You can count in many countries in in northern/central/eastern europe except the usual suspects. Even Germany, Netherlands, Britain and maybe Italy. But two heavies are not all in, France and Spain. Turkey also doesn't do much except getting praised for now useless Bayraktars. At least a few years should be in for full support. And maybe France steps up, maybe Spain too. Turkey should out of self interest, but is a special case as always.
When weapons are shared with Ukraine , doesnt most of the money involved stay in the USA ? ...going to the military industrial complex , which includes many US workers. So who REALLY gets the money ?
The big defense companies are the ones getting the actual money, when u start making new equipment to replace the old stuff u been giving away. However, it will open up new jobs to ordinary US citizens. So i guess someone else also wins some. But the majority of the money is ofc going down the pocket of the companies producing all the tech
That’s what I keep saying, people act like America is sending crates of money to Ukraine. It’s not even sending new stuff there. Hell Australia at the start of the war pledged 10billion in aid to Ukraine. To get around the corruption in Ukraine. We bought 10billion dollars worth of stuff from America and sent it via American shipping to Ukraine. So the through Australia created heaps of jobs in America from manufacturing to transportation
@@Giveme1goodreason Where are you getting this 10 billion figure from? I've been following this conflict closely since day 1 and I've never heard about this 10 billion dollar pledge from our government. DFAT even reports the total so far given to Ukraine in equipment and humanitarian assistance has been over 1.5 billion which includes the recent Abrams donation.
Well to be honest America doesn't need help in the military industry. It's been doing fine before Ukraine and it'll be fine after. Being kind by fueling a War isn't exactly where you want to be earning your profits. Ukraine is needing others help like an electric wheel chair helps a one legged man. It's not help it's funding a War. Ukraine doesn't have the resources to continue holding Russia in place. We do. Ukraine needs to seriously consider giving Russia the part of Ukraine that they haven't had for years inorder to negotiate a peace plan. Then they can build a strong military with the resources to keep Ukraine and possibly get that Eastern part back. Nothing we've given has ever been enough according to Ukraine and the comment section bandwagon. There needs to be a resolution or they could lose their entire Country. Russia is wrong for what they are doing but they have etched that in stone so they are doomed for a productive and prosperous future. If Europe isn't going to protect Europe with everything they have then America certainly can't continue without people being in disagreement. That's how Countries are built and how they've collapsed. That's history for us all. Trump is for the US and wants to do the same thing Zelensky wants to build a strong prosperous Country for themselves to live in.
There is another problem with the US/NATO relationship that no one is discussing. US leader ship of the Military arm of NATO. It is always an American in overall charge of NATO forces. Everyone is saying Europe needs to step up, fine they do, but if the US can veto anything NATO does then it comes down to individual countries doing whatever they can in an uncoordinated way. Also any systems that originate in the US can be prevented from going to Ukraine. The problems the UK has had allowing Ukraine to use Storm shadow in Russia is proof that the US is meddling in other countries policies. Considering all the problems Trump can now cause NATO and it's members, it might actually be worth Europe considering kicking the US out of NATO so that they can get on with what needs to be done without being second guessed and micromanaged by a party with no interest in doing the right thing.
The other side of the coin, is the likelihood of NATO to authorize FREE FIRE on Russian targets the instant the USA butts out of NATO But although Trump is my absolute LAST choice for the leadership - he is a WILD CARD... Dunno, but what's done is done and we have to move forward
The problem is that the US is the largest economy in the world. Because the US is the largest economy, it has the money to build the largest military complex.
The more one digs, the more bad news keep getting found. This is where I hope Europe turns to the South Korean military complex to try and patch support for Ukraine. The other lever Trump will have is sanctions on Russia. Then there is Hungary, Putin's insider in Europe and besties with Trump. Europe will need some serious determination and unity to make some though decisions which will never come given our modern politicians. Hope I'm wrong.
Remember the USA’s isolationism pre WW2 it started pearl harbour (it showed weakness)which resulted in the entering the war and lots of American soldiers deaths
I would say the US active policy in denying resources to Japan led to war with Japan, more than being "isolationist." "Isolationism" kept us out of the war in Europe longer than the Europeans liked though.
If the US abandons commitments it has made, for domestic political purposes, that will make all US global allies question the utility of an alliance with the US. That would make China very happy.
