I’m a numbers girl too. I really don’t care for the SML size range on patterns. I find the number listing is (for lack of a better word) less triggering. It is also easier to follow in the pattern. Please keep us apprised on the release of this pattern. Love it. You did a great job.
I'm numbers and letters girl! I prefer number slightly more, but I don't like standard sizes. For one, it doesn't say anything to me if something is M or L, and I would still need to check the size range to figure out my size later in the pattern as some designers start with XS, some with XXS and some with S, so when I decide on a size I still go back to check from what size I need to count. For letters and nubers they're always starting with A or 1.
I love the new intro! I prefer the number sizes because when I’m following a pattern it’s so much easier to make sure I have correct stitch count throughout. Some letter patterns begin with xs some start at xxs. Number patterns always start with “1”
Thank you for this very entertaining (as always 🙂) podcast episode. Regarding your question about the names for sizes: I always look at the chest measurement given and then choose the size; I don't really care what it's called.
Combination knitting (twisting the purl stitch then fixing it by knitting through the back loop on the next row) is my favorite discovery of the last few months! It's how I do all my ribbing and purling when I knit flat.
I love your discovery , and your comment made me think - would the opposite hold true?? I find knitting through the back loop so much easier than purling through the back loop. Could one purl normally and then knit through the back loop to achieve the same thing?
I don't really look at what a pattern calls the sizes, but my focus is what ease I want and what the finished bust measurement is. And then I go from there! :) so not really any preferance.
If you go to the pattern page for your Yoga winter sweater on Ravelry, you can click ‘add to library’ top right, and even though you didn’t buy it through ravelry, it will show up in your library. xx
I like the numbers for sizing. I look up my bust then go with that number size and highlight throughout the pattern. I also feel society has made a stigma of size letters. People don’t want to hear they are 5XL. Things are slowly changing and becoming size inclusive which is a huge step forward ❤️
I talked about this in a recent podcast I posted! I totally understand why people like numbered sizing, as a “smaller” person I know I don’t have the same stigma in my head attached to different sizes. It personally really helps me when making choices to have a “real world” reference. It may be because I’m narrow but tall so pattern sizing tends to recommend a smaller size for me than I need. I’ve been duped before into knitting the XS and it never ends well😂 because the sizes offered by designers varies the #1 could be the S or the XS or the XXS, and I never know if I’m gonna get got this time around lmao
It was you!!! I knew it was in regards to the Beatrix and I couldn’t place who it was!! I found your perspective to be so fascinating as someone who feels so opposite!! I could totally understand wanting that frame of reference if sizing across knitting patterns was more universal. I wish it was!! But for me, the numbers just remove any expectations from the equation and force me to measure myself and gauge lol. I always love to hear different perspectives on these things so thank you for bringing it up for conversation!!
Love the boucle sweater on you - your choice for the contrast yarn was spot on. Personally I like sizing by finished garment measurements (chest for sweaters) which gives me a real immediate sense of the amount of ease the garment will have at each size. As someone with a very small frame I’ve found it helpful to think about the recommended ease and sometimes scale it to get a more flattering garment.
I don’t care how the pattern sizes are designated. I know what size to make once I see the finished bust size and intended ease. More important are the brackets so it’s easy to find my numbers throughout. I highlight all of them first step.
I check the bust size and the amount of ease! Then determine the size I want to make. Some pattern have 10-15" of ease. I may not want that much. Also check your gauge swatch. Sometimes, it still doesn't turn out right but the important thing is keep checking the width/ length and be sure it's okay. I've seen people show their top that is obviously too big/small but they kept knitting... Why waste that much time and effort? Measure while you are knitting (or crocheting). Don't think its magically going to be the correct size when you sew it together. Love your cozy brown sweater. 💜
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Hi Nora & Osi, I put this comment here because it is the most recent. I just found you after another video I watched mentioned you. I love your videos and your rants because I do the same. I am also a life long crocheter and have finally decided to start knitting. I used to knit but hated it because it was so slow. This time I looked into different styles of knitting and settled on the Norwegian style and when hands bother me I will use the Portuguese style because it is so ergonomic. The way you knit is the English style. I was having so much trouble with my hands crocheting, knitting has helped this so much! I really relate to your little rants especially being at the yarn store. I have been in the yarn store sweating because I am overwhelmed and can’t decide. I really love you sense of adventure and courage. I have a few things that may help you in the long run: 1. The only company that makes smaller than 3mm interchangeable needles is Knit Picks and they are interchangeable with all the items you have except the Chiaogoo. They are called Refections Options Interchangeable Lace/Sock Needle Tips. They are available in a set @ $65.99, they are having a 30% off sale right now. The mindful collection are stainless steel so they do not have the nickel coating and are much pointier because they are lace needles. These are my favourite. 2. The Messi dress, when you are machine sewing try using a double needle. You can have the 2 colours, one on either side and the it zigzags in the back. For any fabric that you are having trouble with the glide on your sewing machine you can use tissue paper on the bottom and then you can just rip it away. If any little pieces are left behind you can just use a tweezers, most wash away when blocking. For thin fabrics you can use a piece on top and one on the bottom. Any tissue paper will do. I just get mine from a dollar store. I hope all this helps you in your journey! Lots of love💕💕💕
I like making fingerless mitts for gifts. If you use worsted weight yarn, they go super fast. There are many free patterns on Ravelry. I knit 4 hats completely from stash scraps this month to send to flood victims in NC.
Hi Nora, I am English and have always been used to patterns listing chest sizes in inches with the finished size listed underneath, so I always know how much ease the designer has added.
I love the numbers system, too, for the same reasons that you mentioned! I think people's overreliance on the S/M/L scheme is what creates most fit-related issues. I always see people saying "this sweater is too oversized" because they picked their normal department store size instead of reading the measurements + the designer's recommended amount of ease. If the sizes were 1/2/3, you'd have the think a little harder about what size you wanted and would help you make more informed fit decisions! But I guess some people love the struggle, haha.
Oh, Nora. I usually listen to you on Saturday mornings. But I am so enjoying your video with a glass of wine after a cross country flight. You are such a chill chica!!!❤❤
The boucle sweater is to die for! The color and style look great on you and youll get a lot of wear out of it. Good luck with all your projects. The new intro and graphics are dynamite!
