Silky BigBoy 2000: Folding Super Saw - Preparedmind101
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Preparedmind101 and Mantis Outdoors review the Silky Bigboy 2000 folding saw.
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When I see guys doing a review, AND they don’t realize the saw will pinch if they cut in the middle when supported on both ends- for me, I’m doubtful of the credibility of their opinions in their review.
yes i agree.i feel alot of these guys have not been cutting as long as i have and just by watchin them cut is not impressive at all.its like a guy who wins 2 fights thinks hes unstoppable. lol
Saws pinch/bind for only 1 of 2 reasons.
1) the relief is causing the wood to actually close up in the kerf
2) your saw angle keeps changing side to side.
The reason the bigger guy appears to saw much smoother/better is because his arm is well trained to saw straight back and forth. The other guy trying to go a little faster has his angle changing all the time causing bending in the blade and binding.
Erik Joven out of the couple dozen comments I read I only saw 2 useful comments this one and one about cutting from the bottom so as you cut the weight of the tree is opening the cut instead of pinching the blade... thanks for the useful comments.
How can this guy review saws when he does not know how to saw wood?
The small guy is still pushing too hard which is another reason why the blade is bending like crazy. Also when you cut logs like this then it is a good idea to do some vertical cutting along the way too so that the blade is less likely to bind as you near the base of the wood and breaks off smoothly. As others have mentioned, a few saw cuts from below also prevents this issue. It is frustrating to see 'prepared mind' so unprepared that he cannot cut a piece of wood with a silky saw. Does the saw no justice whatsoever. Even the big guy should have known to do some vertical sawing and an undercut. I lost faith in this channel from this video.
This helped me understand a lot about my technique as it was pinching for me too and my angles were not consistent, thank you!
A lot of people get confused about the purpose of a saw. It's not about quickly cutting through wood. It's about efficiency and not expending a huge amount of energy (and calories) to process wood. Smooth and controlled will get it done almost as fast.
If you are in that big a hurry then use a chainsaw.
Proper way is to cut from the bottom when the log is supported on both ends. If it's on one end then you can go from the top.
Just like a chainsaw, technique matters
Just been using my Silky Bigboy to clear some heavy brush and branches. It's like a laser cutter. Whips through anything. Can highly recommend a British Army Jungle Knife Sheath as a suitable holder for this large saw. Would happily trust my survival to this saw.
I have a silky big boy 2000 and its well worth the money, its amazing. I've had mine for over a year and it goes thru logs like nothing with minimal effort.
7:55 I LOL'd at Will: "You mad bro?" Chris: "Jessica was getting upset."
Great video guys, thanks for sharing. I live in Alaska I'm 46 and am an avid Woodsman, hiker, Hunter, bushcrafter since I was about 16. If I'm not at work I'm in the woods and a little over a year ago I bought the silky pocket boy, the big boy, and the gomboy. The gomboy has broken 3 times on me. I'm not a fan. The pocket boy is awesome and works great!!! The big boy is amazing and jas never failed me I love it
It baffles me that people had the option to take a katanaboy on that show and instead opted for other saws, with the exception of the guy who makes his own stuff and thus has a familiarity advantage, people really don't know their gear well on that show.
That saw Mary Kate has looks like something you find at a garage sale. Very small clearance.
+Canadian Prepper Just on how easily you can bend these saws Id probably take my bow saw over the others and I own a Gomboy and I do love it.
Love silky saws!
great video. silly saws are fantastic to use. There is a little technique involve to prevent flex; this is a pull saw, do not put pressure on the push.
silky* auto correct is a pain.
If the log starts to pinch you can have a small wedge prepared to stick in the top of the area that will keep the pressure off of the blade. Takes less than a minute to carve a small stick into a wedge. It might just save you breaking a saw blade too.
When my silky binds I just undercut it and it works great.
