@@tenofivelipscan’t imagine that. Him playing don. He would’ve been great but it wouldn’t be the same. Also he appears too old. Like steve martin he’s been gray for a while
@@kwill84 I always love people who think the way they saw it is the only way it could have been. If John had Don, maybe the show would have been once in a century awesome. "It wouldn't have been the same." Right. It could have been better. It could be that the show you think you love, that you think shouldn't be changed is, in fact, the show we had to settle for after bad decisions and compromises were made; the show that LESS THAN the show that SHOULD HAVE been.
Every relationship that Don Draper had with a woman whether it was his wife, mistress, secretary or other female employee had these two lines of dialogue.
That was the line I thought of when I saw the title of the video, but this clip is quite awesome. I love Peggy as a character, and this was a real moment for here to shine.
What I love about Roger is how he doesn't hold a grudge against Peggy. Yeah he's pissed but also rather impressed in the way she hustled him out of $400. "Do you want me to take your watch??" I about lost it at that point, freaking HILARIOUS.
It was more than 400 hundred. He started counting and then stopped and said 400 thinking that was high enough and Peggy immediately said "give me all of it" taking the 400 and whatever rest was there in his hands that he didn't kept counting.
@@uafc1 I never noticed that! Such a good detail and so clear now you've pointed it out. His expression when he says the 400 has an air of deception to it and that's why he reacts so sharply to her asking for it all! He knows she bested him lol
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Hahaa they have known each other for long. Peggy knows full well she can do that to Roger and there won’t be any consequences.
@@mstwelvedeadlycyns And complaining of income inequality when they get paid the same for the same work (they just don't do the same work as a cohort that males do, so measuring the entire male and female cohorts against each other isn't a good measure)
@@capo328 The 70% wage gap is slightly misleading, because that's mostly due to women and men being in different job fields. Plus if a woman has a child that'll reduce her hours. However, there's still a gender gap between men and women for the same work. Studies have been done that show there's still a wage gap of around 7%, meaning women make 93% of what men make for the same work. That's still a wage gap, and not a negligible one. Not to mention, while much of the differences in pay come down to different job fields, I think that's still something that should be addressed. It's concerning to me how many STEM fields are dominated by white men.
@@capo328 That's part of the issue people are pointing to when people mention income equality. It's the fact that traditionally male jobs are still really difficult for women to break into comparatively and so they still work the jobs that are 'acceptable' for women to work. The issue is better now than it was in, say, the fifties, but it's still enough of a problem that on average the average pay between men and women is still different. People aren't saying, "Pay women the same for the same work" most of the time (though there are positions where this is a problem). They're saying, "Let women work the same jobs as men without the stigma."
Twelve_Deadly_Cyns what? You’re acting like it’s a hobby for women to hurt each other or something. Sure women hurt each other sometimes but men do it just as much lol, it’s called being human and being competitive or even downright aggressive at times
"That's Life. One minute you're on top of the world and the next minute some secretary is running you over with a lawnmower."-----------Joan. Loved that.
jonwiley When you're in the business of doing lots of deals, you never put all your cash in one pocket. You have the _"this is all I have"_ pocket and the _"this is all I have, but there's more where it came from"_ pockets. You use the former on the used car dealer and the latter on the medical grade cocaine wholesaler.
Bri West, which comment are you disagreeing with? The first line is a straightforward business transaction - which demonstrates the fact that Peggy has evolved. The second (watch) line is retrograde, something a whore would use. This line only serves to reinforce the notion that all women are essentially whores. The question is, which responce would any woman truly wish to be known for having employed in THAT precise moment? Peggy is being induced/coerced (FORCED) to cover for one man (Roger - her boss) and do the work of another man (Ginsberg). She's smart enough to figure out she's in a fairly powerful negotiating position. Roger acceeds reluctantly to her BUSINESS proposal. Roger pushes his luck. Peggy delivers a line (designed by writers) purely for comedic value. The lesson here is: We can be entertained by simple comedic one liners designed to reinforce misogynistic stereotypes, or we can celebrate the evolution of a much loved, though somewhat awkward character from "mouse" via "Cinderella" and the deal making classic "Go Get it Gal" - a new invention at that time. Personally, I like to fool myself that not all women are capable of acting like whores, and credit the smart calculation as the line to applaud...;) But I stopped watching TV soon after this. Why? Because of scenes like this with their inbuilt duality of meaning and intent - which one can possibly only truly recognise for what they really are, after six years of TV free rehab.
"Do you want me to take your watch?" 😂😂 Best Peggy scene - no dialogue necessary: when she strutted down the hall to her own office holding a bankers box of her stuff with a cigarette clamped between her teeth. Priceless.
@Serena Z it's no coincidence that comes immediately before the other scene. And when Roger offers her the tentacle porn painting she says "I can't put that in my office. You know I have to put men at ease" and Roger says "who told you that?" I'd say a little bit of Roger rubbed off on her that day.
“You don’t know huh? That’s helpful.” That’s one of my favorite Peggy moments. Her confidence right there….and thinking back to when she first started. I love it.
Lootroq He was a communist leader. Roger says "Hey Trotsky, you're in advertising" in response to Peggy making jokes about how the workers are right for picketing (the opinion that Trotsky would likely have of the situation, favoring the workers).
