You gotta remember the way AFO gets people is that he makes them think that he’s their friend and on their side. Then as soon as he has them it’s hey I need you to return the favour or die
I think alot of people misunderstood yuga parents. The thing with afo is that most ppl who deal with him don't know he's AFO they just think he's a generous guy with the power to give quirks.
I've always preferred the full quote: "The road to Hell is ordered by the righteous, planned by the well-meaning, and paved with good intentions." It gives more nuance; most of the time, it's lots of little things adding up to something terrible. And also most of the time, none of the people involved meant for it to end terribly. And yet...
I'm so glad you guys give credit to this show. At some point, the anime community decided that this show deserved all the hate for some reason, and it's never been fair or true. It's a wonderful show, and I'm happy to have people like you around that aren't afraid to say so.
What I've found incredibly weird in some media like Anime is that the show is criticized for outside areas that have nothing to do with the quality of the show itself like Fanbases or external commentary which weirds people out. I agree the over-hate on the show itself is pretty unwarranted.
My only problem was, and not that I want this to happen, but no one ever dies (our squad) like i get it, but it feels like there's no actual risk knowing they're all gonna come out ok 😅 I still watch tho.
It’s because the popular stuff *always* get more hate than they deserve. It’s not exclusive to this show. It happened with Dragon Ball, Naruto, Fairy Tail, and so many others. Basically, if something is popular, expect there to be an undeserving level of hate. It’s like a universal rule, with very rare exceptions. It’s how trolling works.
@@cjjackson2423 That was a mistake on the authors part. There were moments characters should have died and the Mangaka just didn't. I think they like the characters too much. By this point we needed to have seen a dozen more deaths of hero's and some civilians. Who it is doesn't matter, just that someone dies. All Might on the scene was the one time no one should die. He should have been able to save everyone while he had his powers. However the rest of the time people should die.
we not going to talk about AFO absolutely roasting Dabi? 'because unlike you toya, I have many friends'. He didn't need to murder the guy but he did and it was amazing
Knowing Aoyama was quirkless, paints all his showboating, throughout the series, in more tragic light. He's basically somebody that was born with a disability, that got corrective surgery later on. He shows off because he couldn't before, like a lame person, running and leaping all over the place, when they finally gain the ability to walk. He also felt like a social outcast, so when he showed off it was like he was shouting "Look at me, everyone! I'm the same as you!". Aoyama was forced into a position, no kid should ever be in; all because his parents wanted him to feel like a normal person. And you could clearly see how much anguish he was feeling, over the actions he was forced to take. He's clearly sorry, and now has the chance to do the right thing. So yes, I forgive Aoyama.
As soon as Aoyama's parents talked to All for One and got him a quirk, they were screwed! I feel so bad for Aoyama 😢. Joel McDonald did a beautiful job. Its been a while since ive heard him get that emotional 😭❤️
Unless it’s slow paced few fights shonen gets labeled bad writing by haters. The pace is faster so things can’t breathe but if they slow down their axed or called mid. So I give em a pass. Frieren is shonen and people call it better than all shonen. People just hate on most shonen besides one piece. Not sure where they go to read good action series if all shonen that’s mainstream to them is trash and mid aka chainsawman, bleach, jjk, hxh, so on
People complain about the right things. Of course there's people who will overhate, but is a fact that a lot of things in the manga could be more fleshed out, actually SHOULD be more fleshed out. Characters like Bakugo, Uraraka, Toga and even Shigaraki would not be as divisive if Hori was a more competent writer, he failed to get his point across and that's why people see Baguko as someone who doesn't deserve his redemption, Uraraka as a boring character who doesn't deserve all the spotlight she gets, and Shigaraki and Toga as two cry babies and hipocrites. And is actually funny because Endeavor has one complex story arc that could go wrong very easily, but with him Hiro never missed, and that's why he is not divisive. And that's only one of the problems the story has.
the part where he said making mistakes or committing a crime, knowing deep down that you didn’t mean to doesn’t mean you have to be a villain forever and to me now that was a moment that takes me back to my hero academia season episode 22 because now those were the right words to say for two characters we know from there.
They haven't said when All For One got the explosion quirk that he blew Lady Nagant up with. He could have had it 10 years ago and even if he didn't he could have multiple quirks to deal with traitors. All For One has been around for over 100 years there's no telling what kind of quirks he has.
In Aoyama’s parents’ defense, they didn’t know All for One was evil. He wasn’t a publicly known villain until his fight with All Might in season 3, so they thought he was just some guy who could give quirks to people
Exactly. They made ONE bad decision out of love for their child, resulting in their entire family being under the thumb of a madman. Another thing to note is that the SECOND the jig was up, they made it crystal clear that their son was NOT to blame for their actions. I'm certain Aoyama's parents already have their share of haters, but in actuality, they're not bad people.
Tons of people forget, the doctor who told Midoriya he was quirkless is the same doctor who was helping All for One. Aoyama also went to that same doctor but his family was introduced to All for One. Aoyama and Midoriya could have been in the exact opposite situation.
I don’t think Deku could have been in the situation. I’m sure Aoyama’s parents being rich & having those types of connections that rich people have, they were probably much more useful at getting information
I’m just gonna say it, Aoyama doesn’t deserve to be blamed or imprisoned for this. He’s a kid who was forced into a situation where he had the choice of doing what he was told or dying with his parents. I know there’s consequences and stuff, but like, I’m with Midoriya here.
If anything it's his parents who should be held accountable. They despaired over their child being different and they were so desperate for him to be like everyone else that they basically made a deal with the devil so their son could fit in.
well obviously the only person in this show I've ever seen you believe should face consequences for their actions is Endeavor everyone else gets the pass
@@foxtrot-gamesandwit4475 No? I think the consequences should be faced for people who went out of their way to be horrible. Endeavor, the villains (even though I feel differently they should still be held accountable), but Aoyama's a super different case.
