Joel Schumacher interview on "Batman Forever" (1995)
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- Director Joel Schumacher shares behind-the-scenes stories about the making of "Batman Forever."
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Rest in Peace Joel, you will be missed!
Glad he’s dead! Justice for Corey Haim!
@@fineartist7456 he's not to blame for the films. It's Warner Bros. Joel wanted to make the films darker but the studio turned him down because of parents complaining
@@fineartist7456 What you mean?
@@fineartist7456 he was just doing the studio told him to do, parents were complaining about Batman Returns that it was too dark for a younger audience so the studio wanted to make a movie that was a lighter and brighter tone
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Batman Forever is just a fun badass movie. Thats how it should be remembered.
I know he gets a lot of flack but he seems like a really nice guy and has directed plenty of great films.
Edit : Just heard he passed away, RIP to Joel. One of the men that helped me get into Batman.
8MM, Phone Booth, the list goes on
Stallonefan03 Don't forget "Falling Down" which I believe is his best film
He had a big resume and body of work. I mean he has achieved more then anybody ever could had!
Love The Lost Boys. His friend Tim Burton will miss him. Jim Carrey tweeted a sweat message.
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This man just passed away, my condolences to all his dear ones
Despite all his faults, we have to acknowledge that in his own special ways, he was a good director who gave us plenty of entertainment and an even better human being. You will be extremely missed Mr. Schumacher, Rest In Peace.
I loved the film when I was a kid, especially it's Climax, when Batman has to choose between saving his girlfriend and his sidekick, but instead, he makes his own Riddle and destroys The Riddler's machine. Rest in Peace.
The music when Batman is falling to save them both......the best
The ending is awesome too, when Batman and Robin are running towards the screen with the bat symbol shining in the background and the epic music playing, definitely one of the best endings ever!
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
I just love how articulate Joel is at describing the film, his career, and handling hate from critics. You can tell he is an intelligent person with a lot of experience. Answering questions upon questions in a calm and smooth way. RIP.
Schumacher was a Virgo, we're very intelligent people. ♍
Joel was such a great, versatile director. Horror, comedy, sci fi, drama, etc the man literally did it all. Really enjoyed so many of his films. Rest in peace Mr. Schumacher and thank you for all the years of entertainment.
0:07 Sometimes I forget that 141 million dollars was a milestone 25 years ago
It is still a milestone
It made around $350M through its entire run.
This is actually a good interview
I could listen to him talk for hours, so witty and wise. His Batman films made my childhood so much brighter and funnier. Shame he got lambasted by fanboys and critics.
You now batman and robin is trash
@HopesUp if you look at it, we should be glad that those films were made because we got Nolan
16:32 i totally agree with Schumacher, he's not trying to make the next Casablanca, just an entertaining batman movie.
Your icon is clever. I kept trying to brush a stray hair off my screen lol.
16:53 this is the best argument in defense of the film. You may dislike it, but there's so much great and creative work in terms of design, costumes, set decorations, music, etc. that blowing the whole film off is simply not appreciating good work.
Yes, it's colorful and childish, but it's fun and the story makes sense even if it's simple.
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
Joe Schumacher kicks ass?! until this day, he's still my filmmaking hero...thank you Joel
Except for Batman and Robin
He also humped a lot of ass...
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
Great interview, for all his miss fires, I still have respect for this man and the several films he made which were really solid. Also love hearing his thoughts on the critics vs audiences.
SB0780 dear I think you are familiar with the show pls can you name me the host who is anchoring the show
@@mohammedidris2932 charlie rose
Thanks i got the reply after 3 years
Personally, I loved both "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin". They were campy but they were pretty funny tributes to the original series. They may not have been the same as the first two Batman movies but still, I think they're great.
His philosophies, ethics, and talent are probably a really rare thing in Hollywood. We need more people like this on our planet. Wherever you are Joel you’ve inspired and left a legacy. ✌️
It’s 2022 and his philosophy is exactly what people are looking for right now - help people forget about their own lives for two hours with something that is just interested in telling you a story and entertaining you
"sometimes a big mac is just wonderful"
Man, this is such a relevant and important interview. Gems dropped everywhere.
Miss the 90's
me too
Me 3 @@jswatch9270
Why?
RIP Joel.. great interviewee as well as filmmaker
Such a dear man. I will miss him.
RIP Joel Schumacher. Made alot great films: Batman Forever, Phone Booth, A Time To Kill, Trespass, Falling Down and The Client.