***** Haha, yeah. To be honest, I've been seeing more and more of this type of interaction on RUclips lately - even people admitting when they were wrong or mistaken. It's nice to see RUclips maturing
People saying she would be fired in real life are missing the fact that she's doing his dirty work and also that she's got connection with Don. Also she can definitely get another job at a rival corp. And they both knew that. So she called his bluff. Plus firing someone for not doing something unethical is....well unethical. Ball is in her court.
She and Roger had a history too. She's a valuable long-term employee who's well respected at the firm. Nobody was going to fire her, least of all Roger. He knows he's being unreasonable and respects the fact that she's playing hardball with him. He just wants his work done quietly. The humor is in the theater of it. It's hilarious because you know there's no real peril to either character.
@Anne Isopod I thought that she really exuded all the subtlety the drive the sacrifice and cunning of Peggy. I can't imagine any other actress being Peggy. I think she was perfect.
Nah - the best line in Mad Men is from Don Draper: "People tell you who they are, but we don't listen to them, because we want them to be who we want them to be".
I loved when she asked Roger for Freddie’s old office and Roger was impressed. He said five guys wanted that office, but she was the only one who had the balls to ask him for it. He totally respects her awesome chutzpah.
Didn't Roger end up giving away like $1500 total in cash asking people to do favors for him in this season? And then he actually says something like "I gotta stop carrying so much cash on me" the last time it happens. Haha he was the shit.
In this scene, when Roger walks in, he asks Peggy what she’s doing tonight. She has her feet on the desk, and in a funny, play-flirty way, she answers, “Why? What did you have in mind.” He yells, “Are you drunk? Get your feet off the desk.” Without any embarrassment, she just takes her feet off the desk, and they have this conversation... and she gets the best of him. So much confidence, as opposed to the FIRST season when Don is standing at Peggy’s desk, and Roger walks over to them and asks the same thing. Peggy answers in that weird voice she had then, “Just working and then going home.” Roger basically laughs at her, and says, “I’ll give you that one sweetheart, but I was talking to Don.” She seemed embarrassed, as anyone would be. But I love the comparison to those clips. She changed so much that she went from not being able to speak up for herself, to saying “dazzle me” and taking all Rogers money and threatening to take his watch. This show is the epitome of perfection. I still binge watch it even though it’s been off the air for several years.
Funny thing is, if you watch the interviews with Weiner about the creative process that went into this show, you'd know the dialogue in this 128 second scene probably took a roomful of show writers 3 hours to contrive. That's why it's so damn good. I'm not even insulting the people who made this; I wish ALL the shows on TV had writers that were so thorough.
Alan K Sure he directs some of the episodes, but Matthew Weiner runs the show and Roger's been getting the best lines since before John Slattery started directing episodes.
Alan K It's a TV show not a movie. The director doesn't get to change who says what lines, nor do they write the lines. The showrunner and writers determine that.
Peggy Miles mom. Here. James. Cameron. Miles. Our. Only. Son. Who dad. And. I love so very much you. Make. Us proud. To. Have A. Gift. You y. Baby. We. Love. You. Very much
I love Peggy. She starts as a deer-in-the-headlights young secretary in a big Madison Avenue firm, and over the course of the series becomes a major power.
I can't watch this enough times. LOL The evolution of her character in this show will be held out for decades to come as the example of what TO do when developing a character in a series. She absolutely KILLS it, day in and day out. BRAVO to her, and the writers. MASTERFUL work! Roger: "How much do you make a week sweetheart?", Peggy: "hmm, you don't know huh? that's helpful" No doubt one of the all time best written shows in the history of television.
@@leeroberts4850 A lot of the time it does. Especially at the Emmy's. What do Bryan Cranston and James Gandolfini have in common? They won a shitload of best actor Emmy's and they are arguably the two best TV actors ever
Quite literally one of the best scenes in this entire series, especially if you consider the evolution of these characters. Peggy started as the mousy secretary frightened of her own shadow, and now she's sparring with the always cocky and overconfident senior partner of the firm. Great stuff!
I just finished watching Mad Men for the first time last month and I have to say, I think it's one of the best shows I've ever seen. Seeing this scene again (one of my favorites of the series) makes me want to watch the whole show again! Roger was the absolute best, and I love who Peggy became.
Actually he is. He allows her play with him, because he likes her and knows about her value for the company. And he enjoys her playfulness. But still he's in charge.
Kendo Kiel But he doesn't really exercise his power, he is more childish and careless. Tell me what part of "Do you want me to take your watch" shows that he is in charge? Don on the other hand, he wields his power all the time.
@@dank6617 It's a bit of both. He's asking a lot and he knows he came in heavy handed. When she decides to tax him he respects it. It's called mutual respect and this scene is an example of it. He knew he was never going to fire her and was just teasing at that point.
Yeah, I was wondering about that. How realistic is it that somebody would be carrying that much money on them? Of course, this is the era before credit cards, but still, you could write a check for large payments, rather than carry that much cash around.
Roger was a multi millionaire, in a era when that was really something. Also, it was 1966. $400 from then, in 2015 dollars would be $2,290 in inflation, but in terms of equivalent economic power $8,850 because inflation hasn't kept up with cost. Take the apartment that Pete and Trudy buy in season 1. That apartment was a 2 bedroom, 2.5 bath upper floor apartment on 83rd and Park. It cost them $33500. That was an incredible amount of money in those days. Today that apartment would probably go for about $15-17 million depending on the amenities of the building itself.
