@Meatball554 I am really late to this comment, but you should NOT do that !! No matter how cool of a party trick it is, you might do permanent damage to your joints over time, which can potentially lead to chronic pain when you are older
The bending back one is the normal. Only if you can bend them 90 degrees or more then it counts as hypermobility, according to the beighton scale which diagnoses joint hypermobility. Also 20% of the population is hypermobile in some joints, so as long as they are not unstable or causing pain, you are probably fine!
Please people if you experience any pain with your HSD, don't overextend to show off or just to prove you are flexible! You'll end up like me with severe osteoarthritis beofre 40. I really wish I hadn't shown off so much as a kid and I was encouraged to do ballet moves and be super flexible in color guard and such. I really regret it as my joints are way more advanced than my age and I'll likely need a hip or knee replacement or both by the time I'm 50. Every overextension you do is like 2-3 times the normal wear and tear on your oints so you are going to realy feel it years down the road. Take it from someone who is 38 with osteoarthritis due to HSD!
I was brought into the school doctor's office at age 4 and diagnosed with having "loose hand joints" - they said I would grow out of it... I did not, I'm 25 now, and it hurts 😭 Thanks for this video, I needed the confirmation
I was diagnosed at 34 years old w/ EDS after many years of pain & discomfort & feeling so unheard. I am so grateful I know the cause of all of my symptoms. Apparently my party tricks weren’t exactly a normal thing after all these years 😂😂🥴🥴
@@priyanshuraj2441 I have always had joint pain in my knees, elbows, fingers, etc. I’ve had arrhythmias & hyperhidrosis. My knees have been swollen & painful on & off since childhood. I’ve had issues w/ my fingers bending out of place & dislocating. I’ve had terrible spine pain and had to have a spinal fusion at 4 levels due to disc degeneration which is a result of my EDS. Pregnancy was terribly painful for me because of the joint laxity. I also had a placental abruption and went in for an emergency c-section. I lost a great amount of blood. I developed pseudo tumor cerebri as well during my pregnancy which I later found out can happen in people with EDS. I’ve had chronic migraines & fatigue my entire life. I can distinctly remember feeling weak, achey, & tired as a child & being unable to keep up with my peers. The list could go on and on but this is just some of what I have had to deal with in my 36 years of life. The worst part of it all was the not knowing exactly what was wrong with me & no one knowing how to help me. I suffered greatly for many years until I was referred to the right doctor who is still currently treating me.
I am hypermobile in my arms from my shoulders to fingertips, and suspect that I *could* have EDS. To date, I don't think I've had any issues with my hypermobility to pursue whether or not it is anything deeper than just that, since you can have hypermobility without EDS. My doctor is good at listening to me, but I worry that if I go into an appointment announcing that I think I might have EDS, I will be blown off. Tips?
I have all these, especially the "pushing" fingers backwards but without the pushing. I just have to "straighten" my fingers and they go past 2/3 of the way to 90°... BUT when you get tested they just look if the pinky bends 90°, one of mine's has a deformity so I can't straighten the whole pinky but the first part of the finger does bend 90° (I don't understand why they don't take into account my deformity) AND they test if you can touch your forearm with your thumb, which I cannot that 😮💨 so annoying
One time when I was in high school, I was hanging out with friends and they got so grossed out because they casually discovered my "double-jointedness". I was leaning up against the back of a couch with my fingers flat and bending backwards at the base joint, a totally normal feeling/position for me, but completely off-putting to them. They actually asked me to stop. 😂
There's an amazing doctor in Rhode Island who does both real life and virtual appointments for special conditions like EDS. He's really skilled, such a great physician, he diagnosed me through a screen when tons of doctors couldn't even in person ❤
@hevvybizzle5797 Oh yeah I dont mind at all! His name is Dr. Pradeep Chopra, and he is a physician in Rhode Island. He is able to do virtual appointments, let me know if you want to know some more :)
UGH THE WRIST POPPING OUT 😭😭😭 It doesn't hurt but it makes me think mg hand is going to come off at the wrist when I'm walking my dog or carrying in the groceries 😢 I have all the other symptoms plus double jointed thumbs. Can bend them behind the back of my hand. Freaks people out.