Lost Boys
HopesUp Batman Forever is great as are the other ones mentioned.
Um," Trespass " was just dreadful. I hope you were joking on that " one " ,but the rest you mentioned "kicked ass".
@@terrycraig6386 OK, Trespass wasn't a great movie but it was ok C movie cos it had Nicolas Cage and Nicole Kidman in it.
He looks like a cool guy
Other than Batman & Robin this guy’s filmography is iconic as fuck. Falling Down is in my opinion on of the top 20 best films of the 90s.
I didn't realize he had passed last year :( rest in peace Joel.
He got way too much hate for his Batman movies. Forever is underrated & whole B&R was... Something it was the studio's fault.
RIP to a legend.
RIP Joel Schumacher I find it so crazy that I watched the lost boys for the first time just a few months before he passed away absolutely one of his best movies and he's such a great filmmaker he will be missed
RIP Joel Schumacher.
He was so prissy, so elegant as an openly gay director. It hurts that he had to pass during pride month. #RIPJoelSchumacher
Patrick Lawson
He was also openly a rapist. But no one did anything about it.
@@fineartist7456 proof?
Great interview. Joel Schumacher made some incredible movies in his time. The Lost Boys, Falling Down, The Client, A Time to Kill, Tigerland, Phone Booth, The Phantom of the Opera…I even enjoy Batman Forever. Rest In Peace, Joel!
The Number 23
He was so under-appreciated, his Batman films just came out in the wrong era unfortunately
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
RIP Joel Schumacher
One of my all-time favorites Is Flatliners,perfectly directed.So sad we Lost him....
Rest In Peace Joel
Never had an issue with Joel Schumacher and his Batman Films , he made a living comic book for 2 films... He was a Great Director... And to be honest people may disagree his Batman Films being great the MCU is closer to what Schumacher Did than Burton....
RIP, Joel.
r.i.p joel you'll be missed
damn, george clooney did such a good impresson of him on the graham norton show
Rip joel schamuer you are missed
i fully agree with what he says. personally as a kid i loved this film more than the first two i watch teh first two now and see they are masterpieces but as a kid you have to go more the bright lights and simple villiains. RIP JOEL
RIP Joel
Seemed like a genuine guy
Fun fact: The interviewer was featured in "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice" in the compilation of scenes showing the media and news talking about the controversey on Superman's prescence in the world
RIP JOEL 🙏
Rest In Peace. Batman forever was my childhood
L M
Glad he is dead! Justice for Corey Haim!
A Addis wha ?
@Brandon Brooks
Schumacher was subhuman. Corey Haim deserved justice
@@fineartist7456 shut it
What a fucking legend. RIP
I’ve always respected Joel Schumacher as a director, and I do appreciate how he grew up a Batman fan and a comic reader. I believe Schumacher could have made one of the best Batman films if WB gave him more creative freedom, rather than want to make toys. I think Joel tried not to diss on Warner when the movies were coming out, cause after he wasn’t afraid to share how WB really treated his vision
Very interesting and insightful interview on the current state of Hollywood, Critics and Blockbusters at the time.
Love his sass!!
great director
Joel's amazing..period!
3 hour batman forever cut please wb
rest in peace joel schumacher
It takes a big man to admit hes wrong and he admits that about Batman and Robin got to give him that RIP Joel.
R.i.P
I like how at the end it got more and more aggressive xD I agree with both of their opinions, can't say if any of them is wrong.
That was great, I really enjoyed that
Many think Batman Forever is cheesy, but I like its visual, soundtrack and funny lines, film really looks like a comics set in motion :-) And it also has its dark moments.
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
The Lost Boys and The Client are great films
Alan Lloyd
Glad he is dead! Justice for Corey Haim!
God bless Joel Schumacher.
Rip 😥
He might have been the best director for the movie but you know what he's a cool guy... Rip Joel you're alright.
Cool thanks Joel Schumacher forever thanks for the 25-30 years of storytelling from the legendary late legacy of Bob Kane whoever passed on at 83,1998 rip buddy now your characters are better than ever thanks buddy peace and blessings to you thanks.
Glad he is dead! Justice for Corey Haim!
Forever in hell🔥
Joel Schumacher was a real life villain that got away with his crimes. It’s too bad there wasn’t a real life hero to save his victims. But the greatest friend of truth is time and in time all will be revealed and justice will be served.