My favourite scene in the entire series is at the very end, when a hungover, tough-looking Peggy walks down the hall of the new company holding a box of her stuff with a cigarette hanging off her lip! That to me epitomizes how far she came in that series!
The beautiful thing is that this shakedown is being done by a character we absolutely adore. Show this to somebody we don't know and they'll think peggy is horrible but we know her and the world she's competing in
This is truly one of the greatest scenes on Mad Men; the 'Wheel Pitch' is still my favorite, but there you go. Somebody else said it best. "Don taught you well, Peggy." :D Remember when she asked for her first raise in season 1?
A high school buddy of mine's Dad worked at Eastman Kodak. He had one of those damn Carousels. He would always make us sit thru presentations of vacations !! the picture show was always good, but he spent WAY TOO MUCH time on the talking.
i can't remember what season, but there's a moment where Peggy calls Don, Don for the first time and not Mr Draper. it's a great moment. if anyone knows the episode, please enlighten me.
My mother says that back in the day (in the 1960s before I was born) this was what her family used to say about Mohawk Airlines.. "Better to walk than to fly Mohawk."
@Elizabeth Brower Pan Am wasn't an option for short-haul domestic flights. In the 60s, most of their flights were international, or long routes within the US.
A.k.a. "Slowhawk" and "Schmohawk." The joke was that they often landed with branches caught in the wheels. First plane I ever flew on. It was delayed in previous airport for three hours because "the wing fell off" and it arrived with what looked like a giant cross of white adhesive tape on the wing. Can't make this up.
Love how Peggy, who was later working for another firm, said it behind closed doors pitching to a potential client, competing against Don who was listening outside the door. His expression spoke volumes...
I love this scene, it’s when Peggy TRULY realizes her value and isn’t shy or afraid to cash in on it. Peggy also realizes that for this short moment in time, she has more power than a senior partner! “Do you want me to take your watch”?! I love that line!!
Yeah, more power, yay. At. This. Moment. Come Tuesday, she'll be the person who showed up a senior partner to his face. Come Tuesday, he'll be the senior partner. How much power does she have? I'm not saying PEGGY doesn't understand the situation and play it well.
Wrong, best line was: Roger: why don't you sing like her Jane: why don't you look like him (they were talking about megans performance for dons birthday)
Roger is unconsciously enjoying this thrashing that Peggy is serving up so skillfully regardless of how "insubordinate" it may seem to some of the viewers. The ability to tread the thin line between overt threat and playful game of parlay. Peggy is a natural player
One of the things I love the most about this series is seeing the evolution of Peggy from somebody who is just entering this hostile world and becoming so self-assured.
for me, the taker is easily from peggy's heinz pitch: "It's YOUNG, and it's BEAUTIFUL, and nobody else is gonna figure out how to say that about BEANS."
But we can hope. Once the West Wing went off, I took out my HBO subscription and watched the Sopranos. Then came "The Newsroom" and was disappointed. Then Mad Men and I didn't find it until after Season 2. Went to my library and rented Season 1. Am still torn whether this is the greatest series or the West Wing.
sandih29687 the West Wing was awesome for the first four or five seasons or so. As I've gotten older my appreciation for Aaron Sorking's style has dissipated though. When someone keeps his pretentious, preachy tendencies in check it's awesome like in Charlie Wilson's War. But when left up to his own devices we get that cringefest that was Newsroom.
This was a moment in the show's history. It's great watching Peggy find her strength and leveraging her bargaining power. That, and Roger was a seriously funny character.
I think Mad Men did a fine job depicting an era of American corporate micro culture, both nostalgic for those who were there and enlightening for those who were not. But that’s the thing about eras, they come to an end.
This is a great line. My favorite is when Roger gives Peggy the octopus painting and she says she has to put men at ease. Roger asks her "who told you that?"
what makes Roger likable is that he actually enjoyed this on some level
lovable!
Someone had the balls to stand up to him. It’s like when someone offers you a really good insult, you can’t help but appreciate it.
True, he bears no malice, that's his only redeeming character.
@@Cactina I don't agree with you at all. Roger is a good guy.
@@guyskillen Yes, I can see how one can arrive at this. A weak man, but not a bad one.
"Hey, Trotsky. You're in advertising!" Rodger seriously had some of the best lines of this show.
He stole just about every scene he was in.
John Slattery wanted the part of Don Draper.
@@tenofivelipscan’t imagine that. Him playing don. He would’ve been great but it wouldn’t be the same. Also he appears too old. Like steve martin he’s been gray for a while
All of the funniest lines in the show come from Roger
@@kwill84 I always love people who think the way they saw it is the only way it could have been. If John had Don, maybe the show would have been once in a century awesome. "It wouldn't have been the same." Right. It could have been better. It could be that the show you think you love, that you think shouldn't be changed is, in fact, the show we had to settle for after bad decisions and compromises were made; the show that LESS THAN the show that SHOULD HAVE been.
Peggy: "You never say thank you."
Don: "That's what the money is for!"
The line that comes to me first when I think of Mad Men.
Jgrimwald Another one is when Don says to Lane “So now we’re negotiating!”
Every relationship that Don Draper had with a woman whether it was his wife, mistress, secretary or other female employee had these two lines of dialogue.
Not Great, Bob!
That was the line I thought of when I saw the title of the video, but this clip is quite awesome.
I love Peggy as a character, and this was a real moment for here to shine.
"Don't Praise me, Raise me."
