air when COVID hit I guess they couldn't do a second season for a while.even so I wouldn't go out my way to watch it
@Christopher P. Braxton lol we know who Neil Druckmann is. You don't have to be salty for us being amazed at the sincerity of their adaptation. I'll say it again and again if I want to. The attention to detail is amazing. The director doesn't do everything you know. The various designers and staff working on the show are ALL doing a great job keeping it so faithful yet refreshing. Not just the creator.
@Christopher P. Braxton is there something inherently wrong with noticing details and appreciating something that you enjoy? when my favourite band comes out with a new song, i get just as excited as i did the last time. have i heard the band before? oh yeah i have. but guess what? i still enjoy and appreciate it. which is exactly what people are doing with this show. and what exactly is wrong with that? it annoys you? then get out of comment sections on a video DIVING INTO THE DETAILS of the show.
What a way to end the episode. Seeing Joel break a smile and unknowingly bonding to Joel was amazing and so sympathetic. The pauses to allow a natural chuckle from the characters was amazing. Not to mention the smallest of details, such as him sleeping facing towards Ellie at the end as he is beginning to get comfortable with her. Just for the side effect to be that he doesn’t hear the entrance of these new characters. Really loving the writing and show so far. Keep it up.
When her lieutenant spoke on the show I did think.. "Jeez that dude sounds like Tommy'. LOL! Thats crazy. Didnt even notice it was his in game voice actor.
@@Lcngopher the character that they have for Troy Baker doesnt have much screen time in the game and only says a couple of lines. I hope they dive deeper on their story just so we get a bit more of that character with Troy.
in the game Joel is more guarded. He still is in the show, but I love how Pedro gives Joel a bit more self awareness. In the scene where Ellie saves Joel, ner thought it made sense Joel would be angry at Ellie. Pedro gives Joel a bit more flexibilty. In the sense he understands Ellie is just a kid.
@@Skitz0frenix I think they’re keeping the early streaming schedule for the rest of the series. Idk why they would do it for one week only. It’s a promotion to get more people to subscribe to HBO Plus
One of my favourite details was the Globe Cinema (which is in my city, Calgary). The Marquee shows Underworld and Matchstick Men. Both of these films came out in 2003, when the outbreak occurred. Underworld is about a powerful female vampire fighting against her own kind. Much like Ellie, an infected fighting against other infected. And Matchstick Men is about a depressed con artist taking a young girl under his wing and teaching her how to con people but exposing her to a life of crime. Which reflects Joel and Ellie's current situation.
I was really upset about her casting at first simply because of how different they look. But I knew her from GoT and expected her brash, swearing swagger and that is completely Ellie and she's done an amazing job.
People were upset? Anyone who saw her acting when she killed the giant and actually played the game knows she’s the perfect actor for this. I’m surprised.
@@isaaclee3322 you missed all that? Omg some people are still raging over it although, to be fair, not as many as before it it aired. I read some horrible comments about her, people can be so stupid & nasty over things like this.
Everyone "upset" about casting choice for Ellie is a rancid pedo creep. These neckbeards did it back when the second game came out too, because they couldn't jack it to a 14 year old anymore.
I love these podcast episodes. They perfectly scratch the itch of wanting the next episode by adding depth and value to the one you just watched, making you feel all the more contented.
What a beautiful episode, every single Joel and Ellie moment was done to perfection, with excellent humor and emotional weight, and that's what it's all about. I honestly can't pick a fave scene, just all of them, Pedro and Bella are phenomenal. Next Sunday can't come soon enough!
@@adastra6747 Fair enough if you disagree, but to me this is some of the most authentic and emotional dialogue between two people learning to care for each other and let their walls down in a brutal world, that I have ever seen. I mean with them laughing at the end? I felt that, it felt 100% genuine, like Pedro and Bella were actually just laughing at the joke, I don't see what's rushed here, maybe they say a line faster every now and then but that's gonna happen, because it's not Troy playing Joel or Ashley playing Ellie, not every single word is gonna sound the same, and for what it's worth, I think both of them have the mannerisms down quite well, and there have been plenty of times where I have been impressed at how much they both can express and say, especially Pedro, without saying anything at all.
@@adastra6747 i agree! I like them both as actors, but they feel mis-cast to me. Then again, who could live up to the performances of Troy and Ashley when we have grown so accustomed to them. I always pictured Hugh Jackman as the perfect Joel (think Prisoners). Ellie I have no idea who could have done, but Bella just seems wrong for some reason. The dialogue seems forced.
@The Last Mikester I feel they both play their parts very well and do have good chemistry, but I just can't see how anyone could say 'some of the most authentic and emotional dialogue...I've ever seen' at this early stage. Maybe you need to come at it having played the game but I genuinely feel like the story would've had to start with these two together to get anywhere near matching that profound statement only 4 episodes in. It feels to me like they've barely been together 5 minutes - with most of the story so far involving many other characters coming and going and subplots taking place. Am I missing something? Are they supposed to have been on the road for weeks/months or something? As I feel like I'm nowhere near yet truly caring for these characters when we don't know enough about them yet or have experienced enough of their plight and journey together. Walking Dead took many series for people to truly invest in the characters and their world, whereas 4 episodes in...(this one the first really of just the two of them) Maybe if I had played the game I would feel different but all feels a little rushed so far for me
@@DilbertWhitehead I think on some level there is merit to having already played the game as I have, as you get attached then, and the game has alot more time to do stuff, all the little moments that can be missed in the show. However, you don't need multiple seasons of a show to start caring about the characters lol, I think it says alot when a show can get you invested with only a few episodes. If it doesn't do that for you, then fair enough, maybe play the game and come back or wait till it's all out and judge against the first season of the Walking Dead, and see where you're at. I have seen alot of people who never played the game comment specifically about how invested they are so far, in both the characters and the world. By authentic and emotional dialogue, I'm referring to alot of the scenes between Joel and Ellie, but particularly the ending where they start laughing, in such a brutal world, you just don't hear laughter really, and who knows how long it's been since Joel has laughed, in my opinion it was a special moment that feels genuine, and not rushed at all, I think this moment has had some buildup, as so far, Joel and Ellie have been mostly exchanging insults and sarcastic remarks, and now they are laughing and enjoying something (a joke) together, and in that moment, the awkward tension and perhaps even animosity, is gone. It'll probably come back, and soon, but for now they just get to feel at least little happy. It shows a bond between two people who are starting to care about one another, not to mention the gun scene where Joel apologizes to Ellie because she had to shoot the guy, and he kinda awkwardly stumbles around sentences trying to make sure she's okay, it shows vulnerability and an effort at connecting with the other person, for both of them. And yeah, I don't think we are at the point yet where we look back and say wow what a journey, but that's kinda the point seeing as we aren't even halfway yet, so I guess we'll see how people feel at the end
This may be the shortest podcast so far in length, but it feels like it has the most information packed into it. Somehow Neil and Craig managed to touch on every aspect of the show from technical details to writing choices made and character motivations. I can't imagine a question about this episode that went unaddressed or unanswered. Just to let you know, you have been completely successful in my case of going where you want to take me with the story and expanding on the game and its themes that makes it feel liken an experience separate from the game but still tightly connected.
It was really subtle but when Joel was telling Elle “you will not get shot”the look on his face told everyone that he was really trying to convince himself she wouldn’t get shot because Sarah got shot and didn’t want that to happen again 😳
I don't think I'm ready for Henry and Sam, but already Joel and Ellie are connecting which is a beautiful thing Joel slowing opening up to her In such a Subtle way till the end wher he says he losing it And he is.
