Gen 1, 2, or 3? Which Coyote Mustang Should You Buy?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- All three platforms have good reasons to buy them. They're all great, but it all boils down to what you're looking to do at the end of the day. Maybe our opinions will change your mind.
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Had an S197, and now have an S550. I agree, the S197 was the last “mustsng” body style. But I love my S550
Also, the “let’s go Brandon” comment, take my thumbs up lol
I love the looks of the 13-14. They are the perfect mustang in my opinion! The looks, the modernization, the retro que’s and the taillights are the best taillights to ever be put on a mustang.
The 10 speeds are a game changer though, but still I would take the 13-14 if given the option.
Me too, if I could have found a low mileage 13-14 😢
@@5point0h67 My 2014 s197 only has 35k miles don't drive it much tho..
@@SiCxNeMeSiS that’s super low mileage for a 2014! That’s awesome
@@5point0h67Yeah I am only 3 miles away from work lol Got my S197 new as well
I fully agree with u
Had all 3...loved all 3...but im rocking Gen 3 now.
Glad Brandon's back.
Me too
All of the mustang are sick glad to see Brandon’s mustang is back it looks sick with that new front bumper
Glad to see Brandon back I seen one of the videos when he said he wrecked his car glad to see it back on the road
I have a s550 but I never knew a s197 could look so aggressive… man Derrick did his thing!!! I honestly think the s197 is just raw power
11-14 S197s look the best
S197 or BUST!! #LastMustangProduced
Cap
I like what Derrick said about his car, I feel like he really likes the older mustangs!! He’s old school in a young man!!! The cars looked sick sitting together like that!! The videos with you and Derrick are really fun to watch, good team together. The tour will be AWESOME, the front of your car looks sick!! Gen 3 all day!!! They are BAD straight off the lot!!!
Gen 2 it's the headlights I just love the front end more. Now I want Brandon's hood and bumper on my white S550.
It’s so clean looking
The straight tri bar instead of the bent ones just looks so simple and clean.
I love all the Mustang generations (besides the mustang II lol) but the s197 I think is the best and last true mustang generation... I really do love the s550s they just dont have that raw feeling to them.
Derek is absolutely right! Last real looking mustang 👍
Gen 1 is a no go and really can’t be found If youre just talking about crate engines. The best overall coyote is the gen 2. The one that can produce power the easiest though is the 3. As for cars the gen 1 drives like a truck. The gen 2 is refined and the 3 is perfected. The 10R80 Vs the 6R80 though just isn’t as stout nor is the gen 2 motor Vs the 3. Period! The 3 is much weaker than the 2 in regards to the motor. The 10R80 has a lot of wonky issues unlike the 6R80. Either way all 3 are great.
I had a Gen 3 6 speed FBO, kept it for 2 years, then I bought my Gen 3 10 speed automatic, its now procharged lol man this car is sick. Only complaint is that it spins out, I need to put a drag pack on it. Other than that, I love the Gen 3 its sexy ASF
I have a 2021 GT and love it. I have to admit though that the S197 front looks more aggressive.
Love my gen 2🚗💨🔥🐺
I have a 2014 gt convertible. It has been the most reliable car I have ever owned. I have over 185,000 miles, and it shows no signs of stopping. Not one check engine light since I bought it with 93,000 miles.
That’s good to hear congrats keep it going!!
Ive had a 2013, 2020 and now a 2021 GT PP1 with the 401A and Magnaride like you do, except I have carbonized grey and MT82! I totally understand where Derek is coming from on the feel of the S197 and the looks. It felt a little sketchier when getting rowdy. But the Gen 3s are just so nice on the inside, especially with 401A. I love the look of the PP1's, you can go E85 with just a tune, the auto rev match sounds so sick when downshifting, the magnaride feels so smooth, active exhaust comes in handy for my Karen ass neighbors, and its almost easy to make big power with those engines. I loved my S197 and would say its the second best, behind the Gen 3, given that the Gen 3 is a premium PP1 or PP2. S197 over a base model Gen 3 for sure!