What I love about Roger is how he doesn't hold a grudge against Peggy. Yeah he's pissed but also rather impressed in the way she hustled him out of $400. "Do you want me to take your watch??" I about lost it at that point, freaking HILARIOUS.
He actually had more respect for her after she put the screws to him!
It was more than 400 hundred. He started counting and then stopped and said 400 thinking that was high enough and Peggy immediately said "give me all of it" taking the 400 and whatever rest was there in his hands that he didn't kept counting.
@@uafc1 I never noticed that! Such a good detail and so clear now you've pointed it out. His expression when he says the 400 has an air of deception to it and that's why he reacts so sharply to her asking for it all! He knows she bested him lol
Hahaa they have known each other for long. Peggy knows full well she can do that to Roger and there won’t be any consequences.
That’s like 5000 dollars today at least. The average American Income in the 50’s to the 60’s was about 4-5,000.
The growth of Peggy Olsen over the series from timid and meek to creative badass who took no shit is awesome and inspiring!
You don't know what the word meek means. Go look it up.
@@2Malachi "Quiet, gentle and easily imposed on; submissive" seems about right
It was undoubtedly the best ark of the series.
The growth of Peggy Olsen over the series is.. fiction.
@petermgruhn you are very smart!
I think Roger actually respected her more after this for hard negotiating.
Wish women would do this now instead of hurting each other.
@@mstwelvedeadlycyns And complaining of income inequality when they get paid the same for the same work (they just don't do the same work as a cohort that males do, so measuring the entire male and female cohorts against each other isn't a good measure)
@@capo328 The 70% wage gap is slightly misleading, because that's mostly due to women and men being in different job fields. Plus if a woman has a child that'll reduce her hours. However, there's still a gender gap between men and women for the same work. Studies have been done that show there's still a wage gap of around 7%, meaning women make 93% of what men make for the same work. That's still a wage gap, and not a negligible one. Not to mention, while much of the differences in pay come down to different job fields, I think that's still something that should be addressed. It's concerning to me how many STEM fields are dominated by white men.
@@capo328 That's part of the issue people are pointing to when people mention income equality. It's the fact that traditionally male jobs are still really difficult for women to break into comparatively and so they still work the jobs that are 'acceptable' for women to work. The issue is better now than it was in, say, the fifties, but it's still enough of a problem that on average the average pay between men and women is still different. People aren't saying, "Pay women the same for the same work" most of the time (though there are positions where this is a problem). They're saying, "Let women work the same jobs as men without the stigma."
Twelve_Deadly_Cyns what? You’re acting like it’s a hobby for women to hurt each other or something. Sure women hurt each other sometimes but men do it just as much lol, it’s called being human and being competitive or even downright aggressive at times
"That's Life. One minute you're on top of the world and the next minute some secretary is running you over with a lawnmower."-----------Joan. Loved that.
Jesus, it looks like Io Jima out there.
He might lose his foot.
Just when he got it in the door.
Christine Wilson he might never golf again
I bet in some advertising agency this has happened before.
Roger gets some great lines, this is one of my favourites!
That was one of the strangest episodes.
Roger seriously needs to stop carrying so much money in his wallet.
Remember this was the era before people started living on credit cards. Carrying cash was the only way to go
***** That's damn near her yearly pay too
jonwiley
When you're in the business of doing lots of deals, you never put all your cash in one pocket.
You have the _"this is all I have"_ pocket and the _"this is all I have, but there's more where it came from"_ pockets.
You use the former on the used car dealer and the latter on the medical grade cocaine wholesaler.
manictiger Jeez, what line of work are YOU in?
srbaruchi
Oh you know. A little of this, a little of that.
In an interview Elizabeth Moss said she played this scene as Roger, you can see how she kind of adopts his speech patterns, so clever
So true...and his swagger.
Yo, that’s insight cuzzo
I see it now
Amazing how people see the non-existent
I love when Ginsberg said “I think you’re pathetic” or something to Don and Don says “I don’t think of you at all”
That was good!
ginsberg says "you know i feel bad for you"
Another homage to Ayn Rand. This time the Fountainhead, however.
yeah well Ginsberg cut his nipple off i think he got his
That is my favorite line of the show too!
"THE WORK IS TEN DOLLARS... THE LIE IS EXTRA" .. That's the line.
1:10
Nope.
Yep
"D'ya want me to take your watch"...also a fantastic line.
No
Bri West, which comment are you disagreeing with?
The first line is a straightforward business transaction - which demonstrates the fact that Peggy has evolved.
The second (watch) line is retrograde, something a whore would use. This line only serves to reinforce the notion that all women are essentially whores.
The question is, which responce would any woman truly wish to be known for having employed in THAT precise moment?
Peggy is being induced/coerced (FORCED) to cover for one man (Roger - her boss) and do the work of another man (Ginsberg). She's smart enough to figure out she's in a fairly powerful negotiating position.
Roger acceeds reluctantly to her BUSINESS proposal. Roger pushes his luck. Peggy delivers a line (designed by writers) purely for comedic value.
The lesson here is:
We can be entertained by simple comedic one liners designed to reinforce misogynistic stereotypes, or we can celebrate the evolution of a much loved, though somewhat awkward character from "mouse" via "Cinderella" and the deal making classic "Go Get it Gal" - a new invention at that time.
Personally, I like to fool myself that not all women are capable of acting like whores, and credit the smart calculation as the line to applaud...;)
But I stopped watching TV soon after this. Why? Because of scenes like this with their inbuilt duality of meaning and intent - which one can possibly only truly recognise for what they really are, after six years of TV free rehab.