13:1113:12 Oh my god no matter how I see this, this never gets old and I continue to love that scene so much. We surely all agree that this this was Toru Hagakure's breathtaking breakingthrough (like my word set 😉?) moment. A perfect time to reveal her face. She looks like a devastated fairy. Her mystical appearance and her severe rebuke combined with her teary-eyed broken heart makes it sufficient enough to be a unforgettable and audience-affecting. Aoyama's conscience and sense of self-worth must be going to hell so much right now. I'm sure he'll remember this as his greatest shame that's portrayed by Toru's anguished face and her armor-piercing question PS: Because I got busy with other stuff + plus reading the mangas I stopped watching watching your reactions since the end of season 4 but when I heard that Yuga aoyama's a traitor and that invisible girl's true face has been revealed my reaction enthusiasm got refired and you guys are my favorite reactors anyway. So I'll be sure to catch up as soon as it's possible.
One other thing about Aoyama’s parents. They both speak with a French accent so chances are they are both from France. They may not have known about the evils of All for One as that’s not part of their country. They just heard that someone in Japan can give quirks to those who are quirkless. Like a parent traveling the country for the chance of a life saving surgery, just to find out it was a scam. It’s sad really.
Are they really French? Then why do they have the name Aoyama? I'm guessing because they're rich, they both grew up in France or abroad both were born in Japan
@@itsh1231 there is also the possibility that they were part Japanese on his fathers side (Aoyama is his fathers name) but his mother is completely French. That would mean that Aoyama is a quarter Japanese. Even up to a half Japanese, we know that his childhood was in France.
I just imagine that All For One gave Aoyama the Naval Laser quirk because he got tired of shitting his pants after shooting a laser. What better way to get rid of that quirk. Plus he probably thought it would be funny if he gave that quirk to Aoyama.
As far as we know because of his quirk All for one basically suffers zero drawbacks from his quirks so it was him just not caring about some rando kid unlike with his broski.
I loved the discussion at the beginning with Suraj talking about how good MHA is. I recently rewatched the whole show, because of season 7 coming out and it reminded me how good it is and also how much I love it. MHA is definitely overhated and it was just nice to hear Suraj appreciating the show so much.
Same, had been rewatching the show together with a good reactor like Letts react is very nice. The opinion coming from the first time watcher give me a sense of relatability as mostly the opinion is similar with how i perceived the story from the first watching. It's also make me more appreciate and realize any point or details that i had miss when i watch it alone. It strengthen the position MHA/BNHA as my favorite anime in my heart
I think people are really underestimating the situation with Aoyama's family and All For One. He has proven to do WHATEVER he needs to in order for his plans to succeed. I won't say anything about why they couldn't have been double agents for UA because that will be explained, but what makes anyone think that he would stop at killing Aoyama's parents? What makes anyone think that Aoyama himself hasn't heard threats from AFO's own mouth? They were ALL in danger. Does it suck that his parents have to use him to keep them all safe? Yes, and they recognize that and even put the blame on themselves, but to say that are bad people or whatever is really minimizing the situation they were in. I always think about how easy it is to say you would do something different from an outside perspective, but from a realistic standpoint, that type of fear can really consume you to doing whatever AFO wants. And no hate to the reaction or anything, I always enjoy them (even with the misremembered things lol) but this is just a topic that I think people see as black or white when it is so, so very gray.
Rana has to be serious in this instance. If a major evil villain is threatening you and your family and shows people dying in front of you. You’re not going to easily turn against him. The parents are still wrong don’t get me wrong. But it’s just a messed up situation. Also it’s All For One (bad) One For All (Deku good)
The thing about Aoyama’s parents having him spy for All for One, is that it wasn’t just their lives at stake. It was *his* life too. If his parents died, All for One would kill the son too. So they had no choice but to do what All for One wanted or the whole family would be killed. So they _were_ taking responsibility. It’s not like they could’ve spied on UA themselves, after all.
THey are so quick to judge, as if they or other people who judge Aoyoma and his parents wouldnt have done the exact same thing. Its not to say they were right necessarily in their decision but be real that its not as if a lot of these people wouldnt have made the same decision in that position.
@@nukiesduke6868 it's not rare in a general sense, but that 20% is skewed to older generations since they become more rare each generation. For Deku's generation it's likely under 5%, and that's being generous.
We finally have our traitor reveal. Btw, the line, "I have friends to spare" with the closeup shot of Invisible Girl actually was the end of a chapter in the manga. Some people thought she was the traitor because of that. While other people thought she was actually looking at the traitor. I was in that second group. But boy was it a chaotic wait. I also love how Touya just does not care at all for AFO's rants or talking. It doesn't seem like anyone from the League likes him very much. Which makes sense. They all came together to work with Shigaraki. Not AFO. So he's basically a stranger to them that is now trying to hold the reins. An outsider, if you will.
@@samuelclayhills3298Nah, while you are right about Touya, the League Members did legitimately bond with Shigaraki, especially Spinner. They are basically only siding with AfO out of convenience rather than camaraderie, Shigaraki promised a chaotic world where the villains could run wild which is a lot more meaningful than AfO's selfish, adolescent Demon Lord wet dream
On an unrelated note, it is really cool to see how much stronger Mineta has gotten. He seems to have toughened up to where he no longer bleeds from overusing his quirk.
Unpopular Opinion: UA failed Mineta. He could be one of the most OP characters in the series but the staff seems to have ignored him. He should have been encouraged to work on his body so that by now he should be launching his balls like a MLB pitcher. With speed, power, and pinpoint accuracy. Also if you haven't noticed those balls are the some of the toughest things in world. So far nothing has been able to destroy them or separate from them once they're stuck. Even Giganto Machia. When they were stuck to his foot the only way he was able to get out was to rip the ground out below the balls. The balls stayed stuck to both his foot and to the ground underneath. If he was stuck to a stronger surface he wouldn't have been able to get out.
*I can’t be mad at Aoyama if I’m being honest. He didn’t want or choose for any of this to happen. If anything, he basically had a gun to his head the whole time. It may have been a bad thing to do, but he’s not a villain.*
They exist but not being so loud in internet 😂. Like it's seem so rare. Yeah major of fans didn't appreciate the plot the story give us ,they mostly only look forward on the fight and put aside the details. Well i do understand why bcuz season 1-2 is really give many memorable episode for the fight, and that's what most fans keep attached to the MHA
All the time since the first day of UA the League of Villains knew what the Heroes were doing before they did. The attack of the school, the incident at the training camp, the whole incident from last season etc. Can't believe they didn't see it coming!!
