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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @michaelr8401
    @michaelr8401 4 года назад +95

    the "secondary position" you were wondering about is for cutting wood directly on the ground. So the blade won't dig into the ground when you cut on an angle. Hope that helps. Thanks

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  4 года назад +11

      Wow never knew that! I’ll have to try it. Thanks!

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach 3 года назад +14

      Ive also found the second position to be great for above the head cuts. The second angle helps keep sawdust from falling directly into your face.

    • @ricklane1693
      @ricklane1693 18 дней назад

      And it saves your knuckles :)

  • @richandrews4488
    @richandrews4488 4 года назад +34

    The oval hole that you are asking about at 10:30 is meant to provide a place to grip the blade when you are opening the saw.
    Pinch the hole between your thumb and index finger and pull. It helps when you have wet conditions.

  • @billwatson3527
    @billwatson3527 4 года назад +28

    if you are pruning a tree the proper way to saw it is to cut it partway from the bottom and then cut from the top. That way the bark doesn't rip down the tree and damage it. That is what the second position is for. Too make it easer to make that cut from the bottom.

  • @AtomicBleach
    @AtomicBleach 2 года назад +9

    The F180 will definitely work for most backpacking adventures. It's lighter than the smallest pocketboy. Most saw per oz that silky makes. The big boy is definitely one to own if you want a saw to handle any condition around camp. I often use the 2nd cutting angle when cutting branches over head. It helps with angling the sawdust away from your face.

  • @PhilKawasaki
    @PhilKawasaki 3 месяца назад +2

    “There’s nothing bigger or better about it, it’s just that it’s bigger” love it 😂

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  3 месяца назад +1

      😵😂

    • @PhilKawasaki
      @PhilKawasaki 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ReviewOutdoorGear just ordered myself a big boy, chose the professional one after watching a few other videos but this was still a great video, thanks for the information!

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  6 дней назад

      Oh nice! The big boy is definitely a good saw. I’ve been using one for years.

  • @Climax510
    @Climax510 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much. I was seriously having trouble deciding without actually using or seeing use. Much appreciated brother and I love your channel btw. I subscribed

  • @bettythebutcher
    @bettythebutcher 3 года назад +10

    The Gomboy 210 and 240 now come in a curved blade as well (they're called the 'pro' versions). Curved def gives more power. Gomboy is the best all-around saw I think: compact for packing, fast for firewood, and throws good sparks off a ferro rod (in fact you can just use a good hard rock, quartz etc. in a pinch since it's high-carbon steel). Yet it also gives a smooth enough cut for woodworking projects. Straight blade might be better if you're using it for carpentry perhaps.
    Orange handle = curved blade I believe (both curved Gomboys have orange handles, as does the curved Bigboy).
    Oh, and you don't sharpen these blades, you eventually replace them. I've never met anyone who's had to replace the blade though :)

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  3 года назад +1

      The curved blades are only used with large and extra large teeth, which have red or orange handles, respectively.

  • @sundaymorninghikes6275
    @sundaymorninghikes6275 2 года назад +2

    Great explanation and demo! You sold me on it with the 10" log!

  • @freethinker5225
    @freethinker5225 Год назад +2

    I had the ultra accel for 3 years and didn't go to camp without it...just recently lost it in the snow 😐 I paired it with a mora garberg for batoning and we had wood to keep our fire going 24/7 for 3 days in a matter of 30 minutes

  • @jordanezell5132
    @jordanezell5132 2 года назад +1

    This makes me want a folding machete even more! How strong is the locking mechanism? And which is more likely to fail, the blade or the mechanism?

  • @user-mj3fk4hg2l
    @user-mj3fk4hg2l Год назад

    We tried aZengear folding saw and it turned out to be very handy. The grip is comfortable and it doesn't slip. The price is reasonable compared to other saws on the market. Highly recommended!

  • @filipbiaonski9764
    @filipbiaonski9764 3 года назад +4

    Great video, just bought orange one yesterday, and now I can't wait for it to come :-)

  • @3ctaylor1
    @3ctaylor1 4 года назад +2

    Nice video. Love these saws. I use the hole to open the blade. Like a thumb nail catch

  • @douglasbenoit5075
    @douglasbenoit5075 3 года назад +6

    I am a timber framer and I use these saws for cutting joinery. It is great that they make saws with straight blades for wood working. I guess different strokes for different folks.

