You guys are the best at what you do. Your reviews are spot on and really help your audience decide which products to purchase. Thanks for the great work.
Des is definitely not....his Galaxy Ultra review was just a bunch of "much improved" bs ...while Samsung are still putting out terrible watches... search for Scientific Review and name of watch, that guy is awesome
You traveled 2 weeks ago to Spain to test them while I walked into a Bass Pro Shop two weeks ago to purchase one. 😂. Two of my favorite RUclipsrs right here in the same video. Cheers.
I've been wearing an Instinct 2 Solar Tactical for 1,5 years now and I love it! 😃 But since the new Enduro 3 dropped I can't stop contemplating upgrading to the Enduro... Just when I told myself: 'No you don't need it!' I see this video pop up on my feed. 😂 Well let's watch and see if this puts the nail in the coffin.
The same. I have instinct 2x tactical. I like this watch. I sold apple ultra and kept this. But Enduro 3 cought my attention. On the other hand wonder when instinct 3 will be launched. Anyone knows?
There are a lot of issues and missing functions in enduro3 right now. Go to garmin enduro 3 forum and you will see massive issues. Best to wait till later this year. Be cheaper as well
From the point of view of a non ultra endurance athlete, but a man who likes to keep in shape and have a nice, long lasting watch (me), I still think my 6X pro is quite enough to cover all my needs (just this summer two triathlons, one marathon, couple of swimming events and a lot of hiking and biking and running for the holidays) with quality to spare. But if I have to choose an upgrade today, I'll go for the Enduro 3. Don't really care for the "smart" features of mic/speaker (I understand the pressure from the Apple Watch Ultra, but I still don't care), I don't dive, and since I actually like the MiP screen, I cannot justify the price upgrade of a Fenix 8 with MiP. The Enduro fits better in my needs and the threshold I'll not cross about the price (and in 6 months it'll be far, far cheaper). Obviously just my two cents and also my 6x pro is going to last a long, long time still... so I'll probably cross that bridge around the Fenix 10 and Enduro 5 release. :D Still thanks for all your good work and dedication to keep us informed customers. ;)
This is what I just made the update from. Flashlight Bigger screen (for 47mm) by 1mm Diving Speaker/mic Better battery New UI That’s my summary. There are prob some more. But this is what I noted.
@@SteveSmith-xw7xibarely barely better battery. Epix pro has a great flashlight so whatever “better” flashlight may in face even be is negligible to me. None of the big reviewers have even mentioned either of these items as big inprovemnts in their reviews either (dc rainmaker, desfit, chase the summit etc)
@thefitfile I have Garmin Epix (Gen 2) Pro 51mm and it will be interesting to compare with Fenix 8. But I agree Garmin makes to consumer more difficult to choose. Specialy Epix and Fenix are same watches now.
Wise choice! Fenix 7 pro has the exact same sensors as Fenix 8 or Enduro 3! So it is as capable as these new Garmin watches! If you don't have the need for a speaker/mic (don't want to use your watch as a phone) or dive support, Fenix 7 pro is as good as Fenix 8 and not that expensive! Great choice!
@@dylansutherland6075 Nope, not at all. I think Garmin will support Fenix 7 for a long time. Fenix 7 pro was released just a year ago. It will be many years until it is obsolete. I also own Garmin Fenix 6 and it is still well supported.
@@dylansutherland6075 actually I am not concerned, I know I won’t receive them and I am fine with that. It’s a big update for me coming from the 5 Plus
The confusing thing about the "Pro" vs the "number" version is that from the consumer POV the Fenix 7 Pro was a bigger improvement than the Fenix 8. I guess the difference is more obvious under the hood and there will be features only available for the Fenix 8 but the naming doesn't make a lot of sense for the user.
I really enjoy your discussions and reviews, even though I'm not planning to buy a new watch. Congrats on your work! I'm more than ever convinced my standard Epix is such a great watch. I hope to use it for many years before I have to upgrade it. Having a watch that lasts and stays current for a long time is the main reason I'm willing to pay these prices for Garmin. I hope they don't take that away to push people to upgrade sooner.
Thanks for your efforts. You didn't talk about the lag of LTE. This is the only needed feature to be able to leave the phone at home. In a few month we will see the Fenix 8 Pro with LTE.
I went from Epix 2 to the Enduro 3. I go tired of constantly charging when using AOD. I also didn't like that AOD on the AMOLED didn't show all the info unless "activated". It was a great watch, but the Enduro 3 is absolutely amazing.
Fenix 8 has the same info AOD BUT thaks a lot as I took time to compare AOD and, as I switch from Galaxy watch ultra I was dissapointed to see how dim AOD is in Garmin compared to Galaxy watch ultra (or even AWU). I understand the battery life but for ,e this is a dealbreaker. AOD is half the value of the watch for me because, as a watch, I need all info alleays ant don't have to move the wrist to see the info I was about to swith from Galaxy to Fenix 8 for better battery life and better design, but now I saw this dimmer AOD not to mention how much better AOD GWU or AWU have.
@@Blake00001 not at all. I was a bit worried about the size increase, but it wears smaller than I thought. 7inch wrist and fits fine with room to spare.
Here's what I think Garmin should've done (or should do in the future): Drop the two MIP options from the Fenix _and_ make the Enduro in 3 different sizes. That would be the same number of models, but the difference between the two lines would be crystal clear and there would again be a small MIP option.
5 years ago I bought Huawei watch gt2. It has a speaker and microphone. You can easily conduct phone conversation on it, even in very loud environment. It still works well, by the way.
Hi Guys, thanks for the reviews. I’m wondering why you have not covered the new strength based plans at all? Are they not available yet? Is this like Garmin coach except for strength training adapts as you go? Garmin doesn’t have any information about this on their website or in the usual manual too so it seems like a bit of a mystery. Thanks.
I have the fenix 8 , i absolutely love this watch. Now the convenience to set a timer with voice comment is awesome. I have one complain, and that is the speaker, if that was louder it would be totally perfect 👌 thanks for the great review !
Loved this video. I've been following you guys for a while and it was awesome hearing you review the f8. Especially since I was in Barcelo, Girona and Tossa De Mar few days ago. I'm envious you got a chance to hike near by. Great video fellas keep up the fun content.