Seeing Ellie and Joel crack up near the end of the episode was the highlight of the episode for me. There were so many amazing moments (especially when they were in the bar, I teared up) but the night and day difference to how they interacted compared to the last episode just makes me super stoked to watch them grow closer over the course of the show. I’m so happy this game adaption is in wonderful hands
Really great episode as usual. I felt a bit weird about how quickly Joel was softening towards Ellie compared to the game, but then had to give myself the 'if you want the exact game dynamic then PLAY THE GAME' talk hahah. I put that aside and now can fully appreciate their relationship blossoming. Loved that last scene with the giggling
It's about pacing too, technically we are halfway into the season which would roughly be equal to 7 to 8 hours into the game! That's the magic of the games btw, the level design, difficulty, etc. make you feel like you have been through a lot together, plus some NPC dialogues to add details over a long course of time. Something like that cannot directly be translated into a tv show because it would be boring. However, there are time skips in tv shows. Like it makes sense that it's been a long time since Tess's death, hours worth of hike till Bill and Frank's, and then days' worth of driving together that is not really shown on the screen! So though it may seem like it's quick, it's not, there are definitely offscreen interactions and growth!
I have so many favorite scenes on this episode. The thing that stands out most for me is the first time Ellie takes out the pun book, with the joke about the mermaid. She playfully stares at Joel and I could imagine the Jeopardy tune while she waits for answer.
Them laughing at the end reminded me of a piece of concept art of both of them laughing around a campfire. we missed 99% of their journey (most of it was driving and horse riding) so we miss all the little moments
Having not played the game and loving the series so far thank yall for being vague about Sam and henry i always want to be surprised i haven't seen trailers for the past episodes and this upcoming one!
One thing that disappointed me was when Ellie says ''are we going to help him?'' and Joel replies ''no''. In the game he replies ''he aint even hurt'' before flooring it. It was such a cool moment in the game atleast.
The Kansas City stuff is playing out a little like LOU2's WLF faction taking over Seattle. Since that seems like it's going to be a major thread of season 1, it's making me wonder if season 2 will really start departing from the game. One obvious route is that they'll cover the years between LOU and LOU2 with more seasons. Almost has to go that way, because it would be hard to age Ellie 4 years in 1 year.
At moments I forget Bella isn’t the character I am used to. Once in awhile I will go, “I mean she doesn’t remind me of Ellie that much”, and then suddenly they put out another game scene that makes me go, “Damn she is Ellie tho!”
I wish it was on Friday because of that Cliffhanger..im still mad, that im going to have to wait till Sunday to see who's those 2 people are at the end.. Think I have an idea since I was kinda scrolling thru the comments like a idiot but couldn't help my self.
Yep, that's the beauty of it . If you played the game you cannot be sure what next events will bring. And I don't mind changing stuff as long as they got right impact on viewer.
I'm so glad they've said there's going to be deviations from the games plot line, I've seen so many ignorant comments from people mad that they aren't following the game verbatim If I want to experience the games storyline I'll just replay it. I WANT some variety in this new medium while sticking to the overall spirit of the games and so far they have walked that tightrope perfectly
Not a gamer and not familiar at all with this one, but I'm loving the series. The storytellers get that it is always, always characters and relationships that are critical to even the most riveting plot. I love these peeks behind the curtain, which add to my appreciation of how delicately nuanced this story of violence and love really is. It is, to cadge a phrase from another context altogether, brutally gorgeous.
The original cast won't be beat. The game version was already perfect. That being said, the HBO show and actors have done amazing so far. I just hope they continue to do so.
Same I'm loving the show it's wonderful and Pedro and Bella are doing a great job. But the games and the original actors will always hold a special place in my heart never will be topped.
For them to be beaten means there is competition. I don't get why people constantly have to have some competition. Game people also worked on this show. Loving one thing doesn't mean you can't love another with the same passion.
I have played this game over and over. My absolute favorite game ever. Craig and Neil are adding so much more to this world! This last episode was absolutely amazing! The depth that they are taking us is outstanding and the scene in the truck was such a great homage to the game. Thank you for making this show so amazing and giving us so much more depth to the story. Thank you both for your vision and execution of this great franchise.
The change from Pittsburgh to Kansas City being almost purely a superficial one because they couldn’t shoot somewhere that looked like Pittsburgh makes a lot of sense
The earlier bonding was needed to help sell the later "treading on thin ice" scene, which aways felt a bit unearned/rushed in the game, cause Joel for the most part kept a lot more distance from Ellie. There's a night and day difference between game Joel disregarding Ellie saving her, to HBO Joel feeling bad about her having to shoot and teaching her how to handle guns. Plus the laughing we never got in the game.
Bryan: "we're not fighting anymore!" how fking convenient... LOL. They weren't so 'human' when they tried to ambush Joel and Ellie. They didn't even try to negotiate, talk, bargain, nothing. It was an act and trap from the start and then they tried to kill Joel and Ellie as soon as they knew that Joel knew.
Enemies in the game are actually also being humanized. After you kill them, their colleagues are going to be calling them by their first names for you to feel that the guy you've just headshotted also has a life and family.
they didnt say that they werent in the game. And the name calling was only introduced in part 2 and then put into the part 1 remake so its not actually in the original version of the first game or the remaster. The hunters in the game arent as humanised as they are here in the show , but still yeah the games do humanise the enemies cos thats just apart of the dna of the last of us so of course they were going to expand upon it and make it more deep in the tv show like how part 2 does it in a deeper way
The only thing I can complain about this episode was the fact that Joel did not say the famous line "He ain't even hurt". It made Joel so dangerous and cold-blooded, I was really hoping they'd bring that in. Otherwise, the episode was a 10/10, loved witnessing the exact conversations from the game and, see there, low and behold, I finally managed to accept Bella as Ellie at the beginning of the episode O_O
@@gal.mp4 bro its the other way round. So sorry im not a sheep and think autistic internet trends are funny. Imagine defending a joke as autisitc and unfunny as this , you need to touch some grass and delete social media goofy
This show just continues to impress! The episodes seem so short, I don't want them to end. Thank you for giving us a faithful and masterful adaptation. I believe I can speak for a lot when I say, we appreciate it!!
i never played the game so i have no idea what youre talking about lol but iam look forward to whatever is going to happen loved this episode and this show!
I wonder if Ellie's going to have to shoot Riley in the show. She'll still be lucid while it's clear that Riley is turning. Riley might even get a chance to realize what's happening.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think Ellie is referring to Riley when she said it wasn't her first time shooting someone, meaning Riley turned and Ellie had to shoot her. If that's the case, I just know I'm gonna need a box of tissues during that episode.
@@RandyReviews1990 you should stay out of comments if you haven't seen the game lol gonna end up getting things spoiled Next episode should be great though, enjoy
@@chriswithey2393 it'd be an interesting twist, cause in the game the whole point was ellie and riley just accepting their fate and letting themselves turn.
Hearing them say that Ellie is obsessed with guns because of a traumatic and lifechanging violence that affected her (the bite) and her notion that a gun could have saved her is actually so heartbreaking. Like, of course that's it. Damn. That hurts
I love the way things are going in the show. I have played and watched the game so many times (100+ is no exaggeration). Excited to hear there will be more surprises to come. The Pun Book 🤗 Joel's reaction when Ellie tells the 1st joke... I read his look as 'Ok, this is hitting way too close to home.' And I love that he laughed at the last joke. I laughed so much... plus it's one of the best jokes from the Pun Book. The pirate joke better be in the show 😏
Really loved the familiar aspects of the game being referenced to in this episode. Had me smiling until it ran through me jeans, lol. Every episode so far has been a consistent and beautiful master piece!