The worst thing about Mad Men was that it had to end.
That's not the worst. Better to quit when ahead than to drag out beyond artistic integrity/relevance. This was a smart show that knew when to stop.
I miss them...
The ending was fabulous. I was so mad he threw his career away. I wasn't expecting that!
Thank god it did. It was a waste of TV time
She's changed even more from when she was playing President Bartlet's daughter in West Wing.
I have to use that sometime... "you're being very demanding for someone who has no other choice". Genius.
doubleg137
Or as the Master in Fallout says:
“That’s quite a demand for one in your tenuous position. But... I can respect your needs”
Never use that line unless it's true.
"Do you want me to take your watch?" 😂😂
Best Peggy scene - no dialogue necessary: when she strutted down the hall to her own office holding a bankers box of her stuff with a cigarette clamped between her teeth. Priceless.
With a painting of an octopus pleasuring a woman under her arm
And wearing sunglasses indoors.
@Serena Z it's no coincidence that comes immediately before the other scene.
And when Roger offers her the tentacle porn painting she says "I can't put that in my office. You know I have to put men at ease" and Roger says "who told you that?"
I'd say a little bit of Roger rubbed off on her that day.
I lov
After having spent the whole day before drunk skating around the old office while Roger played the organ. lmfao Peggy's such a bad ass.
“You don’t know huh? That’s helpful.” That’s one of my favorite Peggy moments. Her confidence right there….and thinking back to when she first started. I love it.
I think the best line in this is "Hey, Trotsky, you're in advertising."
Henry Cobb I know who Trotsky is but I don't enough about him to get the joke. Could you explain?
Lootroq He was a communist leader. Roger says "Hey Trotsky, you're in advertising" in response to Peggy making jokes about how the workers are right for picketing (the opinion that Trotsky would likely have of the situation, favoring the workers).
Henry Cobb Stupid me, I know Trotsky was a communist leader, but I wasn't thinking of the workers. too much Schlitz's maybe?
*****
Haha, yeah. To be honest, I've been seeing more and more of this type of interaction on RUclips lately - even people admitting when they were wrong or mistaken. It's nice to see RUclips maturing
Lootroq try some shots of Old Crow with your Shlitz......yummy
People saying she would be fired in real life are missing the fact that she's doing his dirty work and also that she's got connection with Don. Also she can definitely get another job at a rival corp. And they both knew that. So she called his bluff. Plus firing someone for not doing something unethical is....well unethical. Ball is in her court.
She and Roger had a history too. She's a valuable long-term employee who's well respected at the firm. Nobody was going to fire her, least of all Roger. He knows he's being unreasonable and respects the fact that she's playing hardball with him. He just wants his work done quietly. The humor is in the theater of it. It's hilarious because you know there's no real peril to either character.
She was the best young talent they had. They'd be downright incompetent to fire her
Sal got fired for not sleeping with a client 😂😂😂
So I don't think ethic is a argument. I agree with you about the rest tho
Fired, she seized an opportunity. That's the kind of people I want working for me.
"..........Do you want me to take your watch?!......". Peggy is THE BOMB! I love her character, she 'ain't afraid of nobody! Bless her!
she's fearless
Jeff Williams Until she has to deal with Don Draper that is
*****
Ugh, I just heard she was a scientologist the other day too, or at least has "ties" to scientology. I wish I could unhear that.
*****
Who comes to mind?
I want to marry this woman!!!
It's a travesty that Elisabeth Moss never won an Emmy for playing Peggy.
I didn't realise that. I assumed she would have!
Really? No shit. She was great
@Anne Isopod I thought that she really exuded all the subtlety the drive the sacrifice and cunning of Peggy. I can't imagine any other actress being Peggy. I think she was perfect.
I loved Peggy Olsen!
Well Christina Hendricks won the Emmy. You know Tits before Talent.
Nah - the best line in Mad Men is from Don Draper: "People tell you who they are, but we don't listen to them, because we want them to be who we want them to be".
Christophe Loyce A con line for the ages. “I never lied to you, you conned yourself!” lol
Nah
That's politics in a nutshell.
Yes! I literally wrote that line down after I heard it, because it’s so so true.
I remember the moment I learned that about myself. Because it was the moment I changed that about myself.
Dames, I tells ya.
I loved when she asked Roger for Freddie’s old office and Roger was impressed. He said five guys wanted that office, but she was the only one who had the balls to ask him for it. He totally respects her awesome chutzpah.
best Peggy/Roger moment ever
Is that the correct spelling?..
Love it.
Only Pete knows how awesome her chutzpah is.
@@westmcgee9320 "I had your chutzpah."
Gtfo KIKE
Didn't Roger end up giving away like $1500 total in cash asking people to do favors for him in this season? And then he actually says something like "I gotta stop carrying so much cash on me" the last time it happens. Haha he was the shit.
he said to stop carrying so much cash when he asked Harry to switch offices with Pete cause you know, reasons
but never boring
Jesus that's like 20,000 or 30,000 today minimum lol.
But I guess the rich still carry that around only on cards
I think this is also the season where he got mugged.