Sizing is so ambiguous and when you read the details and talk about the amount of ease 2”, 10” 😵💫. Easily identify what you want when buying from a store but when knitting better to go by the schematic. Thank you Nora for your wonderful podcast.
I like when they put the finished bust measurement…. So if I want a finished measurement of 44 I follow that one… but in the end I just like that they group them in a way that it’s easy to circle the size you are making, either with colors or using parentheses to break them apart and make it easier to count them out. And ❤I also decide the ease I want for the garment and make that size
With knitting patterns, I find out how much ease the designer intended and look at the different bust measurements. It does not matter to me if it’s numbers, letters, or more traditional xs, s, etc. I go more by ease. Also as a side note, I just taught myself how to reverse knit back across the row so I don’t have to purl when knitting flat. It is a good dexterity and brain exercise.
So true!! I do always value when designers share their size vs. measurements as well as intended ease, etc. I have heard of a few people doing that reverse knitting!! I’d love to try it sometime! Seems like a fun challenge!
Nora, your yarn choice for the ribbing on the bouclé sweater is lovely. I have knitted the Mickan jacket by Meiju Knits (on Ravelry) and she has designed it with a similar idea as yours. The size looks perfect for you. This is much more usable because you can wear it under a coat. About how the different ways to mark sizes I prefer just 1, 2, 3... Sizes differ in Europe and the US, and even within Europe. We must remember to always check the size. On Ravelry my sizes go from L to 3XL because I have large lady lumps! And I am short, so I always have to modify the length of the body and sleeves.
For sizing, I don’t mind any of the options since I pick size based on ease and bust measurement anyway. I do think sometimes I find SML sizing annoying while looking for patterns though because there is no standard measurements for those, I find people will slap a 2XL label on something that would never be a 2XL in a store just to seem more size inclusive. I think it’s harder to do that with number or letter sizing.
I prefer the numbered sizes because they’re easier to count like you described, but also because there is no implied judgement of being extra anything.
I have found that not only does an XL differ from store to store, but it differs from designer to designer. So it does not matter how the sizes are given in a pattern, as long as I can reconcile it to the measurements I need. I am a XL and I have knitted everything from a Smedium to 3XL in sweater sizes.
I don't care about SML vs numbers because the only thing they tell me is how many sizes are available. The sizing in the US is so random and one brand's L is another brand's M. Only the measurement information counts for me - what's the finished measurement and ease the designer intended. One of the websites I buy clothing from lists measurements for ALL garments in a details section, so I always go straight to those. And to choose the size I want for a sweater pattern, I measured my favorite sweater and matched those measurements.
Hi Nora! I'm in loooove with your Artemisia Sweater 😍😍😍 looks amazing! I actually hadn't thought about which version of sizing I like best, but I tend to do the counting method as well when I'm going through a pattern and highlighting....so I guess the number sizing is way easier. ❤️
Such beautiful knits! You really convinced me that the Artemesia sweater is something I need. ❤ it is nice to hear you talk about fashion details. And I love the color of gray for your sister’s cardigan. I hope she loves it and brags about her knitting sister. 😅
Love that Artemisia sweater! I think I’m going to have to add it to my ever growing to be knit list. 😅 When I first started knitting (and crocheting) almost all my projects had some sort of fun texture to the yarn. Maybe not ideal yarn to learn on as a beginner but the fun texture to the yarns kept me wanting to work on my projects. Now I’ve been using smooth yarns for so long I kind of forgot how much I love knitting with textures, like a bouclé yarn. Thanks for reminding me of something I forgot and giving me an idea for a future project. 🙂
I prefer number sizing because when I'm finding my instructions in the pattern I count to the proper size. I would never remember which patterns start with a S, XS, XXS. And now I see you said the same thing 🤣
I also prefer the number sizing. Because then it's easier to count! And I have an attachment to the letter sizing, being that I was a small through most of my 20s and now I'm needing to embrace mediums and larges across the board in my 30s. I'd rather my knitting just focus on the numbers rather than any associations I have to lettered sizing.
Hi Nora, I prefer numbers, I have to number the letters or sizes so that I can keep counting them as I follow instructions. Oh, watching you and you just explained my reasoning perfectly! Numbers are the simplest way to go.
The boucle sweater is so good! I’m so happy that you didn’t settle for the other colour of yarn for the cuffs/collar/hem. This version looks so high end!
I love your pattern choices. You really have a knack for finding styles that trend traditional, but with a little something extra. And... frequently not mainstream designers. It's great! 🙂
I count sizes the way you do and even include a note for that size since I generally don't print patterns (maybe bc I do a lot of test knits and there's usually at least some minor changes to be made) the other thing is 1 is always the start of numbers of I didn't have my number note I feel like I would be going back to the sizing section to see does it start with small? Xs? Xxs? They never seem to be the same
I 100% agree with you on all accounts as far as the pattern sizing goes. I have actually avoided knitting a pattern before because the size I would have ended up knitting was correlated with a "size" I had in my head I wasn't comfortable with. Silly? yes. Still happened in my brain? Also yes. I would prefer the 1 (2) 3, etc for the exact reason you mentioned (ease of highlighting).
Thank you for your upbeat knit channel. You are the first channel I watch on Sunday morning. You always help me to start the last day of the weekend positively. I always look forward to your updates.
I far prefer the either numbers or letters - I feel like it's easier for me to remember as I will find it harder to keep track of which size I am in a S,M,L etc pattern. Also I agree about the emotional attachment to being told I am a several XL size when usually in the UK I am only ever buying sizes in numbers unless they are unisex t shirts.
I can't wait to see your very own pattern for a sweater on Ravelry someday. I bet it will be sooner than later based on your production level and knitting gumption. I'm still so impressed with your skills . Your nails look so much like your yarn color choices. So good. Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge. Oh, I like sizes in either letters or numbers. The old school in me is used to the letters but I definitely think the number sizes do a huge service to any human who doesn't like to put themselves in a traditional size box.