Thanks guys. You are the best even without any compromise and never ever forgiving. The Enduro 3 looks to me as the way. Even in the history I love the Tactix the most. :)
I‘m upgrading from a 6X sapphire to the Enduro 3 because of the flashlight. The 7X Pro Sapphire is currently 10% cheaper so it was a no brainer to get the enduro 3 for me. I‘m fine with MIP
Great video from two of the very best. I’ve got the Fenix 8 43 mm and love it. The price is questionable though. I sold 2 older Garmin devices and managed to get a discount so wasn’t too much of a pinch. Would be great I Garmin could introduce trade in’s in the future. Where we get a partial refund when they receive our older device’. This would be a big sustainability tick for them. For future iterations I’d still like to see a slimmer watch for the 43mm and would be happy for the screen size to increase a little more for this. However, that said I 100 % agree about wanting a siren. Being a solo female runner it would give some kind of assurance or for when out on trails, if I was to fall in a place with limited or no reception etc.
Thanks for this video, you guys are amazing....👍👍👍 I like the MIP display better, So I guess my last fenix watch will be the 7x pro, and will keep going with the enduro series. Like one of you said, I just don´t like a phone on my arm - I like the rugged - hard to kill look... 💪💪💪
Isn't the enduro also the perfect watch for us long trail hikers. The Wonderland's, JMT's, PCT's, etc.. audience is a perfect target for these. Thanks guys and hope you make an appearance back in Seattle some day Ray.
Made my day finding that this is now a podcast between these guys! Good review sirs! To each their own but it might be time to upgrade and relegate my Forerunner 920xt (the OG Square body trisports watch, which is still rocking as my daily!) to the tribars on my bike. I'm a guy with thick wrists but these watches are getting goofy big, hell, I'd do the 43mm if it could be configured in solar. I'm up in the air on F8 47mm colors though. The black is classic sleek and understated but the titanium (if switching out the yellow band) would also look good and not look like every other tactical/trisports watch bro that's out there. The amoled is beautiful but I'm thinking that the benefit of having to charge less often would be worth it with a solar version.
Ray said that you can turn off gesture on AMOLED but then you don't see seconds and all the info plus in sunlight it becomes unusable. Sorry but for some folks (including me) MIP will always be better and if they plan to drop it in Fenix series, they better have Enduro 3s.
I have Garmin Fenix 7X Pro. When deciding which to get, Fenix or Epix, I went with Fenix, because I just prefer MIP over AMOLED for rugged outdoor watch. Previously I was G-Shock user. I know AMOLED is great nowadays, battery last a while. But, just personal preference. When I decide to change watch, I'll probably go with Enduro. I don't need it, I'm not an ultra runner, but I run, trail run, hike, ride mtb, weight lift... Plus, due to hand size, I gotta go with 51mm, or else watch looks like a child's 😁 as I said, nothing against AMOLED, but just too bright and colourful for me. Regarding new lineup, there's nothing that would make me to upgrade to gen 8 from 7X Pro. I don't dive, and I don't need microphone and speaker on my watch. Actually, don't know what future iterations have to bring, to want to upgrade. Not sure does LTE looks interesting, not sure how will that work in my country and what plans would be available from my carrier. But 7X Pro is a damn capable watch! Great episode guys, and great reviews on your channels. And that trip in Spain was awesome, it seems. And you guys really go an extra mile (or should I say kilometre, since I'm European?) to present us with most accurate and in depth reviews.
Thank you always for the content. I think Garmin is doing a fantastic job and hopefully they continue the push. To have a pretty full dive function and all the other functions and battery life on a single watch is amazing. Maybe showing my age, but as a kid I could not figure why I was unable to get the money, my money, from my bank account on a Saturday afternoon or Sunday. My mom swears they invented ATMs because of me -- and now of course I can use my money from my watch. My point is, for my age group, these watches are finally hitting the marks that we have always dreamed of, so the prices do not seem that out of place (compare a Rolex that shows the time and date for $20k --- ?????? WTHeck). Anyway, Amazing times!!
For me, a MIP is much more practical and beautiful as a watch, in addition to the autonomy and not having to charge the watch almost like a mobile phone. I used to have Samsung watches and I was delighted with those watches and the beautiful Amoled screen, but I got tired of taking my watch off one day and another day not. The times I haven't had the watch, the main thing and what you miss, even if it seems silly, is to look at the time and that is the main job of a watch, that's what they were created for. Anyway, I'll go on and on because I ended up taking my watch off almost every day and I changed to the Enduro 2 2 years ago and I'm delighted. I also have to say that I go for workouts every day and a lot of swimming and for swimming I can always see the MIP without having to spend 90 minutes on the Amoled screen. This year, after studying it a lot and with the new models, I was thinking of going for the Enduro 3, but I was put off by the cheap plastic case cover, the loss of microphone and speaker and, above all, the sealed buttons, since I swim a lot every day and can touch them in the pool. Of course, I will miss the lighter weight at the expense of the cheap cover, of course, and the super autonomy and, of course, the price, but I got my Fenix 8 51mm Solar for €1055, not so bad. I am a defender of applied technologies where they belong, and a watch should have a MIP screen in any case, and the Fenix 8 51mm Amoled has a 29-day screen, but that's with the turn of the wrist and then the screen is off all the time, and if you leave it fixed, the screen can burn. The MIP looks fantastic, it's not the same, of course, but it's a watch, you have to take it into account. All watches nowadays look the same with the screen always black, the Fenix are so pretty they look gorgeous, many people ask me about the watch and tell me what a beautiful watch the numbers look so good. I'll stop bothering you now. I look forward to your opinions. MIP X EVER!!!!!
Des did you not have gesture backlight enabled on enduro? I’ve had MIP display and didn’t have a problem seeing it in shade/night because I had gesture backlight on. If I didn’t have that, I wouldn’t be able to see the screen in those conditions. Epix pro was ANNOYING. When I drive, I can’t read the screen. I had to give an exaggerated gesture to get the screen to go bright to read it, whereas with MIP, I could read it.
I didn't know these were already available in the stores. I ordered mine on Garmin last week and it says it won't ship for 2 to 3 weeks! Oh well...the anticipation is building!
I do not know if the fenix 8 solar are that overpriced 😄 The solar is more effective and the screen is more visible than before! This is actual hardware innovation at least, the amoled version lacks that, or am i wrong? The enduro 3 is of course a great deal, however 51mm looks just huge and is not everyday wear compatible for everyone... Probably would look weird in the office
Well, I am a die-hard Garmin fanboy. I have always bought the latest and greatest Fenix/Tactix since the Tactix Bravo series... However, I have to admit that this is the first time that I feel that the new model would be a waste of money.... I currently own a Fenix 7 pro and I have to admit that the latest model doesn't offer anything that I don't already have. The MIP screen is a must for me as I usually go on multi-day events such as sailing, hiking or cycling... The Fenix 7 pro already has the 5th heart rate sensor, so that's something I already have. The microphone is completely unnecessary for me. I also appreciate the more mature, more reliable firmware (I used to test betas but there was far too much unnecessary frustration and wasted battery cycles...). So Garmin has made my life easier this time around, because I can't see any advantage with this model compared to my Fenix 7 pro... Maybe the Enduro 3 would be grate however I switched back to the 47mm case size because I feel more comfortable for daily driver.