I have all of this but my doctor (who admits having not enough knowledge of EDS) told me these are not signs of hypermobility, I am so confused 😣. It's so hard to find specialist who get these symptoms.
If you live in the U.S, there's a great doctor in Rhode Island who can do virtual appointments and not just in real life. He's amazing and really skilled, he diagnosed me through a screen when tons of doctors couldn't even in person! :)
lol mine touch the back of my hand when I push. I have Ehlers Danlos but i literally can’t believe I found out in my early 20s. I’ve known about it now for a decade but still it was so freaking obvious
I was given a mini-assessment by the "expert" on EDS in the area, and he said I don't qualify even though I meet so many criteria. He also incorrectly answered questions in the checklist of symptoms in my chart, so I don't trust his judgement, but dont know where else to go/what to do. 😢
how do you know if it is subluxing? i keep trying to google what it looks like and can't find anything but my left thumb can like jut in towards my palm and i don't know anyone else in my life whose thumb does that (my right can too but not as much)
i noticed that the tip of ur fingers bend more depending on how much u use them, for example i used to play pc games so my left hand is not only more flexible than my dominant right hand, but they can bend more
i mean i know i have EDS and my entire hands are fucked but i had no idea normal peoples fingers don’t bend back AT ALL? like i thought they did a little bit at least? but i guess not??
I have joint hypermobility. I thought it was mostly in my knees and hips (feet able to turn backward, able to touch soles of my feet to my forehead, etc), but more and more i"m noticing osteoarthritis in my hands caused by the hypermobility...I have all of the signs you mentioned plus more, like bending my hnand to touch the side of my thumb to my forearm and my wrists definitely pop all the time especially when I twist it with my hand in a claw shape...I need tips on reducing or reversing osteoarthritis...I"m not even 40 and I've had arthritis since I was 18 and it's starting to get worse...finger joints are much bigger, hips have to be adjusted every day just to not scream...help!
My chiropractor has helped immensely with the screaming hip pain. He's not a "crack your bones" chiro. He's more holistic / works with energy. That's the only way I can function.. I haven't been back to him in months because he got me to a good equilibrium. 🙏🏻
My hypermobility goes way beyond just the hands ..my shoulder are are even worse. .sometimes if i throw a lets say a ball..my shoulder can dislocate from the force genereted by throwing
I always thought this was normal because it was in my family. Just yesterday I had the opportunity for the first time to see someone with I guess normal hand flexibility and they could not bend their fingers backwards from vertical!!! Mind blown!!! I’m 43.
double jointedness doesn't exist in the sense of there being an increased number of joints. It's just a badly worded colloquialism for a hypermobile joint
Yes. Double jointed just means your joint is loose / weak. I have "double jointed" thumbs. Turns out I just have EDS 😮💨 I also bruise easily, and my kneecaps pop out. So it all makes sense now... EDS
I thought bending my fingers back was normal and I fidget by cracking my knuckles like that all the time noooooo 😢😢😢😢 Im gonna stop because I'm an artist and I want to use my hands for a long time
If your hypermobility comes with joint pain, training to overextend further is not a good idea. Trust me...I was encouraged to be flexible as a kid and I have had osteeoarthritis since I was 18 or so and now my joints feel like that of someone twice my age. Save your joints, don't overextend if you can help it!
One of my finger tips literally looks backwards bc the knuckle is so hyper mobile 😂 how did no one know. I love these videos I wish I had them in highschool or younger 🫂❤️🔥
Wait other peoples fingers can’t bend back at like a 90 degree angle. Like I know I’m hypermobile but I’m still realizing what things normal people can’t do
Hypermobile people's muscles and ligaments pull different so the joint shifts. They don't have to be doing a whole lot for it to happen and sometimes results in bad injuries.
I THOUGHT ALL OF THIS WAS NORMAL but my hands feel so weird and stiff with an ache at the base of my thumbs all the time and I don't know what to do
Omg same!! My thumbs can bend down super long ….