I agree the US definitely needs to honor it's commitment to Ukraine in return for their voluntary nuclear disarmament. Just don't forget, that was a NATO agreement, not a US/Ukraine compact.
@@msromike123 so, Ukraine developing their own nukes should be OK with you then, the US won't honor their words, why should Ukraine have to honor the dead agreement?
I am with you Wes on the inspiration of Ukrainian thirst for freedom. Change is in the air, but change can be good. I am optimistic that the author of "The Art of the Deal" won't get bamboozled by a tyrant.
Isn't Trump wanting to emulate the tyrants though? The author of that book wasn't just Trump, it was ghost written by Tony Schwartz, who now says he regrets involvement in that fiction book.
Last night I went to bed in America. This morning I woke up to find out that I was in Turdestan. So disappointing. :( Slava Ukraine. Note: I spent a week in Mykolaev Ukraine in the fall of 2013. Great people and I was impressed by the younger people of Ukraine. Very tech savvy and life loving. It does not surprise me at all at their ingenuity in this war. And another thing I find interesting is that Putin invaded Ukraine/Crimea in 2014 right after the Winter Olympics. In 2022 he invaded Ukraine again right after the Winter Olympics. Puck Futin!
@@dougkresl7538 Yeah I got that vibe a little on the Rogan podcast, but I chalked it up to a little too eager to please.. Not a deal breaker for me. He seems to go out of his way to actually answer most every question, rarely dodges the issue. The only time I have seen him deflect was once when asked about his opinion of Trump surrounding the Jan 6th riot. I think he is more of a straight shooter than the average politician.
You're surprisingly optimistic, Wes. I've been losing my sh!t and watching the bleakest old ice zombie episodes of GoT all day, trying to get my head around how the American electorate could vote in that psycho criminal, and imagining a very dark future. I'll spare you the spec fic and fantasy war analogies, but I'm not a soldier. That's all I have to digest and mentally prepare for the type of horrors that are going on in Ukraine. I fear that the conflict may go nuclear, and global. I'm horrified and soooo sad for the Ukrainians. 😥
Allow me to pose a mostly unrelated question. What does Trump mean for AUKUS? Australia is, alas, in a position of having a submarine technological gap should AUKUS be scuttled. I'm an Australian and Australia has given $4.5 billion to the United States to help increase productivity in US shipyards. This was done to help alleviate concerns by US senators about the USA's ship building capacity. Currently you guys aren't even meeting your own stated requirements of 2 submarines built per year. You mentioned China, and I don't need to say anymore about that, Australia is also a good sized to contributor to Ukraine, but consider that if the Trump USA pulls out of these agreements then effected countries may have to reduce their support in turn in order to look after their own backyard.
I would begin preparing as well. Wes, I am not as sanguine as you are. My fear is that the conditions are now set for violence around the world. What will we the US navy do if China invades Taiwan? What will we do when Netanyahu clear cuts Gaza? The world is now much more dangerous and Trump is surrounded by oligarchs and authoritarians.
I don't think you could be more wrong. The world was tranquil under Trump and violence exploded when Biden became president. At least, that's how I see it.
Yes Trump is inheriting a much more dangerous world than when he left office, no question. Setting aside the topic of how it got so much more dangerous in 4 years, I actually trust that Trump is up to the challenge. I cannot say that about the current president. Americans made the right choice in this context.
Winner , winner chicken dinner. They don't want to spend the money, and Trump did not let NATO members get away with it He once more will negotiate their increased financial participation in NATO. Trump has no intention of leaving NATO, he will however strong arm Europe to meet the financial commitments that they have made and have been allowed to shirk for decades. Of course liberals and Wes naturally spin that into a lack of Trump support or commitment to NATO. It's a false narrative, like most anti-Trump liberal bias. All good lies take a kernel of truth and distort it.
I’m so disgusted by the people in my country for electing a rapist and felon. This shame will never leave America and I am so afraid for Ukraine and democracy. I’m shocked and feel lost and hopeless. I’m so so sorry Ukraine America has failed you. 😞
Only ones that won on this was Russia and the allies Russia got. Even Europe will suffer now thanks to Trump. Im really sad today : / and im not even American, im Swedish. But i do understand that it will become shittier now for us in Europe to. Im sad for u Americans, i hope your people make a better decision for your next president after trump. Stay strong! hopefully things will get better in a few years, depending on how much damage that nutjob Trump has done during that time
Well seeing as America colluded with Ukraine to instigate and escalate this war as much as possible I’d say the shame lies well and truely at washington’s door .