Nope Harry was the first one he gave cash to. He said it after he gave it to Ginsberg
In this scene, when Roger walks in, he asks Peggy what she’s doing tonight. She has her feet on the desk, and in a funny, play-flirty way, she answers, “Why? What did you have in mind.” He yells, “Are you drunk? Get your feet off the desk.” Without any embarrassment, she just takes her feet off the desk, and they have this conversation... and she gets the best of him. So much confidence, as opposed to the FIRST season when Don is standing at Peggy’s desk, and Roger walks over to them and asks the same thing. Peggy answers in that weird voice she had then, “Just working and then going home.” Roger basically laughs at her, and says, “I’ll give you that one sweetheart, but I was talking to Don.” She seemed embarrassed, as anyone would be. But I love the comparison to those clips. She changed so much that she went from not being able to speak up for herself, to saying “dazzle me” and taking all Rogers money and threatening to take his watch. This show is the epitome of perfection. I still binge watch it even though it’s been off the air for several years.
Zoey - I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I still binge watch once a year. I always pick stuff up.
Great observation, so interesting, thanks for sharing!!
This is the weirdest fanfic I've ever read.
When it comes to characters development, i never saw any show quite like this one
I’ve watched this twice so far ..
One of my all time fave series
Funny thing is, if you watch the interviews with Weiner about the creative process that went into this show, you'd know the dialogue in this 128 second scene probably took a roomful of show writers 3 hours to contrive. That's why it's so damn good. I'm not even insulting the people who made this; I wish ALL the shows on TV had writers that were so thorough.
Then why don't other shows do it.
Writing and character development is absolutely essential to a great show.
@@AxelQC Because it takes effort and talent.
@@DaddysFlipside And a huge budget
With Weiner screaming shrilly the entire time
Random hippie dude: "How do you sleep at night?"
Don: "On a bed made of money."
-Actual best line ever
And right after that: "People are so desperate to be told what to do, they'll listen to anyone."
I think it was a beatnik, but still a great comeback if anything
Or "Hey there's cops outside you can't go out there!" and Dons like "You can't"
Don: “There is no big lie. The universe is indifferent.”
Hippie: “Now why’d you have to go and say that?!”
Gum Disease “NOT GREAT, Bob!” -actual best line ever
"Because even though all the other mechanics are on strike - boo-hoo, they need more wrenches or something..."
Roger gets the best lines.
That's because Roger is the director
Alan K Sure he directs some of the episodes, but Matthew Weiner runs the show and Roger's been getting the best lines since before John Slattery started directing episodes.
Alan K It's a TV show not a movie. The director doesn't get to change who says what lines, nor do they write the lines. The showrunner and writers determine that.
tartfuel Peggy miles
Peggy Miles mom. Here. James. Cameron. Miles. Our. Only. Son. Who dad. And. I love so very much you. Make. Us proud. To. Have
A. Gift. You y. Baby. We. Love. You. Very much
"Boo hoo they need more wrenches or something."
Roger was my favourite character of Mad Men. He knew what he was and didn't care.
I love Peggy. She starts as a deer-in-the-headlights young secretary in a big Madison Avenue firm, and over the course of the series becomes a major power.
@Gandalf Mclovin Someone feels threatened
And it's entirely believable and we see her struggle for it and deserve it
Quick wit and good mentoring
Don had the star power but ROGER's wit and wisdom was the glue for the entire series.
Roger made it all sticky.
This just made me want to rewatch the entire series.
"Hey Trotsky you are in advertising" ----great.
"Commie jokes? Come on, Roger, I'm not the one here asking people to work for free."
I can't watch this enough times. LOL The evolution of her character in this show will be held out for decades to come as the example of what TO do when developing a character in a series. She absolutely KILLS it, day in and day out. BRAVO to her, and the writers. MASTERFUL work! Roger: "How much do you make a week sweetheart?", Peggy: "hmm, you don't know huh? that's helpful" No doubt one of the all time best written shows in the history of television.
Can't understand why she never won an Emmy!!!
Because she never deserved one.
Her little smirk at "hmm, you don't know huh?" is adorable.
ben1ben2ben1 lol
@@leeroberts4850 A lot of the time it does. Especially at the Emmy's. What do Bryan Cranston and James Gandolfini have in common? They won a shitload of best actor Emmy's and they are arguably the two best TV actors ever
Her voice has changed so much from its squeaky, earnestness in season 1
Great acting!
I think it's from all the smoking
She gained confidence.
Happened to Don too when he was younger. Title and recognition do change people.
@Ben Rosen no. Just no.
Peggy roll-skating while Roger’s playing piano was a great line too. Love how their relationship evolved
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“How much do you make?” “You don’t know? That will be helpful.” 🤣🤣🤣
If you’re going to transcribe three sentences of a two minute scene at least get the words right
do you want me to take your watch? lol
That one was one last jewel in this dazzling crown.
The maraschino cherry 🍒 on the sundae 🍦 🍨
Loved that lone!
That's beautiful. I want Peggy on my poker team.
@@njits789 Scientology
I loved Roger Sterling's comment after that guy got his foot cut off by the lawnmower: "And he'd just gotten his foot in the door."
That was funny! Thanks for reminding me.
Black humor at its best
.....as they're wiping the blood off the window in the background.
...he;ll never play golf again?,,,,HAHAHHAHAAAA
How much you want?
How much you got?
Boy, he was lucky it was the same amount!
Quite literally one of the best scenes in this entire series, especially if you consider the evolution of these characters. Peggy started as the mousy secretary frightened of her own shadow, and now she's sparring with the always cocky and overconfident senior partner of the firm. Great stuff!
