Thank you guys so much for watching! I love reading all your theories so definitely comment them if you haven't already :) We have come such a long with the girls' official debut! Just a note that this video came out before them so I may soon have a theory video for Hi High and some alterations of this timelime ;)
Erica T I wonder what you think of yyxy being one entity. It was in the description of one MV (forgot which). It could mean one person with multiple personalities/moods (like Olivia Hye is suddenly alone in love4eva). The girls change into each other in One. In other videos they can see each other and interact, but that may be in their head. Or maybe this one entity can have several avatars with their own personality. Joining together may be a metaphor for loving or accepting parts of yourself (anger being the hardest is the last to merge). What other superpowers do they have? Kim Lip has superfast running (maybe like the flash, also tied to timetravel), JinSoul can teleport. Or maybe they all can? Choerry travels between realms through mirrors. And maybe she can make copies of herself. Like the mirror copy that drops her the second cherry in LCM? Or is OEC timetraveling? Girl Front kinda hints Kim Lip (at the end) is also looking at herself (at the beginning) from another time (by rewinding the tape). 1/3 and yeojin seem to come from earth, but do they all come from the same time? You have links to the 80's, someone has an old early 2000's phone, some could be from the present day and vivi (as an android) could be from the far future. (magically transformed to a true girl after that, which might have messed up her memory?).
but why is no one talking about how haseul somehow had access to eden because she went and saved chuu? and she looked weirdly aware of the whole situation? like she knew chuu wasnt going to notice her?
I don't think it is Haseul that had access to Eden, but Chuu that has fallen into the earth after eating the apple & the strawberry in Heart Attack/leaving Eden in love4eva.
There's still a mystery around why Haseul was there, but if you read theories on Haseul being replaced by the "boy" version of her from Let Me In, it kinda makes sense that the one who woke up Chuu wasn't actually Haseul. Chuu couldn't even see Haseul. If Chuu had actually fell from Eden, she would be on Earth in the same 'plane' as Haseul.
Someone else has pointed this out too! That’s true, but I think we can make it work with the theory, saying she successfully managed to get some animals and not all of them ;)
Interesting but Olivia kills vivi (as seen from egoist video) putting her in the android form. So 1/3 has to happen after egoist because vivi is an android now. Jinsoul is connected to vivi and olivia as well. As she appears in both music videos. Olivia is thought to meet yeojin who is lost in the forest but this unconfirmed yet. This time line is good but needs to be tweaked and does help put things into perspective
I mentioned Jinsoul's appearances in both Vivi's and Olivia's M/Vs, she really has her ways around the LOONAVERSE! haha I've also seen the theory about Olivia killing Vivi and I think it's very plausible, the M/V is kinda vague about it. I can't wait till debut so we can (hopefully) finally understand everything :)
Eve J, I agree, like my previous comment, the M/V is really vague and doesn’t really support the idea of Jinsoul killing Vivi. However, we all know that Jinsoul is very important to the LOONAVERSE :)
Jinsoul committed a sin in her music video by “ swallowing the sun in the afternoon” meaning she was sent to yyxy universe and this also why cheorry can travel but u can look at my other comment to know how and I think the vivi was original from yyxy universe because that is where yves and Olivia is (fallen angles) if u know that theory but she travel to earth (1/3) universe but she did not have an odd eye or a fruit tho travel through both oce and yyxy universe to get to (1/3) mean that she was striped of her human qualities and made an Android because u require the odd eye to get to 1/3 and a fruit to get out of yyxy universe but jinsoul travel there (yyxy universe) because she committed a sin and then she gave the cherry your saw in Olivia the cheorry so she can travel there
Thisll be a big one -- warning --- very jumpy so first SCL had occurred. jinsoul with earphones puled out she had gained her odd eye, and when kim lip and choerry passes each other, kim lip realizes but choerry (who doesnt recognize) is on a car ride to 1/3 (where the beginning of LCM occurs) moving on, eclipse is about kim lip finding herself,without choerry, while jinsoul SITR is trying to solve problems (by this i mean that she had lost her fish at the end of her solo mv so she had realized she is incomplete) and then i think my melody occurred then love cherry motion (where choerry realizes her odd eye due to jinsoul placing the cherry) and then haseul solo. haseul (in her solo in the 1/3 world) is looking for someone {driving the car randomly} she had lost choerry (from love cherry motion) and had lost yeojin (which i believe attempted to follow choerry, explain later) haseul is sad trying to find the girls but during her solo in 1/3 world, girl front is occurring in the oec world. they are happy because they found their odd eyes and each other. loonatic also occurred afterwards/before (depending on the scenes) and a mysterious girl circles around them.[this seems far fetched but] the girl running around could be yeojin. yeojin followed choerry hoping to leave 1/3 but was not accepted. she thought that bringing in tapes would help her to somehow fit in (the tapes which she stole from vivi, yeojin was last seen from the 1/3 world in vivi solo mv); hyunjin look around in oec world, during girl front, for yeojin and finds nothing... and then yves (with the claw machine) found yeojin, taking her to eden and then took the tapes from her since it reminded her of vivi (her past love lets just say ;)) yeojin is in eden lost in the forest. [imma skip chuu love with yves cause thats obvi and gowon friendship with yves cause thats also the solos] they are still all stuck in eden. after seeing yves rebelling against eden, chuu and gowon follows but finds that olivia is all alone. therefore gowon and chuu makes a bracelet to send to hyunjin (which she recieves in her solo) hyunjin tells heejin who may have the ability to help her due to the fact that she had experienced a world without color (therefore vivid). heejin meets olivia in olivia's solo. just to explain 1/3 world, being one of the first heejin is lonely, seeing black until she found color in 1/3. she finds hyunjin (who had a connection to gowon which they send messages through cats) and they spend time together. haseul joins in my carol and together enjoying life (haseuls solo did not occur just yet). yeojin had joined too (kiss later meaning that she didn't accept life in 1/3 so shes accepting it later but ends up lost) and then vivi who had a love for yves but believed they could not be together since she was an android. this extra - vivi had introduced jinsoul, which is why she can go into 1/3 world and oec world. in vivi second solo feat jinsoul, that is the old jinsoul before finding her odd eye and true self. and then after SCL she found that she doesn't belong in 1/3 she belongs in oec. since she has the experience, she was able to go to 1/3 world to put the cherry on the cake to reel choerry (who belongs to oec) into the oec world. - jinsoul and olivia are friends, olivia helped jinsoul to realize her odd eye in SCL by taking out the ear phones and jinsoul helped olivia try to find her own self after being left behind in eden. sorry if its confusing, makes sense at my part if u read up to hear thank you.. fyi my mind is fried cause while typing this i recognize a different set of theories.