Mine is up 24x7 with lights on it at night. It is up when Biden is president, will be up when Trump is president, and it was up when Obama was president. Must suck to have your commitment to our country upended every so often when an opposition candidate gets elected. I guess we should coin a new term, "fair weather patriot."
Trump Cannot unilaterally pull out of NATO. A new law was passed that only Congress can do so. Either by 3/4 of the senate agreeing with Trump or Congress passing legislation of it's own.
Absolutely correct because of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024. The idea that he would do it with or without this Act is beyond ridiculous. He still has significant leverage over NATO, regardless of lacking the legal authority of withdrawing the US from NATO.
With all respect to MLK, there is no such thing as "Arc of the Moral Universe". And there is no "arc of history" either. The Universe is neither "moral" nor "immoral", and history doesn't have any predetermined course. These are just comforting illusions we tell ourselves to feel better. The reality is, if we don't do it -- it won't happen.
A little mistake on production of munitions. Russia produces 3 million shells per year, including all artillery rounds, mortar rounds and MLRS rockets. Russia produces only 1.2 million 152mm shells a year, their primary artillery round. Meanwhile, in 2025 Europe will produce 2 million 155mm shells (western standard) and the US will reach 1 million. Russia cannot outproduce the west
So Ukraine would in real terms have to knuckle under Putin ?, I can't ever see that happening , now I can't see whether Trump will pull supplying Ukraine especially that now North Korea is involved directly but I hope even Trump will see the truth of the situation Ukraine must win at all costs .
No Ukraine must not win at all costs, at least not from an American perspective. The Obama administration set the tone for ignoring Russian aggression and annexation in the region. There are always limits, there is no such thing as "at all costs" in the real world.
If NATO had ever demonstrated that they cared about their own defense by actually spending what it is they committed to spend I would have a bit more sympathy with NATO. Fewer than a handful of NATO countries have ever met their stated commitments. NATO does not care about its defense. Why should I be held responsible for those who refuse to defend themselves? I am happy to stick my finger in the eye of the russkies. I have not trusted them since about 1995 when they betrayed their opportunity to reject their seventy plus year history of horror. I do not see Europe taking this existential threat seriously. Germany has cozied up to the russkies for decades and when called out those who pointed this out were always poo-pooed.
US chaotic energy policies and virtue signaling that we are reluctant to provide LNG to the world, is the primary driver of this problem with Russia. Watch legacy media they will explain why Russia has the EU by the balls in terms of dependence on Russian LNG, instead of US LNG. Wait,, you will NOT find that on legacy media, my bad. When Trump says "drill baby drill" he is not talking solely about the direct economic benefit to the US, he is talking about security implications created by the US not using domestic energy production to shape the political landscape of the globe. This is not simply about carbon in the atmosphere people.
I think there’s a real possibility of Europe putting boots on the ground with the expected withdrawal of US support. It’s political decision not a manufacturing one for Europe at this stage, they already provide 50% of funding and could be argued already are doing the heavy lifting in terms of logistics. The US is at risk of being pulled into an untenable position in the Arab states.
@@smac_tv If anything Trump is more likely to use a more Ukraine friendly ROE as a bargaining tool against Putin. "We are going to stay out of it Putin, other than to supply weapons to NATO as needed. Likewise we are not going to dictate NATO and Ukraine ROE. Is that what you want?"
It means Ukraine is Fed. It means my father fought on the front lines of the Korean War for NOTHING!!! None of this matters anymore because WE (including you) are also Fed my friend.
America was once a country that other countries looked up to, now it has become a minor player, with clowns in power. Australia is heading down that way as well. Sooner America woke up, better it will be for America and its allies.
I agree with trump on Israel and china but I fear he may be allowing himself to be the Neville chamberlain of ww3 when it comes to Russia. Although Poland and Germany can easily get involved and trump as a business man would be only to happy to sell weapons to them.