I prefer the number sizing for the reason you stated, but ideally, they’d just use the finished garment chest measurement as the sizing (e.g. for inches it would be something like 34, 37, 40, etc) that way I wouldn’t have to scroll down and figure out which size number corresponds to the end size I’m trying to knit 😎
I like numbers and letters sooooo much more because I can actually be objective in planning my knits. I’ve knit most of my knits from patterns in S/M/L a size small because of personal reasons of always wanting to be a medium when usually I’m a large. Fun mental block, but it’s there, and letters and numbers take that internal stigma out of my head!
My favorite is when they just name it after the finished bust circumference. My pet peeve is when the finished bust circumference isn’t included at all and they only give you sizes based on what your bust is. I have narrower shoulders, a short torso, and a big bust and often can’t have the amount of positive ease the pattern calls for without armholes being too big.
I prefer numbered sizing as well. Like you, I go through the pattern and highlight the numbers I need to pay attention to so I’m counting the sizes anyway and using that to find all the datapoints I need to highlight. The name is pointless to me because I also don’t find that I’m not consistently the same from designer to designer so rather than refer to what is generally meant to be a “standard” name, I’d rather focus on the designer’s size number (letter is fine too but a number just makes more sense).
This is my first time watching your podcast and I really appreciate it! And I particularly like the price details at the ends of the projects. Thats really an important aspect that are usually left out of the other podcast.
I completely agree that numbered pattern sizing (1, 2, 3, 4) works better for me, for pretty much the same reasons as you, Nora. While I generally knit sizes 3 or 4 (or a modified combination of the two), it all comes down to the style and construction of the garment, the schematic measurements, recommended ease vs preferred ease, and the fabric density I want to achieve. Because I hate yarn chicken, and usually make modifications, I almost always purchase the yarn requirements for the size above the size I plan to knit the majority of the garment in. I do love me a good schematic and lots of sample knits to refer too. Most of the time I find a favourite project version of the pattern I wish to emulate. It’s rarely the sample photo. Your Frank Ocre Ranunculus is a great example of this. I have already purchased the yarn and plan to replicate your ease and gauge by our Summer Christmas. I think it will be indispensable on cooler summer evenings and in the transitional seasons.
Nora - right now on Ravelry’s front page is information on how you can add a non-Ravelry purchased pattern to your Ravelry library. I like having all of mine in one place so this is very handy.
I do wish there was a standard for knitting patterns somehow... Sizes listed the same instead of some at xxs, some at xs, some at A, others 1. In sewing patterns you know there are so many things that will be similar from designer to designer because of industry standards yet with so many professional and independent one off knitwear designers you can get anything and until you actually pay for the patterns you don't know if it will work necessarily for your needs, shape, yarn, skills, etc. As a newish knitter I've not liked this so much personally. Some designers assume you know how to do something and just say do it, others list exactly what and how to do everything. Again won't know until you purchase! Some do stitch counts and measurements, some do it by rows/rounds, I wish there was some kind of continuity in the slightest or at the least an industry standard of info all patterns must have maybe. I don't know what the answer is but I do think it's a little nuts how wildly difference each pattern can be and I can't decide if it will work unless I purchase it. I can't do that, but I haven't knitted enough to know Who I should and shouldn't purchase.
I knitted the falling leaves beanie from Marly Bird and I’m working on Night and Day cowl as Christmas presents. I’m planning on doing more beanie’s since mailing anything to Germany is quite expensive. I also made backpack for my sister. That one I combined knit, crochet and Tunisian crochet in one project. It turned out really nice. I hope she’ll like it.
The boucle sweater is just amazing. It looks so cozy and luxurious. I like the number sizing too. I really like just looking at the chest circumference and going from there. Sometimes I can get hung up on size and start to not be as kind to myself as I should be- the number helps to combat that. Your podcast was a great way to end my woolly Saturday- I went to New England Fiber Festival and had a blast. Happy knitting 💚🧶💚
Hand-knit socks truly make the best gift! I knit mine two at a time on two circular needles with an afterthought heel, and they’re off my needles within a week! Everyone I love gets a pair :)
Hi Nora! Always love your videos. Nearly everything I knit is gifted. Last year I made several pairs of fingerless gloves for Christmas gifts. This year, I’ve made two Turtle Dove shawls, a Musselburgh hat, and currently working on a pair of socks. I’m hoping to do some more fingerless gloves - those are easy and quick and mostly one size. I follow The Crazy Sock Lady, and she’s knitting bookmarks for gifts, which is also a great idea if you have several people you’re knitting for
I like the s,m,I sizing but only because I forget what number I picked when I'm knitting and I remember small easier. I made Ruke knits other version of the yoga sweater twice and I love it! She does like to add increases in the sleeves and I don't like how that looks, so be careful about that. I love your boucle sweater so much and that color is gorgeous!
I shop knitting patterns according to bust size, so it annoys me if it gives finished garment size without letting me know how much ease is intended or shown in the reference image 😂
I prefer numbers too.. Another thing I would like to always be included is how much positive/negative ease a garment is supposed to have. Regardless of my choice, by looking at the pictures and knowing how much positive/negative ease was used, I can make a more informed decision about which size I want to knit.
Numbers make way more sense to me as well! I'm making the calm down sweater by Lily Kate Makes for my dad right now and making a size 1, even though his chest circumference would suggest closer to a 3-4 with the recommended ease in pattern since he likes his sweaters to have neutral or just a little bit of positive ease, but not be oversized. If I made the same sweater for myself, I would also make a size 1, but that would give me 12 inches of positive ease. The size you pick has way more to do with intended fit than actual body size.
Hi. About sizing: I don’t have a preference, however it’s done is good for me. Regarding gift knitting I’m going to make a sock or two…. 🤎 your channel Nora 🤗
Love your channel and upbeat philosophy on all your knitting projects! My experience with superwash wool (before I knew better) was the same as you describe. There is something very unpleasant about the feel of the wool, and I always felt “clammy” (not warm & cozy) when wearing the finished item! Because of that - as well how it grows weirdly after blocking - I no longer knit with any superwash wool! I want to love my item while knitting as well as wearing it & superwash doesn’t do it for me! If I need a washable yarn, like for a baby item, I’ll use cotton, a wool cotton blend, or even wool/ acrylic.
I prefer the number sizing also! Mainly because within the pattern it’s a lot easier to remember the number when looking for that specific stitch/row count. If I’m making a medium, I can never remember if this pattern sizing starts with an XXS, XS, or S and then have to keep going to the beginning to find how far down the medium instructions fall.