Chris buddy. Bakugou throws around explosions it ain't gotta be a trap to mess people up. But now unlike before when all his explosions were instant and one directional. Now he has essentially mines he can set off on remote. Doesn't matter if u seen it before or not it's gonna be tough paying attention to lil sweat droplets that suddenly explode all around u
The author did a great job with with hinting at the Aoyama twist from the beginning. He’s always been the mysterious oddball of the class and there are so many moments that make you wonder about him. That season 4 episode of him talking to Deku means so much more in hindsight.
Nagant is not new they literally say they have no idea if Ayoma has a detonation put in him like her. They also say how people just end up dead in general when they cross him. Do you think he wouldnt have killed Ayoma?
Since day one I've been a fan of my hero academia and I love every season of it. It's one of the best animes out but everyone hates it because it's popular
When Suraj was talking at the beginning about the parallels between the brothers and Shigaraki/Deku and the sharing of being quirk-less at first it made me think of that scene in Captain America the First avenger where Stanley Tucci's Erskine sits down with Chris Evans Steve Rogers and they have a heart to heart over the importance of being a good man and Steve asking why he was chosen, I imagine Deku felt the same with that great power Steve and Deku share a lot of similarities but mainly just the altruism of both being their strongest traits. (I know both obviously hero stories but that just resonated with me that scene specifically)
As a manga reader, I genuinely have no idea what spoiler Marketa is talking about in the opening. The only two real spoilers are Invisible Girl’s face and Aoyama in the chair, and both of those have already happened now.
So I responded to a comment on your reaction to episode 3x7 (currently the top comment on that video in case people need to fact check it) where I predicted this would happen and was very close with my prediction. A year later I was proved right in the manga and finally here we are 3 years later
Marketas logic of someone being bad for doing bad stuff while their entire family including themselvs is threathend with death is just dumb. By this logic you might as well includ Yuga.
I honestly don't see how anyone blames Yuga or his parents, yeah they could've just let their child be quirkless but that was just a really bad decision. They're not monsters. Their choices were literally life or death. 18:05 Also I assume that the whole family would die, not just the parents, that just makes sense to me.
What did Marketa see in the intro that she thinks is some big spoiler that they have to avoid now? 5:15 Seemed like she was noticing it during the sequence where Deku is running through the burning city, passing by all his classmates. Was she noticing the almost peaceful look on Bakugo's face before that sequence, along with what he's standing on, then noticing that Bakugo isn't there during Deku's run, and assuming it's foreshadowing a death, or something? Because He's there in that sequence, at the end after Ochaco. it's just very brief. I can see how someone could interpret that as death foreshadowing, but I don't think that's what it is at all. I think avoiding the intro is an overreaction.
i have not read the manga nor do i know if this is true . . . bakugo standing on hands and smiling in the next frame looks sus (you can also look when that comes on the screen and marketa's face after)
To clear it up a bit; he was born quirkless, and his parents, who love him very much, feared for him, feared that he would be treated like the outcast of the group, that he wouldnt be able to go forward and get to his dreams because he didnt have powers, so they went to the person who was capable of giving people quirks; AFO. What they did not realize at the time, however, is that when he did that, he told them that they owe him, and expected their cooperation any time he called them up. So of course, when it was time for him to take the exam to get into UA, AFO made sure to let him know, "Hey, you work for me, tell me whats going on at UA, or your parents are gonna pay for it." Yuga was in a no win situation from the jump, no matter how you slice it. Cant help but feel bad for this family.
All for One would have killed Aoyama too if the parents had done nothing. They were in a no-win solution as soon as the quirk was given. And the "we will die" is not just the parents, it's the entire family.
In my opinion, I don't think Aoyama's parents put him up to it. I don't think they forced him to do stuff for them now that they realized AFO was evil. AFO IS evil and probably asked to use their son as a resource. I don't think hee gave them a choice. All Might was going to be a teacher in UA and AFO needed someone to be in UA
"The trope of french being cowards - which is bullshit" Something I heard once years ago: If I make an 'and the French surrender' joke, everyone laughs, even though the French have not surrendered in every war they've been in. In fact, it was really just the one....but it was KIND of an important one so they have to own it.
Aoyama’s parents definitely screwed up. Pressuring their son is beyond screwed up. They deserve more blame than their son. At the same time the situation is more nuanced than the parents are just 100% bad people who are using their son. All for One kept a lot of his existence secret for most of his time in power. Remember back in season 2 Midioriya didn’t even know who All for One was, despite being a mega fan who knows everything about All Might until All Might told him who All for One is. All for One put effort into putting up a mask of being a benevolent being who helps people. That is how he always gets people. They see him as a benevolent person who wants to help them who will ask for a favor in return. Then later they found out the favor is working for him under threat of death for them and their loved ones. By then they are too scared to come forward. As far as they know AFO has killed everyone who has come forward. He specifically showed these people what would happen if they betrayed him. I don’t want to excuse everything the family did, but I also do think they did this for love of their son and that the threat was the whole family will be killed, not just the parents specifically. It makes no sense why AFO would leave Aoyama out of this and just kill the parents. Now the parents definitely emotionally manipulated him by saying Aoyama was their only hope to escape death, but I do very much believe AFO told them he would kill their entire family if they betrayed him. The parents owning up to everything when they were caught and taking the full blame while trying to minimize their son’s actions shows they do care and love for him. I don’t think it is fair to say they only cared for themselves. Again, not excusing it, but I don’t think we should downplay the fear factor either.
The reason "theanimemen" roast mha or in general mha getting lot of hate online is because if it's annoying fandom. Now I know every fandom has toxic fans and it's especially very common among anime ones ,but goddamn mha fandom is just on another level. So most people hate the fandom, they don't hate the show at all.