That really doesn't make much sense. Israel is struggling to gather and keep American support for their response to the slaughter of innocent women and children by Hamas over a year ago.. Israel is certainly no friend of Obama 2.0. If it wasn't their long standing role as a true ally in the region along with unwavering Israeli support of US regional objectives over the past 70 odd years, Biden would have left them high and dry.
Knowing how much convetional media twist Trump's words and how smart and out of the box his thinking and acting could be I hope beyond hope that the life of this man was speared to help Ukraine too. Despite his sometimes very controversial speeches, he always (at least, as I remember it) acted very reasonably. So, hopefully, he has a good plan for longlasting and fair peace.
So one side can say anything to get elected, Nazi, Fascist, end of democracy, last election we will ever have, dictatorship, jail the opposition, etc. But when the other side uses hyperbolic rhetoric to generate support to become elected, we must take them literal in every sense of the word. I like to analyze actions of politicians and not so much their words. Talk is cheap, and I am not easily offended by their jibber jabber. If you think you know what these politicians are going to do based on what they say, then your are in for a miserable and uncertain time. "I guess we'll have to pass it to know what's in it," as Pelosi famously said. The world didn't come to an end 8 years ago, and it's not going to come to an end now.
Yeah, this war will end up with Ukraine's unconditional surrender. Zelenskyy said it himself. According to him only joining NATO or nukes can save his hide at this point. These are lunatic ramblings of a desperate dictator before the imminent collapse of the regime. Well, it's a quote from The Time article. Zelenskyy top advisers say about him: “He deludes himself, ” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that. It is immovable, verging on the messianic.” According to the Economist Zelenskyy is literally screaming at his generals at this point. One Austrian artist was in a similar state in 1945.
well, I'll be horse whipped! For the life of me, I can't find anywhere that Zelenskyy uttered these words. Would you care to provide the evidence. And even more poignant when it comes to your untested so-called truths, is using unsourced quotes to push your, clearly, biased rumblings and defeatist attitude.
America did not join WW2 until forced to by Japan,otherwise it probably would not have joined.Therefore as an old Brit I wouldn't hold my breatheover Ukraine
Poland will not let Ukraine fall. "Za wasza i nasza wolnosc." - "For your freedom, and ours."
I hope that's true along with all of Europe.
How long Poland will continue support Ukraine
You can count in many countries in in northern/central/eastern europe except the usual suspects. Even Germany, Netherlands, Britain and maybe Italy. But two heavies are not all in, France and Spain. Turkey also doesn't do much except getting praised for now useless Bayraktars. At least a few years should be in for full support. And maybe France steps up, maybe Spain too. Turkey should out of self interest, but is a special case as always.
Neither will the Nordic nor the Baltic states. Slava Ukraini!
When weapons are shared with Ukraine , doesnt most of the money involved stay in the USA ? ...going to the military industrial complex , which includes many US workers.
So who REALLY gets the money ?
The big defense companies are the ones getting the actual money, when u start making new equipment to replace the old stuff u been giving away. However, it will open up new jobs to ordinary US citizens. So i guess someone else also wins some. But the majority of the money is ofc going down the pocket of the companies producing all the tech
That’s what I keep saying, people act like America is sending crates of money to Ukraine. It’s not even sending new stuff there. Hell Australia at the start of the war pledged 10billion in aid to Ukraine. To get around the corruption in Ukraine. We bought 10billion dollars worth of stuff from America and sent it via American shipping to Ukraine. So the through Australia created heaps of jobs in America from manufacturing to transportation
@@Giveme1goodreason Where are you getting this 10 billion figure from? I've been following this conflict closely since day 1 and I've never heard about this 10 billion dollar pledge from our government. DFAT even reports the total so far given to Ukraine in equipment and humanitarian assistance has been over 1.5 billion which includes the recent Abrams donation.
@@AtariPCnetYes, I believe the 1.5 billion is about right.