Used mine in 0 degree temps and got some blade flex which caused the blade to snap in half. Good to know you can buy replacement blades.
good to see you've finally changed your opinion on silky saws. I remember your other video said that the saws are just personal preference and they were pretty much the same when comparing Laplander to Silky. I guess when you get used to using the silky you realize that this isn't so.
Silky rocks! I have the very same saw, and it never let me down in the 2+ years I've been using it.
I didn't even had to sharpen it yet.
PS: the Katanaboy is even better, thoug it's a bit too big to be confortable on smaller pieces.
PS2: this saw has teeth studied for green wood... the medium teeth are way better on dry/dead wood.
These type of saws are not supposed to be sharpened.
In fact, can NOT be sharpened.
I have had the Bigboy 2000 for almmost2 years now and it is an awesome saw. Its the one I hike the mountains with here in Colorado. The size and weight are minimal especially when you get a saw that can cut through large trees with ease. I just got the Katanaboy 650 a few months ago... a little large to hike with but if you want to really cut down some stuff it is a BEAST!
I use a Corona saw all the time. There are a lot of time that it will replace a reciprocating saw. Specifically if I am building a rough structure or demolishing an old one. Eats through 2x4's like butter.
Coronas are my favorite budget or not, I have all the popular folding saws, and the Corona outperforms them all
the reason i bought mine, altho as of now i havent gotten it, is so i can do that under cut to prevent that pinching. have you tried using it upside down, and was it effective?
That looked to be a Gomboy 210. I have a 240, fits well in my pack and there is also a 270.
and 360, 390, 500 650...and a 1000mm...
Chris, don’t cut the wood between the supported ends [support---cut-support. The kerf is closed up as the wood sags under gravity, which causes the binding you experienced. Instead, position the wood so one end is overhanging the support, and cut off the end [support---support-cut-end]. No binding as the kerf will be opened up by gravity. So a
About the six minute mark you should have been standing about two paces to your left so the fork in the tree holding the log was between where you were cutting and the end of the log on the ground.
+Mark Dancer Yes, I know why. The support is higher than it looks. Working with what I got, where it is. Camera angles and such. Usually I can blow though it fast enough not to matter but that time it got me. I don't edit my videos so I always look good. You miss the learning points. It feels awkward to me cutting at chest level.
silky f150 is my favorite budget saw. 27 bucks. Works like a champ! very comfortable to use.
I have one question. As far as the Silky Gomboy, what size diameter log would you think is the max for this size of saw? What I'm interested in doing, and the reason I ask, is because I want to make a "table" to put my quick stove on or my isobutane burner on. I want something elevated off of the ground for my burner and stove. Off the ground and out of the snow. I need a stable flat surface. about eight in or so. Plus I don't want an oversized, expensive saw.
good point. . teeth are made for a pull cut.. pointless to put pressure on the push stroke. . following that rule it glides thru stuff with little effort
is there a difference between the yellow and the orange models?
I have a pocketboy saw and I haven't been disappointed with my purchase once. Definitely looking to get a larger silky, perhaps not this one, but something larger than the pocketboy.
So I'm curious would you prefer a folder or one of the fixed blades?
Oh yeah...since someone is going to ask... Amazon will not let me add them to the store for some reason. Says it's not allowed on Associate stores. Never seen that before.
+PREPAREDMIND101 That's weird, grrr.
I just bought the yellow curved BIG teeth BigBoy 2000. If I like it I'm buying the Katanaboy for my war wagon. they look wicked and seem to cut like a hot knife through butter. Finally subscribed. Hint from a guy who has cut a LOT of wood and owns timberland.. use that wonderful curved tree branch, extend the log as far as you want to make a cut plus a few inches and lop off pieces one by one to drop on the ground
Can't go wrong with any of the silky saws.
Eh, I need something more reliable than this for long term off the grid, as in years. Any suggestions?