He's a funny guy, I have to say lol
You will be missed
Was 10 in 1995... What a fun time lol
I always liked Joel ever since I saw him in interviews around this era and later in his commentaries for his films. He had such a warm friendly quality with hardly any arrogance. It saddens me how he was treated after Batman & Robin and yet he still made some extraordinary films. He merely just wanted to entertain an audience and I always enjoyed his projects. He is so complimentary and was quite a positive person to his fellow cast and crew in his work. He will always be one of my favourite directors of all time.
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
He’s very arrogant! He replaced Billy Dee Williams, had no concept of continuity, destroyed the amazing set designs of the previous films, overused CGI, turned it into a comedy with no depth … watch forever after watching returns. His work is awful
@@onyourjackjones Returns isn't a great movie either it's good but nothing on the first movie. As for arrogant I don't see how that is he was hired and asked by the studio to make a lighter family-friendly Batman movie he did what he was paid for and even spoke to Burton about doing the project beforehand who said he didn't care and just to do your own thing with it. Billy Dee would not have done any better in the role of Two-Face in Forever than Jones it would have been the exact same thing he was replaced because he was no longer that famous by the time the third movie came along. There is nothing wrong with making a more family-friendly more light-hearted Batman movie Batman has existed in many different forms for decades even Burton himself liked the Adam West show and never cared about the comics. You can see many tributes to the Adam West show in the Burton movies except Burton added a darker tone to the films so it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't matter if you want to make a light-hearted family-friendly Batman or a darker more serious one what matters is the execution you may not personally like a more light-hearted Batman but that doesn't make a more light-hearted version bad by that effect.
Listening to Joel talk about critics during this time makes me realize nothing has changed. Maybe people want to go to a movie to be entertained. Not everything had to be a deep compelling story. And I’m glad Joel said “Batman is a comic book character.” This unfortunately isn’t how modern audiences view Batman anymore. Batman has to be gritty, grounded, and realistic and it’s losing sight of what the character is. This is why I didn’t like The Batman. It takes itself way too seriously to the point where it’s ridiculous in a bad way. Batman forever is ridiculous in a good way because it knows what it is.
he was absolutely funny during the making that 2 movies i´ve heard ... George Clooney said some funny stories ....
as a kid never understood why they had a close up of the Batass or the Batnips, then i found out that the director Schumacher was a flamer
But he did the same thing with Batgirl, showing her ass and tits in the outfit and look how HOT he shot Poison Ivy. He was equal opportunity
Especially in Batman and Robin. Why all these close ups of Batman, Robin and Batgirls arse
When I'd gone to see the Schumacher Batman films in theaters as a kid, the entire audience erupted in laughter at those scenes. It was so bizarre; I think a lot of people were just baffled by it (including me).
Glad he is dead! Justice for Corey Haim!
@@fineartist7456 What the hell are you talking about Cory Haim liked Joel they were friends he had nothing to do with Cory Haim being abused. Unless you are saying because Joel is gay he must have abused a child just because he's gay if that's the case you are a moron.
Love the way Rose says 'Batman MOVIEEEE' at 0:36 secs.
R.I.P
A Time to Kill is his undisputed masterpiece. I hope he knows wherever his is that yes, he was a talented director who answered the right call. Even if he did direct Batman & Robin. :)
Nostalgia Critic is right. he was a nice guy.
I can imagine if he manage to do a 1999 Batman with Robin and Batgirl
And with Scarecrow with the main antagonist or maybe Clayface or Killer Croc
And yeah I know about the Batman Began Scarecrow
I just like to see this director's version of Scarecrow
Goggle Batman Unchained...would have been great had it been made
@@craignelson9045
Alright cool
And lately I've been imagining if this director did other obscure villains such as
*Mad Hatter*
*Firefly*
*Man-Bat*
*Killer Moth*
*Black Mask*
*The Ventriloquist and Scarface*
*Professor Milo*
*Maxie Zeus*
*Ratcatcher*
@@craignelson9045
Wow
I mean I normally hate the negative sides of film business but wow
@Brandon Brooks
Interesting
It's just with the way this guy made that side of the batman franchise espeacily for the 90's i just would love to see how he would do it if he ever done certain Batman Villains when it came to their themes and go to's
I mean imagine not just *Scarecrow* and *Harley Quinn*
But
*Killer Croc*
*Clayface*
*Mad Hatter*
*Man-Bat*
*Firefly*
*Black Mask*
*Ventriloquist*
*Hush*
*Killer Moth*
*Maxie Zeus*
*Ratcatcher*
*Cavalier*
*Flamingo*
*Orca*
I would love to see how he would invent the scenery on them
Fucking legend
Love Joel
#releasetheschumachercut of Batman forever on home media
I don’t know like the Batman forever and Batman and Robin movies weren’t that bad
Jim Carrey is still channeling the Riddler in Sonic (2020) as Robotnik
If you have a rule of NOT making sequels
Stick to that rule
Hated his movies but love him as a person
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
When I was a kid I remember eating up these Schumacher Batman films (I loved them!) even though now I realize how awfully campy they were and I don't want anymore productions like these, I can't help feel like in a way, those 2 Schumacher Batman films with all their camp might have been kind of a necessary part of the process to go from Tim Burton's Batman to the more polished and mature interpretations we have today from Nolan and Reeves (and Snyder).