  • @joetexas1546
    @joetexas1546 4 года назад +4

    Love my Silky Zubat!

  • @morgholm
    @morgholm 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hello, nice collection. For many years I have been using Bahco folding saws for wood, model 396 JT with a unidirectional cutting direction and teeth identical to those in Silky. Laplander works worse in wood, but will cut a plastic pipe or animal bone. the large Silky tempts with the convenience of work, but discourages with the fragility of the blade :( In my opinion, the broken tips in the saws disqualify them for field work, even though they are great tools for carpentry. Regards.

  • @wolfeadventures
    @wolfeadventures Год назад +1

    If you had to get one saw for backpacking and cutting mostly pines for small fires which one would it be?

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  Год назад +1

      It would be the F180. It’s light and the perfect size.

  • @tmac6949
    @tmac6949 3 года назад +2

    I love and own about 7 silky saw all folding. Silky can't be beat but their are saws as good at least 1 brand and i own 4 of those.They work on the pull back technique. The name of the saws are Felco. Silky has a larger line of saws but if you like silky add some Felco's to you collection. I'm getting ready to but the Kattenboy. I watch a lot of these guy's doing video's on the saws and I'm surprised that if they would change their technique they would get thru the cut faster. Stihl is also as good but the price on stihl ooch.

  • @barnaclebill1615
    @barnaclebill1615 Год назад +1

    I appreciate the great review and will look to purchase a couple sheaths. 😁👍👍🇺🇸

  • @thomaslcrawford
    @thomaslcrawford 3 года назад

    EXCELLENT review! THank you. I have wanted to learn about these saws since I first saw Virtuovoice mention them alongside his many Bark River knife collection. I'm hopping over to Amazon right now to decide between a BigBoy and a Gomboy.

    • @seanmack7441
      @seanmack7441 2 года назад +1

      Get the bigboy medium, you won't regret it

  • @basicinfo.9315
    @basicinfo.9315 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Wish someone would do a comparison between the silky 240 landscape saw and the silky 240 professional model. They both look the same except for the price

  • @blueskeleton7744
    @blueskeleton7744 Год назад +1

    Drove me nuts that you didn't mention the style number to the big boys, you said the numbers to the Lil ones but we were waiting to hear you finish the numbers for the black and orange handle ones and you didn't but we did enjoy watching

  • @PatrickPierceBateman
    @PatrickPierceBateman 2 года назад +1

    Do you know if the sawblades for the Bigboys are interchangeable? I like the one with the black handle but it's medium tooth and I need a large tooth sawblade.

  • @unifiedyogi7933
    @unifiedyogi7933 3 года назад +1

    I'm sold on the larger big boy saw. My only question is after you sawed the log off the fallen tree, can you turn the log vertical and cut it the long way in half? The saw can clearly make a round top stool no problem from wha your video shows, but i'm also wondering if it can cut the long the long way to make more of a bench style seat?

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  3 года назад

      the saw isn’t intended to be a ripping saw, but it will still cut the long way. It will just be slower than across.

    • @unifiedyogi7933
      @unifiedyogi7933 3 года назад

      @@ReviewOutdoorGear interesting thanks for the info

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach 3 года назад +1

      @@unifiedyogi7933 The silky nata is great for splitting logs vertically. Its an absolute power house for splitting kindling.

  • @nemanjagradinac5419
    @nemanjagradinac5419 4 года назад +2

    Jesus! Mate that was so quick! Wow

  • @escapetherace1943
    @escapetherace1943 2 года назад +3

    The one with larger teeth has a curved blade so it doesn't jump around as much, and the medium teeth and smaller are straight because they have more bite points...
    that said I prefer the large in general and the curved ones, the more aggressively curved ones are sweet

  • @mamoulian621
    @mamoulian621 Год назад +1

    great information thank you!