I got one about 2 months ago shipped here to the Philippines. Made short work tree trimming. I have a Bahco Laplander it's fine for small stuff but if you want fire wood for all night and not work yourself to death this is the deal. First of June Ill be ordering the Katana Boy 650 for the really big stuff.
dude, you are a badass. I have the 500 and want to get the 650...let us know how killer that 650 is!
The 650 is off the list for now. I'm having to save up a ton of money real fast for a possible bugout to Thailand. The new President Duterte gets sworn in 29 June and swears a blood bath. This is his quote "the fish in Manila Bay will be fat from all the bodies he puts there". may not be safe to stay.
Louis Becke oh shit. be safe and keep us posted.
The wife is very upset about it all. I took her to Thailand last Jan and she loved it. these things can turn on foreigners being blamed for all their problems very fast. Duterte has already threatened to cut political ties with the U.S. Actually Duterte is not the problem. If he kills all the criminals and corrupt politicians which he has promised to do there is billions in illegal money at stake and it's the reaction of the criminal infrastructure here that will be the real problem.
Louis Becke damn...keep ure head down and ure powder dry!!!
Is this supposed to click into the closed position? I just got one and it doesn't click closed.
Thank you for your review...that helps alot....thinking about a Gomboy!
Cuts like butter
Hello there, i am from western NY i have a ton of hard wood where i camp. Whats a good folding saw Thats affective fot that? I use a SB 60 at the moment. .
I love the Silky
Small and medium teeth have their place too. Large teeth are best for felling, green wood, and frozen wood. If you are dealing with really dry stuff, bamboo, or bushcrafting, the fine teeth are better. The good news is, you can buy the coarse tooth version and grab a spare blade in a finer profile. I hear that the spare blade will even fit in the carrying case with the saw. Changing blades takes a few seconds.
Received my silky big boy 2000 today. I guess I need a sheath for it since it has no locking mechanism wile closed (folded). What would you suggest? Thank you in advance! Pat
How about the new curved blades of Silky under the ACCEL name? Will there be an advantage over straight one?
+MaverickIQ They are on my to-do list. Robert Allen (Sigma3) recommends that one.
Folks need to keep in mind, the bigger the log, the bigger the saw, same goes for medium teeth vs large teeth. For small sticks, I've found the smaller saw with a medium tooth cuts smoother with less grabbing. One other thing to keep in mind, soft woods like pines with more sap, a larger tooth gums up less than a medium. In any case, I carry a spray can of WD-40 for lube to help with binding. Thanks for the demo guys.
One o the Biggest Blades I ever "Saw"! HAHAHAHA! Thank you guys for the Awesome reviews!
Nice chris! Silky saws are great! I use nuttins trick with the wd on the blade. It makes a huge difference in the cutting speed and the saw blade getting hung up. Also, if you have the wood propped up where you make the cut, the blade will not get bound up.
A good way to Fock the pinch problem is to place the tree on a rock, 2-3' put your foot on it, then let the price you want to cut off over hang. Just like if you'd be using a skillsaw "circular saw". When you cut like that with a skill saw it binds. And wants to come flying at you if you don't have the price overhang. Same concept.
I got the big boy about a month ago and I love it! Been eyeing jessica x for awhile now too, but my funds are tapped, love the design though, can not wait til I can get her!
Awesome saw. I know some folks prefer to use an axe on larger wood, but if its hard wood, a large saw will win every time. I have a Fiskars folding saw, its nothing to brag about but when it comes to cutting hard wood, its easier to saw it through it then it is to chop through it.
great video !! the bigboy is a great saw ... my son broke 4" from the
tip last year and a new blade cost like 30.00 kind of high but these are
really great cutters.
I love folding saws, just got one and wouldn't trade it for anything. Replaced my yucky bow saw that just sits and rusts now. I would have two of every decent folding saw if I could.
Do you use a different haversack setup in the outdoors or does it stay as your general purpose/personal kit?
is there a law from using 2 hands?
Row, Row, Row. Silky's are made for a pull stroke obviously. The push stroke is just the set up for the real cutting.