I just finished watching Mad Men for the first time last month and I have to say, I think it's one of the best shows I've ever seen. Seeing this scene again (one of my favorites of the series) makes me want to watch the whole show again! Roger was the absolute best, and I love who Peggy became.
Obviously, you need to watch more, and better, television.
Yupp, The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men.. good stuff. You might like Mr Robot, True Detective S1 and Chernobyl too.
@@shingnosis A couple of those are on the list, I'll add the missing ones!
@@mja91352 any recommendations?
Loved Peggy here. Roger may be the boss, but she was in complete charge of the situation.
Actually he is. He allows her play with him, because he likes her and knows about her value for the company. And he enjoys her playfulness. But still he's in charge.
Kendo Kiel But he doesn't really exercise his power, he is more childish and careless. Tell me what part of "Do you want me to take your watch" shows that he is in charge?
Don on the other hand, he wields his power all the time.
The part where the rich man gives her his pocket change and goes home and relaxes for the weekend by the pool.
@@dank6617 It's a bit of both. He's asking a lot and he knows he came in heavy handed. When she decides to tax him he respects it. It's called mutual respect and this scene is an example of it. He knew he was never going to fire her and was just teasing at that point.
“Dazzle me.” LOVE her in this scene.
Do you want me to take your watch ? lol !
Great line
I reacted the same way.
screaming at the screen like a surrounding rap crew after the ultimate punchline.
ohhhhhhh shit
TUTORIAL DE MASSAGEM - MASSOTERAPIA NO MUNDO I know🤣🤣 I never noticed that line until just now 👍🏽😎🤣🤣🤣
Guarantee Rodger Sterling was wearing a nice watch. Don War real nice Omega...
400 in 1960 is ~ 3,000 today
Yeah, I was wondering about that. How realistic is it that somebody would be carrying that much money on them? Of course, this is the era before credit cards, but still, you could write a check for large payments, rather than carry that much cash around.
Roger was a multi millionaire, in a era when that was really something. Also, it was 1966. $400 from then, in 2015 dollars would be $2,290 in inflation, but in terms of equivalent economic power $8,850 because inflation hasn't kept up with cost.
Take the apartment that Pete and Trudy buy in season 1. That apartment was a 2 bedroom, 2.5 bath upper floor apartment on 83rd and Park. It cost them $33500. That was an incredible amount of money in those days. Today that apartment would probably go for about $15-17 million depending on the amenities of the building itself.
Difference is minuscule. "and political stuff"
Erdrick68 R u kidding me??? 15+ million....and you don’t even get land???? That’s insane.
Welcome to the world@@anneb889
Ok. That's it. I am rewatching this beautiful show.
I will never not miss this brilliant show.
Roger's best ever line was:
"I told him just to be himself. I guess that was pretty mean."
This show is a piece of art
Yes: bad art
My favourite scene in the entire series is at the very end, when a hungover, tough-looking Peggy walks down the hall of the new company holding a box of her stuff with a cigarette hanging off her lip! That to me epitomizes how far she came in that series!
Don't forget that painting! So badass.
The beautiful thing is that this shakedown is being done by a character we absolutely adore. Show this to somebody we don't know and they'll think peggy is horrible but we know her and the world she's competing in
Peggy: “and you NEVER say thank you!!!
Don: “THATS WHAT THE MONEYS FOR!!”
I felt that
Peggy is the best. So ahead of her time and so emotionally intelligent throughout the entire show.
This is truly one of the greatest scenes on Mad Men; the 'Wheel Pitch' is still my favorite, but there you go. Somebody else said it best. "Don taught you well, Peggy." :D Remember when she asked for her first raise in season 1?
"and it's not "the wheel; it's the carousel"...
"The Wheel" is the official name of the episode. The carousel is the name of the product on the episode.
A high school buddy of mine's Dad worked at Eastman Kodak. He had one of those damn Carousels. He would always make us sit thru presentations of vacations !!
the picture show was always good, but he spent WAY TOO MUCH time on the talking.
Super.Chuck Did any of the guys ever suddenly run out of the room crying?
i can't remember what season, but there's a moment where Peggy calls Don, Don for the first time and not Mr Draper. it's a great moment. if anyone knows the episode, please enlighten me.
"Would you drink vermouth?"
"I'm afraid I would."
Hello 👋 how’re you doing?
“You don’t like what people are saying about you? Change the conversation.”
I loved mad men. Everything about it. One of the most best shows I've ever seen.
It was complete crap
My mother says that back in the day (in the 1960s before I was born) this was what her family used to say about Mohawk Airlines.. "Better to walk than to fly Mohawk."
@Elizabeth Brower Pan Am wasn't an option for short-haul domestic flights. In the 60s, most of their flights were international, or long routes within the US.
A.k.a. "Slowhawk" and "Schmohawk." The joke was that they often landed with branches caught in the wheels. First plane I ever flew on. It was delayed in previous airport for three hours because "the wing fell off" and it arrived with what looked like a giant cross of white adhesive tape on the wing. Can't make this up.
The greatest line (by don of course) was "if you don't like what's being said, change the conversation"
Absolutely. That's the essence of advertising in one eloquent, succinct directive.
Lee Bug: That nearly worked.
If you don’t like what the boss is saying. Ask about their kids…if they have kids. -Me
Love how Peggy, who was later working for another firm, said it behind closed doors pitching to a potential client, competing against Don who was listening outside the door. His expression spoke volumes...