I can pop my thumb out of place
On demand
@@Meatball554same
@Meatball554 I am really late to this comment, but you should NOT do that !! No matter how cool of a party trick it is, you might do permanent damage to your joints over time, which can potentially lead to chronic pain when you are older
I had no idea being able to bend my fingers backwards was hypermobility, I thought that was normal 😭
I can personally bend them by 90 degrees
I didn't know but i can ben all my fingers about more than 110° and my thumbs i can bend them till they touch my skin and honestly it feels normal
The bending back one is the normal. Only if you can bend them 90 degrees or more then it counts as hypermobility, according to the beighton scale which diagnoses joint hypermobility. Also 20% of the population is hypermobile in some joints, so as long as they are not unstable or causing pain, you are probably fine!
Mine go about 90 degrees
Same 😭
Please people if you experience any pain with your HSD, don't overextend to show off or just to prove you are flexible! You'll end up like me with severe osteoarthritis beofre 40. I really wish I hadn't shown off so much as a kid and I was encouraged to do ballet moves and be super flexible in color guard and such. I really regret it as my joints are way more advanced than my age and I'll likely need a hip or knee replacement or both by the time I'm 50. Every overextension you do is like 2-3 times the normal wear and tear on your oints so you are going to realy feel it years down the road. Take it from someone who is 38 with osteoarthritis due to HSD!
I was brought into the school doctor's office at age 4 and diagnosed with having "loose hand joints" - they said I would grow out of it... I did not, I'm 25 now, and it hurts 😭 Thanks for this video, I needed the confirmation
I thought this was normal 😭 definitely explains why I get so frustrated on piano sometimes since if I play too aggressively my fingers easily do this.
Thank you so much. I never knew that this was a thing. My hands do all of these things.
I was diagnosed at 34 years old w/ EDS after many years of pain & discomfort & feeling so unheard. I am so grateful I know the cause of all of my symptoms. Apparently my party tricks weren’t exactly a normal thing after all these years 😂😂🥴🥴
Yes 😔, yes.
What kinds of pains you faced can you elaborate
@@priyanshuraj2441 I have always had joint pain in my knees, elbows, fingers, etc. I’ve had arrhythmias & hyperhidrosis. My knees have been swollen & painful on & off since childhood. I’ve had issues w/ my fingers bending out of place & dislocating. I’ve had terrible spine pain and had to have a spinal fusion at 4 levels due to disc degeneration which is a result of my EDS. Pregnancy was terribly painful for me because of the joint laxity. I also had a placental abruption and went in for an emergency c-section. I lost a great amount of blood. I developed pseudo tumor cerebri as well during my pregnancy which I later found out can happen in people with EDS. I’ve had chronic migraines & fatigue my entire life. I can distinctly remember feeling weak, achey, & tired as a child & being unable to keep up with my peers. The list could go on and on but this is just some of what I have had to deal with in my 36 years of life. The worst part of it all was the not knowing exactly what was wrong with me & no one knowing how to help me. I suffered greatly for many years until I was referred to the right doctor who is still currently treating me.
I am hypermobile in my arms from my shoulders to fingertips, and suspect that I *could* have EDS. To date, I don't think I've had any issues with my hypermobility to pursue whether or not it is anything deeper than just that, since you can have hypermobility without EDS. My doctor is good at listening to me, but I worry that if I go into an appointment announcing that I think I might have EDS, I will be blown off. Tips?
I have all of that with both of my hands ever since I was a kid and I thought everybody could do that
the fact i have all of these except the wrist thing😭😭 my knees also bend a little too much and i can bend my thumb over the back of my palm
I have all these, especially the "pushing" fingers backwards but without the pushing. I just have to "straighten" my fingers and they go past 2/3 of the way to 90°... BUT when you get tested they just look if the pinky bends 90°, one of mine's has a deformity so I can't straighten the whole pinky but the first part of the finger does bend 90° (I don't understand why they don't take into account my deformity) AND they test if you can touch your forearm with your thumb, which I cannot that 😮💨 so annoying
One time when I was in high school, I was hanging out with friends and they got so grossed out because they casually discovered my "double-jointedness". I was leaning up against the back of a couch with my fingers flat and bending backwards at the base joint, a totally normal feeling/position for me, but completely off-putting to them. They actually asked me to stop. 😂
There's an amazing doctor in Rhode Island who does both real life and virtual appointments for special conditions like EDS. He's really skilled, such a great physician, he diagnosed me through a screen when tons of doctors couldn't even in person ❤
Would you mind giving me his details if possible please?