Well to be honest America doesn't need help in the military industry. It's been doing fine before Ukraine and it'll be fine after. Being kind by fueling a War isn't exactly where you want to be earning your profits. Ukraine is needing others help like an electric wheel chair helps a one legged man. It's not help it's funding a War. Ukraine doesn't have the resources to continue holding Russia in place. We do. Ukraine needs to seriously consider giving Russia the part of Ukraine that they haven't had for years inorder to negotiate a peace plan. Then they can build a strong military with the resources to keep Ukraine and possibly get that Eastern part back. Nothing we've given has ever been enough according to Ukraine and the comment section bandwagon. There needs to be a resolution or they could lose their entire Country. Russia is wrong for what they are doing but they have etched that in stone so they are doomed for a productive and prosperous future. If Europe isn't going to protect Europe with everything they have then America certainly can't continue without people being in disagreement. That's how Countries are built and how they've collapsed. That's history for us all. Trump is for the US and wants to do the same thing Zelensky wants to build a strong prosperous Country for themselves to live in.
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It's a new world, Wes. It might be too early for reasonable speculation but Europe just became very messy. All the best Ukraine.
Time for Europe to step up and stop holding back.
Uncle Sam is on the way out and needs to be replaced.
As a German, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your words.
Excellent commentary, very cogently phrased.
I really appreciate your reasonable voice on international security issues. Thank you.
Sweden has already made it clear that we will keep supporting Ukraine what ever and we just sent the 200 IFVs and got more in the pipeline
What you said makes sense to me.
There is another problem with the US/NATO relationship that no one is discussing. US leader ship of the Military arm of NATO. It is always an American in overall charge of NATO forces. Everyone is saying Europe needs to step up, fine they do, but if the US can veto anything NATO does then it comes down to individual countries doing whatever they can in an uncoordinated way. Also any systems that originate in the US can be prevented from going to Ukraine. The problems the UK has had allowing Ukraine to use Storm shadow in Russia is proof that the US is meddling in other countries policies. Considering all the problems Trump can now cause NATO and it's members, it might actually be worth Europe considering kicking the US out of NATO so that they can get on with what needs to be done without being second guessed and micromanaged by a party with no interest in doing the right thing.
Thank you, a voice of reason.
The other side of the coin, is the likelihood of NATO to authorize FREE FIRE on Russian targets the instant the USA butts out of NATO
But although Trump is my absolute LAST choice for the leadership - he is a WILD CARD...
Dunno, but what's done is done and we have to move forward
The problem is that the US is the largest economy in the world. Because the US is the largest economy, it has the money to build the largest military complex.
The more one digs, the more bad news keep getting found. This is where I hope Europe turns to the South Korean military complex to try and patch support for Ukraine. The other lever Trump will have is sanctions on Russia. Then there is Hungary, Putin's insider in Europe and besties with Trump. Europe will need some serious determination and unity to make some though decisions which will never come given our modern politicians. Hope I'm wrong.
@@carlkoytzan6045 EU economy combined is larger than US, I believe.
Remember the USA’s isolationism pre WW2 it started pearl harbour (it showed weakness)which resulted in the entering the war and lots of American soldiers deaths
I would say the US active policy in denying resources to Japan led to war with Japan, more than being "isolationist." "Isolationism" kept us out of the war in Europe longer than the Europeans liked though.
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Well said mate
If the US abandons commitments it has made, for domestic political purposes, that will make all US global allies question the utility of an alliance with the US.
That would make China very happy.
I agree the US definitely needs to honor it's commitment to Ukraine in return for their voluntary nuclear disarmament. Just don't forget, that was a NATO agreement, not a US/Ukraine compact.
@@msromike123 The US guaranteed their security when they handed over 1200 nukes plus delivery systems. NATO did not make that commitment.
@@msromike123 so, Ukraine developing their own nukes should be OK with you then, the US won't honor their words, why should Ukraine have to honor the dead agreement?
Europe will question the USD denominated global trade. And also Europe will deepen ties with China and Russia.
@@politenessman3901 Yes thanks for the correction, I was mistaken.
I couldn't agree more with you Wes; a strong NATO in spirit and in practice can save Ukraine.
And Europe, despite the Orban cadre.
I am with you Wes on the inspiration of Ukrainian thirst for freedom. Change is in the air, but change can be good. I am optimistic that the author of "The Art of the Deal" won't get bamboozled by a tyrant.
Isn't Trump wanting to emulate the tyrants though? The author of that book wasn't just Trump, it was ghost written by Tony Schwartz, who now says he regrets involvement in that fiction book.