  • @quinnwarman5139
    @quinnwarman5139 4 года назад +5

    Silkys are the best I love mine

  • @RossInTheWild
    @RossInTheWild 11 месяцев назад

    Very informative! Great video

  • @michaelbrock6222
    @michaelbrock6222 7 месяцев назад

    which bigboy would you recamend large tooth or xl tooth

  • @kroenen6661
    @kroenen6661 3 года назад

    Gomboy 240 is love

  • @romaldothomas8653
    @romaldothomas8653 2 года назад +1

    Great video thanks

  • @Omnivorous1One
    @Omnivorous1One 9 месяцев назад

    Can you swap out a curved blade for a straight blade or are the handles not capable of doing that?

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  9 месяцев назад

      Yes you can swap out the blade, but it might not fit as well into the curved handle.

  • @selitoskuldakis2209
    @selitoskuldakis2209 3 года назад

    Love it, gonna get one now

  • @marep90
    @marep90 4 года назад +1

    I like the video, you did a very nice job with those saws. I'm trying to decide between 210 and 240 to carry on my backpack and some general use. Which of those ones do you think that is more versatile?

  • @kevinbungles
    @kevinbungles 4 года назад +3

    Excellent review with good actual examples

  • @hendrikarqitekt6286
    @hendrikarqitekt6286 4 года назад +4

    very very interesting, finally i now what to buy

    • @hendrikarqitekt6286
      @hendrikarqitekt6286 4 года назад

      so i think at the end i saw the bigboy 2000-360-6.5? yes?

  • @wasco035
    @wasco035 10 месяцев назад

    Great video! Here in Serbia I have found 240 /8.5 99€! I think that's a ripoff lol!
    So I'll have to try to find in neighbour
    counties.
    What's the model of the watch u are wearing?

  • @JakeRidesBikez
    @JakeRidesBikez Год назад

    I believe the orange handle denotes a curved blade (as opposed to straight)

  • @mobilegamersunite
    @mobilegamersunite 2 года назад

    Gomboy 240 outback FTW!

  • @WiseSilverWolf
    @WiseSilverWolf 4 года назад +1

    What gloves are you using for safety? btw if you buy the saws directly from Amazon Japan its cheaper than buying them from Amazon USA, they have the Silky Katanaboy for ¥8,000 in the Japanese Amazon which is about $80 USD.

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  4 года назад

      Oh wow good to know! They are a pair of Wells Lamont riding gloves. Although I’ve since upgraded to a pair of Iron Fencer gloves. They are tougher and last longer.

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  4 года назад

      I get a message saying they can’t ship the katanaboy 500mm to the USA 😔

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach 3 года назад

      They are much cheaper on ebay buying directly from japan. You can pick up a bigboy 2000 for $65 and the katanaboy 500 for around $100, the 650 around $190.

    • @WiseSilverWolf
      @WiseSilverWolf 3 года назад

      @@AtomicBleach Good advice, do they have a Japanese eBay site though or do you use the American eBay and shop from international sellers?

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach 3 года назад

      @@WiseSilverWolf just the American ebay. most of the sellers are shipping directly from Japan. I don't use a filter or anything of that sort.

  • @Foxholeatheist
    @Foxholeatheist 3 года назад +2

    You have two different models of BigBoy there. The normal BigBoy has a straight blade. The BigBoy 2000 is the one with the curved blade model. The curved blades tend to be more aggressive as the blade pulls itself into the wood a bit more. They also sell curved blade Gomboys and PorcketBoys. They also sell a fine-tooth version of the F180 with a yellow handle... so not sure how much your color-coding theory holds up. If you want to spend a little more money, you can opt for the "Super Accel" over the Gomboy. It's got an aluminum chassis, so it's lighter than the Gomboy.

  • @williamgran-sarensen3948
    @williamgran-sarensen3948 4 года назад +4

    The Hole in the saw is there to help you open it

  • @LordThree
    @LordThree 3 года назад

    Love Silky 😍

  • @robertcampbell3828
    @robertcampbell3828 4 года назад

    I use to have a colman back in the day with a slight curve in the blade love that saw but I lost it riding. Now I have a silky to me curve blades are the way to go.