@hevvybizzle5797 Oh yeah I dont mind at all! His name is Dr. Pradeep Chopra, and he is a physician in Rhode Island. He is able to do virtual appointments, let me know if you want to know some more :)
UGH THE WRIST POPPING OUT 😭😭😭 It doesn't hurt but it makes me think mg hand is going to come off at the wrist when I'm walking my dog or carrying in the groceries 😢
I have all the other symptoms plus double jointed thumbs. Can bend them behind the back of my hand. Freaks people out.
Do you have tips to prevent pain with hypermobility in your hands cause i have that but have hobbies where i use my hands a lot
Same question here!
I have all of this but my doctor (who admits having not enough knowledge of EDS) told me these are not signs of hypermobility, I am so confused 😣. It's so hard to find specialist who get these symptoms.
If you live in the U.S, there's a great doctor in Rhode Island who can do virtual appointments and not just in real life. He's amazing and really skilled, he diagnosed me through a screen when tons of doctors couldn't even in person! :)
my fingers are extremely hypermobile. it gets in the way of a lot of things so i hate it. its not painful at all though.
I've been developing a lot of pain in my hands lately... I've suspected eds for a while... I'm definitely at least hypermobilie 😅
lol mine touch the back of my hand when I push. I have Ehlers Danlos but i literally can’t believe I found out in my early 20s. I’ve known about it now for a decade but still it was so freaking obvious
If you feel pain then you’re hypermobile.
Wait!! So you are telling me... normally people CAN'T do them???
I was given a mini-assessment by the "expert" on EDS in the area, and he said I don't qualify even though I meet so many criteria. He also incorrectly answered questions in the checklist of symptoms in my chart, so I don't trust his judgement, but dont know where else to go/what to do. 😢
I have no thumb pain but i can completely subluxate it from the joint cavity lmao💀
how do you know if it is subluxing? i keep trying to google what it looks like and can't find anything but my left thumb can like jut in towards my palm and i don't know anyone else in my life whose thumb does that (my right can too but not as much)
Do you have a video on how to measure your fingers for the oval rings and mcp ones?
I knew I didn’t sprain my wrist just by touching a box 💀
My wrists sublux when I go into radial or ulnar deviations. I can feel it shift down so annoying
I have 2 and 4 except first and third one is that making problems for me sort or not to panic?
No reason to panic, 20% of the population is hypermobile in at least one joint, it doesn’t mean anything
do i have to go to a clinic to check this out?
All of these. I was just diagnosed. Both wrists do this daily now 😢
I don’t even have to push my fingers back👀
Me neither
So it's not normal for your fingers to bend back at a 90° angle...? (The first one)
i noticed that the tip of ur fingers bend more depending on how much u use them, for example i used to play pc games so my left hand is not only more flexible than my dominant right hand, but they can bend more
Everytime i like bend my ankle, (just normal walking) they make a click/pop sound.. I’ve had it for years, and still done know what it is..
i mean i know i have EDS and my entire hands are fucked but i had no idea normal peoples fingers don’t bend back AT ALL? like i thought they did a little bit at least? but i guess not??
Except for the thumb collapsing, growing up I thought everyone’s fingers could do this. To me it’s weird other people’s fingers can’t
I can touch all the fingers and tumb of my hand to back of my hand naturally :)
Read the rest of the comments, apparently showinf people how we can do cool things with our hands will eventually turn into arthritis 😢😨
I have joint hypermobility. I thought it was mostly in my knees and hips (feet able to turn backward, able to touch soles of my feet to my forehead, etc), but more and more i"m noticing osteoarthritis in my hands caused by the hypermobility...I have all of the signs you mentioned plus more, like bending my hnand to touch the side of my thumb to my forearm and my wrists definitely pop all the time especially when I twist it with my hand in a claw shape...I need tips on reducing or reversing osteoarthritis...I"m not even 40 and I've had arthritis since I was 18 and it's starting to get worse...finger joints are much bigger, hips have to be adjusted every day just to not scream...help!