I think that Yves was the one running, not only because of the reasons in the video, but also because Chuu runs around Yves in Heart Attack. As we know, Chuu does whatever Yves does, so this could be a major clue
I love this theory. I first thought that heejins video was the start of the loonaverse (because its the first mv) but it still could be because the mobius strip doesn't really have an end? also I think kiss later takes place around my sunday (yeojin and haseul) because the frog is dressed in purple and could possibly represent choerry but that's a stretch(I heard it from another theory video.) overall I basically agree with all of it I think possibly egoist is slightly after love4eva because she is throwing away everything from eden but yeah you already said that. LOONA is still confusing as always but hopefully we will have more answers when the repackage comes out :) thanks for making this video! ps that timeline is really good I love that its colour coded uwu
Thank you so much! And yes, since it's a Mobius strip, Heejin technically could be the beginning haha. I wasn't sure where to put Yeojin but hopefully later on we'll get some more answers :))
Erica T this is my theory, idk if this make sense, but I think yeojin is somehow in a coma state bc she apparently got lost in the forest, and her mv is really dreamy, the frog and everything it looks like she's dreaming abt someone or something
That's a very good theory, but how would she had gotten in that coma state? Would it maybe have something to do with Yves because she pulled her frog from the "new" music video? Stretch I know, but now I'm curious lol.
6:12 Chuu also runs around Yves in Heart Attack. As we know, Chuu is obsessed with Yves and copies a lot of things that Yves does. Therefore, there is more proof that the girl was Yves.
- I think Choerry, who was the Earth born like 1/3, was brought to Eden when Yves sneaked to the earth (Choerry replaced Hyunjin in 1/3 Love & Live remix version in the Up & Line, and she in SCL was in the building Yves dances in new) and then Choerry eyes started to hurt because Hyunjin's Odd Eye color has been weakened (maybe she was trying to hide her power by staying in the room: Yellow is primary color and Hyunjin's clothes and environment in her MV was almost all yellow before she got the bracelet, which then mark that she was transported to Eden) - Choerry awakening when she is in Eden is why her Odd eye side and hair color reversed with those of KimLip and JinSoul, whose powers were awakened by the Earth's moons. (That building in SCL and the shot Choerry sits on the floor connects to the unreleased Up & Line videos where she met Yves for the first time, which take place in the tunnel Yves is seen walking in the end of new MV [after the shot of Choerry receiving an apple])
Interesting! I haven't seen many Up & Line videos because I don't support leaked content but I also want to watch everything TT. But this adds much more depth to this theory, thanks for sharing! :)
Your timeline makes me think Vivi was supposed to be an OEC member and Jinsoul actually took that possibility/power away from her! Vivi has an odd eye as hinted by Love&Live, so the pointing out of the Eclipse uniform really soldifies that theory
its no way she is olivia, look at her breast....the girl in loonatic is not as big as olivia (dont want to sound nasty or anything but just check it by urself)
Freddie I think it’s might be hyunjin because she a primary colour like jinsoul and Kim lip because I think that she was original of oce (the three primary colours) but something happened and she was no longer a oce member and duff happens look at my other comments to know and cheorry becomes a member of oce because of jinsoul and Kim lip
@N S they probably had a 12th girl, new mv description says "their last 4 member squad" or something like that, so im assuming they had a 12th girl but she left the company and then they debuted hyejoo. so there's a chance that the girl could be hyejoo in loonaverse, since they are different persons irl but probably are the same person in loonaverse.
I think vivid and around you is before i'll be there or my sunday because in around you original ver. hyunjin and heejin didn't know each other yet. Sorry for my english
No worries :) That is also a possibility, the LOONAVERSE is incredibly complex so all theories to explain it are welcome! I liked where I placed 2jin's solos because it connects them to the second universe idea I made
One more fact that suggests Yves is the girl running around the odd eye circle members was that in Chuu’s MV, she “copied” a lot of the things Yves has done, for instance, new choreography, dress code. In one specific shot, she was running around Yves much like how she was in the LOONATIC music video. Also when you mentioned that Choerry could jump universes, there’s another theory suggesting that there are 3 universes, or sometimes 4 if you count Yeojin being lost. But each universe has a specific “code” for you to be able to enter it. For “eden”, you need to have a fruit, for the odd eye circle world, you must have an odd eye, now for earth, I’m not too sure, but because eden is somewhat like heaven to earth, they may have been sent down to earth from eden. Anyways, some members are able to travel between universes, so far we know ViVi has an odd eye and she’s able to go to the middle world, and for Choerry, she has a fruit and that’s a cherry suggesting she can go to eden. In the teaser for YYXY, there is a place on the table and there is a cherry on there eluding to that Choerry is connected to yyxy especially during Gowon’s music video. In fact, the table from the teaser is from the video. Also, I believe Heejin is near the beginning, the lyrics in her solo sounds like her adding color to a blank canvas and she meets Olivia Hye because the Loonaverse is a loop and when she meets the end, she starts at the beginning.
I think that Heejins solo music video takes place all they way in the begin as it explains the loona verses vast colors and features yet to be discovered.