Melanie Lynskey is an amazing actress, but she really seems like a weird casting choice for Kathleen. The character really doesn't look hardened by her surroundings and doesn't seem to fit her group, specially as a leader. I supposed there’s a reason behind it, which will be eventually addressed. Other than that, a great episode. Very reminiscent of the game. The banter between Ellie and Joel was awesome.
Incredible episode as per!! I found the bit where joel kills that young boy really hard to liaten to, his fear was so real and his screams for his mom were heartbreaking. Wasn't a fan of how emotional joel got and his speech about how its not fair for Ellie to shoot someone to then give her a gun 10 seconds later.
It’s about time we got some Kansas Citian (Missouri, not the Kansas side) representation in media. Seeing I-45 and Worlds of Fun was a really cool interesting detail to!
I'm amazed at how often Neil remembers to give context for people who haven't played the game. As a game developer, the mechanics of the game are even more old hat to him than they should be to Craig Mazin and Troy Baker, yet he's the one who remembers to clarify the things that people who only watched the show might be confused by
I thought the episode was good, but they could have at least give it 15 more minutes, showing a little more action. That ambush scene from the game, was one of the most iconic scenes from The Last Of Us. It was a little slow in places. And yea that new Kathrine lady does remind me of school teacher, or nurse. But I still like how they humanize the enemies, and that is way more realistic than the first game. And in the game you were facing raider after raider without a leader! And you mean to tell me that one dude from Wyoming got an Army of raiders in Kansas as well? Yea that was not realistic for the games, so humanizing enemies is a great idea.
3 things (and I don’t know if they read these comments but probably not) 1) my head canon for what happened between Ellie and Riley is that JUST LIKE THE EMT said in her recording, Ellie LEFT BEHIND Riley (but unlike the EMT never came back). Couldn’t bring herself to shoot her. Which hits twice as hard when you know her biggest fear is being left and yet she did it to her friend. This is backed up by the second game where she says the first person she killed (non-infected) was that dude. Meaning either Riley was already infected or she left her while she was turning and ran from her. 2) Bryan (can NEVER trust Bryan’s with Ys) struck me as somebody with crocodile tears. I didn’t believe for a second he would let us go or that he was sorry for trying to rob from us or that he thought we “were good”. He was selfishly trying to get his way out of it. Which does 2 things: for the inexperienced (Ellie/new watchers) you think “wow…he’s human” for Joel (people who played) “wow…look at this wolf in sheep’s clothes. Look at this MONSTER”. I thought he was less human because of what he said because he’s stealing what probably dozens of others said to HIM hoping that enough time passes where his buddy can shoot Joel in the back. I saw it as a foil to this scene 20:19 later on in the episode, with her saying all the same things I imagine Joel was thinking. 3) I always assume when Joel yelled at Ellie in the game it wasn’t insensitive but the opposite. He was trying to shock her out of the spiral she was slipping in and into anger. When things calmed down he did apologize and rather well I might add
Kathleen being the leader doesn't make any sence unless she was the strategic genius behind taking down FEDRA. She doesn't have the characteristics of a boss lady like Marlene, she's more like a manager who took the job for good pay. I hope they have a good explanation for why everyone respects her.
It's kind of funny and ironic how in the woods they were safe but joel felt the need to stand guard. However in the building they were in danger yet he could fall asleep. Thinking about it actually makes sense and I assume most of us would feel more vulnerable in the woods the same way. If you think a little harder though one could argue that being surrounded by doors and walls makes you less susceptible to hearing movement approaching. I understand that is why he scattered the glass but it didn't work out. In the woods you see everything around you and hear every little twig break not to mention in the middle of nowhere so why don't we feel safe. I guess its just the paranoia of being out in the open.
The good: Joel and Ellie keep bonding in believable and charming ways. The bad: The hunters aren’t scary. A bit of thing for Druckmann but you don’t need to humanize every villain. Here it takes away from the fear factor. They were the survival of the fittest types in the game. In the tv show we get a sobbing kid and a middle aged lady with kindergarten teacher vibes. The original Tommy plays the gruff military guy, he’s solid at least.
Yeah I was pretty disappointed with the ambush scene. It’s a really memorable encounter in the game and I don’t think it was done well here at all. I’m not expecting to see Joel beast 10 dudes like he would in the game but when you compare it to the outbreak in Ep 1 and the clicker encounter in Ep 2, which felt like intense fights for survival, the firefight here felt really flat. Still, it’s the first time I’ve felt disappointed by something in the series so far so not the end of the world.
The saving of Joel so early on really works. Makes me wonder now more than ever if Joel wanted to die. Let go. It's too much for him to blow it again. Sarah. Tess... He wants to go before getting attached. Joel could've taken Bryan. But he's too scared of facing down his mistakes. He wants to let go. But once Ellie fires he falls for her. "Shes just like me." Boom now he's invested. How absolutely well done. I thought the show would pale in comparison. Its much richer and dense than the game!! Great stuff y'all. Please just do Pedro some justice come pt 2 😁
loved this episode and this show it was kind of short but it didn't need to be overly long the pasting of this show is amazing every episode has been a hit for me!
I am soooo happy!!!! This episode, the whole season!! So far Omg!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I'm so glad this worked the way that it did to reach Craig and that the union of Creig, Neil and HBO its pure *chefs kiss* We got the puns, we got the magazine, we got the character growth, and even tho we changed cities the whole sets look perfect as the game. The addition of the character of Kathleen is soo good. This was such an amazing episode. Each week it's a win!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️ Thank you!!! The puns had me dying I loved when Joel couldn't hold it in ugh so so so good!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️😭 I love this story so much and seeing portrayed in such a beautiful way on a TV series medium!!!! ❤️😭 My heart is so full. Also I'm afraid of Craig bc he's done so good with this season (I'm sure the rest will be as good) so I'm already afraid for s2! 🤣😭❤️This is going to be AWESOME! 👏🏽 THANK YOU once more!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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They are Joel and Ellie... The last scene with them cracking up at the joke after surviving together was amazing. love this show
seeing joel smile like that warmed my heart
Heartwarming AF T_T
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@@TheWefikus took me a minute! 😭
I mean you say that but that felt like the least Joel and Ellie moment ever lol in part 2 maybe but not at this point.
I do love them as Joel and Ellie. But they are definitely their own versions. I feel like they're taking some emotional shortcuts due to the length of the series, and losing almost an entire episode to Bill and Frank's story. Which was great, but I kind of feared this would happen. T just feels too quick for such a scene like this. And also unfortunately I don't think they've shown off how capable Joel is physically. The pilot was kind of more of an unhinged PTSD moment, on 2 he's getting owned by the Clickers (rightfully so but still), and here he gets choked out pretty easily. I've seen casual fans say that they haven't felt like Joel is like they haven't seen what the bjg deal about Joel is in terms of his fighting ability, and they're right.
I love the show still because they're focusing on the story and emotional journey for the characters above all, but I think they are neglecting the action-y side a wee bit too much. Joel needs to feel like a force to be reckoned with. Taking out two guys with a rifle and then getting dominated physically by the third like immediately was a bit disappointing.
"I made a promise to Tess. And Tess was like family".
That was never said in the game. Her name wasn't mentioned after we left her. We didn't even know how long they've known each other or where they met. It's magical that we get to find out. We don't just leave her behind. Her promise, and her impact lives.