Yes, MIP only here. Charging 12x per year and I hate having notifications from my phone that is always vibrating mode anyway. And the look and effect of AMOLED screams smartwatch where I just want to wear a sportwatch and a smartwatch is another screen I’m starting at besides my tablet, mac and smartphone. In my perspective, I don’t see any benefits to AMOLED. MIP screens is always visible unless certain circumstances that I don’t meet that often. Thank you Garmin for making the effort to keep it and have so many different versions of the watch. Amazing.
Lots of great points here. I still think the new UI is the best marriage between the FR965 and the Epix Pro - making for a very enjoyable smartwatch experience. Lots of updates needed, though.
@@iMaxPatten Definitely - that seems to be the consensus around the horn. The watch feels like it's closer to 60fps versus the 24fps on the display of the Epix (just perception). That is a huge win. Makes me want to "use" the watch more. But, long ways to go. They clearly pushed this release out quickly to get in front of Apple's new device(s).
@@oxeneers yeah it’s a bummer I got mine launch day and it’s been a brick because of a firmware update that nuked the Bluetooth and wifi functionality. Garmin has no fix yet and I have been waiting on their support over Labor Day weekend
It’s true. PADI open water only allows dives down to around 18m and even the PADI advanced certification only goes to around 30m so you’re definitely getting pretty specialist if 40m isn’t deep enough for you. It’s not a typical depth for a recreational diver
Great discussion. I was toying with an Enduro as a second watch but am not familiar with MIP. The point about MIP not having a real advantage anymore apart from improving on AMOLEDs already good battery just saved me cash
Great conversation. I'm excited for the Fenix 8. Gonna go with an AMOLED for my upgrade from my Forerunner 945 but probably going to wait a couple months for Garmin to work out a few bugs and polish the new software a bit more. I'd maybe consider an Epix on sale this holiday if it got the new OS/UI. That's important to me to be able to wear it as a daily wear watch and not just during activities.
I am considering purchasing the product, but only after the ECG feature is released for Europe as well. I previously owned the Venue 3, and there were rumors that the feature would be available in Europe, but that did not occur. Therefore, I will wait and refrain from purchasing another Garmin product until all features available in the US are also released in the EU. 🇪🇺⌚️
Great collab haven't really been in this segment in Years have a pair of Garmin Quatix lying around somewhere as was hoping to try out there auto docking feature for Boats maybe 5 Years ago but that never panned out still love the watch tho but yes came back here because i remembered that September is "GoPro Launch Month" and thought i would check in as have ancient gopros lying around that i used to mount on my parent's dog Ted sadly deceased now but he was the best camerman i ever worked with and very socialable but yes thought maybe GoPro had something going on as is Apple back to school crazy depressing equity downers so was very much shocked to see GoPro deliver pretty much everything for the first time i can ever remeber as a product launch then saw Garmin which as a business has actually been the business for Garmin so was amazed to see these Garmin devices validating well as well so yes huge fan of competition but collab where it's at fir top shelf content and both and the products here check all the boxes😊
If its about diving in Spain, next time check out Cabo de Palos in Murcia (south east of the country), it is unique in the Mediterranean see. The area is also great fro biking. See ya👌🏼
Dont understand Garmins reason for no small MIP fenix... If there is not enough space for the solar panel - Then make it without... since when was solar panel a must for MIP displays? Strange..
One thing people seem to overlook whenever comparing the AWU and Garmin is how much more you get from Garmin with the price of admission. Yes, the AWU is a wonderful device but you need to buy or subscribe to apps to get what you get for "free" from Garmin. This diving discussion is a perfect example.
Hey guys thanks a lot of this coverage . You both are my fav RUclipsrs when it comes to sport tech. Please if possible make a video comparing the fénix 8 solar vs oled . There is no shop here in the Netherlands when I can play with both in hand.
The upgraded the code base. They aren’t going to invest in putting new UI nor features in previous versions. It’s unfortunate for those who just got a new device but they had to do it sometime. I was in the Epix Gen 2 (not pro) and while the Fenix 8 didn’t offer really anything new, I wanted the flashlight, lol, and it gets me on the new code base so I’ll get future updates if/as they come if hardware supports it. I was holding out for LTE, mostly got live track for Ironman racing. But I’m on an Ironman break, so I don’t really need LTE now. 2 days into the Fenix 8 (from TPC) and really liking it. I actually like the new buttons. I hated the buttons on the Epix. My only complaint is there is a little lag here and there. But it’s really not a big deal.
What are you referring to with the code base? Is this anything official? Is there anything crucial related to that? I guess that the flagships of last year will get updates as well ..
@@sunhead-x yes. Garmin said the new line is on the new code base. What that means is they basically started from scratch with the software. Usually with the new releases they build on top of software they already wrote. Just adding new logic and cleaning logic up. In this case they are inferring that that wrote all new software. This is required from time to time for several reasons. Most importantly code needs to be up to security standards. Some old types of code just can’t be updated to not be vulnerable. Sometimes it’s to stay with industry standards so things can interact with other things. Sometimes old code just can’t perform as fast as new code. I don’t know why Gamin did this now. But it’s not uncommon. That said the new and old code likely are not compatible. And Garmin isn’t going to write code the old way for olds devices. This would be double the effort in design, code, testing and maintenance. And that’s just not a good ROI. I’d expect Garmin to get back to pushed features to older models when the next version comes out. As long as the hardware can handle it.
Hi, 38:45 are you trying to say the touch unlock feature is a new feature on the Fenix 8 but won't be included in firmware updates for older devices eg I have a Epix Gen 2 Pro and therefore won't get it?
Unfortunately, I am a big fan of MIP, but I don't like what they did with the plastic body on the Enduro 3. I hope they don't kill off the MIP version of the Fenix going forward. Fortunately, the Fenix 7X Pro Sapphire is pretty much the perfect watch for me (although I'd prefer non solar). So that should cover me for many years
As far as the mic goes, 1. The call back feature doesn't work 2. You can't reply to messages using your mic These two features alone would make a big difference for a lot of people
Great work, guys! I'm very happy with my epix Pro (Gen 2) purchase as my first Garmin last November. I'm actually okay with the new UI not coming to this watch. From everything I've seen from you guys and others the new UI doesn't add much for my usage. I know you like the new 'swipe to unlock' feature, but I just have a programmed hot key to turn the touch screen on/off that I'll argue is easier for me to use than the swiping would be (it looks clunky and I've seen others needing to swipe twice for it to unlock). My bigger picture observation which you and others notice is not much new. But what exactly do we want (other than cellular connectivity)? I'd propose these companies waiting every two years instead of one to release new hardware. I know that's a losing battle but at some point it's too much and they're making new stuff just because it's the industry norm to do so and consumers expect the new and shiny object.