Details you didn’t mention: new takes place outside of Eden, so Yves gives the apple to Choerry in order to pass it on later to Go Won, leaving Olivia as the only Eden girl to have never eaten an apple. Favorite takes place after Heejin finds Olivia and brings all the girls together; and hi high is that happening. We see Choerry and Lip without Jinsoul because jinsoul was last seen with Olivia, Haseul and Yeojin are still together as they where last seen, Yves Chuu and Gowon are seen leaving a forest and find a pool, where OEC teleports Olivia to reunite with them. Vivi is seen running like in Love and live, meaning Love and Live may actually be the chronogically last 1/3 video (aka Sonatine actually comes before it) but as the video progresses they all get brought together, and favorite presumably happens after
I think that "Egoist" happens before "love4eva". In "love4eva", Hyejoo left alone in the Eden. And in "Egoist", she finally left Eden and met Heejin. She wouldn't met Heejin without leaving the school represented in "love4eva". Just my theory!
I think that Heejin takes place at the same time as Sweet Crazy Love because of the theory that Heejin created color in the Loonaverse, and halfway through the Sweet Crazy Love music video, there is color. :)
You probably already know this by now, and I've only seen 8mins so far... but Yves takes out an owl, not a penguin, which also still connects to her circling Odd Eye girls
I think Hyunjin is actually an OEC because of their colors ( Yellow,Red, Blue) but she doesnt want to anymore because of her friends in earth so She make her mirror self Choerry.
Wow! this is a very thorough and well thought out theory! I'll definitely have to adjust mine just because of yours. Amazing job! Also I am a new orbit, like only 3 weeks, but I absolutely love this lore and keep diving deeper and deeper, even though it leaves me with more questions than answers sometimes since the LOONAVERSE is so complex and everything is mainly theories. but that's what make sit so fun and absorbing
(I know this vid is before so what) I think so what occurs prior to butterfly in the timeline. In the so what mv there’s something flying upwards from the fire surrounding Olivia and at first I thought it was just debris but I looked close and I think they’re butterfly’s. Idk how this would exactly tie into the lore but it could represent them burning their old selves so they can be confident and fly like a butterfly or whatever
also something else I noticed relating to heejin and olivia meeting, their outfits at the end of egoist look very similar to the beginning of heart attack and how the girl wearing the black stockings (olivia in this case) looks over her shoulder at the girl wearing the white socks (heejin in this case) - I don’t really know how this connects but I found it interesting and fitting in the double timeline/universe theme
Omg this has to be my favorite theory video so far, everything makes so much sense! A total "aha moment" none of my teachers could ever get me to have lmfao.
also plums,cherries, and roses come from similar families. The cherry, plum and peach comes from the prunus family so if anyone has seen one of the members eat a peach pls tell me
I think kiss later comes right before let me in, in the video haseul is looking for yeojin. In the carol 1.0 you can see that haseul is waiting for someone and it’s looking at the clock to reach number 4 (yeojins number)
Jinsoul is important to why cheorry can travel between Universe’s because in singing in the rain she commits a sin of “swallowing the sun in the afternoon” and is now in yyxy universe in Olivia’s music video rapping and when she is u see a tin the the same word written on it with cherry’s in side and jinsoul using her odd eye travels to the original universe that cherry was in (1/3) (oce is in the middle of the universes and can they are the only ones that can travel with there odd eyes) in in the video announcing oce we see jinsoul up the cherry on top of the cake allowing her to travel to yyxy universe because u need a fruit like u see in the video and as I said jinsoul can travel there because she committed a sin but u never see Kim lip there because she is unable to because she does not have a fruit and did not commit a sin like jinsoul and the mirror that u see is so that cheorry reflection helps her find the other members the the rest of oce because they are searching for all the members like in oce girl front but yves comes in to this because she might has asked jinsoul when she was in there universe the help gather the members and get cheorry because she was not an original member of oce but they are the primary colour but something happened that I can remember lol and that’s all I can remember at the mind but there might be more later
At morning after watching all the loona videos...and reading some comments I came to know that LOONA has some kind of storyline, LOONA lore, LOONA VERSE, etc. Then I watched some more videos where they 'EXPLAIN' what these are...through them I got into string theory and mobius strip....so I watch some more videos on mobius strip and then some of string theory, which led me to higgs boson field...and rest mass... To neutron star and strange particle....and after some fucking more videos I am back to another (this video) watching LOONA VERSE but with different interpretations... Bruh...
I don't remember which one, especially being that there are 375 loona tv vids. But its which ever videos surrounding the making of the girl front MV. I'm gonna try to find the exact clip, but give me a while lol
I actually think Heejin's outfit in is more similar to the 'teacher' in the house of eden and supports a theory I read that heejin is the loonaverse's version of god and actually created eden, i forget the evidence but someone also told me that maybe she was 'redeemed' by one of the other girls and her meeting olivia on top of the rooftop in a light colored outfit is her apologizing to olivia for keeping her in eden for so long.... i don't know, those are just some snippets i've seen around
Which doesn't make sense if it's Olivia, right? In Girl Front, the mystery girl runs around them with a cassette tape, and OEC look at her in confusion/annoyance (seen in LOONATIC). In complete contrast, Hi High shows that Olivia is approached by a very pleased OEC who are completely in control of the scene, and there is no cassette tape to be scene. Rather, Yves seems to be pulling the strings in the background, as she's waiting for Olivia when she's teleported. Either way, it's definitely one of the yyxy girls.
OKAY SOO..... I have a theory on So What: The song and music video shows the 'back of the moon'. We know that we have never scientifically seen the back of the moon or the 'dark side of the moon'. What if, the front of the moon is LOONA's story, with all the realms, hi high and butterfly. Hi high is about how the girls unite as one and is a relatively happy story. But, what if the back side of the moon is their true story. Olivia Hye is seen with the fire and the feather on fire at the end, what if the feather represents Yves' swan and Olivia Hye wants revenge on Yves for leaving her in Eden. What if we are going to see their true story. Or..... my second theory is that we are going to see the hidden parts of their story that were never told (we've never seen the back of the moon) and aren't supposed to be. But the girls don't care since it's their true story (So What). And that these parts have some dark elements (I'm so bad) This leads me to believe that their next comeback will either have a dark concept showing this straightforward... or it will be lighter and less straightforward and more complex (like they might still try to hide their true story) Or.... my third theory is that this is just a massive middle finger to Jaden Jeong for burning the loonaverse and that they are going to create their own new world with all 12 of them including us though. This could be because in the teaser, heejin is 'flying' and waking on air so she might be trying to reach us... or get away from LOONA... I also think that Love And Live is the story that we see.... But Love and Evil is part of the untold story.... And Choerry can go back and forth between universes because she is the only one with the odd eye on her right eye...