  • @anstef1485
    @anstef1485 Год назад +2

    These saws literally eat wood! The second locking position is very useful when cutting near the ground so you can still use full pulls to cut. Cutting on the pull stroke also reduces the chance of squeezing and bending the blade.

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 Год назад +2

    I have a Silky F-180 and a Gomboy Outback and Bigboy Outback Saws, in addition to a Gransfors Bruks Mini Hatchet, a Wildlife Hatchet and a Small Forest Axe.
    I'll take the saw/hatchet/axe combination that best suits my needs.
    A Cold Steel Special Forces Shovel and a Mora Companion Heavy Duty knife complete the set.
    With these four tools almost anything may be achieved outdoors.

    • @higherlifts420
      @higherlifts420 Год назад

      Do you like the F180 or Gomboy outback more?

  • @jbutzi
    @jbutzi 2 года назад

    Good review. I am in the market for a new saw and am considering the new big boy expedition series. Is this with the large teeth better than the medium teeth big boy for firewood in the real world? The Silky website recommends medium and small teeth for dry wood. I think of firewood as dry wood. It is confusing that they would give this advice yet make their new saw will large teeth.

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  2 года назад

      If you’re cutting pine and fir or other coniferous woods for firewood, or softwoods I’d use the large teeth. If you’re planning to cut hardwoods like oak I’d get the medium teeth.

    • @jbutzi
      @jbutzi 2 года назад

      @@ReviewOutdoorGear Thanks!

  • @bent7406
    @bent7406 4 года назад +2

    Great review! Have you used any of the Sven saws? If so how would they compare?

  • @schedvi
    @schedvi 4 года назад

    Silky Ultra Accel Professional 240mm curved blade is my go to saw...

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  4 года назад

      Curved cuts faster through soft to medium wood. It’s more aggressive.

    • @emmarowley1096
      @emmarowley1096 4 года назад

      ReviewOutdoorGear , not quite, the curved blade is for pruning usually fruit trees etc either above or below you IE tricky positions being in older fruit trees and such like stretching over on a ladder and the bigger teeth are for wet green wood. A medium teeth is better for drier / harder wood but larger teeth for green fresh branches that need pruning back. Thats why an arborist will have a selection of silkys, Horses for courses and all that 😊. Take care kind regards.

    • @schedvi
      @schedvi 4 года назад +1

      Wow, quite the bunch of saw PHD’s in this lively discussion! Bottom line, do your research and know what you’ll be cutting (as best you can) before leaving home. I used my Silky F180 last weekend to fell a 8’ tall Fraser Fir Christmas tree. Like a hot knife through butter.....😁

    • @emmarowley1096
      @emmarowley1096 4 года назад

      @French Frys thank you 😊

    • @emmarowley1096
      @emmarowley1096 4 года назад

      @@schedvi absolutely right about that, you have to do your research and then utilise your knowledge and experience to get the job done and use the best tool at your disposal. The f180 is a cracking saw for the price and easy to obtain new blades , unfortunately I had to buy another one because I stupidly lent my first f180 to a friend who never returned it back but you live and learn and thankfully they're not that expensive but I will never lend it out again!!! Seasons greetings From England.

  • @bradsheap6474
    @bradsheap6474 4 года назад +7

    Great video I’ve got my silky on the way. This definitely made me feel more comfortable with my purchase. But that death stare into the camera bout made me shit at the beginning lol 😂

    • @lindanwfirefighter4973
      @lindanwfirefighter4973 3 года назад

      Which one did you order and how has it worked out for you over the year?

    • @bradsheap6474
      @bradsheap6474 3 года назад +1

      @@lindanwfirefighter4973 I’ve got either the 210 or 240. Not for sure. But it’s been great for a backpacking/ bug out bag saw. Takes up no room being in its case wrapped up inside my wool blanket.
      Definitely worth the money if you don’t have a folding saw. Or if you want a good one

    • @lindanwfirefighter4973
      @lindanwfirefighter4973 3 года назад

      @@bradsheap6474 Thanks so much!