Blaming the parents is just naive and dumb, they only wanted what was best for their son and considering how deku was treated we all know it was horrible being quirkless. They didn't know who AFO was because literally no one did they just thought he was someone who could help their son and by the time they found out it was too late because betraying him would have ended with their whole family dying. Your bright idea was to just die and what leave him alone because that worked out well for shigaraki🤦🏾♂️just fuck him up mentally some more. Plus if you think he would have just stopped at them you insane he more then likely also threatened them with their sons death
Aoyama’s parents are snobs, and definitely manipulated him into following AFO instead of just talking with him or trying to help alleviate the burden by making his priorities about self preservation and/or being crafty and witty. But they also have the equivalent of a terrorist manipulating them. And they were used to the easy rich life. Money fixed shit, but for the first time ever it ruined everything. I agree that the real issue they are truly guilty of (bc let’s face it, AFO absolutely would’ve killed aoyama first and then his parents as punishment for daring to go against him) is using emotional manipulation tactics to put their son through hell to save their skins. It’s one of the few weapons the raised wealthy/spoiled have at their disposal. Horikoshi is a damn good writer
Yessssss give me all the My Hero sugar!!! This is a beautiful story full of rich and complex world and character building and it's one of the goats for a reason!!!!
Anyone got a clue what Marketa saw in the intro that upset her? As a manga reader i could be missing what she's interpreting as a spoiler. Only one I could think of was Hagakure but she said it wasn't that
I went back and watched the intro after watching this video, trying to pinpoint what part of the intro she was watching when she had that reaction. I wasn't concerned about spoilers because I'm a bit past this season in the manga. From what I can tell, the only thing that could have been a potential spoiler past when they commented about Bakugou's outfit was the overall background. Specifically, the state of the buildings and the streets when Deku is swinging through and tagging in his friends.
I’m interested to see why AFO told Aoyama to lure Deku into the woods. AFO wants OFA so surely he didn’t want Aoyama to kill Deku. And he can’t expect Aoyama to be able to take down Deku. I’m assuming there’s more machinations at play (I’m anime only btw).
I know I'm wrong but think about this: Ochaco could be a traitor.... She always threw up before she trained herself to use her quirk...all for one used a quirk to make his life support machine float... Maybe he duplicated the quirk before giving it to her
You're not villain for making one bad mistake us call vack to season 4 with gentle criminal and how jis life was ruined by one mistake and everyone turning on him. He turned into a villain because he had no other options he never finished hero school and being discharged from school and on gis recorded sealed him away from all jobs.
big manga spoilers!! Just a guess, but she may have seen the hands surrounding Bakugo and thought it was foreshadowing his death by Shigaraki. Chris had also just said "he's gonna die" and she seemed to get that look of realization right after that. She said she was pretty upset about it too and we know Bakugo is one of her favorites 😅
I'm with Suraj MHA needs more recognition, especially in terms of manga adaptation. Every anime episode is 2 manga chapters and there are very few filler episodes
Someone told me you see her whole body in the manga. 🫣guess the author was serious when he said she is invisible. Wish she got something like that dude who goes throught things so she can wear cloths but yeah guess that defeats purpose.
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Sometimes those who are always twinkling are those that are suffering the most. Would you forgive Aoyama?
It’s in my nature to
Aoyama is the reason the world greatest hero all might is gone
@@gotenurameshi8958I guess will just ignore Afo doing all that planing
Considering his reason was to keep his parents alive, I would forgive him even though it’s hard after everything that happened because of him
never
You gotta remember the way AFO gets people is that he makes them think that he’s their friend and on their side. Then as soon as he has them it’s hey I need you to return the favour or die
I think alot of people misunderstood yuga parents. The thing with afo is that most ppl who deal with him don't know he's AFO they just think he's a generous guy with the power to give quirks.
"The road too Hell is paved with good intentions" and too this day people still don't fully understand what that means.
Agreed,
That’s why I live my life with nothing but bad intentions 👍
Heaven here I come 🙂
No
I've always preferred the full quote:
"The road to Hell is ordered by the righteous, planned by the well-meaning, and paved with good intentions."
It gives more nuance; most of the time, it's lots of little things adding up to something terrible. And also most of the time, none of the people involved meant for it to end terribly.
And yet...
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I'm so glad you guys give credit to this show. At some point, the anime community decided that this show deserved all the hate for some reason, and it's never been fair or true. It's a wonderful show, and I'm happy to have people like you around that aren't afraid to say so.
“Popular thing bad” was the phase
What I've found incredibly weird in some media like Anime is that the show is criticized for outside areas that have nothing to do with the quality of the show itself like Fanbases or external commentary which weirds people out. I agree the over-hate on the show itself is pretty unwarranted.
My only problem was, and not that I want this to happen, but no one ever dies (our squad) like i get it, but it feels like there's no actual risk knowing they're all gonna come out ok 😅 I still watch tho.
It’s because the popular stuff *always* get more hate than they deserve. It’s not exclusive to this show. It happened with Dragon Ball, Naruto, Fairy Tail, and so many others. Basically, if something is popular, expect there to be an undeserving level of hate. It’s like a universal rule, with very rare exceptions. It’s how trolling works.
@@cjjackson2423 That was a mistake on the authors part. There were moments characters should have died and the Mangaka just didn't. I think they like the characters too much. By this point we needed to have seen a dozen more deaths of hero's and some civilians. Who it is doesn't matter, just that someone dies. All Might on the scene was the one time no one should die. He should have been able to save everyone while he had his powers. However the rest of the time people should die.
Suraj found the right time to rewatch the first couple of seasons
we not going to talk about AFO absolutely roasting Dabi? 'because unlike you toya, I have many friends'. He didn't need to murder the guy but he did and it was amazing
Didn't need to roast someone who was already burnt
Knowing Aoyama was quirkless, paints all his showboating, throughout the series, in more tragic light. He's basically somebody that was born with a disability, that got corrective surgery later on. He shows off because he couldn't before, like a lame person, running and leaping all over the place, when they finally gain the ability to walk. He also felt like a social outcast, so when he showed off it was like he was shouting "Look at me, everyone! I'm the same as you!".
Aoyama was forced into a position, no kid should ever be in; all because his parents wanted him to feel like a normal person. And you could clearly see how much anguish he was feeling, over the actions he was forced to take. He's clearly sorry, and now has the chance to do the right thing. So yes, I forgive Aoyama.