Good point! Niel and team are such good story tellers. They get a second chance to tell this story and they’re nailing it.
They gave Tess a backstory, Neil tells it in the first episode of this podcast. It’s as heartbreaking as Joel’s story.
Joel mentions Tess in bills town. Ellie also mentions Tess in the last scene.
@@ft-w8052 Joel only replies to Bill’s question, he never initiated any conversation about her.
And mentioning her name at the end of the game is just not the same.
Here, just as in the game, he said “You don’t bring up Tess, ever”. And here, he brought her up. He’s keeping her in the picture.
one of the best things about the show, tess seemed to die and then they move on so quickly. obviously her and joel were romantic but never official, glad they can at least properly grieve tess.
The final joke had me in sobbing. Seeing how well Pedro is playing Joel just succumb to embracing Ellie knowing full well what the most likely outcome of that is.
same here it was such a good scene
Had me in sobbing? You mean in tears, or sobbing...
@@blaze556922 sorry til'* 😉
It had me bawling 😭 I laughed but then that laugh Bella Ramsey does and how well Pedro Pascal plays Joel just sent me 😭😭😭
Felt like there was a little too much laughing going on. It made me think of that one meme with Pedro laughing and crying at the same time.
I don’t know if it’s just Neil himself, but I love how silent he is. To me it shows how much he trusts Craig with the story and how it’s going 😊
I very much appreciate and am impressed by how well Craig knows the story of the games and understands it on a deep level.
That's what you do when you're at a dinner party with your friends, but you've brought a date who none of them know...who's also a 10 and cool af. You just sit back, set them up from time to time and smile at what you know everyone else is thinking.
@@SuperBrentendo89 I loved in episode 1 of the pod how Neil describes just sitting back and letting Craig pitch the show to HBO. It says a lot that Neil completely trusts Craig with his baby.
It’s just Neil, most people that know him say he is a more quiet and layed back person.
@@saadesigner07 yes! That was awesome to hear. Sounds like the complete and total opposite of how the Netflix folks approached the adaptation of The Witcher…
Watching Joel and Ellie laugh together was so adorable, my heart grew 2 sizes.
That's serious. You should see a cardiologist.
@@hunteruk3967 Bro, leave her alone. It'll return to its normal size in time, hopefully before it can stop her enjoying the rest of the series.
@@kanton4108 DUDE you know the next episode right ? If its already 2x now it's probably gonna burst.
Prevention is better than cure.
An enlarged heart (cardiomegaly) can be caused by damage to the heart muscle or any condition that makes the heart pump harder than usual, including pregnancy.
*Me and the Grinch reading these comments* 😶
that change into humanizing Bryan really stuck with me. I'm really glad they're fleshing out an already stellar script into a more complex story. This one is going to be one for the books.
Absolutely. And they didn't have to show his death. As soon as I heard him yelling "Mom, mom, mommy" I knew he was dead when it stopped, and I teared up right along with Ellie. It makes me wonder if Riley asked Ellie to kill her to stop her from turning, and if Ellie had to hear her call for her mother as she was dying. That would make sense with the unspoken clues from Ellie so far.
@@Kayjee17 I was thinking the same.
@@Kayjee17 I'm really glad they did it that way. I feel like a lesser show would've tried to show us how horrible it is by focusing on Joel driving the knife in and the camera zooming in to show the man choking his last few breaths away, but it hits so much harder when you're just focusing on Ellie's reaction to the sound from the other room. It's emphasizing the emotional brutality instead of just the physical brutality, and it works so well.
Absolutely agree. The show has done a superb job at humanizing the characters. The way Bryan is handled makes Joel's admission to Ellie that he has been on "both sides" even more impactful. It brings into focus that in this post-apocalyptic world, there is no clear line between good and evil when it comes to the human characters. There are just people. They are doing what they have to to survive. If their actions bring them into conflict with our own, that's what makes them "bad". It's relative. And it's uncomfortable, because it forces us to think, what would I do in that situation? No doubt I, too, wouldn't be able to maintain my moral high ground. I would do what it took to survive.
It was a fight to the death. Bryan changed his mind the moment he realized he lost. The way he started begging when Ellie left because he knew what was next got me.
Ellie finally getting Joel to laugh was a nice moment, and Joel showing Ellie how to properly hold her gun was also a good bonding experience. It really showed them slowly growing closer. I kinda questioned why Joel would even try to drive through the city since he knows how bad cities can get, but I felt like his thought process might've been a little compromised, because he was up all night standing guard, so that was a quick choice he made out of impatience. RIP to Bill's truck. Made it 20 years into the apocalypse, and once Joel gets it, doesn't last 2 days.
Also, the second that guy said a doctor wouldn't help, I knew she was gonna go back and kill that doctor, which was a shame. That was an intense decision to get rid of the only doctor for her colony that we know of.
He doesn't know if Tommy is safe, or even alive, and he's been looking out for his little brother all his life, and, as Craig pointed out, he self-identifies as a protector. You see in the 1st ep that hes resolved Tommy's problems many times before. I think he took that chance to go around through the city out of concern for the only family he has left. Ellie changes that dynamic at the end of the ep, but, in that moment, he prioritized Tommy over Ellie.
It's, at least, a plausible interpretation why he endangered himself and Ellie like that.
heh, my first thought was : he's calculating how far they can go with the gas they've got, and thinking he can't backtrack THAT far without needing to stop for more. so he's willing to risk it.
(like, I have no idea if that is remotely true (gas/distance wise), but because of the preceding scene)
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(though as they drove back from the overpass i was thinking "you can't just drive up that grassy overpass right there? doesn't look that steep?")
Don't forget they were also kinda lost as Ellie was having trouble with the map
They finally made Joel and Ellie bond in a way that is natural. The chemistry was great, and i love how Joel finally laugh thanks to Ellie. Something which he hasn’t done in probably 2 decades
I love how after asking whether they are safe from hunters when they sleep in the forest, Joel doesn't sleep and stands guard for Ellie's safety.
Whoever played Bryan did great for his portfolio, the way he says “it’s okay we’re not fighting anymore” was just absolutely heartbreaking, stellar job from the kid
That's my cousin, hope he gets more roles!
@@Ant-ym3mw seriously man, tell him he was astounding from me!
"It was out standing in it's field... 😑"
Joel's face got me. 🤣
I loved seeing the Arbys sign in the beginning of the episode since it was a nod to Bill and Frank ❤️
Loves!
Noticed this immediately as well 😊
The changing of the gun scene was actually kind of a relief. I always thought it didn’t make sense for Joel to be mad at Ellie for saving him. Glad they took this approach instead
The game's story (and I'm guessing Neil) is just more cynical than the show's story (and I'm guessing Craig).
Joel doesn't evolve into a loving father figure for Ellie in the game. He slips into his grief over Sarah's death. He hates Ellie having saved him, because he wants Ellie to be Sarah (not literally--he wants be a father guarding the innocence of a daughter again). And his daughter knowing how to murder people upsets him.
That's a little ambiguous in Part 1. But I think it becomes clear in part 2 that Joel shrank more than he grew during the first game.
@@IncredibleGoliath that was amazingly put 👍🏻👍🏻 the main theme of the game isn’t shooting infected. It’s exploring human relationships after a huge traumatic event. How can a relationship with someone else change a person who’s experienced a massive amount of grief? How can a traumatic event be overcome with a relationship? How love and closeness can still persevere during the end of the world. That’s why the third episode was so amazing.