“The work is $10. The lie is extra.”
Love that.
Just finished binge watching Mad Men before it goes away on June 10th. Best 3 weeks of my life.😊
Hello 👋 how’re you doing?
I love this scene, it’s when Peggy TRULY realizes her value and isn’t shy or afraid to cash in on it. Peggy also realizes that for this short moment in time, she has more power than a senior partner! “Do you want me to take your watch”?! I love that line!!
Really goes to show Peggy got as far as she did through merit as opposed to pleasing her superiors in alternative ways
Yeah, more power, yay. At. This. Moment.
Come Tuesday, she'll be the person who showed up a senior partner to his face.
Come Tuesday, he'll be the senior partner.
How much power does she have?
I'm not saying PEGGY doesn't understand the situation and play it well.
You skipped the part where she happily counts her money.
This is one of Peggy's best-ever scenes and a great portrayal of what she's about
Peggy Olsen rules.
Wrong, best line was:
Roger: why don't you sing like her
Jane: why don't you look like him
(they were talking about megans performance for dons birthday)
Zou Bisou Bisou 🤣
Best line:
"She died the way she lived...Answering phones for the people she worked for."
Jesus, that's depressing.
Everett Kitley “surrounded by the people she answered phones for”
2019 and just rewatched the whole series again. I miss this show so much! the writing , the acting ,the originality. Amazing
Worst. TV. Show. Ever.
Mad Men is in my top 5 "Greatest Shows of All Time....
Love Roger. Never could take him totally seriously as a character, he was more the comic relief. Still, he brought levity to many a scene.
I had forgotten how good this show is. Watching Peggy grow from the mousy girl to this was outstanding. Her confidently challenging Roger...classic.
Bingo- this scene contrasts Peggy asking Roger for a real office in an earlier season - it was Freddie’s old office
Roger is unconsciously enjoying this thrashing that Peggy is serving up so skillfully regardless of how "insubordinate" it may seem to some of the viewers. The ability to tread the thin line between overt threat and playful game of parlay. Peggy is a natural player
Roger: JESUS!!! lol gets me everytime
How about Freddies , "Jesus" lmao
And this Roger/Peggy interaction was the best. He does not respect women, but needs something and Peggy is fearless.
"Hey Trotsky. You're in advertising." LOL!!
I always love Roger’s “Jesus!!” Here
Knows he’s backed into a corner and doesn’t have a choice lmao
One of the things I love the most about this series is seeing the evolution of Peggy from somebody who is just entering this hostile world and becoming so self-assured.
for me, the taker is easily from peggy's heinz pitch: "It's YOUNG, and it's BEAUTIFUL, and nobody else is gonna figure out how to say that about BEANS."
TV doesn't do dialogue this good. Once Mad Men is gone, that's it.
But we can hope. Once the West Wing went off, I took out my HBO subscription and watched the Sopranos. Then came "The Newsroom" and was disappointed. Then Mad Men and I didn't find it until after Season 2. Went to my library and rented Season 1. Am still torn whether this is the greatest series or the West Wing.
sandih29687 the West Wing was awesome for the first four or five seasons or so. As I've gotten older my appreciation for Aaron Sorking's style has dissipated though. When someone keeps his pretentious, preachy tendencies in check it's awesome like in Charlie Wilson's War. But when left up to his own devices we get that cringefest that was Newsroom.
Somewhat agree. It was overly sanctimonious. But you can't tell me Newsroom didn't have a charming moment or ten along the way.
This was a moment in the show's history. It's great watching Peggy find her strength and leveraging her bargaining power. That, and Roger was a seriously funny character.
And that’s why MAD MEN is one of the greatest things made by mankind
She was the Best character on this show. It wasn’t even close with anyone else
"You want me to take your watch" = GTFO my office
"The work is $10. The lie is extra."
"I don't think about you at all" is the best line ever, so...
Except for "Not good Bob!"
This is awesome and a great interaction there’s no one “greatest line” from Mad Men. The writing on this show is exquisite.
That's why we loved Mad Men. It had the dark side covered as well.
For all the people that forgot that Peggy and Roger had a magical scene earlier in series. So good together.
"I'm in the persuasion business and quite frankly, I'm disappointed in your presentation"- Peggy Season 2
Roger (John Slattery) kills me every episode! Such a great character
How times have changed. But this girl knows her worth and is not afraid. She has balls. I never saw this show in my life until this video.
I cackled at this scene. “Give me all of it.” / “jesus! It better be good!” / “you want me to take your watch?” 😂
"it better be good!"
"Do you want me to take you watch"
I love it, good and fast design doesn't come cheap.
God, I miss this show.
I'm one of the few people on Earth that have never watched the show, but that scene was EPIC!
I think Mad Men did a fine job depicting an era of American corporate micro culture, both nostalgic for those who were there and enlightening for those who were not. But that’s the thing about eras, they come to an end.
One of these days/weeks I'll binge this show.
Peggy's evolution from Season 1 to Season 6 was some of the best work on the show!
I love how Roger just solves all his problems by throwing money at them. I hope to one day be that rich.
This is a great line. My favorite is when Roger gives Peggy the octopus painting and she says she has to put men at ease. Roger asks her "who told you that?"
this show is so good that when you post a 2mins clip saying it’s its best line, people will argue in the comments which line you referred to
Peggy was my favorite character from this show and considering the wealth of characters that's saying a lot.
Her and Joan