That's such an interesting topic, sizing systems. I prefer numbers too, one reason is that internationally things like XL or 2XL can mean different things in ready to wear between countries, and also because there is a stigma with that sort of sizing (S, M, L etc) which for some of us can be distressing, or may even turn us off a pattern. I feel that sequential numbering is the most neutral system. There's also the type of fit, eg what kind of body shape a design is graded for - Andrea Gaughan talks a bit about that in her podcasts. Love your channel, it's a highlight of my week :)
I feel like I'm the only one not caring for bouclé... Anyway, I don't really care how the sizes are written, I just pick one for how I want the garment to fit. I don't remember in which vide I saw it, but the person said that really, in pretty much every pattern you could fit in 2 to 4 sizes depending on how you want to wear the garment. I agree.
Numbers definitely for the win! Really dislike the letter sizing as I find it so confusing. The S, M, L system is also confusing as, like you, I will end up 'counting' which size I fall into and would just simply have preferred a number.
I just downloaded the Robinia Mittens pattern from Anne Ventzel. Just love the fresh design of the colorwork. That will be my Xmas gift knitting pattern, and maybe a cardigan for myself later.
Yesterday it was holiday here in Italy and I was feeling like Saturday in advance but couldn't really enjoy it because I didn't have a new episode of your podcast. My double knitted button band on the Step-by-step cardigan by Florence im working in says hi!😂
Love the brown jersey. I reminds of of a top my daughter had when she was younger. Re sizing. Making my own clothes has helped me workout I have don't have an average sized body. On a typical jersey I knit one size for the yoke especially the depth and then the arms and the waist and hips a bigger size and the length of the body is typically longer than the size I am knitting for the body but the arms shorter. Having said that I like designers using numbers becuase then I can go 3 for the top and 4 of the bottom and arms.
I am a busty gal and the s-m-l sizing gets complicated for me. I need extra x’s and never sure how many to add. I like numbers or to a lesser degree, letters.
Very interesting on size choices! Yes you are right…. We get attached to an L or XL and don't look at anything else! I am now getting used to the numbers surprisingly a lot…. And usually start off with a 4 then go up to a 5. But of course even knitting designers do not have standard measurements in their numbers 🤷♀️
Hi 🫶🏻 you can order on their website but they are quite a small European company and still expanding to the US I think. Shipping will be more expensive but honestly the yarn is such a dream!
I don’t tend to have a preference actually! I just find the size that corresponds to the measurement I want and highlight those specific stitch counts before I start knitting. For gift knits, I really like doing the Travelling Cables Hat by Purl Soho - it’s a free cabled hat pattern in worsted/aran and looks really nice. Another one that was good was the Frida headband by Emilie Luis, another free pattern. For a women’s sweater, I would highly recommend the Beauty School by the Poison Grrls. It’s a fitted set-in sleeve sweater in fingering weight and it works really nicely for people with larger busts compared to their waists. I’m knitting the 4th size with long sleeves and am managing to get away with only 3 skeins! This is also my 4th time knitting this sweater
Bravo on the cable corrections! My first ever knit was allover texture and I definitely missed a couple of cable crosses, but as a total newbie I had no idea of how to fix it. It turns out Roxanne Richardson has a video showing duplicate stitch cable corrections, but in the end I don't mind the little errors in my sweater.
That sweater you’re wearing 🤩 I’ll be in line waiting for the pattern to release! I’m always looking for “elevated casual” pieces as I call them and this totally fits the bill
I don't really care how the sizes are labeled, but if I had to choose just one I'd be a numbers girl. Love the Yoga Winter Sweater - it's in my Ravelry favorites also!
Colours are hardly ever what I expected. I bought a West Yorkshire Spinners' Exquisite in the colour Knightsbridge. In the shop I thought it was almost white with a blue tone. Well at home it is light blue 😅
I agree with the number system for sizing. I agree that everything fits differently on different body types, and the numbering system just seems to take any stigma about a certain size out of the equation. I'm praying you get your sister's cardigan done in time for her concert. I am certainly NOT A SWIFTIE, but I do understand how important this type of thing can be, so I'm hoping you get it all done in time!❤🧶 p.s. Your artemisia is beautiful! Fabulous job! I would say that it was perfect for a test knit (free pattern and 50% off main color yarn) but would be fairly cost prohibitive otherwise.
Wonderful episode! I love that you are stepping gently (lol) into designing. I prefer number sizing (1-9 for example) to all other forms. Happy November! 🍂🌞
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I’m a numbers girl too. I really don’t care for the SML size range on patterns. I find the number listing is (for lack of a better word) less triggering. It is also easier to follow in the pattern. Please keep us apprised on the release of this pattern. Love it. You did a great job.
Definitely a numbers girl-a size medium doesn’t tell me anything anymore these days😂 Your boucle sweater came out perfect!!!
Thank you!!!
I'm numbers and letters girl! I prefer number slightly more, but I don't like standard sizes. For one, it doesn't say anything to me if something is M or L, and I would still need to check the size range to figure out my size later in the pattern as some designers start with XS, some with XXS and some with S, so when I decide on a size I still go back to check from what size I need to count. For letters and nubers they're always starting with A or 1.
I love the new intro! I prefer the number sizes because when I’m following a pattern it’s so much easier to make sure I have correct stitch count throughout. Some letter patterns begin with xs some start at xxs. Number patterns always start with “1”
Thank you for this very entertaining (as always 🙂) podcast episode. Regarding your question about the names for sizes: I always look at the chest measurement given and then choose the size; I don't really care what it's called.
Combination knitting (twisting the purl stitch then fixing it by knitting through the back loop on the next row) is my favorite discovery of the last few months! It's how I do all my ribbing and purling when I knit flat.
Such a simple step that makes a huge difference!!
I love your discovery , and your comment made me think - would the opposite hold true?? I find knitting through the back loop so much easier than purling through the back loop. Could one purl normally and then knit through the back loop to achieve the same thing?
Same! It gives me a good rhythm!
I don't really look at what a pattern calls the sizes, but my focus is what ease I want and what the finished bust measurement is. And then I go from there! :) so not really any preferance.