5:12 I know I'm very late but I actually think that's Choerry herself, not Hyunjin, she's wearing the same clothes and also at the end of the mv Choerry throws the map which is folded like a paper plane and lands on her back, like it went back to her so it could be same with the mirror thingy
Hello! I really enjoyed your theory;;;; I wanted to ask for your permission to translate it to spanish and making a video about it! Obviously I'd credit you in the video. Thank you beforehand!
That’s why Olivia is left out . Also Jinsoul and Olivia interact . Vivi is actually dead that’s why she’s an Android because Jinsoul killed her for Olivia . Jinsoul awoken Choerrys powers and used her to experiment with cherries . In the garden of eden fruit is forbidden , in order to leave eden and escape before Olivia kills them . In Chinese under Jinsoul the word fallen angel is written in Chinese . Remember I said Vivi is dead . Vivi is viewed as pure like and angel .
Mystery. I have a theory that Haseul has sheltered Yeojin in the forest (she wasn't actually lost...) due to a fear of losing Yeojin. My Melody, LCM, and Hi High ALL support this since she's alone with Haseul in all three. Yeojin was super young and oblivious to this, so her solo song is about her not wanting to kiss a boy now. This contrast to the other MVs is intentional: others are singing of internal conflict (Haseul), awakening (Kim Lip) and self-acceptance (Jinsoul/Go Won). Chuu and Yeojin sing about their love for others, or their perspectives on feelings. What I'm getting at, is that Yeojin has not had her awakening yet. She will, though.
not to answer for the creator, but The Garden of Eden is ofc a bible reference, it is supposed to be a paradise. BBC have mentioned that the girls deny eden to love themselves as eden is not the paradise they thought. as we see the girls leaving the house in love4eva its sort of confirmed that the house was Eden xx hope that kinda helped a little bit :)
Hey great video but you mispronounce a few of the member's names. Choerry is pronounced like "cherry" since the "Cho" is from her last name Choi which is pronounced "chey". Another is Yves. It is pronounced like the name is supposed to be pronounced in French, which is "Eve". And lastly, Olivia Hye. it is also not said how it looks. Hye is pronounced "hey" as it is from Olivia's real name, Hyejoo. (also, vivi but i just say it like bibi. that's just my opinion though, not fact) Thank you for your theory and I hope this doesn't come off as rude :/
I feel like there's a lot of confusion over how to pronounce some of the members' names. Choerry in Korean is written as 최리. Yes, you're correct about it coming from her last name Choi (최), but Choi in Korean can actually sound similar to the English "chwe". Hence, why I read her name like that. In my video, I pronounced Yves as "Eve" since in Korean it's written as 이브, and the 'b' sound is equivalent to the 'v' sound. Technically, it would be more like 'ee-buh' but I think the intended pronounciation for English is 'Eve.' That also means that while Vivi in Korean is written as 비비, it can be pronouced 'bibi' or Vivi. You are correct about Olivia Hye's name. I had assumed since it was written as "혜", the 'y' sound would be said but that's not the case with the 'ㅎ' consonant. It's not rude, appreciate the correction :)
Thank you guys so much for watching! I love reading all your theories so definitely comment them if you haven't already :)
We have come such a long with the girls' official debut! Just a note that this video came out before them so I may soon have a theory video for Hi High and some alterations of this timelime ;)
Erica T
I wonder what you think of yyxy being one entity. It was in the description of one MV (forgot which). It could mean one person with multiple personalities/moods (like Olivia Hye is suddenly alone in love4eva). The girls change into each other in One. In other videos they can see each other and interact, but that may be in their head. Or maybe this one entity can have several avatars with their own personality. Joining together may be a metaphor for loving or accepting parts of yourself (anger being the hardest is the last to merge).
What other superpowers do they have? Kim Lip has superfast running (maybe like the flash, also tied to timetravel), JinSoul can teleport. Or maybe they all can? Choerry travels between realms through mirrors.
And maybe she can make copies of herself. Like the mirror copy that drops her the second cherry in LCM? Or is OEC timetraveling? Girl Front kinda hints Kim Lip (at the end) is also looking at herself (at the beginning) from another time (by rewinding the tape).
1/3 and yeojin seem to come from earth, but do they all come from the same time? You have links to the 80's, someone has an old early 2000's phone, some could be from the present day and vivi (as an android) could be from the far future. (magically transformed to a true girl after that, which might have messed up her memory?).
I am a new LoonA stan but
MY HEAD IS EXPLODING INTO PIECES
SAME ITS BEEN 2 YEARS JAJAJA
I know!! I'm a new LOONA fan and am just trying to figure things out. I'm very confused so far 😂
but why is no one talking about how haseul somehow had access to eden because she went and saved chuu? and she looked weirdly aware of the whole situation? like she knew chuu wasnt going to notice her?
I don't think it is Haseul that had access to Eden, but Chuu that has fallen into the earth after eating the apple & the strawberry in Heart Attack/leaving Eden in love4eva.
There's still a mystery around why Haseul was there, but if you read theories on Haseul being replaced by the "boy" version of her from Let Me In, it kinda makes sense that the one who woke up Chuu wasn't actually Haseul.
Chuu couldn't even see Haseul. If Chuu had actually fell from Eden, she would be on Earth in the same 'plane' as Haseul.
chuu had already fallen from eden when she met haseul. haseul was introducing her to earth
My mind is going crazy right now I have so many questions about loona
Haha welcome to the LOONAVERSE!
loona is my fave anime
i have a theory 4:34 haseul is really pretty and i love her omg
could not agree more!! she's such an underrated beauty
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yves picks owl - kim lip's animal. penguin is black one and has a cute little hat and in the back of claw machine
Someone else has pointed this out too! That’s true, but I think we can make it work with the theory, saying she successfully managed to get some animals and not all of them ;)
Interesting but Olivia kills vivi (as seen from egoist video) putting her in the android form. So 1/3 has to happen after egoist because vivi is an android now.