If the new strength training features aren't brought to the Epix Pro 2 that'll be telling of how Garmin is going to treat customers going forward. It'll certainly make me consider whether I buy any further Garmin devices.
I think Garmin needs to streamline their watch lineup. I am glad the Epix is no more and now it is in the Fenix umbrella. Now they need to do something with the Enduro line. Either absorb it into Fenix or segregate the AMOLED and MIP displays
Hi guys, I bought a Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar Edition and then the Fenix 7X Pro was released. I was a bit annoyed because they improved the optical reader and it is very important. With the new Fenix 8 I have been disappointed because there is no improvement for my needs (the AMOLED screen is not important to me, neither are the diving options, I would not use the microphone and speaker, etc.) I hope Garmin has not reached the technological peak of Fenix. I will wait for Garmin to do something more innovative and launch a new Fenix on the market
I would say giving Garmin credit that when the Fenix 7 came out in Jan 2022 look at all the added features over two years. I bet from the original day they introduced 50 new features. The down side to the new Fenix is it seems like they just were not finished yet and wanted to throw it out and they had 2 1-2 years to get this thing ready
I have a question that I have not been able to get answers to... is the actual hardware updated from the Fenix7? Meaning SOC, processor, memory (speed, not necessarily capacity), etc?
I just bought a Venu 3 at 30% off. I could not justify the price of the Fenix 8 with so few new features. I do really like the style and robustness of the Fenix though. Will re-evaluate when the next version comes out in 1 to 2 years, I can't imagine how they will improve on the 8.
Both watches are amazing, just get both ıf you are going to longer hikes, once one of em dies, you can activate the other one, I wish ıt was that cheap in my country, and we did not have to get it from other countries, it is about 2000 dollars for fenix 8 and that is insane
I think solar will be making its way to the amoled versions before Fenix 9 appears. Also, like you say, I think Enduro 4 will continue with mips display in the foreseeable future, due to its priority of battery life (and I hope/think it will be also in smaller sizes).
I thought long to decide. In the end I got an Enduro 3 to replace my Fénix 5. The higher price for the Fénix 8 wasn't worth it. I would have preferred a Enduro 3 47mm.
1) is Garmin filnally using internal sensors to stop "gps floating" when stationary? 2) does enduro3/fenix8 inform you that you forgot to click START on start of the run/bike like edge computers? 3) will enduro 3 get same updates as fenix 8 series?
I found the Fenix solar unreadable indoors without the backlight. For a solar powered watch that I can use diving, or with a compass, I will take my Citizens every time.
Do you think they will fix the glitches and make the OS run more smoothly? Curious if this is an OS issue or a processor issue. I want to get the Fenix 8, but I’m seeing a lot of reviewers complaining about the glitches in the OS, so I’m nervous.
Hi guys, you both are great! Thanks for all the videos! Do you recommend the Fenix 8 for someone that already has the Fenix 7 (not the pro)? Just wondering if it is worth upgrading
Thanks for the great video. I am using the old Fenix 3 and have been waiting for the launch of the Fenix 8. Now I wonder if I should go for Fenix 8 Solar or Fenix 7 Pro?
You guys are the best at what you do. Your reviews are spot on and really help your audience decide which products to purchase. Thanks for the great work.
Appreciate the kind words! Thank you!! 🙏
agreed top notch reviewers
Des is definitely not....his Galaxy Ultra review was just a bunch of "much improved" bs ...while Samsung are still putting out terrible watches... search for Scientific Review and name of watch, that guy is awesome
Just got a Fenix 8 43mm! First Garmin since 945. I love it.
You traveled 2 weeks ago to Spain to test them while I walked into a Bass Pro Shop two weeks ago to purchase one. 😂. Two of my favorite RUclipsrs right here in the same video. Cheers.
what's next? Test it while fishing?
I've been wearing an Instinct 2 Solar Tactical for 1,5 years now and I love it! 😃
But since the new Enduro 3 dropped I can't stop contemplating upgrading to the Enduro... Just when I told myself: 'No you don't need it!' I see this video pop up on my feed. 😂 Well let's watch and see if this puts the nail in the coffin.
Ive been wearing an Instinct as well, It will be interesting to see if Garmin comes out with a version 3 soon and how it compares.
The same. I have instinct 2x tactical. I like this watch. I sold apple ultra and kept this. But Enduro 3 cought my attention. On the other hand wonder when instinct 3 will be launched. Anyone knows?
There are a lot of issues and missing functions in enduro3 right now. Go to garmin enduro 3 forum and you will see massive issues. Best to wait till later this year. Be cheaper as well
Of course you need it …go for it …life is too short …enjoy it since you can afford it ❤️
The Best Garmin Experts hands down. Thanks
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Mh, don't forget The Quantified Scientist, he's the true boss for analytics
Thanks, Des and Ray, for reinforcing my decision to upgrade my F7Xss to the Enduro 3!
Love your videos! Thank you for joining up for these!
Thanks so much!
From the point of view of a non ultra endurance athlete, but a man who likes to keep in shape and have a nice, long lasting watch (me), I still think my 6X pro is quite enough to cover all my needs (just this summer two triathlons, one marathon, couple of swimming events and a lot of hiking and biking and running for the holidays) with quality to spare.
But if I have to choose an upgrade today, I'll go for the Enduro 3.
Don't really care for the "smart" features of mic/speaker (I understand the pressure from the Apple Watch Ultra, but I still don't care), I don't dive, and since I actually like the MiP screen, I cannot justify the price upgrade of a Fenix 8 with MiP. The Enduro fits better in my needs and the threshold I'll not cross about the price (and in 6 months it'll be far, far cheaper).
Obviously just my two cents and also my 6x pro is going to last a long, long time still... so I'll probably cross that bridge around the Fenix 10 and Enduro 5 release. :D
Still thanks for all your good work and dedication to keep us informed customers. ;)
Two triathlons and a marathon. You're no slouch of an athlete (despite your first sentence). 💪👊
How is your battery life for fenix 6x pro? I've had it for several years but I feel battery life is not the same anymore
I would love you to talk next time about the comparison between fenix 8 and Epix pro gen2.