Na should have kept but changed the dialouge, they should have kept the part where joel is pinned underwater and ellie shoots the guy
While the changes have been both subtle and pretty great, I'm glad they changed it up from Joel scolding Ellie for saving him in the game to being more natural father/ daughter approach by showing her how to hold her gun (FEDRA really needs to step up their game in firearms training).
Shoutout to Craig and Neil for truly doing their due diligence to the source material and expanding beyond in amazing fashion
Neil wrote the story for the game. It's beyond due diligence, the script for the show is coming from the source itself. Lol.
Thought the episode was great. Mazin has a great understanding of The Last of Us by handling the violence in a realistic and emotional way. Happy that they haven’t shied away from Joel’s violent and morally ambiguous past. Also love all the attention to Joel’s age. Makes him feel more realistic. The joke book and porno mag were icing on the cake. Happy that they got both in the show. Those moments led up to the highlight where Joel had a legitimate laugh at Ellie’s diarrhea joke 😂 ‘Twas awesome!
Such good character building moments in this episode.
The sets are just amazing. They're right out of the game. Every little detail from rusted mechanical parts on the walls, wooded up windows to the blue lockers you almost always get good loot in. I love it!
I wish we could do a set tour,like they do with Harry Potter haha
@@boomshine87 Right? They did it with that HBO fairy detective show...Carnival Row, I think
Side note, the show had the biggest hype and seemed like it was going to be awesome, and then.... Nada. No one talked about it. All that set design, costumes, etc, for nothing!
@@RealBradMiller I watched Carnival Row, di they do a second season? Don't it air when COVID hit I guess they couldn't do a second season for a while.even so I wouldn't go out my way to watch it
@Christopher P. Braxton lol we know who Neil Druckmann is. You don't have to be salty for us being amazed at the sincerity of their adaptation. I'll say it again and again if I want to. The attention to detail is amazing. The director doesn't do everything you know. The various designers and staff working on the show are ALL doing a great job keeping it so faithful yet refreshing. Not just the creator.
@Christopher P. Braxton is there something inherently wrong with noticing details and appreciating something that you enjoy? when my favourite band comes out with a new song, i get just as excited as i did the last time. have i heard the band before? oh yeah i have. but guess what? i still enjoy and appreciate it. which is exactly what people are doing with this show. and what exactly is wrong with that? it annoys you? then get out of comment sections on a video DIVING INTO THE DETAILS of the show.
What a way to end the episode. Seeing Joel break a smile and unknowingly bonding to Joel was amazing and so sympathetic. The pauses to allow a natural chuckle from the characters was amazing. Not to mention the smallest of details, such as him sleeping facing towards Ellie at the end as he is beginning to get comfortable with her. Just for the side effect to be that he doesn’t hear the entrance of these new characters. Really loving the writing and show so far. Keep it up.
When her lieutenant spoke on the show I did think.. "Jeez that dude sounds like Tommy'. LOL! Thats crazy. Didnt even notice it was his in game voice actor.
One of many cameos, several of which are yet to come
@@Lcngopher the character that they have for Troy Baker doesnt have much screen time in the game and only says a couple of lines. I hope they dive deeper on their story just so we get a bit more of that character with Troy.
@@Lcngopher would be crazy if the original joel is acting opposite the new joel lol
I noticed immediately.
in the game Joel is more guarded. He still is in the show, but I love how Pedro gives Joel a bit more self awareness. In the scene where Ellie saves Joel, ner thought it made sense Joel would be angry at Ellie. Pedro gives Joel a bit more flexibilty. In the sense he understands Ellie is just a kid.
I'm so happy you kept the dad joke book. Best ever.
I really appreciated that they included Joel's love of coffee ☕️
Pedro pascal loves coffee just as much as Joel 🙂
@@erikaveron9738 Most sane adults do
@@Largentina. it's what keeps us sane
"God I miss coffee" ☕️
(Line from the game)
Looking forward to seeing how this new Henry and Sam arc goes. This was a great episode. Love seeing the bond being built with Joel And Ellie.
I hope the song in the end credits will be Above The Law - Black Superman 👀
@@Skitz0frenix Mann that would have been brilliant
You know this show is a banger when you're screaming at the end of the episode because you have to endure another week of waiting.
I feel this, I hate having to wait but oh my gosh is it so good!!
GOOD NEWS, the next episode releases earlier, this friday actually!
@@yayyo3226 thank you so much for the info!!!
@@yayyo3226 And then we have to wait another 9 days because the one after that will be on Sunday again 😫
@@Skitz0frenix I think they’re keeping the early streaming schedule for the rest of the series. Idk why they would do it for one week only. It’s a promotion to get more people to subscribe to HBO Plus
One of my favourite details was the Globe Cinema (which is in my city, Calgary). The Marquee shows Underworld and Matchstick Men. Both of these films came out in 2003, when the outbreak occurred. Underworld is about a powerful female vampire fighting against her own kind. Much like Ellie, an infected fighting against other infected. And Matchstick Men is about a depressed con artist taking a young girl under his wing and teaching her how to con people but exposing her to a life of crime. Which reflects Joel and Ellie's current situation.
Thanks for this Easter egg ... genius additon from Craig and Neil 😁
Matchstick Men is one of the most underrated Ridley Scott movies. And this might be the first time in my life that I've said the word "underrated"
If you’re still upset over the casting of Ellie after that episode then you’re just so wrong. She is Ellie through and through
I was really upset about her casting at first simply because of how different they look. But I knew her from GoT and expected her brash, swearing swagger and that is completely Ellie and she's done an amazing job.
I watched GoT so i knew before watching TLOU that she will be GREAT! There's no way around it :D
People were upset? Anyone who saw her acting when she killed the giant and actually played the game knows she’s the perfect actor for this. I’m surprised.
@@isaaclee3322 you missed all that? Omg some people are still raging over it although, to be fair, not as many as before it it aired. I read some horrible comments about her, people can be so stupid & nasty over things like this.
Everyone "upset" about casting choice for Ellie is a rancid pedo creep. These neckbeards did it back when the second game came out too, because they couldn't jack it to a 14 year old anymore.
I love these podcast episodes. They perfectly scratch the itch of wanting the next episode by adding depth and value to the one you just watched, making you feel all the more contented.
What a beautiful episode, every single Joel and Ellie moment was done to perfection, with excellent humor and emotional weight, and that's what it's all about. I honestly can't pick a fave scene, just all of them, Pedro and Bella are phenomenal. Next Sunday can't come soon enough!
Friday early ep because of superbowl
@@adastra6747 Fair enough if you disagree, but to me this is some of the most authentic and emotional dialogue between two people learning to care for each other and let their walls down in a brutal world, that I have ever seen. I mean with them laughing at the end? I felt that, it felt 100% genuine, like Pedro and Bella were actually just laughing at the joke, I don't see what's rushed here, maybe they say a line faster every now and then but that's gonna happen, because it's not Troy playing Joel or Ashley playing Ellie, not every single word is gonna sound the same, and for what it's worth, I think both of them have the mannerisms down quite well, and there have been plenty of times where I have been impressed at how much they both can express and say, especially Pedro, without saying anything at all.
@@adastra6747 i agree! I like them both as actors, but they feel mis-cast to me. Then again, who could live up to the performances of Troy and Ashley when we have grown so accustomed to them. I always pictured Hugh Jackman as the perfect Joel (think Prisoners). Ellie I have no idea who could have done, but Bella just seems wrong for some reason. The dialogue seems forced.