Jinsoul is connected to vivi and olivia as well. As she appears in both music videos.
Olivia is thought to meet yeojin who is lost in the forest but this unconfirmed yet.
This time line is good but needs to be tweaked and does help put things into perspective
I mentioned Jinsoul's appearances in both Vivi's and Olivia's M/Vs, she really has her ways around the LOONAVERSE! haha
I've also seen the theory about Olivia killing Vivi and I think it's very plausible, the M/V is kinda vague about it.
I can't wait till debut so we can (hopefully) finally understand everything :)
Eve J, I agree, like my previous comment, the M/V is really vague and doesn’t really support the idea of Jinsoul killing Vivi. However, we all know that Jinsoul is very important to the LOONAVERSE :)
Jinsoul committed a sin in her music video by “ swallowing the sun in the afternoon” meaning she was sent to yyxy universe and this also why cheorry can travel but u can look at my other comment to know how and I think the vivi was original from yyxy universe because that is where yves and Olivia is (fallen angles) if u know that theory but she travel to earth (1/3) universe but she did not have an odd eye or a fruit tho travel through both oce and yyxy universe to get to (1/3) mean that she was striped of her human qualities and made an Android because u require the odd eye to get to 1/3 and a fruit to get out of yyxy universe but jinsoul travel there (yyxy universe) because she committed a sin and then she gave the cherry your saw in Olivia the cheorry so she can travel there
Thisll be a big one -- warning --- very jumpy
so first SCL had occurred. jinsoul with earphones puled out she had gained her odd eye, and when kim lip and choerry passes each other, kim lip realizes but choerry (who doesnt recognize) is on a car ride to 1/3 (where the beginning of LCM occurs) moving on, eclipse is about kim lip finding herself,without choerry, while jinsoul SITR is trying to solve problems (by this i mean that she had lost her fish at the end of her solo mv so she had realized she is incomplete) and then i think my melody occurred then love cherry motion (where choerry realizes her odd eye due to jinsoul placing the cherry) and then haseul solo. haseul (in her solo in the 1/3 world) is looking for someone {driving the car randomly} she had lost choerry (from love cherry motion) and had lost yeojin (which i believe attempted to follow choerry, explain later) haseul is sad trying to find the girls but during her solo in 1/3 world, girl front is occurring in the oec world. they are happy because they found their odd eyes and each other. loonatic also occurred afterwards/before (depending on the scenes) and a mysterious girl circles around them.[this seems far fetched but] the girl running around could be yeojin. yeojin followed choerry hoping to leave 1/3 but was not accepted. she thought that bringing in tapes would help her to somehow fit in (the tapes which she stole from vivi, yeojin was last seen from the 1/3 world in vivi solo mv); hyunjin look around in oec world, during girl front, for yeojin and finds nothing... and then yves (with the claw machine) found yeojin, taking her to eden and then took the tapes from her since it reminded her of vivi (her past love lets just say ;)) yeojin is in eden lost in the forest. [imma skip chuu love with yves cause thats obvi and gowon friendship with yves cause thats also the solos] they are still all stuck in eden. after seeing yves rebelling against eden, chuu and gowon follows but finds that olivia is all alone. therefore gowon and chuu makes a bracelet to send to hyunjin (which she recieves in her solo) hyunjin tells heejin who may have the ability to help her due to the fact that she had experienced a world without color (therefore vivid). heejin meets olivia in olivia's solo.
just to explain 1/3 world, being one of the first heejin is lonely, seeing black until she found color in 1/3. she finds hyunjin (who had a connection to gowon which they send messages through cats) and they spend time together. haseul joins in my carol and together enjoying life (haseuls solo did not occur just yet). yeojin had joined too (kiss later meaning that she didn't accept life in 1/3 so shes accepting it later but ends up lost) and then vivi who had a love for yves but believed they could not be together since she was an android.
this extra - vivi had introduced jinsoul, which is why she can go into 1/3 world and oec world. in vivi second solo feat jinsoul, that is the old jinsoul before finding her odd eye and true self. and then after SCL she found that she doesn't belong in 1/3 she belongs in oec. since she has the experience, she was able to go to 1/3 world to put the cherry on the cake to reel choerry (who belongs to oec) into the oec world.
- jinsoul and olivia are friends, olivia helped jinsoul to realize her odd eye in SCL by taking out the ear phones and jinsoul helped olivia try to find her own self after being left behind in eden.
sorry if its confusing, makes sense at my part
if u read up to hear thank you.. fyi my mind is fried cause while typing this i recognize a different set of theories.
thanks for this friend!
this is great!
I think that Yves was the one running, not only because of the reasons in the video, but also because Chuu runs around Yves in Heart Attack. As we know, Chuu does whatever Yves does, so this could be a major clue
so yeojin lost in the forest of Eden? that kinda makes sense
Man I just liked the music I didn't know it went this deep.
I love this theory.
I first thought that heejins video was the start of the loonaverse (because its the first mv) but it still could be because the mobius strip doesn't really have an end?
also I think kiss later takes place around my sunday (yeojin and haseul) because the frog is dressed in purple and could possibly represent choerry but that's a stretch(I heard it from another theory video.)
overall I basically agree with all of it I think possibly egoist is slightly after love4eva because she is throwing away everything from eden but yeah you already said that.
LOONA is still confusing as always but hopefully we will have more answers when the repackage comes out :)
thanks for making this video!
ps that timeline is really good I love that its colour coded uwu
Thank you so much!
And yes, since it's a Mobius strip, Heejin technically could be the beginning haha. I wasn't sure where to put Yeojin but hopefully later on we'll get some more answers :))
Erica T this is my theory, idk if this make sense, but I think yeojin is somehow in a coma state bc she apparently got lost in the forest, and her mv is really dreamy, the frog and everything it looks like she's dreaming abt someone or something
That's a very good theory, but how would she had gotten in that coma state? Would it maybe have something to do with Yves because she pulled her frog from the "new" music video? Stretch I know, but now I'm curious lol.