This is what I just made the update from.
Flashlight
Bigger screen (for 47mm) by 1mm
Diving
Speaker/mic
Better battery
New UI
That’s my summary. There are prob some more. But this is what I noted.
@@SteveSmith-xw7xibarely barely better battery. Epix pro has a great flashlight so whatever “better” flashlight may in face even be is negligible to me. None of the big reviewers have even mentioned either of these items as big inprovemnts in their reviews either (dc rainmaker, desfit, chase the summit etc)
@thefitfile I have Garmin Epix (Gen 2) Pro 51mm and it will be interesting to compare with Fenix 8. But I agree Garmin makes to consumer more difficult to choose. Specialy Epix and Fenix are same watches now.
Hey guys, watched all your reviews in the last 5 years. I’m glad you’re collaborating.
PS: i just purchased the Fenix 7 Pro Sapphire Solar
Wise choice! Fenix 7 pro has the exact same sensors as Fenix 8 or Enduro 3! So it is as capable as these new Garmin watches! If you don't have the need for a speaker/mic (don't want to use your watch as a phone) or dive support, Fenix 7 pro is as good as Fenix 8 and not that expensive! Great choice!
are you concerned about missing the updated user interface or receiving less new feature updates as a result of this?
@@dylansutherland6075 Nope, not at all. I think Garmin will support Fenix 7 for a long time. Fenix 7 pro was released just a year ago. It will be many years until it is obsolete. I also own Garmin Fenix 6 and it is still well supported.
I actually just did the same thing. New features are cool but I’d rather wait for garmin to polish the new platform, fix the bugs etc
@@dylansutherland6075 actually I am not concerned, I know I won’t receive them and I am fine with that. It’s a big update for me coming from the 5 Plus
The confusing thing about the "Pro" vs the "number" version is that from the consumer POV the Fenix 7 Pro was a bigger improvement than the Fenix 8.
I guess the difference is more obvious under the hood and there will be features only available for the Fenix 8 but the naming doesn't make a lot of sense for the user.
Agreed. Lots of confusing naming/marketing with this release.
I really enjoy your discussions and reviews, even though I'm not planning to buy a new watch. Congrats on your work!
I'm more than ever convinced my standard Epix is such a great watch. I hope to use it for many years before I have to upgrade it.
Having a watch that lasts and stays current for a long time is the main reason I'm willing to pay these prices for Garmin. I hope they don't take that away to push people to upgrade sooner.
Thanks for your efforts. You didn't talk about the lag of LTE. This is the only needed feature to be able to leave the phone at home. In a few month we will see the Fenix 8 Pro with LTE.
@@EV_Jojo if by a “few” you mean 12, I’d prob agree though they haven’t do far and I think we all thought we’d have it by now.
I went from Epix 2 to the Enduro 3. I go tired of constantly charging when using AOD. I also didn't like that AOD on the AMOLED didn't show all the info unless "activated". It was a great watch, but the Enduro 3 is absolutely amazing.
Fenix 8 has the same info AOD
BUT thaks a lot as I took time to compare AOD and, as I switch from Galaxy watch ultra I was dissapointed to see how dim AOD is in Garmin compared to Galaxy watch ultra (or even AWU). I understand the battery life but for ,e this is a dealbreaker. AOD is half the value of the watch for me because, as a watch, I need all info alleays ant don't have to move the wrist to see the info
I was about to swith from Galaxy to Fenix 8 for better battery life and better design, but now I saw this dimmer AOD not to mention how much better AOD GWU or AWU have.
Can fully relate. Had the epic 51mm, sold it after a month and went with the 7X Pro sapphire solar... incredibly happy since then.
Do the thick bezel of Enduro 3 bother you? Never had a Garmin but pondering whether to buy one.
@@Blake00001 not at all. I was a bit worried about the size increase, but it wears smaller than I thought. 7inch wrist and fits fine with room to spare.
Came here for the Fenix E content. Was not disappointed! 😂 Thanks, gentlemen.
Here's what I think Garmin should've done (or should do in the future): Drop the two MIP options from the Fenix _and_ make the Enduro in 3 different sizes. That would be the same number of models, but the difference between the two lines would be crystal clear and there would again be a small MIP option.
Two Watch Legends together. Love this guys !
Thanks!!
Garmin Epix 2 ALREADY $349 BRAND NEW in store at select Sam’s Club.
5 years ago I bought Huawei watch gt2. It has a speaker and microphone. You can easily conduct phone conversation on it, even in very loud environment. It still works well, by the way.
🇨🇳 trash
Switching from v1 AW Ultra to a Fenix 8. I don't dive, but knowing water temperature in hot springs or hot tubs is pretty slick.
AW Ultra can do that, too…
Hi Guys, thanks for the reviews.
I’m wondering why you have not covered the new strength based plans at all? Are they not available yet? Is this like Garmin coach except for strength training adapts as you go? Garmin doesn’t have any information about this on their website or in the usual manual too so it seems like a bit of a mystery. Thanks.
Great podcast… you covered garmin diving part very well
I have the fenix 8 , i absolutely love this watch. Now the convenience to set a timer with voice comment is awesome. I have one complain, and that is the speaker, if that was louder it would be totally perfect 👌 thanks for the great review !
Loved this video. I've been following you guys for a while and it was awesome hearing you review the f8. Especially since I was in Barcelo, Girona and Tossa De Mar few days ago. I'm envious you got a chance to hike near by. Great video fellas keep up the fun content.
Thanks guys. You are the best even without any compromise and never ever forgiving. The Enduro 3 looks to me as the way. Even in the history I love the Tactix the most. :)
Nice business trip. Nice write off.
learning from linus :D
I‘m upgrading from a 6X sapphire to the Enduro 3 because of the flashlight. The 7X Pro Sapphire is currently 10% cheaper so it was a no brainer to get the enduro 3 for me. I‘m fine with MIP
You guys should promote this podcast more
Great video from two of the very best. I’ve got the Fenix 8 43 mm and love it. The price is questionable though. I sold 2 older Garmin devices and managed to get a discount so wasn’t too much of a pinch. Would be great I Garmin could introduce trade in’s in the future. Where we get a partial refund when they receive our older device’. This would be a big sustainability tick for them.
For future iterations I’d still like to see a slimmer watch for the 43mm and would be happy for the screen size to increase a little more for this. However, that said I 100 % agree about wanting a siren. Being a solo female runner it would give some kind of assurance or for when out on trails, if I was to fall in a place with limited or no reception etc.