My chiropractor has helped immensely with the screaming hip pain. He's not a "crack your bones" chiro. He's more holistic / works with energy. That's the only way I can function.. I haven't been back to him in months because he got me to a good equilibrium. 🙏🏻
my wrists and shoulders do that popping thing omg i thought it was just me
I have all of these symptoms, my fingers bend straight back.
I have a problem i can’t bend my hand and also my fingers and my hand is a little bigger than my left hand
My hypermobility goes way beyond just the hands ..my shoulder are are even worse. .sometimes if i throw a lets say a ball..my shoulder can dislocate from the force genereted by throwing
When I spin my wrist it makes a sound
All what you said was my case😂
My fingers goes 90° backwards
I have all😅
It feels like clicking. I literally have that pain. (Wrist)
I always thought this was normal because it was in my family. Just yesterday I had the opportunity for the first time to see someone with I guess normal hand flexibility and they could not bend their fingers backwards from vertical!!! Mind blown!!! I’m 43.
My fingers go all the way to the back of my hand
Youre telling me my thumbs arent double jointed theyre just hyper mobile-.
double jointedness doesn't exist in the sense of there being an increased number of joints. It's just a badly worded colloquialism for a hypermobile joint
Yes. Double jointed just means your joint is loose / weak. I have "double jointed" thumbs. Turns out I just have EDS 😮💨
I also bruise easily, and my kneecaps pop out. So it all makes sense now... EDS
I don’t gotta push at all 😅
Yes!
I thought bending my fingers back was normal and I fidget by cracking my knuckles like that all the time noooooo 😢😢😢😢 Im gonna stop because I'm an artist and I want to use my hands for a long time
That god damn pisiform bone
Is it normal if u can like pop ur fingers like when I crunch it like I’m about to clench is it normal
Me, having all those things: oops-
I thought this was normal-💀
Bruh me too and i am scared shitless rn
I thought it was something good but these arthritis comments are scaring me
Ok why I thought all those were just normal🗿
Please have Abit more easier ways for some of us and it's kinda hard to do!😢
wait i can bend my finger most of the way back 💀💀
Oh wow… my wrist pop like that and my finger joints can pop in and out… I never knew I might be hyper mobile
How to cure it. And also my thumb after writing the skin becomes so soft and sort of is pushed inside and it becomes sensitive
my middle finger can point the same direction as my forearm does. I want to train to touch my thumb to forearm.
If your hypermobility comes with joint pain, training to overextend further is not a good idea. Trust me...I was encouraged to be flexible as a kid and I have had osteeoarthritis since I was 18 or so and now my joints feel like that of someone twice my age. Save your joints, don't overextend if you can help it!
Nahh i have hypermobility and my wrist pop so much
One of my finger tips literally looks backwards bc the knuckle is so hyper mobile 😂 how did no one know. I love these videos I wish I had them in highschool or younger 🫂❤️🔥
So i guess i have the most flexible hand to ever exist. I can bend ALL of my fingers backward 90 degrees, including the tip of my thumb
When i move my wrist up an down there is always a popping sound now is this bad or is this good
Is it normal?
Haha😅 hEDS girlie and my fingers do all of this
I have hypermobile hands and knees
YOOO I THOUGHT ITS NORMAL THAT I HAD IT
The thumb part, it can only go down a little bit😅
I have hyper mobility syndrome
Wait other peoples fingers can’t bend back at like a 90 degree angle. Like I know I’m hypermobile but I’m still realizing what things normal people can’t do
Smh I thought I had arthritis or something. 😅
I can touch the back of my hand with the fingers of that hand.. I have freaked out a few people..
I have all of them
Im so sorry
Subluxation due to what?
Hypermobile people's muscles and ligaments pull different so the joint shifts. They don't have to be doing a whole lot for it to happen and sometimes results in bad injuries.
I can do all of these things
Apparently I do😎
wait a minute.
Research: "Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and the carnivore diet"
There are testimonies of people overcoming EDS through diet.
M wrist pop
I have it
I can do all of them I’m just a kid I’m 9
Hey i can touch my fingures backside 💀 can anyone do it ever seen that?
how to fix this?