Can you link a video telling all you have done to your gen 3 engine wise? I'm looking at possibly staying N/A when I get mines and I'm looking at 2018+ Premium PP1 A10. Haven't set on a color yet, though.
@@kingmike2088 just go to my RUclips playlist and I have all those videos for the 10 speed all in one
I love your channel and content bro! Great Job! I just upgraded my 2020 Mustang Ecoboost to a brand spankin new 2021 Mustang GT Premium Automatic with the 401A package, I love the digital gauge cluster. I chose Shadow black with the black accent package and I'm in LOVE!!! I reserved the car while it was being built so no one else even got to test drive it! Keep the Mustang content rollin I can't get enough.
Thanks brother I appreciate it!!
I personally have a s197 that I vmp boosted last winter because of Derek’s vids of his setup. But my brother in law has a 18 10speed and wow!!! It’s amazing as well. But I have to agree the s197 is like an old muscle car. But if I was gonna daily one, it would be a gen 3 for the 10 speed and interior
I had a couple S197’s and to be honest after having a S550 the S197 felt cheap. The S550 is superior in every way,especially the interior.
You must have had a shitty few gen 1s cause I have a 2012 premium and it has a fantastic interior and I obviously upgraded it to make look even better
I had a 11 GT/CS, 14 3.7 and a 14 GT Premium. My 16 GT premium was way,way nicer than all of. It felt and looked way more refined. The S197 feels cheap to me after being in a S550. Just my opinion, you do you man.
@@socalstangman4655 ooooooh he's a lil salty, lol Gen 2 6speed all the way.😎
@@1meancanam S197 is not even close to the S550 interior wise.
@@jpsantone never said they were similar or close or even looked the same if you read my comment my good sir I said the s197 interior was fantastic and I loved my premium
A lot of people complain that the gen1 coyote is a horrible drive, have they ever drove a sn95 or new edge. Coming from a 03 new edge into a gen 1 coyote it feels like a night and day difference and its sooo much more comfortable. So of course the newer the car the more comfortable it's supposed to be. So much hate for the gen1 it's not even funny people act like a older mustang is supposed to have better interior than newer one.
Agreed
Keep up the good work you my modern-day archaeologist
Lol thanks
Gen 3 FTW!! Only thing I haven't done is an intake w mine and made about 490 and I can beat on this thing daily n she keeps on ticking. Now I'm looking into boost to see where that goes....
GEN 2 engine / 6R80 is the most stout combo if you want to go boost.
No denying the advantage of having 10 speeds though.
I have raced my VMP boosted
GEN2 / MT82 car a lot. Stock suspension. Car has held up great. Derrick needs to run your Gen 3. It will be fine. Just throw some Boostane in the tank for added protection before the run.
I’m really interested to see this race because I know the 10 speed cars punch above their dyno numbers.
My old car was a gen 2 with a 6r80 and I was about to put a whipple on it cause ik they are beast
Spinning isn’t winning when it comes to planting power. That is where the Gen 3 and Gen 2 shine over the Gen 1. I tried to buy a 19 Gt 6 speed and couldn’t find one around October 2018 but was able to drive the 10r80 model 2019 Velocity Blue black out package and was in my driveway that night. No regrets what so ever!
I’ve had a ‘66, an ‘09 and now a ‘20, the ‘66 was a 6cyl, 3spd but my ‘20 is so beautiful she wins everything! Gen 3 for me!
Gen 3 all day
Buy all of them
Gen 1, because I have one.
Respect 💪🏽🇺🇸
Had an S197 3 valve, and a 14 coyote and now the S550 predator. The 14 with 3 pedals was fun on the edge all the time and my favorite out of the 3 generations I had prior to the 2 S197’s. But now it’s hard to compare both on a roll and around corners on a track somewhere with the GT500. Interior is whatever floats your boat I say. But the S550’s have grown on me over the years. I thought my 05 was the closest to my 68, but I love them all now. All 3 cars are awesome!