❤ great to see you together 🤙🏻🍻🤗
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Thanks for this video, you guys are amazing....👍👍👍 I like the MIP display better, So I guess my last fenix watch will be the 7x pro, and will keep going with the enduro series. Like one of you said, I just don´t like a phone on my arm - I like the rugged - hard to kill look... 💪💪💪
Great podcast. So much more nuance to it than i first thought..
Thanks Paul!
Isn't the enduro also the perfect watch for us long trail hikers. The Wonderland's, JMT's, PCT's, etc.. audience is a perfect target for these. Thanks guys and hope you make an appearance back in Seattle some day Ray.
Thanks to u, pleasure to hear from u both 🎉
Thanks so much!
Made my day finding that this is now a podcast between these guys!
Good review sirs!
To each their own but it might be time to upgrade and relegate my Forerunner 920xt (the OG Square body trisports watch, which is still rocking as my daily!) to the tribars on my bike. I'm a guy with thick wrists but these watches are getting goofy big, hell, I'd do the 43mm if it could be configured in solar. I'm up in the air on F8 47mm colors though. The black is classic sleek and understated but the titanium (if switching out the yellow band) would also look good and not look like every other tactical/trisports watch bro that's out there. The amoled is beautiful but I'm thinking that the benefit of having to charge less often would be worth it with a solar version.
Great review as always. Reminds me that I have to renew my membership on Ray’s website! 👍🏻
Do it! (Des)
I currently own the Fenix 7 sapphire solar and I‘m happy. The 8 lineup doesn’t look too exciting to me.
Ray said that you can turn off gesture on AMOLED but then you don't see seconds and all the info plus in sunlight it becomes unusable. Sorry but for some folks (including me) MIP will always be better and if they plan to drop it in Fenix series, they better have Enduro 3s.
You guys are incredible thank you so much 🙏
Thanks!
I have Garmin Fenix 7X Pro. When deciding which to get, Fenix or Epix, I went with Fenix, because I just prefer MIP over AMOLED for rugged outdoor watch. Previously I was G-Shock user. I know AMOLED is great nowadays, battery last a while. But, just personal preference. When I decide to change watch, I'll probably go with Enduro. I don't need it, I'm not an ultra runner, but I run, trail run, hike, ride mtb, weight lift... Plus, due to hand size, I gotta go with 51mm, or else watch looks like a child's 😁 as I said, nothing against AMOLED, but just too bright and colourful for me. Regarding new lineup, there's nothing that would make me to upgrade to gen 8 from 7X Pro. I don't dive, and I don't need microphone and speaker on my watch. Actually, don't know what future iterations have to bring, to want to upgrade. Not sure does LTE looks interesting, not sure how will that work in my country and what plans would be available from my carrier. But 7X Pro is a damn capable watch! Great episode guys, and great reviews on your channels. And that trip in Spain was awesome, it seems. And you guys really go an extra mile (or should I say kilometre, since I'm European?) to present us with most accurate and in depth reviews.
I like these round ups with a bit more behind the scenes info
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Thank you always for the content. I think Garmin is doing a fantastic job and hopefully they continue the push. To have a pretty full dive function and all the other functions and battery life on a single watch is amazing. Maybe showing my age, but as a kid I could not figure why I was unable to get the money, my money, from my bank account on a Saturday afternoon or Sunday. My mom swears they invented ATMs because of me -- and now of course I can use my money from my watch. My point is, for my age group, these watches are finally hitting the marks that we have always dreamed of, so the prices do not seem that out of place (compare a Rolex that shows the time and date for $20k --- ?????? WTHeck). Anyway, Amazing times!!
For me, a MIP is much more practical and beautiful as a watch, in addition to the autonomy and not having to charge the watch almost like a mobile phone. I used to have Samsung watches and I was delighted with those watches and the beautiful Amoled screen, but I got tired of taking my watch off one day and another day not. The times I haven't had the watch, the main thing and what you miss, even if it seems silly, is to look at the time and that is the main job of a watch, that's what they were created for. Anyway, I'll go on and on because I ended up taking my watch off almost every day and I changed to the Enduro 2 2 years ago and I'm delighted. I also have to say that I go for workouts every day and a lot of swimming and for swimming I can always see the MIP without having to spend 90 minutes on the Amoled screen. This year, after studying it a lot and with the new models, I was thinking of going for the Enduro 3, but I was put off by the cheap plastic case cover, the loss of microphone and speaker and, above all, the sealed buttons, since I swim a lot every day and can touch them in the pool. Of course, I will miss the lighter weight at the expense of the cheap cover, of course, and the super autonomy and, of course, the price, but I got my Fenix 8 51mm Solar for €1055, not so bad.
I am a defender of applied technologies where they belong, and a watch should have a MIP screen in any case, and the Fenix 8 51mm Amoled has a 29-day screen, but that's with the turn of the wrist and then the screen is off all the time, and if you leave it fixed, the screen can burn. The MIP looks fantastic, it's not the same, of course, but it's a watch, you have to take it into account. All watches nowadays look the same with the screen always black, the Fenix are so pretty they look gorgeous, many people ask me about the watch and tell me what a beautiful watch the numbers look so good.
I'll stop bothering you now. I look forward to your opinions.
MIP X EVER!!!!!
Des did you not have gesture backlight enabled on enduro? I’ve had MIP display and didn’t have a problem seeing it in shade/night because I had gesture backlight on. If I didn’t have that, I wouldn’t be able to see the screen in those conditions. Epix pro was ANNOYING. When I drive, I can’t read the screen. I had to give an exaggerated gesture to get the screen to go bright to read it, whereas with MIP, I could read it.
I didn't know these were already available in the stores. I ordered mine on Garmin last week and it says it won't ship for 2 to 3 weeks! Oh well...the anticipation is building!
I do not know if the fenix 8 solar are that overpriced 😄 The solar is more effective and the screen is more visible than before! This is actual hardware innovation at least, the amoled version lacks that, or am i wrong?
The enduro 3 is of course a great deal, however 51mm looks just huge and is not everyday wear compatible for everyone... Probably would look weird in the office
Well, I am a die-hard Garmin fanboy. I have always bought the latest and greatest Fenix/Tactix since the Tactix Bravo series... However, I have to admit that this is the first time that I feel that the new model would be a waste of money.... I currently own a Fenix 7 pro and I have to admit that the latest model doesn't offer anything that I don't already have. The MIP screen is a must for me as I usually go on multi-day events such as sailing, hiking or cycling... The Fenix 7 pro already has the 5th heart rate sensor, so that's something I already have. The microphone is completely unnecessary for me. I also appreciate the more mature, more reliable firmware (I used to test betas but there was far too much unnecessary frustration and wasted battery cycles...). So Garmin has made my life easier this time around, because I can't see any advantage with this model compared to my Fenix 7 pro... Maybe the Enduro 3 would be grate however I switched back to the 47mm case size because I feel more comfortable for daily driver.