If you go to the pattern page for your Yoga winter sweater on Ravelry, you can click ‘add to library’ top right, and even though you didn’t buy it through ravelry, it will show up in your library. xx
I like the numbers for sizing. I look up my bust then go with that number size and highlight throughout the pattern. I also feel society has made a stigma of size letters. People don’t want to hear they are 5XL. Things are slowly changing and becoming size inclusive which is a huge step forward ❤️
I talked about this in a recent podcast I posted! I totally understand why people like numbered sizing, as a “smaller” person I know I don’t have the same stigma in my head attached to different sizes. It personally really helps me when making choices to have a “real world” reference. It may be because I’m narrow but tall so pattern sizing tends to recommend a smaller size for me than I need. I’ve been duped before into knitting the XS and it never ends well😂 because the sizes offered by designers varies the #1 could be the S or the XS or the XXS, and I never know if I’m gonna get got this time around lmao
It was you!!! I knew it was in regards to the Beatrix and I couldn’t place who it was!! I found your perspective to be so fascinating as someone who feels so opposite!! I could totally understand wanting that frame of reference if sizing across knitting patterns was more universal. I wish it was!! But for me, the numbers just remove any expectations from the equation and force me to measure myself and gauge lol. I always love to hear different perspectives on these things so thank you for bringing it up for conversation!!
@ haha I totally get it we all have a different thought process when it comes to these things!
Love the boucle sweater on you - your choice for the contrast yarn was spot on. Personally I like sizing by finished garment measurements (chest for sweaters) which gives me a real immediate sense of the amount of ease the garment will have at each size. As someone with a very small frame I’ve found it helpful to think about the recommended ease and sometimes scale it to get a more flattering garment.
Yes! Saturday morning! Coffee and Nora Knits!! Had an ugly knit week, fail, fix, fail.. so happy to sit here and have a Nora moment!
I don’t care how the pattern sizes are designated. I know what size to make once I see the finished bust size and intended ease. More important are the brackets so it’s easy to find my numbers throughout. I highlight all of them first step.
I am doing some gift knitting right now, mittens for my husband, a shawl for my sister-in-law, and another shawl for my mom🥰
Wake up babe! It's Saturday and another NoraKnits just dropped!
I check the bust size and the amount of ease! Then determine the size I want to make. Some pattern have 10-15" of ease. I may not want that much. Also check your gauge swatch.
Sometimes, it still doesn't turn out right but the important thing is keep checking the width/ length and be sure it's okay. I've seen people show their top that is obviously too big/small but they kept knitting... Why waste that much time and effort? Measure while you are knitting (or crocheting). Don't think its magically going to be the correct size when you sew it together.
Love your cozy brown sweater. 💜
Hope more videos like this from you. Your every video is creativity and inspiring. Your presentation quality is amazing. I appreciate you.
Thank you so much!
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Hi Nora & Osi,
I put this comment here because it is the most recent. I just found you after another video I watched mentioned you. I love your videos and your rants because I do the same. I am also a life long crocheter and have finally decided to start knitting. I used to knit but hated it because it was so slow. This time I looked into different styles of knitting and settled on the Norwegian style and when hands bother me I will use the Portuguese style because it is so ergonomic. The way you knit is the English style. I was having so much trouble with my hands crocheting, knitting has helped this so much!
I really relate to your little rants especially being at the yarn store. I have been in the yarn store sweating because I am overwhelmed and can’t decide. I really love you sense of adventure and courage.
I have a few things that may help you in the long run:
1. The only company that makes smaller than 3mm interchangeable needles is Knit Picks and they are interchangeable with all the items you have except the Chiaogoo. They are called Refections Options Interchangeable Lace/Sock Needle Tips. They are available in a set @ $65.99, they are having a 30% off sale right now. The mindful collection are stainless steel so they do not have the nickel coating and are much pointier because they are lace needles. These are my favourite.
2. The Messi dress, when you are machine sewing try using a double needle. You can have the 2 colours, one on either side and the it zigzags in the back.
For any fabric that you are having trouble with the glide on your sewing machine you can use tissue paper on the bottom and then you can just rip it away. If any little pieces are left behind you can just use a tweezers, most wash away when blocking. For thin fabrics you can use a piece on top and one on the bottom. Any tissue paper will do. I just get mine from a dollar store.
I hope all this helps you in your journey! Lots of love💕💕💕
I like making fingerless mitts for gifts. If you use worsted weight yarn, they go super fast. There are many free patterns on Ravelry. I knit 4 hats completely from stash scraps this month to send to flood victims in NC.
Hi Nora, I am English and have always been used to patterns listing chest sizes in inches with the finished size listed underneath, so I always know how much ease the designer has added.
Your boucle sweater came out beautifully! ❤ I prefer numbers for sizes in patterns, easier to keep track when working through the patterns.
PS .. Love that boucle sweater -gorgeous!!
I love the numbers system, too, for the same reasons that you mentioned! I think people's overreliance on the S/M/L scheme is what creates most fit-related issues. I always see people saying "this sweater is too oversized" because they picked their normal department store size instead of reading the measurements + the designer's recommended amount of ease. If the sizes were 1/2/3, you'd have the think a little harder about what size you wanted and would help you make more informed fit decisions! But I guess some people love the struggle, haha.
Oh, Nora. I usually listen to you on Saturday mornings. But I am so enjoying your video with a glass of wine after a cross country flight. You are such a chill chica!!!❤❤
The boucle sweater is to die for! The color and style look great on you and youll get a lot of wear out of it. Good luck with all your projects. The new intro and graphics are dynamite!
Thank you thank you!! I’ve been living in it!! Thank you so much 🥰
Sizing is so ambiguous and when you read the details and talk about the amount of ease 2”, 10” 😵💫. Easily identify what you want when buying from a store but when knitting better to go by the schematic. Thank you Nora for your wonderful podcast.
I like when they put the finished bust measurement…. So if I want a finished measurement of 44 I follow that one… but in the end I just like that they group them in a way that it’s easy to circle the size you are making, either with colors or using parentheses to break them apart and make it easier to count them out. And ❤I also decide the ease I want for the garment and make that size
With knitting patterns, I find out how much ease the designer intended and look at the different bust measurements. It does not matter to me if it’s numbers, letters, or more traditional xs, s, etc. I go more by ease. Also as a side note, I just taught myself how to reverse knit back across the row so I don’t have to purl when knitting flat. It is a good dexterity and brain exercise.