@The Last Mikester I feel they both play their parts very well and do have good chemistry, but I just can't see how anyone could say 'some of the most authentic and emotional dialogue...I've ever seen' at this early stage. Maybe you need to come at it having played the game but I genuinely feel like the story would've had to start with these two together to get anywhere near matching that profound statement only 4 episodes in. It feels to me like they've barely been together 5 minutes - with most of the story so far involving many other characters coming and going and subplots taking place. Am I missing something? Are they supposed to have been on the road for weeks/months or something? As I feel like I'm nowhere near yet truly caring for these characters when we don't know enough about them yet or have experienced enough of their plight and journey together. Walking Dead took many series for people to truly invest in the characters and their world, whereas 4 episodes in...(this one the first really of just the two of them) Maybe if I had played the game I would feel different but all feels a little rushed so far for me
@@DilbertWhitehead I think on some level there is merit to having already played the game as I have, as you get attached then, and the game has alot more time to do stuff, all the little moments that can be missed in the show. However, you don't need multiple seasons of a show to start caring about the characters lol, I think it says alot when a show can get you invested with only a few episodes. If it doesn't do that for you, then fair enough, maybe play the game and come back or wait till it's all out and judge against the first season of the Walking Dead, and see where you're at. I have seen alot of people who never played the game comment specifically about how invested they are so far, in both the characters and the world. By authentic and emotional dialogue, I'm referring to alot of the scenes between Joel and Ellie, but particularly the ending where they start laughing, in such a brutal world, you just don't hear laughter really, and who knows how long it's been since Joel has laughed, in my opinion it was a special moment that feels genuine, and not rushed at all, I think this moment has had some buildup, as so far, Joel and Ellie have been mostly exchanging insults and sarcastic remarks, and now they are laughing and enjoying something (a joke) together, and in that moment, the awkward tension and perhaps even animosity, is gone. It'll probably come back, and soon, but for now they just get to feel at least little happy. It shows a bond between two people who are starting to care about one another, not to mention the gun scene where Joel apologizes to Ellie because she had to shoot the guy, and he kinda awkwardly stumbles around sentences trying to make sure she's okay, it shows vulnerability and an effort at connecting with the other person, for both of them. And yeah, I don't think we are at the point yet where we look back and say wow what a journey, but that's kinda the point seeing as we aren't even halfway yet, so I guess we'll see how people feel at the end
Only HBO can deliver how good this series has been so far. This is definitely a classic in the making!
This may be the shortest podcast so far in length, but it feels like it has the most information packed into it. Somehow Neil and Craig managed to touch on every aspect of the show from technical details to writing choices made and character motivations. I can't imagine a question about this episode that went unaddressed or unanswered. Just to let you know, you have been completely successful in my case of going where you want to take me with the story and expanding on the game and its themes that makes it feel liken an experience separate from the game but still tightly connected.
Episode was really short too, especially for an HBO show
@@Obi-JuanCannoli Which is why the next episode wich will be about Henry and Sam is next Friday instead of Sunday.
@Kenneth Nielsen They did that to not have it release the same day as the superbowl
It was really subtle but when Joel was telling Elle “you will not get shot”the look on his face told everyone that he was really trying to convince himself she wouldn’t get shot because Sarah got shot and didn’t want that to happen again 😳
The last scene with them cracking up at the joke after surviving together was amazing
I don't think I'm ready for Henry and Sam, but already Joel and Ellie are connecting which is a beautiful thing Joel slowing opening up to her In such a Subtle way till the end wher he says he losing it And he is.
Seeing Ellie and Joel crack up near the end of the episode was the highlight of the episode for me. There were so many amazing moments (especially when they were in the bar, I teared up) but the night and day difference to how they interacted compared to the last episode just makes me super stoked to watch them grow closer over the course of the show. I’m so happy this game adaption is in wonderful hands
Really great episode as usual. I felt a bit weird about how quickly Joel was softening towards Ellie compared to the game, but then had to give myself the 'if you want the exact game dynamic then PLAY THE GAME' talk hahah. I put that aside and now can fully appreciate their relationship blossoming. Loved that last scene with the giggling
It's about pacing too, technically we are halfway into the season which would roughly be equal to 7 to 8 hours into the game! That's the magic of the games btw, the level design, difficulty, etc. make you feel like you have been through a lot together, plus some NPC dialogues to add details over a long course of time. Something like that cannot directly be translated into a tv show because it would be boring. However, there are time skips in tv shows. Like it makes sense that it's been a long time since Tess's death, hours worth of hike till Bill and Frank's, and then days' worth of driving together that is not really shown on the screen! So though it may seem like it's quick, it's not, there are definitely offscreen interactions and growth!
@@7heRequiem Excellent points! Totally agree
'if you want the exact game dynamic then PLAY THE GAME' point taken
I have so many favorite scenes on this episode. The thing that stands out most for me is the first time Ellie takes out the pun book, with the joke about the mermaid. She playfully stares at Joel and I could imagine the Jeopardy tune while she waits for answer.
Such a great show and the fact that he treats Ellie like she's mature is great. He doesn't correct her for cussing and being curious. Nor should he
Them laughing at the end reminded me of a piece of concept art of both of them laughing around a campfire.
we missed 99% of their journey (most of it was driving and horse riding) so we miss all the little moments
Henry and same are gonna break me. The winter scene is gonna break me. The end is gonna break me. I’m so excited
according to imdb, David is coming in episode 8. really that scene up to the ending with the fireflies and Marlene will all be brutal
Oh muh gawd i forgot about the guy voiced by nolan north😨 Nolan North is a true menace
I'm Not ready for Henry and Sam either 🥺
@@shadowproductions969 makes sense, david happens right before the ending.
Having not played the game and loving the series so far thank yall for being vague about Sam and henry i always want to be surprised i haven't seen trailers for the past episodes and this upcoming one!
One thing that disappointed me was when Ellie says ''are we going to help him?'' and Joel replies ''no''. In the game he replies ''he aint even hurt'' before flooring it. It was such a cool moment in the game atleast.
Yeah for sure
Yeah that was such a badass line.
See it as a remake.. instead, it goes better
That and they hit him with the truck!
I can’t wait to cry my eyes out next episode with Sam and Henry 👍
The Kansas City stuff is playing out a little like LOU2's WLF faction taking over Seattle. Since that seems like it's going to be a major thread of season 1, it's making me wonder if season 2 will really start departing from the game.
One obvious route is that they'll cover the years between LOU and LOU2 with more seasons. Almost has to go that way, because it would be hard to age Ellie 4 years in 1 year.
At moments I forget Bella isn’t the character I am used to. Once in awhile I will go, “I mean she doesn’t remind me of Ellie that much”, and then suddenly they put out another game scene that makes me go, “Damn she is Ellie tho!”
Got see Joel and Ellie connect with one another is fantastic. Can't wait for the episode on Friday.
don't you mean next sunday?
@@RandyReviews1990 yeah, he's confused
@@fearandsmokingLOL no he’s right. Episode 5 will be live this Friday because Sunday is the Super Bowl. Afterwards it’ll resume to every Sunday.
I wish it was on Friday because of that Cliffhanger..im still mad, that im going to have to wait till Sunday to see who's those 2 people are at the end.. Think I have an idea since I was kinda scrolling thru the comments like a idiot but couldn't help my self.
@@fearandsmoking no hes not lmao. its coming out friday for next episode because super bowl is sunday.
Wonderful job Troy. This podcast is a must listen companion to the show.