  • @Speedy41
    @Speedy41 3 года назад +3

    Do You think that good idea is to to buy 240mm or 210mm saw instead of buying small one and big one? I think my proposition will help You save some money.

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  3 года назад +2

      Buy 240 mm.

    • @Speedy41
      @Speedy41 3 года назад +1

      @@ReviewOutdoorGear Thank You :)

    • @Speedy41
      @Speedy41 3 года назад +1

      After several camps with 240mm saw I can say, that it is worth buying. It is enough to prepare fire wood, or prepare small camp :)

  • @jeanw.leblanc8447
    @jeanw.leblanc8447 Год назад

    what is the all-round , if you had to pick , ????

  • @maverickttv6058
    @maverickttv6058 4 года назад

    Do you think the big one could cut treated pilings underwater?

  • @isaacjfolsom
    @isaacjfolsom 4 года назад +1

    What boots are you wearing in this video please.

  • @malthus101
    @malthus101 4 года назад

    hey dude - can you tell me about your gloves? I'm looking for some plain leather gloves like yours, don't want gauntlets or horrible modern plasticy things! Thanks.

  • @refaiabdeen5943
    @refaiabdeen5943 4 года назад +1

    Cheers Mate!

  • @farhad_tulip
    @farhad_tulip 2 года назад

    Please check the Buck Saw 0755 BKM-B with saw folding silky f118. Thank you very much.

  • @dunno6442
    @dunno6442 5 месяцев назад +1

    My mates told me silky’s are garbage.. “blades are weak and snap”.. They got quiet watching mine cut our firewood the whole trip 😂. Silky’s have hard blades that aren’t supposed to be re sharpened, if you treat them right they’ll treat you right, and replacement blades are only like $30.

  • @tomstrongbeardtv1098
    @tomstrongbeardtv1098 3 года назад +1

    They locked like that so you can go underneath logs when you cut them.

  • @brianbelchuk9612
    @brianbelchuk9612 Год назад

    Can you buy in Canada

  • @abcxyz9643
    @abcxyz9643 4 года назад +2

    Not a fan of curved blades. They cut okay until you want to make a straight stop cut or something.

  • @capnb15
    @capnb15 3 года назад

    The hole looks like just a little grip point for pulling out the blade with your fingers

  • @cbf63
    @cbf63 Год назад +1

    I love my Silky Saws but being they are sooo sharp they can be very dangerous! I accidentally bumped my arm on the blade and instantly was cut...had to let it bleed out before treating the small wound.
    Just saying, I'm a little nervous using these saw especially if you were by yourself in the woods and God forbid you accidentally cut a main vain.
    Other than that they are the best saws made....just be aware of how quickly it could go tragic.

  • @robertbarnes2598
    @robertbarnes2598 3 года назад

    broke the tip of my gromboy on day 1. still live it though

  • @BadHorsie1
    @BadHorsie1 Год назад

    Yes but any decently large log is better cut with a cross cut saw

  • @rajuricha4058
    @rajuricha4058 Год назад

    Order option

  • @okiefreemen
    @okiefreemen 4 года назад +4

    make sure the dam nut at the top is kept tight, i almost completely lost my middle finger because of that.. Switching to fixed blade only so it never happens again

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 4 года назад

      ouch? forreal from a small silky you nearly cut finger off?

    • @okiefreemen
      @okiefreemen 4 года назад

      @@ChurchInAshes it was one the the medium long ones, the nut came off and then as a cut through a branch it slammed shut, sending the teeth into the bone on my finger. A lil more precaution would have prevented this or wearing a leather gloves, but just keep in mind there is no finger protection.

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 4 года назад

      @@okiefreemen was that when you first received it or after a long period of time? Do you think some loc-tight would keep the nut tight? They should have went with a more solid locking type thing like the lap lander

    • @okiefreemen
      @okiefreemen 4 года назад +2

      @@ChurchInAshes I used it for several hours, and I got to working to fast honestly but yes.. loctite would be a big help!

    • @X0X0LFertilizer
      @X0X0LFertilizer 3 года назад +1

      Thanks man I just ordered one the big boi

  • @jonc1901
    @jonc1901 4 года назад

    Neat accent! New Brunswick?