Damn bro let me get a stang sounds like u got the whole collection😭
2010-2014 S-197 is a guaranteed classic - probably the most “Mustang” of all the late models
I have a 2014 s197 with the glass roof and heated seats still but I traded my s500 their was no point in keeping it. It on had a more hp
Nice t shirts! Gen 3 still the best so far!!
How can we get those nice T-shirts?
Nicely done ,italian brother !! As you say , Mustang always and forever!! , I had s197 and I loved it !! Inside ,outside Gorgeous!! I know have 19 s650 and fell in love with it too . God bless, stay safe enjoy and buon natale ! FORD FORDEVA!! 💙👍☝
Thank you brother much love 🙏🏽💪🏽
@@ItalianStallion410 i messed up bro , I now have s550 . My bad. Much love ❤🙏
Can't wait to see Brandon banging gears in minion again
The Boosted S197 would smash that 10 speed on the highway. 40 or 60 roll. The10 speed advantage is from dig!!
Agreed
I have a 2019 10 speed got a gapplebees treat from a whipple s197 off a 40 roll
Ok after watching most of this vid im taking the Gen 1 with the solid axle rear no doubt. We can always slap a short block in a Mustang to make power that’s no problem
@@jeason10101 solid choice
Gen 3 for the win 🥇
Gen 1 for the win 🏆
I must be overlooking it, but I don’t see where or how to purchase the merchandise namely the 5.0 T-shirts.
We don’t have them anymore I got shirts on my website tho
You’re getting the full forged carbon interior? 👀 I’d definitely be interested in that!
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I have a manual and If I was going to go for a 10 speed it would be 2024 10 speed.. They have improved the shift points and the quickness of the shifts.. But honestly to me there's nothing like Rowing your own gears.. I don't care if the 10 speeds are faster the manuals are 10 x's more fun..
Yeah manual is fun
If you boost it and put good tires and suspension on it and tune it right im pretty sure you'd have little to no traction issues
2019 Oxford White PP1 car, 401A premium A10 here. 11.6 1/4 mile bone stock with a set of drag radials. Gen 3 A10 cars are pretty fast. I had a 2013 ZL1 Camaro before and it was faster, but it had headers exhaust, intake, and tuned by Spartan LSX Performance. I'm definitely happy 😊.
Glad you like the car I love mine
Definitely the Gen1 but the prices now for them it makes more sense to just go for a 10speed
The 11-12's can be had for a decent price still, but people caught on to the looks of the 13-14
Derek- It’s tough to see myself in something like that
Also Derek- Buys 10 speed
Lol right 😂😂
those are some bad ass Ferraris🤧 nice vid man i really gotta grab a gt500 hood for my s550
The looks of the 13-14 win hands down. If I could have afforded it I would have gotten a gen 3 coyote for the performance of course and the 10 speed
Agreed
I'm thinking about getting a new stang, but after some research,they have issues,electrical,tranny,engine,do yall have any issues.......
No I haven’t everything had problems but most of my buddies cars have been good
@@ItalianStallion410 ,everything don't have issues, my Toyota Avalon doesn't have any,Ford on the other hand does,even in the foxbodies the t5 would have bad synchronizers,and now in the s550 they have 2nd gear lockouts,Ford didn't learn anything........
@@djdev3077 yes everything has issues Toyota is nowhere close to perfect the one Toyota I had parking break broke within a week and my uncles Hylander had nothing but electrical issues….
Gen 3 definitely the best!
Btw, when you guys do your east coast tour, I would suggest the old VA Center Commons mall. Plenty of parking. Yes I'm in Richmond as well! You guys might need hundreds of parking places
Thanks for the info!
@@ItalianStallion410 I just edited my post. You guys will probably need 100' s of parking places. Don't think Kevin can handle that
@@terrywalker9092 yeah we will figure it out!!