We are so fucking smart for remembering this stuff
6:12 Chuu also runs around Yves in Heart Attack. As we know, Chuu is obsessed with Yves and copies a lot of things that Yves does. Therefore, there is more proof that the girl was Yves.
- I think Choerry, who was the Earth born like 1/3, was brought to Eden when Yves sneaked to the earth (Choerry replaced Hyunjin in 1/3 Love & Live remix version in the Up & Line, and she in SCL was in the building Yves dances in new) and then Choerry eyes started to hurt because Hyunjin's Odd Eye color has been weakened (maybe she was trying to hide her power by staying in the room: Yellow is primary color and Hyunjin's clothes and environment in her MV was almost all yellow before she got the bracelet, which then mark that she was transported to Eden)
- Choerry awakening when she is in Eden is why her Odd eye side and hair color reversed with those of KimLip and JinSoul, whose powers were awakened by the Earth's moons. (That building in SCL and the shot Choerry sits on the floor connects to the unreleased Up & Line videos where she met Yves for the first time, which take place in the tunnel Yves is seen walking in the end of new MV [after the shot of Choerry receiving an apple])
Interesting! I haven't seen many Up & Line videos because I don't support leaked content but I also want to watch everything TT. But this adds much more depth to this theory, thanks for sharing! :)
I feel like this is the best loona theory ive seen
Thank you so much!! :))
still awake at 2 AM because of the curiosity on LOOΠΔ...
and also i'm a new orbit so.....
I WANNA DIE BECAUSE OF THEORIES!
THEY'RE SO INTERESTING!!!!!
Twinfish has a really good explanation of everything
The ‘penguin’ yves picks out is actually Kim Lip’s owl
Your timeline makes me think Vivi was supposed to be an OEC member and Jinsoul actually took that possibility/power away from her! Vivi has an odd eye as hinted by Love&Live, so the pointing out of the Eclipse uniform really soldifies that theory
Hi high just came out and now I'm starting to think that girl in LOONATIC is Olivia.
its no way she is olivia, look at her breast....the girl in loonatic is not as big as olivia (dont want to sound nasty or anything but just check it by urself)
mystery girl sang a line in it too,, but i still can't figure it out lol. could be gowon
Freddie I think it’s might be hyunjin because she a primary colour like jinsoul and Kim lip because I think that she was original of oce (the three primary colours) but something happened and she was no longer a oce member and duff happens look at my other comments to know and cheorry becomes a member of oce because of jinsoul and Kim lip
@@ottyvideos urrr...
@N S they probably had a 12th girl, new mv description says "their last 4 member squad" or something like that, so im assuming they had a 12th girl but she left the company and then they debuted hyejoo. so there's a chance that the girl could be hyejoo in loonaverse, since they are different persons irl but probably are the same person in loonaverse.
This is honestly super good! It makes a lot of sense to me and also good job you spoke well :)
thank you!
Omg the love4eva Olivia forest scenes are so scary and it was the first music video I watched from them I was low-key creeped out
I thought that the girl running around Odd Eye was Olivia, which is why they wanted to kidnap her. They wanted the cassette tapes.
I think vivid and around you is before i'll be there or my sunday because in around you original ver. hyunjin and heejin didn't know each other yet.
Sorry for my english
No worries :) That is also a possibility, the LOONAVERSE is incredibly complex so all theories to explain it are welcome! I liked where I placed 2jin's solos because it connects them to the second universe idea I made
Erica T ughh i don't even know anymore. Loonaverse is harder than mathematic. I-i give up
THIS IS SO GOOD I'M GONNA MAKE A PLAYLIST OF THIS TIMELINE SO I CAN WATCH OVER IT AND TRY TO SEE IF IT COULD BE SOMETHING
One more fact that suggests Yves is the girl running around the odd eye circle members was that in Chuu’s MV, she “copied” a lot of the things Yves has done, for instance, new choreography, dress code. In one specific shot, she was running around Yves much like how she was in the LOONATIC music video.
Also when you mentioned that Choerry could jump universes, there’s another theory suggesting that there are 3 universes, or sometimes 4 if you count Yeojin being lost. But each universe has a specific “code” for you to be able to enter it. For “eden”, you need to have a fruit, for the odd eye circle world, you must have an odd eye, now for earth, I’m not too sure, but because eden is somewhat like heaven to earth, they may have been sent down to earth from eden. Anyways, some members are able to travel between universes, so far we know ViVi has an odd eye and she’s able to go to the middle world, and for Choerry, she has a fruit and that’s a cherry suggesting she can go to eden. In the teaser for YYXY, there is a place on the table and there is a cherry on there eluding to that Choerry is connected to yyxy especially during Gowon’s music video. In fact, the table from the teaser is from the video.
Also, I believe Heejin is near the beginning, the lyrics in her solo sounds like her adding color to a blank canvas and she meets Olivia Hye because the Loonaverse is a loop and when she meets the end, she starts at the beginning.
I think that Heejins solo music video takes place all they way in the begin as it explains the loona verses vast colors and features yet to be discovered.
Details you didn’t mention: new takes place outside of Eden, so Yves gives the apple to Choerry in order to pass it on later to Go Won, leaving Olivia as the only Eden girl to have never eaten an apple. Favorite takes place after Heejin finds Olivia and brings all the girls together; and hi high is that happening. We see Choerry and Lip without Jinsoul because jinsoul was last seen with Olivia, Haseul and Yeojin are still together as they where last seen, Yves Chuu and Gowon are seen leaving a forest and find a pool, where OEC teleports Olivia to reunite with them. Vivi is seen running like in Love and live, meaning Love and Live may actually be the chronogically last 1/3 video (aka Sonatine actually comes before it) but as the video progresses they all get brought together, and favorite presumably happens after
I like the theories about the two new music videos! Yes, I will possibly make a new video for LOONA's debut :))
I think that "Egoist" happens before "love4eva". In "love4eva", Hyejoo left alone in the Eden. And in "Egoist", she finally left Eden and met Heejin. She wouldn't met Heejin without leaving the school represented in "love4eva".
Just my theory!