That final statement from Craig gave me chills
Do you think he's referencing season 2..? or suprises for the fans of the game for season 1 ...?
@@thehoopman88 he said between now and the final episode
Yep, that's the beauty of it . If you played the game you cannot be sure what next events will bring. And I don't mind changing stuff as long as they got right impact on viewer.
Bryan reminds me of the "enemies" from part 2. Begging and feels more human.
I'm so glad they've said there's going to be deviations from the games plot line, I've seen so many ignorant comments from people mad that they aren't following the game verbatim
If I want to experience the games storyline I'll just replay it. I WANT some variety in this new medium while sticking to the overall spirit of the games and so far they have walked that tightrope perfectly
"Here, Have i satisfied the necessary conditions for you to talk"👏👏👏
Give Melanie Lynskey another emmy Nod Please.
Not a gamer and not familiar at all with this one, but I'm loving the series. The storytellers get that it is always, always characters and relationships that are critical to even the most riveting plot. I love these peeks behind the curtain, which add to my appreciation of how delicately nuanced this story of violence and love really is. It is, to cadge a phrase from another context altogether, brutally gorgeous.
I love that we get these podcasts aswell
The original cast won't be beat. The game version was already perfect. That being said, the HBO show and actors have done amazing so far. I just hope they continue to do so.
Same I'm loving the show it's wonderful and Pedro and Bella are doing a great job. But the games and the original actors will always hold a special place in my heart never will be topped.
For them to be beaten means there is competition. I don't get why people constantly have to have some competition. Game people also worked on this show. Loving one thing doesn't mean you can't love another with the same passion.
Same I agree here
Just embrace that they're 2 different experiences. If you prefer the games great, but this can also be great.
Original cast is definitely goated IMO but I was SHOCKED by how well Pedro and Bella captured Ellie and Joel it's pretty wild
why are the short episodes always so good :( I wish it was 1 hour 20 minutes long
Next episode is 1hr 10 mins not excluding ads
It's starting to look like a trend. 1st ep was long, then short etc etc. Let's see if it'll continue
Because this episode didn’t have an agenda to push!
@123risekenny agenda?? 💀😭 what do you mean bruh.. the 1st episode was 1hr 20 mins long and was completely normal?? huh
@@123risekenny None of the episodes pushed any agendas.
I have played this game over and over. My absolute favorite game ever. Craig and Neil are adding so much more to this world! This last episode was absolutely amazing! The depth that they are taking us is outstanding and the scene in the truck was such a great homage to the game. Thank you for making this show so amazing and giving us so much more depth to the story. Thank you both for your vision and execution of this great franchise.
The change from Pittsburgh to Kansas City being almost purely a superficial one because they couldn’t shoot somewhere that looked like Pittsburgh makes a lot of sense
Can’t wait to see what happens with Henry and Sam in the next episode. I also can’t wait to see what happens with that bloater
they gone be gay to?
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I'm thinking Sam will get bitten which will cause Henry to sacrifice himself to a hoard of infected while Joel and Ellie escape
That kid with the gun. I see a bright future ahead of him.
@@cavitycreep They're brothers, but not Alabamans.
love this episode tommy did pretty good in this episode love I hope he comes back next Sunday episode 5 Joel and Ellie killed it
The earlier bonding was needed to help sell the later "treading on thin ice" scene, which aways felt a bit unearned/rushed in the game, cause Joel for the most part kept a lot more distance from Ellie. There's a night and day difference between game Joel disregarding Ellie saving her, to HBO Joel feeling bad about her having to shoot and teaching her how to handle guns. Plus the laughing we never got in the game.
Bryan: "we're not fighting anymore!" how fking convenient... LOL. They weren't so 'human' when they tried to ambush Joel and Ellie. They didn't even try to negotiate, talk, bargain, nothing. It was an act and trap from the start and then they tried to kill Joel and Ellie as soon as they knew that Joel knew.
That's is why that scene did nothing to me, if someone try to kill you , you kill them right back. That's it.
Enemies in the game are actually also being humanized. After you kill them, their colleagues are going to be calling them by their first names for you to feel that the guy you've just headshotted also has a life and family.
they didnt say that they werent in the game. And the name calling was only introduced in part 2 and then put into the part 1 remake so its not actually in the original version of the first game or the remaster. The hunters in the game arent as humanised as they are here in the show , but still yeah the games do humanise the enemies cos thats just apart of the dna of the last of us so of course they were going to expand upon it and make it more deep in the tv show like how part 2 does it in a deeper way
The only thing I can complain about this episode was the fact that Joel did not say the famous line "He ain't even hurt". It made Joel so dangerous and cold-blooded, I was really hoping they'd bring that in. Otherwise, the episode was a 10/10, loved witnessing the exact conversations from the game and, see there, low and behold, I finally managed to accept Bella as Ellie at the beginning of the episode O_O
He did later, though. In the scene at the stairs, when Ellie asked how did he know.
Well Joel killed the guy who was begging for his life
They have had so many lines just like the game I'm really surprised out of all of them, that's one they changed
I agree that line was badass
I said “he ain’t even hurt” in Joel’s voice to my wife during that scene 😅
My favorite par was when Joel stopped and looked at the cameras and said “there’s a fungus among us” best scene by far, amazing show
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How people find these jokes funny is beyond me
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@@gal.mp4 bro its the other way round. So sorry im not a sheep and think autistic internet trends are funny. Imagine defending a joke as autisitc and unfunny as this , you need to touch some grass and delete social media goofy
@@anonymous4k4k They aren't parentless, cheers.
This show is so good, it drives me crazy that I can’t spend more time talking about it with people haha
This show just continues to impress! The episodes seem so short, I don't want them to end. Thank you for giving us a faithful and masterful adaptation. I believe I can speak for a lot when I say, we appreciate it!!
They are totally building to the end of Riley and Ellie... and worse we're gonna SEE it this time. that's gonna be soulcrushing.
i never played the game so i have no idea what youre talking about lol but iam look forward to whatever is going to happen loved this episode and this show!
I wonder if Ellie's going to have to shoot Riley in the show. She'll still be lucid while it's clear that Riley is turning. Riley might even get a chance to realize what's happening.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think Ellie is referring to Riley when she said it wasn't her first time shooting someone, meaning Riley turned and Ellie had to shoot her. If that's the case, I just know I'm gonna need a box of tissues during that episode.
@@RandyReviews1990 you should stay out of comments if you haven't seen the game lol gonna end up getting things spoiled
Next episode should be great though, enjoy
@@chriswithey2393 it'd be an interesting twist, cause in the game the whole point was ellie and riley just accepting their fate and letting themselves turn.
Hearing them say that Ellie is obsessed with guns because of a traumatic and lifechanging violence that affected her (the bite) and her notion that a gun could have saved her is actually so heartbreaking. Like, of course that's it. Damn. That hurts
I love the way things are going in the show.
I have played and watched the game so many times (100+ is no exaggeration). Excited to hear there will be more surprises to come.
The Pun Book 🤗 Joel's reaction when Ellie tells the 1st joke... I read his look as 'Ok, this is hitting way too close to home.'
And I love that he laughed at the last joke. I laughed so much... plus it's one of the best jokes from the Pun Book.
The pirate joke better be in the show 😏
Thanks, Troy! Thanks, Craig! Thanks, Neil! 🎙 #HBOMax #TheLastOfUs #TLOU #TheLastOfUsHBO
Really loved the familiar aspects of the game being referenced to in this episode. Had me smiling until it ran through me jeans, lol. Every episode so far has been a consistent and beautiful master piece!