That's how I snapped my first silky blade... dropping a dead standing tree. I love my Gomboy 240!!!
Why did you guys stop doing the "Alone" reviews?
Cheers Mate!
dry wood. Cut it 3/4 of the way (or stop when it wants to pinch), turn it, step on it. It saves so much time and energy. That's how I do it anyway! Sorry for my english i'm form Qc.
I'm a fan seems to be an excellent saw.On another note I think will, jess&you make a great team.Thanks for another great vid and necessary info
Nice review. Love my silky saws!
hey u prob cut more than me but ur hand should be near the middle or back of handle.
It's 03:43 in the morning and I am watching people saw.
0100 CST. here.
😂😂😂
@@joelvansickle3623 It’s 04:35 in the morning and I am reading replies to a 2 year old post, apparently written by me :D
@@whynottalklikeapirat I love that!!! I can't stop laughing!!! Get some rest
@@joelvansickle3623 That has been my objective for quite a while. Not as easy as it sounds =.O
I've been using small pull saws for years to make fine cuts in cabinetry and lath walls and my saws usually fail by snapping off after being bent and straightened too many times, which happens when the saw gets pinched right before the push stroke.
I just bought one. Thanks. :P
actually I like using this saw more than using a gas chainsaw especially with silky gomboy 240 I like it with green maple works great when you take your time cutting not much effort good outside exercise and no noise so quite while you cutting with it.
great for larger diameter. I have the Corona, myself and like it
It's going to pinch every time when you cut in the middle... cut off the end let the piece of wood drop
I know, really amateur of these guys.
Any bushcrafter knows you cut the end off with support just back from the cut. Also undercut first. Then top cut.
I want to use a Big Boy to harvest firewood while camping, what size teeth would you recommend?
+Brett Skinner Honestly, I got rid of it. I use the Zubat for most everything.
I see your wearing your Jessica-X with the Yellow Hawk bandolier. How do you like it?
+Patrick Childress Actually, that's my C2GFAB one. I have the same sling on both.
Chris, love your vids. On this one I want to point out that both of you got hung up because the logs were supported at the ends. Just 20 seconds to prop them on something inside the rip point would have prevented all your frustration of the blade binding.
+tornadokat yeah, I know
I noticed on another review of this they were spraying somthing on the blade to keep it from binding but I dont know what it was. Some kind if oil maybe?
+Mr5cylinders It was binding because I was cutting south of the support, not because it needs lubrication. But it's an interesting idea I intend to try.
+Mr5cylinders It was probably WD-40 that they were spraying. It helps a little, but like Chris is saying, to avoid binding it's all about cutting on the right side of the support.
That standing tree at 12;00 or so is locust and that stuff is extremely hard. The only reason for bending a blade I can see is you're trying to still cut on the forward stroke.
You can avoid the pinch by starting your cut on the opposite side of the support limb.
good review. I little big for my liking but I appreciate the work you do.
I'd love to see you two do the Dual Survival show. However you don't fight enough on camera.
... Jessica-X to the Rescue.
Does saw review
Pinches saw blade and can't figure out why
nice schrade on your sholder
If you cut the free end of the log it won't bind.
Those big folders look cool (especially the katanaboy). What would be the advantage over a folding bow saw like a bob dustrude besides reach ? The prices are comparable. Thanks for sharing !
+SurvivalComms For one, you don't need to have minecraft hands like you do on the Bob Dustrude.
+PREPAREDMIND101 LOL minecraft hands - like lego hands....
the blade can fit in tight spots. the bow saw cant.
excellent point ! Thank you.
Hi. Nice saw and another good video. Just one question. Why you saw this wood from this side of tree ? You had nice, natural sawing platform on the other side of tree. It could avoid stucking saw into wood and it's safer.
+Grzegorz Kondracki I'm going to be answering this one a lot. Better copy/paste. It's higher than it looks. Camera angles sometimes rule the day. Obviously in a perfect world. If it's a tree branch, then fine. But big stuff feels better cutting no more than waist high.