Thank you!!! Horikoshi absolutely knows how to write disabled people without being clichéd
Forreal. This was actually foreshadowed REALLY well.
Nothing to forgive. His parents didn't do anything wrong wrong.
Aoyama was just protecting his parents for not being killed. Who wouldn't have acted the same in his place?.
As soon as Aoyama's parents talked to All for One and got him a quirk, they were screwed! I feel so bad for Aoyama 😢. Joel McDonald did a beautiful job. Its been a while since ive heard him get that emotional 😭❤️
Suraj is spittin bro, I'm tired of the "Hori can draw but can't write" bs. That man is a genius at storytelling
Ohhh boyyyyy
Unless it’s slow paced few fights shonen gets labeled bad writing by haters. The pace is faster so things can’t breathe but if they slow down their axed or called mid. So I give em a pass. Frieren is shonen and people call it better than all shonen. People just hate on most shonen besides one piece. Not sure where they go to read good action series if all shonen that’s mainstream to them is trash and mid aka chainsawman, bleach, jjk, hxh, so on
This is not genius storytelling
People complain about the right things. Of course there's people who will overhate, but is a fact that a lot of things in the manga could be more fleshed out, actually SHOULD be more fleshed out.
Characters like Bakugo, Uraraka, Toga and even Shigaraki would not be as divisive if Hori was a more competent writer, he failed to get his point across and that's why people see Baguko as someone who doesn't deserve his redemption, Uraraka as a boring character who doesn't deserve all the spotlight she gets, and Shigaraki and Toga as two cry babies and hipocrites. And is actually funny because Endeavor has one complex story arc that could go wrong very easily, but with him Hiro never missed, and that's why he is not divisive. And that's only one of the problems the story has.
People seem to ignore the fact that this man has a rabid fanbase always bothering him so that 100% effects the quality of his writing
the part where he said making mistakes or committing a crime, knowing deep down that you didn’t mean to doesn’t mean you have to be a villain forever and to me now that was a moment that takes me back to my hero academia season episode 22 because now those were the right words to say for two characters we know from there.
You have to at least show some remorse unlike these "people".
They haven't said when All For One got the explosion quirk that he blew Lady Nagant up with. He could have had it 10 years ago and even if he didn't he could have multiple quirks to deal with traitors. All For One has been around for over 100 years there's no telling what kind of quirks he has.
In Aoyama’s parents’ defense, they didn’t know All for One was evil. He wasn’t a publicly known villain until his fight with All Might in season 3, so they thought he was just some guy who could give quirks to people
Tecknically he was known just not publically as he was never recorded in the history books witch is kinda a L.
Exactly. They made ONE bad decision out of love for their child, resulting in their entire family being under the thumb of a madman.
Another thing to note is that the SECOND the jig was up, they made it crystal clear that their son was NOT to blame for their actions. I'm certain Aoyama's parents already have their share of haters, but in actuality, they're not bad people.
Every reactor I’ve watched forgets this fact. It’s frustrating seeing everyone come after his parents.
yeah his parents literally said in this episode that if they knew that this would happen they wouldn't get a quirk from AFO
I suspected Aoyama in Season 4, when he told Deku that his quirk isn’t compatible with his body.
Tons of people forget, the doctor who told Midoriya he was quirkless is the same doctor who was helping All for One. Aoyama also went to that same doctor but his family was introduced to All for One. Aoyama and Midoriya could have been in the exact opposite situation.
Aoyama has a completely different doctor.
I don’t think Deku could have been in the situation. I’m sure Aoyama’s parents being rich & having those types of connections that rich people have, they were probably much more useful at getting information
Don't forget deku went to hospital with all might's action figure, so doctor already see nah not this one@@ImaBobbyMudda
I’m just gonna say it, Aoyama doesn’t deserve to be blamed or imprisoned for this. He’s a kid who was forced into a situation where he had the choice of doing what he was told or dying with his parents. I know there’s consequences and stuff, but like, I’m with Midoriya here.
If anything it's his parents who should be held accountable. They despaired over their child being different and they were so desperate for him to be like everyone else that they basically made a deal with the devil so their son could fit in.
well obviously the only person in this show I've ever seen you believe should face consequences for their actions is Endeavor everyone else gets the pass
@@foxtrot-gamesandwit4475 No? I think the consequences should be faced for people who went out of their way to be horrible. Endeavor, the villains (even though I feel differently they should still be held accountable), but Aoyama's a super different case.
Hagakure's hair is green and pink but there are like 4 types of green, its really pretty
13:11 13:12 Oh my god no matter how I see this, this never gets old and I continue to love that scene so much. We surely all agree that this this was Toru Hagakure's breathtaking breakingthrough (like my word set 😉?) moment. A perfect time to reveal her face. She looks like a devastated fairy. Her mystical appearance and her severe rebuke combined with her teary-eyed broken heart makes it sufficient enough to be a unforgettable and audience-affecting. Aoyama's conscience and sense of self-worth must be going to hell so much right now. I'm sure he'll remember this as his greatest shame that's portrayed by Toru's anguished face and her armor-piercing question
PS: Because I got busy with other stuff + plus reading the mangas I stopped watching watching your reactions since the end of season 4 but when I heard that Yuga aoyama's a traitor and that invisible girl's true face has been revealed my reaction enthusiasm got refired and you guys are my favorite reactors anyway. So I'll be sure to catch up as soon as it's possible.
One other thing about Aoyama’s parents. They both speak with a French accent so chances are they are both from France. They may not have known about the evils of All for One as that’s not part of their country. They just heard that someone in Japan can give quirks to those who are quirkless. Like a parent traveling the country for the chance of a life saving surgery, just to find out it was a scam. It’s sad really.
Are they really French? Then why do they have the name Aoyama? I'm guessing because they're rich, they both grew up in France or abroad both were born in Japan
@@itsh1231 there is also the possibility that they were part Japanese on his fathers side (Aoyama is his fathers name) but his mother is completely French. That would mean that Aoyama is a quarter Japanese. Even up to a half Japanese, we know that his childhood was in France.
I just imagine that All For One gave Aoyama the Naval Laser quirk because he got tired of shitting his pants after shooting a laser. What better way to get rid of that quirk. Plus he probably thought it would be funny if he gave that quirk to Aoyama.