Melanie Lynskey is an amazing actress, but she really seems like a weird casting choice for Kathleen. The character really doesn't look hardened by her surroundings and doesn't seem to fit her group, specially as a leader. I supposed there’s a reason behind it, which will be eventually addressed.
Other than that, a great episode. Very reminiscent of the game. The banter between Ellie and Joel was awesome.
It was great seeing Joel and Ellie laughing together
I've played the first game all the way through 26 times. The next episodes and the episode with David is going to hurt on an epic level.
Incredible episode as per!! I found the bit where joel kills that young boy really hard to liaten to, his fear was so real and his screams for his mom were heartbreaking. Wasn't a fan of how emotional joel got and his speech about how its not fair for Ellie to shoot someone to then give her a gun 10 seconds later.
I'm having so much fun with this series! Already looking forward to the next episode.
It’s about time we got some Kansas Citian (Missouri, not the Kansas side) representation in media. Seeing I-45 and Worlds of Fun was a really cool interesting detail to!
I'm amazed at how often Neil remembers to give context for people who haven't played the game. As a game developer, the mechanics of the game are even more old hat to him than they should be to Craig Mazin and Troy Baker, yet he's the one who remembers to clarify the things that people who only watched the show might be confused by
I thought the episode was good, but they could have at least give it 15 more minutes, showing a little more action. That ambush scene from the game, was one of the most iconic scenes from The Last Of Us. It was a little slow in places. And yea that new Kathrine lady does remind me of school teacher, or nurse.
But I still like how they humanize the enemies, and that is way more realistic than the first game. And in the game you were facing raider after raider without a leader! And you mean to tell me that one dude from Wyoming got an Army of raiders in Kansas as well? Yea that was not realistic for the games, so humanizing enemies is a great idea.
3 things (and I don’t know if they read these comments but probably not)
1) my head canon for what happened between Ellie and Riley is that JUST LIKE THE EMT said in her recording, Ellie LEFT BEHIND Riley (but unlike the EMT never came back). Couldn’t bring herself to shoot her. Which hits twice as hard when you know her biggest fear is being left and yet she did it to her friend. This is backed up by the second game where she says the first person she killed (non-infected) was that dude. Meaning either Riley was already infected or she left her while she was turning and ran from her.
2) Bryan (can NEVER trust Bryan’s with Ys) struck me as somebody with crocodile tears. I didn’t believe for a second he would let us go or that he was sorry for trying to rob from us or that he thought we “were good”. He was selfishly trying to get his way out of it. Which does 2 things: for the inexperienced (Ellie/new watchers) you think “wow…he’s human” for Joel (people who played) “wow…look at this wolf in sheep’s clothes. Look at this MONSTER”. I thought he was less human because of what he said because he’s stealing what probably dozens of others said to HIM hoping that enough time passes where his buddy can shoot Joel in the back. I saw it as a foil to this scene 20:19 later on in the episode, with her saying all the same things I imagine Joel was thinking.
3) I always assume when Joel yelled at Ellie in the game it wasn’t insensitive but the opposite. He was trying to shock her out of the spiral she was slipping in and into anger. When things calmed down he did apologize and rather well I might add
Kathleen being the leader doesn't make any sence unless she was the strategic genius behind taking down FEDRA. She doesn't have the characteristics of a boss lady like Marlene, she's more like a manager who took the job for good pay. I hope they have a good explanation for why everyone respects her.
I was always pretty sure the show would be good, but never would I have anticipated it to be THAT good. Kudos
Best episodes in order so far. 2,1,4 then 3.
4 for 4. Show is great so far.
It's kind of funny and ironic how in the woods they were safe but joel felt the need to stand guard. However in the building they were in danger yet he could fall asleep. Thinking about it actually makes sense and I assume most of us would feel more vulnerable in the woods the same way. If you think a little harder though one could argue that being surrounded by doors and walls makes you less susceptible to hearing movement approaching. I understand that is why he scattered the glass but it didn't work out. In the woods you see everything around you and hear every little twig break not to mention in the middle of nowhere so why don't we feel safe. I guess its just the paranoia of being out in the open.
Another fantastic ep. Pedro and Bella ARE Joel and Ellie. Next episode looks even crazier
A second season!!! YESSSSSS
I really love these pods, they are amazing!
The good: Joel and Ellie keep bonding in believable and charming ways.
The bad: The hunters aren’t scary. A bit of thing for Druckmann but you don’t need to humanize every villain. Here it takes away from the fear factor. They were the survival of the fittest types in the game. In the tv show we get a sobbing kid and a middle aged lady with kindergarten teacher vibes. The original Tommy plays the gruff military guy, he’s solid at least.
Yeah I was pretty disappointed with the ambush scene. It’s a really memorable encounter in the game and I don’t think it was done well here at all. I’m not expecting to see Joel beast 10 dudes like he would in the game but when you compare it to the outbreak in Ep 1 and the clicker encounter in Ep 2, which felt like intense fights for survival, the firefight here felt really flat.
Still, it’s the first time I’ve felt disappointed by something in the series so far so not the end of the world.
Idk I still thought they were pretty scary
The actor who played Brian needs some sort of award really.
I would love to see some flashbacks of Joel and Tommy's early days with that group and meeting Tess.
Great episode them humanizing the hunters was vary fascinating
vary fascinating
Vary fascinating
Very fascinating when Neil druckman humanizes the muscular character Abby when she'll bash pedro pescals character w a golf club
Get over it.
@Officer Spooder will Joel did kill her dad.. everybody is the hero in their own story and the villain in someone else's
The saving of Joel so early on really works. Makes me wonder now more than ever if Joel wanted to die. Let go. It's too much for him to blow it again. Sarah. Tess... He wants to go before getting attached. Joel could've taken Bryan. But he's too scared of facing down his mistakes. He wants to let go. But once Ellie fires he falls for her. "Shes just like me." Boom now he's invested. How absolutely well done. I thought the show would pale in comparison. Its much richer and dense than the game!! Great stuff y'all. Please just do Pedro some justice come pt 2 😁
I live in Pittsburgh. I’m sad they skipped us. Like always. Always New York or Philly
From first to the end..every episode is awesome
When Ellie says it's not her first time I bet she's talking about Riley
loved this episode and this show it was kind of short but it didn't need to be overly long the pasting of this show is amazing every episode has been a hit for me!
I kept hitting triangle for those dad jokes.
I am soooo happy!!!! This episode, the whole season!! So far Omg!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I'm so glad this worked the way that it did to reach Craig and that the union of Creig, Neil and HBO its pure *chefs kiss*
We got the puns, we got the magazine, we got the character growth, and even tho we changed cities the whole sets look perfect as the game. The addition of the character of Kathleen is soo good. This was such an amazing episode. Each week it's a win!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️ Thank you!!!
The puns had me dying I loved when Joel couldn't hold it in ugh so so so good!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️😭 I love this story so much and seeing portrayed in such a beautiful way on a TV series medium!!!! ❤️😭 My heart is so full. Also I'm afraid of Craig bc he's done so good with this season (I'm sure the rest will be as good) so I'm already afraid for s2! 🤣😭❤️This is going to be AWESOME! 👏🏽 THANK YOU once more!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
These episodes are too short! This could have been so much longer. I don't want to rush through this!
Craig seems violently passionate.
I don’t think you know what narcissism is… being frustrated that you brother is in jail is something else
Belo episódio, detalhes fiéis ao jogo, Ellie e Joel brilhantes. O melhor episódio até agora, que série maravilhosa!