S197 with gen 2 built!!! The Villain!!
I saw a video saying gen 3 has a lot of issues after it gets boosted past 900hp. The video said gen 2 is the best option when boosting for large numbers despite the initial advantage of gen 3 since the gen 2 motor is less likely to break down. Is there any truth to this?
Not really sure about that everyone I know says the gen 3 is a lot stronger than the gen 2
Gen2
Whipple would be beautiful on that gen 3
I agree
I love all them, but gen 3 is the way to go… have pretty much everything you have on your car!!! And keeping it n/a! Idk it’s something about the way the s550 looks to me that I just love! The body lines and the interior is just light speeds ahead of the s197! And yes the 10 speed is just a better transmission! Team s550!
Facts gang gang 🇺🇸😈💪🏽
lol Derek saying the s197 was the last mustang to look like a mustang... owns both a new edge and probably the lest looking mustang ever made a Fox bro xD did you say derek you would trade your s197 for a GT350???. I own one love the car never would I trade for a s197 but anyways just messing with your bro love you mustang brothers for life
Not lyin when my 2020 10R80 hits 3rd gear around 70mph it sidesteps and breaks the tires loose. I went 3rd gen 10r80 because I wanted an all engine handling build since I do canyons more than straight line.
That’s awesome
I’ll take my 3 valve 4.6 bolt on, amazing sound but slow aka all bark no bite! But 05-09 body style 👍🏼
Gen 3 no doubt. I still love the 13-14 body style tho. Throw a gen 3 in a 14 with the s550 interior and call it a day. Oh boost it too 😉 I want that shirt. Did you just call the mt82 a great transmission??? I'm boosting my 2020 mt82 and I'm worried it's going to blow up in my hand haha
He said he like it raw guys 🫣😂😂😂
@@richardmarquez3394 😂😂😂
Gen1 body with a full Gen3 swap. That would be sweetness.
That would be dope
Gen2 has best motor and 6r80 is king over 10r80 for max power. So gen2 easy.
I agree even Lund racing states that as well, Gen 3 is good only for Max effort NA.
10R80 is a cheat code, makes the car wayyyyyy faster than it should be, but if you wanna go fast Alex is right, Gen 2 is king daddy.
Gen 2v 😁!
If you ever boost it please go centrifugal supercharger not positive displacement
I also prefer centrifugal because it’s so much better to put the power down.
Wait didn’t they make a coyote motor for the 2010-2012 gt’s or are those also gen 1s?
I think so
2010 was a 4.6 three Valve, the Gen 1 coyote started in 2011-2014
@@BrandonMirandavlogs ah yes of course cause it was 2010 when they still used the same drivetrain and power train components from the 05-09s but wanted to introduce the new s197 gen at the time which gave them a starting platform to finally introduced a better power plant which came to be known as the coyote motors
Anyway I can buy a 5.0 shirt ? No more on website
No sold out
Technically not a coyote, but the Boss 302 5.0 roadrunner is the best engine.
I feel Derek 100% s197 last true mustang body style I gotta say🔥🔥🔥
They are awesome
S197 All Day!
Overpaid 24k? For a gen 1 with 14k miles? I wish i could find something like that in my area
Shit that seems like a good deal
Lol i paid that for 91k miles but it was what i wanted 🙃🙃
Yeah buddy get that #1 comment lol. I love the motor of the gen 3 the body style of the gen 2 and the raw nastiness of the gen 1.
Yeah I agree the gen 2 body style was my favorite
Gen 2 and 3 have higher compression. When is the race going to happen, between Cocaine train and Minion?
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Hey man if you got that bumper pre pinged can you send me a link to where you got that bumper for your gen 3. I can find the bumper but none that come pre painted
Painted*
I don’t think any of them come pre painted anymore cause they where having problem’s with paint chipping off
2014 coyote 🐺 from San Jose
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S197 all the way 😎‼️
5.0 shirts lowkey tough bro🤟
Gen 1 for looks, Gen 3 for modability.
