OB336: Air Force One, Possible Pilot Deviation

Episode 336 Show Notes

Topic of the show: Brashering Air Force 1: On this week’s show, AG and RH discuss what would happen if Air Force One didn’t follow ATC instructions. Would we issue a brasher warning? Why is this different than any other airplane? We also discuss IFR filing tricks and tips, foreign airspace altimeter settings, and our advice for preparing for intersection departures. This is a fun episode and you don’t want to miss it!

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2. Patron WTF delves into the world of FRC hacks
3. Patron EW flew the Hudson skyline tour!

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2. Patron SG has intersection departure questions
3. Patron WTF drops knowledge on Transition Altitudes and Levels
4. Patron KK shares a story about a recent flight with accompanying question.

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I fly GA out of a fairly busy class C and get intersection departures all the time, as a matter of fact I don't think I have ever been given a full length departure. This happens while larger jets are using full length, if spacing for wake turbulence is an issue I will get a "line up and wait" direction. If I were given full length clearance from ground the poor people waiting behind me would be waiting forever while I peddled as fast as I could to clear the runway after takeoff. There is construction going on at the airport at the moment and when required the tower controllers are offering back taxing to passenger jets to use the full runway if required. I have never waited 40 minutes at a hold short point so maybe my airport is not as busy as the one from the questioner. I get clearance from ground to cross a cross wind runway all the time, I am getting that clearance from ground well before I talk to the tower. For example "taxi via Alpha cross 32, to foxtrot..." . I don't contact tower until I am at a hold short point at the departure runway. That being said, we use the cross wind runway from time to time to land and I always ask the tower if I have clearance to cross the more active runway before we cross even though we were given clearance to land on that crosswind runway, the airport is laid out in such a way that I am on the ground and taxing well before I have to cross that active runway. It seems the controllers assume we are just going to keep taxing on the runway and most of the time do not contact us prior to the runway intersection and to be honest it always makes me a little nervous. Most of the times the controllers just say we have clearance without an issue when we contact them, there is one particular controller that sounds annoyed by this but I don't really care. Better to annoy an unhappy controller than to get run over by a 757.