I love the video and the depth of info!! Thank you guys!
But, tbh my ocd is killin me, the tools need to be organized bro!!
Hey! I never realized Mr. Rainmaker doesn't blink when he's listening to someone speak! 😂
Yes, MIP only here. Charging 12x per year and I hate having notifications from my phone that is always vibrating mode anyway. And the look and effect of AMOLED screams smartwatch where I just want to wear a sportwatch and a smartwatch is another screen I’m starting at besides my tablet, mac and smartphone.
In my perspective, I don’t see any benefits to AMOLED. MIP screens is always visible unless certain circumstances that I don’t meet that often.
Thank you Garmin for making the effort to keep it and have so many different versions of the watch. Amazing.
Lots of great points here. I still think the new UI is the best marriage between the FR965 and the Epix Pro - making for a very enjoyable smartwatch experience. Lots of updates needed, though.
They feel a little unfinished at the moment
@@iMaxPatten Definitely - that seems to be the consensus around the horn. The watch feels like it's closer to 60fps versus the 24fps on the display of the Epix (just perception). That is a huge win. Makes me want to "use" the watch more.
But, long ways to go. They clearly pushed this release out quickly to get in front of Apple's new device(s).
@@oxeneers yeah it’s a bummer I got mine launch day and it’s been a brick because of a firmware update that nuked the Bluetooth and wifi functionality. Garmin has no fix yet and I have been waiting on their support over Labor Day weekend
@@iMaxPatten Ooh! Maybe I saw your post on Reddit? Big bummer man, really sorry to hear that :( Fuck
I liked the market pricing strategy talk, would love to hear more about when the best times to buy these watches is
We need to stop talking about going deeper than 40 meters diving. So few divers are going more than 130 feet.
It’s true. PADI open water only allows dives down to around 18m and even the PADI advanced certification only goes to around 30m so you’re definitely getting pretty specialist if 40m isn’t deep enough for you. It’s not a typical depth for a recreational diver
I'm happy with my refurbished Fenix 6 Pro that I just got for about 1/3rd of the price of the Fenix 8.
@DesFit welcome to europe. :) You will love Madeira as well.
On my list!
Porto Moniz "Levadas walk" in the mountains, in particular. :-)
@@charltheron2769 I done Levadas walk and end of day I was so tired and feeled so happy about everything.
Great discussion. I was toying with an Enduro as a second watch but am not familiar with MIP. The point about MIP not having a real advantage anymore apart from improving on AMOLEDs already good battery just saved me cash
Awesome podcast guys! You should invite Chase the Summit to be part of your podcast. Another opinion would be a great addition.
Great conversation. I'm excited for the Fenix 8. Gonna go with an AMOLED for my upgrade from my Forerunner 945 but probably going to wait a couple months for Garmin to work out a few bugs and polish the new software a bit more. I'd maybe consider an Epix on sale this holiday if it got the new OS/UI. That's important to me to be able to wear it as a daily wear watch and not just during activities.
I am considering purchasing the product, but only after the ECG feature is released for Europe as well. I previously owned the Venue 3, and there were rumors that the feature would be available in Europe, but that did not occur. Therefore, I will wait and refrain from purchasing another Garmin product until all features available in the US are also released in the EU. 🇪🇺⌚️
The only feature I wish they back ported to the epix2 is four iq connect data fields, this would be a game changer
I wish there were some comparisons of the amoled and mips useability/visibility under water.
enduro 3 also has a thinner bezel, so it just looks better.
As I fenix 5 titanium user I think is time I am leaning towards the solar smaller one
Great collab haven't really been in this segment in Years have a pair of Garmin Quatix lying around somewhere as was hoping to try out there auto docking feature for Boats maybe 5 Years ago but that never panned out still love the watch tho but yes came back here because i remembered that September is "GoPro Launch Month" and thought i would check in as have ancient gopros lying around that i used to mount on my parent's dog Ted sadly deceased now but he was the best camerman i ever worked with and very socialable but yes thought maybe GoPro had something going on as is Apple back to school crazy depressing equity downers so was very much shocked to see GoPro deliver pretty much everything for the first time i can ever remeber as a product launch then saw Garmin which as a business has actually been the business for Garmin so was amazed to see these Garmin devices validating well as well so yes huge fan of competition but collab where it's at fir top shelf content and both and the products here check all the boxes😊
If its about diving in Spain, next time check out Cabo de Palos in Murcia (south east of the country), it is unique in the Mediterranean see. The area is also great fro biking. See ya👌🏼
Dont understand Garmins reason for no small MIP fenix... If there is not enough space for the solar panel - Then make it without... since when was solar panel a must for MIP displays? Strange..
One thing people seem to overlook whenever comparing the AWU and Garmin is how much more you get from Garmin with the price of admission. Yes, the AWU is a wonderful device but you need to buy or subscribe to apps to get what you get for "free" from Garmin. This diving discussion is a perfect example.
Decent mk3 is the same exact price as the fenix 8 here in Australia at $1860, which is about $1300usd.
Hey guys thanks a lot of this coverage . You both are my fav RUclipsrs when it comes to sport tech.
Please if possible make a video comparing the fénix 8 solar vs oled . There is no shop here in the Netherlands when I can play with both in hand.
Yup, content surrounding that coming soon 👍
$4k credit card bill? That's a lot of baguettes.
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For all the flights and hotels I was thinking that was a great deal!
The upgraded the code base. They aren’t going to invest in putting new UI nor features in previous versions. It’s unfortunate for those who just got a new device but they had to do it sometime. I was in the Epix Gen 2 (not pro) and while the Fenix 8 didn’t offer really anything new, I wanted the flashlight, lol, and it gets me on the new code base so I’ll get future updates if/as they come if hardware supports it. I was holding out for LTE, mostly got live track for Ironman racing. But I’m on an Ironman break, so I don’t really need LTE now. 2 days into the Fenix 8 (from TPC) and really liking it. I actually like the new buttons. I hated the buttons on the Epix. My only complaint is there is a little lag here and there. But it’s really not a big deal.
What are you referring to with the code base? Is this anything official? Is there anything crucial related to that? I guess that the flagships of last year will get updates as well ..