Last night I went to bed in America. This morning I woke up to find out that I was in Turdestan. So disappointing. :( Slava Ukraine. Note: I spent a week in Mykolaev Ukraine in the fall of 2013. Great people and I was impressed by the younger people of Ukraine. Very tech savvy and life loving. It does not surprise me at all at their ingenuity in this war. And another thing I find interesting is that Putin invaded Ukraine/Crimea in 2014 right after the Winter Olympics. In 2022 he invaded Ukraine again right after the Winter Olympics. Puck Futin!
Given Trump's deteriorating health, we may be soon looking at a JD Vance presidency instead. Hard to say if that would be worse.
It's not hard to say, he will be a fine president.
@@msromike123 He's a bit of an opportunist and willing to say anything. That's the part that is hard to predict.
@@dougkresl7538 Yeah I got that vibe a little on the Rogan podcast, but I chalked it up to a little too eager to please.. Not a deal breaker for me. He seems to go out of his way to actually answer most every question, rarely dodges the issue. The only time I have seen him deflect was once when asked about his opinion of Trump surrounding the Jan 6th riot. I think he is more of a straight shooter than the average politician.
Worse for Ukraine if you take him by his word.
Very inexperienced sycophant from my view.
Reap what you sow America.
You're surprisingly optimistic, Wes. I've been losing my sh!t and watching the bleakest old ice zombie episodes of GoT all day, trying to get my head around how the American electorate could vote in that psycho criminal, and imagining a very dark future. I'll spare you the spec fic and fantasy war analogies, but I'm not a soldier. That's all I have to digest and mentally prepare for the type of horrors that are going on in Ukraine. I fear that the conflict may go nuclear, and global. I'm horrified and soooo sad for the Ukrainians. 😥
Allow me to pose a mostly unrelated question. What does Trump mean for AUKUS?
Australia is, alas, in a position of having a submarine technological gap should AUKUS be scuttled. I'm an Australian and Australia has given $4.5 billion to the United States to help increase productivity in US shipyards. This was done to help alleviate concerns by US senators about the USA's ship building capacity. Currently you guys aren't even meeting your own stated requirements of 2 submarines built per year. You mentioned China, and I don't need to say anymore about that, Australia is also a good sized to contributor to Ukraine, but consider that if the Trump USA pulls out of these agreements then effected countries may have to reduce their support in turn in order to look after their own backyard.
I would begin preparing as well. Wes, I am not as sanguine as you are. My fear is that the conditions are now set for violence around the world. What will we the US navy do if China invades Taiwan? What will we do when Netanyahu clear cuts Gaza? The world is now much more dangerous and Trump is surrounded by oligarchs and authoritarians.
I don't think you could be more wrong. The world was tranquil under Trump and violence exploded when Biden became president. At least, that's how I see it.
Nothing and nothing.
Yes Trump is inheriting a much more dangerous world than when he left office, no question. Setting aside the topic of how it got so much more dangerous in 4 years, I actually trust that Trump is up to the challenge. I cannot say that about the current president. Americans made the right choice in this context.
@@msromike123I hope you’re right but Trump just picked Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence 😬
If we're being honest, Europe can and should step up and help Ukraine more. Stop being so weak!
Winner , winner chicken dinner. They don't want to spend the money, and Trump did not let NATO members get away with it He once more will negotiate their increased financial participation in NATO. Trump has no intention of leaving NATO, he will however strong arm Europe to meet the financial commitments that they have made and have been allowed to shirk for decades. Of course liberals and Wes naturally spin that into a lack of Trump support or commitment to NATO. It's a false narrative, like most anti-Trump liberal bias. All good lies take a kernel of truth and distort it.
I proudly SUPPORT the Uki's and HOPE Trump steps up... I'm a lil worried Wes.
It was never about humanity ; US will support Ukraine as long as it's in their interest.
I’m so disgusted by the people in my country for electing a rapist and felon. This shame will never leave America and I am so afraid for Ukraine and democracy. I’m shocked and feel lost and hopeless. I’m so so sorry Ukraine America has failed you. 😞
Right there with you
Only ones that won on this was Russia and the allies Russia got. Even Europe will suffer now thanks to Trump. Im really sad today : / and im not even American, im Swedish. But i do understand that it will become shittier now for us in Europe to. Im sad for u Americans, i hope your people make a better decision for your next president after trump. Stay strong! hopefully things will get better in a few years, depending on how much damage that nutjob Trump has done during that time
Well seeing as America colluded with Ukraine to instigate and escalate this war as much as possible I’d say the shame lies well and truely at washington’s door .