So true!! I do always value when designers share their size vs. measurements as well as intended ease, etc. I have heard of a few people doing that reverse knitting!! I’d love to try it sometime! Seems like a fun challenge!
I prefer to just have the bust measurement be the sizing. Upper bust measurement is my preferred, but it seems rare to find that.
Nora, your yarn choice for the ribbing on the bouclé sweater is lovely. I have knitted the Mickan jacket by Meiju Knits (on Ravelry) and she has designed it with a similar idea as yours. The size looks perfect for you. This is much more usable because you can wear it under a coat. About how the different ways to mark sizes I prefer just 1, 2, 3... Sizes differ in Europe and the US, and even within Europe. We must remember to always check the size. On Ravelry my sizes go from L to 3XL because I have large lady lumps! And I am short, so I always have to modify the length of the body and sleeves.
For sizing, I don’t mind any of the options since I pick size based on ease and bust measurement anyway. I do think sometimes I find SML sizing annoying while looking for patterns though because there is no standard measurements for those, I find people will slap a 2XL label on something that would never be a 2XL in a store just to seem more size inclusive. I think it’s harder to do that with number or letter sizing.
Number sizes all the way! It feels less stigmatizing!
I prefer the numbered sizes because they’re easier to count like you described, but also because there is no implied judgement of being extra anything.
I have found that not only does an XL differ from store to store, but it differs from designer to designer. So it does not matter how the sizes are given in a pattern, as long as I can reconcile it to the measurements I need. I am a XL and I have knitted everything from a Smedium to 3XL in sweater sizes.
I don't care about SML vs numbers because the only thing they tell me is how many sizes are available. The sizing in the US is so random and one brand's L is another brand's M. Only the measurement information counts for me - what's the finished measurement and ease the designer intended. One of the websites I buy clothing from lists measurements for ALL garments in a details section, so I always go straight to those. And to choose the size I want for a sweater pattern, I measured my favorite sweater and matched those measurements.
Love this episode! The sweater FO looks amazing, and your new WIPs are so exciting. Can’t wait to see them grow! 🧶✨
Hi Nora! I'm in loooove with your Artemisia Sweater 😍😍😍 looks amazing!
I actually hadn't thought about which version of sizing I like best, but I tend to do the counting method as well when I'm going through a pattern and highlighting....so I guess the number sizing is way easier. ❤️
Boucle sweater is soooooo awesome. Another add on to my ever extending must do knits
Love the fall decorations plus Osi as a turkey❤️❤️❣️🦃
Such beautiful knits! You really convinced me that the Artemesia sweater is something I need. ❤ it is nice to hear you talk about fashion details. And I love the color of gray for your sister’s cardigan. I hope she loves it and brags about her knitting sister. 😅
Love that Artemisia sweater! I think I’m going to have to add it to my ever growing to be knit list. 😅
When I first started knitting (and crocheting) almost all my projects had some sort of fun texture to the yarn. Maybe not ideal yarn to learn on as a beginner but the fun texture to the yarns kept me wanting to work on my projects. Now I’ve been using smooth yarns for so long I kind of forgot how much I love knitting with textures, like a bouclé yarn. Thanks for reminding me of something I forgot and giving me an idea for a future project. 🙂
I prefer number sizing because when I'm finding my instructions in the pattern I count to the proper size. I would never remember which patterns start with a S, XS, XXS.
And now I see you said the same thing 🤣
I also prefer the number sizing. Because then it's easier to count! And I have an attachment to the letter sizing, being that I was a small through most of my 20s and now I'm needing to embrace mediums and larges across the board in my 30s. I'd rather my knitting just focus on the numbers rather than any associations I have to lettered sizing.
Hi Nora, I prefer numbers, I have to number the letters or sizes so that I can keep counting them as I follow instructions. Oh, watching you and you just explained my reasoning perfectly! Numbers are the simplest way to go.
The boucle sweater is so good! I’m so happy that you didn’t settle for the other colour of yarn for the cuffs/collar/hem. This version looks so high end!
I love your pattern choices. You really have a knack for finding styles that trend traditional, but with a little something extra. And... frequently not mainstream designers. It's great! 🙂
Thank you for noticing!!! 🥰
I love this podcast. A chocolate dipped strawberry. You got me with that one. :)
I count sizes the way you do and even include a note for that size since I generally don't print patterns (maybe bc I do a lot of test knits and there's usually at least some minor changes to be made) the other thing is 1 is always the start of numbers of I didn't have my number note I feel like I would be going back to the sizing section to see does it start with small? Xs? Xxs? They never seem to be the same
Had me at the intro… chocolate covered strawberry AND pretty new intro background 😍
I 100% agree with you on all accounts as far as the pattern sizing goes. I have actually avoided knitting a pattern before because the size I would have ended up knitting was correlated with a "size" I had in my head I wasn't comfortable with. Silly? yes. Still happened in my brain? Also yes. I would prefer the 1 (2) 3, etc for the exact reason you mentioned (ease of highlighting).
Thank you for your upbeat knit channel. You are the first channel I watch on Sunday morning. You always help me to start the last day of the weekend positively. I always look forward to your updates.
Thank you so so much 🥰
I far prefer the either numbers or letters - I feel like it's easier for me to remember as I will find it harder to keep track of which size I am in a S,M,L etc pattern.
Also I agree about the emotional attachment to being told I am a several XL size when usually in the UK I am only ever buying sizes in numbers unless they are unisex t shirts.
I am definitely in the numbered sizes camp. I’ll watch the comments with interest.
I can't wait to see your very own pattern for a sweater on Ravelry someday. I bet it will be sooner than later based on your production level and knitting gumption. I'm still so impressed with your skills . Your nails look so much like your yarn color choices. So good. Thank you for sharing all of your knowledge. Oh, I like sizes in either letters or numbers. The old school in me is used to the letters but I definitely think the number sizes do a huge service to any human who doesn't like to put themselves in a traditional size box.