Im literally freaking SHOOK OMG
the plush yves pulls in "new" isn't a penguin (at 6:43) , it's an owl (specifically, wise the owl the beanie baby)
Lmaoo still , STREAM the SONATINE 😅😅
Yvie and Vives.
this is one of the best theory videos i’ve seen wow like i teared up i was so shook
ahh thank you so much!!
Everything makes sense now!!!!
I think that Heejin takes place at the same time as Sweet Crazy Love because of the theory that Heejin created color in the Loonaverse, and halfway through the Sweet Crazy Love music video, there is color. :)
bitch literally WHAT im even more lost now😭😭😭😭
did someone notice , in love cherry motion , haseul and yeojin is wearing blue and red, its kim lip and Jinsoul colours
You probably already know this by now, and I've only seen 8mins so far... but Yves takes out an owl, not a penguin, which also still connects to her circling Odd Eye girls
Can you adress the theory that all the yyxy girls are all olivia but with different moods based on the teaser we got
I'm 2 minutes in and already shook
I think Hyunjin is actually an OEC because of their colors ( Yellow,Red, Blue) but she doesnt want to anymore because of her friends in earth so She make her mirror self Choerry.
Wow! this is a very thorough and well thought out theory! I'll definitely have to adjust mine just because of yours. Amazing job! Also I am a new orbit, like only 3 weeks, but I absolutely love this lore and keep diving deeper and deeper, even though it leaves me with more questions than answers sometimes since the LOONAVERSE is so complex and everything is mainly theories. but that's what make sit so fun and absorbing
thank you :))
(I know this vid is before so what) I think so what occurs prior to butterfly in the timeline. In the so what mv there’s something flying upwards from the fire surrounding Olivia and at first I thought it was just debris but I looked close and I think they’re butterfly’s. Idk how this would exactly tie into the lore but it could represent them burning their old selves so they can be confident and fly like a butterfly or whatever
also something else I noticed relating to heejin and olivia meeting, their outfits at the end of egoist look very similar to the beginning of heart attack and how the girl wearing the black stockings (olivia in this case) looks over her shoulder at the girl wearing the white socks (heejin in this case) - I don’t really know how this connects but I found it interesting and fitting in the double timeline/universe theme
I think the apple represents knowledge...yves gives the apple to choerry to let her know the "thruth" behind the loonaverse...
Omg this has to be my favorite theory video so far, everything makes so much sense! A total "aha moment" none of my teachers could ever get me to have lmfao.
OMGGGGGGGGG MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IM SOOOOOOOOOO IN LOVE
also plums,cherries, and roses come from similar families. The cherry, plum and peach comes from the prunus family so if anyone has seen one of the members eat a peach pls tell me
i’m just gonna watch the videos and enjoy them 🥵 this makes me feel stewwwwpid
I think kiss later comes right before let me in, in the video haseul is looking for yeojin. In the carol 1.0 you can see that haseul is waiting for someone and it’s looking at the clock to reach number 4 (yeojins number)
OMG u should do a continuation of this now adding hi highs imagery to your analysis
Jinsoul is important to why cheorry can travel between Universe’s because in singing in the rain she commits a sin of “swallowing the sun in the afternoon” and is now in yyxy universe in Olivia’s music video rapping and when she is u see a tin the the same word written on it with cherry’s in side and jinsoul using her odd eye travels to the original universe that cherry was in (1/3) (oce is in the middle of the universes and can they are the only ones that can travel with there odd eyes) in in the video announcing oce we see jinsoul up the cherry on top of the cake allowing her to travel to yyxy universe because u need a fruit like u see in the video and as I said jinsoul can travel there because she committed a sin but u never see Kim lip there because she is unable to because she does not have a fruit and did not commit a sin like jinsoul and the mirror that u see is so that cheorry reflection helps her find the other members the the rest of oce because they are searching for all the members like in oce girl front but yves comes in to this because she might has asked jinsoul when she was in there universe the help gather the members and get cheorry because she was not an original member of oce but they are the primary colour but something happened that I can remember lol and that’s all I can remember at the mind but there might be more later
At morning after watching all the loona videos...and reading some comments I came to know that LOONA has some kind of storyline, LOONA lore, LOONA VERSE, etc. Then I watched some more videos where they 'EXPLAIN' what these are...through them I got into string theory and mobius strip....so I watch some more videos on mobius strip and then some of string theory, which led me to higgs boson field...and rest mass... To neutron star and strange particle....and after some fucking more videos I am back to another (this video) watching LOONA VERSE but with different interpretations...
Bruh...
I only have one thing to confirm for you. That is Yves circling around OEC. That was confirmed in the LOONAtv videos.
I don't remember which one, especially being that there are 375 loona tv vids. But its which ever videos surrounding the making of the girl front MV. I'm gonna try to find the exact clip, but give me a while lol
in conclusion, hyunjin is a cat *AEONG INTENSIFIES*
I actually think Heejin's outfit in is more similar to the 'teacher' in the house of eden and supports a theory I read that heejin is the loonaverse's version of god and actually created eden, i forget the evidence but someone also told me that maybe she was 'redeemed' by one of the other girls and her meeting olivia on top of the rooftop in a light colored outfit is her apologizing to olivia for keeping her in eden for so long.... i don't know, those are just some snippets i've seen around
I always thought that the girl running around oec was olivia, because in hihigh, olivia was being surrounded by oec.
Which doesn't make sense if it's Olivia, right? In Girl Front, the mystery girl runs around them with a cassette tape, and OEC look at her in confusion/annoyance (seen in LOONATIC).
In complete contrast, Hi High shows that Olivia is approached by a very pleased OEC who are completely in control of the scene, and there is no cassette tape to be scene. Rather, Yves seems to be pulling the strings in the background, as she's waiting for Olivia when she's teleported.
Either way, it's definitely one of the yyxy girls.
nice video! and wow, your voice sounds exactly like grimes
Thank you! that's the first I've heard that before hehe
Can you do an updated version of your theory?
I think it's really interesting
Amazing video, but Yves Caught a frig and a Owl, not a penguin...
It's a penguin
I love this timeline ♥
thank you :)
Excellent video
OKAY SOO.....