Have you tried crying?
Ukraine doesn't need America, Australia stands by Ukraine and will help as much as it can, Ukraine also has the support of most European countries.
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I took my American flag down today, left the Ukrainian flag up.
Mine is up 24x7 with lights on it at night. It is up when Biden is president, will be up when Trump is president, and it was up when Obama was president. Must suck to have your commitment to our country upended every so often when an opposition candidate gets elected. I guess we should coin a new term, "fair weather patriot."
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Wes you are probably spot on. Unless trump can figure out a grift, he’ll lose interest in Ukraine fast
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Trump Cannot unilaterally pull out of NATO. A new law was passed that only Congress can do so. Either by 3/4 of the senate agreeing with Trump or Congress passing legislation of it's own.
Absolutely correct because of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024. The idea that he would do it with or without this Act is beyond ridiculous. He still has significant leverage over NATO, regardless of lacking the legal authority of withdrawing the US from NATO.
No, you're talking about democracy. Those who oppose will be removed. That is how it works in a plutocracy.
Adorable! You think laws matter in Amerikkka? Dirty DonOld owns the supreme court! 😂😂😂
With all respect to MLK, there is no such thing as "Arc of the Moral Universe". And there is no "arc of history" either. The Universe is neither "moral" nor "immoral", and history doesn't have any predetermined course. These are just comforting illusions we tell ourselves to feel better. The reality is, if we don't do it -- it won't happen.
A little mistake on production of munitions.
Russia produces 3 million shells per year, including all artillery rounds, mortar rounds and MLRS rockets.
Russia produces only 1.2 million 152mm shells a year, their primary artillery round. Meanwhile, in 2025 Europe will produce 2 million 155mm shells (western standard) and the US will reach 1 million.
Russia cannot outproduce the west
So Ukraine would in real terms have to knuckle under Putin ?, I can't ever see that happening , now I can't see whether Trump will pull supplying Ukraine especially that now North Korea is involved directly but I hope even Trump will see the truth of the situation Ukraine must win at all costs .
No Ukraine must not win at all costs, at least not from an American perspective. The Obama administration set the tone for ignoring Russian aggression and annexation in the region. There are always limits, there is no such thing as "at all costs" in the real world.
If NATO had ever demonstrated that they cared about their own defense by actually spending what it is they committed to spend I would have a bit more sympathy with NATO. Fewer than a handful of NATO countries have ever met their stated commitments. NATO does not care about its defense. Why should I be held responsible for those who refuse to defend themselves?
I am happy to stick my finger in the eye of the russkies. I have not trusted them since about 1995 when they betrayed their opportunity to reject their seventy plus year history of horror.
I do not see Europe taking this existential threat seriously. Germany has cozied up to the russkies for decades and when called out those who pointed this out were always poo-pooed.
US chaotic energy policies and virtue signaling that we are reluctant to provide LNG to the world, is the primary driver of this problem with Russia. Watch legacy media they will explain why Russia has the EU by the balls in terms of dependence on Russian LNG, instead of US LNG. Wait,, you will NOT find that on legacy media, my bad. When Trump says "drill baby drill" he is not talking solely about the direct economic benefit to the US, he is talking about security implications created by the US not using domestic energy production to shape the political landscape of the globe. This is not simply about carbon in the atmosphere people.
Trump is a businessman. I think if Putin doesn't accept a deal, he will double support Ukraine with a loan instead of giving money for free.
He bankrupted a casino. Think about that you utter muppet. How do you bankrupt a casino?
America already lost the war on terror, don't want to have another Afghanistan
I think there’s a real possibility of Europe putting boots on the ground with the expected withdrawal of US support. It’s political decision not a manufacturing one for Europe at this stage, they already provide 50% of funding and could be argued already are doing the heavy lifting in terms of logistics. The US is at risk of being pulled into an untenable position in the Arab states.
Also expecting Ukraine to send a Hail Mary volley of long range weapons whilst they still have US permission to do so. This could ramp up quickly.