As far as we know because of his quirk All for one basically suffers zero drawbacks from his quirks so it was him just not caring about some rando kid unlike with his broski.
I loved the discussion at the beginning with Suraj talking about how good MHA is. I recently rewatched the whole show, because of season 7 coming out and it reminded me how good it is and also how much I love it. MHA is definitely overhated and it was just nice to hear Suraj appreciating the show so much.
Same, had been rewatching the show together with a good reactor like Letts react is very nice. The opinion coming from the first time watcher give me a sense of relatability as mostly the opinion is similar with how i perceived the story from the first watching. It's also make me more appreciate and realize any point or details that i had miss when i watch it alone. It strengthen the position MHA/BNHA as my favorite anime in my heart
21:47 "I thought it was Midnight" Bro she died last season
wouldn't make her innocent right lol
I think people are really underestimating the situation with Aoyama's family and All For One. He has proven to do WHATEVER he needs to in order for his plans to succeed. I won't say anything about why they couldn't have been double agents for UA because that will be explained, but what makes anyone think that he would stop at killing Aoyama's parents? What makes anyone think that Aoyama himself hasn't heard threats from AFO's own mouth? They were ALL in danger. Does it suck that his parents have to use him to keep them all safe? Yes, and they recognize that and even put the blame on themselves, but to say that are bad people or whatever is really minimizing the situation they were in. I always think about how easy it is to say you would do something different from an outside perspective, but from a realistic standpoint, that type of fear can really consume you to doing whatever AFO wants.
And no hate to the reaction or anything, I always enjoy them (even with the misremembered things lol) but this is just a topic that I think people see as black or white when it is so, so very gray.
Rana has to be serious in this instance. If a major evil villain is threatening you and your family and shows people dying in front of you. You’re not going to easily turn against him. The parents are still wrong don’t get me wrong. But it’s just a messed up situation.
Also it’s All For One (bad)
One For All (Deku good)
The thing about Aoyama’s parents having him spy for All for One, is that it wasn’t just their lives at stake. It was *his* life too. If his parents died, All for One would kill the son too. So they had no choice but to do what All for One wanted or the whole family would be killed. So they _were_ taking responsibility. It’s not like they could’ve spied on UA themselves, after all.
THey are so quick to judge, as if they or other people who judge Aoyoma and his parents wouldnt have done the exact same thing. Its not to say they were right necessarily in their decision but be real that its not as if a lot of these people wouldnt have made the same decision in that position.
Once again, the MHA dub goes off. Aoyama and Hagakure especially give some KILLER performances this episode.
Rana knows how to twist everything to an extreme why would the parents die as a taking responsibility lol
Marketa going through the stages of grief in that intro because she started noticing things 😭
Deku went through 10 years of bullying because he was a part of rare 20% of people born without a quirk.
20% isn't even that rare though.
@@nukiesduke6868 it's not rare in a general sense, but that 20% is skewed to older generations since they become more rare each generation. For Deku's generation it's likely under 5%, and that's being generous.
@@kingclown6685 Oh yea you're right. Forgot to factor in the generational aspect of it. good call.
And people ship him with his bully.
We finally have our traitor reveal. Btw, the line, "I have friends to spare" with the closeup shot of Invisible Girl actually was the end of a chapter in the manga. Some people thought she was the traitor because of that. While other people thought she was actually looking at the traitor. I was in that second group. But boy was it a chaotic wait. I also love how Touya just does not care at all for AFO's rants or talking. It doesn't seem like anyone from the League likes him very much. Which makes sense. They all came together to work with Shigaraki. Not AFO. So he's basically a stranger to them that is now trying to hold the reins. An outsider, if you will.
Toya actually doesent care about anyone and well All for ones rants mean more than whatever dogshit Tomura was spewing.
@@samuelclayhills3298Nah, while you are right about Touya, the League Members did legitimately bond with Shigaraki, especially Spinner. They are basically only siding with AfO out of convenience rather than camaraderie, Shigaraki promised a chaotic world where the villains could run wild which is a lot more meaningful than AfO's selfish, adolescent Demon Lord wet dream
This Episode Shocked Me 😮 I never knew the Traitor suspicion will finally be brought up
Y'all need to stop hating on Aoyama's parents so much. It's not like they knew the trouble they were gonna get themselves into.
On an unrelated note, it is really cool to see how much stronger Mineta has gotten. He seems to have toughened up to where he no longer bleeds from overusing his quirk.
Unpopular Opinion: UA failed Mineta.
He could be one of the most OP characters in the series but the staff seems to have ignored him.
He should have been encouraged to work on his body so that by now he should be launching his balls like a MLB pitcher. With speed, power, and pinpoint accuracy.
Also if you haven't noticed those balls are the some of the toughest things in world. So far nothing has been able to destroy them or separate from them once they're stuck. Even Giganto Machia. When they were stuck to his foot the only way he was able to get out was to rip the ground out below the balls. The balls stayed stuck to both his foot and to the ground underneath. If he was stuck to a stronger surface he wouldn't have been able to get out.
*I can’t be mad at Aoyama if I’m being honest. He didn’t want or choose for any of this to happen. If anything, he basically had a gun to his head the whole time. It may have been a bad thing to do, but he’s not a villain.*
MHA fans that actually like and respect MHA i thought those didnt exist anymore. Really tho, MHA is a good anime that gets way too overhated.
They exist but not being so loud in internet 😂. Like it's seem so rare. Yeah major of fans didn't appreciate the plot the story give us ,they mostly only look forward on the fight and put aside the details. Well i do understand why bcuz season 1-2 is really give many memorable episode for the fight, and that's what most fans keep attached to the MHA
Justin Briner is so goated. When they need him to cook, he COOKS.
All the time since the first day of UA the League of Villains knew what the Heroes were doing before they did. The attack of the school, the incident at the training camp, the whole incident from last season etc. Can't believe they didn't see it coming!!
Chris buddy. Bakugou throws around explosions it ain't gotta be a trap to mess people up. But now unlike before when all his explosions were instant and one directional. Now he has essentially mines he can set off on remote. Doesn't matter if u seen it before or not it's gonna be tough paying attention to lil sweat droplets that suddenly explode all around u
I wondered why that "You too, can be a hero" sounded so familiar, it's what he said to Katsuma in heroes rising.