@@sunhead-x yes. Garmin said the new line is on the new code base. What that means is they basically started from scratch with the software. Usually with the new releases they build on top of software they already wrote. Just adding new logic and cleaning logic up. In this case they are inferring that that wrote all new software. This is required from time to time for several reasons. Most importantly code needs to be up to security standards. Some old types of code just can’t be updated to not be vulnerable. Sometimes it’s to stay with industry standards so things can interact with other things. Sometimes old code just can’t perform as fast as new code. I don’t know why Gamin did this now. But it’s not uncommon. That said the new and old code likely are not compatible. And Garmin isn’t going to write code the old way for olds devices. This would be double the effort in design, code, testing and maintenance. And that’s just not a good ROI. I’d expect Garmin to get back to pushed features to older models when the next version comes out. As long as the hardware can handle it.
Hi, 38:45 are you trying to say the touch unlock feature is a new feature on the Fenix 8 but won't be included in firmware updates for older devices eg I have a Epix Gen 2 Pro and therefore won't get it?
Correct.
Unfortunately, I am a big fan of MIP, but I don't like what they did with the plastic body on the Enduro 3.
I hope they don't kill off the MIP version of the Fenix going forward.
Fortunately, the Fenix 7X Pro Sapphire is pretty much the perfect watch for me (although I'd prefer non solar). So that should cover me for many years
As far as the mic goes,
1. The call back feature doesn't work
2. You can't reply to messages using your mic
These two features alone would make a big difference for a lot of people
Garmin need to do a trade-in scheme
I'd upgrade more often.
Great work, guys! I'm very happy with my epix Pro (Gen 2) purchase as my first Garmin last November. I'm actually okay with the new UI not coming to this watch. From everything I've seen from you guys and others the new UI doesn't add much for my usage. I know you like the new 'swipe to unlock' feature, but I just have a programmed hot key to turn the touch screen on/off that I'll argue is easier for me to use than the swiping would be (it looks clunky and I've seen others needing to swipe twice for it to unlock).
My bigger picture observation which you and others notice is not much new. But what exactly do we want (other than cellular connectivity)? I'd propose these companies waiting every two years instead of one to release new hardware. I know that's a losing battle but at some point it's too much and they're making new stuff just because it's the industry norm to do so and consumers expect the new and shiny object.
If the new strength training features aren't brought to the Epix Pro 2 that'll be telling of how Garmin is going to treat customers going forward. It'll certainly make me consider whether I buy any further Garmin devices.
I think Garmin needs to streamline their watch lineup. I am glad the Epix is no more and now it is in the Fenix umbrella. Now they need to do something with the Enduro line. Either absorb it into Fenix or segregate the AMOLED and MIP displays
Hi guys,
I bought a Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar Edition and then the Fenix 7X Pro was released. I was a bit annoyed because they improved the optical reader and it is very important. With the new Fenix 8 I have been disappointed because there is no improvement for my needs (the AMOLED screen is not important to me, neither are the diving options, I would not use the microphone and speaker, etc.)
I hope Garmin has not reached the technological peak of Fenix. I will wait for Garmin to do something more innovative and launch a new Fenix on the market
I would say giving Garmin credit that when the Fenix 7 came out in Jan 2022 look at all the added features over two years. I bet from the original day they introduced 50 new features. The down side to the new Fenix is it seems like they just were not finished yet and wanted to throw it out and they had 2 1-2 years to get this thing ready
I have a question that I have not been able to get answers to... is the actual hardware updated from the Fenix7? Meaning SOC, processor, memory (speed, not necessarily capacity), etc?
Good question!
It doesn't seem so
Saludos desde España 🇪🇦
I just bought a Venu 3 at 30% off. I could not justify the price of the Fenix 8 with so few new features. I do really like the style and robustness of the Fenix though. Will re-evaluate when the next version comes out in 1 to 2 years, I can't imagine how they will improve on the 8.
Epix gen2 non pro version is on sale already in H Samuel for £324. In UK. I can not wait for Black Friday as I just sold my Fenix 7.
Both watches are amazing, just get both ıf you are going to longer hikes, once one of em dies, you can activate the other one, I wish ıt was that cheap in my country, and we did not have to get it from other countries, it is about 2000 dollars for fenix 8 and that is insane
I think solar will be making its way to the amoled versions before Fenix 9 appears.
Also, like you say, I think Enduro 4 will continue with mips display in the foreseeable future, due to its priority of battery life (and I hope/think it will be also in smaller sizes).
I thought long to decide. In the end I got an Enduro 3 to replace my Fénix 5.
The higher price for the Fénix 8 wasn't worth it.
I would have preferred a Enduro 3 47mm.
I have the tactix 7 amoled is worth upgrading to the Fenix 8 amoled . I don't really use the features on the tactix
Def not worth going fenix 8 in my mind. It wouldn’t gain you anything you I wanted a speaker/mic or scuba diving
1) is Garmin filnally using internal sensors to stop "gps floating" when stationary? 2) does enduro3/fenix8 inform you that you forgot to click START on start of the run/bike like edge computers? 3) will enduro 3 get same updates as fenix 8 series?
I found the Fenix solar unreadable indoors without the backlight. For a solar powered watch that I can use diving, or with a compass, I will take my Citizens every time.
Screen Sice has changend!
Poorly not for the 51..
Well done! Go on
Did you have the chance to test what is the difference in visibility of MIP and AMOLED while diving?
you have to come to panama country to test the new garmin fenix 8 scuba diving, cycling and running! :)
Do you think they will fix the glitches and make the OS run more smoothly? Curious if this is an OS issue or a processor issue. I want to get the Fenix 8, but I’m seeing a lot of reviewers complaining about the glitches in the OS, so I’m nervous.
Hi guys, you both are great! Thanks for all the videos! Do you recommend the Fenix 8 for someone that already has the Fenix 7 (not the pro)? Just wondering if it is worth upgrading
All the freedivers I know just wear Suuntos. I think they have the market on lock there
Why wasn’t the Fenix 8 solar available the same time as the AMOLED version?
Are you guys finally addressing all the scratches on the watch in this video? Why does the watch scratch so easily Or garmin paying for that?
Exactly, every review I saw fetured pretty serious scratches. If its so easy to scratch, I am afraid mine would look disgusting in few months..
as a tactix 7 amoled user, all fenix 8 watches i saw on youtube has scratches all around.
Thanks for the great video. I am using the old Fenix 3 and have been waiting for the launch of the Fenix 8. Now I wonder if I should go for Fenix 8 Solar or Fenix 7 Pro?
Yup, I went to the Fenix 7 Standard Edition, from Fenix 3. Totally satisfied with Fenix 7! But OLED does look sweet!