I prefer the number sizing for the reason you stated, but ideally, they’d just use the finished garment chest measurement as the sizing (e.g. for inches it would be something like 34, 37, 40, etc) that way I wouldn’t have to scroll down and figure out which size number corresponds to the end size I’m trying to knit 😎
I like numbers and letters sooooo much more because I can actually be objective in planning my knits. I’ve knit most of my knits from patterns in S/M/L a size small because of personal reasons of always wanting to be a medium when usually I’m a large. Fun mental block, but it’s there, and letters and numbers take that internal stigma out of my head!
Hi Nora, in regards to your question about what sizing directions we prefer…I really prefer s,m,l etc. 😊
My favorite is when they just name it after the finished bust circumference.
My pet peeve is when the finished bust circumference isn’t included at all and they only give you sizes based on what your bust is. I have narrower shoulders, a short torso, and a big bust and often can’t have the amount of positive ease the pattern calls for without armholes being too big.
I prefer numbered sizing as well. Like you, I go through the pattern and highlight the numbers I need to pay attention to so I’m counting the sizes anyway and using that to find all the datapoints I need to highlight. The name is pointless to me because I also don’t find that I’m not consistently the same from designer to designer so rather than refer to what is generally meant to be a “standard” name, I’d rather focus on the designer’s size number (letter is fine too but a number just makes more sense).
I totally agree with you on sizing! Numbers are so much easier to remember throughout the pattern and make more sense.
This is my first time watching your podcast and I really appreciate it!
And I particularly like the price details at the ends of the projects. Thats really an important aspect that are usually left out of the other podcast.
I completely agree that numbered pattern sizing (1, 2, 3, 4) works better for me, for pretty much the same reasons as you, Nora. While I generally knit sizes 3 or 4 (or a modified combination of the two), it all comes down to the style and construction of the garment, the schematic measurements, recommended ease vs preferred ease, and the fabric density I want to achieve. Because I hate yarn chicken, and usually make modifications, I almost always purchase the yarn requirements for the size above the size I plan to knit the majority of the garment in. I do love me a good schematic and lots of sample knits to refer too. Most of the time I find a favourite project version of the pattern I wish to emulate. It’s rarely the sample photo. Your Frank Ocre Ranunculus is a great example of this. I have already purchased the yarn and plan to replicate your ease and gauge by our Summer Christmas. I think it will be indispensable on cooler summer evenings and in the transitional seasons.
Nora - right now on Ravelry’s front page is information on how you can add a non-Ravelry purchased pattern to your Ravelry library. I like having all of mine in one place so this is very handy.
Greatest thing I’ve learned recently!!! Thank you for sharing!!
I do wish there was a standard for knitting patterns somehow... Sizes listed the same instead of some at xxs, some at xs, some at A, others 1. In sewing patterns you know there are so many things that will be similar from designer to designer because of industry standards yet with so many professional and independent one off knitwear designers you can get anything and until you actually pay for the patterns you don't know if it will work necessarily for your needs, shape, yarn, skills, etc. As a newish knitter I've not liked this so much personally. Some designers assume you know how to do something and just say do it, others list exactly what and how to do everything. Again won't know until you purchase! Some do stitch counts and measurements, some do it by rows/rounds, I wish there was some kind of continuity in the slightest or at the least an industry standard of info all patterns must have maybe. I don't know what the answer is but I do think it's a little nuts how wildly difference each pattern can be and I can't decide if it will work unless I purchase it. I can't do that, but I haven't knitted enough to know Who I should and shouldn't purchase.
I always look at dimensions plus ease and decide if I want more or less ease, then choose size appropriately.
I knitted the falling leaves beanie from Marly Bird and I’m working on Night and Day cowl as Christmas presents. I’m planning on doing more beanie’s since mailing anything to Germany is quite expensive. I also made backpack for my sister. That one I combined knit, crochet and Tunisian crochet in one project. It turned out really nice. I hope she’ll like it.
The boucle sweater is just amazing. It looks so cozy and luxurious. I like the number sizing too. I really like just looking at the chest circumference and going from there. Sometimes I can get hung up on size and start to not be as kind to myself as I should be- the number helps to combat that. Your podcast was a great way to end my woolly Saturday- I went to New England Fiber Festival and had a blast. Happy knitting 💚🧶💚
Hand-knit socks truly make the best gift! I knit mine two at a time on two circular needles with an afterthought heel, and they’re off my needles within a week! Everyone I love gets a pair :)
Hi Nora! Always love your videos. Nearly everything I knit is gifted. Last year I made several pairs of fingerless gloves for Christmas gifts. This year, I’ve made two Turtle Dove shawls, a Musselburgh hat, and currently working on a pair of socks. I’m hoping to do some more fingerless gloves - those are easy and quick and mostly one size. I follow The Crazy Sock Lady, and she’s knitting bookmarks for gifts, which is also a great idea if you have several people you’re knitting for
i agree with you about numbers definitely prefer patterns that show sizes im numbers.
I like the s,m,I sizing but only because I forget what number I picked when I'm knitting and I remember small easier. I made Ruke knits other version of the yoga sweater twice and I love it! She does like to add increases in the sleeves and I don't like how that looks, so be careful about that. I love your boucle sweater so much and that color is gorgeous!
Happy Saturday! Coming in late again because my job is trying to kill me! Now it’s time to relax with Nora!
Oh noo! I hope you get more downtime sooner than later 💛 thank you for joining me!!
I shop knitting patterns according to bust size, so it annoys me if it gives finished garment size without letting me know how much ease is intended or shown in the reference image 😂
Thank you Nora for another great podcast cast. Everything is looking good. See you mixture time.
Thank you for being here!! 🥰
I prefer numbers too.. Another thing I would like to always be included is how much positive/negative ease a garment is supposed to have. Regardless of my choice, by looking at the pictures and knowing how much positive/negative ease was used, I can make a more informed decision about which size I want to knit.
Numbers make way more sense to me as well! I'm making the calm down sweater by Lily Kate Makes for my dad right now and making a size 1, even though his chest circumference would suggest closer to a 3-4 with the recommended ease in pattern since he likes his sweaters to have neutral or just a little bit of positive ease, but not be oversized. If I made the same sweater for myself, I would also make a size 1, but that would give me 12 inches of positive ease. The size you pick has way more to do with intended fit than actual body size.