It's also what All Might says to Midoriya in episode 1
@@brushark9090 episode 2. It was the line that sold me on watching the show in dub.
His parents need to be LOCKED UPPPPPPP. AOYAMA IS ONLY THE VICTIM OF HIS PARENTS ACTIONS
The author did a great job with with hinting at the Aoyama twist from the beginning. He’s always been the mysterious oddball of the class and there are so many moments that make you wonder about him. That season 4 episode of him talking to Deku means so much more in hindsight.
Nagant is not new they literally say they have no idea if Ayoma has a detonation put in him like her. They also say how people just end up dead in general when they cross him. Do you think he wouldnt have killed Ayoma?
This betrayal and reveal was wild cuz I ain’t even think it’d be him and I ain’t think we’d see invisible girl ever 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
How the hell do you consider AFO to have ever been quirkless. If anything, he has any quirk
Since day one I've been a fan of my hero academia and I love every season of it. It's one of the best animes out but everyone hates it because it's popular
When Suraj was talking at the beginning about the parallels between the brothers and Shigaraki/Deku and the sharing of being quirk-less at first it made me think of that scene in Captain America the First avenger where Stanley Tucci's Erskine sits down with Chris Evans Steve Rogers and they have a heart to heart over the importance of being a good man and Steve asking why he was chosen, I imagine Deku felt the same with that great power Steve and Deku share a lot of similarities but mainly just the altruism of both being their strongest traits. (I know both obviously hero stories but that just resonated with me that scene specifically)
As a manga reader, I genuinely have no idea what spoiler Marketa is talking about in the opening. The only two real spoilers are Invisible Girl’s face and Aoyama in the chair, and both of those have already happened now.
Spoiler
the death flags…
It's kinda cute that you all are mixing up OFA (good) and AFO (bad)
Suraj is spitting facts at the start !!
funnily enough, the manga did the same thing where horikoshi ended the chapter of all for one talking about his friends while showing hagakure
So I responded to a comment on your reaction to episode 3x7 (currently the top comment on that video in case people need to fact check it) where I predicted this would happen and was very close with my prediction. A year later I was proved right in the manga and finally here we are 3 years later
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Marketas logic of someone being bad for doing bad stuff while their entire family including themselvs is threathend with death is just dumb. By this logic you might as well includ Yuga.
Were 7 seasons in and the one for all and all for one is still being confused around
I love it
You can tell who the sociopaths are by the people that give no consideration to Aotamas situation
We finally get to see Invisible Girl's face
I honestly don't see how anyone blames Yuga or his parents, yeah they could've just let their child be quirkless but that was just a really bad decision. They're not monsters. Their choices were literally life or death.
18:05 Also I assume that the whole family would die, not just the parents, that just makes sense to me.
if Kylo Ren saw this he would shout "TRAITOR!!!"
What did Marketa see in the intro that she thinks is some big spoiler that they have to avoid now? 5:15 Seemed like she was noticing it during the sequence where Deku is running through the burning city, passing by all his classmates. Was she noticing the almost peaceful look on Bakugo's face before that sequence, along with what he's standing on, then noticing that Bakugo isn't there during Deku's run, and assuming it's foreshadowing a death, or something? Because He's there in that sequence, at the end after Ochaco. it's just very brief. I can see how someone could interpret that as death foreshadowing, but I don't think that's what it is at all. I think avoiding the intro is an overreaction.
I wonder what Marketa saw in the opening because I read the manga and apart from characters, I don't know what the OP spoils
Yeah I’m curious too
i have not read the manga nor do i know if this is true . . .
bakugo standing on hands and smiling in the next frame looks sus (you can also look when that comes on the screen and marketa's face after)
@@korosensei._.what does that mean tho and why does she know? She read it also?
@@cjjackson2423she’s noticing what could be known as a “death flag.” No spoilers, it’s just a fair interpretation.
To clear it up a bit; he was born quirkless, and his parents, who love him very much, feared for him, feared that he would be treated like the outcast of the group, that he wouldnt be able to go forward and get to his dreams because he didnt have powers, so they went to the person who was capable of giving people quirks; AFO. What they did not realize at the time, however, is that when he did that, he told them that they owe him, and expected their cooperation any time he called them up.
So of course, when it was time for him to take the exam to get into UA, AFO made sure to let him know, "Hey, you work for me, tell me whats going on at UA, or your parents are gonna pay for it."
Yuga was in a no win situation from the jump, no matter how you slice it. Cant help but feel bad for this family.
All for One would have killed Aoyama too if the parents had done nothing. They were in a no-win solution as soon as the quirk was given. And the "we will die" is not just the parents, it's the entire family.
In my opinion, I don't think Aoyama's parents put him up to it. I don't think they forced him to do stuff for them now that they realized AFO was evil.
AFO IS evil and probably asked to use their son as a resource. I don't think hee gave them a choice. All Might was going to be a teacher in UA and AFO needed someone to be in UA
"The trope of french being cowards - which is bullshit"
Something I heard once years ago: If I make an 'and the French surrender' joke, everyone laughs, even though the French have not surrendered in every war they've been in. In fact, it was really just the one....but it was KIND of an important one so they have to own it.
Aoyama’s parents definitely screwed up. Pressuring their son is beyond screwed up. They deserve more blame than their son. At the same time the situation is more nuanced than the parents are just 100% bad people who are using their son. All for One kept a lot of his existence secret for most of his time in power. Remember back in season 2 Midioriya didn’t even know who All for One was, despite being a mega fan who knows everything about All Might until All Might told him who All for One is.
All for One put effort into putting up a mask of being a benevolent being who helps people. That is how he always gets people. They see him as a benevolent person who wants to help them who will ask for a favor in return. Then later they found out the favor is working for him under threat of death for them and their loved ones. By then they are too scared to come forward. As far as they know AFO has killed everyone who has come forward. He specifically showed these people what would happen if they betrayed him. I don’t want to excuse everything the family did, but I also do think they did this for love of their son and that the threat was the whole family will be killed, not just the parents specifically. It makes no sense why AFO would leave Aoyama out of this and just kill the parents. Now the parents definitely emotionally manipulated him by saying Aoyama was their only hope to escape death, but I do very much believe AFO told them he would kill their entire family if they betrayed him.