  • @duaneburd9350
    @duaneburd9350 2 года назад +1

    Yes harder than a file and a tanks armor, infact silky is now building tanks out of saw blades that u can hang off your fingers

  • @johncramer9564
    @johncramer9564 2 года назад

    You don't need a sheath for a folding saw, lolz. The sheath is the handle. Just put it in your pocket or backpack without sheath. Sheaths are for straight knives.

  • @Thee-_-Outlier
    @Thee-_-Outlier 2 года назад

    Every man knows there is a discrete and perfect tool for every job, however imho the silky that is the most useful is the gomboy 210 large tooth curved blade. The bigboy is too useless for most jobs as it requires two hands really. The gomboy curved 210 can do almost anything the big boy can. If you learn technique and to "snap pull" the blade for smaller twigs it can do twigs to 5+" trunks. Ig at some point the bigboy does become needed, say over 6" but man you are in chainsaw territory by then.

  • @halizaanasyafiashaabdullas1378
    @halizaanasyafiashaabdullas1378 4 года назад +2

    First comment

  • @JohnC-kc5uh
    @JohnC-kc5uh 4 года назад +1

    Diamond card

  • @okiefreemen
    @okiefreemen 4 года назад

    the teeth are hardened but they will break off, and in the longer saws you will eventually snap the blade in half. The medium teeth are better than large, more versatile

    • @malthus101
      @malthus101 4 года назад

      medium teeth are better?

    • @dirtysouthbushcraftandmma9784
      @dirtysouthbushcraftandmma9784 4 года назад

      @@malthus101 Not better, more versatile. As in you can use them for more delicate tasks. Large are certainly more efficient and time saving for bucking up firewood, ect.

  • @CameronLestagez
    @CameronLestagez Год назад

    in an emergency, how thick of a tree do you think a gomboy can cut

  • @lynnbell6374
    @lynnbell6374 2 года назад

    You always look so surprised lol

  • @mkzn317
    @mkzn317 3 года назад

    00:01 😳

  • @AnimusZen
    @AnimusZen 3 года назад

    Didn't do a full comparison.

  • @АндрейЖорник-б6и
    @АндрейЖорник-б6и 4 года назад +1

    Класс!

  • @Based_Dept.
    @Based_Dept. 10 месяцев назад

    Nice psycho eyes

  • @juswiffin8380
    @juswiffin8380 4 месяца назад

    Every now and then you get to spend your money on something that's worth it in a world full of knockoffs and bare minimal quality items.

  • @justjones5430
    @justjones5430 3 года назад +1

    The only way to break a 'Pull Saw' is by aggressively 'Pushing' on it.
    C'mon guys the clue is in the name ffs! 🤣

  • @1480-b5g
    @1480-b5g 3 года назад

    is it just me or does anyone else get freaked out at people with dead eyes or people with a soulless stare?

  • @cristiandemirel1918
    @cristiandemirel1918 4 года назад

    wild animals have a saying: a man with an axe is dangerous. a man with a saw is dinner.

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  4 года назад +1

      What do they say about a man that has both? 😂

    • @zachofall
      @zachofall 3 года назад +1

      @@ReviewOutdoorGear then you have a good time outdoors

  • @vitocarbonara7770
    @vitocarbonara7770 10 месяцев назад

    Commercial...

    • @ReviewOutdoorGear
      @ReviewOutdoorGear  10 месяцев назад

      How so? We bought every single one of these and these are truly the best saws we’ve ever used.

  • @ElisaStewart-pv3ds
    @ElisaStewart-pv3ds 4 месяца назад

    These are very poor quality saws.I owned three of them ,they wont cut anything I sold them on Craigslist for half price.I dont believe you have really used these saws!

    • @EZ_Case
      @EZ_Case Месяц назад

      I’ve used a silky bigboy, gomboy, and F180 for 9 years now and have never had a problem. I think you might be doing it wrong. 🤷‍♂️

    • @somnia3423
      @somnia3423 Месяц назад

      Never had a problem with them

  • @beyoguz
    @beyoguz 4 года назад

    Maan so you killed half a dozen tree for building this camp? hmmmmm