Random, I know, but what watch is Will wearing in this video (like at 9:20 -ish)? Looks like the Timex Expedition? I really want one of those lol.
+kpw528 The one I had pre-Suunto
How much is that Kydex rig for Jess x?
Nothing better in my opinion. I'm a Laplander guy to but no comparison between the two......The saw was designed to bow, not a big deal
I'm going to have to try out a Silky saw one of these days. The Gomboy looks like a good size to put in a backpack.
I've had the Fiskars and the Bahco and they both do pretty well, but you never know if you'll like something else better if you never try it out.
+Country Prepper you've barely dipped your toe into the saw pool then...
Yeah so many great toys, never enough money lol
+Country Prepper start with the Corona. Only $17 at Lowes.
I'll give that a try, thanks!
cut on the other side of your holding tree so it free falls and it won't pinch
So Chris, the question is! What is your favourite folding saw? And what would you recommend more, the corona or a silky gomboy? 🤔 no doubt after seeing this I have to get a Bigboy! Lol
+FailSafe I don't have a favorite "one saw". Depends on the application, and how big of wood you are trying to cut. Gomboy rides in my 72hour bag. Corona is pack mounted. Bigger firewood is where you start getting into stuff like this, or a larger bow saw. But at the get-go when you are starting out on a budget, it's hard to say no to the Corona for $17.
+PREPAREDMIND101 100% agree on that, for the price of the corona why not get two! Thanks for the input, once again awesome video! 👍🏻
Nice!
Good thing for cross cutting
Great way too stuff your Saw lift it forward then Draw the saw backwards on the Cut! Anyway each to their Own…. Have Fun Boy’s
The JessX keeps saying LET ME DO IT !!!!! oh hey, yep and there she is! kerpow!
thats when and why they bend and break the pinch
i snapped mine the first log i sawed, i didnt know they only cut on pull so i pressed super hard.Great performance but a little wobbly
You allso could drive a small wedge in the cut to keep it fron closing on the blade.
Bro, position the log so that the end you'r cutting off is allowed to just fall off. You prevent binding this ways since the top of the cut starts to open up as you go, preventing the binding you experienced. You're just asking for binding by the way you did it.
Will, QUIT choking up on the handle, my dude. Grab it from the opposite end! Don't push down and forward! It will bind and dull. It's a Japanese blade. It cuts on the pull stroke.
And put the fulcrum underneath the cut! Your wood is grabbing the blade. Hahahaha. I love y'all, but FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, KIDS!!!
YOu were pulling in a sideways pinch direction that's why it got stuck even after you turned it
Do you think you'll ever do any mock BugOut videos or general overnighters or anything similar? I know I'd enjoy watching them.
Try the Silky KATANABOY 650mm; I recommend.
Alone: Making the Cut shows Mike Lowe and Jose Martinez Amoedo with what appears to be the Silky SUGOWAZA...waiting to see if they work well for them. Same number of teeth per inch (5.5) as the Big Boy but the blade is curved more.
Did you guys ever figure out what you were doing wrong.....?
+COMMON SENSE SURVIVAL Which part? Lol. Not my best... Sometimes getting the right camera angle makes you do things bass-ackwards
propping your log in that manor is an automatic pinch point ....for any saw....let the wood hand free and drop.... it will never pinch......a small cut on the under side will keep it from splintering on those last couple of strokes.....luv your stuff bro ... would like to meet you some time .....(Y).....Sven E Munck ....FB
Great job guys... I don't own any of the Silkys yet, but it's coming in my near future... Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience on this awesome saw, I appreciate it gentlemen.
Should have pulled the tree further through the support tree, and cut it from top to bottom. The wood would not have fell in on itself which created the friction pinch point, but fell from itself avoiding it all together.
Be careful so it doesn't break? Great saws for a survival situation.
What ever your doing with it your doing it wrong mate... best saws money can buy