I have a theory on So What:
The song and music video shows the 'back of the moon'. We know that we have never scientifically seen the back of the moon or the 'dark side of the moon'. What if, the front of the moon is LOONA's story, with all the realms, hi high and butterfly. Hi high is about how the girls unite as one and is a relatively happy story.
But, what if the back side of the moon is their true story. Olivia Hye is seen with the fire and the feather on fire at the end, what if the feather represents Yves' swan and Olivia Hye wants revenge on Yves for leaving her in Eden.
What if we are going to see their true story.
Or..... my second theory is that we are going to see the hidden parts of their story that were never told (we've never seen the back of the moon) and aren't supposed to be. But the girls don't care since it's their true story (So What). And that these parts have some dark elements (I'm so bad)
This leads me to believe that their next comeback will either have a dark concept showing this straightforward... or it will be lighter and less straightforward and more complex (like they might still try to hide their true story)
Or.... my third theory is that this is just a massive middle finger to Jaden Jeong for burning the loonaverse and that they are going to create their own new world with all 12 of them including us though. This could be because in the teaser, heejin is 'flying' and waking on air so she might be trying to reach us... or get away from LOONA...
I also think that Love And Live is the story that we see....
But Love and Evil is part of the untold story....
And Choerry can go back and forth between universes because she is the only one with the odd eye on her right eye...
idk but the claw machine part, some says it is owl not penguin (like penguin one is different-) so she pick owl a.k.a. kim lip
5:12 I know I'm very late but I actually think that's Choerry herself, not Hyunjin, she's wearing the same clothes and also at the end of the mv Choerry throws the map which is folded like a paper plane and lands on her back, like it went back to her so it could be same with the mirror thingy
I mean yeah, in 5:10 it is actually Hyunjin, bc of the clothes but when she looks back it's herself whose holding the mirror
YALL THE SIGN BEHIND JINSOUL IN EGOIST MEANS FALLEN ANGEL IN CHINESE JDHNFVILJHEYUA
Soo good.
Thank you :))
So many great thoughts thank you!
i watch this and i still am so confused
Hello! I really enjoyed your theory;;;; I wanted to ask for your permission to translate it to spanish and making a video about it! Obviously I'd credit you in the video. Thank you beforehand!
Wow thank you! Yes, as long as you credit me you definitely can :) I’d love to see it so hit me up with the link after!
@@ericat2184 Hi! I just uploaded it! :) ruclips.net/video/EB3bBffkKP4/видео.html&t
The other toy that Yves picked up wasn’t actually a penguin, it was an owl. What does that have to do with Kim Lip?
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Olivia and Jinsoul are working together to destroy eden
That’s why Olivia is left out . Also Jinsoul and Olivia interact . Vivi is actually dead that’s why she’s an Android because Jinsoul killed her for Olivia . Jinsoul awoken Choerrys powers and used her to experiment with cherries . In the garden of eden fruit is forbidden , in order to leave eden and escape before Olivia kills them . In Chinese under Jinsoul the word fallen angel is written in Chinese . Remember I said Vivi is dead . Vivi is viewed as pure like and angel .
What about Kiss Later?
Mystery. I have a theory that Haseul has sheltered Yeojin in the forest (she wasn't actually lost...) due to a fear of losing Yeojin.
My Melody, LCM, and Hi High ALL support this since she's alone with Haseul in all three.
Yeojin was super young and oblivious to this, so her solo song is about her not wanting to kiss a boy now. This contrast to the other MVs is intentional: others are singing of internal conflict (Haseul), awakening (Kim Lip) and self-acceptance (Jinsoul/Go Won). Chuu and Yeojin sing about their love for others, or their perspectives on feelings.
What I'm getting at, is that Yeojin has not had her awakening yet. She will, though.
Minute 5:16 it was the same choerry, not hyunjin
I like a lot of your theory HOWEVER I think Olivia was the one in Loonatic, cause she's in the room with Odd Eye Circle in Hi High.
Please do an edit of this since Hi High came out
Yvie is such a cute ship name though
There’s Loona lore?
oh man, who's going to tell them... just kidding! yes, loona has a really great and complex lore!
Ok but the intro tho
bitch i might stan.
idk brain too small
kim lip doesnt connect with anything
SeoJin Lee afaik, she is The spark that lights the fire in OEC universe
WHO IS EDN AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXPLAIN SOMEONE PLZ
Based off my own theory, I think Eden is actually the House the yyxy girls are in during the love4eva m/v
Erica T omg I see it but how you think off all of that
not to answer for the creator, but The Garden of Eden is ofc a bible reference, it is supposed to be a paradise. BBC have mentioned that the girls deny eden to love themselves as eden is not the paradise they thought. as we see the girls leaving the house in love4eva its sort of confirmed that the house was Eden xx hope that kinda helped a little bit :)
OMG this is so confusing!!
Hey great video but you mispronounce a few of the member's names.
Choerry is pronounced like "cherry" since the "Cho" is from her last name Choi which is pronounced "chey".
Another is Yves. It is pronounced like the name is supposed to be pronounced in French, which is "Eve".
And lastly, Olivia Hye. it is also not said how it looks. Hye is pronounced "hey" as it is from Olivia's real name, Hyejoo.
(also, vivi but i just say it like bibi. that's just my opinion though, not fact)
Thank you for your theory and I hope this doesn't come off as rude :/
I feel like there's a lot of confusion over how to pronounce some of the members' names.
Choerry in Korean is written as 최리. Yes, you're correct about it coming from her last name Choi (최), but Choi in Korean can actually sound similar to the English "chwe". Hence, why I read her name like that.
In my video, I pronounced Yves as "Eve" since in Korean it's written as 이브, and the 'b' sound is equivalent to the 'v' sound. Technically, it would be more like 'ee-buh' but I think the intended pronounciation for English is 'Eve.' That also means that while Vivi in Korean is written as 비비, it can be pronouced 'bibi' or Vivi.
You are correct about Olivia Hye's name. I had assumed since it was written as "혜", the 'y' sound would be said but that's not the case with the 'ㅎ' consonant.
It's not rude, appreciate the correction :)
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that’s so sad