Hi. About sizing: I don’t have a preference, however it’s done is good for me. Regarding gift knitting I’m going to make a sock or two…. 🤎 your channel Nora 🤗
Love your channel and upbeat philosophy on all your knitting projects!
My experience with superwash wool (before I knew better) was the same as you describe. There is something very unpleasant about the feel of the wool, and I always felt “clammy” (not warm & cozy) when wearing the finished item! Because of that - as well how it grows weirdly after blocking - I no longer knit with any superwash wool! I want to love my item while knitting as well as wearing it & superwash doesn’t do it for me! If I need a washable yarn, like for a baby item, I’ll use cotton, a wool cotton blend, or even wool/ acrylic.
I prefer the number sizing also! Mainly because within the pattern it’s a lot easier to remember the number when looking for that specific stitch/row count. If I’m making a medium, I can never remember if this pattern sizing starts with an XXS, XS, or S and then have to keep going to the beginning to find how far down the medium instructions fall.
Great choice on the Poets Cardigan. ❤
That's such an interesting topic, sizing systems. I prefer numbers too, one reason is that internationally things like XL or 2XL can mean different things in ready to wear between countries, and also because there is a stigma with that sort of sizing (S, M, L etc) which for some of us can be distressing, or may even turn us off a pattern. I feel that sequential numbering is the most neutral system. There's also the type of fit, eg what kind of body shape a design is graded for - Andrea Gaughan talks a bit about that in her podcasts. Love your channel, it's a highlight of my week :)
The Char Char hat by whimsy north! I use the wool ease and can knit a hat in one movie!😂❤ they are perfect for teachers gifts!
I feel like I'm the only one not caring for bouclé...
Anyway, I don't really care how the sizes are written, I just pick one for how I want the garment to fit. I don't remember in which vide I saw it, but the person said that really, in pretty much every pattern you could fit in 2 to 4 sizes depending on how you want to wear the garment. I agree.
Numbers definitely for the win! Really dislike the letter sizing as I find it so confusing. The S, M, L system is also confusing as, like you, I will end up 'counting' which size I fall into and would just simply have preferred a number.
I just downloaded the Robinia Mittens pattern from Anne Ventzel. Just love the fresh design of the colorwork. That will be my Xmas gift knitting pattern, and maybe a cardigan for myself later.
Yesterday it was holiday here in Italy and I was feeling like Saturday in advance but couldn't really enjoy it because I didn't have a new episode of your podcast.
My double knitted button band on the Step-by-step cardigan by Florence im working in says hi!😂
Omg that is so funny! Well thank you 🥰 congratulations on your double knit button band!! Hahaa if only my sand cardigan could say hey back 😅
Love the brown jersey. I reminds of of a top my daughter had when she was younger. Re sizing. Making my own clothes has helped me workout I have don't have an average sized body. On a typical jersey I knit one size for the yoke especially the depth and then the arms and the waist and hips a bigger size and the length of the body is typically longer than the size I am knitting for the body but the arms shorter. Having said that I like designers using numbers becuase then I can go 3 for the top and 4 of the bottom and arms.
I am a busty gal and the s-m-l sizing gets complicated for me. I need extra x’s and never sure how many to add. I like numbers or to a lesser degree, letters.
Very interesting on size choices! Yes you are right…. We get attached to an L or XL and don't look at anything else! I am now getting used to the numbers surprisingly a lot…. And usually start off with a 4 then go up to a 5. But of course even knitting designers do not have standard measurements in their numbers 🤷♀️
Hi Nora, I looooove the Artemisia! Question: where did you buy the yarn? I am having trouble finding the Canard bouclé in the US. Thanks!!
Hi 🫶🏻 you can order on their website but they are quite a small European company and still expanding to the US I think. Shipping will be more expensive but honestly the yarn is such a dream!
@@emmasknits Thank you!
I don’t tend to have a preference actually! I just find the size that corresponds to the measurement I want and highlight those specific stitch counts before I start knitting. For gift knits, I really like doing the Travelling Cables Hat by Purl Soho - it’s a free cabled hat pattern in worsted/aran and looks really nice. Another one that was good was the Frida headband by Emilie Luis, another free pattern. For a women’s sweater, I would highly recommend the Beauty School by the Poison Grrls. It’s a fitted set-in sleeve sweater in fingering weight and it works really nicely for people with larger busts compared to their waists. I’m knitting the 4th size with long sleeves and am managing to get away with only 3 skeins! This is also my 4th time knitting this sweater
Bravo on the cable corrections! My first ever knit was allover texture and I definitely missed a couple of cable crosses, but as a total newbie I had no idea of how to fix it. It turns out Roxanne Richardson has a video showing duplicate stitch cable corrections, but in the end I don't mind the little errors in my sweater.
I prefer number sizes as well. I actually find them easier to read😊
I love what you are doing with the Poet's Cardigan!!! Would you consider sharing it as a pattern or tutorial? Love.your knitting podcast!!
i love the seasonal intro songs 😊
Thank you 🥰 welcome to cozy fall vibes
That sweater you’re wearing 🤩 I’ll be in line waiting for the pattern to release! I’m always looking for “elevated casual” pieces as I call them and this totally fits the bill
I don't really care how the sizes are labeled, but if I had to choose just one I'd be a numbers girl. Love the Yoga Winter Sweater - it's in my Ravelry favorites also!
Colours are hardly ever what I expected. I bought a West Yorkshire Spinners' Exquisite in the colour Knightsbridge. In the shop I thought it was almost white with a blue tone. Well at home it is light blue 😅
I agree with the number system for sizing. I agree that everything fits differently on different body types, and the numbering system just seems to take any stigma about a certain size out of the equation. I'm praying you get your sister's cardigan done in time for her concert. I am certainly NOT A SWIFTIE, but I do understand how important this type of thing can be, so I'm hoping you get it all done in time!❤🧶
p.s. Your artemisia is beautiful! Fabulous job! I would say that it was perfect for a test knit (free pattern and 50% off main color yarn) but would be fairly cost prohibitive otherwise.
Yes!!!!!!!! Nora Knits❤
Wonderful episode! I love that you are stepping gently (lol) into designing. I prefer number sizing (1-9 for example) to all other forms. Happy November! 🍂🌞