Foxbody all day lol those coyote motors are insane tho I want one for my fox
Fox is king 😈
theres a red honda ridgeline in the background
All gens are the best😁
Yes we need the race ASAP, Derek get on that e85 life already 🤣
They did the same thing in early 2000s rounded the mustang bad move, I do like the rear but if had Derek’s front end would be awesome! They went old school for a reason
About choked on my coffee when you said let’s go Brandon 😂
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I have a 19 GT Orange Fury with just an x pipe and steeda axle back its a 10speed been great to me but if ford rolls out the new shelby with a tremec 6 speed im getting rid of my gt
I love that color orange furry I almost bought a gt500 in that color
I Started out with a 2012 mustang GT and liked that it had a H pipe from the factory so it Sounded good but when I was going past 100mph the car felt unsafe so I bought a 2015 mustang GT which I liked better after I put rear IRS stop the hop braces on it ! and then I got my gen 3 2018 mustang GT which I Love the Best because it's a Ten speed automatic and its Fast!!!!! ;)
Congrats on the new mustang
@@ItalianStallion410 Thanks Ive had it since july 2018 !!! :)
Great video bro
Thx bro
I love my 2020 10spd. I really underestimated how much I'd like the automatic. It's awesome. Perfect daily. Great compliment toy k-swapped mr2 which is goes "Jeffrey Dahmer" insane. Gen 3 coyote all the way.
Gen 3🤟🏽
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I love the S197 5.0 /6R80 FBO its fast stock but body style thats the only reason why i got it the s550 is alot heavier and looks more Euro to me but i can build and boost the motor to make 800+ to the Wheel if i really wanted too but staying stock i can make 500+ which im happy with that
u have an auto s197?
I have an 18' gen 3 with a manual tremec T56 magnum Trans (ya not the shitty factory mt82 lol) it has FBO's on 91 octane. I want to keep it all natty and try to make 600 crank horsepower or more. My plans are ported heads and manifold, cams, E85 and a Lund racing tune. Trying to be the highest horsepower daily driven all motor gen 3 in San Diego 😎
Gen 3 is the best my 2019 gt premium smokes manuals all day 💪🏾
Big facts bro glad you like it. Enjoy it and have a blessed Christmas!!
I have a 2020 gt great car for track days!
Can’t go wrong with any generation. Personally I love the look of the 13-14 the best. However the s550 with a gt500 bumper looks amazing. I do love the technology behind the gen 3 but it came with the most problems. I have a 2020 GT.
Thanks brother I feel like everything is hit or miss now days plus more tech more problems always
@@ItalianStallion410 yeah I agree. I love my gen 3 s550 gt. I do have the bbq tick and 2k rattle but hasn’t caused any performance issues. I just have mbrp Catback and recaro seats. Will probably remain stock until warranty is up. I’d either go whipple or roush. I have 14k miles so still have time to decide. Nice video bro, all 3 cars are clean af.
How much did you pay for gt500 bumper and paint and all that? Or did you install and paint yourself? Looks clean bro, I plan to do this soon!
@@ZFA1738 thanks man and I think everything paint and bumper plus install was like $1600 it wasn’t that bad
@@ItalianStallion410 that’s not bad at all. Thanks for your response man, definitely earned a subscriber!
His right the blue mustang is the last real mustang it came out!
Gen 3 is nice
Sick shirts bro I’m about to order one
Awesome rides!
Thanks brother
I'll take my 07 Grand Marquis.
With a gen 2 swap... I wish - one day 😅
s197 ftw🎉
Love them
I really want a 2014 5.0 but the prices are through the roof, I found a 2018 6 speed 42,000 miles for $26000 and all the 2014 I look at have 80000+ miles and they want nothing under $22000
Yeah the car market is ass backwards rn I wouldn’t buy used rn