@@smac_tv If anything Trump is more likely to use a more Ukraine friendly ROE as a bargaining tool against Putin. "We are going to stay out of it Putin, other than to supply weapons to NATO as needed. Likewise we are not going to dictate NATO and Ukraine ROE. Is that what you want?"
Trump is now the second U.S. president in history that been in office, got out, and got back in again according to my memory
Whatever Trump does, it'll make things worse.
It means Ukraine is Fed. It means my father fought on the front lines of the Korean War for NOTHING!!! None of this matters anymore because WE (including you) are also Fed my friend.
No, your hope is wrong, and Ukraine and Europe is preparing to face Russia alone. And the US people have disgraced themselves beyond limits.
America was once a country that other countries looked up to, now it has become a minor player, with clowns in power. Australia is heading down that way as well.
Sooner America woke up, better it will be for America and its allies.
Appeasement never “ends” anything, except the country doing the appeasing. Trump knows that.
Good lucky to ukraine. I hope she survives a Trump Presidency 😢😢😢😢😢
I agree with trump on Israel and china but I fear he may be allowing himself to be the Neville chamberlain of ww3 when it comes to Russia. Although Poland and Germany can easily get involved and trump as a business man would be only to happy to sell weapons to them.
It was a Republican controlled House that most recently “gave” Ukraine the last tranch of aid.
nah, we are on our own and i guess you are too.
bebe is thrilled he gets to continue his war unabated, zelensky, not so much.
don't get in a war with the friend of a president.
That really doesn't make much sense. Israel is struggling to gather and keep American support for their response to the slaughter of innocent women and children by Hamas over a year ago.. Israel is certainly no friend of Obama 2.0. If it wasn't their long standing role as a true ally in the region along with unwavering Israeli support of US regional objectives over the past 70 odd years, Biden would have left them high and dry.
Keep our troops and money in the USA.
Knowing how much convetional media twist Trump's words and how smart and out of the box his thinking and acting could be I hope beyond hope that the life of this man was speared to help Ukraine too. Despite his sometimes very controversial speeches, he always (at least, as I remember it) acted very reasonably. So, hopefully, he has a good plan for longlasting and fair peace.
@wonder_sr_land
"Smart" and "out of the box thinking"? LOL
DON’T confuse Trump’s campaign rhetoric with his real beliefs and intentions.
lmao, a comedian, just love it.
So one side can say anything to get elected, Nazi, Fascist, end of democracy, last election we will ever have, dictatorship, jail the opposition, etc. But when the other side uses hyperbolic rhetoric to generate support to become elected, we must take them literal in every sense of the word. I like to analyze actions of politicians and not so much their words. Talk is cheap, and I am not easily offended by their jibber jabber. If you think you know what these politicians are going to do based on what they say, then your are in for a miserable and uncertain time. "I guess we'll have to pass it to know what's in it," as Pelosi famously said. The world didn't come to an end 8 years ago, and it's not going to come to an end now.
If you listened to one on one interviews with Trump, you’d know he’s much more sensible than when on campaigning circus.
Is he a chameleon?
@@Ukie88 Aren't they all?
I think you guys want to keep this war going so you can keep your RUclips channels running. What do you plan to do after this? Do you have a real job?
Your statements are just BS... You don't know anything.Your opinions are just that!
Yeah, this war will end up with Ukraine's unconditional surrender. Zelenskyy said it himself. According to him only joining NATO or nukes can save his hide at this point. These are lunatic ramblings of a desperate dictator before the imminent collapse of the regime. Well, it's a quote from The Time article. Zelenskyy top advisers say about him: “He deludes himself, ” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that. It is immovable, verging on the messianic.” According to the Economist Zelenskyy is literally screaming at his generals at this point. One Austrian artist was in a similar state in 1945.
Zombie
well, I'll be horse whipped! For the life of me, I can't find anywhere that Zelenskyy uttered these words. Would you care to provide the evidence. And even more poignant when it comes to your untested so-called truths, is using unsourced quotes to push your, clearly, biased rumblings and defeatist attitude.
America did not join WW2 until forced to by Japan,otherwise it probably would not have joined.Therefore as an old Brit I wouldn't hold my breatheover Ukraine