The parents owning up to everything when they were caught and taking the full blame while trying to minimize their son’s actions shows they do care and love for him. I don’t think it is fair to say they only cared for themselves.
Again, not excusing it, but I don’t think we should downplay the fear factor either.
What did Marketa notice in the intro? I honestly can't think of anything that's THAT big of a spoiler
The reason "theanimemen" roast mha or in general mha getting lot of hate online is because if it's annoying fandom. Now I know every fandom has toxic fans and it's especially very common among anime ones ,but goddamn mha fandom is just on another level. So most people hate the fandom, they don't hate the show at all.
Blaming the parents is just naive and dumb, they only wanted what was best for their son and considering how deku was treated we all know it was horrible being quirkless. They didn't know who AFO was because literally no one did they just thought he was someone who could help their son and by the time they found out it was too late because betraying him would have ended with their whole family dying. Your bright idea was to just die and what leave him alone because that worked out well for shigaraki🤦🏾♂️just fuck him up mentally some more. Plus if you think he would have just stopped at them you insane he more then likely also threatened them with their sons death
Thank you for doing the Og intro
16:47 I wonder who cuts her hair? 🤔
...and how?
That's why it's relatively long; and they can feel it
Painfully oblivious that some of them have been spoiled on some things but it's cool
Like what? Genuinely curious
@@TheFiddler69 enjoy the ignorance
@@ZdahszdahsThat answers just makes it look like you have no real answer at all 😭
@@cjjackson2423 your interpretation means nothing to me
@@Zdahszdahs Good as long as you know we all don't believe you now 😭
Aoyama’s parents are snobs, and definitely manipulated him into following AFO instead of just talking with him or trying to help alleviate the burden by making his priorities about self preservation and/or being crafty and witty. But they also have the equivalent of a terrorist manipulating them. And they were used to the easy rich life. Money fixed shit, but for the first time ever it ruined everything. I agree that the real issue they are truly guilty of (bc let’s face it, AFO absolutely would’ve killed aoyama first and then his parents as punishment for daring to go against him) is using emotional manipulation tactics to put their son through hell to save their skins. It’s one of the few weapons the raised wealthy/spoiled have at their disposal.
Horikoshi is a damn good writer
they should use the belly lazer kid than put than into the ground there villans
Yessssss give me all the My Hero sugar!!! This is a beautiful story full of rich and complex world and character building and it's one of the goats for a reason!!!!
man, what did marketa saw in the OP that's a spoiler for anything after this episode??
I know Aoyama is the highlight here, and I feel super bad for him, but can we talk about Hagakure and how GREAT she looks??!! :D
Classic Mineta
Anyone got a clue what Marketa saw in the intro that upset her? As a manga reader i could be missing what she's interpreting as a spoiler. Only one I could think of was Hagakure but she said it wasn't that
I went back and watched the intro after watching this video, trying to pinpoint what part of the intro she was watching when she had that reaction. I wasn't concerned about spoilers because I'm a bit past this season in the manga. From what I can tell, the only thing that could have been a potential spoiler past when they commented about Bakugou's outfit was the overall background. Specifically, the state of the buildings and the streets when Deku is swinging through and tagging in his friends.
I love your my hero Academia reactions please never stop until u finish it
So glad i get to see this reaction to the traitor reveal 😊 and i have to agree dont watch the intro if you dont wanna be spoiled
I’m interested to see why AFO told Aoyama to lure Deku into the woods. AFO wants OFA so surely he didn’t want Aoyama to kill Deku. And he can’t expect Aoyama to be able to take down Deku. I’m assuming there’s more machinations at play (I’m anime only btw).
Suraj lookin like hes about to audition to play Pavitr Prabhakar in an upcoming Spiderman Movie!
I know I'm wrong but think about this: Ochaco could be a traitor.... She always threw up before she trained herself to use her quirk...all for one used a quirk to make his life support machine float... Maybe he duplicated the quirk before giving it to her
0:26 Hilarious Suraj
i cry every time rewatching it..
I miss these uploads being on monday or tuesday
Is Sruaj wearing a Majin T-shirt your way of telling us that his Villain arc is starting ?
I wish the anime had kept the scene of Aoyama being beaten up and bruised because he was getting bullied for being quirkless.
You're not villain for making one bad mistake us call vack to season 4 with gentle criminal and how jis life was ruined by one mistake and everyone turning on him. He turned into a villain because he had no other options he never finished hero school and being discharged from school and on gis recorded sealed him away from all jobs.
I’m a manga reader and I’m gonna be honest, I have no idea what Marketa saw that spoiled her. 😅
I am asking the same questions because this OP only have spoilers until this episode XD
big manga spoilers!!
Just a guess, but she may have seen the hands surrounding Bakugo and thought it was foreshadowing his death by Shigaraki. Chris had also just said "he's gonna die" and she seemed to get that look of realization right after that. She said she was pretty upset about it too and we know Bakugo is one of her favorites 😅
I'm with Suraj MHA needs more recognition, especially in terms of manga adaptation. Every anime episode is 2 manga chapters and there are very few filler episodes
2:05 👀 So when do I get to come watch anime? No reason... lol
AFO is not Quirkless...
Someone told me you see her whole body in the manga. 🫣guess the author was serious when he said she is invisible. Wish she got something like that dude who goes throught things so she can wear cloths but yeah guess that defeats purpose.
Suraj, did you re-wacth in the sub or dub?
Praying for the day you guys stop mistaking One for All for All for One. It's a stupid nitpick I know, but I can't help it hahaha
You guys should read Superpowereds by drew hayes it's basically MHA in college in America it's so good
!NORMIES¡ you guys have a post credit scene coming up in next weeks episode it’s very short 🫡
U guys should react to rising of the shield hero the dub is good
React to the film: LATE NIGHT WITH THE DEVIL (2024), the most creative horror film of the year and one of the best of recent times, you'll like it.