Like now that we've done that sort of camp and tried that, and also got these 3 newer iterations we know what works and what doesn't, in the future we can revisit and build on some of the visual aesthetics Schumacher developed (which he expanded on from Burton- and elements which have since found there way into the comics), we can also feel confident in using some of those high concept Bat-vehicles paired with the more cohesive scripts we've come to appreciate too.
JS's films are now my less favourite Batman films but I still LOVE a lot of the style he brought to the franchise story, the Gotham he painted was (more than anyone else's) batshit crazy in the best way- Dark and Gothic but also vibrant, modern, gaudy, and lived-in, sprawling, and gaudy and busy- it remains very interesting to me
I think Robin being used to bring jack Nicholson as joker he didn't want to fall for it again.
RIP
16:51 He´s such an icon for this lmao
27:00 Joel just knew what would happen to the next Batman movie
I'm glad Keaton didn't continue on as Batman. Joel's take was stylistically different and in tone different than Burton's, and so it would seem odd to have the same actor playing Batman. Keaton was best left to Batman and Batman returns. Kilmer was a good choice, but to be honest, out of those four Batman movies, I only like the first one, Batman.
Kilmer was definitely a good choice. Clooney, not so much.
First and second movies are great
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
Rip
Although I hated his Batmans, he directed some great films. Falling Down, The Lost Boys, The Client and Tigerland are fantastic.
Can someone name me who is the host of the show what is his name
Charlie rose
27:10 This line seems pretty foreshadowing for things to come, While I don't blame him for the failure of Batman and Robin The Damage was already done unfortunately.
I'm sure when people went to see batman Forever in 1995 they loved it because they grew up with the 60s show, they watch it 10 or 15 years later and they realized "wow that an extended episode of SNL and that's not a good thing"
Batman Forever is harmless fun but lacks deeper depth because of the removed Batman subplot scenes about him losing his memory and finding he needs Batman again. Jim Carry is funny from start to finish in Batman Forever and Val Kilmer is fine. Batman and Robin though suffer from the problem sequels get called excess they take everything that was fun and entertaining from Forever that worked in Forever and overdoes it in B And R. Batman and Robin was trying to capture the spirit of the 6os show but also trying to go even bigger with what worked in Forever. What you end up with is pretty much a movie for dumb children. Batman 1989 and Returns are Burton doing his take a Dark slightly crazy loner Batman that is only slightly less crazy than the villains he chases. Then we got Nolan's Dark realistic take and Snyders more comic book extreme dark take. Now we have Matt Reeves's upcoming Detective thriller noir type, Batman.
@@boomstickcritique902 everyone in the movie is a great actor but they're all in this directors movie
@@boomstickcritique902 when I found out Matt Reeves Batman movie was detective based, I banged my hands together because the detective side is something that has been kind of absent from the movies
@@opinionsnotfacts Rather you like or hate Batman and Robin the director gave the studio what they wanted to be fair and what they requested.
27:12: Ouch, that's some real irony.
He proved his point right.
Wow. Is it me that he almost look
like Al pacino actor
The Iceage
rip king. if he DID end up buying time warner with his batman money, coulda solved ALOT of bs down the line.
If he's the master caster, they why George Clooney and Arnie
Warren G
Glad he is dead! Justice for Corey Haim!
@@fineartist7456 shut it
Are his movies connected to the burton films?
I believe so.
No they are not
@@jessicaronson6880 they are not connected burton's version is it's own thing, it's genius
@@jessicaronson6880 he wanted to be alfred again that's it, same for the Gordon Tim burton's gothic film isn't there anymore
Yes Batman Forever and Batman and Robin are the third and fourth film in the series